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THE OUTBREAK OF SALMONELLA IN EGGS 

HEARING 

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND 

INVESTIGATIONS 

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COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND 

COMMERCE 

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 

ONE HUNDRED ELEVENTH CONGRESS 

SECOND SESSION 

SEPTEMBER 22, 2010 

Serial No. 111–157 

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COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE 

HENRY A. WAXMAN, California, Chairman 

JOHN D. DINGELL, Michigan 

Chairman Emeritus 

EDWARD J. MARKEY, Massachusetts 

RICK BOUCHER, Virginia 

FRANK PALLONE, JR., New Jersey 

BART GORDON, Tennessee 

BOBBY L. RUSH, Illinois 

ANNA G. ESHOO, California 

BART STUPAK, Michigan 

ELIOT L. ENGEL, New York 

GENE GREEN, Texas 

DIANA DEGETTE, Colorado 

Vice Chairman 

LOIS CAPPS, California 

MICHAEL F. DOYLE, Pennsylvania 

JANE HARMAN, California 

TOM ALLEN, Maine 

JANICE D. SCHAKOWSKY, Illinois 

CHARLES A. GONZALEZ, Texas 

JAY INSLEE, Washington 

TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin 

MIKE ROSS, Arkansas 

ANTHONY D. WEINER, New York 

JIM MATHESON, Utah 

G.K. BUTTERFIELD, North Carolina 

CHARLIE MELANCON, Louisiana 

JOHN BARROW, Georgia 

BARON P. HILL, Indiana 

DORIS O. MATSUI, California 

DONNA M. CHRISTENSEN, Virgin Islands 

KATHY CASTOR, Florida 

JOHN P. SARBANES, Maryland 

CHRISTOPHER S. MURPHY, Connecticut 

ZACHARY T. SPACE, Ohio 

JERRY MCNERNEY, California 

BETTY SUTTON, Ohio 

BRUCE L. BRALEY, Iowa 

PETER WELCH, Vermont 

JOE BARTON, Texas 

Ranking Member 

RALPH M. HALL, Texas 

FRED UPTON, Michigan 

CLIFF STEARNS, Florida 

NATHAN DEAL, Georgia 

ED WHITFIELD, Kentucky 

JOHN SHIMKUS, Illinois 

JOHN B. SHADEGG, Arizona 

ROY BLUNT, Missouri 

STEVE BUYER, Indiana 

GEORGE RADANOVICH, California 

JOSEPH R. PITTS, Pennsylvania 

MARY BONO MACK, California 

GREG WALDEN, Oregon 

LEE TERRY, Nebraska 

MIKE ROGERS, Michigan 

SUE WILKINS MYRICK, North Carolina 

JOHN SULLIVAN, Oklahoma 

TIM MURPHY, Pennsylvania 

MICHAEL C. BURGESS, Texas 

MARSHA BLACKBURN, Tennessee 

PHIL GINGREY, Georgia 

STEVE SCALISE, Louisiana 


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SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND INVESTIGATIONS

BART STUPAK, Michigan, Chairman 

BRUCE L. BRALEY, Iowa 

Vice Chairman 

EDWARD J. MARKEY, Massachusetts 

DIANA DEGETTE, Colorado 

MIKE DOYLE, Pennsylvania 

JANICE D. SCHAKOWSKY, Illinois 

MIKE ROSS, Arkansas 

DONNA M. CHRISTENSEN, Virgin Islands 

PETER WELCH, Vermont 

GENE GREEN, Texas 

BETTY SUTTON, Ohio 

JOHN D. DINGELL, Michigan (ex officio) 

GREG WALDEN, Oregon 

Ranking Member 

ED WHITFIELD, Kentucky 

MIKE FERGUSON, New Jersey 

TIM MURPHY, Pennsylvania 

MICHAEL C. BURGESS, Texas 


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C O N T E N T S 

Page 

Hon. Bart Stupak, a Representative in Congress from the State of Michigan, 

opening statement ................................................................................................ 1 

Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 5 

Hon. Michael C. Burgess, a Representative in Congress from the State of 

Texas, opening statement .................................................................................... 8 

Hon. Henry A. Waxman, a Representative in Congress from the State of 

California, opening statement ............................................................................. 10 

Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 13 

Hon. Robert E. Latta, a Representative in Congress from the State of Ohio, 

opening statement ................................................................................................ 15 

Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 16 

Hon. Bruce L. Braley, a Representative in Congress from the State of Iowa, 

opening statement ................................................................................................ 20 

Hon. Diana DeGette, a Representative in Congress from the State of Colorado, opening statement ...................................................................................... 21 

Hon. Michael F. Doyle, a Representative in Congress from the Commonwealth 

of Pennsylvania, opening statement ................................................................... 22 

Hon. Donna M. Christensen, a Representative in Congress from the Virgin 

Islands, opening statement ................................................................................. 23 

Hon. Edward J. Markey, a Representative in Congress from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, prepared statement .................................................. 24 

Hon. John D. Dingell, a Representative in Congress from the State of Michigan, prepared statement ...................................................................................... 112 

WITNESSES

Sarah Lewis, Victim of Salmonella outbreak ........................................................ 25 

Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 28 

Carol Lobato, Victim of Salmonella outbreak ....................................................... 30 

Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 32 

Austin DeCoster, Owner, Wright County Egg ...................................................... 46 

Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 48 

Peter DeCoster, Chief Operating Officer, Wright County Egg ............................ 61 

Orland Bethel, President, Hillandale Farms of Iowa ........................................... 62 

Duane Mangskau, Production Manager, Hillandale Farms of Iowa ................... 62 

Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 65 

Joshua M. Sharfstein, M.D., Principal Deputy Commissioner, U.S. Food and 

Drug Administration ............................................................................................ 85 

Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 88 

Answers to submitted questions ...................................................................... 137 

SUBMITTED MATERIAL

Document binder ...................................................................................................... 115 

Letter of October 15, 2010, from Mr. Burgess to Mr. Waxman ........................... 133 

Letter of October 18, 2010, from Mr. Waxman to Mr. Burgess ........................... 135 

Statement of United States Senator Tom Coburn ................................................ 136 


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THE OUTBREAK OF SALMONELLA IN EGGS 

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2010 

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND INVESTIGATIONS, COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE, Washington, DC. 

The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 12:06 p.m., in Room 

2123, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Bart Stupak [chairman 

of the subcommittee] presiding. 

Present: Representatives Stupak, Braley, Markey, DeGette, 

Doyle, Christensen, Dingell, Waxman (ex officio), Burgess, and 

Latta. 

Staff Present: Phil Barnett, Staff Director; Bruce Wolpe, Senior 

Advisor; Rachel Sher, Counsel; Eric Flamm, FDA Detailee; Dave 

Leviss, Chief Oversight Counsel; Meredith Fuchs, Chief Investigative Counsel; Stacia Cardille, Counsel; Erika Smith, Professional 

Staff Member; Scott Schloegel, Investigator; Ali Neubauer, Special 

Assistant; Karen Lightfoot, Communications Director, Senior Policy 

Advisor; Elizabeth Letter, Special Assistant; Lindsay Vidal, Special 

Assistant; Mitchell Smiley, Special Assistant; Krista Rosenthall, 

Minority Counsel, Oversight; and Alan Slobodin, Minority Chief 

Counsel, Oversight. 

Mr. STUPAK. This meeting will come to order. 

Today we have a hearing entitled, ‘‘The Outbreak of Salmonella 

in Eggs.’’ 

The chairman, ranking member, and chairman emeritus will be 

recognized for a 5-minute opening statement. Other members of 

the subcommittee will be recognized for a 3-minute opening statement. I will begin. 

Before we begin, I am going to ask unanimous consent that the 

contents of our document binder be entered into the record, provided that the committee staff may redact any information that is 

business proprietary, relates to privacy concerns, or is law enforcement-sensitive. Without objection, the documents will be entered 

into the record. 

[The information appears at the conclusion of the hearing.] 

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. BART STUPAK, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF MICHIGAN 

Mr. STUPAK. Today’s hearing, entitled ‘‘The Outbreak of Salmonella in Eggs,’’ will mark the thirteenth hearing of the Oversight 

and Investigations Subcommittee since January 2007 regarding 

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poration of America, which resulted in criminal investigation. Additionally, we have investigated an E. coli outbreak traced to tainted 

spinach, the melamine-contaminated pet food, and other food-safety 

inquiries. 

Today we will continue our examination into the food-safety 

problems that continue to plague farms, producers, and American 

consumers. This time around, we are dealing with two companies 

producing eggs in the State of Iowa and sold nationwide. One thousand six hundred eight people were infected with Salmonella 

Enteritidis from the eggs between May 1st and September 14th. 

What we learned about the two egg operations in Iowa that produced the tainted eggs paints a very disturbing picture of egg production in America. When FDA inspectors entered the plants in 

August, they found facilities riddled with unsanitary and unsafe 

conditions. 

According to the inspectors’ preliminary reports, employees working within the hen laying houses did not wear or change protective 

clothing when moving from house to house. Live rodents were located in the laying houses, as the picture up here shows. And you 

can see the eggs just to the left of the circle there. We have liquid 

manure oozing out of buildings. And there is another photograph 

there that shows it actually coming out of a doorway. We have 

dead and decaying chickens found at the sites; live and dead flies 

too numerous to count. 

Most importantly, positive test results for Salmonella were found 

in both farms, including in the feed mill and in the water used to 

wash the eggs. Even more alarming, during the course of its investigation, the committee has obtained records that showed that 

Wright County Egg tested positive for Salmonella contamination in 

its Iowa facilities prior to the widespread outbreak of the illness. 

Environmental sample reports taken in and around the chicken 

cages between 2008 and 2010 indicate that Wright County Egg received 426 positive results for Salmonella, including 73 that were 

potentially positive for Salmonella Enteritidis, the same strain that 

sickened 1,600 people. 

Perhaps these findings should not be a surprise given the record 

of the DeCoster Farm operation that owns the Wright County Egg 

facilitates. In fact, DeCoster Farm had so many environmental and 

safety violations that the State of Iowa declared them habitual violators and assessed a total of $219,000 in civil fines. DeCoster 

Farm is the only entity to receive the habitual-violator status from 

the State of Iowa. 

The work of this subcommittee, coupled with the work of the 

Health Subcommittee and the full committee, on food safety culminated in the bipartisan introduction of H.R. 2749, the Food Safety Enhancement Act. This legislation passed the committee by 

unanimous consent in the U.S. House of Representatives on July 

30, 2009. The food-safety legislation has been stalled in the Senate 

for more than a year. 

The provisions contained in our food-safety legislation would address several concerns raised by this outbreak. For example, the 

bill would require new trace-back regulations that enable the Secretary to identify the history of the food as quickly as possible but 

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The food-safety legislation would give the FDA the needed authority to issue mandatory recalls and subpoena records of tainted 

food products. While in this case the two Iowa farms did issue voluntary recalls, the FDA should not have to rely on the company’s 

goodwill when the public health is at risk. 

The legislation will also give the FDA a guaranteed consistent 

source of funding through the registration fees. These fees will 

allow the FDA to conduct more inspections, to be proactive, to prevent outbreaks from occurring. 

We will hear testimony from witnesses with different perspectives on the recall: victims of this outbreak, the manufacturers of 

the recalled eggs, and a representative from the FDA. 

On our first panel, we have two victims that were affected by the 

Salmonella Enteritidis: Sarah Lewis and Carol Lobato. 

Sarah is a 30-year-old mother of two, who contracted Salmonella 

from eating a tart at her sister’s college graduation banquet. Sarah 

has been admitted twice to the hospital to be treated for Salmonella and is just now beginning to feel better. Sarah works at 

her parents’ butcher shop, which they have owned since the 1970s. 

Sarah is very familiar with local and State regulations, as they are 

subject to constant inspections. 

Carol is a 77-year-old mother of four and grandmother of four. 

When Carol and her husband took her grandson out to dinner in 

Colorado, she contracted Salmonella. Carol is very familiar with 

egg farms, as she was raised in Iowa on a chicken farm. Carol 

spent 5 days in the hospital, suffering from toxic shock, severe diarrhea, and vomiting. 

Our second panel will include Austin DeCoster, owner of Wright 

County Egg; his son, Peter DeCoster, chief operating officer; Orland 

Bethel, president of Hillandale Farms of Iowa; and Duane 

Mangskau, production manager, Hillandale Farms of Iowa. 

It is my sincere hope that these gentlemen will be forthcoming 

regarding the events of the outbreak and what they are doing to 

ensure eggs produced on their farms are safe for the American people. 

On our third and final panel, we will have Dr. Josh Sharfstein, 

deputy commissioner from the Food and Drug Administration. 

I look forward to hearing from our witnesses today about the 

progress that has been made since the outbreak occurred and how 

we can strengthen our food-safety system. 

Our committee began pushing for reform of the food-safety system more than 3 years ago. Our hearings have demonstrated the 

weaknesses in our food-safety systems that will remain until we 

enact an effective food-safety bill into law. Make no mistake about 

it: Without legislative action, it is not a matter of if, but when, 

more lives will be put at risk by another outbreak, as evidenced by 

today’s hearing. This outbreak affected more than 1,600 individuals, 2 of which are here to tell their story today. Fortunately, no 

one has died. 

In each of our 13 food-safety hearings, we are reminded that 

each year approximately 76 million Americans become sick from 

food-borne disease such as Salmonella, 325,000 are hospitalized, 

and 5,000 deaths will occur in the United States. It is time to give 


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our regulators the tools they need to be proactive in the fight 

against food-borne illnesses and diseases. 

[The prepared statement of Mr. Stupak follows:] 


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Committee on Energy and Commerce 

Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations 

Hearing on "The Outbreak of Salmonella in Eggs" 

Rep. Bart Stupak, Chairman 

Opening Statement 

September 22, 2010 

Today's hearing entitled "The Outbreak of Salmonella in Eggs" will mark the 13th 

hearing of the Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee since January 2007 regarding 

food safety issues. We have examined a Salmonella outbreak associated with peanut 

products manufactured by the Peanut Corporation of America which resulted in a 

criminal investigation. 

Additionally, we have investigated an E. coli outbreak traced to tainted spinach, and 

melamine-contaminated pet food, and other food safety inquiries. 

Today, we will continue our examination into the food safety problems that continue to 

plague farms, producers, and the American consumers. This time around we are dealing 

with two companies producing eggs in the state ofIowa and sold nationwide. 1,608 

people were infected with Salmonella Enteritidis from eggs between May 1 and 

September 14. 

What we learned about the two Iowa egg operations that produced the tainted eggs paint 

a very disturbing picture of egg production in America. 

When FDA inspectors entered the plants in August, they found facilities riddled with 

unsanitary and unsafe conditions. According to the inspectors' preliminary report: 

Employees working within the hen laying houses did not wear or change 

protective clothing when moving from house to house. 

Live rodents were located in the laying houses. 

Liquid manure oozing out of buildings. 

Dead and decaying chickens. 

Live and dead flies to numerous to count. 

Most importantly, positive test results for salmonella were found in both farms, 

including in the feed mill and in the water used to wash the eggs. 

Even more alarming, during the course of its investigation, the Committee has obtained 

records that show that Wright County Egg tested positive for Salmonella contamination 

in its Iowa facilities prior to the widespread outbreak of illnesses. Environmental sample 

reports, taken in and around the chicken cages, between 2008 and 2010 indicate that 

Wright County Egg received 426 positive results for Salmonella, including 73 samples 
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that were potentially positive for Salmonella Enteritidis, the same strain that has sickened 

1,519 people. 

Perhaps these findings should not be a surprise given the record of the DeCoster Farm 

operation that owns the Wright County Egg facilities. In fact, DeCoster Farm had so 

many environmental and safety violations that the State ofIowa declared them "habitual 

violators" and assessed a total of$219,000 in civil penalties. DeCoster Farm is the only 

entity to receive the "habitual violator" status from the State of Iowa. 

The work of this Subcommittee, coupled with the work of the Health Subcommittee and 

the full Committee, on food safety culminated in the bi-partisan introduction ofH.R. 

2749, the Food Safety Enhancement Act, which passed the Committee by unanimous 

consent and the U.S. House of Representatives on July 30, 2009. This food safety 

legislation has been stalled in the Senate for more than a year. 

The provisions contained in our food safety legislation would address several concerns 

raised by this outbreak. For example, the bill would require new traceback regulations 

that enable the Secretary to identify the history of the food as quickly as possible, but no 

later than two business days. 

The food safety legislation would give the FDA the needed authority to issue mandatory 

recalls and subpoena records oftainted food products. While in this case the two Iowa 

farms did issue voluntary recalls, FDA should not have to rely on the companies' good 

will when the public's health is at risk. 

The legislation will also give the FDA a guaranteed, consistent source of funding through 

the registration fees. These fees will allow the FDA to conduct more inspections, to be 

pro-active, and prevent outbreaks from occurring. 

We will hear testimony from witnesses with different perspectives on the recall: victims 

ofthis outbreak, the manufacturers of the recalled eggs, and a representative from FDA. 

On our first panel we have two victims that were affected by the Salmonella Enteritidis, 

Sarah Lewis and Carol Lobato. Sarah, a 30-year-old, mother of two, contracted 

Salmonella Enteritidis from eating a tart at her sister's college graduation banquet. Sarah 

has been admitted twice to the hospital to treat the Salmonella and is just now beginning 

to feel better. Sarah works at her parents butcher shop, which they have owned since the 

1970s. Sarah is very familiar with local and state regulations, as they are subject to 

constant inspections. 

Carol is a 77-year-old, married mother off our and grandmother of four. When Carol and 

her husband took her grandson out to dinner in Colorado she contracted Salmonella 

Enteritidis. Carol is very familiar with egg farms as she was raised in Iowa on a chicken 

farm. Carol spent five days in the hospital suffering from toxic shock, severe diarrhea and 

vomiting. 
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Our second panel will include Austin DeCoster, owner of Wright County Egg, his son, 

Peter DeCoster, Chief Operating Officer, Orland Bethel, President of Hillandale Fanns of 

Iowa and Duane Mangskau, Production Manager, Hillandale Farm oflowa. It is my 

sincere hope these gentlemen will be forthcoming regarding the events of the outbreak 

and what they are doing to ensure eggs produced on their fanns are safe for the American 

people. 

On the third and final panel we will have Dr. Josh Sharfstein, Deputy Commissioner, 

from the Food and Drug Administration. 

I look forward to hearing from our witnesses today about progress that has been made 

since the outbreak occurred and how we can strengthen our food safety system. 

Our Committee began pushing for refonn of the food safety system more than three years 

ago. Our hearings have demonstrated that weaknesses in our food safety system will 

remain until we enact an effective food safety bill into law. Make no mistake: Without 

legislative action it is not a matter of if but when more lives will be put at risk by another 

outbreak, as evident by today's hearing. This outbreak affected 1,608 individuals, two of 

which are here today to tell their story. Fortunately, no one has died. 

In each of our 13 food safety hearings, we are reminded that each year, approximately 76 

million Americans become sick from food borne disease, such as Salmonella, 325,000 

are hospitalized and 5,000 deaths will occur in the United States. 

It is time to give our regulators the "tools" they need to be pro-active in the fight against 

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Mr. STUPAK. I yield back the balance of my time. I next turn to 

the ranking member of the subcommittee, Mr. Burgess of Texas, 

for an opening statement. 

Mr. Burgess? 

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. MICHAEL C. BURGESS, A 

REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS 

Mr. BURGESS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

I want to thank you and our witnesses who are here with us 

today for participating in this very important hearing. Because, 

once again, as you have already articulated, we find ourselves in 

the middle of a food-borne illness outbreak, this time involving the 

safety of a food item that we frequently buy, eat, and serve to our 

families. 

Just this morning, I viewed pictures taken by the Food and Drug 

Administration at both companies’ egg production facilities during 

the FDA inspections. These photos document some extremely unsanitary and unsightly conditions, including piles of chicken manure that was pushed up against an open doorway and leaking outside a laying house, dead flies by the thousands, rodent holes, 

structural damage to buildings, and chicken carcasses. 

Now, these companies must be able to account for and respond 

to these photos. And I am also anxious to ask the Food and Drug 

Administration if the public can take comfort in the fact that these 

observations are not normal. I wonder if the FDA will be able to 

answer this question, considering that they have not inspected any 

other egg production facilities besides these two in quite some time. 

To date, the Centers for Disease Control has reported that over 

1,500 illnesses are likely to be associated with Salmonella in eggs. 

I want to thank our first panel of witness, both victims of this outbreak, for appearing today to share your stories. 

The outbreak of Salmonella in eggs is unique in that the Salmonella contamination is not from the shell but from the interior 

of the egg. Test results indicate that the laying hens themselves 

were infected with Salmonella and the hens passed the contamination through the inside of the eggs. 

One very important fact about the investigation, perhaps an indication that this hearing is held before we have all the facts, is that 

the ultimate source of the Salmonella contamination is not yet certain. Concerns about the feed given to the young chickens and the 

unsanitary conditions of the suspect farms have been raised. I hope 

that the testimony provided today will move us closer to understanding the original source of the contamination and how to prevent it from ever happening again. 

By early August, the trace-back investigations completed by the 

CDC, the FDA, and the State partners indicated a common source 

of contamination from a single farm owned by the DeCoster family. 

On August 13, Wright County Egg issued a voluntary recall of approximately 380 million. And on August 19, Hillandale, owned by 

Mr. Orlando Bethel, issued a voluntary recall of eggs after being 

suspected as a potential source of contamination. 

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tographs obtained by this committee raise serious questions about 

whether both of these companies were consistently maintaining 

such good practices. 

Of particular interest are the documents that show the test results done on behalf of DeCoster Farms in 2008 through 2010. The 

occurrence of Salmonella positive environmental samples is frequent: 72 of environmental sponges were tested for Salmonella, and 

only 8 were negative. 

Experts who have spoken to staff have indicated that environmental samples that turn up positive for Salmonella may be expected on a farm and do not necessarily indicate that the food and 

product is contaminated, but I want to know if these findings warrant cause for alarm and become troublesome if positive results become a pattern and are not rectified. 

I want to ask the DeCosters about these tests and what the company gleaned from this information, and I am also interested in 

what the FDA has to say about this, as well. 

Other documents obtained by the committee include numerous 

sanitation reports completed by the Department of Agriculture and 

marketing services, some of the hazard plans, unsatisfactory conditions—unsatisfactory sanitary conditions, and an array of observations of Wright County Egg over a 4-year period of time. I would 

like Mr. DeCoster to comment and explain these records. 

Although the Food and Drug Administration has told my staff 

that eggs have historically been considered a high-risk food product, the FDA did not inspect these egg facilities prior to the outbreak. During the inspections discussed in the FDA Form 483, the 

investigators noted that each company failed to fully implement 

and follow procedures in their Salmonella-prevention plans, and 

now we have the pictures to document that failing. 

Tests conducted in August by FDA investigators at Wright County Egg were positive for the same and other strains of Salmonella. 

These samples were taken from manure pits, walkways, chicken 

feeds, and other surfaces. I want an up-to-date report from the 

companies and the FDA explaining where the exact matches of Salmonella to the outbreak strain that caused human illnesses were 

found and how the companies and the Food and Drug Administration interpret these results. 

It is important for the FDA, as well as the industry, to work cooperatively internally with other Federal agencies and with health 

and agricultural departments to reduce the number of and help 

prevent food-borne illness. A new egg rule became effective this 

July that addresses several of these concerns associated with eggs 

involved in this outbreak. However, it took the Food and Drug Administration over 10 years to act on this issue, illustrating the continued systemic, problematic, and bureaucratic weaknesses that 

plague the Food and Drug Administration. The future FDA should 

not be a reactive body; it should be proactive. 

Mr. Chairman, I support conducting this investigation and holding a hearing. I am concerned that we are not always done in a 

most bipartisan and useful manner. September 9, I sent a letter to 

you stating that I thought the CEO of the FDA, the commissioner 

of the FDA, Dr. Margaret Hamburg, should be here to offer the 

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have repeatedly stated publicly that food safety and the resources 

of the FDA is a top priority and must be taken seriously, quickly 

addressed. In the 110th Congress, Commissioner Andrew von 

Eschenbach was here four times and testified on food safety. 

The majority declined to invite a representative from the United 

States Department of Agriculture to testify, even though the committee sent a document request to the agency, held a briefing, and 

received thousands of pages of relevant information concerning 

their role in the regulation of these farms and this outbreak. 

Staff has obtained and reviewed relevant revealing USDA documents, including USDA shell egg plant system audit reports, preoperative sanitation reports. And the USDA inspector notes an observation from Wright County Egg. This hearing would be more 

productive if a USDA official were here to answer questions related 

to these documents and perhaps answer the number-one question: 

Why didn’t you say anything to the Food and Drug Administration? 

The ultimate goals of this hearing are good, and I support the 

food-safety legislation this House has passed in 2009. I am eager 

for the Senate to move on this important issue. 

Mr. Chairman, I thank you for your forbearance, and I will yield 

back the balance of my time. 

Mr. STUPAK. The gentleman’s time has expired. 

Mr. Waxman, chairman of the full committee, for an opening 

statement, please. 

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. HENRY A. WAXMAN, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA 

Mr. WAXMAN. Thank you very much, Chairman Stupak, for calling this hearing. 

And before I address the concerns of this hearing specifically, I 

want to thank you for a record of 4 years of diligence in pursuing 

issues of food safety. Your work stands out as a model of congressional oversight and investigation, and you have illustrated very 

clearly the need for stronger food-safety laws. You have had 13 

hearings in the last 4 years. You educated the members of this 

committee and the American people about glaring deficiencies at 

all levels of our food-safety network. 

Today we are going to examine two of the Nation’s largest egg 

producers, Wright County Egg and Hillandale Farms of Iowa. They 

have been asked to appear today because of evidence that they produced eggs in filthy conditions that caused food poisoning in thousands of consumers across the country. 

The DeCoster family, which owns Wright County Egg and raised 

eggs for Hillandale Farms in Iowa, has known about safety problems at these facilitates for decades, yet they continue to persist. 

Over 30 years ago, eggs from a farm operated by the DeCoster family killed 9 people and sickened 500 in New York. Twenty years 

ago, Maryland ordered the DeCosters to stop selling eggs in the 

State because of the contamination problem. 

As the committee revealed last week, environmental testing at 

DeCoster facilities over the last 3 years tested positive dozens of 

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operated with a shocking level of disregard for basic food-safety 

controls. 

Food-safety inspectors from FDA finally went inside the facilities 

in August. And as a photograph I would like to have displayed 

shows, they saw decaying corpses of rodents. They also saw unsealed rodent holes along the walls of a henhouse. Conditions were 

so bad in one facility that the wall of the barn was bursting open 

because of the excessive manure. 

DeCoster farms have had warning after warning, yet they continue to raise chickens in slovenly conditions and to make millions 

of dollars by selling contaminated eggs. The risks are real. 

Our first two witnesses today are Ms. Sarah Lewis and Ms. Carol 

Lobato. Ms. Lewis ate contaminated eggs while celebrating her sister’s college graduation. Ms. Lobato was sickened when she went 

out to dinner with her grandson. They were both hospitalized and 

gravely ill. And I commend both of them for their courage in speaking out today and being with us at this hearing. 

Unfortunately, their horrific experiences were shared by many 

others. The eggs that are the subject of today’s hearing sickened 

over 1,600 people in 11 States. 

This hearing will make abundantly clear that our food-safety 

laws need a thorough overhaul. Under the leadership of our chairman emeritus, John Dingell, the committee and the House passed 

a bipartisan bill last year that would protect consumers from these 

abuses. The House bill would require farms to report to FDA when 

they find their unsafe food has entered the food supply. It would 

give the FDA the clear authority to access records on egg farms 

during investigations. It would empower the FDA to mandate recalls when firms do not comply voluntarily. These are the kinds of 

tools that will ensure the safety of the food we consume. 

Yet, as we hold this hearing today, one Senator, a lone Senator, 

Tom Coburn, is holding this vital safety legislation hostage in the 

Senate. His actions are preventing the FDA from strengthening its 

oversight and enforcement programs. In fact, they are preventing 

the Senate of the United States from debating the issue, offering 

amendments, and making decisions about the legislation. 

And I have a plea for Senator Coburn: For the sake of Ms. Lewis, 

Ms. Lobato, and hundreds of thousands of Americans who are 

poisoned by Salmonella every year, please lift your hold and allow 

this vital safety legislation to move forward. 

We are going to have some tough questions today for Jack 

DeCoster, the CEO of Wright County Egg, and Orland Bethel, the 

CEO of Hillandale Farms. But I do want to thank them for appearing here voluntarily and for cooperating with our committee’s investigation. 

I also want to thank FDA Deputy Commissioner Dr. Joshua 

Sharfstein for testifying before us today. 

Our goal is to make American families safer. That is why this 

hearing is so important and why we must reform our food-safety 

system so that we can eradicate or at least reduce food-borne illnesses. 

Imagine: The FDA cannot get information from these farms. 

They don’t have the ability to subpoena. They have to be given to 

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issue a warrant to get information. There is no obligation by these 

farms to report to the FDA, even when they know there is a foodsafety problem. 

This is unthinkable. That is why the House unanimously—this 

committee unanimously approved the bill and the House overwhelmingly adopted it. And now we want the Senate to act. Let’s 

don’t go home from Congress without passing food-safety legislation. 

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

[The prepared statement of Mr. Waxman follows:] 


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HENRY A. WAXMAN, CALIFORNIA 

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Statement of Rep. Henry A, Waxman 

Chairman, Committee on Energy and Commerce 

"The Outbreak of Salmonella in Eggs" 

Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations 

September 22, 2010 

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RANKING MEMBER 

Thank you, Chairman Stupak. You have shown tremendous leadership on this issue and 

the need for stronger food safety laws. Your work stands out as a model of congressional 

oversight and investigation. During the course of 13 hearings in the last four years, you educated 

the members of this Committee and the American people about glaring deficiencies at all levels 

of our food safety network. 

Today we will examine two of the nation's largest egg producers, Wright County Egg 

and Hillandale Farms of Iowa. They have been asked to appear today because of evidence that 

they produced eggs in filthy conditions that caused food poisoning in thousands of consumers 

across the country. 

The DeCoster family, which owns Wright County Egg and raised eggs for Hillandale 

Farms in Iowa, has known about safety problems at its facilities for decades, yet they continue to 

persist. Over 30 years ago, eggs from a farm operated by the DeCoster family killed nine people 

and sickened 500 in New York. Twenty years ago, Maryland ordered the DeCosters to stop 

selling eggs in the state because of the contamination problems. 

And as the Committee revealed last week, environmental testing at DeCoster facilities 

over the last three years tested positive dozens oftimes for potential contamination by a 

dangerous form of Salmonella. 

Yet despite these warnings, the DeCoster facilities were operated with a shocking level of 

disregard for basic food safety controls. Food safety inspectors from .the Food and Drug 

Administration (FDA) finally went inside the facilities in August. As this photograph shows, 

they saw decaying corpses of rodents. They also saw unsealed rodent holes along the walls of a 

hen house. 

Conditions were so bad in one facility that the wall of the barn was bursting open because 

of excessive manure. 

DeCoster farms have had warning after warning. Yet they continue to raise chickens in 

slovenly conditions - and to make millions by selling contaminated eggs. 
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The risks are real. Our first two witnesses today are Ms. Sarah Lewis and Ms. Carol 

Lobato. Ms. Lewis ate contaminated eggs while celebrating her sister's college graduation, and 

Ms. Lobato was sickened when she went out to dinner with her grandson. They were both 

hospitalized and gravely ill. 

I commend Ms. Lewis and Ms. Lobato for their courage in speaking out today. 

Unfortunately, their horrific experiences were shared by many others. The eggs that are the 

subject oftoday's hearing sickened over 1,600 people in 11 states. 

This hearing will make abundantly clear that our food safety laws need a thorough 

overhaul. Under the leadership of our Chairman Emeritus, John Dingell, the Committee and the 

House passed a bipartisan bill last year that would protect consumers from these abuses. The 

House bill would require farms to report to FDA when they find their unsafe food has entered the 

food supply. It would give FDA the clear authority to access records on egg farms during 

investigations. And it would empower FDA to mandate recalls when firms do not comply 

voluntarily. These are the kind of tools that will ensure the safety of the food we consume. 

Yet as we hold this hearing today, a lone U.S. Senator, Tom Coburn, is holding this vital 

safety legislation hostage in the Senate. His actions are preventing FDA from strengthening its 

oversight and enforcement programs. 

I have a plea for Senator Coburn: for the sake of Ms. Lewis, Ms. Lobato, and the 

hundreds ofthousands of Americans who are poisoned by Salmonella every year, please lift your 

hold and allow this vital safety legislation to move forward. 

