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I nth e Matte r o f AER O TIR E AN D TANK , LL C Docke t No . CP08SW001 1 DM S No . FAA-2008-130 7

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NTS B Courtroo m 62 4 Si xFlag s Dr. , Suit e 15 0 Arlington , Texa s 7601 1 Wednesday , Ma y12 , 201 0
Th e above-entitle dmatte r convene dfo r hearing , pursuan t t o notice , a t 9:0 0 a.m . BEFORE : RICHAR D C . GOODWI N Administrativ e La wJudg e 

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www.nealrgross.co mAPPEARANCE S O nbehal f o f th e Administrator : RENAM . PRICE , Senio r Attorne y Federa l Aviatio nAdministratio n Offic e o f th e Regiona l Counse l 260 1 Meacha mBoulevar d For t Worth , Texa s 76137-000 7 Telephon e 817-222-506 8 Fa xNo . 817-222-594 5 O nbehal f o f th e Responden t DERRIC KJ . HAHN , Attorne y 90 0 Jackso nStreet , Suit e 18 0 Dallas , Texa s 7520 2 Telephon e 214-744-320 0 Fa xNo . 214-744-320 2

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record .

Ms . Price ?

LL C JUDG E GOODWIN : Let' s g o o nth e

Thi s i s th e cas e o f Aer o - - again .

MS . PRICE : Aer o Tir e an dTank ,

JUDG E GOODWIN : I understan dfro m Judg e Mullin s tha t there' s bee nsom e development s i nth e case ?

MS . PRICE : Yes , Judge . Lat e yesterda yafternoo nth e Agenc yan dth e Respondent , Aer o Tir e an dTan k wer e abl e t o amicabl yresolv e th e issu e i nou r complaint .

JUDG E GOODWIN : Okay , good . A s Ms . Pric e knows , myreputatio ni s - - whe nI firs t go t here , peopl e wer e doin g thi s a t th e las t minute . I di dtria l wor k fo r 2 0 years . I kne wtha t peopl e weren' t lookin g a t file s unti l th e las t minute , bu t I kno wthat' s no t th e cas e here .

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2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0 1 1 1 2 1 3 1 4 1 5 1 6 1 7 1 8 1 9 2 0 2 1 2 2 I' mon e o f thes e peopl e wit hth e

philosoph yi f yo usettl e th e case , I thin k it' s a credi t t o th e tw o attorneys , an d especiall yt o th e parties , whethe r yo usettl e i t o nth e doorstep .

An dI'v e tol dman ya nattorney , "I f I tol dyo uI'v e neve r settle da cas e o n th e Courthous e doorstep s o r i nth e courtroom , I' db e lyin g t o you. "

Bu t I appreciat e al l th e har dwor k tha t th e tw o o f yo uhav e don e an dI respec t th e fac t you'v e bee nabl e t o settl e th e case .

I learne di ndoin g 2 0 year s o f divorc e work , i f I coul dge t th e partie s t o settle , the ymigh t actuall yadher e t o th e settlemen t agreement , a s oppose dt o wha t somebod yi na blac k rob e dictate dt o them .

I t doesn' t matte r t o me , Ms . Price , whethe r yo upu t i t i nth e recor do r not . D o yo uwan t m e t o hol dth e recor dope n t o allo wyo ut o sig nanything ?

MS . PRICE : I don' t thin k tha t

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2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0 1 1 1 2 1 3 1 4 1 5 1 6 1 7 1 8 1 9 2 0 2 1 2 2 woul db e necessary . Judge . I think fo r th e

record , i f th e Cour t woul dsimpl yindicat e tha t th e matte r i s terminate da s a resul t o f th e resolution .

JUDG E GOODWIN : Yeah . MS . PRICE : W e wil l issu e a norde r assessing civi l penalt ybase do nour settlemen t agreement .

JUDG E GOODWIN : Well , d o yo uwan t m e t o incorporat e i t i nmyorde r o r d o yo u wan t t o d o i t a t you r level ? I don' t hav e an y

leve l MS . PRICE : We'l l handl e i t a t our

JUDG E GOODWIN : Well , m yconcer n is , i f I dismis s i t befor e yo ud o that , I don' t wan t jurisdictio nt o - - well , ho wlong d o yo uanticipat e i t wil l b e befor e yo uar e abl e t o issu e you r order ?

