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FTO PASSPORT REVOCATION ACT OF 2015; SURVIVORS OF

HUMAN TRAFFICKING EMPOWERMENT ACT; UNITED STATESJORDAN DEFENSE COOPERATION ACT OF 2015; PROTECT

AND PRESERVE INTERNATIONAL CULTURAL PROPERTY ACT;

GLOBAL FOOD SECURITY ACT OF 2015; CALLING FOR THE

RELEASE OF UKRAINIAN FIGHTER PILOT NADIYA

SAVCHENKO; AND ENCOURAGING REUNIONS OF DIVIDED

KOREAN AMERICAN FAMILIES

MARKUP

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS 

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED FOURTEENTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

ON

H.R. 237, H.R. 500, H.R. 907, H.R. 1493, H.R. 1567, 

H. Res. 50 and H. Con. Res. 40

APRIL 23, 2015

Serial No. 114–55

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COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS 

EDWARD R. ROYCE, California, Chairman 

CHRISTOPHER H. SMITH, New Jersey 

ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN, Florida 

DANA ROHRABACHER, California 

STEVE CHABOT, Ohio 

JOE WILSON, South Carolina 

MICHAEL T. MCCAUL, Texas 

TED POE, Texas 

MATT SALMON, Arizona 

DARRELL E. ISSA, California 

TOM MARINO, Pennsylvania 

JEFF DUNCAN, South Carolina 

MO BROOKS, Alabama 

PAUL COOK, California 

RANDY K. WEBER SR., Texas 

SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania 

RON DESANTIS, Florida 

MARK MEADOWS, North Carolina 

TED S. YOHO, Florida 

CURT CLAWSON, Florida 

SCOTT DESJARLAIS, Tennessee 

REID J. RIBBLE, Wisconsin 

DAVID A. TROTT, Michigan 

LEE M. ZELDIN, New York 

TOM EMMER, Minnesota 

ELIOT L. ENGEL, New York 

BRAD SHERMAN, California 

GREGORY W. MEEKS, New York 

ALBIO SIRES, New Jersey 

GERALD E. CONNOLLY, Virginia 

THEODORE E. DEUTCH, Florida 

BRIAN HIGGINS, New York 

KAREN BASS, California 

WILLIAM KEATING, Massachusetts 

DAVID CICILLINE, Rhode Island 

ALAN GRAYSON, Florida 

AMI BERA, California 

ALAN S. LOWENTHAL, California 

GRACE MENG, New York 

LOIS FRANKEL, Florida 

TULSI GABBARD, Hawaii 

JOAQUIN CASTRO, Texas 

ROBIN L. KELLY, Illinois 

BRENDAN F. BOYLE, Pennsylvania

AMY PORTER, Chief of Staff THOMAS SHEEHY, Staff Director

JASON STEINBAUM, Democratic Staff Director 

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C O N T E N T S 

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MARKUP OF 

H.R. 237, To authorize the revocation or denial of passports and passport 

cards to individuals affiliated with foreign terrorist organizations, and for 

other purposes ...................................................................................................... 2

Amendment in the nature of a substitute to H.R. 237 offered by the Honorable Ted Poe, a Representative in Congress from the State of Texas ......... 5

H.R. 500, To establish the United States Advisory Council on Human Trafficking to review Federal Government policy on human trafficking ............... 7

Amendment in the nature of a substitute to H.R. 500 offered by the Honorable Edward R. Royce, a Representative in Congress from the State 

of California, and chairman, Committee on Foreign Affairs ........................ 12

H.R. 907, To improve defense cooperation between the United States and 

the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan ..................................................................... 17

Amendment in the nature of a substitute to H.R. 907 offered by the Honorable Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a Representative in Congress from the State 

of Florida ........................................................................................................... 23

H.R. 1493, To protect and preserve international cultural property at risk 

due to political instability, armed conflict, or natural or other disasters, 

and for other purposes ......................................................................................... 27

H.R. 1567, To authorize a comprehensive, strategic approach for United 

States foreign assistance to developing countries to reduce global poverty 

and hunger, achieve food security and improved nutrition, promote inclusive, sustainable agricultural-led economic growth, improve nutritional outcomes, especially for women and children, build resilience among vulnerable populations, and for other purposes ........................................................... 43

Amendment in the nature of a substitute to H.R. 1567 offered by the 

Honorable Christopher H. Smith, a Representative in Congress from 

the State of New Jersey ................................................................................... 57

Amendment to the amendment in the nature of a substitute to H.R. 

