From: Geoff Beck <geoff@beckalum.com>

To: Nathaniel Jutras/DC/USEPA/US@EPA

Date: 07/26/2011 11:23 AM

Subject: RE: Summary of July 11 Introductory Meeting - Small Business Panel on Secondary 

Aluminum Production Risk and Technology Review

Nathaniel,

I was out of town on business yesterday and away from email access. I have 

reviewed all materials and don't have any specific comments or suggestions at 

this time. Most of the potential/proposed changes do not have a direct impact 

on how we operate. Sweat furnaces and delacquering kilns are not a part of 

our process and we're not a batch shop so rarely do we startup/shutdown, and 

when we do we continue our environmental cleaning procedures during both. 

I'm looking forward to partaking at the conference on August 22nd in D.C., I 

hope it's not too hot. Will there be more information to come with regards to 

meeting specifics(location, time, attire etc.)?

Regards,

Geoffrey Beck 

-----Original Message-----

From: Nathaniel Jutras [mailto:Jutras.Nathaniel@epamail.epa.gov] 

Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:46 PM

To: gescudero@alliedmetalcompany.com; jlm@nffs.org; Woodard@epchc.org; Geoff 

Beck; bgriffin@scepterinc.com; DavidWagger@isri.org; 

donforchette@goldenaluminum.com; Armstrong@Trialco.net; 

cjohnson@aluminum.org; rneilson@shapesllc.com; Dlammers@CohenBrothersInc.com; 

jerry@tap-rsi.com; harrietm@yaffeco.net; Michelle@crestwoodmetal.com; 

gescudero@alliedmetalcompany.com; jlm@nffs.org; Woodard@epchc.org; Geoff 

Beck; bgriffin@scepterinc.com; DavidWagger@isri.org; 

donforchette@goldenaluminum.com; Armstrong@Trialco.net; 

cjohnson@aluminum.org; rneilson@shapesllc.com; Dlammers@CohenBrothersInc.com; 

jerry@tap-rsi.com; harrietm@yaffeco.net; Michelle@crestwoodmetal.com; 

David.Rostker@sba.gov; Cortney_Higgins@omb.eop.gov; Lanelle Wiggins

Subject: Summary of July 11 Introductory Meeting - Small Business Panel on 

Secondary Aluminum Production Risk and Technology Review

Dear Potential SERs,

Attached is a document entitled "sbarpanelpre-mtg_07_11_2011", which 

summarizes the minutes of our July 11 meeting.

Also included here is the the PowerPoint Rochelle walked us through during 

the meeting, "SBAR Panel Briefing_RTR_Sec Aluminum_7-11-11/pptx", and 

Appendix A, a supporting document for the PowerPoint file.

Once again, we look forward to receiving your written feedback. You may do 

so through July 25 by email (recommended) at Jutras.Nathaniel@epa.gov or by 

post at the address provided below.
Regards,

Nathaniel P. Jutras

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency

Office of Policy, Regulatory Management Division 1200 Pennsylvania Ave. NW, 

Mailcode 1806A Washington, DC 20460

(P) (202) 564.0301 (F) (202) 564.0965

(See attached file: sbarpanelpre-mtg_07_11_2011.doc)(See attached file:

SBAR Panel Briefing_RTR_Sec Aluminum_7-11-11.pptx)(See attached file:

Appendix A.doc)