We will have tough questions today for Jack DeCoster, the CEO of Wright County Egg, 

and Orland Bethel, the CEO of Hill andale Farms. But I do want to thank them for appearing 

here voluntarily and for cooperating with the Committee's investigation. I also want to thank 

FDA Deputy Commissioner Dr. Joshua Sharfstein for testifying before us. 

Our goal is to make American families safer. That is why this hearing is so important 

and why we must reform our food safety system so that we can eradicate or at least reduce foodborne illness. 

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Mr. STUPAK. Thank you, Mr. Waxman. 

Mr. Latta for an opening statement, please, 3 minutes. 

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. ROBERT E. LATTA, A 

REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF OHIO 

Mr. LATTA. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Ranking Member Burgess. Thank you for holding this subcommittee hearing on the outbreak of the Salmonella in eggs, as the incidence of contaminated 

food products are a serious concern for our public health. 

I am very glad that the two witnesses on our first panel who 

were affected by these eggs are here today and are on the road to 

recovery and able to be with us. 

This hearing is also of grave concern to me because egg production is critical to my State, Ohio, which is the second-largest eggproducing State in the Nation. I know many of you have heard me 

in the past say that I represent the largest manufacturing district 

in Ohio, but at same time I also represent the largest agricultural 

district in the State of Ohio. And in those numbers, I also am home 

to one of two of the top egg-producing counties in the Nation. When 

you look at 465.5 million eggs being produced in my district, that 

has an economic impact of $102.4 million. Ohio is also 1 of the 10 

States with an egg quality assurance program, with the aim to 

minimize Salmonella in eggs. 

First of all, I think it is important that we remember that the 

purpose of this hearing is to get the facts. While we have the FDA 

Form 483 with its general observations about the conditions at the 

Wright County Egg and the Hillandale Farms operations in Iowa 

that are being investigated, we do not have the establishment inspection report, which will provide more clear answers. 

Furthermore, I am disappointed that the FDA commissioner is 

not here to testify, nor is a representative from the USDA. We need 

to get these answers and hear what went wrong from these producers so that the industry can learn from this recall. We do not 

want the public to lose confidence in our egg producers. 

Several of the egg producers in my district are fourth-generation 

farmers and have been committed to producing a safe, healthy 

product for years. If we have overburdening regulations that are 

placed out there, many of these farmers may be forced out of business, unfortunately preventing a fifth generation from being able to 

farm. 

The safety and security of our Nation’s food supply is of the utmost importance to me. Mr. Chairman, I want to thank you very 

much for the opportunity. And I look forward to hearing the testimony from our witnesses on the panel today. 

And, Mr. Chairman, if I may, I would also like to submit for the 

record from the Ohio Poultry Association a document on egg facts 

in Ohio. 

Mr. STUPAK. Without objection, that will be made part of your 

opening statement and we will receive the document. 

Mr. LATTA. Thank you. And I yield back. 

[The prepared statement of Mr. Latta follows:] 


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Congressman Robert E. Latta 

The Committee on Energy & Commerce 

Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations 

Opening Statement - For the Record 

September 22,2010 

MR. CHAIRMAN; RANKING MEMBER BURGESS: Thank you 

for holding this subcommittee hearing on the outbreak of Salmonella in 

eggs, as incidences of contaminated food products are a serious concern 

for public health. I am very glad that the two witnesses on our first 

panel who were affected by these eggs are on the road to recovery and 

are able to be with us today. 

This hearing is also of great concern to me because egg production 

is critical to my state, Ohio, which is the second-largest egg producing 

state in the nation, with 7.1 billion eggs. Many of you have heard me 

say that I represent the largest manufacturing district in Ohio, but I also 

represent the largest agriculture district in Ohio. Furthermore, my 

district is home to one of the top two egg producing counties in the 

nation. Ohio's egg industry produces 465.5 million eggs in my district, 

and has an economic impact of 102.4 million dollars. 
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Ohio is also one of the ten states with an egg quality assurance program 

with the aim to minimizing Salmonella in eggs. 

First of all, I think it is important that we remember that the 

purpose of this hearing is to get the facts. While we have the FDA form 

483 with general observations about the conditions at the Wright County 

Egg and Hillendale Farms operations in Iowa that are being investigated, 

we do not yet have the Establishment Inspection Report which will 

provide more clear answers. Furthermore, I am disappointed that the 

FDA Commissioner is not here to testifY, nor is a representative from the 

USDA. 

We need to get answers and hear what went wrong from these 

producers so that the industry learns from this recall. We do not want 

the public to lose confidence in our egg producers. 

Several of the egg producers in my district are fourth generation 

farmers and have been committed to producing a safe, healthy product 

for years. Ifwe have over-burdening regulations that are placed out 

there, many of these farmers may be forced out of business -

unfortunately, preventing a fifth-generation from being able to farm. 
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The safety and security of the nation's food supply is of utmost 

importance to me. Mr. Chairman, thank you for this opportunity, and I 

look forward to hearing the testimony from the witnesses on the panel 

today. I would also like to submit a document for the record from the 

Ohio Poultry Association on egg facts in Ohio. 
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Mr. STUPAK. Thank you. 

Mr. Braley from Iowa for an opening statement, please. 

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. BRUCE L. BRALEY, A 

REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF IOWA 

Mr. BRALEY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

Some of my earliest memories are walking into my grandparents’ 

henhouses in Iowa to gather eggs. There was something almost 

spiritual about this daily routine act. Growing up in Iowa, you 

couldn’t avoid commercials promoting ‘‘the incredible, edible egg.’’ 

Eggs were a staple in our diet. We ate them fried, poached, hardboiled, softboiled, overeasy, overhard, sunny side up, scrambled, in 

omelets. And that was just for breakfast. We truly believed that 

eggs were nature’s most nearly perfect food. 

Growing up in Iowa, I don’t remember my mother buying eggs 

in a supermarket. We drove out to the country and we bought them 

right off the farm from the mothers of the kids we went to school 

with. We dyed them at Easter, and we threw them on Halloween, 

and we never, ever imagined that they could cause life-threatening 

illness and kill us. 

That is why the recent revelations of an incomprehensible halfbillion egg recall originating in my home State was so disturbing. 

So why are we here? First and foremost, we need to examine how 

and why this happened to ensure the safety of American families 

and prevent this type of tragedy from happening in the future. 

Second, we need to identify and eliminate weaknesses in our 

State and Federal food-safety enforcement system and take strong 

measures to hold wrongdoers accountable and protect the good reputations of producers who consistently play by the rules and supply 

safe food that is at a high quality and a reasonable price. 

The economic impact of egg producers in Iowa is indisputable. 

Iowa is America’s number-one egg producer by a country mile. Yet, 

economic impact is no trump card when lives are at stake. Like 

many Americans, I am disturbed by the increasing number of foodborne illnesses in the United States. These incidents all raise important questions about the safety and security of our Nation’s food 

supply. 

As an Iowan, I am offended that some in the egg industry are 

suggesting that consumers are somehow responsible for getting 

sick because they didn’t properly cook their eggs. Now is the time 

for accountability, not blame shifting. 

As an Iowan, I was disgusted to read reports about Federal investigators finding live mice, infestations of flies, mountains of manure, and other unsanitary conditions in Iowa henhouses linked to 

the largest Salmonella outbreak of its kind in the United States. 

It is clear that changes need to be made to our food system to 

provide assurances to parents that the food they feed to their families is safe. The House passed food-safety legislation last year. You 

have heard about it. It would give the FDA authority to order mandatory food recalls, impose fines for food-safety violations, and require more frequent food facility inspections. It would also give the 

FDA access to company records in the case of an emergency. These 

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We need to be doing a much better job of protecting American 

families from unsafe food. Every 4 years, Mr. Chairman, people 

come to my State for the presidential caucuses and see our magnificent gold-domed capitol. Yet few people take the time to go inside and look up at the rotunda, where our ancestors put the wisdom of the ages. My favorite saying in that rotunda is from the 

Greek lawmaker Solon, who said, ‘‘The ideal state: that in which 

an injury done to the least of its citizens is an injury done to all.’’ 

Until we get serious about uniform Federal food-safety practices 

in this country, we are far from becoming that ideal state. And 

until consumers feel as safe and secure buying eggs in their neighborhood supermarket as I felt in my grandparents’ henhouse, egg 

producers in Iowa and across the country have their work cut out 

for them. 

I yield back. 

Mr. STUPAK. Thank you for your opening statement. But do you 

want on the record you threw eggs at Halloween? 

Ms. DeGette, opening statement, please. 

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. DIANA DEGETTE, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF COLORADO 

Ms. DEGETTE. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 

I want to add to the chairman’s thanks to you for all of these 

hearings over the last number of years, the 13 hearings. I think I 

have been sitting with you, Mr. Chairman, for every single one of 

those hearings, everything from spinach to peanut butter, to 

jalapeno peppers, to meat, to nuts. Pretty much the American diet 

has been under scrutiny in the last few years. 

And I just have one question. And the question that I have is, 

when is the Senate going to pass the very fine food-safety bill that 

this House passed over a year ago? I don’t think it is any excuse 

that one Senator can hold up the bill. But if that is the excuse, 

then I would add to Chairman Waxman’s demand that Senator 

Coburn release his hold on this bill. 

But, beyond that, I think the Senate should stay in session until 

they pass this bill. The reason is, if we don’t, we are going to be 

sitting here every 6 months, just like we have been for the last 4 

years. And the problem with that, it is not just about us passing 

the legislation; it is about people like the witnesses who are sitting 

here today, Ms. Lewis and Ms. Lobato. 

And, you know, I want to welcome all of you and say how glad 

I am that you are putting a human face on this again. I particularly have to welcome the Lobatos because they have been family 

friends of my family, Mr. Chairman, for many, many years. We 

won’t say how long, because then we will have to reveal our ages. 

But thank you for coming to talk to us about what is going on here. 

You know, we can fix this problem. This egg outbreak, which is 

outrageous, could have been minimized. I mean, aside from the 

conditions at the henhouses and everything else, if this bill had 

been law, several things in this legislation could have mitigated 

this problem. 

It took 3 months before this voluntary recall, and there were 

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source of contamination was. There are three components to the 

legislation that this committee and the House passed that are now 

in the Senate bill that would have prevented this. 

Number one, under our legislation, the FDA would be able to get 

the records to show where the contamination came from. 

Number two, traceability. This was a provision that I worked to 

get into the legislation which would allow contaminated products 

to be quickly traced from the field, or, in this case, the henhouse, 

to the fork. And that would greatly decrease the amount of time 

it would have taken for us to identify the source of the contamination. 

And the third thing is, the FDA would have now mandatory recall authority. So if the producers themselves didn’t recall the product, then the FDA could have. 

All of these things together would have applied in this situation 

if this bill had become law. And so, frankly, Mr. Chairman, we 

can’t wait until after the election. We can’t wait until the next Congress starts. We need to make this bill law now. And I would urge 

every single person who is here or who is watching this to call their 

Senators and urge them to enact this law before we leave. 

Mr. STUPAK. The gentlelady yields back. 

Mr. Doyle for an opening statement, please. 

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. MICHAEL F. DOYLE, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE COMMONWEALTH 

OF PENNSYLVANIA 

Mr. DOYLE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will be brief. I want to 

thank you for holding this hearing, and also to say what a pleasure 

it has been to serve with you on this panel over the years. We are 

going to miss your presence next year. 

My thanks also go out to all the witnesses for agreeing to be here 

to testify, especially our first panel, Ms. Lewis and Ms. Lobato. 

You know, I remember growing up and learning from my mom 

how to properly cook eggs because you never knew if the heartbreak of Salmonella was just around the corner. And it took me 

years before I found out that ‘‘Sam and Ella’’ weren’t actually people in the eggs. 

But even though Salmonella has always been a risk when dealing with eggs and poultry and even though consumers know they 

have to cook them the right way, people have a reasonable expectation that egg producers are doing all they can to identify and fix 

issues in production that could cause their hens to get Salmonella 

and pass it on to the eggs. 

And it looks like it didn’t happen here, so I look forward to learning why. Why did companies with a record of prior violations not 

ensure their facilities were clean and free of rodents? Why did positive tests for Salmonella not cause the producers to go into overdrive to clean up their premises? Why did those eggs go to market, 

into restaurants, into consumers’ homes, where they could make so 

many people sick? 

You know, it is a blessing that there are no reported deaths from 

these cases. So I hope we can learn enough today to make sure 

there isn’t a next time, because next time we might not be so lucky. 

So I look forward to hearing from our witnesses today. 


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And, with that, Mr. Chairman, I will yield back. 

Mr. STUPAK. Thank you, Mr. Doyle. 

Mrs. Christensen for an opening statement, please. 

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. DONNA M. CHRISTENSEN, A 

REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS 

Mrs. CHRISTENSEN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

Here we go again, unfortunately, at another hearing of food contamination. But thank you, Chairman Stupak and Ranking Member Burgess, for your quick response in holding today’s hearing on 

the recent outbreak of Salmonella in eggs, which highlights yet another crack in our country’s food-safety system. 

In late August, the Food and Drug Administration officials reported that they found positive samples of Salmonella that linked 

two farms into a massive egg recall. Investigators reportedly found 

Salmonella in chicken feed sent to both Wright County Egg and 

Hillandale Farms. More than 550 million eggs from the 2 farms 

were recalled in August after they were linked to as many as 1,300 

cases of Salmonella poisoning. 

And I want to also join my colleagues in thanking some of those 

who were harmed by this outbreak for being here today to testify. 

FDA indicated that contaminated feed was the source of the outbreak but possibly not the only source. Subsequent on-site inspections revealed grossly unsanitary conditions. 

A common thread in the numerous hearings we have held on 

food safety, or the lack thereof, is the inadequate and fragmented 

regulation of food in this country. As in this case, there is often a 

long history of noncompliance with safety and sanitation measures, 

resulting in problems. Wright County Farms, the company involved 

in this outbreak, has been associated with outbreaks since the 

early 1980s. 

In the case of eggs, the Ag Department oversees chickens and 

grades eggs for their quality. The FDA is responsible for the safety 

of eggs on their shelves. FDA inspects farms after an outbreak of 

egg-borne disease has been detected, not before. This is just another example of the bureaucratic gaps in regulating food safety 

that continue to put consumers at risk. 

As you have heard, last year the House passed H.R. 2749, the 

Food Safety Enactment Act, in response to our Nation’s food-safety—what we consider a crisis. But it remains stalled in the Senate. 

Among other regulatory changes, this bill would give the FDA the 

power of mandatory recall of diseased food, as well as oversight 

and access to the safety plans that food service facilities establish, 

as well as the tests that are conducted to measure safety and inspection records. Until these new regulations are in place, we will 

not be able to strengthen the food-safety oversight. 

And I do realize that FDA did put some new regulations in place 

too late—a little too late to really stop this outbreak. But I hope 

today’s hearing will further emphasize the need for the Senate to 

pass this bill. 

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back the balance of my time. 

Mr. STUPAK. Thank you. 

Mr. Markey for an opening statement, please. 


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OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. EDWARD J. MARKEY, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE COMMONWEALTH 

OF MASSACHUSETTS 

Mr. MARKEY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for holding this hearing. 

Thanks to Chairman Waxman for his leadership in bringing this 

issue out into the open. 

And, to our witnesses, we wish you all a full and speedy recovery 

from this debilitating and life-threatening experience. 

We can all easily agree that Americans should be able to have 

their eggs over-easy without having to worry that the eggs will 

make them queasy. But more than a thousand people have been severely sickened by eggs laced with Salmonella since the eggs first 

entered the food chain in May. More than half a billion eggs have 

been voluntarily recalled since August. As we have learned, the 

conditions found in the facilities connected to these eggs were horrific, like something out of Upton Sinclair’s ‘‘The Jungle.’’ 

It is my fear that this recall may not be the end of the story. 

There are many egg-producing facilities in other States with strong 

corporate ties to the companies responsible for the Iowa recall that 

have not yet been inspected by the FDA. 

And with Senator Tom Coburn’s recent announcement of opposition to the Senate food-safety bill, the FDA may well continue to 

be denied the strong enforcement tools it needs to crack down on 

unsafe practices that the House passed last year, leaving the corporate fox in charge of the henhouse indefinitely. 

I know that Senator Coburn is a Republican. I know the Republicans in the Senate are trying to stop any legislation from passing. 

This is a public health imperative. There must be some exception 

for Republicans in the Senate when it goes to the health of millions 

of Americans. They must release this bill so we can protect millions 

of families. 

This past July, the FDA’s new egg rule went into effect, imposing 

additional safety requirements on large egg producers and ensuring 

that there will be more FDA inspections at the facilities. So the 

jury is still out as to whether the Iowa facilities implicated in this 

infestation represent just a few rotten eggs or whether the safety 

of this country’s egg supply is more like Humpty Dumpty: shattered and in need of full-scale reconstruction. 

According to reports, companies owned or operated by one of our 

witnesses today have a decades-long record of public health, labor, 

and environmental offenses. DeCoster Egg and Feed facilities in 

Maine and other States have a long history of being found to be 

responsible for Salmonella infection, dumping piles of dead chickens aboveground, animal cruelty, worker-safety violations, and 

other problems. Instead of walking on eggshells to comply with 

State and Federal regulations, the hardboiled corporate executives 

in Iowa kept facilities from inspections that showed that ultimately 

they were overflowing with manure and infested by rodents and 

flies. 

My home state of Massachusetts gets many of its eggs from the 

Maine facilities owned, operated, or otherwise tied to Mr. DeCoster. 

It is going to be important for us in Massachusetts, in New England, to know whether or not we are at threat, as well. 

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for having this hearing. 


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Mr. STUPAK. Thank you, Mr. Markey. 

That concludes—— 

Mr. BURGESS. Mr. Chairman, may I ask for a moment for a 

unanimous consent request? 

Mr. STUPAK. You can ask. I am not sure it is going to be given, 

but—— 

Mr. BURGESS. I would like unanimous consent to insert a statement into the record from Dr. Tom Coburn, in that he is not blocking this bill. It is Senator Reid who has failed to bring this bill to 

the floor. Senator Reid’s comments that Senator Coburn is blocking 

the bill are false, and Mr. Reid knows they are false. And that 

needs to be entered into the record. 

Mr. STUPAK. All right. 

Mr. WAXMAN. I object. I don’t believe that that is an accurate 

statement, so I would object it going into the record. 

Mr. STUPAK. OK. The objection will not be made part of the 

record. If you want to submit something later, Mr. Burgess, to supplement your testimony, I am sure we can work with it. But right 

now nothing is going to be entered in the record, OK? 

All right. That concludes the opening statements by the members 

of the subcommittee. I want to call our first panel of witnesses. 

Our first panel, we have—first is Ms. Sarah Lewis from Freedom, California, and Ms. Carol Lobato from Littleton, Colorado. 

I would ask you to please come forward, take a seat at the witness table. 

It is the policy of this subcommittee to take all testimony under 

oath. Please be advised that you have a right under the rules of 

the House to be advised by counsel during the testimony. Do either 

of you wish to be represented by counsel? 

Ms. LEWIS. No. 

Ms. LOBATO. No. 

Mr. STUPAK. No? OK. Then I am going to ask—you both answered, no, you do not wish to be represented by counsel. Therefore, I will ask you to rise and raise your right hand to take the 

oath. 

[Witnesses sworn.] 

Mr. STUPAK. Let the record reflect that the witnesses replied in 

the affirmative. They are now under oath. 

We will look forward to your opening statement. 

Ms. Lewis, if you don’t mind, I will start with you. If you would 

like to pull that mike forward and press the button, a green light 

should go on. There we go. We are ready to go. Thank you. Thank 

you for being here. 

TESTIMONY OF SARAH LEWIS, VICTIM OF SALMONELLA OUTBREAK; AND CAROL LOBATO, VICTIM OF SALMONELLA OUTBREAK 

TESTIMONY OF SARAH LEWIS 

Ms. LEWIS. Good afternoon. Thank you, Chairman Stupak, Ranking Member Burgess, and Chairwoman Waxman, and committee 

members. I am honored to be here today and speak to you about 

my experience with Salmonella poisoning that I got from the recent 

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My name is Sarah Lewis. I am 30 years old. I am a mom, a wife, 

and a proud daughter of a small-business owner that abides by all 

of our local and State regulations. I have two beautiful daughters: 

Hailey, 7; Kyndall, 4. I have a wonderful husband who has served 

our country proudly as a Marine, Chris Lewis. 

Not only did this experience affect me, it affected my whole family. My sister Stacey also got Salmonella poisoning from the eggs. 

The night we ate the custard tart was at my sister’s graduation 

banquet. My whole family was there: my mom, my kids, my husband, my mom and dad, my grandma, my sister, and her boyfriend. 

We were all there celebrating this amazing achievement for my sister, not even suspecting that that night would change our lives for 

a very long time. 

My sister and I look back at that night and say, ‘‘What if our 

grandma or one of my daughters would have eaten that tart that 

we would have received? They probably would have died.’’ Knowing 

how sick we were scares the heck out of us now. 

The night after the college banquet, I started having severe abdominal cramping and overall not feeling well. My husband said, 

‘‘Sarah, go lay down. You are not feeling and looking so hot.’’ During the night, I woke up vomiting and had severe diarrhea so bad 

I was so beyond embarrassed to have to even ask my husband for 

help. My mom, who lives next-door, came over and took one look 

at me and knew something was terribly wrong. And if you know 

me, all I wanted to do was stay home and try and feel better. 

The next day, my mom took me to urgent care, where I was told 

they would give me a shot to help me stop throwing up. And if I 

was able to keep water down in 20 minutes, I could go home. Well, 

21 minutes later, I was being admitted into the hospital for what 

would turn out to be the first of two long stays. 

When I was admitted for the first time, I spent 12 hours in the 

ER, so sick they were scared to move me. They thought they were 

going to have to do emergency bowel surgery. Because the CT scan 

showed bowels that were so inflamed and so sick, I was put in ICU. 

I was so sick and so dehydrated and in so much pain I could not 

even see straight. 

While in ICU, I started to develop severe tachycardia and was 

moved to the critical care heart unit for 3 days. During that time, 

I had to go through things I never even want to talk about again. 

I was so mortified. 

When I was discharged, I was so excited. This meant I would be 

able to go to my daughter’s preschool graduation that night. This 

may seem like a very small thing to many of you, but it meant the 

world to me. And I thought, great, I can start the healing process 

and get back to being a mom, a wife, and a daughter. 

Boy, was I wrong. Approximately 21⁄2 weeks later, still sick as a 

dog, I called my doctor. And when I got to the office, he took one 

look at me and told me I was going back into the hospital. And if, 

for one moment, you can imagine two little girls’ faces when I had 

to tell them, ‘‘Mommy is going back into the hospital.’’ It was the 

hardest thing I ever had to do. It was devastating for any 7- or 4- 

year-old kid. 

When I was readmitted, I was so dehydrated they had to insert 

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traumatic. I was so scared. I was about to have a line inserted into 

my heart. 

I proceeded to spend 5 more days in the hospital, with my girls 

crying and screaming every time they had to leave me. I truly do 

not know what I would have done without my family and friends 

during this time. 

When I was released for the second time, I was sure I was on 

the mend. Wrong again. I developed a severe infection called ‘‘C. 

difficile colitis’’ from all the antibiotics and from being in the hospital. C. diff causes severe diarrhea and cramping, as though I 

didn’t have this already. I had to be on antibiotics every 6 hours 

for the next 14 daysagain. And all during this, I found out that the 

Salmonella was still present and raging in my body. This was just 

devastating news to my family and myself. 

I still have severe cramping, diarrhea, fevers, and the stress and 

fear that the Salmonella is present in my body. Every day, when 

I leave to go to work or even just to the grocery store, my youngest 

daughter looks at me and starts crying. It just breaks my heart. 

This whole time, I am trying to figure out what has caused my 

Salmonella poisoning. Then one morning, my dad is reading the 

newspaper, and there was an article about my sister Stacey and I, 

that we were part of the egg recall. 

As I start reading about the egg companies, it causes my stomach to turn. My family owns a retail butcher shop, Freedom Meat 

Lockers. And as we go through weekly State inspections and quarterly county inspections, we have to maintain and uphold a standard that we are very proud of. We are rated the number-one butcher shop in all of California for cleanliness and sanitation. To think 

that my sister and I got sick from a company that does not care 

about their regulations and quality is beyond appalling to me and 

my family. 

I do not come to you today just for me and my sister. I come for 

every man, woman, and child who has gotten sickened by Wright 

County Eggs and other producers who did not consider the repercussions of their actions. I wish I could say this would never happen again. Please consider changing your FDA policies to more 

closely monitor the egg industry. 

Thank you for your time in listening to my story. 

Sarah Lewis. 

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Testimony for the Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee of the 

Committee on Energy and Commerce 

United States House of Representatives 

Salmonella Outbreak 

September 22,2010 

Good Morning. Thank you Chairman Stupak, Ranking Member Burgess, Chairman 

Waxman, and Committee members. I am honored to be here today to speak to you 

about my experience with the Salmonella poisoning that I got from the recent 

Wright Co. and Hillandale Farms Egg Recall. 

My name is Sarah Lewis, I am 30 years old and I am a mom a wife and a proud 

Daughter of a small business owner that abides by all of our state and local 

regulations. I have two beautiful girls - Hailey 7 and Kyndall 4 - and I have 

wonderful husband who served our country proudly as a marine: Chris Lewis. 

Not only did this experience affect me - it has affected my whole family! My 

sister Stacey also got salmonella poisoning from the eggs. The night we ate 

the custard tart was at my sister's college graduation banquet. My whole 

family was there - my husband and kids, my mom and dad, my grandma, my aunt, 

my sister and her boyfriend. We were all there celebrating this amazing 

achievement for my sister, not even suspecting that that night would change 

our lives for a very long time! My sister and I look back at that night and 

say - what if our grandma or one of my daughters had eaten the tarts we 

received? They probably would have died. Knowing how sick we were scares 

the heck out of us now. 

The night after the college banquet I started to have very severe abdominal 

cramping and overall did not feel well. My husband said -Sarah just go lay 

down you don't look so good. During the night I woke vomiting and had 

diarrhea so bad I was beyond embarrassed to have to ask my husband for help. 

My morn who lives next door came over and took one look at me and knew 

something was terribly wrong. And if you knew me, you'd know that all I 

wanted to do was stay horne and just try to feel better. 

The next day my Morn took me tc urgent care where I was told that they would 

give me a shot to help me stop throwing up and if I was able to keep down 

water in 20 minutes, I could go home. Well, 21 minutes later I was being 

admitted into the hospital for what would turn out to be my first of two long 

hospital stays. When I was admitted the 1st time I spent almost 12 hours in 

the ER because I was so sick they did not want to mOve me. They thought I 

was going to need emergency bowel surgery because the CT scan showed bowels 

that were so inflamed and sick! I was put in lCU. I was so sick and 

dehydrated and in so much pain I could not see straight. While in lCU I 

started to have severe tachycardia and was then moved to a critical care 

Heart Unit for 3 days. During this time I had to go though things I never 

want to talk about again I was so mortified! 

When I was discharged I was so excited. This also meant I would be able to go 

to my daughters' preschool graduation that night. That may seem like a very 

small thing but to me it meant the world. I thought great I can start the 

healing process and get back to being a mom a wife and a daughter. 

Boy was I wrong. Approximately 2 1/2 weeks later I was still sick as a dog. 

I called my doctor and when I got to his office he took one look at me and 
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said you have to go back to the hospital. If you can for one moment imagine 2 

little girls' faces when I had to tell them mommy was going back into the 

hospital! It was the hardest thing I think I have ever had to do, they were 

devastated as any 7 and 4 year olds would be. 

When I got readmitted I was so dehydrated I had to get a pice line inserted 

into my arterial vein in my right bicep - talk about traumatic. I was so 

scared that I was about to have a line inserted into my heart! I proceeded to 

spend 5 more days in the hospital with my girls crying and screaming every 

time they had to leave me! I truly do not know what I would have done 

without my family and friends during this time, without them I do not think 

could have gotten though this. When I got released for the 2nd time I was 

sure I was on the mend. 

Wrong again. I developed a severe infection that they call C. difficile Colitis 

from all the antibiotics and from being in the hospital. C. diff causes 

severe diarrhea and cramping - as though I did not already have that. I had 

to be on antibiotics every 6 hours for 14 days again! And during all this I 

found out that my salmonella poisoning was still present and raging. This was 

just devastating to my family and me. 

I still have severe cramping diarrhea, fevers, and also the stress and fear 

that my salmonella is still in my body. Every day when I have to leave for 

work or go to simply the grocery store my youngest daughter still cries 

thinking Mommy has to go back to the hospital and it just breaks my heart. 

Throughout this whole time I was still trying to figure what has caused my 

Salmonella poisoning then one morning my dad was reading the newspaper and he 

saw an article about how my sister Stacey and I were part of the egg recall. 

As start reading about the egg companies that caused this my stomach turned. 

My family owns a retail butcher shop - freedom meat lockers - and we have 

to go through weekly state inspections and quarterly country inspections. We 

have to maintain and uphold a certain standard, and we are rated the #1 

butcher shop in California for cleanliness and sanitation. To think that my 

sister and I got sick from a company that does not care about their 

regulations and quality is appalling to my family and me! 

I come to you today for not just my sister and me, but for every man, woman, 

and child who has been sickened by eggs from Wright county egg farm and other 

producers who did not consider the repercussions of their actions. I wish I 

could say "this will never happen again", but that is up to you. Please 

consider changing your FDA polices to more closely monitor the egg industry. 

Thank you for you time and for listening for my story. 

Sarah Lewis 
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Mr. STUPAK. Thank you, Ms. Lewis. 

Ms. Lobato, your testimony, please. I am going to ask you to turn 

on that mike and pull it a little closer to your person there. 

TESTIMONY OF CAROL LOBATO 

Ms. LOBATO. Good morning, Chairman Waxman, Chairman Stupak, and the members of the committee. Thank you for inviting me 

to Washington to share my story. I hope that, by doing so, together 

we can make our dinner tables and our entire food system safer for 

all of us. 

My name is Carol Lobato. I live in Littleton, Colorado. I am 77 

years old and, today, have been married to my husband for 54 

years. We are retired and blessed with four children and grandchildren. Ed is a World War II veteran and was awarded the 

Bronze Star and Purple Heart for his services in Okinawa. 

My story began the evening of July 10th of this year, the night 

that Ed and I took our grandson, Drew, to The Fort Restaurant in 

Morrison, Colorado. The Fort is an upscale restaurant that serves 

wild game and other exotic dishes. The Fort was the restaurant 

that hosted President Clinton and the other world leaders for the 

Summit of the Eight dinner in 1997. 

One of the items that we ordered that night was an appetizer of 

rattlesnake cakes. All of us tasted the dish, and none of us particularly liked it. 

The next afternoon, I felt very sick. At the beginning, I started 

to shake and experience chills. Then came waves of vomiting and 

explosive diarrhea. My fever rose to 102. Later, the doctors called 

this septic shock. 

Ed rushed me to the emergency room. There, doctors administered several tests, including chest X-rays; CT scan; blood, stool, 

and urine samples. They gave me IV hydration and sent me home 

after several hours and told me to return if the symptoms did not 

improve. 

The next day, I went to see our family doctor, as I was experiencing diarrhea, stomach cramps, dizziness, and weakness. He examined me and sent me to Swedish Hospital in Englewood. 

The ride to the hospital was very unpleasant. I was quite sick. 

My electrodes were depleted. My potassium level was dangerously 

low. And the doctors at the hospital immediately put me on IVs of 

antibiotics, potassium, and I also was on oxygen. 

A few days later, the cultures come back as positive for Salmonella bacteria that was both in my bloodstream and my intestines. Since I take medication for rheumatoid arthritis, which compromises my immune system, I was particularly at risk for an infectious bacteria like Salmonella. 

The infection wiped me out, to the point where I was unable to 

function. I could not even get out of bed without help. I remained 

at the hospital for an agonizing 4 nights, 5 days before I was finally discharged to come home. 

The Salmonella infection is not over for me. I have lost my stamina. I often experience indigestion, and it is difficult for me to enjoy 

certain foods. I feel very tired and require rest during the day. I 

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deal. My doctors told me that I almost certainly would have died 

without aggressive intervention. 

Ed and Drew, our grandson, were also ill, but their condition was 

not as serious as mine. The CDC and the Jefferson County Department of Health later determined that the rattlesnake cakes that we 

consumed at The Fort was the source of our illness. Through a 

trace-back procedure, investigators found that the eggs used in the 

rattlesnake cakes had not been properly cooked. They were from 

the Wright County Egg farm in Iowa. The Salmonella found in my 

cultures was the exact DNA match to the Salmonella found in the 

egg farm. 

The CDC has recently published reports of at least 1,500 others 

in the country who have also suffered from the identical strain of 

Salmonella found in the contaminated eggs from Wright County 

Eggs and Hillandale Farms. 

