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Project Name: Brick and Structural Clay CBI?

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Date: 4/17/14 Time: 10:00 am

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Company Name: Brick Industry Association (BIA) ERG Staff Name: Amie Aguiar

Contact Name: Susan Miller Contact Phone Number: (919) 380-2191

General Subject: Wet Scrubbers in the Brick Industry.

TOPICS DISCUSSED AND ACTION TAKEN

On April 17th, I emailed the Brick Industry Association’s information email address. Please see attached email 

communication.

On April 23rd, Susan Miller, the Vice President for Environment, Health and Safety at the Brick Industry 

Association, called in response to my April 17th email. She said that these NESHAPs had been vacated by the 

court in 2007, but will be re-proposed in August of 2014. Before this, brick facilities had come into compliance 

with the rule, but only a few use wet scrubbers. Brick and clay companies don’t generally have access to 

POTWs and would have to direct discharge if wet scrubbers were put in. She mentioned that they’re not a very 

well-liked means of control due to these logistics. She mentioned that the tile industry may have wet scrubbers 

and gave me a contact at the Tile Council of North America.

On April 25th, I emailed Susan with some follow-up questions about the brick industry. Please see attached 

email communication.

On May 8th and May 14th I called Susan, and left a message.

After no response, on May 21st I sent Susan a follow-up email, and later that day she responded. Please see 

attached email communication.

On May 27th, I sent Susan a reply to her email requesting a formal request for information. Susan has not yet 

responded.
From: Amie Aguiar 

Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:04 PM

To: 'brickinfo@bia.org'

Subject: NESHAP Inquiry

My name is Amie Aguiar and I work for ERG, a contractor to EPA. I’m investigating industrial wastewater 

discharges due to the National Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants (NESHAP) for Brick and 

Structural Clay Products Manufacturing and Clay Ceramics Manufacturing. Are you aware of any cases of 

your members using wet scrubbers to comply with these regulations? Do you know of any available data on the 

number of wet scrubbers currently being used by the industry? If not, do you know who I might contact to find 

this type of information?

Thank you for your help.

Amie

Amie Beth Aguiar

Environmental Scientist, ERG

160 State Street, 9th Floor, Boston, MA 02109

(617) 357-4627, amie.aguiar@erg.com

schedule: 9:00-4:00 M-Th
From: Amie Aguiar 

Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 9:05 AM

To: 'smiller@bia.org'

Subject: One Additional Question

Hi Susan,

I have one additional question for you regarding the vacated NESHAPs. Do you happen to know which 

facilities it is that you mentioned have wet scrubbers?

Thank you,

Amie 

Amie Beth Aguiar

Environmental Scientist, ERG

160 State Street, 9th Floor, Boston, MA 02109

(617) 357-4627, amie.aguiar@erg.com

schedule: 9:00-4:00 M-Th
From: Amie Aguiar [mailto:Amie.Aguiar@erg.com] 

Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:51 AM

To: Susan Miller

Subject: Wet Scrubbers in the Brick Industry

Hi Susan,

I apologize for the interruption, but I’m following up regarding the list of wet scrubbers you had mentioned you 

would be able to track down. It would be greatly helpful to our analysis if you could provide it.

Thank you very much for your help,

Amie

Amie Beth Aguiar

Environmental Scientist, ERG

160 State Street, 9th Floor, Boston, MA 02109

(617) 357-4627, amie.aguiar@erg.com

schedule: 9:00-4:00 M-Th
From: Susan Miller [mailto:SMiller@bia.org] 

Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:51 PM

To: Amie Aguiar

Subject: RE: Wet Scrubbers in the Brick Industry

I am sorry I have been slow getting back to you. I am going to need a formal request from you that I can 

forward on to people and get their information... Go ahead and tell me the details you will be needing. I do not 

generally give out any information without a plant’s permission- even their name. The policy came up with 

respect to vendors who call me, but it has stuck for all.

Again, I apologize. It’s been crazy around here...

sus

Susan J Miller

(919) 380-2191

Make it a great day!
From: Amie Aguiar 

Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:46 AM

To: 'Susan Miller'

Subject: RE: Wet Scrubbers in the Brick Industry

Hi Susan,

We would like to get a list of facilities that have wet scrubbers installed, along with the year they were installed 

and their NPDES IDs if they’re available. In addition, any other information about the facilities with wet 

scrubbers (e.g. types of processes/products if available) would be very helpful.

Thank you very much for your help.

Amie