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t Docke t No . A-98-1 3 ~~ " From : Marth aSmit h U.S . EPA/OAQPS/ES D Date : Januar

y 13,200 3 Subject : Meeting Minute s fo r the Januar

y 10 , 200 3 Conferenc e Call between EP A an d th e America n Chemistr

y Council (ACC ) - OL

D MAC T Rule , 2:00-3:0 0 p m Purpos e o f

Meetin g Th e AC C requeste d thi s phone call t o discus s th e lega

l issue s raise d in th e Earthjustic e Lega l Defens e Fund' s (ELDF

) comment s o

n th e Organi c Liquid s Distributio n (OLD ) MACT rule , 4 0 CF R 63 , subpar t EEEE , propose d on April 2,2002 . Attachmen

t Lis t o f Participant s Summar v o f Discussio n Mr . Shiple y spok e on behal f

o f ACC , sayin

g tha t the y hav e rea d an d disagre e wit

h man y o f ELDF' s argument s concernin g th e lega l basi s ofth e OL

D proposal . The

y fel t tha t th e ELDF comment s attack

man y long-standin g EP

A procedure s an

d approache s in settin g MACT standards . The y wer e intereste d in discoverin g wher e EP A stoo d on thes e issues , an d offere d to assis t EP A i n understandin g th e technica

l issue s an d i n developin g response s t

o the comments . Ms . Embre y o f EP A responde d tha

t EP A would no t

b e abl e t o discus s it s statu s on dealin g wit h thes e issues , an

d th e bes t us e o f thi s meetin g time woul d b e fo r ACC t o explai n it s positio n s o tha t EP A coul d us e an

y portion s tha t i t foun d useful . Mr . Shiple

y presente d ACC' s thought s unde r th e following thre e categories .P. 3

Meetin g Minute s EPA/AC C -1/13/0 3 Pag e 2 1 . Applicabilit

y Exclusions/Exemption s

• Facilit

y throughpu

t cutof f AC C suggeste d tha

t EP A coul d pursu e tw o avenue s t o continu e t o justif

y th e applicabilit

y exemption s fo

r facilities : 1 . D e minimis . ACC state d tha t the y thin k EP A stil l ha s th e authorit

y t o us e th e "de minimis " approach i

n spit e ofth e National

Lime decision . 2 . "Incidental " OLD . ACC state d tha t EP A migh t conside r insertin g aprovisio n that , i n orde r to be considere d i

n th e OL D sourc e category , a

n operatio n mus t hav e acertai n level o

f organi c liqui d throughput

an d i f they d o not , then the y woul d b e considere d a

n "incidental " OL

D operatio n outside th e sourc e category . Throughpu

t cutoff s fo r transfe r rack s AC C state d tha

t bot h ofth e abov e argument s fo r th e facilit y throughput

cutof f coul d als o b e applie d to th e throughpu t cutof f fo r transfe r racks . Storag e tank s < 20.00 0 ga

l capacit y AC C state d tha

t the y thin k establishin g a"n o control " MACT floo r i s suspec t an d tha t EP A probabl y ha s th e dut

y t o se t level s eve n if ther e ar e no add-o n controls . AC C suggeste d tha

t rathe r tha n usin g fixe

d roo f tank s a s "n o control, " EP

A shoul d conside

r "open roo f

tank s a s no contro l an

d then us e "fixed roo f

tank s a s acontro l tha

t woul d represen

t th e MAC T floo r fo r storag e tank s wit

h capacitie s o f

les s tha n 20,00 0 gallons . 5 % HA P cutof f definin g Organi c Liqui d AC C pointe d t

o th e rational e use d in th e proposa l preambl e ofth e HO

N an d state d tha t the y coul d no t

see anything in th e recen

t cour t decision s tha

t woul d prohibi t

EP A fromusin g tha

t sam e approach fo

r OLD . The

y als o state d tha

t the y believ e emission s from<5 % HA

P liquid s ar

e no t driven by th e HA

P content , but

by othe r factor s <30 0 hr/v r in OL D servic e fo

r LDA R component s 

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Meetin g Minute s EPA/AC C -1/13/0 3 Pag e 3 AC C state d tha t th e 30 0 hr/y r exemptio n i s no t

afloo r issu e an d therefor e th e National Lime cas e ha s n

o impact on thi s aspec t

ofth e rule . 2 . Failur e to Regulat

e al l HA P AC C state d tha

t National Lime doe s not

appl y becaus e National

Lime addresse d th e issu e o f

failur e t o regulat e HA P tha t ar e know n t o b e emitte d fromth e sourc e categor y an d tha t i s not th e cas e fo

r OLD . Th e OL D dataindicat

e wha t HA P ar e emitte d an d ther e i s no nee d to worr y abou t th e othe r HAP . AC C state d tha

t if ther e i s n o indicatio n o f

HA P bein g emitted , then ther

e i s no problemwit

h no t regulatin g such HAP . EP A note d tha

t th e 2 4 othe r HA P (non-Tabl e 1 HAP

) woul d no t

b e controlle d unles s they ar e in a>5 % HA

P organi c liqui d strea

mbase d o n th e Tabl e 1 HAP . 3 . MACT Floo

r Analysi s

• Storag e Tank s AC C wa s concerne d tha

t Earthjustic e wa s focusin

g strictl y on astatistica

l approach fo r calculatin g th e MAC

T floors an

d tha t b y doing s o (1 ) failed t

o tak e int o accoun t achievabilit

y an d variability , an

d (2 ) threatene d t

o chang e th e wa

y EP A ha s performed it s analyses , fromcontro l technolog y t o statistica l analysis . AC C urge d EP

A t o continu e to us e th e contro l technolog y approach a s in th e Hazardou s Wast e Combusto r rul e an d to provid

e th e necessar

y justificatio n t o mee

t th e challenge . Transfe r Rack s AC C state d tha

t EP A need s to provid

e abette r explanatio n ofth e derivatio n ofth e propose d 95 % limit

fo r transfe r racks , an d th e decisio n to exclude efficiency dat ai t considere d unreasonable . AC C als o state d tha

t the y wer e informe d befor e thi s meetin g o f

apossibl e increas e i

n th e propose d rac

k limit from95 % u

p t o 98 % fo r the final rule , an

d requeste d a

n explanatio n o f

wha t led t o thi s potentia

l change .P. 5

Meetin g Minute s EPA/AC C -1/13/0 3 Pag e 4 Attachmen t

LIS T O F PARTICIPANT S Nam e Patrici aEmbre

y Michael Thrif

t K.C . Hustved

t Marth aSmit

h Ron Shiple

y Bo b Morehous e Mik e McCor d Tar aLanie r Rasm aZvaner s Greg LaFla

m Ke n Meardon Affiliation EPA/OG C EPA/OG C EPA/OAQP S EPA/OAQP S ACC ExxonMobil Morga n Lewi s Ashland , Inc . ACC PES/MACTE

C PES/MACTE

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