The FDA has now inspected the farms and found several violations. The published inspection report shows the following: chicken 

manure piles 4 to 8 feet high in the henhouses; live wild birds, not 

chickens, flying around in the henhouses; rodent burrows along the 

baseboard of the henhouses; liquid manure seeping through the 

concrete foundation; standing water in the chicken manure pit; 

loose chickens walking through the manure piles and laying their 

eggs inside; 31 live mice observed in the henhouse; live and dead 

flies too numerous to count inside the henhouses; 65 unsealed rodent holes in the walls of the henhouse. 

These findings are shocking to me, not only as a consumer, but 

because I have personal experience with chickens and eggs. You 

see, I grew up on an Iowa farm. I was one of five girls, and I 

shared the responsibility for doing the work and the chores that 

went with the family farm. That included raising chickens from little chicks to the time they were ready for market, and for the eggs 

that we gathered and sold. 

Our farm never looked the way these two farms looked and have 

been described. We never had any problems because we kept our 

farm clean, took proper care of our chickens, and did things the 

correct way. 

Three years ago, this country suffered a horrible Salmonella outbreak linked to contaminated peanut butter that sickened over 700 

nationwide. Last year, this country was struck by another peanut 

butter Salmonella outbreak that sickened 700, killing 9, tragically. 

Both times, survivors like me come before this committee asking 

for help. 

But this time, I am the one asking for you, on behalf of myself 

and my family and 1,500 others who were sickened, to please make 

our food supply safer. Pass legislation that provides funding and 

more inspectors so that these companies keep us safe. Pass legislation that requires testing of products before they leave the factories. Pass legislation that rewards companies who do the right 

thing and punish those who refuse to do so. Because, if we don’t, 

we will all be here again. 

Thank you. Respectfully, Carol Lobato. 

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Testimony of Carol Lobato 

Before the Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee of the 

Committee on Energy and Commerce 

United States House of Representatives 

September 22, 2010 

Surviving Salmonella 

Good morning Chairman Waxman, Chairman Stupak, and members of the Committee. 

My name is Carol Lobato. I live in Littleton, Colorado. I am 77 years old and have been 

married to my husband Ed for 54 years. We are both retired and are blessed with four 

children and four grandchildren. 

Thank you for inviting me to come to Washington to share my story. I hope that by 

doing so, together we will make our dinner tables, and our entire food system, safer for 

all of us. 

My story began on the evening of July lOth, 2010, the night that Ed and I took our 

grandson Drew to dinner at The Fort Restaurant in Morrison, Colorado. The Fort is an 

upscale restaurant that serves wild game and other exotic dishes. The Fort hosted 

President Clinton and other world leaders at the Summit of the Eight dinner in the early 

1990's. 

One of the items we ordered that night was an appetizer of rattlesnake cakes. All of us 

tasted the dish, but I didn't particularly like it. 

The next afternoon, I began to feel very sick. At first, I began to shake and experience 

chills. Then came the waves of vomiting and explosive diarrhea. My fever rose to 102 

degrees. 

Ed rushed me to the emergency room. There doctors administered several tests, 

including chest X-rays, a CT scan, and blood, stool and urine samples. They gave me IV 

hydration and sent me home several hours later, with instructions to return if the 

symptoms did not improve. 

The next day, I went to see our family doctor. I was still experiencing diarrhea, stomach 

cramps, dizziness, and weakness. After reviewing my test results, the doctor informed 

me that I was experiencing a very serious condition called septic shock. He immediately 

admitted me to Swedish Hospital in Englewood. 

The ride to the hospital was very unpleasant. I felt very sick. My electrolytes were 

depleted, and my potassium level was dangerously low. At the hospital, doctors placed 
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me on potassium, oxygen, and IV antibiotics. A few days later, the culture results came 

back positive for Salmonella bacteria in my bloodstream and intestine. 

Since I take medication for rheumatoid arthritis, which'compromises my immune system, 

I am particularly at risk for infectious bacteria like Salmonella. The infection wiped me 

out to the point that I could not function on my own or even get to the bathroom 'by 

myself. 

I remained at the hospital for an agonizing four nights and five days, and was finally 

discharged home. 

The Salmonella infection is not over for me. I have lost my stamina. I often experience 

indigestion and it is difficult for me to enjoy certain foods. I feel tired and require rest 

during the day. I lost eight pounds while being in the hospital (the only plus during this 

ordeal). My doctors have told me that I almost certainly would have died without 

aggressive intervention. 

Ed and Drew were also ill, although their condition was not as serious as mine. 

The CDC and Jefferson County Department of Health later determined that the 

rattlesnake cakes we consumed at The Fort were the source of our illnesses. Through a 

trace-back procedure, investigators found that the eggs used in the rattlesnake cake recipe 

had been produced at the Wright County Egg farm in Iowa. The Salmonella Enteritidis 

found in my cultures was an exact DNA match to the Salmonella Enteritidis found at the 

egg farm. 

The CDC has recently published reports that at least 1500 others in our country have also 

suffered from an identical strain of Salmonella Enteritidis found in contaminated eggs 

produced by Wright County Egg and Hillandale Farms. The FDA has now inspected the 

farms and found several health violations. The published inspection reports show that 

inspectors found the following: 

• Chicken manure piles 4 to 8 feet high in the hen houses 

Live wild birds (non-chickens) flying around in the hen houses 

Rodent burrows along the baseboards of the hen houses 

Liquid manure seeping through the concrete foundation 

Standing water in the chicken manure pits 

• Loose chickens walking through manure piles to the egg laying areas 

31 live mice observed inside the hen houses 

"Live and dead flies too numerous to count" inside the hen houses 

65 unsealed rodent holes in the walls of the hen houses 

These findings are shocking to me, not only as a consumer but because I also have some 

personal experience with chickens and eggs. You see, I actually grew up on an Iowa 

farm. 
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As one of 5 girls, I shared responsibility for doing the work and chores that went with 

living on a family farm. That included raising chickens from little chicks until they were 

ready for market, and tending to hens kept for egg production. Our farm never looked the 

way these two egg farms have been described. We never had any problems on our farm 

because we kept things clean, took proper care of our chickens, and did things the right 

way. 

Three years ago, this country suffered a horrible salmonella outbreak linked to 

contaminated peanut butter that sickened over 700 people nationwide. Last year, our 

country was struck by another peanut butter salmonella outbreak that sickened another 

700 people, tragically killing 9. Both times, survivors like me came before this 

Committee asking for help. 

But this time I am the one asking you - on behalf of myself, my family and the 1500 

others who were sickened - please make our food system safer. Pass legislation that 

provides more funding and more inspectors to keep these companies from cutting comers 

on safety. Pass legislation that requires more testing of products before they leave the 

factories. Pass legislation that rewards companies that do things right, and punishes those 

who refuse. 

Because if you don't, we will be here again. 

Thank you. 

Respectfully, 

Carol Lobato 

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Mr. STUPAK. Thank you. 

And thank you both for your testimony. Thank you for coming 

here to Washington, D.C., traveling here with your families. And 

I deeply regret that you have suffered as part of this massive outbreak of Salmonella, but your testimony has really helped us, telling Members of Congress your story, but also the American people. 

And it will help us, and hopefully we can move the legislation that 

you heard so much about this morning—I should say, this afternoon. 

Let me ask you a couple questions, if I may. In the binder in 

front of you there, there is Tab No. 16. Mr. Waxman and I showed 

photographs that were taken by Federal public health officials in 

the course of their inspections of the egg facilities. And, Ms. 

Lobato, you sort of mentioned them in your testimony, as you have 

had some experience with farms and that. 

When you look at these photos, what goes through your mind 

about the conditions of these farms, Ms. Lobato? 

Ms. LOBATO. It is just a deplorable situation here. Filth. 

Mr. STUPAK. You know, Ms. Lobato, you said in your testimony— 

you said, maybe we should consider rewarding companies for doing 

things right so we don’t have these food outbreaks. Isn’t the fact 

that a consumer would put confidence in, let’s say, a Wright Farm 

or Hillandale Farm, isn’t that enough reward? We shouldn’t have 

to reward people to produce, in this case, eggs in a proper, sanitary, safe condition, should we? 

Ms. LOBATO. They should be safe. They should all be safe—— 

Mr. STUPAK. And without reward. OK. 

Ms. LOBATO [continuing]. Coming from the farm. 

Mr. STUPAK. OK. 

Ms. Lewis, anything you want to add on the photographs or anything? 

Ms. LEWIS. It is appalling to me. My family owns a retail shop, 

and when I show pictures to people of our facility, they are amazed 

at how clean it is and how we give tours of the whole place. And 

we are not afraid to show people around. We don’t have anything 

that is appalling as this. And—— 

Mr. STUPAK. In your butcher shop, do you have a plan to take 

care of pests and rodents and flies? 

Ms. LEWIS. Absolutely. We have strict regulations and guidelines 

that we have to abide by, and we have weekly maintenance services that come out and tend to that. So it has never been a problem. We have never had an infestation of any kind in our facility. 

And my father Howard has owned it since 1970, and he took it over 

from his dad, and my dad and my mom have always upheld the 

standards that we are proud of. And like I said, we give customers 

tours. We will show them our facility. We are not afraid to show 

what we do to everybody who wants to see it. 

Mr. STUPAK. Do you find the inspections at your level in your 

butcher shop overburdensome? 

Ms. LEWIS. No. 

Mr. STUPAK. Too much regulation? 

Ms. LEWIS. We are State and we are quarterly county inspected, 

and we don’t worry about it. They come in, and the last thing was 

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that when they come in, they say it is honestly a pleasure to come 

into our facility, and they actually want people to come to our plant 

and view our plant and how my dad has everything tiled, stainless 

steel, and he has everything to a certain standard. 

Mr. STUPAK. So in areas like food safety, government regulation 

in your estimation as owning a butcher shop is good? 

Ms. LEWIS. Repeat the question. Sorry? 

Mr. STUPAK. Sure. Government regulation. We hear so much government shouldn’t be in our lives, get them out of there. We don’t 

need government regulations. In your own personal experience, has 

it been helpful to you in your business? 

Ms. LEWIS. Absolutely. I feel as though if we did not have regulations on our facility, there’s other butcher shops, and if they didn’t 

uphold to a certain standard, then the product that is out there is 

not going to be of a certain level. And if it is not, then this is what’s 

going to happen, and this is not acceptable. 

Mr. STUPAK. In all of our hearings we’ve had, we always hear it 

is young people, older citizens, or people with a compromised immune system who are susceptible to food, whether it is E. coli or 

Salmonella or Listeria. You don’t seem to fit any one of those categories. 

Ms. LEWIS. I actually do have a compromised immune system. I 

have asthma, and I have been on steroids on and off for a long period of time due to my asthma and my lungs. And so they figured 

that, due to my compromised immune system, that is why it hit me 

so hard. And I actually had heart surgery when I was 18, so I have 

a long history of health trouble. And so when this came into my 

system, it just overpowered my whole system, and it took over. And 

I am still not feeling well. And to think that anybody has to go 

through this is sickening. 

Mr. STUPAK. Are you off your medication now? 

Ms. LEWIS. No. I laugh. No offense. I have a little old lady box 

of medicine that I take every day. And I—you know, I don’t have 

a choice. I am on 5 to 10 different medications. And I have lost 30 

pounds. And my sick joke is, OK, you can cure my Salmonella in 

30 more pounds. You know what I mean? But it’s not funny, and 

I don’t want to be on all these medications to keep my immune system up. It is not acceptable for supposedly someone who is young 

and 30 and healthy. It is not OK. 

Mr. STUPAK. Ms. Lobato, you have completely recovered now 

from your experience? 

Ms. LOBATO. I can’t say that, no. There are a lot of things I can’t 

eat that just are really hard to digest and give you a lot of heartburn and upset stomach and so forth. 

Mr. STUPAK. Well, we are glad you are still here, glad you had 

your 54th wedding anniversary, and you are celebrating it with us. 

And, Ed, thank you for your service to our country. 

With that, let me yield to Mr. Burgess for questions. 

Mr. BURGESS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

And thanks to both of you for sharing what are very compelling 

stories with us. 

I don’t know if you heard, in my opening statement I referenced 

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ously, to me at least, I, too, spent time on a farm as a youngster, 

and my family was involved with—in the meat business on my 

mother’s side. I would think that is an outlier. We will get a chance 

to ask the egg manufacturers directly. 

But when you look at the oversight, Ms. Lewis, you’ve suggested 

that there are several places that regulate you. But you said those 

are State and county? So no USDA, no FDA coming into your shop. 

Ms. LEWIS. We are not a federally regulated plant. We are a 

State-regulated plant, And so the meat that does come in to us is 

USDA inspected. Absolutely. 

Mr. BURGESS. But just the notion that you would have that many 

positive tests and no surveillance by the Federal agency responsible 

for ascertaining egg safety, I mean, that seems a little bit large; 

does it not? 

Ms. LEWIS. Absolutely. If there is supposed to be a Federal agent 

on premises at all times, that is his job as well as the owners’ to 

make sure and to uphold those standards. And he is supposed to 

be walking around and checking everything, and that is why he’s 

there. That’s why they are a Federal regulated plant. There’s reasons why you have a Federal agent in your building mandating it. 

There is reasons, and obviously those reasons were not met. 

Mr. BURGESS. Ms. Lobato, your experience with the egg business, 

when you had opportunities to observe it up close and personal, 

you never saw anything like these astonishing photographs that 

were shared with us this morning? 

Ms. LOBATO. Not at all. 

Mr. BURGESS. And that is sort of my recollection as well, although I will confess to you I’ve never spent time on a commercial 

farm, so I don’t know the context in which to place these photographs. 

Ms. LOBATO. Our chickens would be what would be called free 

range now. They walked everywhere. They were all over. 

Mr. BURGESS. And I promise you, I am only buying cage-free, 

free-range eggs from this point on after seeing those photographs. 

They are fairly dramatic. 

Now, Ms. Lewis, you said you became sick the early part of July. 

The recall started August 13th. Do I have the time frame correct 

there? 

Ms. LEWIS. The banquet was Saturday, May 29th, to my knowledge. 

Mr. BURGESS. You were ill in May. 

Ms. LEWIS. Yes. 

Mr. BURGESS. And then, Ms. Lobato, your exposure was later? 

Ms. LOBATO. July 10th. 

Mr. BURGESS. Unfortunately, when you look at some of these 

things in the recalls, we did tomatoes a couple years ago also with 

Salmonella, it does take time. To either of you, does that seem unreasonable; that time span from May 27th to August 13th or July 

2nd to August 13th, when the recall was effected, does that seem 

like an unreasonable period of time? A tough question to ask because you both suffered with the consequences. 

Ms. LEWIS. Well, from my point of view, when you are eating a 

dinner at a banquet, you have 10 different things on your plate 

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you as well have several different things. So you have to try and 

figure out if it came from what’s on your dinner plate, your salad 

plate, your appetizer. So, yes, I do think that it would take time 

to try and pinpoint where it came from. 

Mr. BURGESS. When were you questioned in the sequence of this 

about the source of your illness? Or did it just come up from the 

DNA testing? 

Ms. LEWIS. It came up from the DNA testing, and I read a newspaper article, and then I called—— 

Mr. BURGESS. So you sought them out rather than them? 

Ms. LEWIS. Yes, I did. I had to call the county nurse and be like: 

Is this me in the newspaper article and my sister? Is this? You 

know, am I that person? And she is like, umm. And I said, am I? 

And she said, yes. And that is how I found out. I had to seek out 

the information. 

Mr. BURGESS. Well, I want to thank both of you for being with 

us. And, Ms. Lewis, I will just tell you from the perspective of a 

former practicing physician, the clostridium gastrocele complication 

which you suffered, one of the most fearsome things that you can 

undergo as a consequence of antibiotic therapy, I certainly had patients with that during my professional lifetime, and it is in and 

of itself an ordeal and a memorable one. 

Mr. Chairman, just before I yield back—and, again, thanks to 

our witnesses. Before I yield back the balance of my time, I do 

want to read Dr. Coburn’s statement. 

If Majority Leader Reid believes—— 

Mr. STUPAK. Mr. Burgess, we have had objections. 

Mr. BURGESS. I still control the time, Mr. Chairman. 

Mr. STUPAK. Mr. Burgess, you have been directed that the statement would not—— 

Mr. BURGESS. If Majority Leader Reid believes that this legislation is a matter of life and death, he should bring it to the floor 

immediately for a full and open debate. As majority leader, he sets 

the schedule. I do not—Mr. Chairman, I just have to say, I do not 

recall—this is a bipartisan issue. I voted with you on the dang bill. 

I worked with you on the dang bill. Now, it is just preposterous 

that you have conducted or that the majority has conducted the 

hearing in this fashion. We have to sit here and listen to a Member 

of the Senate be excoriated by Members of your side when he is 

not the problem. Yes, he may become a problem if Senator Reid 

brings it to the floor, but if Senator Reid won’t bring it to the floor, 

he is not the problem. So, again, I just do not understand why you 

would turn what is a bipartisan effort into such a partisan, excoriated affair. 

Mr. STUPAK. Mr. Burgess, legislation came out of this committee 

because of the work of many people on this committee, the full 

committee, Democrats and Republicans, as bipartisan. And we 

passed that bill July of 2009, after 3 years of work by this committee. And, yes, we are a little frustrated that the Senate, one 

person, can put a hold on a bill. 

Mr. BURGESS. That is Senator Reid. Senator Reid, the majority. 

Mr. STUPAK. One person can put a hold on a bill, and the legislation does not move. So if you have a beef, take it up with Senator 

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With that let me turn it to Mr. Braley for questions, please. 

Mr. BRALEY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

And, Ms. Lobato, I am very pleased to hear that you had a lovely 

childhood growing up in Iowa. Did any of the comments I made in 

my opening statement ring true with you? 

Ms. LOBATO. Absolutely. 

Mr. BRALEY. Now, one of the things that struck me about both 

of your testimony was that neither one of you prepared the food 

that made you sick, and that illustrates one of the challenges we 

have been trying to face on this committee, which is we have a 

hodgepodge of State and Federal food safety regulations that impose different requirements on different egg producers depending 

upon where their facilities are located. We are making some strides 

based upon the recent regulation that the FDA passed regulating 

egg-production facilities. But both of you are the living examples of 

how consumers are at risk, through no fault of their own, because 

of cooking techniques that they have no control over. 

Now, one of the things I want to talk to you about is the mandatory recall authority, because, as you heard, our committee began 

pushing for reform of the food safety system for years and, as you 

heard, this is the 13th hearing this subcommittee has conducted on 

food safety in the last 4 years. Our committee authored and successfully passed H.R. 2749, the Food Safety Enhancement Act, and 

included in that legislation is a provision that would give the FDA 

much-needed increased authority to issue mandatory recalls of 

tainted food products. And I am going to ask both of you, would it 

surprise you to learn that the FDA currently lacks the authority 

to issue a mandatory recall? 

Ms. LOBATO. That is surprising. 

Mr. BRALEY. And while the two Iowa farms in question did issue 

voluntary recalls, do you two believe that FDA should have to rely 

upon the company’s goodwill to do that when the public’s health is 

at risk? 

Ms. LEWIS. No. 

Ms. LOBATO. No. 

Mr. BRALEY. Now, one of the things that we know is that the legislation, like the House bill that we have been talking about, would 

give the Food and Drug Administration the power to require the 

recall of a contaminated food that is needed. Do you think that 

would be a good idea for food safety for the consumers in this country? 

Ms. LOBATO. It is a start. 

Mr. BRALEY. Now, Ms. Lewis, you spent a lot of time talking 

about the incredible impact that your illness from the Salmonella 

contamination had on your quality of life. 

Ms. LEWIS. Absolutely. 

Mr. BRALEY. And I think there is this great misperception in the 

public that these symptoms that people deal with from Salmonella 

contamination are like a minor case of intestinal flu. 

Ms. LEWIS. No. It was so severe, I didn’t even want to leave my 

house. I didn’t even want to go to work, and I work right across 

the street. I didn’t want to take my kids to school. To be blunt, you 

don’t even want to sneeze or cough. It is miserable. Life as you 

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Mr. BRALEY. And you don’t even want to move. 

Ms. LEWIS. Oh, you can’t move because you are in such physical 

pain from the stomach cramps, and you have like—your whole body 

head to toe was in agony. I was in fetal position for I don’t even 

know how long. I couldn’t even move. 

Mr. BRALEY. You also talked about the need to insert something 

called a PICC line into your bicep. Can you just tell us a little bit 

more about what that was and what it was designed to do? 

Ms. LEWIS. Yes, absolutely. I was so dehydrated that they could 

not find a vein to insert an IV in, and they needed to get antibiotics, steroids, and fluids into me as quickly as they could. And 

my doctor suggested a PICC line, and it goes right here in your 

arm. And once it goes in, they do an X-ray to make sure that the 

line is properly inserted into your heart. And, to my knowledge, 

once it goes in, it’s a pretty permanent port, and I have scars from 

it, and I will always have those scars. But it was something that 

I had to do; otherwise, I would not be able to have the medication 

I needed. 

Mr. BRALEY. And, Ms. Lobato, I am giving you the chance to 

make the same type of comment. What was this like for you on a 

daily basis to deal with the symptoms from your Salmonella contamination? 

Ms. LOBATO. Well, you are just so severely sick. And, as Sarah 

said, you really can’t go very far from the bathroom. And you are 

just sick. You are so tired, you are so fatigued, worn out. You just— 

you see the bed, and you just want to flop in it. And another end 

result is that you really—you have a hard time trusting food. 

Mr. BRALEY. Let’s talk about that briefly. Do you remember ever 

having a duck egg, Ms. Lobato? 

Ms. LOBATO. No. I don’t think so. 

Mr. BRALEY. That is what is amazing is that in the 1920s and 

’30s, duck eggs were more popular for consumers than chicken 

eggs, and it was a result of a Salmonella problem with those eggs 

that they basically disappeared from the American table. And, as 

a result of those problems, there were many food safety bills that 

were passed to address the problem and try to protect consumers. 

We need to bring that same level of focus in 2010 and protect 

consumers from these food-borne illnesses. And thank you both for 

your testimony. 

Ms. LEWIS. Thank you. 

Mr. STUPAK. Mr. Latta for your questions, please. 

Mr. LATTA. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

And, again, ladies, thank you very much for being with us today. 

And having been one that has had food poisoning twice, you know, 

a lot of us go to a lot of events, and you eat what they put out in 

front of you. And I can commiserate with you on what happened 

to you, because I know for 2 to 3 days, my case, I know I was down. 

And you are absolutely right, you don’t want to get too far from 

home. So I can really empathize with you on that. 

Ms. Lobato, your background sounds like my mother’s. She grew 

up on a 100-acre farm in Ohio, and they had cows and some pigs 

and chickens, and my mom to this day still likes brown eggs the 

best. But it is one of those things that our agriculture has kind of 

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But I have got to ask this question of both of you, because in 

reading your testimony and hearing you talk about and as has 

been brought up about that you didn’t prepare the food, I have got 

to ask you this: What is rattlesnake cake, and how is that prepared? Is it raw? Is it baked? Fried? How is that prepared? 

Ms. LOBATO. Well, this is kind of a bit of an exotic restaurant, 

but it is built like a fort, and they specialize in meats of, well, supposedly the 1800s, early 1900s. And they have elk and buffalo and 

bison and all kinds of things. But one of the appetizers is rattlesnake cake, and it comes like a little crab cake, small, and they apparently boil the rattlesnake for 6 hours or something, then they 

grind it up, and it’s with bread crumbs and eggs and spices to hold 

it all together, and it comes in a little plate as an appetizer and 

had some green sauce on the top of it, relish, garnish. And I understand that that’s where the raw egg was or the uncooked egg was 

in the relish that was on the top. 

Mr. LATTA. So it wasn’t in the breading that was holding the 

whole thing together? 

Ms. LOBATO. I don’t believe so. I am not sure that that’s been determined at this point. 

But I just wanted to say, our farm was not a chicken farm per 

se. We had all kinds of animals, pigs and chickens and—— 

Mr. LATTA. It does sound like where my mom grew up. 

And, Ms. Lewis, with a custard tart, is that—my wife is not here 

to help me out with these things. Is that something that is baked, 

or is that raw? Is there something raw in there? How is that prepared? Do you know? 

Ms. LEWIS. From what I was told, it’s like a cheesecake base. 

And the bakery that made it, they always use a pasturized egg solution, and that day they happened to run out of that and started 

using whole eggs. And so that’s where the Salmonella came from 

was the whole eggs. So but, to my knowledge, it is like a baked 

kind of dessert, and then—to a certain point, so it still stays like 

a custard. 

Mr. LATTA. Well, thank you very much. 

And, Mr. Chairman, I yield back. 

Mr. STUPAK. Thank you, Mr. Latta. 

Ms. DeGette for questions, please. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. 

Mr. Latta, this restaurant, The Fort, is actually a fort that’s been 

around for many, many years. And as Ms. Lobato pointed out, this 

was a restaurant where they even had a big event when the G– 

8 came to Denver some years ago. And so what I think Ms. Lobato 

is trying to say is this kind of contamination can happen anywhere, 

even at the very nicest restaurants or just little places, and that’s 

what concerns all of us. 

I want to ask both of you. Ms. Lobato, the food you ate was in, 

I think, July 11th, around the first part of July, correct? 

Ms. LOBATO. July 10th. 

Ms. DEGETTE. And, Ms. Lewis, the food that you ate was at the 

end of May; is that correct? 

Ms. LEWIS. That is correct. 

Ms. DEGETTE. So that was maybe 6 weeks apart between the two 

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course, the recall didn’t happen until late August. So do you think 

that’s an unreasonable amount of time to identify the source of the 

contamination and to get these products off the shelves? 

Ms. LEWIS. Well, you know, it’s funny, my sister Stacey and I 

were the number one and number two case in Salmonella in all of 

California. And so for her and I to be the first and second, you 

know, to me it seems like a long time. But to the person who is 

number 500, it happened maybe a couple weeks later when they 

found out, you know. So being the first and second person, of 

course it is going to seem like a longer period of time than it would 

to somebody who got sick later. 

Ms. DEGETTE. But what I am saying is what you described was 

the bakery that made those tarts had used a different kind of egg 

solution that day. So, theoretically, someone would—it wouldn’t 

have been that hard to figure out that that was different, and then 

to look where those eggs came back—came from and trace it back 

to the farm in Iowa, right? 

Ms. LEWIS. True. But like I said before, there is also 10 things 

in my plate for dinner. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Sure. 

Ms. LEWIS. There’s 10 things on my plate for salad. There’s an 

appetizer. So, in fact, did it come from X, Y, or Z? It’s hard to tell 

at that time until you start actually pulling out everything and researching it. So as they start researching it, then I do feel, you 

know what I mean, it was done appropriately. But you can’t tell 

if it is this or this because there’s so many different components 

to what you receive at a banquet. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Well, would you be surprised to know we actually 

can tell if it is this or this? And if you have a traceability system, 

you actually can trace it? I mean, part of the problem we have now 

is that the Food and Drug Administration, as you told Mr. Braley, 

they don’t have mandatory recall authority, and we don’t have 

traceability, so it is harder to figure out where the components 

come from. But technologically we have the ability throughout our 

food industry to be able to trace where things came from. So if they 

had taken all of the components on your plate and they had been 

able to trace them back, it would have moved much more quickly. 

Does that make sense to you? 

Ms. LEWIS. That seems appropriate, yes. 

Ms. DEGETTE. And did anybody else from that graduation party 

get sick besides you and your sister? 

Ms. LEWIS. There was, to my knowledge, another gentleman that 

got sick as well. We were at the graduation banquet, and then the 

next night was a prom, and people from that prom—— 

Ms. DEGETTE. Also? 

Ms. LEWIS. Yes. I believe so. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Also got sick. 

So, you know, you had a group of people that got sick. We saw 

this with some of the other outbreaks as well, the peanut butter 

and other ones, where lots of people were getting sick. And when 

you see a big group like that getting sick, it’s something that the 

State health officials really pay attention to. 

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Ms. LOBATO. Well, I just wanted to say that the Department of 

Health for Jefferson County and for Denver were on my case while 

I was in the hospital. They called 3 days in and wanted to know 

what I had eaten at the restaurant, what I had eaten for the week 

before. So I was very impressed at how fast they were on the situation. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Right. You know what we’ve been finding the last 

few years with these food-borne illness outbreaks, oftentimes it’s 

the public health officials who identify it. They are the first ones. 

But because we don’t have a modern food safety and tracing system, it takes many weeks to then track down where that came 

from. So if you had the components of our legislation that we 

passed in it by—sometimes you hear us sniping up here, but we 

actually passed this bill in a bipartisan way through the House. 

And if you had that in place, once those State officials identified 

what it was, it would be a lot easier then to trace it back to a 

source, and it would eliminate many new cases of illness because 

you could get the recall going much more quickly. 

Thank you. Thank you both for coming again. 

Mr. STUPAK. Mr. Doyle for questions, please. 

Mr. DOYLE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

Ms. Lewis, thank you for your testimony. 

And, Ms. Lobato, happy anniversary, and thank you. 

You know, I appreciate the fact that you come here today because it is important we put a face on these problems. The chairman said earlier, people talk all the time about all this government 

regulation and let’s get the government off our backs and no more 

regulation. Like we sit here every day thinking of ways to harass 

businesses and make them lose money and go out of business. But 

the reality is the fact that most Americans can take for granted 

that when they turn their water spigot on, the water they drink 

isn’t going to poison them, or the food they eat is going to be safe, 

or the air they breathe in their neighborhood isn’t going to cause 

them grave harm, a lot of it is due to the fact that things like this 

happen. And one of the ways we address that is to come up with 

regulations to make sure that when food is being produced, it is 

done in a certain way. There’s standards in place. The same with 

how our water is treated and what you can put in the water and 

what you can put into the air. 

And sometimes you can have the best regulations in the world; 

and if you don’t have it enforced, if there is not proper oversight, 

even good regulations fall short. We saw that in the Gulf of Mexico 

not too long ago with the terrible oil spill. 

So I hope Americans see this today, they see two people, and 

they look at both of you and hear your stories and say, that could 

be my grandmother, that could be my mom, that could be my sister, and people realize there is a reason for this; and that, yes, we 

do need good regulations, and we need good oversight. And when 

everybody does things the way they are supposed to do it, people 

can make money, and businesses can thrive, and we can all feel 

good about the fact that what’s put on our tables or when we go 

to a restaurant, that something terrible isn’t going to happen to us 

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And that is really the purpose of the hearing today is to get to 

the bottom of these things. And I think more than anything we will 

hear today, it will be your personal stories, I think, that will touch 

many of the people in the U.S. Senate and whoever has got that 

hold over there. 

You know, on the Senate side, it’s a strange institution. One of 

these guys can hold up legislation no matter what it is. I had a bill 

that passed here this year that a Senator had a hold on, so I went 

over and talked to him, and he lifted his hold; and then another 

Senator put a hold on the bill, so I went over and talked to that 

Senator, and he lifted his hold. Then I was told there was a secret 

hold on the bill, and now we don’t know which Senator has a hold 

on it. So it is a strange institution over there, and sometimes it 

takes stories like this to move them to action. 

So thank you for coming today and helping us out and helping 

your fellow citizens in America have safe food to eat. Thank you. 

Mr. Chairman, I’ll yield back. 

Mr. STUPAK. Thank you, Mr. Doyle. 

Seeing no further Members ask question, I want to thank you 

again for coming and for helping us out. And I know you came here 

on your own free will and with your own experience, and so we appreciate it. And so on behalf of Congress and the American people, 

thank you for being here. 

Mr. BURGESS. Mr. Chairman. 

Mr. STUPAK. Mr. Burgess. 

Mr. BURGESS. I wonder if I might be recognized for the purpose 

of entering into a colloquy with the chairman. 

Mr. STUPAK. Sure. Go ahead. 

Mr. BURGESS. Mr. Chairman, is it not true that under committee 

rule 3, subsection D, under Questioning, the right to interrogate a 

witness before the committee or any of its subcommittees alternates between the majority and minority, Members. Each member 

shall be entitled to 5 minutes in interrogation of the witnesses. 

Is that your understanding of the rule? 

Mr. STUPAK. To question witnesses, that is correct. 

Mr. BURGESS. Five minutes of time was to be controlled by the 

ranking member of the committee, and 30 seconds of that time 

were taken from me. Could I ask the chairman’s indulgence to restore that time on the next panel of witnesses? 

Mr. STUPAK. No, Mr. Burgess. You were instructed that there 

was—your unanimous consent was denied, and you tried to violate 

the wishes of this subcommittee by going backdoor. You said you 

were done with your questions. It is not unusual for Members to 

end less than 5 minutes, we yield back our time and move on. I 

asked you not to go on and read it. You insisted upon reading it. 