-----Forwarded by Rochelle Boyd/RTP/USEPA/US on 07/26/2011 09:33PM -----

To: Rochelle Boyd/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA

From: Nathaniel Jutras/DC/USEPA/US

Date: 07/26/2011 12:50PM

Subject: Scepter - 3 of 5 Potential SER Comments on Outreach Materials and July 11 

meeting 

----- Forwarded by Nathaniel Jutras/DC/USEPA/US on 07/26/2011 12:45 PM -----

From: "Brian C. Griffin" <BGriffin@ScepterInc.com>

To: Nathaniel Jutras/DC/USEPA/US@EPA

Date: 07/25/2011 03:03 PM

Subject: Scepter Comments

Nathaniel,

I have attached a PDF of the letter and comments we would like to submit to the panel. One thing not 

included here, would be the ability to make comments on a draft rule even if the panel meeting is 

cancelled on August 22nd. In other words, even if EPA deems the rule contains only insignificant 

changes, and doesn't see the need for the panel, give us a chance to review the draft rule and offer up 

some feedback before this becomes final rule. When we look at your presentation, we feel the $$$ 

estimations are very conservative, so we feel that the EPA may be underestimating the impacts on 

facilities.

Thanks,

Brian

(See attached file: Scepter SBAR Panel comments for SMACT rewrite .pdf)
Brian Griffin

Scepter, Inc.

1485 Scepter Lane, Waverly, TN, 37185

Tel:(931) 535-3565 Fax:(931) 535-3342 Cell:(812) 887-6324

Email: bgriffin@scepterinc.com

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-----Forwarded by Rochelle Boyd/RTP/USEPA/US on 07/26/2011 09:33PM -----

To: Rochelle Boyd/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA

From: Nathaniel Jutras/DC/USEPA/US

Date: 07/26/2011 12:50PM

Subject: Golden Aluminum - 2 of 5 Potential SER Comments on Outreach Materials and July 

11 meeting 

----- Forwarded by Nathaniel Jutras/DC/USEPA/US on 07/26/2011 12:44 PM -----

From: "Forchette, Don" <DonForchette@GoldenAluminum.com>

To: Nathaniel Jutras/DC/USEPA/US@EPA

Cc: "Reed, Jerry" <JerryReed@GoldenAluminum.com>, "Dillow, Roy" 

<RoyDillow@GoldenAluminum.com>

Date: 07/25/2011 05:29 PM

Subject: SER submittal

Hello Nathaniel, Attached is our feedback/introduction as requested. Thank-you for the opportunity.

Don Forchette

Environmental Engineer

Golden Aluminum, Inc.

ph# 303-654-8366

cell# 303-718-8184
(See attached file: July 25 submittal.doc)

-----Forwarded by Rochelle Boyd/RTP/USEPA/US on 07/26/2011 09:33PM -----

To: Rochelle Boyd/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA

From: Nathaniel Jutras/DC/USEPA/US

Date: 07/26/2011 12:50PM

Subject: Trialco, Inc. - 1 of 5 Potential SER Comments on Outreach Materials and July 11 

meeting 

----- Forwarded by Nathaniel Jutras/DC/USEPA/US on 07/26/2011 12:40 PM -----

From: "Jay Armstrong" <armstrong@trialco.net>

To: Nathaniel Jutras/DC/USEPA/US@EPA

Date: 07/25/2011 03:51 PM

Subject: Feedback

Nathaniel, Thank you for your help and information for my trip to your offices. I have a couple of 

questions and comments.

1. I would like to see if we can get more information on the furnaces in Europe. As an industry, we need 

to see if this is a worthwhile investment which can meet all of our requirements. The first requirement 

is to stay within the bounds of EPA requirements. After than baseline is established, then we can 

investigate capital investment, productivity, operating costs, and recovery. Please advise if we have 

access to any information or data which can be shared. 

2. One of the requirements in operating a bag house is to use lime feed to help neutralize the HCl 

generated in the smelting process. At least 50% of what we take to the landfill is the lime we inject into 

the process. When we are running cleaner scrap that % goes up to 70%. I would like to see if a total gas 

neutralizing process is feasible. This appears to be more efficient for everyone involved. 

Jay Armstrong

President

Trialco, Inc.