1567 offered by the Honorable Ted Poe ................................................... 72

H. Res. 50, Calling for the release of Ukrainian fighter pilot Nadiya 

Savchenko, who was captured by Russian forces in Eastern Ukraine and 

has been held illegally in a Russian prison since July 2014 ............................ 73

Amendment to H. Res. 50 offered by: 

The Honorable Christopher H. Smith ......................................................... 76

The Honorable Gerald E. Connolly, a Representative in Congress from 

the Commonwealth of Virginia ................................................................ 78

The Honorable William Keating, a Representative in Congress from 

the Commonwealth of Massachusetts ..................................................... 79

H. Con. Res. 40, Encouraging reunions of divided Korean American families .. 80

APPENDIX 

Markup notice .......................................................................................................... 94

Markup minutes ...................................................................................................... 95

Markup summary .................................................................................................... 97

The Honorable Christopher H. Smith, a Representative in Congress from 

the State of New Jersey: Prepared statement ................................................... 98

The Honorable Eliot L. Engel, a Representative in Congress from the State 

of New York: Prepared statment of the Honorable Michael M. Honda, 

a Representative in Congress from the State of California .............................. 100

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FTO PASSPORT REVOCATION ACT OF 2015; SURVIVORS OF

HUMAN TRAFFICKING EMPOWERMENT ACT; UNITED

STATES-JORDAN DEFENSE COOPERATION ACT OF 2015;

PROTECT AND PRESERVE INTERNATIONAL CULTURAL

PROPERTY ACT; GLOBAL FOOD SECURITY ACT OF 2015;

CALLING FOR THE RELEASE OF UKRAINIAN FIGHTER

PILOT NADIYA SAVCHENKO; AND ENCOURAGING

REUNIONS OF DIVIDED KOREAN AMERICAN FAMILIES 

THURSDAY, APRIL 23, 2015

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS,

Washington, DC. 

The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10 o’clock a.m., in 

room 2172 Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Edward Royce 

(chairman of the committee) presiding. 

Chairman ROYCE. The committee will come to order, and we will 

ask all the members to take their seat at this time. 

And pursuant to notice, we meet today to mark up several bipartisan measures. Without objection, all members may have 5 days 

to submit statements for the record, and extraneous materials, on 

any of today’s business. 

As all members were notified yesterday, we intend to consider today’s measures en bloc. And so without objection, the following 

items previously provided to members will be considered en bloc 

and are considered as read: H.R. 237, the Foreign Terrorist Organization Passport Revocation Act, Poe Amendment 33 in the nature 

of a substitute; and then H.R. 500, the Survivors of Human Trafficking Empowerment Act, with Royce Amendment 34 in the nature of a substitute; H.R. 907, the United States-Jordan Defense 

Cooperation Act, with Ros-Lehtinen Amendment 86 in the nature 

of a substitute; H.R. 1493, the Protect and Preserve International 

Cultural Property Act; and H.R. 1567, the Global Food Security 

Act, with Smith Amendment 91 in the nature of a substitute, and 

Poe Amendment 122 to Smith Amendment 91; and then House 

Resolution 50, calling for the release of Ukrainian fighter pilot, 

Nadiya Savchenko, and the following amendments to House Resolution 50: Smith Amendment 31, Connolly Amendment 36, Keating 

Amendment 15; and House Concurrent Resolution 40, encouraging 

reunions of divided Korean American families. 

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Chairman ROYCE. And after recognizing myself and the ranking 

member, Mr. Eliot Engel of New York, I will be pleased to recognize any member seeking recognition to speak on these measures. 

So just, if we could, this is consideration of a number of measures that will strengthen U.S. efforts to counter ISIS and support 

our allies in the Middle East that I will begin with here. 

And the first would be H.R. 907, the U.S.-Jordan Defense Cooperation Act of 2015. This bill recognizes the invaluable role of 

Jordan and enhances our security cooperation. It grants Jordan expedited congressional review of proposed U.S. arms transfers, status that is otherwise reserved for NATO members and other close 

allies. These benefits will be provided to Jordan during its time of 

need. 

