From: Christopher Bolduc

To: Corkran, Jerry L

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Subject: Re: Use of ZDMH as a core material

Date: Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:56:20 PM

All,

I want to be clear that this proposal is to filter out ZDMH as a core material only in the basecase. ZDMH would remain a potential core material when analyzing the impacts of higher efficiency levels in the

standards cases.

The proposed filtering would be for all classes of transformers covered by the analysis: MVLF, MVDT, and LVDT.

Thank you,

- Chris

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Corkran, Jerry L <Jerry.Corkran@cooperindustries.com> wrote: > Mr. Gaytan and Mr. Bolduc,

>

> We agree with both your comments listed > below and to the request to remove the ZDMH from MVLF evaluations.

> > Jerry Corkran

> > -----Original Message----- > From: Gaytan Cavazos, Carlos (GE Energy, Non-GE) > [ mailto:Carlos.Gaytan@ge.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 5:11 PM > To: Christopher Bolduc; Meyers, Aaron; adelaski@standardsasap.org; > ahofmann@publicpower.org; amarantan@navigant.com; > artrosenfeld@gmail.com; august.esch@gmail.com; > BermanEconomics@gmail.com; brian.coffey@navigant.com; > bruce.r.hirsch@bge.com; bsmith@federalpacific.com; > Caitlin.Johnson@navigant.com; carlosgsiqueiros@eaton.com; > chad.kennedy@us.schneider-electric.com; charlied@uss.org; > chuck.simmons@pgnmail.com; Cla_Silcox@nema.org; cstephens@neea.org; > Daniel.Cohen@hq.doe.gov; dave.millure@metglas.com; > DYoung@energy-solution.com; eduardorobles@eaton.com; > Eric.Petersen@aksteel.com; gbf1@pge.com; gjrosenquist@lbl.gov; > greg.coulter405@gmail.com; James.Lass@cleco.com; > Jennifer.Tiedeman@hq.doe.com; Jeremiah.Freeman@ee.doe.gov; Corkran,> Jerry L; jerry.schoen@aksteel.com; jhodge@howard-ind.com; > Jim.creevy@nema.org; Jim.Raba@ee.doe.gov; jmauer@standardsasap.org; > Joh_Caskey@nema.org; john.cymbalsky@ee.doe.gov; jrossetti@mlgw.org; > kcoughlin@lbl.gov; kwinder@mleainc.com; maheshsampat@bellsouth.net; > mark.stoering@xcelenergy.com; matthew.nardotti@navigant.com; > mhyland@appanet.org; mrivest@navigant.com; mwaltner@nrdc.org; > Paul.Ryan@hitmet.com; phil@pjharter.com; phopkinson@hvolt.com; > pkumar@publicpower.org; Raymond.Polinski@atimetals.com; > rgreeson@federalpacific.com; richardparkerdc@gmail.com; > rick.anderson@faypwc.com; robert.saint@nreca.coop; rroy@nrdc.org; > ScottB@lvmetals.com; snadel@aceee.org; srosenstock@eei.org; > tballo@earthjustice.org; Teckman@nwcouncil.org; > thomas.patzner@us.schneider-electric.com; vijay.tendulkar@onyxpower.com; > wes.patterson@us.abb.com; zhimei.luo@navigant.com > Subject: RE: Use of ZDMH as a core material

> > Dear Mr. Bolduc,

> > We agree with your summary of the situation regarding ZDMH for Medium > Voltage Liquid Filled Distribution Transformers - very limited > availability and not a viable option for volume application. We had > previously stated this when focusing our earlier inputs and analyses on > only M3 and Amorphous.

> > We also agree with your proposal to remove it from the LCC.

> > We can only comment relative to MVLF since we do not manufacture > dry-type ratings.

> > Sincerely,

> > Carlos Gaytan

> Prolec GE

> > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Bolduc [ mailto:cabolduc@lbl.gov ] > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:30 AM > To: Aaron.Meyers@cooperindustries.com; adelaski@standardsasap.org; > ahofmann@publicpower.org; amarantan@navigant.com; > artrosenfeld@gmail.com; august.esch@gmail.com; > BermanEconomics@gmail.com; brian.coffey@navigant.com; > bruce.r.hirsch@bge.com; bsmith@federalpacific.com; > Caitlin.Johnson@navigant.com; Gaytan Cavazos, Carlos (GE Energy, > Non-GE); carlosgsiqueiros@eaton.com; > chad.kennedy@us.schneider-electric.com; charlied@uss.org; > chuck.simmons@pgnmail.com; Cla_Silcox@nema.org; cstephens@neea.org; > Daniel.Cohen@hq.doe.gov; dave.millure@metglas.com; > DYoung@energy-solution.com; eduardorobles@eaton.com; > Eric.Petersen@aksteel.com; gbf1@pge.com; gjrosenquist@lbl.gov; > greg.coulter405@gmail.com; James.Lass@cleco.com; > Jennifer.Tiedeman@hq.doe.com; Jeremiah.Freeman@ee.doe.gov; > jerry.corkran@cooperindustries.com; jerry.schoen@aksteel.com; > jhodge@howard-ind.com; Jim.creevy@nema.org; Jim.Raba@ee.doe.gov; > jmauer@standardsasap.org; Joh_Caskey@nema.org; > john.cymbalsky@ee.doe.gov; jrossetti@mlgw.org; kcoughlin@lbl.gov; > kwinder@mleainc.com; maheshsampat@bellsouth.net; > mark.stoering@xcelenergy.com; matthew.nardotti@navigant.com; > mhyland@appanet.org; mrivest@navigant.com; mwaltner@nrdc.org; > Paul.Ryan@hitmet.com; phil@pjharter.com; phopkinson@hvolt.com; > pkumar@publicpower.org; Raymond.Polinski@atimetals.com;> rgreeson@federalpacific.com; richardparkerdc@gmail.com; > rick.anderson@faypwc.com; robert.saint@nreca.coop; rroy@nrdc.org; > ScottB@lvmetals.com; snadel@aceee.org; srosenstock@eei.org; > tballo@earthjustice.org; Teckman@nwcouncil.org; > thomas.patzner@us.schneider-electric.com; vijay.tendulkar@onyxpower.com; > wes.patterson@us.abb.com; zhimei.luo@navigant.com > Subject: Use of ZDMH as a core material

> > All,

> > In the October 13, and 14 meetings there were several side conversation > regarding the current availability of ZDMH steel. What I've been able to > gather is that ZDMH steel is an excellent material for transformer > cores, but is not reliably available to manufactures in the North

> American market.

> > Information provided by Wes Patterson of ABB (attached) shows no (or > close to none) shipments using this material. Is ABB's experience with > ZDMH shared among other manufactures? Does this apply to both MV and LV > manufacturers? Can other manufactures provide similar information to

> ABB's?

> > If ZDMH is currently not a viable material for manufacturers I propose a > change to the LCC to reflect this. In the basecase the LCC will be > modified to filter out transformer designs that use ZDMH. This will > result in more transformers designs that use M3 and M2 steels being

> selected.

> > Thank you,

> -- Chris

>

> ---- > Chris Bolduc > Energy Efficiency Standards Group > Environmental Energy Technologies Division Lawrence Berkeley National > Laboratory t. 416-535-7546 c. 647-832-4021

>

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---- Chris Bolduc Energy Efficiency Standards Group Environmental Energy Technologies Division Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory

t. 416-535-7546

c. 647-832-4021