I let you read until your 5 minutes expired, and then I muted your 

mike. So you had your 5 minutes. You chose to use your last 30 

seconds or whatever to read a statement. So I am not going to give 

you more time with the next witnesses. 

Mr. BURGESS. Mr. Chairman, with all due respect, you muted my 

mike immediately upon my beginning to read the statement. And, 

further, in regards to that controlling of 5 minutes, as you know, 

it is a well-established pattern, especially in this committee, that 

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Sometimes they offer soliloquies that I think are entirely far afield 

from where we are, but I don’t object to them doing that. And certainly I don’t recall anyone ever being treated in the way of having 

their microphone silenced. I looked upon that as a period of censorship that you exercised, and I have got to tell you I feel very 

strongly about this, that I think that was wrong, and I think this 

committee needs to rectify it. 

Mr. STUPAK. The record is clear what happened. If we have to 

read it back later, we can. You had your 5 minutes. Even after the 

objections of this committee, you decided to go ahead and read a 

statement which you asked unanimous consent be submitted into 

the record. The Members on our side objected. You should not 

the—if you want to follow the rules of the House, you would not 

have tried to backdoor it by reading it in. I let you go—excuse me. 

Don’t interrupt me. I let you go until your 5 minutes was up. You 

had your full 5 minutes. And this has happened before. I have been 

here 18 years. In fact, even up here, though I could mute your mike 

because it says ‘‘private,’’ and it says ‘‘mute off.’’ This is not the 

first time it happened. It has happened many times. 

You have to go by the rules of this committee and by the ruling 

of the Chair. You cannot take and make your own rules as we go 

along. You are violating the wishes of the committee, you are violating the rules of this subcommittee, you are violating the proper 

decorum as the way we conduct hearings. My job, my responsibility 

is to move this hearing forward, conduct it in an fair and impartial 

manner. I did that. 

Mr. BURGESS. Mr. Chairman, I would submit that rule 3, subparagraph B was violated by the chair and not by the ranking 

member. 

Mr. STUPAK. We are not going to agree, so let’s move on. 

Mr. STUPAK. Let me call our next panel of witnesses. 

On our second panel we have Austin ‘‘Jack’’ DeCoster, owner of 

Wright Country Farm; Peter DeCoster, chief operating officer, 

Wright County Egg; Orland Bethel, president, Hillandale Farms of 

Iowa; Mr. Duane Mangskau, production manager, Hillandale 

Farms of Iowa. 

Just waiting for people to settle down here a little bit. 

It is the policy of this subcommittee to take all testimony under 

oath. Please be advised that you have the right under the rules of 

the House to be advised by counsel during your testimony. Do any 

of you gentlemen wish to be represented by counsel? 

Mr. DeCoster, you want to press that button? And I would ask 

you to give us the name of your counsel. 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. Jan Kramer. 

Mr. STUPAK. And during your testimony, before you answer a 

question, if you would like to consult with your counsel, you have 

a right to do so. 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. Thank you. 

Mr. STUPAK. Anyone else? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes. Mr. John Bodey. 

Mr. STUPAK. Mr. Bethel. 

Mr. BETHEL. Yes. Yes, I have counsel here. 

Mr. STUPAK. Would you state counsel’s name? 

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Mr. STUPAK. And, again, if you wish to consult with them during 

questions, you may, but questions have to come from you—or, the 

answers have to come from you. I’m sorry. 

And Mr. Mangskau? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. No. 

Mr. STUPAK. No counsel with you. OK. So we have that on the 

record. 

And, again, anytime during the questioning you wish to consult 

with your counsel, you may. 

So I am going to ask you to please rise, raise your right hand 

and take the oath. 

[Witnesses sworn.] 

Mr. STUPAK. Let the record reflect each witness answered in the 

affirmative. They are now under oath. 

We will now hear a 5-minute opening statement from our witnesses. You may submit a longer statement for inclusion in the 

hearing record. So Mr. DeCoster on my far left, Jack, if you want 

to start your opening statement, please do. Press the green light 

there on that microphone and pull it forward, and we can hear you. 

STATEMENTS OF AUSTIN DECOSTER, OWNER, WRIGHT COUNTY EGG; PETER DECOSTER, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, 

WRIGHT COUNTY EGG; ORLAND BETHEL, PRESIDENT, 

HILLANDALE FARMS OF IOWA; AND DUANE MANGSKAU, 

PRODUCTION MANAGER, HILLANDALE FARMS OF IOWA 

TESTIMONY OF AUSTIN DECOSTER 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. Commissioner, Mr. Chairman, and members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify. My 

name is Austin DeCoster. I go by ‘‘Jack.’’ My son Peter and I are 

here to answer your questions. 

[Disturbance in hearing room.] 

Mr. STUPAK. All right. We ask the room be cleared. 

I would ask that you suspend for a few minutes. I would ask that 

you would cease and desist, please, sir. The hearing must continue. 

We will resume these hearings. It is not unusual for us to have an 

few outbursts whether it’s on this side of the dais or the other side. 

Mr. DeCoster, go ahead, please. 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. We were horrified to learn that our eggs 

may have made people sick. We apologize to everyone who may 

have been sickened by eating our eggs. I have prayed several times 

each day for all of these people for improved health. 

For generations our family has been producing eggs, and I have 

spent my life as a chicken farmer. I have been blessed to be able 

to work with my sons on our farms as well. Over the years we have 

grown to be pretty big in producing eggs; unfortunately, we got big 

quite a while before we stopped acting like we were small. What 

I mean by that is we were big before we started adopting sophisticated procedures to be sure we met all of the government requirements. 

While we were big but still acting like we were small, we got into 

trouble with government requirements several times. I am sorry for 

those failings. I accept the responsibility for those mistakes in our 

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us, we would have to become very good at meeting all the government requirements, so for about 10 years now we have been focused on doing just that. 

We are moving forward. We have put in place effective employee 

training systems, additional monitoring and control procedures to 

assure compliance with government requirements. When necessary, 

we hire top experts to be sure the procedures are right. Also, in 

critical areas, including reduction of Salmonella Enteritidis, we 

have been going beyond government requirements in an effort to 

improve our operations with all these systems. We have made important strides, and I am proud of our work. Still, these challenges 

never stop. 

Mr. STUPAK. Does that complete your testimony? 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. Yes. That completes it. 

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Testimony of 

Austin DeCoster and Peter DeCoster 

before the 

Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations 

Committee on Energy and Commerce 

U.S. House of Representatives 

September 22, 2010 

Mr. Chairman and Members of the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to 

testify. My name is Austin DeCoster. I go by Jack. My son, Peter, and I are here to 

answer your questions. 

We were horrified to learn that our eggs may have made people sick. We 

apologize to everyone who may have been sickened by eating our eggs. I pray several 

times each day for all of them and for their improved health. 

For generations, our family has been producing eggs, and I have spent my life as a 

chicken farmer. I've been blessed to be able to work with my sons on our farms as well. 

Over the years, we have grown to be pretty big in producing eggs. Unfortunately, we got 

big quite a while before we stopped acting like we were small. What I mean by that is we 

were big before we started adopting sophisticated procedures to be sure we met all of the 

govemment requirements. While we were big, but still acting like we were small, we got 

into trouble with government requirements several times. I am sorry for those failings. I 

accept responsibility for those mistakes in our operations. 

Eventually, I realized that, to put those problems behind us, we would have to 

become very good at meeting all of the government requirements. So, for about 10 years 

now, we have been focused on doing just that, and we are moving forward. We have put 

in place effective employee training systems, additional monitoring, and control 

procedures to assure compliance with government requirements. When necessary, we 

hire top experts to be sure the procedures are right. Also, in critical areas, including 

reduction of Salmonella Enteritidis, we have been going beyond government 

requirements in an effort to improve our operations. With all of these systems, we have 

made important strides, and I am proud of our work. Still, these challenges never stop. 
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Mr. Chainnan, my name is Peter DeCoster. I am the Chief Operating Officer for 

Wright County Egg of Galt, Iowa. In other words, I run the Wright County Egg fanns. 

As my father said, we are terribly sorry that our eggs may have made people sick. 

My family regularly eats Wright County eggs. To the best of my knowledge, the families 

of all the Wright County Egg employees regularly eat Wright County eggs. As a father, 

as a food producer, and as the leader of Wright County Egg, only wholesome, safe eggs 

are acceptable. 

While we always believed we were doing the right thing, it is now very clear that 

we must do more. We cannot and will not provide eggs for our customers until we have 

every internal and external reassurance that those eggs are safe and free from disease. 

We have learned from this experience that there is much to be done on our fanns and in 

our on-fann protocols to restore confidence in our regulators and customers about our 

operations. 

WRIGHT COUNTY EGG OPERATIONS 

To assist the Committee's investigation, pennit me to begin with a short overview 

of Wright County Egg farming operations in Iowa. 

350 people are employed at our Iowa fanns. Wright County Egg pays taxes of 

nearly $1 million annually, and we proudly support community and charitable interests. 

Our employees are active, engaged citizens - which is a direct reflection of the values of 

our family and of our company. 

Wright County Egg began operations in the early 1990s. Today, we have five 

fanns that produce eggs. At those five fanns, there are a total of 73 hen laying bams, 

each about 33,000 square feet in size. Almost all of the bams are two-story structures, 

with the hens located in the upper part of the bam. In all, Wright County has 5.8 million 

egg-laying hens. Our farms produce approximately 2.3 million dozen eggs per week, or 

about 1.4 billion eggs per year. 

In addition, Wright County Egg operates the bams at the Hillandale's fann near 

Alden, Iowa. The Alden fann has 10 bams, with approximately one million laying hens, 

producing more than 435,000 dozen eggs per week. In some Wright County Egg 

documents, reference is made to farms or sites numbered 1 through 6. Fann 5 is the 

Alden, Iowa Hillandale fann. Each of those farms is at a different location. No two 

fanns are less than one mile from another. 

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For both Wright County and Hillandale's Alden farms, our operations also 

include separate pullet bams, which are omitted from these descriptions in our effort to 

make the presentation as relevant and clear as possible. 

In addition to our farms, at a separate location, Wright County Egg operates a 

feed mill, which receives poultry feed ingredients, such as corn, soybean meaI, calcium, 

and other needed ingredients we purchase from suppliers. At our mill, the feed is mixed 

to meet the nutritional needs of the birds it is intended for and shipped to those birds 

throughout the week. In May of this year, FDA inspected our feed mill. No deficiencies 

were cited. Also, we contracted for Evonik to conduct an externaI audit in March of this 

year. That was done as part of our review process to assure quality operations. The 

private audit found no major deficiencies, but made some recommendations, many of 

which already have been adopted. 

Each Wright County Egg farm includes a processing facility where our eggs are 

washed, sanitized, graded by USDA, and packed into cartons. 

Finally, Wright County Egg aIso operates an egg breaking facility, which is daily 

inspected daily by USDA's Food Safety and Inspection Service. In that facility, fresh 

eggs are broken to produce liquid egg products, which are then sent to outside facilities 

for pasteurization or for use in cooked products. 

SALMONELLA ENTERITIDIS (SE) 

Some background on Salmonella Enteritidis (SE) and how our egg farms are 

monitored for the bacteria may also be useful. 

Regrettably, SE is a fact of life in the egg industry. That is why all egg cartons 

bear safe food handling instructions and the FDA Model Code requires that eggs be 

thoroughly cooked. HistoricaIly, the concern was SE contamination from the surface of 

the egg, particularly through a hairline crack. We believe that improvements in egg 

safety practices help account for the decline in SE illnesses. In 2009, the rate of 

Salmonella infection was 11 percent lower than it was just a decade earlier. According to 

the Centers for Disease Control, the incidence of actuaI infection of Salmonella occurred 

in 15 of 100,000 people in 2009. 

However, addressing SE contamination that is internal to the egg has been a 

continuing challenge. The egg industry broadly has been working to control this problem 

and to find procedures that might enable us to eliminate the problem in the future. SE can 

exist inside a perfectly normal-appearing hen and the some of the eggs she produces. If 

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those eggs are eaten raw or undercooked, the bacterium can cause illness. SE may be 

found inside raw shell eggs, if ovaries of laying hens are infected with SE. Of course, 

that is what recently happened in our Wright County Egg flocks. 

Like everyone else who has been producing eggs for decades, we have fought SE 

for a long time, and we have not always been successful. Today, we have extensive SE 

reduction practices that were unknown in previous years. 

To protect against SE contamination, our farm follows stringent standards for egg 

production, processing and transportation to ensure both the quality and the safety of our 

eggs when they reach our customers. In addition to following food safety guidelines and 

the new FDA Egg Safety Rules, our farm also established in July of 2009 a voluntary, 

overall Salmonella Intervention and Risk Reduction Program, which sets specific 

protocols in the areas of: 

o Chicks and breeder flocks 

o Biosecurity 

o Cleaning and disinfection between flocks 

o Pest management 

o Vaccination 

o Refrigeration 

Further, Wright County Egg has been working with two top experts to enhance 

our bio-security and bird health needs. They provide outside counsel to design effective 

programs, monitor their performance and make operational refinements as necessary. 

• Dr. Maxcy Nolan III, a Ph.D. entomologist with 35 years in the field 

of agricultural entomology and a recognized authority in all phases of 

poultry pest management, has played a vital role in development and 

oversight of our pest control programs. We have tapped his particular 

expertise in the formulation, preparation and execution of site-specific 

pest and rodent control plans for egg-laying operations. 

• Of particular potential assistance to your investigation, Dr. Charles 

Hofacre has advised us on bird health matters, particularly including 

SE reduction activities. Dr. Hofacre is recognized as one of the 

world's leading authorities in SE control. Dr. Hofacre holds a 

doctorate in veterinary medicine, a Master's in avian medicine and a 

PhD in medical microbiology. He has served on two expert panels for 

the World Health Organization's Food and Agriculture Organization, 

one on antibiotic resistance and the other on control of salmonella and 

campylobacter in chickens. This year, Dr. Hofacre received the 

Poultry Science Association's annual award for his on farm food 

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safety work. While we are blessed to have the consulting advice of 

Dr. Hofacre, his full time job is as Professor and Director of Clinical 

Services at the Department of Population Health, College of 

Veterinary Medicine, University of Georgia. I appreciate his presence 

in the hearing room today. 

In 2004, our farms started conducting environmental Salmonella and SE testing in 

our pullet and layer barns. Over the last 2 years, our environmental testing has been 

conducted regularly. This involves pulling a gauze pad through each row of manure in 

layer bams and testing of fans, walkways, hallways, etc. in layer and pullet bams. Until 

July of this year, this environmental testing was not required. We conducted the testing 

to monitor and adjust operations, particularly including our vaccination program. 

To accomplish the exclusion of SE, the birds are vaccinated 4 times and also 

given a competitive exclusion product one time. Vaccinations for Salmonella work very 

similar to other vaccinations for disease in humans. Competitive exclusion is the feeding 

of other "good bacteria" such as those found in yogurt to compete with and replace 

Salmonella in the gut. 

Each pUllet is given 2 live Salmonella vaccines as a spray, the first at 3 days of 

age and then again at 4 weeks of age. The live vaccines given to the pullets provide 

protection for approximately 4 weeks after each dose and also help to give immunity in 

the intestines to prevent Salmonella from establishing itself in the intestines. 

The chicks also are given the competitive exclusion or pro biotic when they first 

get to the farm. Then at 10 weeks and again at 16 weeks, each hen is picked up and 

individually injected in their breast muscle with a killed vaccine of SE that has an oil 

adjuvant. This oil adjuvant will more strongly stimulate their immune response and also 

act as a slow release of the vaccine so their immune system will make even larger amount 

of antibodies for a longer period of time. Because it is injected, it stimulates the 

circulating immune response to put antibodies to SE into the blood stream. The hen then 

deposits these antibodies into the yolk. This is a natural process since the mother hen 

does not produce milk with antibodies like mammals; they put the protective antibodies 

for their chicks into the yolk. We use this natural process to protect against Salmonella 

that may get into the yolk to help protect the consumer. Every egg has antibodies to SE. 

It is accepted in the microbiology and veterinary communities that a positive bam 

test does not mean that eggs being produced in that bam have SE. A positive test from 

the environment is not the same as an egg positive test for~. SE can exist in an 

environment - and in fact does exist in many places in the environment at large - without 

ever getting into our food supply. 

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Under FDA's Egg Safety Rule that went into effect in July of this year, we follow 

any environmental SE positive with egg testing. In particular, that was done in July of 

this year shortly before our recall. The egg results were negative. Experts advise that 

egg testing is a poor indicator of the presence of SE. Our perception was that egg test 

results always would be negative. 

Our environmental testing for SE was undertaken at our own initiative to monitor 

for possible SE and to guide our operational activities. As expert advice indicated that 

egg testing was a poor indicator of the presence of SE, egg testing was not advised or 

perfonned as a follow-up to a positive environmental test. There was one occasion when 

we conducted follow-up egg testing, though it was not advised by our scientific expert. 

Of course, we initiated follow-up testing in July as required by FDA's new rule. Again, 

our environmental testing was used to infonn and guide our operations, particularly 

administration of SE vaccinations. Since 2004, we have taken over 3800 various 

environmental samples for Salmonella. 

We perfonned aggressive environmental testing for SE because we were striving 

to be alert to signs of SE. Then, we followed expert advice in taking substantial 

operational actions based on those test results. Any suggestion that we were ignoring SE 

is inconsistent with our aggressive voluntary environmental testing program and the 

substantial operational actions we took in response to positive environmental test results. 

So, we had an extensive SE reduction program designed to meet all regulatory 

requirements and go substantially beyond the requirements with additional measures, 

notably our SE vaccination program. 

RECALL AND FOOD SAFETY INVESTIGATION 

With all that being said, we were stunned to leam that our eggs appeared to be 

responsible for an SE disease outbreak. 

In early August, our farm was notified by the California Health Department that 

there was a possible traceback to our Iowa farms. The week of August 9, 2010, we 

received our first contact from FDA, indicating their participation in a traceback 

investigation that involved Wright County Egg. 

As the epidemiological investigation proceeded, FDA gathered additional 

infonnation and requested that Wright County Egg undertake a voluntary recall of our 

eggs. We promptly did so in cooperation with FDA. Our first recall was announced on 

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August 13, 2010, which involved three of our farms. Then, our second recall was 

announced on August 18, 2010 and addressed eggs from our other two farms. 

As FDA was beginning their review of our records and inspecting our farms, we 

undertook our own food safety investigation. Our farm voluntarily secured more 

extensive testing and review procedures of our own. We conducted 894 environmental 

tests, using both an accredited private lab and the testing lab at Iowa State University. 

We pulled 70,200 eggs for samples, representing each farm, and sent those for testing at 

an accredited private laboratory. When the results of those tests became available, they 

were immediately provided to FDA. These tests confirmed that Wright County Egg was 

producing eggs contaminated with SE. 

After initiation of our recall, a series of FDA inspections occurred, resulting in 

our farm being cited for several deficiencies. We take those deficiencies very seriously 

and our team has corrected all deficiencies identified, except for installation of new 

doors, which have been ordered, but have not yet arrived. The vast majority of those 

deficiencies were fixed as soon as they were identified. 

I also want to note FDA's August 26, 2010, announcement that they had a 

positive SE test result from a raw ingredient that we had used in our feed. While on our 

farm, FDA tested the meat and bone meal that had been provided by a third-party 

supplier as an ingredient for our feed. The ingredient, as all are, was in a separate 

overhead bin. It was tested by FDA officials prior to being mixed with other ingredients 

to produce our feed. We had actually stopped using this ingredient in our pullet feed in 

early July on the advice of Dr. Hofacre and also stopped its use in layer feed in August. 

At this time, we cannot be absolutely certain of the root cause of the 

contamination of eggs we produced. However, the Committee may want to know that we 

view the most likely root cause of contamination to be meat and bone meal that was an 

ingredient in our feed. 

At this point, I would appreciate projection of the first slide we provided the 

Committee. 

Meat and bone meal is produced at a rendering facility. Part of the production 

process in rendering involves cooking carcasses to a temperature that would eliminate 

SE. However, as always in food safety matters, there is potential for re-contamination, 

either at the rendering facility, in transportation from the rendering facility or, 

subsequently, after the meat and bone meal is delivered to Wright County Egg. In 

particular, contaminated meat and bone meal that entered our bin for that ingredient could 

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have contaminated the bin and the additional meat and bone meal that was subsequently 

added to the bin. 

Next slide please. 

Not only is this suspicion consistent with FDA test results, but it also is consistent 

with the fact that the only Hillandale Farms operation to produce eggs that tested positive 

for SE contamination was the Alden farm, which received its feed from Wright County 

Egg's feed mill. So, all of the flocks that have been proven to be a source of this SE 

outbreak received feed from Wright County Egg's feed mill. 

WRIGHT COUNTY EGG'S OPERATIONAL CHANGES 

To be sure that this never happens again, we have made sweeping biosecurity and 

food safety changes on our farms. These measures exceed requirements of FDA's Egg 

Safety Rule. To continue as a viable supplier in the shell egg market, we recognize that 

our actions must be comprehensive to regain confidence from the public and those who 

regulate our farms. 

Specific corrective measures we are putting in place address three critical areas: 

I) How we monitor and prevent SE in our flocks, 

2) How we prevent cross-contamination and maintain strict biosecurity between 

bams, and 

3) How we ensure that our feed and the ingredients that go into it are SE-free and 

of the highest quality. 

Each of these three programs is detailed in our farm's biosecurity plan that we 

have supplied to the Committee, but I will provide you with a short overview of the key 

changes we are making in these areas. 

In the future, Wright County Egg will only produce eggs from hens that have 

been vaccinated against SE. To achieve that goal, we have removed from production all 

flocks that have not been vaccinated since our voluntary vaccination program began in 

July 2009. We also are removing from production any flocks that have had an SE 

positive egg test. 

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Following the removal of these flocks, manure will be removed, bams will be 

dry-cleaned, and houses will be treated with liquid or fogged formaldehyde to disinfect 

the bams. We will conduct environmental tests for SE in those bams, according to FDA 

protocol, and we will ensure negative results before any new flocks are moved into the 

barns. 

We also will do environmental testing of chicks coming into pullet houses to 

ensure they are SE-free. Any positive flocks will be depopulated. 

Major changes are being made in the transitioning of pullet bams from one flock 

to the next. Each flock will have manure removed, so that bams can be dry-cleaned, 

disinfected over a three-day period, and then tested for environmental SE prior and 

confirmed negative before any new pullets are housed. 

The farm's outside entomologist will provide monthly inspections and written 

follow-up reports of the bams where our flocks are raised, effective October 1,2010. In 

addition, a licensed third-party pest control professional is being transitioned to cover all 

layer farms (already in place for two farms), which will follow FDA guidance for 

standardization of rodent indexing and include rodent indexing requirements to comply 

with the farms' SE prevention plan. Farms 3 and 4 are already completed; we plan for 

farms 1 and 2 to be completed by October 1,2010. 

We have addressed concerns about worker transitions between bams at all farms. 

Ensuring compliance with these new procedures will be included as part of the farms' 

overall biosecurity monitoring program, and workers will be trained on new procedures. 

Bam workers will change into new, clean protective gear (coveralls, boots, hats) at the 

entry to each bam. Foot baths, brushes and hand sanitizers for disinfection have been 

installed and must be used by all workers entering and leaving a bam. Any bam that tests 

positive for environmental SE in the future will be isolated from regular farm work. 

Feed mill changes are immediate and ongoing. As of August 15, 2010, meat and 

bone meal has been eliminated from our feed ingredients. The entire mill is being 

completely cleaned and disinfected. All dust is being blown and swept for removal. All 

ingredient and finished feed bins are being emptied, cleaned of any residual product and 

disinfected. 

We will hold our ingredient suppliers to new stringent standards of SE prevention. 

All ingredient suppliers are required to provide a Certificate of Analysis that each lot of 

ingredients supplied is SE-free. They also are required to conduct weekly sampling and 

SE testing and notify the feed mill immediately of any positive test results. 

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Wright County Egg will retain a sample of every incoming load of com, soybean 

meal, oyster shell and distillers grain. We will then make a composite sample from the 

retained samples of each ingredient weekly and submit the composite sample for SE 

testing. If a positive result is found in any ingredient, that supplier will be notified, and 

feed it was used in will be removed from farms bins, retained and feed tested for SE. 

Daily samples of ground com also will be taken. Samples of finished feed will be taken 

daily and retained for a period of 30 days. 

From the beginning to the end of the feed mill process, 10 dust samples will be 

taken monthly and submitted for SE testing. Should any of those samples test positive, 

the finished feed will be tested and additional swabs taken in the positive area. Testing 

also will be done upstream in the feed process to determine the source of SE introduction. 

Each day, feed mill personnel will inspect the lids on all feed bins to assure they 

are properly secured. Further, this issue will be expressly reviewed in weekly inspections 

by management personnel not assigned to the feed mill. 

Finally, for all of our operations monthly inspections will be performed, 

documented in writing and reviewed by the farms' management team (which includes me 

as COO, our director of operations, senior production manager, farm site production 

manager, and compliance manager) to ensure compliance with FDA's Egg Safety Rules. 

Of course, Wright County Egg will continue testing for SE consistent with FDA's Egg 

Safety Rule, as we have since the rule took effect. 

By focusing on our flocks, our feed and our worker biosecurity protocols we 

intend to demonstrate our commitment to the production of eggs that are high-quality and 

safe. 

Mr. Chairman and Members of the Committee, in what is a very challenging time, 

we have devoted ourselves to cooperating with your investigation while executing a large 

recall and assisting with FDA's food safety investigation. We look forward to answering 

your questions so an accurate understanding of what caused this food borne disease 

outbreak might be achieved. 

Thank you. 

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Mr. STUPAK. OK. 

TESTIMONY OF PETER DECOSTER 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Mr. Chairman, my name is Peter 

DeCoster. I am the chief operating officer for Wright County Egg 

of Galt, Iowa. In other words, I run the Wright County Egg Farms. 

Permit me to begin with a short overview of Wright County Egg 

farming operation in Iowa. 

Three hundred fifty people are employed at our Iowa farms. We 

have 5 farms with 73 hen-laying barns, each about 33,000 square 

feet in size. Almost all of the barns are a two-story structure with 

the hens located in the upper part of the barn. In all, Wright County has 5.8 million laying hens. Our farms produce approximately 

2.3 million dozen eggs per week, or about 1.4 billion eggs per year. 

In addition, Wright County Egg operates the barns at the 

Hillandale Farm near Alden, Iowa, with 10 barns and approximately 1 million laying hens, producing more than 435,000 dozen 

eggs per week. 

Each of the six farms we operate is at a different location. No 

two farms are less than 1 mile from another. In addition to our 

farms, at a separate location Wright County Egg operates a feed 

mill which produces our poultry feeds. It was inspected by Iowa 

with no major deficiencies found. The inspection report was transmitted to us by the FDA in May. 

Some background on the Salmonella Enteritidis and how our egg 

farms are monitored for the bacteria may also be useful. Regrettably, SE is a fact of life in the egg industry. That is why all egg 

cartons bear the ‘‘safe food handling’’ instructions and the FDA 

model code requirements that eggs be thoroughly cooked. 

Like everyone else who has been producing eggs for decades, we 

have fought SE for a long time, and we have not always been successful. Today we have extensive SE reduction practices that were 

unknown in previous years. To protect against SE contamination, 

our farm follows stringent standards for egg production, processing, 

and transportation to ensure both the quality and safety of our 

eggs when they reach our customers. 

In addition to the following food safety guidelines and the new 

FDA egg safety rules, our farm also established in July of 2009 a 

voluntary overall Salmonella intervention and risk reduction program which sets specific protocols in the areas of chicks and breeder flocks, biosecurity, cleaning and disinfecting between flocks, test 

management, vaccination, and refrigeration. Further, Wright County Eggs has been working with two top scientists to enhance our 

biosecurity and bird health needs. They provide outside counsel to 

decide effective programs, monitor their performance, and make 

operational requirements as necessary. 

Of particular potential assistance to your investigation, Dr. 

Charles Hofacre has advised us on bird health matters. Dr. Hofacre 

is recognized as one of the world’s leading authorities in SE control, and I appreciate his presence in the hearing room today. 

As a tool in our SE reduction program, Wright County Egg began 

SE vaccinations of our flocks. That vaccination program and the 

voluntary environmental testing program that guided it and other 

operational decisions is outlined in our written testimony. 


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So we have had extensive SE reduction programs designed to 

meet all regulatory requirements and go substantially beyond the 

requirement with additional measures, notably our SE vaccination 

program. So we were stunned to learn that our eggs appeared to 

be responsible for an SE disease outbreak. 

In mid-August, FDA requested that Wright County Egg undertake a voluntary recall of our eggs. We promptly did so in cooperation with FDA. Our first recall was announced on August 13, 2010, 

which involved three of our farms. Then our second recall was announced on August 18, 2010, and addressed eggs from the other 

two farms. An extensive food safety investigation followed. 

At this time we cannot be absolutely certain of the root cause of 

the contamination of the eggs we produced; however, we view that 

the most likely root cause of contamination to be the meat and 

bone meal that was an ingredient in our feed. 

At this point I would appreciate a projection of the first slide we 

provided to the committee. 

Meat and bone meal was produced at a rendering facility. Part 

of the production process in rendering includes cooking carcasses to 

a temperature that would eliminate SE. However, as always in 

food safety matters, there is the potential for recontamination either at the rendering facility and the transportation from the rendering facility, or subsequently after the meat and bone meal is delivered to Wright County Egg. In particular, contaminated meat 

and bone meal that entered our bin with the ingredient could have 

contaminated the bin and additional meat and bone meal that was 

subsequently added to the bin. 

Next slide. 

Not only is this suspicion consistent with the FDA test results, 

but it also is consistent with the fact that the only Hillandale 

Farms operation to produce eggs that tested positive for the SE 

contamination was the Alden farm, which received its feed from 

the Wright County Egg’s feed mill. So all of the flocks that have 

been proven to be the source of this SE outbreak received feed from 

the Wright County Egg’s feed mill. 

My written testimony outlines the exhaustive operational 

changes that Wright County has undertaken to take every precaution against this ever happening again. By focusing on our 

flocks, our feed, and our worker biosecurity protocols, we intend to 

demonstrate our commitment to the production of eggs that are of 

high quality and safe. 

We look forward to answering your questions so an accurate understanding of what caused this food-borne disease outbreak might 

be achieved. Thank you. 

Mr. STUPAK. Thank you. 

Mr. Bethel, your opening statement, please, sir. 

Mr. BETHEL. Mr. Chairman, I do not have an opening statement. 

Mr. STUPAK. OK. Thank you. 

Mr. Mangskau. 

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Hillandale Farms of Iowa, Incorporated’s, production representative. 

I grew up in Minnesota, and upon graduation from high school 

spent nearly 13 years working on a family farm with my father and 

brother in Ellendale, Minnesota. In the late 1980s, I entered college 

to study business administration. While completing my studies in 

1991, I learned about feed and poultry production while working 

for an independent-owned grain and feed company. 

After graduation, I continued working with feed and poultry 

flocks with the farmers’ cooperative located in Oakland, Minnesota. 

Based upon my knowledge of poultry flocks, I was invited to manage production for the Interstate Value Added, IVA, Farmers Cooperative when it began construction in 1998. I served as the production manager and later the general manager of operations at the 

IVA facility in West Union, Iowa, until it was purchased in December of 2007. 

I left the West Union facility in March of 2008 and returned at 

the request of Hillandale Farms of Iowa in March of 2010. I now 

serve as Hillandale’s production representative at the West Union 

facility. 

It will probably help our discussion today if I define a few industry terms. When I talk about egg production, I mean the first of 

three steps in getting eggs to our customers. Egg production encompasses every aspect of farming and raising the hens up until 

the eggs are ready for processing. The next step, egg processing, involves cleaning, grading, and packaging the eggs. The final phase, 

which involves marketing and distribution, has traditionally been 

Hillandale’s area of expertise. 

In order to get fresh quality eggs to market, Hillandale must be 

able to rely on good production and good processing. From 2008 

until recently, Hillandale relied on Wright County for production in 

Iowa. 

In its 50 years of existence, I believe that Hillandale Farms, 

while not perfect, historically has had a record and reputation for 

supplying the Nation with safe quality eggs. In fact, to the best of 

my knowledge, Hillandale Farms had never been involved in a recall until 3 weeks ago, when the FDA told us that seven people had 

become ill from Salmonella at a Mexican restaurant that received 

Hillandale Iowa eggs. There are many other potential sources of 

Salmonella contaminations in restaurants, and we were, to be honest, shocked by the allegation. 

