From: Messinger, Lisa C.

To: Thomas Finseth

Subject: RE: A. B Brown (Vectren) Scrubber Diagram

Date: Monday, February 03, 2014 2:14:00 PM

It is fresh water used to maintain the pressure on the seals to create the vacuum. There is a very

small amount which is “excess” that dribbles to the wastewater sump. I would not consider this to be

a “waste” stream nor is the volume of a size to be quantified on the diagram.

Lisa C. Messinger

Manager, Utility Environmental Compliance

Vectren Corporation

812-491-4666

From: Thomas Finseth [mailto:Thomas.Finseth@erg.com] 

Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:40 PM

To: Messinger, Lisa C.

Subject: Re: A. B Brown (Vectren) Scrubber Diagram

Hi Lisa,

Thank you very much for the additional diagram. This is extremely helpful. I have just one question on the

diagram: What wastestream is represented by the green line from the vacuum pump to the waste water

sump?

Thank you again for your help.

TJ Finseth

ERG

14555 Avion Parkway, Suite 200

Chantilly, VA 20151

(703) 633-1698 (phone)

(703) 263-7479 (fax)

thomas.finseth@erg.com

>>> "Messinger, Lisa C." <LMessinger@Vectren.com> 1/29/2014 6:18 PM >>>

 TJ - When we spoke on the phone last week, you had a question about what appeared to be conflicting

information between my ICR submittal and ELG comments concerning the volume of water from our FGD

system at our A. B. Brown plant. Our water balance in the ICR showed 1.2 MGD, but my ELG comments

indicated the source was the wash down of truck bays and belt filters. You also asked for clarification of what

was involved in the belt filter wash. After discussing with my scrubber engineer, I called back to state the

wash water was from continuous run hoses that use recirculated ash pond water and the belt filter wash is

from the underside of the belt, after the solids have been removed so there was minimal additional solids. I

also explained that our dual alkali scrubbers are unique in design (there are no others still operating in the US

power industry) so our FGD waste water is not equivalent to an FGD purge from a limestone based / gypsum

scrubber. We agreed that 1.2 MGD seemed high, but that was the most current water balance I had available.

After we spoke, I asked a project engineer to provide a simplified drawing of our scrubbing system that I could

send to you for further explanation of how and why our scrubbers are different. I also asked that on the

diagram, he include arrows to better show flow through the system since much of the water is recycled back
into the scrubbing system and to fine tune the water volumes. Our water balance noted that evaporation

losses were not accounted for on the drawings. This volume can be significant which likely attributed to the

higher than typical water volumes in some areas. For us, lack of precision was of little consequence since

most waters recirculate through our pond or scrubber. However, when trying to extrapolate pollutant loadings,

it could be detrimental.

As part of a new water treatment system and upgraded electronic control system, we have added flow meters

and cycle counts that allow us to more accurately calculate the water volumes in many areas of our plant.

This has all been done within the last couple years, after the submittal of the ICR. Attached is a detailed

drawing of the scrubbing system which shows the calculated FGD wastewater sump volume is 0.772 MGD.

The diagram attempts to further explain where and what volume of fresh water and "reuse" (recirculated

water) is used in the system. We have not yet updated the full plant water balance as we are in the middle

of construction of a new water treatment system that will go into service in early fall 2014. We intend to

update our WB at that time, unless you feel we need to provide EPA an updated drawing sooner.

Hopefully this helps in your assessment. Feel free to call or e-mail with any additional questions.

Lisa C. Messinger

Manager, Utility Environmental Compliance

Vectren Corporation

812-491-4666

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