900 E. 14th Street

Chicago Heights, IL 60411

Armstrong@Trialco.Net

(708)-757-4200

(708)-757-2150 ext. 227 Direct 
(708)-757-3933 Fax

(773)-255-0186 Cell

"Great Ingot = Great Castings"

-----Forwarded by Rochelle Boyd/RTP/USEPA/US on 07/26/2011 09:33PM -----

To: Rochelle Boyd/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA

From: Nathaniel Jutras/DC/USEPA/US

Date: 07/26/2011 12:50PM

Subject: Shapes LLC - 4 of 5 Potential SER Comments on Outreach Materials and July 11 

meeting 

----- Forwarded by Nathaniel Jutras/DC/USEPA/US on 07/26/2011 12:46 PM -----

From: "Neilson, Robert" <rneilson@SHAPESLLC.com>

To: Nathaniel Jutras/DC/USEPA/US@EPA

Date: 07/25/2011 03:15 PM

Subject: RE: Follow-up to this afternoon's Introductory Meeting to Small Business Panel on 

Secondary Aluminum Production Risk and Technology Review

Comments:

Slide 10 - Aluminum Shapes has two Group 2 furnaces and two In-line fluxers

Slide 14 - Why are non-secondary aluminum sources being included? We have a paint line that 

is already covered by MMMM.

Slide 17 - Is the decrease in the number of facilities related to the 2000 regulation?

Slide 27 - Any cost estimates for adding emissions capturing requirements during performance 

testing uncontrolled group 1 furnaces?

Thank you for the opportunity to participate.

Bob.

Robert Neilson

Manager, Environmental Health & Safety

Shapes LLC

Phone 856.662.5500 ext265

Fax 856.662.5673 

rneilson@shapesllc.com

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-----Original Message-----

From: Nathaniel Jutras [mailto:Jutras.Nathaniel@epamail.epa.gov] 

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 6:26 PM

To: gescudero@alliedmetalcompany.com; jlm@nffs.org; Woodard@epchc.org; 

Geoff@beckalum.com; bgriffin@scepterinc.com; DavidWagger@isri.org; 

donforchette; cjohnson@aluminum.org; Neilson, Robert; 

Dlammers@CohenBrothersInc.com; jerry@tap-rsi.com; harrietm@yaffeco.net; 

Michelle@crestwoodmetal.com

Cc: David.Rostker@sba.gov; Cortney_Higgins@omb.eop.gov; Lanelle Wiggins; 

bahner@rti.org; Anne Pope; Dave Guinnup; David Putney; Madeline Barch; Mark 

Kataoka; Michael Stewart; Rochelle Boyd; Steve Fruh; Susan Fairchild; 

dwreeves@rti.org; french.chuck@epa.gov; green@rti.org; 

srivastava.ravi@epa.gov

Subject: Follow-up to this afternoon's Introductory Meeting to Small Business 

Panel on Secondary Aluminum Production Risk and Technology Review

Dear Potential SERs,

Thank you again for your time this afternoon. Attached are the following

materials:

1) The latest version of the PowerPoint Rochelle navigated us through

today entitled "SBAR Panel Briefing_RTR_Sec Aluminum_7-11-11/pptx"

2) "Appendix A" a supporting document for "SBAR Panel Briefing_RTR_Sec

Aluminum_7-11-11/pptx"

3) "An Overview of the Small Business Advocacy Review Panel

Process.pptx", which Lanelle went over briefly at the start of our call.

Once again, we look forward to receiving your written feedback. You may

do so through July 25 by email (recommended) at Jutras.Nathaniel@epa.gov

or by post at the address provided below.

Regards,

Nathaniel P. Jutras

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency

Office of Policy, Regulatory Management Division

1200 Pennsylvania Ave. NW, Mailcode 1806A

Washington, DC 20460

(P) (202) 564.0301 (F) (202) 564.0965

(See attached file: SBAR Panel Briefing_RTR_Sec Aluminum_7-11-11.pptx)

(See attached file: Appendix A.doc)(See attached file: An Overview of

the Small Business Advocacy Review Panel Process.pptx)