During the prior 4 months, we had shipped about 170 million 

eggs from Iowa, and it was difficult to understand why FDA was 

saying that our eggs were responsible for seven people sick at one 

restaurant. 

The recall has, however, forced Hillandale to take a hard look at 

our operations and will, in the long run, make our operations better. 

On August 20, we voluntarily recalled the relevant eggs, diverted 

all other eggs from those facilities to breaking facilities, and have 

been cooperating with the FDA, State officials, our customers, and 

this subcommittee ever since. And even if the source of the Salmonella illness is never confirmed, where we have fallen short in 

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where Hillandale Farms has no ownership interest, we have terminated our marketing relationship with its owner, Wright County, 

because we were disappointed in the test results there. At the West 

Union facility, we have redoubled our safety efforts and fully addressed all of the issues identified on the FDA’s 483 report. We 

would like to emphasize, however, that no egg from West Union 

has tested positive for SE. 

Nonetheless, Hillandale has retained the former Associate Commissioner of Foods at FDA and the former head of food safety at 

several Fortune 200 companies, including H.J. Heinz, Campbell 

Soups, and Tricon Restaurants, to conduct an intensive assessment 

of food safety at our West Union facility and offer recommendations. You have our commitment that we will implement any and 

all of these recommendations. 

Moreover, Hillandale Farms will continue to cooperate with all 

government officials, including this subcommittee. And I look forward to answering any questions that you may have. Thank you. 

Mr. STUPAK. Thank you. 

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Testimony of Dnane Mangskau 

Production Representative 

Hillandale Farms of Iowa, Inc. 

House Energy and Commerce 

Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations 

Hearing on Safety of the Nation's Food Supply 

September 22, 2010 

Mr. Chairman, Dr. Burgess, and other Subcommittee members, my name is 

Duane Mangskau, and I am Hillandale Farms of Iowa, Inc.' s production 

representative. I grew up in Minnesota and upon graduation from high 

school spent nearly 13 years working on a family farm with my father and 

brother in Ellendale, MN. In the late 1980' s I entered college to study 

business administration. While completing my studies in 1991, I learned 

about feed and poultry production while working for an independently 

owned grain and feed company. 

After graduation, I continued working with feed and poultry flocks with a 

farmer's cooperative located in Oakland, MN. Based upon my knowledge 

of poultry flocks, I was invited to manage production for the Interstate Value 

Added ("IV A") farmer's cooperative when its construction began in 1998. I 

served as the production manager and later the General Manager of 

operations at the IV A facility in West Union, Iowa until it was purchased in 

December of 2007. 

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I left the West Union facility in March 2008 and returned at the request of 

Hillandale Farms ofTowa, Inc. in March of 2010. I now serve as 

Hillandale's production representative at the West Union facility. 

It will probably help our discussion today if I define a few industry terms. 

When I talk about egg production, I mean the first of three steps in getting 

eggs to our customers. Egg production encompasses every aspect of 

farming and raising the hens up until the eggs are ready for processing. The 

next step, egg processing, involves cleaning, grading, and packaging eggs. 

The final phase, whieh involves marketing and distribution, has traditionally 

been Hillandale's area of expertise. 

In order to get fresh quality eggs to market, Hillandale must be able to rely 

on good production and good processing. From 2008 until recently, 

Hillandale relied upon Wright County for production in Iowa. 

In its 50 years of existence, I believe that Hillandale Farms, while not 

perfect, historically has had a record and reputation for supplying the nation 

with safe, quality eggs. 

In fact, to the best of my knowledge, Hillandale Farms had never been 

involved in a recall-until three weeks ago-when the FDA told us that 7 

people had become ill from Salmonella at a Mexican restaurant that received 

Hillandale Iowa eggs. There are many other potential sources of Salmonella 

contamination in restaurants, and we were, to be honest, shocked by the 

allegation. During the prior four months we had shipped about 170 million 

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eggs from Iowa, and it was difficult to understand why FDA was saying our 

eggs were responsible for 7 people sick at one restaurant. 

The recall has, however, forced Hillandale to take a hard look at our 

operations, and will, in the long run, make our operations better. 

On August 20, we voluntarily recalled the relevant eggs, diverted all other 

eggs from those facilities to breaking facilities, and we have been 

cooperating with the FDA, state officials, our customers, and this 

Subcommittee ever since. 

And even if the source of the Salmonella illness is never confirmed, where 

we have fallen short in Iowa we are committed to improving our operations. 

At Alden, where Hillandale Farms has no ownership interest, we have 

terminated our marketing relationship with its owner, Wright County, 

because we were disappointed with the test results there. 

At the West Union facility, we have redoubled our safety efforts and fully 

addressed all of the issues identified in the FDA's 483 report. We would 

like to emphasize, however, that NO egg from West Union has tested 

positive for SE. 

Nonetheless, Hillandale has retained the former Associate Comrnisioner of 

Foods at FDA and the former head of food safety at several Fortune 200 

companies including HJ Heinz, Campbell's Soups and Tricon Restaurants 

to conduct an intensive assessment of food safety at our West Union facility 

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and offer recommendations. You have our commitment that we will 

implement any and all of those recommendations. 

Moreover, Hillandale Farms will continue to cooperate with all 

governmental officials, induding the Subcommittee, and I look forward to 

answering any questions that you may have. 

Thank you. 

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Mr. STUPAK. That concludes testimony. We will open for questions. I will begin. 

Mr. Bethel, I will start with you, if I may. Following the outbreak of the Salmonella, Federal public health officials inspected 

your egg facilities in Iowa over the course of 7 days. During the 

course of the FDA’s investigation, your employee Mr. Mangskau, 

who is providing testimony to the committee today, accompanied 

the agents as they conducted the inspection. 

I would like to ask you about an e-mail you received on August 

21, 2010. In this e-mail you received, Mr. Mangskau summarized 

his notes from the inspection. He wrote: 

Barn 7. Put lids on the dead chicken barrels to reduce vector access. 

Barn 8. Wet manure due to water leaks. Didn’t say it needed to 

be removed, but they didn’t like it. 

Barn 9. Saw old dead birds in a few cages and old chicken heads 

on egg belts. 

So here is my question. And, again, you are under oath, sir. Mr. 

Bethel, prior to receiving Mr. Mangskau’s e-mail, were you aware 

of the conditions he noted at the Hillandale egg facilities in Iowa? 

Mr. BETHEL. I respectfully decline to answer the question based 

on the protection afforded me under the Fifth Amendment of the 

Constitution. 

Mr. STUPAK. Mr. Bethel, I understand that you are invoking your 

right against self-incrimination, which is your prerogative under 

the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Is 

it your intention to invoke the right to refuse any questions during 

this hearing? 

Mr. BETHEL. Yes. 

Mr. STUPAK. Then I will refrain from asking you additional questions about this subject matter and request that other Members 

also refrain from asking you further questions. 

Mr. DeCoster—I’m sorry, Mr. Burgess? 

Mr. BURGESS. Just simply, will I allowed to question Mr. Bethel? 

Mr. STUPAK. You can. But, I mean, I think he has made it pretty 

clear he is going to take the Fifth Amendment to any questions, 

though. 

Mr. BURGESS. I reserve the right to question the witness. 

Mr. STUPAK. You reserve the right during your time. 

Mr. Jack DeCoster, if you will. In your testimony, you admit that 

your facilities had problems in the past. That is indisputable. There 

have been several outbreaks associated with your eggs in two 

States. Specifically Maryland and New York have been mentioned 

today in which your eggs were actually banned. 

Your response in your written testimony, you indicated that 

when you were small, and that you have had—put those problems 

behind us, was what you said. My question to you is this. If you 

have cleaned up your operations as you say, why did this outbreak 

happen? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Mr. Congressman, if I could answer that? 

Mr. STUPAK. Well, that is directed at your father. So let him answer if he can. Can he answer that question? 


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Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. Well, I will try to answer it, but I am 

having trouble hearing. Could you speak up a little bit more, 

please? 

Mr. STUPAK. Sure. In your testimony, you admitted your facilities 

have had problems. That is indisputable. There have been several 

outbreaks associated with your eggs in two States we have heard 

about today, both Maryland and New York, where your eggs were 

actually banned. Your response, and in your written testimony, you 

said: This all occurred when DeCoster Farms were small, and that 

you have put those problems behind you. 

So my question is if you have cleaned up your operations as you 

say, why did this outbreak occur? 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. Well, this is a—Mr. Chairman, this is a 

complicated subject. I have to take it piece by piece kind of. Will 

that be OK? 

Mr. STUPAK. Sure. Let’s go piece by piece, and take the document 

binder right there. Go to binder—to tab number 16. And we will 

go through it piece by piece. 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. Sixteen? 

Mr. STUPAK. Right here. Look under tab 16. 

In August, the FDA inspectors went into your facilities. The conditions they found were appalling. Let me show you some photographs from the inspection. It is a photograph that I put up during 

my opening statement of decaying chickens in your egg-laying facility. You said you were following sophisticated procedures to keep 

your facilities clean. How do you explain dead chickens in your laying—hen-laying houses? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Mr. Congressman, this particular—— 

Mr. STUPAK. I’m sorry. I am talking to Mr. DeCoster, Jack 

DeCoster. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. But he doesn’t run the operation. I do. 

Mr. STUPAK. Right, I know, but he testified that he cleaned up; 

that when you were small, you didn’t have these problems. 

OK. Do you want to answer? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes, sir. 

Mr. STUPAK. OK. How do you account for dead chickens then? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Well, there’s eight dead hens here that 

are in the back of building. And, you know, kind of like a large city, 

there’s 80,000 birds in the building. 

Mr. STUPAK. Sure. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Occasionally we will have some mortality. 

And these are taken to the back of the barn now. Our policy is to 

have these in a barrel. 

Mr. STUPAK. But they weren’t at the time, Were they? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. No. No, sir, they’re not. 

Mr. STUPAK. OK. Go through the other photos, the mice along 

the conveyor belt for the eggs. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. But this here would not be acceptable. 

Mr. STUPAK. Right. Either are mice by this. 

And go through there. Look at the manure coming out of the 

building from the foundations, the door. This isn’t something that 

just happened overnight. That manure pile is about 7 to 8 feet tall. 

It is seeping out through cracks. So, number one, you have got too 

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you’ve got dead mice, you’ve got dead chickens, you’ve got maggots. 

That stuff just didn’t happen. I agree, you have a—you’re a big operation, but with big operations come big responsibilities. 

So how did you clean up your act if you started small and now 

you’ve cleaned up your act? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. In the case—if I could just, kind of, go one 

at a time here on the photos. 

The one that shows the door being gapped open with the manure, 

these houses—as you can see, it is a house that is basically 18 foot 

at the ease there. It is a two-story structure. 

Mr. STUPAK. Sure. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. The hen population is in the top story. 

The building is designed to have these manure pits. And I know 

this has got a lot of press, but this is a standard practice in the 

industry to have manure underneath the birds and then be taken 

out. 

Mr. STUPAK. Sure. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. The problem we had here—the manure 

accumulation in the pit, I agree with you, is not overnight. The 

doors coming open like this is basically an overnight problem. The 

weather through this past winter and this past spring in Iowa has 

been unbelievable, the likes that we have never seen before. And 

the local co-op who takes our manure out for us was just behind. 

They had got behind. I take full responsibility—— 

Mr. STUPAK. Or maybe you have too many birds in the house? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. What? 

Mr. STUPAK. Maybe you have too many laying hens in the house, 

that the house can’t handle all the manure coming down? You have 

too many birds? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. No, sir. The house has got 80,000 birds. 

It is actually designed for 101,000. 

Mr. STUPAK. OK. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. The reason we have 80,000 is we follow 

the UEP Animal Welfare Guidelines. 

But this problem was cleaned up that very day that this picture 

was taken. And what the picture doesn’t show you is that there 

was a manure crew on-site taking this manure out. 

Mr. STUPAK. OK. Did DeCoster Farms, you as operating officer— 

you knew about the FDA putting out a final rule in July. Did you 

comment while that rule was being developed? Did you comment, 

submit comments to the FDA on how you thought the rule should 

be? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. I don’t believe I commented on the rule 

that came out in 2009. 

Mr. STUPAK. OK. So you didn’t need the rule to understand that 

this was unacceptable. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes, this doesn’t have really much to do 

with the rule. 

Mr. STUPAK. Right. I realize that. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. And then what—the problem I have with 

this is not the manure in the pit, sir, but the fact that the door 

is gapped open and it can allow mice inside our facilities. 

Mr. STUPAK. Sure. There is also another photo of manure coming 

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the mice would have been going in those holes, but they probably 

couldn’t get in because the manure was coming out. 

So, with that, my time has expired. Mr. Burgess for questions? 

Mr. BURGESS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

Mr. Bethel, I understand you asserted your privilege under the 

Fifth Amendment, but, nevertheless, I do want to ask you one 

question. Please feel free to answer it if you wish. 

An e-mail dated August 31, 2010 from you to John Glessner 

states, quote, ‘‘Hillandale needs to totally disassociate itself from 

Jack, and it has to be real. Hillandale has a good business base, 

but it will be all gone if I don’t move quickly. And I will not try 

to deceive the public,’’ closed quote. 

First, do you recall sending this e-mail? Is the reference to ‘‘Jack’’ 

Jack DeCoster? And further, why did you state that Hillandale 

needs to disassociate itself from Jack DeCoster? 

And why did you feel a need to state that you will not try to deceive the public? Had someone previously asked you to deceive the 

public? And, if so, would you please share with the committee who 

that would be? 

Mr. BETHEL. I respectfully decline to answer the question based 

on the—— 

Mr. STUPAK. Sorry, Mr. Bethel, would you please turn on the 

mike and pull it forward and then read your statement again? 

Mr. BETHEL. I respectfully decline to answer the question based 

on the protection afforded me under the Fifth Amendment of the 

Constitution. 

Mr. BURGESS. I appreciate that. As the chairman did not excuse 

you as a witness, I felt obligated to ask you that question, because 

it was a significantly important part of our investigation. 

So, Mr. DeCoster—and either Mr. DeCoster—let me ask you this: 

You have seen the photographs. We have talked about the photographs taken by the Food and Drug Administration inspectors at 

your farms to document the observations made in Form 483 and 

show what appear to be astonishingly unsanitary conditions. 

How would you characterize these photographs? And do they 

warrant the alarm and concern being voiced here today? And, if 

not, share with us why not. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes, sir. Thank you. 

The photo—and I haven’t looked at all of them in detail, Mr. 

Congressman. But the rodents that were brought up in the 483, if 

we could take that one first. There was 31 rodents that was counted by FDA, and those 41 rodents were found in going through over 

107 barns that we own. These barns cover approximately 66 acres 

of ground, just on the upper level, not counting the manure pits. 

So—— 

Mr. BURGESS. Now, you know, rather than going through and 

dissecting out the data, do you think the alarm that has been evidenced here today, is that warranted? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. I would like to invite each and every 

member of this board to come and view—— 

Mr. BURGESS. I wish we had had that opportunity also, Mr. 

DeCoster, but it wasn’t afforded to us by the majority. 

Let’s go on. I may submit some questions to you in writing, but, 

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Prior to the FDA egg rule, there were no Federal requirements, 

testing requirements, for Salmonella at egg production facilities, 

but some States and some industry groups voluntarily set guidelines. 

So if the Salmonella testing is not required by law, when and 

why did you start testing for Salmonella? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Our reason for testing for Salmonella, we 

first originally started testing to see if we may have it. We didn’t 

have any trace-backs, we didn’t have any reported illnesses. There 

was no government agency that says that we should test. We tested voluntarily because we was trying to learn if we had the problem, and then if we did have the problem, what would be the best 

practices that we could set forward—— 

Mr. BURGESS. Yes. Now, I’m going to interrupt you again. I’m not 

trying to be rude. But let me just suggest that if you took 72 swabs 

in 1 day and all but 8 tested positive, you’ve got a problem. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Well, yes, sir, and we—— 

Mr. BURGESS. Can I suggest that to you? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Well, you can suggest it, sir. But I would 

like to talk to Dr. Chuck Hofacre. He is the leading expert on this. 

And he has been guiding us through this whole—— 

Mr. BURGESS. And I will tell you what, let me submit that to you 

in writing, because I do want to get an additional question in. 

Prior to the egg rule, when your company received a positive environmental result for Salmonella, what corrective action did you 

take? And did you automatically test the eggs as a precautionary 

measure? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. The results—we have been taking this 

kind of as—over a period of time, we have been learning more and 

working with Dr. Hofacre. But we have implemented things such 

as vaccinating, and then vaccinating the flocks twice as we learn 

more. We have eliminated molting in our system. And we have also 

eliminated the use of meat and bonemeal. 

Mr. BURGESS. I’m going to stop you because I’m about to run out 

of time. 

When did the FDA come to you and suggest that you needed to 

recall your eggs? Do you remember the calendar date? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. I’m going to say the first, initial contact 

was a phone call, and that would have been August 12th. 

Mr. BURGESS. And what date did you institute the recall? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. The very following day. We received that 

call that late afternoon, and the very next day we issued the recall. 

Mr. BURGESS. Were you required to do so? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. No, sir. This was a voluntary measure 

that we—— 

Mr. BURGESS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate your indulgence. 

Mr. STUPAK. Thank you. 

Does any other Member wish to ask Mr. Bethel a question? Because I’m about to excuse him since he has invoked his Fifth 

Amendment. I had asked Members to refrain from asking him a 

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cused me of censorship. So I thought I would give him that opportunity. 

So does any other Member—seeing no other response, Mr. Bethel, you certainly invoked your rights, and that is your right and 

privilege here. And thank you for being here, but you will be dismissed from this panel. 

Mr. BETHEL. Thank you. 

Mr. STUPAK. Mr. Waxman for questions. 

Mr. WAXMAN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

Mr. Jack DeCoster, how long have you been in the business of 

chickens and eggs? 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. Since 1949, September 5th, when my dad 

died. 

Mr. WAXMAN. Uh-huh. So you inherited the business from your 

father, as your son is doing the business with you? 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. Yes. He had 125 hens. I took them over. 

Mr. WAXMAN. Now, you have had a history of over 30 years of 

problems with Salmonella-infected eggs, and you had a pretty sordid record. You said it was because you were a small operation and 

you got bigger and you still operated as if you were a small operation. You had problems in the 1990s, and you had problems in 

Maine and Maryland. Now you’re in Iowa, and you don’t want to 

have any problems anymore. So you said you really tried to change 

your operation. You modernized and cleaned up the facility. 

But that’s not what the record indicates. FDA conducted an inspection. They did this last August. I want to read you some passages and ask you to respond. 

They found, quote, you ‘‘failed to achieve satisfactory rodent and 

pest control, as evidenced by the following: live and dead flies too 

numerous to count. The live flies were on and around egg belts, 

feed, and shell eggs. In addition, live and dead maggots too numerous to count were observed.’’ 

Does this sound like a clean facility to you? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Mr. Congressman, if you don’t mind, I 

would like to answer the 483 questions for Iowa. 

Mr. WAXMAN. Well, I’m happy to hear from you because you’re 

very much involved in running the operation now. But your father 

has been in this business for longer than you have, and he wanted 

to make sure he is living up to a higher standard. I want to know 

if he feels this is a higher standard. 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. OK. Well, higher standards in the State 

of Maine, where I live—— 

Mr. WAXMAN. Well, I’m not asking about Maine. I’m asking 

about the report of the inspection from the FDA. You were determined to run a clean operation, and then they found all these dead 

flies and maggots and other problems. Does that bother you? 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. It bothers me a lot. But I feel like 

Peter—we have a certain way we handle flies, a certain way we 

handle mice. We have hired Maxcy Nolan, who is considered an expert. 

Mr. WAXMAN. When did you hire him? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Maxcy has been coming out to our facility 

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Mr. WAXMAN. Well, I want to read to you another finding from 

the FDA, and you may want to consider firing this guy. 

The FDA said you ‘‘failed to take steps to ensure that there is 

not introduction or transfer of SE’’—Salmonella Enteritidis—‘‘into 

or among the poultry houses. This was evidenced by the following 

observations: uncaged birds. Chickens having escaped were observed in the egg-laying operation in contact with the egg-laying 

birds. The uncaged birds were using the manure, which was approximately 8 feet high, to access the egg-laying area.’’ 

What this means is that the chickens had escaped the henhouse, 

they were walking in the manure pit, and then mixing in with the 

caged birds. Do you agree with the FDA that this is a violation of 

appropriate safety standards or procedures? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. We are, kind of, jumping around a little 

bit. We are going from rodents to flies to loose chickens. But if we 

want to stick with the loose chickens for a minute, there was—they 

observed two or three loose chickens that had got out of their cages 

in a couple different houses. And in the course of our barn men 

doing their work, they will access a cage, whether it be a sick hen, 

a water nipple that may be leaking or need repair, and a chicken 

can escape when they open the door. Or if they forget to close the 

door completely, a chicken can escape. 

Now, these chickens—— 

Mr. WAXMAN. Mr. DeCoster, let me interrupt you to say this. You 

have had problems in the past, right? Over 30 years of problems 

in different States. You had a call from the FDA to recall your 

eggs, and you voluntarily did that, and then the inspection took 

place. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes. 

Mr. WAXMAN. That’s when the FDA found all these problems. 

You’ve claimed that you were going to modernize and clean up your 

facility, but it doesn’t appear that you have modernized and 

cleaned up your facilities. It sounds like, to me, that both of you 

are refusing to take responsibility for a very poor facility. 

According to the FDA inspections, they found all these rodents. 

You would think, after you were called on to recall the eggs, you 

would have made sure your facility was cleaned up. Maybe you did. 

Maybe this is as clean as you got it, but it still looked pretty dirty. 

How do you respond to that? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Well, hopefully I will be allowed to finish 

this time. But, I mean, we are jumping all over the place. You’re 

not giving me fair time to answer the question. And then—— 

Mr. WAXMAN. Well, then I’m going to—I’m going to have your father respond, because he talked about how he wanted to clean up 

the facility. And I want to ask him to tell us whether he approves 

of the conditions and how his son operates the facility. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Mr. Congressman—— 

Mr. WAXMAN. After this FDA inspection, all of these problems 

they just found, after the recall already started, do you think this 

is a satisfactory way for the facility to be run? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Mr. Congressman—— 

Mr. WAXMAN. I have asked your father. I have asked your father. 

I’m asking the questions. 

Mr. Jack DeCoster? 


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Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. Yes, I follow what you are saying. OK? 

However, this is a very big operation. We have a certain way we 

go about running it. Regardless—— 

Mr. WAXMAN. You had problems when you ran it that way, and 

you were going to clean it up. So, where you are now is, you feel, 

cleaned up and adequate? 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. Sir, please, let me talk, OK? 

We have a certain way that—our barn man goes into the chicken 

house. He has a certain way he does this work. OK? He starts in 

the morning, he pulls out the dead chickens. He spends a certain 

amount of time checking the egg belts, taking the dead chickens 

out, checking the water, checking the lights. Then what he does, 

he goes and he sweeps all of the barns. He goes into the pits. He 

checks the leaking water that is coming down from upstairs into 

the pit. He checks loose birds in the pit. He puts light bulbs in if 

there’s any missing light bulbs. He was supposed to be checking 

this door that was pushed out. That door would not stay like that 

very long. 

Mr. WAXMAN. Mr. DeCoster, we only have a certain amount of 

time, and my time is pretty much over. But I do want to tell you 

this. 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. I’m sorry. 

Mr. WAXMAN. It is hard for me to reconcile your words, that you 

wanted to clean up and you did clean up the facility, with the 

record before the committee. The conditions in your facility were 

not clean, they were not sanitary. They were filthy. And given the 

30-year record of violations, it appears that you are a habitual violator of basic safety standards. And I must say, for you to come before us and say, ‘‘It is the feed; we had nothing to do with it,’’ it 

is hard for me to believe and accept at face value. 

My time has expired, but I just want you to know my thoughts 

about it. 

Mr. STUPAK. The gentleman’s time has expired. 

Mr. Latta for questions, please. 

Mr. LATTA. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 

Mr. DeCoster, Peter, looking at this report, this 483, the date of 

issue is August the 30th. How often has the FDA been inspecting? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. That’s the first time the FDA has been to 

our facilities. 

Mr. LATTA. For any of your facilities? OK. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Well, for the barns, the chicken barns. 

Mr. LATTA. OK. Let me ask, is the USDA on your premises at 

all times or at the different houses? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. The USDA EMS does grading of our processing plants, all of our processing facilities. We have the voluntary 

program of USDA, which, you know, we incur the cost. 

Mr. LATTA. OK. But, again—I know I have been in different 

houses and facilities, and there is usually someone from the USDA. 

Is there a USDA person on the premises part of the time, all the 

time? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. USDA would be in the processing plant 

during the hours of operation, generally from 6:00 in the morning 

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Mr. LATTA. OK. Do you have the Department of Agriculture in 

Iowa inspecting out there? Does the Department of Agriculture in 

Iowa inspect facilities? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. No, sir. The DNR would inspect any environmental-type issue, but Department of Ag has never been out to 

inspect. 

Mr. LATTA. OK. What does your DNR do? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. It stands for the Department of Natural 

Resources. 

Mr. LATTA. Right, right, but, I mean, what is their role on the 

farm, then? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Their role is basically on any environmental issue. If manure threatens the water of the States would 

be one of the major ones. 

Mr. LATTA. OK. When they do their—now, they do, like, an inspection of the houses around the facility? Do they do water-quality 

tests like in—you know, I come from the largest county in the 

State of Ohio that has ditches. I’ve got 3,000 miles of ditches in my 

home county. And so, you know, are they doing water-quality tests 

in ditches? Is that what they are doing? Are they away from the 

facility, or are they on the facility’s site? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. The only thing they would inspect on the 

facility is a complaint or if there is an annual inspection on the lagoons. 

Mr. LATTA. OK. Now, and talking about, like, with the lagoon— 

and I heard what you said about it was a wet spring out there, and 

I know it was a wet spring in Ohio, trying to get crops out. What 

is your manure management plan? Do you have to file that with 

someone? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes, there’s manure management plans on 

every CAFO in Iowa. Our manure management plan, because we 

do the sale of our manure with the local co-op, who uses it for fertilizer, they have the manure management plan. 

Mr. LATTA. OK. And who do you file that CAFO plan with? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. The DNR. 

Mr. LATTA. The DNR. OK, do they—OK. Now, because I know 

we were just talking about looking at water quality and things like 

that, does the DNR then do an inspection around the buildings, 

then, on that for the CAFO? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Not on a regular basis. But the DNR, 

after, I guess, reading some of the articles in the newspaper, came 

up and did an inspection around our layer barns and said everything looked OK. I haven’t heard anything more. 

Mr. LATTA. OK. Now, let me ask you, then, when you say they 

come not that often, how often would they come around from DNR 

on that end? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Normally, under those type of circumstances, if they are called out to do it. 

Mr. LATTA. So they wouldn’t do it on, like, a 6-month or 12- 

month basis? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. No. 

Mr. LATTA. OK. Now, who hauls your—you know, how often do 

you have to clean your barns? Are your barns deep pit, or do you 

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Mr. PETER DECOSTER. The majority of our barns are deep pit, 

like the pictures show here, but we do have one facility that is a 

belt battery, where the manure is removed on a daily basis and put 

in another barn. 

Mr. LATTA. And then, with the deep pit, how do you get that out? 

Are you using, like, skid steers, Bobcats? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes, skid steers. Bobcat would be a brand 

that would be used. But they go through these doors that are 

shown in the picture. 

Mr. LATTA. And then, how often would they do that? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Our program was to clean every barn 

every other year. We did that for a measure of fly control. Fresh 

manure, you tend to have a better environment for the flies. So we 

was going with every other year, which we have changed that policy last year to remove the manure every year. 

Mr. LATTA. Thank you. 

Mr. Chairman, I think my time has expired, and I yield back. 

Mr. STUPAK. Thank you, Mr. Latta. 

Mr. Braley for questions, please. 

Mr. BRALEY. Thank you. 

Gentlemen, you weren’t here earlier when I delivered the ode to 

the Iowa egg. And I can tell you, I have personally been supporting 

the Iowa egg industry for 53 years, and there is no bigger fan of 

the products you produce. 

But I also was sitting down to breakfast in a restaurant when 

I first heard about this story. And I can tell you, it literally made 

me sick to my stomach and caused me to order something different 

on the menu. 

And then I was down at the Iowa State Fair earlier this year, 

in the Varied Industries Building, looking at a lot of very nervous 

egg producers with the Iowa Egg Council. 

So I’m going to ask each one of you, do you feel any personal responsibility to the impact that this recall, this massive recall, is 

having on Iowa egg producers? 

Mr. Mangskau? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. It is too bad that this occurred, and we do feel 

sorry for any inconvenience and cost that it has caused the industry. 

Mr. BRALEY. I apologize to the two Misters DeCoster, but it’s 

easier if I just refer to you by your first names, if that’s all right. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. That’s fine. 

Mr. BRALEY. Peter? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes, absolutely. I mean, this—this is an 

issue I feel terrible has occurred, and it is affecting our industry. 

Mr. BRALEY. Jack? 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. I feel very bad about it, very bad. It is 

a horrible thing. 

Mr. BRALEY. Well, the problem that egg producers in Iowa and 

all over the country are facing is a series of headlines like the one 

in today’s New York Times, ‘‘An Iowa Egg Farmer and a History 

of Salmonella’’; the Los Angeles Times, ‘‘Filthy Conditions Found at 

Egg Producers’’; ‘‘Egg Farms Violated Safety Rules’’; ‘‘FDA Details 

Numerous Violations At Egg Farms’’; ‘‘Egg Recall: Mouse, Fly InVerDate Mar 15 2010 03:47 Apr 05, 2013 Jkt 078134 PO 00000 Frm 00084 Fmt 6633 Sfmt 6633 E:\HR\OC\A134.XXX A134

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festations Date Back 10 Years, Workers Say’’; Tainted Eggs Reveal 

Lapse in State Protocol.’’ 

And the problem that a lot of us have here on this committee is 

a sense that there is a disconnect between the problems identified 

in these stories and identified in the FDA’s investigation and the 

sense of responsibility. 

And we had two witnesses who testified at the earlier panel who 

talked about the personal impact that this Salmonella contamination had on them. 

Here is the story in today’s New York Times: ‘‘On a July night 

in 1987, scores of elderly and chronically ill patients at Bird S. 

Coler Memorial Hospital in New York City began to fall violently 

ill with food poisoning from eggs tainted with Salmonella. ‘It was 

like a war zone,’ said Dr. Philippe Tassy, the doctor on call as sickness started to rage through the hospital. By the time the outbreak 

ended more than 2 weeks later, 9 people had died and about 500 

people had become sick. It remains the deadliest outbreak in this 

country attributed to eggs infected with the bacteria known as Salmonella Enteritidis. This year, the same bacteria sickened thousands of people nationwide and led to a recall of a half a billion 

eggs. Despite the gap of decades, there is a crucial link between the 

two outbreaks. In both cases, the eggs came from farms owned by 

Austin J. DeCoster, one of the country’s biggest egg producers.’’ 

And, Jack, I think one of the things that people around the country are asking is, if your company’s commitment to food safety is 

as strong as you have indicated in your opening statement to this 

committee, how is it possible that, after all this time, we have another DeCoster egg producer involved in a half-billion-dollar recall? 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. Well, the question is complicated, sir. 

Mr. BRALEY. I would like the record to reflect that the counsel 

for the witness has handed him a document. 

Mr. AUSTIN DECOSTER. Congressman, this SE happened 23 years 

ago in one of our farms in Maryland. We destroyed the flocks. After 

we destroyed the flocks, we cleaned it all out, washed it all up, and 

then put the new pullets in it. And then, it wasn’t very long after 

that that we—after we put the new pullets in—which we bought 

these pullets from a company in Indiana. It wasn’t ones that we 

raised, or at least not all of the ones we put in the complex. 

And after we get it all filled up again with new birds, all clean, 

we thought—and we had, also, a person from Pennsylvania, a doctor, coming down to our flocks and testing all of them, reporting 

that they was OK. And then we had a reason to take a bird or a 

few birds down to the Salisbury Laboratory in Maryland. And we 

took them down, and they found SE in a bird or—I don’t remember 

too clearly right now, but they at least found Salmonella in the 

birds. 

So then FDA came over to our place. And way back then FDA 

came over, and they tested every one of our flocks and our chicken 

houses. And if I remember this correctly—this was a long time 

ago—but we had to take out at least half of all the flocks again, 

maybe—it was a seven-house complex. We had to take at least 

three to four flocks out. We had to wash it all again, and then we 

filled it back up again. 

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Mr. BRALEY. Mr. Chairman, my time has expired. But I would 

ask unanimous consent to submit for the record the editorials that 

I referred to earlier in my questioning. 

Mr. STUPAK. Without objection—before they are entered, a request to see them. So if you would provide them, we will look at 

them. Then, without objection, we will put them in. 