MS . PRICE : Onc e w e receiv e th e civi l penalt ypaymen t fromth e Respondent , w e wil l b e prepare dt o issu e th e orde r assessing

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2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0 1 1 1 2 1 3 1 4 1 5 1 6 1 7 1 8 1 9 2 0 2 1 2 2 JUDG E GOODWIN : An ysens e ho wlon g

MS . PRICE : An dI believ e he' s prepare dt o d o tha t

JUDG E GOODWIN : I' mno t tryin g t o pi nyo udown . Giv e yoursel f a noutsid e date .

MR . HAHN : Yeah . We'r e prepare d t o tende r th e mone ytoda yo r tomorrow . You r Hono r JUDG E GOODWIN ; Yo uactuall y brough t i t wit hyo ui npennie s

MS . PRICE : S o I woul dcertainl y thin k tha t onc e w e receiv e it , an dw e shoul d receiv e it , I woul dcertainl ythin k b yth e en d
o f th e week .

JUDG E GOODWIN : Toda yi s th e 12th . I wil l leav e th e cas e - - I wil l issu e a norde r indicatin g tha t th e cas e ha s bee nsettled . I' mgoin g t o leav e i t ope nunti l Jun e 1 .

Onc e yo uadvis e m e tha t yo uhav e receive dpayment , I'l l dismis s th e cas e wit h

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2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0 1 1 1 2 1 3 1 4 1 5 1 6 1 7 1 8 1 9 2 0 2 1 2 2 prejudice . MS . PRICE : Tha t wil l b e fine . JUDG E GOODWIN : On e o f th e reason s

- - ther e ar e tw o side s t o this . Anythin g I pu t i nth e recor di s publi c record . I don' t
car e whethe r you r settlemen t i s publi c recor d
o r it' s betwee nth e tw o o f you .

S o i f I leav e i t ope nan di t fall s apar t - - heave nonl yknow s I'v e ha da fe wo f those , usuall ydivorc e cases . "Wha t d o yo u mean , I can' t hav e th e toaster . I wan t mor e visitatio nwit hth e dog. " Bi g substantia l issues . S o I'l l issu e a norde r leavin g th e recor dope ntil l Jun e 1 pendin g finalizatio n o f settlement . An di f Ms . Pric e - - jus t sen d
m e a nemai l Mr . Lebowit z i s ou t o f th e countr yunti l th e en do f th e month .

Sen dm e a nemai l indicatin g tha t yo ureceive dpaymen t an dyou'r e satisfie dtha t th e term s o f th e settlemen t hav e bee n finalized , an dthe nI'l l dismis s th e cas e wit h

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2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0 1 1 1 2 1 3 1 4 1 5 1 6 1 7 1 8 1 9 2 0 2 1 2 2 prejudice . That' s al l I nee dt o say . MS . PRICE : Tha t wil l b e fine . Judg e JUDG E GOODWIN : Again , I applaud th e fac t th e two o f yo uwer e abl e t o wor kthi s thing ou t amicabl yandloo kforwar dt o seeing th e two o f yo uagai no nanothe r matter .

MS . PRICE : Thank you . Judge . MR . HAHN : Thank you . Judge . JUDG E GOODWIN : S ojus t fo r th e record , we'r e going t o indicate , jus t indicat e wha t th e Cour t ha s said . We'l l issu e a norde r leaving the docke t ope ntil l 1 June , pending finalizatio no f settlement .

Onc e the Agenc yha s notifie du s o f receip t o f payment , I'l l dismis s wit h prejudice . Thank you .

We'r e of f the record . [A t 9:0 3 a.m. , th e proceeding s wer e concluded. ]

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Thi s i s t o certif ytha t th e foregoin g transcrip t i nth e matte r of : Aer o Tir e an dTank , LL C
Befor e Richar dC . Goodwi n Administrativ e La wJudg e
Dat e Ma y12 , 201 0

Plac e Arlington , Texa s

represent s th e ful l andcomplet e proceeding s o f th e aforementione dmatter , a s reporte dan dreduce dt o typewriting .

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