[The information was unavailable at the time of printing.] 

Mr. STUPAK. Mr. Dingell for questions, please. 

Mr. DINGELL. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I commend you for 

this hearing and for the extraordinary leadership that you have 

given in our efforts to reform and to enhance the powers of FDA. 

My questions are going to remind me of a day in 1990 when this 

subcommittee went into the questions of food safety and, indeed, in 

Salmonella in eggs. 

I would like to welcome you both, Messrs. DeCoster. And I’d 

begin my question by saying this: The Food and Drug Administration’s staff reports on this matter, which I ask unanimous consent 

be inserted in the record—— 

Mr. STUPAK. Without objection. 

Mr. DINGELL [continuing]. Refer to inquiries about your facilities. 

[The information was unavailable at the time of printing.] 

Mr. DINGELL. And they say, ‘‘Barns were infested with flies, 

maggots, and scurrying rodents. Manure piled 4 to 8 feet high in 

certain areas. Leaking manure pits. Employees working without 

protective clothing. And uncaged hens tracking manure from manure pit to other areas of the operation.’’ 

Is that true? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. We’ve—if we could take one of these at a 

time. The comment about the employees—— 

Mr. DINGELL. Well, it is either true or not. Is it true, or is it not 

true? Yes or no? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. I would say that it’s partially true. 

Mr. DINGELL. Partially true. Well, that’s like being partially 

pregnant. It’s pretty hard to do. 

Now, having said this, you were having trouble in the 1990s, and 

it resulted in a calamitous situation at the Bird S. Coler Memorial 

Hospital in New York, just referred to by one of my colleagues. 

I’m curious here, do you dispute any of the allegations made in 

the reports by Food and Drug, yes or no? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. On the 483? 

Mr. DINGELL. The reports of the Food and Drug staff to Food and 

Drug, do you dispute any of the statements in those with regard 

to the conditions at your farms? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes, sir. When we did our—— 

Mr. DINGELL. Specifically which ones do you dispute? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. OK, the one that you brought up about 

the people going from one barn to another. That was not specified 

in the FDA’s rule, that it says even in their guidance document—— 

Mr. DINGELL. OK. Is that your only dispute? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. No, sir. 

Mr. DINGELL. What others do you dispute? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Well, the dispute we had also—they 

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manure, and they were not. There was only 4 doors that were like 

that out of the 292. The—— 

Mr. DINGELL. Now, do you dispute the finding that there were 

live mice and dead flies too numerous to count in your facilities? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. I would say there was live and dead flies. 

This is a farm; they are chicken barns. We have a very stringent 

fly program that Dr. Maxcy Nolan has laid out that is even tougher 

than the FDA rules. 

Mr. DINGELL. Do you dispute the statement of Food and Drug 

that these conditions do not promote safety and quality? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. I guess I’m not familiar with that statement. 

Mr. DINGELL. OK. What plans do you have in place to prevent 

Salmonella contamination? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. We have outlined a very extensive plan 

that we submitted to the FDA. 

Mr. DINGELL. Would you submit those plans for the record, if you 

please? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes, I’d be more than happy to. 

Mr. DINGELL. All right. Now, I understand that two positive SE 

samples were collected from your feed mill. Is this true? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes. There was two swabs that were positive. 

Mr. DINGELL. The source is thought to be a raw ingredient acquired from a third party. Is this true? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. That’s what we believe, sir. We have 

not—— 

Mr. DINGELL. Now, what levels of responsibility do you have for 

the ingredients you receive from third parties and subsequently use 

in your operations? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. We’ve put in a full array of testing. We’re 

taking samples from every incoming load. We’ve talked to all of our 

vendors, for them also to do testing. We are going to do a composite 

on these loads weekly and send them in for testing. We are going 

to do a monthly swabbing of our feed mill. We are currently in the 

process of completely cleaning and disinfecting the entire mill from 

top to bottom. And we have done extensive employee training to 

make sure that the mill is kept tightened up, so that there is no 

open hatches as noted in the—— 

Mr. DINGELL. What steps do you take to ensure that those 

planned or announced safeguards are implemented? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. We have a daily inspection by the mill 

manager. Then we have an outside supervisor who is going to inspect the facilities once a week and give me a full report. 

Mr. DINGELL. Do you still have—do you still have your hog operations? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. We own some hog facilities, but we don’t 

own any hog—— 

Mr. DINGELL. I’m sorry? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. We don’t operate hog facilities. We just 

lease them. 

Mr. DINGELL. I see. 

Mr. Chairman, I note with some distress that my time is up, and 

I thank you for your courtesy. 


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Mr. STUPAK. Thank you, Mr. Dingell. 

Ms. DeGette for questions, please. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

Mr. DeCoster, your company hires a private auditing company to 

audit Wright County Farms annually, correct? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes, ma’am. 

Ms. DEGETTE. And this company is AIB, which is a private, forprofit food-safety auditing firm, correct? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Right. They are—— 

Ms. DEGETTE. Thank you. OK. 

And if you will turn to Tab 5 of the notebook in front of you, on 

June 7th and 8th, 2010, your farm was actually inspected by AIB, 

correct? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes, ma’am. 

Ms. DEGETTE. And AIB actually issued a superior certificate to 

the farm, correct? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes, they did. 

Ms. DEGETTE. And this has been happening—you get inspected 

annually. And if you’ll take a look at Tab 7 of your notebook, on 

August 20th, 2008, the farm was also—oh, I’m sorry, that’s a different one. Let’s just stick with Tab 5 for a minute. I’ll talk about 

Tab 7 in a second. 

So AIB audited your company in 2008 two times, four times in 

2009, and at least one time in 2010. And every time, you were 

found to be superior. Is that correct? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes. This is an inspection of the processing facility—— 

Ms. DEGETTE. Uh-huh. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER [continuing]. And not of the chicken barns. 

Ms. DEGETTE. OK. 

And what I wanted to talk about with Tab 7, if you’ll look at 

that, unbelievably to this committee, in 2009 AIB was the same 

auditor that audited the Peanut Corporation of America and also 

gave them a superior recommendation. 

Do you see that in your notebook, as well? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes, ma’am. 

Ms. DEGETTE. So here’s the thing, is both the Peanut Corporation of America and Wright County Egg paid AIB to audit their 

companies and receive superior ratings right before both companies 

sold products that sickened thousands of people with Salmonella. 

And, Mr. Chairman, I bring this up to say that just relying on 

third-party auditors is not going to guarantee consumer safety, 

which is why, getting back to all of our point, we need to pass this 

bill. 

I wanted to ask you a couple of questions, Mr. Mangskau. In 

your opening statement, you said, ‘‘In order to get fresh, quality 

eggs to market, Hillandale must be able to rely on good production 

and good processing,’’ correct? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. That is correct. 

Ms. DEGETTE. You can’t have good production and good processing without a clean and up-to-standard facility, correct? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. Yes. 

Ms. DEGETTE. And you also said in your opening statement that 

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why FDA was saying your eggs were responsible for seven people 

sick at one restaurant, correct? Because you thought that your 

processes were good; is that right? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. That’s correct. 

Ms. DEGETTE. OK. 

Now, the FDA inspected your facilities August 19th through August 26th, 2010, and they found numerous, quote, ‘‘unsealed rodent 

holes, liquid manure streaming from a crack in the manure pit, 

and uncaged hens tracking manure through the laying facilities.’’ 

Do you think that that’s up to a standard of care, sir? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. Those—the rodent holes were open because we 

were baiting them. 

Ms. DEGETTE. OK. Do you think those findings are consistent 

with the high standard of care at the facility, yes or no? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. No. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Thank you. 

Now, you said a minute ago, when someone asked you about— 

Mr. Braley actually asked you about the effect on the egg industry, 

and you said you apologized for any inconvenience. 

Do you have any idea how much the egg industry’s profits have 

gone down because of these recalls? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. I would not know. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Do you know that, Mr. DeCoster? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. No, ma’am. I don’t have knowledge of 

that. 

Ms. DEGETTE. All right. 

Well, Mr. Chairman, I think we’ll find that out, because I am 

sure it’s millions and millions of dollars. 

Mr. DeCoster, I wanted to ask you one last question, and that 

is: Chairman Waxman was talking to you about the condition of 

the facilities, which you apologized for. But you also seem to think 

that perhaps the Salmonella came in in the feed, correct? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. That’s what we are believing at the moment. 

Ms. DEGETTE. OK. So here is my question. You’re running large 

egg facilities. Do you have a regular system where you test the feed 

that comes in, to make sure that it is not contaminating the chickens that eat it? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. We don’t test—we did not test for—— 

Ms. DEGETTE. Are you going to establish such a system now, sir? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes, ma’am. That is what I was talking 

about earlier with the testing every load and doing a weekly composite and sending that into the lab. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Right. 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. We’re currently doing that. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Probably you should have been doing that all 

along, huh? 

Mr. PETER DECOSTER. Yes. In hindsight, yes, ma’am. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Thank you. 

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

Mr. STUPAK. Thank you, Ms. DeGette. 

Mr. Doyle for questions, please. 

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Mr. Mangskau, I want to ask you about the role you played in 

Hillandale’s egg operations in Iowa. When did you start working 

for Hillandale Farms? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. I was hired in March of 2010. 

Mr. DOYLE. And, at the time of the recall, what were your responsibilities at the two facilities? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. I was overseeing the plant at West Union and 

working—trying to work into the opportunity to have more control 

of the day-to-day productions at the Alden facility. 

Mr. DOYLE. Now, I understand that one Hillandale facility is located in Alden, Iowa. And in a letter to committee staff, dated September 17th, 2010, the lawyers for the company wrote that, in this 

facility, Hillandale, quote, ‘‘has virtually no authority over the production and processing aspects.’’ 

And in regards to the second facility in West Union, your company lawyer stated that Hillandale has limited responsibility for 

the production and processing phases of that facility. 

Mr. Mangskau, can you clarify what role Hillandale played at 

these two facilities? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. When I was hired in March by Hillandale 

Farms, they wanted me to come back and work with the West 

Union facility initially, start to take a role in the day-to-day operations there, and, as time went on, hopefully to work into some 

day-to-day control at the Alden facility. 

Mr. DOYLE. Uh-huh. Who owned the buildings on these farms? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. To the best of my knowledge, Wright County 

Farms owns the Alden facility and has a shared interest in the 

West Union facility. 

Mr. DOYLE. How about the chickens? Who owns the chickens? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. I don’t have any direct knowledge on who owns 

those. 

Mr. DOYLE. How many Hillandale employees do you have at each 

of these facilities? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. The people at West Union are Hillandale employees. It varies up and down, and there’s probably in the forties 

in payroll there. 

Mr. DOYLE. In your testimony, you stated that Hillandale has 

terminated its marketing relationship with Wright County Egg at 

the Alden facility. To your knowledge, does Hillandale have any 

other business relationships in other States with Mr. DeCoster or 

any of his associates? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. That’s outside of the scope of my job duties. 

Mr. DOYLE. So I guess I get Hillandale didn’t make the eggs; 

Wright County did. But you’re a major egg producer too, and you’re 

in a position to know whether you’re running a clean and safe operation. 

Let me ask you, in light of this recall, how has this changed the 

culture at Hillandale on how you produce eggs and do business? 

Mr. MANGSKAU. Well, it’s definitely going to make us take a closer look at what we do. We have hired two consultants to come in. 

The gal that was at the FDA and the person with food safety at 

several Fortune 200 food companies, we brought them in. They are 

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We have discontinued our agreement with the Wright County 

Farms at Alden. We will no longer be receiving pullets that Wright 

County has raised for the West Union facility. We are bringing on 

another staff position at West Union to increase and do a better job 

of documentation on quality control. 

Mr. DOYLE. OK. Well, you know, Hillandale Farms is a brand I 

see in my store all the time in Pittsburgh, and I venture to say 

that I’ve eaten hundreds of your eggs. I want to continue to feel 

good about picking those boxes up when I go to the supermarket. 

You know, the important thing that comes out of this hearing 

and subsequently if we can finally get a bill out of the Senate, we 

just want to make sure that every consumer, when they go into 

that store, has a good feeling about a brand when they see it. And 

your company has a pretty good reputation in my neck of the 

woods, so I was surprised to see your name mentioned when this 

broke out. 

But I hope it is a wake-up call to everybody in the industry, that 

Americans expect—have a right to expect that, when they buy your 

food, your products, that you’re not going to make them sick or, 

worse yet, cause them to die. 

Mr. Chairman, I see my time has expired. 

Mr. STUPAK. Thank you, Mr. Doyle. 

That concludes the questions from the panel. I’m going to excuse 

this panel. And thank you for coming today, but you will be excused. 

We’ll go to our third panel in a moment here. 

On our third panel today we have Dr. Josh Sharfstein, deputy 

commissioner, Food and Drug Administration. 

It is the policy of this subcommittee to take all testimony under 

oath. Please be advised that you have the right under the rules of 

the House to be advised by counsel during your testimony. Do you 

wish to be represented by counsel? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. No. 

Mr. STUPAK. OK. Then I’m going to ask you please rise, raise 

your right hand, and take the oath. 

[Witness sworn.] 

Mr. STUPAK. Let the record reflect the witness has stated that he 

will—he testified in the affirmative that he understands he is now 

under oath. 

Dr. Sharfstein, welcome. And you may begin your opening statement, please. 

TESTIMONY OF JOSHUA M. SHARFSTEIN, M.D., PRINCIPAL 

DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, U.S. FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Thank you. Good afternoon, Chairman Stupak, 

Congressman Burgess, and members of the subcommittee. I am 

Joshua Sharfstein, the principal deputy commissioner of the U.S. 

Food and Drug Administration. Thank you for the opportunity to 

appear before you today to discuss the recent food-borne illness 

outbreak caused by Salmonella Enteritidis. 

I would like to provide some general background on egg safety, 

discuss the outbreak and response, and then talk about what FDA 

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Salmonella Enteritidis, or SE as it is known, is a pathogen know 

to contaminate eggs. Contamination can occur when bacteria is 

passed from the chicken to the inside of the egg or when bacteria 

passes through fractures in the shell. If not fully cooked, eggs with 

Salmonella Enteritidis can cause human disease. 

If an egg farm is out of control for Salmonella Enteritidis, then 

many thousands of illnesses can result. It is estimated that contaminated eggs cause as many as 140,000 illnesses a year in the 

United States. 

In 1999, FDA announced an Egg Safety Action Plan to reduce 

this enormous burden of illness. FDA staff pushed for a decade to 

put into place specific safety standards at egg production facilities. 

The agency finalized its rule in July 2009, with provisions to take 

effect starting in July 2010. 

FDA’s egg rule requires producers to have a clear plan for preventing SE contamination and to implement recognized control 

measures that reduce the risk of contamination, including buying 

chicks and young hens only from suppliers who meet standards for 

producing SE-free birds; establishing rodent, pest control, and 

other bio-security measures to prevent the spread of bacteria 

throughout the farm; conducting testing of the poultry house environment for Salmonella Enteritidis, and if an environmental sample is found positive, testing eggs and disinfecting the house before 

adding new laying hens; diverting eggs that have been found to be 

positive to processed uses; and refrigerating eggs at 45 degrees 

Fahrenheit during storage and transportation. 

Before implementation of this important rule took effect, the 

number of SE cases nationwide began to grow in late spring. By 

July, CDC had noticed a significant increase, and several States 

had begun conducting epidemiological investigations to identify the 

source of the problem. 

FDA set up an emergency response team to help sort through the 

various theories of what was causing the outbreak and identify its 

source. The agency relied upon its field staff in multiple States. 

And, working with CDC and our State and local partners, we 

traced the problem to eggs produced at several Iowa farms. As soon 

as this trace-back was completed, FDA recommended, and Wright 

County Egg agreed, to a major recall of eggs from the linked farms. 

FDA also sent inspectors in to look at the conditions of the nearby farms also under Wright Egg and Hillandale as additional epidemiological evidence accumulated. Because of concerns about the 

conditions of these farms, FDA recommended and Wright County 

Egg and Hillandale Farms agreed to additional recalls. 

Significantly, these recalls, totaling 500 million eggs, came about 

2 weeks before any positive lab findings. FDA acted before confirmatory evidence became available, using our best judgment to protect the public health. 

What caused the SE outbreak? FDA inspectors found numerous 

problems at both farms. These included significant deficiencies in 

pest control, significant problems with the handling of manure, and 

significant gaps in bio-security measures to prevent cross-contamination. We also identified SE matching the outbreak strain in the 

feed mill supply on the farms which are associated with Wright 

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farms, and in the water used to clean the eggs at the Hillandale 

Farm. 

We believe that there are multiple potential sources of introduction for SE on these farms. Once introduced, these farms did not 

have the systems in place to control the spread. In fact, some of 

the deficiencies likely contributed to the spread of SE, leading to 

widespread contamination. 

Prevention of food-borne illness is what consumers expect and 

deserve from our food-safety system. With our State and Federal 

counterparts, we are reviewing this outbreak to understand what 

the agency can do to improve its work on behalf of the public. 

Now that the egg rule is in place, FDA is moving to quickly inspect other egg facilities. To assure that strong preventive efforts 

are in place, we intend to inspect all 600 or so large egg facilities 

that are now subject to the rule by the end of calendar year 2011. 

In order for these inspections to be as successful as possible, 

there is something Congress can do to help us. Proposed legislation 

will give FDA more tools as we are doing these inspections to assure compliance, including enhanced administrative detention authority, civil money penalties, stronger criminal penalties, and 

mandatory recall. 

This critical legislation will also do a lot more than help make 

eggs safer. It would give FDA the tools to establish appropriate 

prevention standards much more efficiently across the food supply, 

and it would strengthen FDA’s ability to hold companies accountable for meeting these standards with a new inspection mandate, 

new resources, and stronger enforcement tools. 

The legislation would also strengthen our ability to respond to 

problems through new traceability standards, mandatory recall authority, and closer collaboration with our State partners to build 

upon and leverage their frontline capacities. 

We hope this Congress will take the historic step of enacting 

comprehensive food-safety legislation to give FDA the resources 

and tools we need for a modern and effective food-safety system. 

Thank you very much. I’m happy to take questions. 

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TESTIMONY OF 

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Food and Drug Administration 

Silver Spring MD 20993 

DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES 

BEFORE THE 

SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND INVESTIGATIONS 

COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE 

U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 

SEPTEMBER 22,2010 

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INTRODUCTION 

Good afternoon, Chairman Stupak and Members of the Subcommittee. I am Dr. Joshua M. 

Sharf stein, Principal Deputy Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA or the 

Agency), which is part of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). Thank you for 

the opportunity to appear before you today to discuss the recent Salmonella Enteritidis (SE) 

foodborne illness outbreak associated with shell eggs produced by Wright County Egg and 

Hillandale Farms ofIowa, Inc. Before discussing this outbreak, I would first like to thank you, 

Chairman Stupak, Chairman Waxman, Chairman Emeritus Dingell, Ranking Member Barton, 

Ranking Member Burgess, and other Members of the Committee, for your leadership in 

obtaining passage last year of comprehensive food safety legislation. We are hopeful that 

Congress will soon send legislation to the President for his signature. 

FDA is the federal agency that is responsible for most of the U.S. food supply, except for meat, 

poultry, and processed egg products, which are overseen by our partners at the U.S. Department 

of Agriculture (USDA). While the production of eggs and egg-based products can involve many 

steps, different parts of the federal government work together in the effort to make sure the eggs 

and egg products that reach our tables are safe to eat. With regard to eggs, FDA has primary 

responsibility for the parts of the continuum that involve the production and packaging of shell 

eggs, which includes the shell eggs involved in the recent SE outbreak. USDA has primary 

responsibility to inspect processed egg products to prevent the distribution into commerce of 

adulterated or misbranded egg products, to ensure proper disposition of restricted shell eggs, and 

to voluntarily grade and certify shell eggs for quality, weight, condition, and/or other factors. 

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We work closely with sister agencies, such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 

(CDC) in HHS and USDA; with state, local, tribal, and foreign officials; as well as with law 

enforcement and intelligence-gathering agencies, and with industry, consumer groups, and 

academia, to fulfill our mission to ensure the safety of FDA-regulated products. 

While the scale of this most recent outbreak and associated investigation and recall activities 

have been quite challenging, FDA has moved with a great sense of urgency to protect 

consumers. To provide an idea of the scale of the recall, more than 500 million shell eggs 

distributed by Wright County Egg and Hillandale Farms ofIowa have had to be recalled. 

According to CDC, from May 1 to August 31, 2010, approximately 1,519 illnesses were reported 

that are likely to be associated with this outbreak. That makes this the largest recorded SE 

outbreak reported since the start of outbreak surveillance in the early 1970s. 

In dealing with an outbreak situation, our mission is to track down the source of the 

contamination and get the affected product out of commerce as quickly as possible. We took 

action to alert consumers based on early indications that eggs were the likely source of 

contamination-before the first laboratory sample came back with a positive result for SE 

matching the outbreak strain. 

FDA also conducted extensive outreach to inform consumers about the outbreak associated with 

shell eggs, the recall, and the steps consumers should take to help reduce their risk. To help 

consumers fully understand the products involved in the recalls, FDA posted a complete list of 

the recalled brands and created a searchable database for these recalls on the Agency's website, 

wwwfda.gov. We also provided information on wwwfoodsafety.gov. In addition, FDA briefed 

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organizations representing consumers and industry as well as our federal and state partners. We 

responded to hundreds of media inquiries, conducted numerous media interviews, and, between 

August 23 and August 30, held three media briefings to ensure that the public was wellinformed. 

A recent poll shows that these efforts were successful in getting a clear message to the public. A 

national poll conducted on August 27-30, 2010, by researchers at Harvard School of Public 

Health found that 84 percent of those surveyed were aware of the outbreak. Nearly 

three-quarters of Americans surveyed reported that they have confidence in the way public 

health officials handled the outbreak. 

I would now like to provide a brief overview of FDA's activities to protect consumers by 

enhancing the safety of shell eggs and of the key events associated with this outbreak. In 

particular, I will describe FDA's egg safety regulation, which took effect for the biggest egg 

producers, on July 9, 2010, and our inspection plans to ensure compliance. We believe 

compliance vvith this regulation could prevent as many as 79,000 illnesses and 30 deaths per year 

due to SE. 

FDA'S EGG SAFETY EFFORTS 

Egg-associated illness caused by Salmonella is a serious public health problem. Healthy people 

infected with Salmonella often experience fever, diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, and abdominal pain. 

In rare circumstances, infection with Salmonella can result in the organism getting into the 

bloodstream and producing more severe illnesses such as arterial infections (infected 
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aneurysms), endocarditis, and arthritis. Salmonella can also cause serious and sometimes fatal 

infections in young children, frail or elderly people, and others with weakened immune systems. 

We expect that implementing preventive measures established by FDA's new egg rule will 

reduce the number of SE infections from eggs by nearly 60 percent. 

FDA has been concerned about egg safety for more than a decade and has worked hard to put 

into place preventive controls on farms that would prevent foodborne illness outbreaks, like the 

one recently associated with Wright County Egg and Hillandale Farms ofIowa. The egg safety 

regulation we published in July 2009 requires virtually all egg producers with 3,000 or more 

laying hens to implement measures designed to prevent SE contamination. The regulation 

became effective for the largest egg producers-those with 50,000 or more laying hens-on July 

9,2010. These producers account for about 80 percent of egg production. TIle requirements will 

become effective for smaller producers with at least 3,000 laying hens but fewer than 50,000 

laying hens by July 9, 2012. This rule is part ofa coordinated strategy between FDA and 

USDA's Food Safety and Inspection Service to ensure that egg safety measures are consistent, 

coordinated, and complementary. 

Among other things, the regulation requires egg producers to adopt preventive measures and to 

use refrigeration during egg storage and transportation. Specifically, under the rule, egg 

producers whose shell eggs are not processed with a treatment such as pasteurization must: 

• buy chicks and young hens only from suppliers who monitor for SE bacteria; 

• establish rodent, pest control, and biosecurity measures to prevent the spread of bacteria 

throughout the farm by people and equipment; 

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• conduct testing of the poultry house environment for SE. If the tests find the bacterium, a 

representative sample of the eggs must be tested over an eight-week time period (four 

tests at two-week intervals); if any of the four egg tests is positive, the producer must 

further process the eggs to destroy the bacteria, or divert the eggs to a non-food use; 

• clean and disinfect poultry houses that have tested positive for SE; and 

• refrigerate eggs at 45 degrees Fahrenheit during storage and transportation no later than 

36 hours after the eggs are laid (this requirement also applies to egg producers whose 

eggs receive a treatment, such as pasteurization). 

In addition, the rule requires egg producers to maintain a written SE prevention plan and records 

documenting their compliance. FDA has published draft guidance and intends to issue additional 

guidance to help egg producers comply with the rule. 

To ensure that important safety measures established by our egg safety rule are being 

implemented properly, FDA has announced a comprehensive inspection program. We plan to 

inspect all facilities now covered by the rule, which produce 80 percent of the country's eggs, to 

identifY potential problems before they cause illnesses. Over the next 15 months, our 

investigators and their partners at the state level will inspect about 600 egg producers-those 

with 50,000 or more laying hens-to determine if their facilities are in compliance with the egg 

safety requirements. 

As noted earlier, we expect that industry's compliance with this rule will significantly reduce the 

risk ofSE infections, preventing an estimated 79,000 cases of illness and 30 deaths per year. 

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Within weeks of the egg safety rule's becoming effective in July, we saw evidence of why this 

additional regulation is so badly needed. I would now like to walk through the key events of the 

investigation that led us to discover the sources of this outbreak. 

RESPONSE TO RECENT OUTBREAK 

The first phase of the outbreak response was the initial epidemiological investigation. In late 

July, CDC became aware of a four-fold increase in cases of Salmonella. CDC's consultation 

with states identified multiple investigations of restaurant -associated clusters of illnesses due to 

SE. Data from these investigations identified a range of theories for what could be behind the 

outbreak. One of these theories-but not the only one-was shell eggs. FDA was made aware 

of the scale of the situation and of these various hypotheses in late July. 

This began a second phase-narrowing down the suspects and identifying the source of the 

outbreak. During this phase, FDA, CDC, state departments of health, and others involved in 

outbreak response, worked together to rule out certain theories and track the eggs to their source. 

In late July and early August, FDA and CDC officials identified three clusters of illnesses with 

the strongest epidemiological connections to a common source of eggs. 

FDA initiated discussions with Wright County Egg in early August to relay that some 

information from these investigations suggested that Wright County Egg may be a common 

source of shell eggs in several clusters of illnesses and to begin collecting information. On 

August I I, although we did not have any confinnatory laboratory testing at the farms, FDA and 

CDC believed the evidence was clear enough to take action to protect the public, and we held 

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further discussions with Wright County Egg that resulted in the firm initiating a voluntary recall. 

Wright County Egg issued a press release to announce the recall on August 13. FDA posted this 

recall information on its website the same day. 

We then began a third phase of intensive on-site investigations at Wright County Egg and 

assessments of whether other egg farms or foods were implicated in the illnesses to be sure we 

were fully protecting the public. Based on further tracebacks of illness clusters and our 

investigation at the Wright County Egg farms, we found two other Wright County Egg layer 

facilities with shared feed and other common risk factors. This led FDA to immediately work 

with Wright County Egg to remove these shell eggs from distribution, resulting in additional 

recalls, which Wright County Egg announced on August 18. 

Shell eggs from Wright County Egg were sold to distributors and wholesalers in 22 states, who 

then distributed the shell eggs further throughout the country and to Mexico, the Bahamas, and 

the Turks and Caicos Islands. According to Wright County Egg, 380 million of their shell eggs 

are being recalled under many different brand names. 

Through additional traceback and FDA investigational findings, Hillandale Farms ofIowa was 

identified as another potential source of contaminated shell eggs contributing to the outbreak. 

On August 20, Hillandale Farms of Iowa initiated an additional recall of eggs that went to 

grocery stores, distributors, and wholesalers in 14 states; these entities then distributed the shell 

eggs further throughout the country. On August 20, FDA issued an alert to consumers about the 

Hillandale Farms recall. As we mentioned earlier, in all, more than 500 million shell eggs are 

now involved in these nationwide recalls. 

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FDA has conducted an extensive investigation at both Wright County Egg and at Hillandale 

Fanns ofIowa. The investigation involved a thorough assessment of compliance with the new 

egg safety rule, including an assessment of the operating conditions, an extensive review of 

records and procedures, and the collection of hundreds of environmental samples for FDA 

laboratory analysis. 

On August 27, FDA announced that multiple positive samples that match the DNA fingerprint of 

the outbreak strain ofSE had been collected from both Wright County Egg and Hillandale Fanns 

ofIowa. On August 30, FDA made its inspectional observations, also known as FDA 483s, 

available on our website and briefed the media on these observations. Our investigators found 

significant objectionable conditions observed at poultry houses, such as the presence oflive and 

dead flies that were too numerous to count, as well as maggots at Wright County Egg and live 

rodents and structural damage that allowed rodents, birds, and potentially other animals to enter 

poultry houses at both companies. 

FDA is continuing to evaluate information relating to conditions on the implicated egg farms, 

analyzing investigative samples, and ensuring that appropriate controls and corrections are fully 

established. All eggs being produced on the implicated fanns are being sent to facilities for 

treatment to destroy any SE that may be present. We also are monitoring the recall by 

conducting audit checks at consignees of the recalled shell eggs throughout the entire distribution 

chain, including, but not limited to, retailers, wholesalers, and distributors, to make sure the 

recalled shell eggs are being removed from the market. As of September 10, with assistance 

from state agencies, approximately 2,170 recall audit checks have been conducted. Although 

recall audit activities are continuing, the firms' recall efforts thus far appear to be effective in 

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removing recalled products from the market. FDA is also currently reviewing the findings of our 

investigation to evaluate what enforcement actions may be appropriate. 

NEED FOR COMPREHENSIVE FOOD SAFETY LEGISLATION 

The Administration, through the President's Food Safety Working Group, has highlighted the 

need to modernize our food safety laws to provide key tools for FDA to keep food safe. The 

legislation pending in Congress would transform our nation's approach to food safety from 

responding to outbreaks to preventing them. It would do so by holding companies accountable 

for understanding the risks to the food supply under their control and then implementing 

effective measures to prevent contamination. Although, with regard to eggs, FDA has issued 

requirements for egg producers to implement preventive measures, and FDA will be conducting 

inspections to ensure those measures are being implemented to protect consumers, such 

preventive controls are needed for other FDA-regulated foods as well. Such explicit authority to 

require preventive controls is a basic and critical component of an effective food safety system 

and is more efficient and effective than the current approach of addressing each commodity 

individually. 

Other key provisions included in the pending food safety legislation would give FDA better ways 

to more quickly trace back contaminated products to the source, the ability to check firms' safety 

records before problems occur, clear authority to require firms to identify and resolve food safety 

hazards, and resources to fund additional inspections and other oversight activities. Pending 

legislation would also give the Agency mandatory recall authority, and other strong enforcement 

tools, like new civil penalties and increased criminal penalties for companies that fail to comply 

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with safety requirements. The legislation also would strengthen FDA's ability to ensure the 

safety of imported food. 

There is broad bipartisan support in Congress for this legislation as well as broad support from 

the food industry and from consumer and public health organizations. We commend the House 

for passing a strong and comprehensive food safety bill and appreciate the hard work that has 

been done in the Senate. The stakes are too high to continue with the existing limitations in our 

food safety system. We hope this Congress will take the historic step of enacting comprehensive 

food safety legislation to give FDA the resources and tools necessary for a modernized food 

safety system. 

CONCLUSION 

In conclusion, FDA has worked closely with its food safety partners to quickly investigate this 

outbreak, contain it to prevent further illnesses, and provide timely and clear information for 

consumers. To help prevent future egg-related outbreaks, we will be carrying out a large-scale 

inspection program to ensure that the new requirements to adopt preventive measures to prevent 

SE are being implemented. Our efforts to ensure egg safety are one step in our ongoing work to 

carry out the recommendations of the President's Food Safety Working Group to upgrade our 

food safety system for the 21 st century by prioritizing prevention, strengthening surveillance and 

enforcement, and improving response and recovery. 

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While we have made great progress to improve the safety of our nation's food supply, the task 

ahead of us is equally great. I look forward to working with you to address both the issues raised 

today and any other matters of concern. 

Thank you again for the opportunity to discuss the recent SE outbreak. I would be happy to 

answer any questions. 

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Mr. STUPAK. Thank you, Doctor. 

I will begin with the questions. 

Salmonella Enteritidis is a major cause of food-borne illness in 

the United States. In fact, in your testimony you said 140,000 people become—Americans become sickened each year from it. And it 

is my understanding approximately 30 deaths per year are directly 

related to the consumption of eggs contaminated with Salmonella. 

My question—and, as we have heard today, Mr. Dingell started 

about 1990, where he had a Salmonella-in-eggs hearing with this 

committee. Mr. Braley mentioned the New York Times. You mentioned 1999, the FDA began to develop a rule. It is my understanding that the Clinton administration in 2000 put forth a proposed rule. And it is my understanding nothing happened until 

2004; then President Bush put forth a proposed rule. 

Then what happened between 2004 and July of 2010? Why did 

it take, if you will, 11 years to get a rule out on this? Did different 

administrations just abandon this effort? I mean, the Obama administration has been here since January of 2009, and you put out 

a proposed rule out in July of 2009, if I am—am I correct? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. That is correct. 

Mr. STUPAK. And then there is a year of comments and back-andforth, correct? Public comment? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. It was a year for implementation. I mean, we 

actually—I started at the very end of March as the acting commissioner, and by July we had issued the proposed rule. This was a 

very high priority for the administration. 

Mr. STUPAK. Do you know what happened, as you put forth the 

proposed rule in July of 2009, what happened between 2004—I understand President Bush put it forward—what happened between 

2004 and 2009? Five years we lost. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. You know, I wasn’t at the agency at that time. 

You know, there—— 

Mr. STUPAK. Could you have the agency put up a timeline and 

see what happened, starting back in 1999 when it was first proposed? Because, for a lot of people, it seems pretty preposterous 

that it takes us 11 years to put forth a rule. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Well, you know, I can tell you that some people 

who are career employees at FDA have been interviewed about 

that question. 

Mr. STUPAK. OK. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. And I will quote one, Bill Hubbard, who you 

may know—— 

Mr. STUPAK. Yes. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN [continuing]. Who has testified before the committee. And this is a direct quote from him, that ‘‘The FDA simply 

couldn’t get through to the White House. They were very hostile to 

regulation. I was told that each time FDA tried to get the rule 

cleared through OMB, the response was that there were, quote, 

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ulation was an evil that should be avoided unless there was a compelling argument for government action.’’ 

That was what Bill Hubbard stated. 

Mr. STUPAK. OK. I guess after today we have enough compelling 

arguments on why we need this final rule for eggs. 

But the final rule was put out July 9th, 2010, and it aims at reducing the amount of eggs contaminated with harmful Salmonella. 

The rule applies to egg producers with 3,000 or more egg-laying 

hens. This means both Hillandale Farm and Wright County Egg 

must comply with the new rules. 

In questions, both the gentlemen from Hillandale and DeCoster 

Farms knew about the new rule, but what do we need to implement this rule? 

I have a copy of the summary from the FDA on these two 

farms—or on these farms here that we have had the egg recall. 

Starting in September 4th, 2008, to June 12th, 2009, there were 

approximately 178 violations. After the rule was out, starting on 

July 31st, 2009, through July 26th, 2010, there’s 207 violations. 

So it looks like during this period of time when you had the proposed rule, it doesn’t look like these farms are trying to do anything to comply with the rule. We have actually increased Salmonella outbreaks after the rule has been proposed. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. You’re referring to their testing of Salmonella at 

the facility, I believe. 

Mr. STUPAK. Correct. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Those results were not disclosed to FDA. And, 

under our rule, if you get a contaminated finding in the facility, 

you have to go ahead and test the eggs. So there would be a different response to those findings under the rule. 

Mr. STUPAK. All right. So, underneath the proposed rule, or the 

final rule, I should say, if I have a positive test, I have to report 

it to the FDA. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. If you have a positive test as part of the testing 

procedure, it is, in fact, available to the FDA. 

Mr. STUPAK. But they would have to notify you, correct? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. I don’t—I’ll have to get back on whether they 

affirmatively notify us. I think—— 

Mr. STUPAK. All right. OK. Well, let me ask you this. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN [continuing]. It’s not reported to us, but it’s 

available to us. 

Mr. STUPAK. OK. Let me ask you this: How would the newly implemented egg rule—what does that really mean for the American 

consumer? What can we expect? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. It means a lot. Because it means that we can 

go now to all the major egg facilities and we can make sure that 

they have very important preventative safeguards in place, including an approach to rodents that keeps the rodents out of the eggs, 

an approach to general contamination, an approach to refrigeration, and an approach to testing, so that they can have confidence 

that the farms in the United States, as, you know, overseen by 

FDA with an independent look, are following things to prevent illness in the first place. 

Mr. STUPAK. OK. This final rule that’s now in place and has the 

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more egg-laying hens. How many farms is that in the United 

States? We have heard from two today, but how many are there? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. I know that there are about 600 that are 50,000 

or more. I think there are several thousand that are between 3,000 

and 50,000. We’d have to get the exact number to you. 

Mr. STUPAK. OK. 

My time has expired. Mr. Burgess for questions. 

Mr. BURGESS. Thank you, Dr. Sharfstein, for being here. 

So now you have the ability to inspect egg-producing facilities? 

Is that correct? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. That’s correct. 

Mr. BURGESS. And now, this—— 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Well—— 

Mr. BURGESS [continuing]. Just came under your jurisdiction in 

July? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. No. What started in July—— 

Mr. BURGESS. Well, let me ask you a question. Did you have the 

ability to do these egg inspections in 1999, 2004, 1990, all of these 

other dates that have been mentioned? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. FDA had jurisdiction over egg production farms, 

but we didn’t have these standards against which we could inspect. 

Mr. BURGESS. Were you prohibited from inspecting? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. No. 

Mr. BURGESS. Let me ask you this. And I guess you’ve already 

answered the question about how many egg production facilities 

are under your jurisdiction: 600 large-scale productions with greater than 50,000 hens. Now, over the last 5 years, could you give us 

a total number of inspections that have been done? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. We have been in some of these facilities because 

of outbreaks. And we could give you the number of inspections, but 

we have not done general inspections. And I think that there are 

two reasons for that. 

Mr. BURGESS. OK. The number of general inspections, then, 

would be zero. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. I don’t believe we did any inspections 

proactively. 

Mr. BURGESS. OK. I am just trying to ascertain. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Sure. 

Mr. BURGESS. You know, it’s come up to us in newspaper articles, 

the DeCosters, they’ve kind of attracted some attention in the past. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Uh-huh. 

Mr. BURGESS. Why wouldn’t you look? Well, actually—and Bob 

Latta brought it up a moment ago—you had a companion agency 

on the street, in the henhouse, if you will. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Right. 

Mr. BURGESS. Did they not see an 8-foot-tall pile of manure? Did 

they not see a door that was broken down with a manure pile 

pushing outside? What do they look at while they’re there, just the 

size of the egg and whether it’s grade A? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Well, I can’t speak for USDA. But, you know, 

there are—so it may be better—— 

Mr. BURGESS. On an issue that’s so important and sickened so 

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nication between a Federal agency under the USDA and the Food 

and Drug Administration? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. FDA has been very concerned about this potential risk. That’s why FDA fought to put this rule—— 

Mr. BURGESS. Obviously not enough. If the USDA is not—I 

mean, an 8-foot pile of—I mean, we showed the pictures. That’s got 

to get your attention. I mean, I know you’re just there to measure 

with a little micrometer the diameter of the egg. But, holy cow, 

how do you just not notice that? And if you know this is a highrisk food and a high-risk practice and the DeCosters kind of have 

a history, why wouldn’t someone say something? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Well, I—— 

Mr. BURGESS. OK. We’ve got a food-safety bill—we have got a 

food-safety bill that’s over in the Senate. And we’ve heard all kinds 

of stuff today about the problems. I supported the food-safety bill. 

I worked on it. I tried to amend it, I tried to make it a better product. Ultimately, it wasn’t perfect, but I voted for it, both in committee and on the floor of the House. 

But, really, what did you have in that bill that you didn’t already 

have? I mean, the recall—we heard the DeCosters testify. The 

minute the recall was suggested to them, boom, they flipped the 

switch, they recalled the eggs. So it wasn’t like you had to go to 

court to get a court order to do it. They voluntarily did that. 

So, all right, we’re going to have a mandatory recall with the 

new bill. That’s great. But it didn’t affect the outcome here. What 

would have affected the outcome here is if one Federal agency had 

used common sense and talked to another Federal agency. How do 

we legislate that between the FDA and the USDA? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. FDA and USDA are working on improving communication. But I think the—from my perspective, this rule is 

what gives FDA the ability to be at these facilities, inspecting for 

prevention. And the law allows us to make those inspections— 

would allow us to make those inspections as effective as possible. 

Mr. BURGESS. My time is very short. Let me ask you a question 

about the law. You brought it up yourself; you talked about civil 

and criminal culpability. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Right. 

Mr. BURGESS. Is there criminal—is there the ability to bring 

criminal charges against one of these producers now, if the conditions are found to be so egregious that they should have been 

stopped? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Yes. There would be enhanced criminal penalties under the bill. 

Mr. BURGESS. But criminal penalties exist today. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Right. 

Mr. BURGESS. Nothing is stopping you or nothing is preventing 

the Department of Justice from pursuing this if they decide to do 

so. 

It’s unusual to have Salmonella inside the egg, isn’t it? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Not at this facility, I don’t think. 

Mr. BURGESS. But just in general. Now, would there be any way 

the consumer would know? I mean, if you’ve got a rotten egg, we 

all know, you crack a rotten egg and it would be trouble. But this 

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Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Correct. Correct. 

Mr. BURGESS. Have there been any other cases where Salmonella 

has occurred inside—in any other of the food recalls, the egg recalls 

that the FDA has overseen, have there been issues with Salmonella 

internal to the egg? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Absolutely. 

Mr. BURGESS. So do you have—you have other studies that you 

have done where you can compare and contrast what you’re doing 

now with what has happened in the past? And I’d appreciate if you 

would provide that to us. And I will provide that question in writing. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. I think this is a known risk, and that’s why 

FDA has fought so hard to—— 

Mr. BURGESS. But, generally, it’s on the outside of the egg, not 

internal to the egg. So I’d just like an accounting of where the FDA 

has been in the past with this. 

Finally, let me just ask you—you said you started in March of 

2009. I appreciated the kindness you showed me when I went out 

for a tour of your facility. That’s 18 months. So when can we expect, under your tenure—and I’m sorry we don’t have the CEO of 

the FDA here today—but under your tenure, when can we expect 

this to be better? You’ve had 18 months. You’ve known it’s a problem. When is it going to improve? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. I believe that we’re in a position, through these 

inspections, to inspect the facilities that produce 80 percent of the 

eggs by the end of fiscal year 2011. And I believe, as we do that 

and we assure under the rule that we put into place very quickly 

in the Obama administration, we will be able to feel a lot more confident about the conditions under which the vast majority of eggs 

are produced. 

Mr. BURGESS. So we won’t be back here next—— 

Mr. STUPAK. The gentleman’s time has expired. 

Mr. Waxman for questions, please. 

Mr. WAXMAN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

Dr. Sharfstein, it seems to me you have had a number of problems. You didn’t have this egg rule in place. It’s now in place. Can 

you tell us succinctly what it will do to help FDA prevent this problem in the future? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Sure. 

The egg rule requires certain types of preventive measures that 

keep Salmonella from getting in the eggs. And these include standards around rodent control, it includes standards around refrigeration, and it includes testing protocols, because Salmonella does, 

even in the best-managed facilities, get in, but you’ve got to identify it quickly and control it. So those are three examples. 

And the firms must have their own plan, and they must keep to 

the plan. And by being able to inspect against the plan, we can 

have a high level of assurance that we will not see these situations 

again. 

Mr. WAXMAN. Then why do we need the law to be changed as per 

the House-passed bill on food safety? How will that help you? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. It will help—we are looking at 600 inspections 

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penalties, we have limited criminal penalties. There are a number 

of things that will directly help us in this task of inspecting the 

other 600 facilities that we would like to inspect by the end of fiscal 

year 2011. 

And then, of course, the bill goes far beyond just eggs. And there 

are other products out there where there are not standards, and we 

don’t want to spend a decade putting those standards into place. 

We want preventive standards in place much faster for other products so we are not back here every 6 months, as the committee has 

noted, talking about another major food recall. 

Mr. WAXMAN. Mr. Burgess seemed to—in the way he asked the 

question, I got the sense he was saying you don’t really need this 

law because you have a lot of authority now. 

Can you demand a recall, or do you have to rely on the company 

to voluntarily recall a product? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Well, I appreciate that Congressman Burgess 

supports the bill. 

Mr. WAXMAN. Yes, he does. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. And I think that, right now, we cannot demand 

a recall. It has to be voluntary. And I do think, you know, in this 

case we are very pleased that, as soon as we recommended a recall, 

you know, even before we had confirmatory lab testing, the company did it. 

But we have 600 to go. And if we wind up in prolonged court battles with some of those companies, we don’t know what could happen. It is much better, if we need to protect the public, for us to 

be able to order a recall. 

Mr. WAXMAN. How about penalties? If you find that some companies have been acting inappropriately—and, obviously, penalties 

deter for the future—what can you do now? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Now? There are certain types of criminal penalties, but it requires, you know, very—and, actually, I could get 

you the exact penalties. But it obviously requires a big investigation to get there. We do not have the authority to assess civil 

money penalties, which the bill would give us. 

So it would be a much more flexible type of tool, much more— 

give us stronger teeth for what we want to do to protect the public 

via prevention-oriented inspections. 

Mr. WAXMAN. Well, that’s civil penalties. How about criminal 

penalties? If you have a company that, over a 30-year period, constantly gets into trouble because they have Salmonella in, let’s say, 

eggs, and they have been assessed civil money penalties, they’ve 

been told by the States they can’t sell their eggs in the States— 

certain States any longer, what more can you say if they continue 

to act in a way that causes this problem to reoccur? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Well, criminal penalties are, you know, an option available to the agency, and they would be strengthened under 

the bill. 

Mr. WAXMAN. Under the bill. But right now, do you have to go 

to the Justice Department? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Correct. 

Mr. WAXMAN. And has the Justice Department ever sought criminal penalties, to your knowledge, against a food processor or food 

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Dr. SHARFSTEIN. I’d have to get back to you. 

Mr. WAXMAN. OK. It seems to me, to my recollection, it’s very, 

very unlikely. And because it’s so difficult to go to court and prove 

these cases, they usually settle with some slap on the wrist. 

I guess my time has expired. 

Do you feel that the FDA is now in a position to do more because 

of the rule that’s finally in place, but with the food-safety legislation that passed the House, overwhelmingly, on a bipartisan basis, 

that will give you the additional tools, resources, and additional 

legal tools to make sure this whole thing will work and we’re not 

going to have hearing after hearing on Salmonella in peanut butter, eggs, spinach, or whatever? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Here’s my bottom line: We need this bill. We 

need this bill to protect the safety of the food supply. We need this 

bill to help us prevent another egg outbreak just like the one that 

we’ve experienced and the one that we heard from the earlier witnesses that devastated their lives. 

Mr. WAXMAN. Thank you. 

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

Mr. STUPAK. Ms. DeGette for questions, please. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

Dr. Sharfstein, I want to talk to you about both preventing foodborne illnesses and then also quickly identifying them and removing them. Obviously, it’s in all of our interest to prevent these illnesses from occurring in the first place, and I think that would be 

your top priority, as well. Is that the main focus of the new egg 

rule, as well? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Correct. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Preventing the salmonella from getting in the 

eggs. 

And, by the way, I just wanted to clarify, it is not uncommon for 

Salmonella to be inside the eggs, correct? It’s not just on the shell 

of the eggs. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Yes, I think it’s well-understood that one of the 

major routes of transmission is through the chicken into the egg. 

Ms. DEGETTE. OK. 

And so, one thing that struck me with the previous panel testifying is they said they think it’s—despite all of the other issues, 

the large piles of manure, et cetera, they think it is in part because 

of contaminated feed. Do these new egg rules address the feed 

issue? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. The new egg rules do help with the feed issue. 

But let me say that FDA has not reached this conclusion that you 

heard earlier from—— 

Ms. DEGETTE. Right. I understand that. But it would seem to 

me, no matter what the source of the Salmonella inside the egg 

was, be it the manure or the rodents or anything like that, whatever source it would be, if you’re testing the eggs, you should be 

able to identify that they are contaminated, and then you wouldn’t 

send them out, right? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. That’s correct. 

Ms. DEGETTE. So the testing is a big part of it. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. That’s correct. And it’s the responsibility of the 

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Ms. DEGETTE. Right. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN [continuing]. From whatever source. And then, 

when they find the contamination, take action to control it. 

Ms. DEGETTE. And then go back and figure out what caused it 

and remove that, correct? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Exactly. Exactly. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Now, the second thing I wanted to ask you is, does 

the FDA currently, if the Senate does not pass the food-safety bill, 

have the resources to do all the inspections that are going to be 

needed under these new egg rules? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. You know, as you know, FDA has been significantly strapped for resources. And, you know, you should know 

there are 150,000 or so domestic food facilities, and FDA does 

about 18,000 food inspections every year. We are prioritizing under 

the rule these egg facilities, so we will do them. But the legislation, 

which gives us additional resources as well as additional tools, will 

make a tremendous difference in FDA’s ability to prevent future 

outbreaks. 

Ms. DEGETTE. And to inspect these facilities, correct? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. And to do all the inspections we are expected 

to do. 

Ms. DEGETTE. OK. 

Let me talk to you for a minute about, then, after there is contamination, after the contaminated food leaves. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Sure. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Chairman Waxman talked to you about mandatory recall authority. And, as you pointed out, in this case, the company did, when told, voluntarily recall the eggs. But that is not always the case, is it? 

For example, the peanut butter outbreak, where the company resisted recalling the contaminated peanut butter for quite some time 

and the government didn’t really have the authority to do anything, correct? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. I can tell you there have been, definitely, instances where there’s been some tension between FDA and firms 

over doing a recall. 

Ms. DEGETTE. And just the threat of a mandatory recall might 

make a firm hop to and recall tainted food even on their own before 

the FDA had to exercise that mandatory recall authority. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. And FDA would intend to be extremely reasonable about using this because we understand, you know, that companies could be worried. We would be reasonable. But, yes, we 

would very much like to have that ability. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Let me talk to you about another issue that I care 

a lot about, because I worked hard to include it in the food-safety 

bill, and that is the traceability provisions. 

On our first panel, one of the witnesses said, part of the problem 

is there’s a lot of food on the plate and we have to identify which 

of the foods is contaminated and where it came from. 

But having traceability for all of those food systems, that’s interoperable—not necessarily the same traceability system, but systems that are interoperable, that would help the FDA more quickly 

identify the source of the contamination, wouldn’t it? 

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Ms. DEGETTE. And that’s something that the FDA doesn’t have 

the ability to order right now under current law, correct? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. That’s correct. 

Ms. DEGETTE. So the food-safety bill would really help once—if 

there was food that was contaminated, it would help identify the 

source much more quickly and enable that recall to happen so further people aren’t sickened. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. That’s an extremely good point. I’ve spoken 

about the enforcement provisions of the bill, I’ve spoken about the 

prevention provisions of the bill—— 

Ms. DEGETTE. Correct. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN [continuing]. But the trace-back provisions are 

very important also. 

Ms. DEGETTE. Thank you. 

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I yield back. 

Mr. STUPAK. Thank you, Ms. DeGette. 

Mr. Braley for questions, please. 

Mr. BRALEY. Dr. Sharfstein, welcome. 

I have a very significant constituent who lives and farms in New 

Hartford, Iowa, and he has made an important statement about 

these egg recalls I want to read to you. 

‘‘The recent egg recalls have troubled consumers and weakened 

confidence in our Nation’s food supply. When Americans visit their 

local grocery store, they should be able to trust that the food they 

are purchasing to feed their family is safe to consume.’’ 

That was a statement that Senator Grassley made in a letter to 

USDA Secretary Tom Vilsack, our former Governor. 

Do you agree with that statement? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Yes. 

Mr. BRALEY. Now, one of the concerns that we have is that, right 

now, among the 50 States and the Federal Government, there is 

this hodgepodge of State requirements that relate to the production 

of eggs that may vary from State to State, and yet those individual 

State enforcement activities are part of this complementary network of food-safety enforcement that we have in this country. 

And I would like you to share with us your opinion as to whether 

we can continue to rely on a system where one State’s requirements may have lower thresholds of food safety, which then goes 

into a stream of commerce and goes around the country to other 

States, and whether we can continue to afford that type of enforcement system, given the problems identified with this egg recall. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. I would say that our goal is an integrated Federal food-safety system where we are working with our partners at 

the State and local level off the same playbook. And there has been 

a tremendous amount of work at FDA to move this forward. There 

was recently 50 State meetings where we discussed what this system would look like. And the legislation would propel that forward 

in a number of ways. 

So our goal is for there to be a clear standard across the country 

and for the States and localities and the Federal Government to be 

in much greater sync than they are today. 

Mr. BRALEY. What were some of the breakdowns that led to this 

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Dr. SHARFSTEIN. I’m not sure that I would describe it as breakdown between the State officials and the FDA. I think that what 

FDA recognized is the importance of having clear, prevention-oriented standards that then could be inspected against. 

And, you know, that’s why very shortly after, you know, I started 

at FDA and the administration’s Food Safety Working Group came 

together, the administration prioritized getting this egg safety rule 

out, having a period implementation, and getting it going as quickly as possible. 

So our focus is on getting that in place. And that gives us a 

basis, the foundation to really work closely with States and localities around clear standards. What the bill would give us is the 

ability to do that in other areas to reasonable standards, integrated 

with States and localities, to prevent illness. 

Mr. BRALEY. And I want to talk about why this is so important. 

We know that, every year, there are about 5,000 deaths related to 

food-borne illness in this country. Isn’t that correct? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. That’s correct. 

Mr. BRALEY. And, every year, there are approximately 325,000 

hospitalizations in this country related to food-borne illnesses. And 

we heard from witnesses here today about how devastating that 

can be to their quality of life. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. That’s right. And, as a physician, I have taken 

care of patients who have died from food-borne illness. 

Mr. BRALEY. So the other thing that we know about the bill that 

we passed in the House is that there is a cost-sharing that goes 

along with this responsibility and that most of the cost associated 

with the enforcement, under the food-safety bill we passed, would 

be the result of fees in the food industry. Is that correct? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. That’s correct. 

Mr. BRALEY. And so, haven’t these hearings that we’ve been 

holding in this committee, haven’t they demonstrated why it’s so 

important to save these lives and keep people out of the hospital 

by making food safety a higher priority in this country? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Yes, I think that the work that the committee 

has done in this area is extremely important. And we really do appreciate the bipartisan support that this bill has gotten. 

Mr. BRALEY. Thank you. That’s all. 

Mr. STUPAK. Thank you, Mr. Braley. 

Mr. Markey for questions. 

Mr. MARKEY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, very much. 

As you know, Mr. DeCoster, whose Iowa facility has been implicated in this outbreak, is also tied to a number of egg-processing 

businesses in Maine. Some of these businesses may merely rent 

land from Mr. DeCoster, while others may have closer ties, like 

purchasing chicken feed from other facilities that Mr. DeCoster 

runs. 

As I am sure you know, facilities owned and operated by Mr. 

DeCoster in Maine have a long history of public health, environment, worker abuses and animal cruelty violations. 

So, just to be clear, have there been any recent Salmonella infections that were later linked to eggs or facilities from New England? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Not that I am aware of, but we’ll get back to 

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Mr. MARKEY. OK. Thank you. I think that’s important for us to 

know. To the best of my knowledge, the answer is no, but I think 

we should nail that down so that residents of Massachusetts or 

other New England States are not concerned. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Well, let me say this. I think, in the past, we 

have measured success or failure just by an outbreak. But the way 

we’re looking at it now is, we would like to have the assurance that 

there is good preventive—— 

Mr. MARKEY. Great. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN [continuing]. Controls in place. And one of our 

priorities in doing these inspections is really getting that assurance. So not just that there isn’t a massive outbreak, but that 

there’s actually prevention-oriented standards. 

And in picking which firms and which places to go, where to look 

first, we are going to be prioritizing companies that have had problems in the past. We will be reaching out to other agencies, and 

we’ve been working with OSHA, for example, to identify if there 

are findings that other agencies have had. We have had an agreement with USDA that we will be learning from their inspectors. So 

we intend to use all the information at our disposal to prioritize 

which companies need an FDA visit quickly. 

Mr. MARKEY. So, just to go from the general to the specific, because I appreciate the direction in which the FDA is heading, so 

you plan to prioritize your inspections so that you start with the 

riskiest facilities, like those in Maine or other States that have a 

history of violations or those that buy feed or chicks from companies like Mr. DeCoster or other repeat violators who own or operate. Is that correct? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Right. We will be using a wide variety of data, 

including information from other agencies like USDA and OSHA, 

to help us prioritize the highest-risk facilities. 

Mr. MARKEY. So, just to take it one step further, the Nuclear 

Regulatory Commission gears its inspection regime towards those 

who have had the longest history of violations. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Right. 

Mr. MARKEY. You intend on doing the same thing? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Absolutely. 

Mr. MARKEY. And this Maine facility falls into that category? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. You know, I couldn’t specifically talk about a 

specific facility, but I can tell you we will look at not only the history of facilities but corporate issues. If we have concerns about a 

particular owner, for example, that makes us think that other 

farms could have a problem, that will influence our prioritization. 

Mr. MARKEY. But if it is amongst the greatest violators, then 

that’s where you’re most likely to be going first? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. That’s correct, yes. 

Mr. MARKEY. OK. Good. So that’s an important—and you can 

hear a sigh of relief going on all over New England right now because of the record there. And, again, right now there is no evidence, but we want to make sure that we go in to get the answers 

as quickly as possible. 

The gentleman who testified here today, or did not testify here 

today, Mr. DeCoster, clearly has no regard for regulations until the 

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refrain that we hear from people who get sworn in to testify at that 

table. You know, we went from BP to Salmonella, and it’s a long 

history of witnesses at that table, and they’re always then quite 

concerned that their actions have been misunderstood. 

Do you think that you can, under your current regulations, guarantee that habitual violators like Mr. DeCoster can be quickly 

caught and held accountable? 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Well, what I testified to is that we are going to 

go out to these 600 facilities, but our tools, what we can do when 

we get there, are limited; and that the legislation that is pending 

would be extremely helpful for us to do the job well, because it 

would give us a whole other series of tools to enforce the law. 

Mr. MARKEY. Thank you. Thank you for your service. Welcome 

back to our committee. 

Dr. SHARFSTEIN. Thank you. 

Mr. MARKEY. And thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate it. 

Mr. STUPAK. Thank you, Mr. Markey. 

That concludes all questioning. 

And thank you, Dr. Sharfstein, for being here. 

And I want to thank all witnesses for coming today and for their 

testimony. 

The committee rules provide that Members have 10 days to submit additional questions for the record to witnesses. I ask unanimous consent that the contents of our document binder be entered 

into the record, provided that committee staff may redact any information that is business proprietary, relates to privacy concerns, or 

is law enforcement-sensitive. Without objection, documents will be 

entered. 

That concludes our hearing. This meeting of the subcommittee is 

adjourned. 

[Whereupon, at 3:30 p.m., the subcommittee was adjourned.] 

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Statement of 

the Honorable John D. Dingell 

Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Hearing on "The 

Outbreak of Salmonella in Eggs" 

September 22, 2010 

Mr. Chainnan. Thank you for holding this important hearing. 

On August 13, American consumers were notified of a recall of shell eggs 

thought to be the cause of a Salmonella outbreak. This recall was later expanded 

and a second recall followed shortly thereafter. The news of the outbreak, and 

subsequent recalls, while serious, unfortunately came as no surprise. Over the past 

few years, we have had problems related to peanuts, spinach, infant fonnula, and 

peppers. In most instances, incompetence and neglect was the cause. 

This hearing is the latest in the series of hearings this subcommittee has held 

on the crisis facing our food supply. I commend you Mr. Chainnan for your 

persistence. It has been a pleasure to work with you. Our investigative work over 

the years laid the foundation for H.R. 2749, the Food Safety Enhancement Actcomprehensive food safety legislation which passed the House in July 2010. I am 

proud of the work the Members of this Committee has done to produce legislation 

that will substantially address our food safety concerns. Now if we can only 

address the damnable United States Senate. 

The facts surrounding this outbreak are particularly disturbing. FDA 

inspectors observed: 
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• Barns were infested with flies, maggots and scurrying rodents; 

• Manure piled four to eight feet high in certain areas; 

• Leaking manure pits; 

• Employees working without protective clothing; and 

• Un-caged hens tracking manure from the manure pit to other areas of the 

operation. 

Conditions like these should not be tolerated in any respectable 

establishment. To add insult to injury, according to FDA's inspection reports, 

there were plans in place to deal with these issues. I can't comment on their 

adequacy. In spite of having written Salmonella prevention plans in place, these 

companies failed to fully implement them or follow them. In my opinion, this 

borders on negligence. 

Approximately 1,600 reported illnesses are likely to be associated with the 

inability of these companies to adequately ensure the safety of their operations. 

We do not know the extent of the financial impact this will have on the egg 

industry as a whole. 

Today's hearing will afford us the opportunity to ask some very important 

questions related to the outbreak: 

• Was Wright County Egg and Hillandale Farms management aware of the 

filthy conditions at their facilities? 

• If so, what steps were taken to address the concerns? 

• If not, what is the defense? 
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• Was there any formal or informal communication between USDA inspectors 

and FDA about the conditions at these facilities? 

• Considering the questionable history of the owners, why did FDA not have 

any inspectional history with either of these facilities prior to the outbreak? 

I look forward to honest answers to these and other questions from our 

witnesses. 

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back the balance of my time. 
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Binder Contents 

-Email from Orland Bethel to John Glessner, August 31, 2010 

-Email from Orland Bethel to John Glessner, August 30, 2010 

-Email from James Minkin to Gary Bethel, August 25,2010 

-Email from Gary Bartness to Orland Bethel, August 21,2010 

-Peanut Corporation of America Certificate of Achievement, August 20, 2008 

-EEmail from Charles Hofacre to Tony Wasmund, August 11,2010 

-Email from Charles Hofacre to Tony Wasmund, August 10,2010 

-Email from Ed Steinberger to Peter DeCoster, May 29,2010 

-Recognition of Achievement-Wright County Egg, June 2010 

-Quality Egg Mission Statement, April 8, 2010 
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From: 

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From: 9<:I~!llI 

Orland <obethel~( .,.'''''~" Tuesday. August 31, 20.l1o.S;.28.p.MIIi(o.M.T.). 

Gary Bethel <gbethel~ 

Fw;update 

sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 1:26 PM 

To:~ 

5ubject, Re: update 

John 

I am sure that you are aware that FDA hit New Hampton with a search warrant today. They have put our 

people In Isolation, not allowing company phone use. They have a search warrant for all records. They are 

looking for all production records. contracts, corporate structures and records as well as all communication 

records. We have given them a free hand at this point. We are trying to stay away from questions and 

answers until an attorney is present. 

I looked at your outline and It seems to have merit if it makes sense to all parties 

Hillanda!e needs to get off the defensive and state what they are going to do. 

Hillanda!e needs to totally disassociate Itself from Jack and It has to be real. 

Hillandale has a good business base but it will all be gone If I don't move qulck.ly and I will not try to deceive 

the public 

I need to talk directly with you to explore what you have in mind and to see jf we are on the same page 

We are on more pressure today than before from the business community and I must have a plan 

Give me a call 

Orland 

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From: Orland 

Orland <obethel@l ...... .. 

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Fw: perception 

Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 2:45 PM 

To: John Glessn.er 

Subject: perception 

John 

What is the status of Ohio Fresh Eggs and Jack De Coster. Unfortunately Hillandale Farms can have 

absolutely no association with Jack, anywhere. We will move in another direction in Ohio if we can not get 

it officialy done. We have to be able to say how it is with no half truths. I will be happy to try and help 

make it happen, It seems that if was Glessner and Hillandale that we could tell the world our customer base 

would embrace us. 

WE are not sure how we want to proceed in Iowa as we have been told by Costo and Wal Mart that they 

will not be doing any business if Jack and his people have any involvement in management or ownership, 

What is the latest in Iowa? Give me the good and the bad 

Orland 

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From: 

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To: 

James Minkin ~sn.com> Wednesday, August 25; 2010 II :30 AM (GMT) 

Gary Email <gbethel@ 

Subject: Fw: Recall/Outbreak [Wright County Egg - UD #20]: SupplierNamed:DeCosters 

'Quality Egg' supplies young chickens and feed toboth WrightCounty Egg and Hillandale 

Farms 

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T 

----Original 

From: Jeff Martin 

Date: Wed, 25 Aug .12 

To: §:1msn.com> 

Subject: RE: Recall/Outbreak [Wright County Egg - UD #20): Supplier 

Named:DeCoster's 'Quality Egg' supplies young chickens and feed to 

bothWrightCounty Egg and Hillandale Farms 

James, 

You should forward this to Gary 

Jeff 

Subject: Fw: [Wright County Egg - UD #20]: Supplier Named:DeCoster's 

'Quality Egg' supplies young chickens and feed to bothWrightCounty Egg and Hillandale 

Farms 

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T 

-----Original Message---- From: Robert D Fraooi,er" __ 

Date: 

To: 

- UD #20]: Supplier Named: 

DeCoster's 'Quality Egg' supplies young chickens and feed to both 

WrightCounty Egg and Hillandale Farms 

To: Jim Minkin, Nearby Eggs 

Paul Gabriel, Hillandale 

This is not good news that you have sourced brown eggs from Quality Eggs August 5 & 6. 

We have been very careful to deal with suppliers that adhere to our strict food safety and 

animal welfare criteria. Please provide documentation for the food safety & animal welfare 

audits for Quality Eggs. Further provide more detailed SE monitoring for chicks, pullets, the 

environment, and laying hens as well as your criteria for finding positive SE in the 

environment which should lead to the monitOring of SE in eggs. 

Our expectation is to have this documentation for your facilities and Quality Eggs. Advise 

further of the third party lab used for the testing. 

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Additionally please provide details on the brown eggs shipped from Quality Eggs ie item, 

UPC's, and lot codes. 

Sent using BlackBerry 

----- Original Message ----

From: "James Minkin" ~msn.com] 

Sent: 08/25/2010 12:2~ To: Robert Frappier; "Paul Gabriel- Email ........ ~embarqmail.com> Cc: George Sherback 

Subject: Re: RecalllOutbreak [Wright County Egg - UD #20]: Supplier Named: DeCoster's 

'Quality Egg' supplies young chickens and feed to both WrightCounty Egg and Hillandale 

Farms 

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Bob, Paul Gabriel pointed out that I was incorrect in my statement below. On Aug 5 and Aug 

6 we received two loads of brown eggs from Quality egg of Maine. We did not receive any 

eggs from Wright County or any other Iowa Farm Sorry for any confusion James Minkin -----

---- From: James Minkin To: Robert D Frappier; 

11) Cc: 

8:11 AM Subject: Re: 

DeCoster's 'Quality Egg' 

supplies young chickens and feed to both Egg and Hillandale Farms None of 

the eggs that any of your location receive are part of the recall In pa we get no eggs from 

quality eggs or wright via BlackBerry by AT&T --Original Message---

From: Robert D Date: M~"t23;U9:010 12:09:09 __ Blh,otrnail.com>; 

Sub) ct: w: ecalllOutbreak 

. DeCoster's 'Quality Egg' supplies young 

Hillandale Farms To: James Minkin, 

Nearby Eggs Jeff Martin, Operations, Farms Paul Gabriel, Hillandale Farms 

Immediate Response Requested We have a major concern from senior management with 

regard to the supply chain and any relationship with Decoster and/or quality eggs. Please 

advise if any Ahold USA Corporate Brand Eggs are sourced from Decoster owned facility or 

Assurance AUSA COfDorarF:~a_n .. 

----- Forwarded by Robert D 

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--··-··-·-·-------·-1 WASHINGTON -- Two Iowa II farms that together II recalled more than 

half a II billion potentially 11 tainted eggs this month II share close ties, II including suppliers 

of II chickens and feed. 1111 Both farms are linked to II businessman Austin "Jack" II 

DeCoster, who has been II cited for numerous health, II safety and employment II violations 

over the years. II DeCoster owns Wright II County Egg, the original I I farm that recalled 380 

II million eggs Aug. 13 after II they were linked to more II than 1,000 reported cases II of 

salmonella poisoning. 1111 Another of his companies, II Quality Egg, supplies II young 

chickens and feed to 11 both Wright County Egg and 11 Hillandale Farms, the 11 second farm 

that recalled II another 170 million eggs a II week later. 1111 Jewanna Porter, a II 

spokeswoman for the egg II industry, said the two II companies share other II suppliers as 

well, but she II did not name them. 1111 The cause of the outbreaks II is so far unknown, as 

Food II and Drug Administration II investigators are still on II the ground at the farms II 

trying to figure it out. II The federal Centers for II Disease Control has said II the number of 

illnesses, II estimated as high as 111,300, would likely grow. II •••• lilt is unclear what role I 

I DeCoster's company played II in the current salmonella II outbreak. The FDA II 

investigation could take II months, and sources of II contamination are often II difficult to 

find. The II current recall goes back II to April, and many of the II eggs have already been II 

consumed. 1111 Still, DeCoster's Wright 11 County Egg is already II facing at least two II 

lawsuits related to the II egg recall. One is from II food distributor Dutch II Farms, which 

says the II company used unauthorized II cartons to package and II sell eggs under its 

brand II without its knowledge. 1111 The other is from a person 11 who said they became ill I 1 

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1 --··--·--··--·---------1 Iowa farms in egg recall I I have close ties II Associated Press - Aug 

22 II at 05:00 1111 MARY CLARE JALONICK, II Associated Press Writer 1111 

WASHINGTON .- Two Iowa II farms that together II recalled more than half a II billion 

potentially II tainted eggs this month II share close ties, II including suppliers of II chickens 

and feed. 1111 Both farms are linked to II businessman Austin "Jack" II DeCoster, who has 

been II cited for numerous health, II safety and employment II violations over the years. II 

DeCoster owns Wright 11 County Egg, the original I 1 farm that recalled 380 11 million eggs 

Aug. 13 after II they were linked to more II than 1,000 reported cases II of salmonella 

poisoning. 1111 Another of his companies, II Quality Egg, supplies II young chickens and 

feed to II both Wright County Egg and II Hillandale Farms, the II second farm that recalled II 

another 170 million eggs a II week later. 1111 Jewanna Porter, a II spokeswoman for the egg 

II industry, said the two II companies share other II suppliers as well, but she II did not 

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name them. 1111 The cause of the outbreaks II is so far unknown, as Food II and Drug 

Administration II investigators are still on II the ground at the farms II trying to figure it out. II 

The federal Centers for II Disease Control has said II the number of illnesses, II estimated 

as high as 111,300, would likely grow. 1111 DeCoster is no stranger to II controversy in his 

food II and farm operations:_ln 111997, DeCoster Egg Farms II agreed to pay $2 million II 

in fines to settle II citations brought in 1996 II for health and safety II violations at DeCoster's 

II farm in Turner, Maine. II Then-Labor Secretary II Robert Reich said II conditions were "as 

II dangerous and oppressive II as any sweatshop." He II cited unguarded machinery, II 

electrical hazards, II exposure to harmful II bacteria and other II unsanitary conditions. III L 

In 2000, Iowa designated II DeCoster a "habitual I I violator" of environmental I I regulations 

for problems II that included hog manure II runoff into waterways. The I I label made him 

subject to II increased penalties and II prohibited him from II building new farms. III L In 

2002, the federal II Equal Employment II Opportunity Commission II announced a more than 

$1.5 II million settlement of an II employment discrimination I I lawsuit against DeCoster II 

Farms on behalf of Mexican II women who reported they II were subjected to sexual I I 

harassment, including II rape, abuse and II retaliation by some II supervisory workers at II 

DeCoster's Wright County II plants. III L In 2007, 51 workers were II arrested during an II 

immigration raid at six II DeCoster egg farms. The II farm had been the subject II of at least 

three previous II raids. III I_In June 2010, Maine II Contract Farming_ the II successor 

company to II DeCoster Egg Farms_II agreed in state court to II pay $25,000 in penalties II 

and to make a one-time II payment of $100,000 to the II Maine Department of II Agriculture 

over animal II cruelty allegations that II were spurred by a II hidden-camera II investigation 

by an animal II welfare organization. III lit is unclear what role I I DeCoster's company 

played II in the current salmonella I I outbreak. The FDA II investigation could take II 

months, and sources of II contamination are often II difficult to find. The II current recall goes 

back II to April, and many of the II eggs have already been II consumed. 1111 Still, 

DeCoster's Wright II County Egg is already II facing at least two I I lawsuits related to the II 

egg recall. One is from II food distributor Dutch II Farms, which says the II company used 

unauthorized II cartons to package and II sell eggs under its brand II without its knowledge. I 

III The other is from a person II who said they became ill II after eating tainted eggs II in a 

salad at a restaurant II in Kenosha, Wis. 1111 The CDC said II investigations by 10 II states 

since April have II identified 26 cases where II more than one person II became ill. 

Preliminary II information showed that II Wright was the supplier in II at least 15 of those. III 

I Almost 2,000 illnesses II from the strain of II salmonella linked to both II recalls were 

reported II between May and July, II nearly 1,300 more than II usual, the CDC said. No II 

deaths have been reported. 1111 The most common symptoms II of salmonella are II 

diarrhea, abdominal cramps II and fever within eight II hours to 72 hours of II eating a 

contaminated II product. The disease can II be life-threatening, II especially to those with II 

weakened immune systems. 1111 Associated Press Writer I I Jeff Baenen in Minneapolis II 

contributed to this II report. I111 Online: Food and Drug II Administration: II 

http://tinyurl.com/250t6ss II Centers for Disease II Control: II http://tinyurl.com/27l1a8y II Egg 

Safety Center recall I I information: II http://www.eggsafety.org 1111 (c) 2010 The Associated I 

I Press. All rights II reserved. This material I I may not be published, II broadcast, rewritten or 

II redistributed. 111111 #### 111111111111 Related FoodTrack II Bulletin(s): 1111 Product 

Recall Bulletin I I 21-Aug-10 (C) II Saturday[Wright County Egg 11- UD #19111 Lucerne 

Foods Expands II Voluntary Recall of II Lucerne AA Large Eggs to II Include 5 Dozen Count 

II Packages Limited to 19 II California Safeway Stores 1111 Product Recall Bulletin 1121-

Aug-10 (B) II Saturday[Wright County Egg 11- UD #18111 NuCal Foods Conducts II Recall of 

Shell Eggs II Supplied from Hillandale II Farms of Iowa 1111 Product Recall Bulletin 1121-

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Aug-10 (A) II Saturday[Wright County Egg 11- UD #17] II Luberski Inc., Initiates II Voluntary 

Recall of Large II Fresh Shell Eggs 1111 Recall/Outbreak Bulletin II 20-Aug-10 (L) II Friday 

[Wright County Egg -II UD #16] II Recall- Affected Brands II and Descriptions 1111 

Recall/Outbreak Bulletin 1120-Aug-10 (K) II Friday[Wright County Egg -II UD #15] II CalMaine Foods, Inc. II Comments on Involvement in II Recently Expanded II Nationwide Shell 

Egg II Recalllill Product Recall Bulletin 1120-Aug-10 (G) II Friday[Wright County Egg -II 

UD #14] II Hillandale Farms of Iowa II Conducts Nationwide II Voluntary Recall of Shell I I 

Eggs 1111 Recall/Outbreak Bulletin 1120-Aug-10 (B) II Friday[Wright County Egg -II UD #131 

II PRESS RELEASE: Statement II Regarding The Recall Of II Sparboe Farms, Dean Foods 

II And Hillandale Farms Eggs 1111 Recall/Outbreak Bulletin 1120-Aug-10 (A) II Friday[Wright 

County Egg -II UD #1211 I Illnesses linked to eggs II will likely grow 1111 Product Recall 

Bulletin 1120-Aug-10 ( ) II Friday[Wright County Egg -II UD #11111 Lucerne Foods Updates I 

I Voluntary Recall of I I 12-Count and 18-Count II Cartons of Lucerne Grade II AA Eggs Sold 

in Safeway II Food & Drug Stores in II Seven States 1111 Recall/Outbreak Bulletin 1119-Aug10 (L) II Thursday[Wright County Egg 11- UD #10]11 FDA: Urgent Nationwide Egg II Recall I 

I Eggs in Their Shells May II Put Consumers at Risk for II Salmonella III I Recall/Outbreak 

Bulletin II 19-Aug-10 (K) Thursday II [Wright County Egg - UD II #9111 CDC: Investigation 

Update: II Multistate Outbreak of II Human Salmonella II Enteritidis Infections II Associated 

with Shell Eggs 1111 Product Recall Bulletin II 19-Aug-10 (J) Thursday II [Wright County Egg 

- UD II #8111 COUNTRY Eggs, Inc. II Initiates Voluntary Recall I I of Large AA Loose 15 

dozen II Fresh Shell Eggs 1111 Recall/Outbreak Bulletin 1118-Aug-10 (R) Wednesday II 

[Wright County Egg - UD I I #7111 Wright County Egg Expands II Nationwide Voluntary II 

Recall of Shell Eggs 1111 Recall/Outbreak Bulletin 1118-Aug-1 0 (Q) Wednesday II [Wright 

County Egg - UD II #6111 Egg recall tied to II salmonella grows to 380 II million 1111 Product 

Recall Bulletin II 18-Aug-10 (0) Wednesday II [Wright County Egg - UD II #5111 Egg Recall: 

Unauthorized II Packaging Leads to II Customer Misinformation 1111 Recall/Outbreak 

Bulletin II 17-Aug-10 (E) II Tuesday[Wright County Egg 11- UD #41111. Salmonella from 

tainted II eggs sickens 266 in Calif. II 2. 228M eggs recalled II following salmonella II 

outbreak 1111 Product Recall Bulletin II 17-Aug-10 (D) Tuesday II [Wright County Egg - UD I 

I #3111 NuCal Foods Conducts II Recall of Shell Eggs II Supplied from Wright II County Egg 

1111 Product Recall Bulletin 1116-Aug-10 (G) Monday II [Wright County Egg - UD II #2J II 

Lucerne Foods Voluntarily II Recalls 12-Count and II 18-Count Cartons of II Lucerne Eggs 

Sold in II Safeway Food & Drug Stores II in Seven States 1111 Recall/Outbreak Bulletin II 

16-Aug-10 (F) Monday II [Wright County Egg - UD II #1) II CDC: Investigation II 

Announcement: Mullistate II Outbreak of Human II Salmonella Enteritidis I I Infections 

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Subject: FW: Alden inspection summary 

Orland, 

Just for your information, Duane has just recently been allowed additional access and freedom to be involved with the 

decisions at Alden. The facility is over 20 years old and he has made great strides in the last 60 days. You have also 

possibly seen on the news how much rain we have had here in the last 30 days. 

Gary 

From: Duane Mangska_ 

Sent: Saturday, August, : To: Tony Wasmund 

Ce: John Glessner; Peter Decoster; Gary Bartness 

Subject: Alden inspection summary 

Tony, 

This is a summary of my notes taken during the FDA inspection al Alden. 

Bam I : Tighten back loadout door to make bird and rodent tight. commented house was in pretty good shape. 

Water standing by bId. need to reslope. Missing steel on outside, patch all holes in outside melal and cracks 

around all doors. 

Barn 2: depopulated, only comment was standing water on floor in front of pit. 

Barn 3: Found several dead chicken careess in cages. I put a man on that immediately.Holeslgaps around doors 

need sealing. 

Bam 4: Everything good inside. Holes in sheet metal on outside need patching/sealing. 

Bam 5: Empty cages have manure in them. One fan housing door was left open. Check outside seel for 

holes/gaps. 

Barn 6: Rear loadolll door has gaps around it make it seal. 

Bam 7: Put lids on tbe dead chicken barrels to reduce vector access. Water beside barn, needs resloping. 

Holes around fan banks and doors. 

Bam 8: Wet manure due to water leaks. Didn'l say it needed to be removed but they didn't like it. Tighten 

back loadout door. Water slanding beside building needs resloping.Lots of holes in outside metal especially by 

manure load out area. One fan grill off. Needed weeds trimmed around bId. 

Barn 9: some beelles along north wall. saw old dead birds in a few cages and old chicken heads on egg belts. I 

had someone take care of that right away. Hole under walkway and by front entry door. Manure loadout doors 

didn't close well. Concrete walls had major cracks in places. Flies on feed and egg belt. 

Bam 10: Construclion dumpster was full and was a harbor for rodents. Cover screener garbage can. sheet 

metal under loudou! door had holes from truck. Irash in grass between barns. saw a couple dead chickens in 

cages. I got on Oscar and Deigo to make the barn guys do better or we will replace them. All in all they 

thought the facility wasn't too bad. 

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Let me know how we will proceed to correct issues. Thanks! 

Duane 

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TOOY Wasmund 

From: 

Sent: 

To: 

Subject: 

Hi Tony, 

Charles L Hofacre 

Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:36 AM 

Tony Wasmund 

RE: Conferance call 

I think that Gerado has a master in poultry or animal husbandry all the rest I don't know about. 

Thanks, 

Chuck 

From: Tony 

Sent: Wednesday, 

To: Charles L 

Subject: cc:~~~;~~~""~111 Conferance 

Chuck, 

These are the people that were on the call. 

Tracy Duvernay 

Gerardo Ramirez 

Kevin T. Gerrity 

Ian T. Williams ( CDC) 

Susan Lance ( CDC) 

Katherine Vierk 

Nadine Johnson FDA 

Howard King Vinetta Deputy Director Office ofEmergency Operations, Office ofctisis Management Food and drug 

Administration. 

Tony Wasmund 

CONFlDfN {fA 
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Tony Wasmund 

From: 

Sent: 

To: 

Subject: 

Hi Tony, 

O.K. just keep in mind these folks know nothing about chickens, they may act like they do but all they know is what they 

read in articles. You may need to help educate many of them why we do certain things for example, we molt for 

Significant economic reasons and we stopped molting cost us??? Dollars but we did it because we feel that is the right 

thing to do once we realized we had SE ...• after we made the change to a lab that we felt was better .... 

Try to sleep well. 

Chuck 

From: 'wrightcountyegg.com [mailto 'wrlghtcountyegg.com] 

Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:37 PM 

To: Charles L Hofaae 

Subjec:t: Re: sel. strain 

That's all I have if I get more will email you. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry 

From: Charles 

To: Date: Tony_~ Wed~~,~l~~11 ;~~ ••• ~~;~otmt)'egl~.C()m> Subject: RE: sei. 

Hi Tony, 

I don't recognize any of the names of the folks that were on the to part of the e-mail. Do you have a full listing of 

them? I will try to find out more about this type of SE. 

Take care, 

Chuck 

From: Tony Wasmund [mailto 'wrlghtcountyegg.com] 

Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:44 PM 

To: Charles L Hofacre 

Subject: 501. strain 

Jegxo1.o004 This Is the name he gave me. 

I don't know what it means. 

Tony Wasmund 

Quam Ell L.l.C. 
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Tonr WamUnd 

From: 

Sen!: 

To: 

Cc: 

SUbJect: 

Hi Ed, 

Charles 

Tuesday, June 

Steinberger, Ed; Peter 

Wasmund, Tony; Honegger, Keith; Nletfek:l, Ronald 

Re: Farm Vaccination audits 

Thanks for the visit and that is fantastic to help keep things fine tuned. Peter, do you 

think if would be helpful if we have a daily QC form that the crew leader needs to fill in 

that he checks a certain number for wingweb takes, blue tongues and the proper placement of 

the vaccine in the breast maybe 3 or 4 times a day. That way we force them to check their 

people and gives you a check on them daily. Even if we make them COllIe back and do it over we have a group of pullets that have not been vaccinated properly and llight sUp through. 

Call me if you have any questions. 

Thanks, 

Chuck 

---- Original message 

>Date: Sat, 29 May 2919 98:54:46 -9499 

>From: ·Steinberger, Ed" sp. intervet. com> 

>Subject: Farm Vaccination audits 

>To: "Decoster, Pete~rightcountyegg.com> 

~!i!!~~!!~;~ii~iiii~ii~r~gg~htcountyegg.com>, : "Nietfeld, Ronald" 

peter; 

Thanks for allOWing Ron & I to visit to observe the 

vaccination procedures. 

> We first did a Coarse Spray vaccination at S weeks > using elonevac D-78, eombovac-39 & Mildvac-Ark. > Dustin did a very good job setting up the sprayer to 

> spray ( we did adjust the angle of the nozzle tips to get the spray to hit the pullets heads better) 

fans were shut off and the lights were initially 

dimmed then we shut them off to further calm the 

pullets. Dustin has a very nice pace that he walks 

when spraying. (He takes his time II 

Excellent II I). Only a little vaccine was left when 

the barn was sprayed. Dustin wanted to finish using 

the spray, but I recommended against that, the only 

times to finish using any left-over vaccine is when 

spraying MG or ISD by itself. 

Then we went to observe the crew Injecting 

layermune-3, Wing webbing Pox, and Eye Dropping LT. 

Each person was working by themselves doing all 3 

vaccinations. One person was using a hand syringe to leg inject in the drum stick ... he was doing a 

> very good job and had a very good system inject1ng a 

} cage of pullets in under 3 minutes. The other S 

people were using Blomune' s breast injector. One of 

••• @Sp.lntervet.com>, 

CONFIO[ 
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> the machines was not set up correctly. An 18 gauge > 3/4 inch needle needs to be used, this machine had > an 18 gauge 1/2 inch needle ••• Every bird was being > missed with the killed vaccinel!1 All of the oil > was on the feathers of the pullets - Showed this to > Chad, Dustin, and the crew leader for future 

reference. How long was the machine set up like 

this? Just that morning or days? How many birds were not vaccinated?? I'. not sure if they went 

back to inject them correctly. The people that we > timed using the machines to inject were vaccinating a cage in about 3.5 minutes. (we called Harlan 

Shafer ••• BVS does have the correct needles). The > wing web vaccinations were very good, most were in > the center of the wing web! Great! ! Eye Drop was > also being done very well, we checked for the 

staining of the tongue! Great! 

> 

> Then we proceeded to the Layers to pull blood for > serum submission. Train1ng Derrick Adams and making > sure that Chad & Dustin were proficient. Chad & > Dustin do a good job and Derrick picked it up very 

) well a1s01 

> 

> Thanks for allowing Chad to be with us during the > vaccinations! I This allowed me to explain to Chad > the spray vaccination procedures (What are we trying > to accomplish), and to review with Dustin at the > same time these procedures. 

> Thanks! II I 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

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COMMiTTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE 

2125 RAYSi,.1RN HOU$E OFFICE Bu!J...OU-.jG 

WAstiINCrr<;lN, DC 2Qf,15-6115 

October 15. 20J() 

The Honorable Henry Waxman 

Chairman 

HOllse Committee on Energy and Commerce 

2! 23 Rayburn House Office Building 

Wa~hington. D.C. 20515 

Dear Chairman Waxman: 

I write concerning an incident that occurred on September 22, 2010, during the Oversight 

and Investigations Subcommittee hearing entitled The Outhl'eak afSalmonella in Eggs. I would 

like to express my concern that tltis incident did not reflect a cooperath-e, bipartisan. and 

respectful manner and was not in keeping with the traditions of the Committee. My purpose in 

writing is for the Committee to work together to ensure such an incident does not arise again. 

The incident at issue was a chain of events that transpired during opening statements and 

questioning of the first panel oh"itnesses. During opening statements several Members on the 

Majority mentioned an ongoing dispute in the Senate regarding the Food Safety bill that passed 

through this Committee and the House in July 2009. Several Members of the Majority in their 

openiog statements aud during their questioning made knO\m their bcliefthut a particular 

Senator was hindering the passage of the Food Safety legislation. I had a document that 

presented this Senator's side of this matter, and I asked for unanimous consent for it to he 

entered into the hearing record. r did nOI consider this request to he controversial. The 

Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations is a fact-finding body, and our practice has heen 

to ensw'c a balanced hearing record, providing bOlh points of"iew. In addition. unless there is a 

compelling and substantive reason, counesies almost always are e]((cllded to Members 

requcstillg unanimous consent to include a document in the hearing record. This has been the 

practice of the Committee, and I would note that I am well aware of your efforts under your 

chaimlanship to extend courtesies to Committee members, regardless ofwhetherthcy are on the 

Majority or Minority side. 
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Letter to the Honorable Henry A. Waxman 

Page 2 

My request was denied. No substantive reason for this denial was explained to me or the 

other members of the Subcommittee. Although the document itself was not permitted 10 be 

included in the hearing record, I did not view that objection as extending to my use of a ponioD 

of my guaranteed five minutes of question time to read the document in qtlestioD. Therefore. r 

begllll to read 1\ statenlent fTOm this document near the end of my allotted tive minutes of 

question time. The Subcommittee Chaimlan objected to me reading from this document, 

attempted to interrupt me during my question time, lllld ultimately silenced my microphone lll1d 

did not allow me the full usage of my time. 1 objected to ills actions, and I was not grlll1ted my 

subsequent request to add 30 seconds to my question time for the second panel of witnesses in an 

attempt to smooth over this dispute, 

What occurred at this hearing should nor create a precedent. While this was not the 

CommIttee's finest hour, we should use this incident in a positive way to clarifY Committee 

practice on una!limous consentrequests lllid the treatment of Members during their question 

time. 1 would urge there be an open lll1d bipartiSlll1. discussion ofthis incident to create II 

common Ullderstanding of how these situations should be hlUldled in the future. Oversight and 

Investigations Subcommittee hearings have traditionally been forums that encourage and allow 

for open dialogue and presentation of the facts from mllllY different perspectives. 1 hope that this 

continues to b{, the stlll1dard. and that courtesy, respect., and civility are the touchstones for the 

condLlct of Committee bearings. 

Sincerely, 

~/~.~~-. M;maeI C. Burgess ~ . 

Ranking Mem.ber 

Subcommittee on Oversight and lnvestigations 

cc: The Honorable Joe Barton, Ranking Member 

The Honorable Bart Stupak, Chairman 

Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations 
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HENRY A. WAXMAN. CALifORNIA 

CHAIRMAN 

ONE HUNDRED ELEVENTH CONGRESS 

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COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE 

2125 RAYBURN HOUSE OFFICE Bvn.OING 

WASHINGTON, DC 20515-8115 

The Honorable Michael C. Burgess 

Ranking Member 

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MiI'lOfit\' {i02} 225-.-3&41 

October 18, 2010 

Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations 

Committee on Energy and Commerce 

2125 Rayburn House Office Building 

Washington, DC 20515 

Dear Represent;ltive Burgess: 

JOE BARTON. TEXAS 

RANKING MEMBER 

Thank you for your OctOber 15,2010, letter, regarding the hearing of the 

Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations into Salmonella contamination in eggs. I share 

the view that courtesy, respect, and civility should be a halhnark of our hearings. 

After receiving your letter, I reviewed the transcript of the hearing. While I continue to 

disagree with the substance ofSenalOr CGburn's statement, I agree with you that you should 

have been able to insert the statement into the hearing record. 

Assuming I receive no objection from Subcommittee Chairman Stupak and full 

Committee Ranking Member Barton, both of ,,'hom are copied on this letter, I will make sure 

that the Senator's statement is made part of the official record of the hearing. 

I appreciate your concern for the Committee. 

cc: The Honorable Joe Barton 

Ranking Member 

The Honorable Bart Stupak 

Chairman 

Subcommittee on Oversight 

and Investigations 

Sincerely, 

~a.~ 

Henry A. Waxman 

Chairman 
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Dr. Coburn Encourages Reid to Bring Food Safety Bill to the Floor - Press Releases - To... Page I of2 

Tom Coburn. M.D .. Vnited States Senator from Oklahoma 

H9me Press Room Press Releases 

Sep 162010 

Dr. Coburn Encourages Reid to Bring Food Safety Bill to the Floor 

(WASHINGTON, D.C.) - U.S. Senator Tom Coburn, M.D. (R-OK) released the following statement 

today encouraging Majority Leader Reid to bring food safety legislation to the floor of the Senate for a 

full and open debate. 

"If Majority Leader Reid believes this legislation is a matter of life and death he should bring it to the 

floor immediately for a full and open debate. As Majority Leader, he sets the schedule. I do not. His 

claim that I am blocking the Senate from considering the bill is false, and he knows it is false," Dr. 

Coburn said. 

"The Majority Leader also knows that one of my concerns with the bill is that it is not paid for. 

Unfortunately, he has refused to even discuss ways to pay for the bill by reducing spending on lower 

priority items. With our national debt at $13.5 trillion we simply can't continue to borrow and spend 

without restraint. The American people should question the competence of any member of Congress 

who can't find $1.4 billion of waste in a $3.5 trillion budget that could be cut to pay for improved food 

safety. 

"Finally, I don't question the Majority Leader's commitment to safe food even ifhe does not extend the 

same courtesy to me. However, as a practicing physician, I am not impressed with public health lectures 

from career politicians who have little real world experience in any field, much less health-related fields. 

If the Majority Leader wants the bill to advance he should pay for it. Ifhe doesn't want to pay for it, he 

should then bring it to the floor and explain to the American people why he can't cut a penny of wasteful 

Washington spending to pay for a bill he says is a matter of life and death," Dr. Coburn said. 

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IlEI'ARTM£NT OF Hull,TH A"N!} HUMAN SERvlCES 

The Honorable Brut T, Stupak 

Chairman 

Subcommittee 011 Oversight and 111veMigatiollS 

Committee on Energy and Commerce 

House of Representatives 

Wa:.hing!on. D,C, 20515-6115 

Dear Mr, Chairman: 

Thaak you for providing an opportunity for the food and Drug Admini~tration {FDA or 

the Agency} 10 teStify at ure September 22. 20l0, hearing cntit1ed "The Outbreak of 

Salmonella in Eggs." Dr. Joshua Sharfstein. Principal Deputy Comluissioner, testified on 

behalf of FDA. Tbis letter provides responses to questions that arose during Dr. 

Sharfslein's testimony, We have restated each question in bold type, followed by our 

responses. 

Thank you for your leadership on food safety issues, Please Ie! us know if you have any 

further questions or concerns. 

cc: The Honorable Henry Waxman. Chairman 

Committee on Energy and Commerce 

The Honorable Joe Barton, Ranking Member 

Committee on Energy and Commerce 

Sincerely, 

Jeanne Ireland 

Assistant Commissioner 

for Legislation 

The Honorable Michael C. Burgess, Raaking Member 

Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations 
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Page :2 - The Honorable Ban T. Stupak 

Chairman Bart Stupak 

This final rule that's now in place and applies to those egg-producing farms with 3,000 

or more egg-laying bens - how many farms is that in t.he United State..<;? 

To clarify, the new egg &afety requiremems that went into effe.ct 'on July 9,2010, apply to 

the largest egg producers-those with 50,000 or more laying hens. There are 657 farms 

in this category. TIle requirements will become effective for smaller producers with at 

least 3.000 laying hells but fewer than 50,000 hens by July 9, 2012. There are 2.671 

fanns in ihat category. The ntle applies 10 99 percent of tOlal egg production. 

Ranking Member Michael C. Burgess 

Does FDA have studies from prior recalls that the Agency has overseen with 

Salmonella internal to the egg, for the purposes of eomparing and contrasting what 

FDA is doing now? 

FDA does not have any data on past shell egg recalls to show whether the contamination 

was internal or external. 

The surface of an egg can become contaminated with any microorganism that might be 

CllCfcted by a laying hen or through contoc,t with contaminate A! nesting materials, dust, 

feedstuff, shipping and storage containers, human heings, and other animals. The longer 

eggs are in contact with the contaminated materials the likelihood of trans-shell 

penetration increases. Trans-shell penetration was previously considered the primary 

sourc'e of all Salmonella Enteritidis (SE) contamination of eggs. However, while 

environmental contamination (i.e., tr'<ll1s-shell penetration) is still a route for SE 

comamination, SE experts believe that the predominant route through which eggs become 

contaminated with SE is rhe transovarian route.. Although the mechanism is not 

completely understood, SE will infect the ovaries and oviducts of some egg-laying hens, 

pennirting transovarian contamination of the interior of the egg, ""hile the egg is srill 

inside the hen. The site of comaminaliQn in the egg is usually the albumen (the egg 

white). 

Chairman Henry Wax'11lan 

Has the Department of Justice ever sought criminal penalties against a food 

producer? 

Yes. For example, FDA has investigated and the Department of Justice (DOl) has 

prosecuted dairy frumers who adulterated milk by adding salt and waler to We milk 10 

increase profits. In addition, in Febntary 2010, a federal grand jury charged the fonner 

owner and CEO of Sf( Foods, a grower, processor. and distributor of tomato products. 

wlth violationi' of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. wire frand. 

and obstruction of justice based. on his direction of several schemes to defraud customers 

through bribery and food misbranding and adulteratioll. The charges are Slil1 pending. 

These examples are provided to demonstrate that DOl has sought criminal charges 
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Page 3 - The Honorable Bart T. Stupak 

against food producers. and do not represent the en! ire unive.rse of feAleral criminal 

prosecutions of food producers. 

Representative Edward J. Markev 

Have there been any recent Salmonella infections that were later linked to DeCoster 

e:g~s or facilities from New England? 

There have been no recent Salmonella infections from this outbreak that have been linked 

to DeCoster eggs or facilities from New England. 

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