And I want to thank Chairman Emeritus Ros-Lehtinen and Mr. 

Ted Deutch for bringing forward this timely and important measure. 

Then we go to H.R. 1493. This is the Protect and Preserve International Cultural Property Act. This committee has heard about 

how ISIS is funding its terror campaign by looting and selling 

treasures and antiquities in Iraq and Syria. The loss and destruction of these artifacts is a national security concern and an affront 

to cultural heritage. 

And I want to thank the ranking member for his continued leadership on this issue, and for authorizing this bill, the Protect and 

Preserve International Cultural Property Act, which will improve 

coordination of U.S. efforts to provide cultural property, to protect 

that cultural property, and prevent those artifacts removed since 

the start of Syria’s civil war from being sold or imported into the 

United States. 

We appreciate working with the Committee on Ways and Means 

on the critical impact and on the important restrictions in this bill. 

Then we have H.R. 237, the FTO Passport Revocation Act. The 

flow of foreign fighters to ISIS is a serious threat. Regrettably, U.S. 

passport holders are among those who have joined the ranks of this 

and other terrorist organizations. So this bill, the FTO Passport 

Revocation Act, authored by Mr. Poe, provides a check to combat 

this threat. 

This bipartisan and common sense bill grants the Secretary of 

State the authority to revoke or deny U.S. passports to individuals 

who are members of designated foreign terrorist organizations, so 

that they cannot realize their jihadist intentions. 

Then we have Mr. Honda’s bill, H.R. 500, Human Trafficking 

Survivors Empowerment Act. I would like to express my strong 

support for this bill. This bill will help to ensure that those with 

the most direct knowledge of human trafficking, the survivors, will 

have a voice in the anti-trafficking policy conversations within the 

U.S. Government. 

It is critical to tap the expertise and affirm the dignity of former 

victims, many of whom I have had the honor of meeting in Washington, D.C., and in California, and also overseas. 

So this bill will establish a U.S. Human Trafficking Survivors 

Advisory Council. It is going to be appointed by the President and 

bipartisan congressional leadership. The council will serve as an 

advisory body to the administration’s senior policy operating group 

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on human trafficking and as a point of contact for Federal agencies 

seeking input from human trafficking survivors. 

I also want to thank the National Survivor Network and the Coalition to Abolish Slavery and Trafficking, that is CAST, as the 

group is known, in Los Angeles, for their important work in advocacy. 

Then we will go to H.R. 1567, the Global Food Security Act. In 

an effort to break the cycle of dependency on U.S. international 

food aid, USAID has been investing in programs to accelerate agriculture-led economic growth, to help chronically food insecure communities become more resilient, and to improve child nutrition. 

The Global Food Security Act, as amended, captures the best attributes of this current strategy while providing a road map for future work. It enhances congressional oversight and forces greater 

collaboration across the many agencies engaged in food and agricultural assistance. 

A substantially similar measure passed the House unanimously 

last December, and I wanted to thank Mr. Smith for his leadership 

in, again, bringing the measure forward. 

House Resolution 50 calling for the release of Ukrainian fighter 

pilot Nadiya Savchenko. She was seized in July 2014 by Russianbacked separatists in Eastern Ukraine and forcibly taken to Russia 

where she has endured psychological abuse and solitary confinement. 

And then we have, lastly, House Concurrent Resolution 40 on the 

reunification of Korean American families. For over 60 years, these 

families have longed for an opportunity to reunite with their loved 

ones. This resolution calls on North Korea to recognize their suffering and permit the reunion they have long desired. 

I go now to Mr. Eliot Engel of New York. 

Mr. ENGEL. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for holding this markup 

and, as always, for working with us in a bipartisan manner. I 

strongly support the seven measures that make up this en bloc 

package. 

I would like to begin by urging my colleagues to support H.R. 

1493, the Protect and Preserve International Cultural Property 

Act. I introduced this bill with Representatives Chris Smith and 

Bill Keating, and Chairman Royce as well, and this is a measure 

that is deeply important to me. 

We have all seen horrific videos of ISIS ransacking historical 

sites in the territory they control. This is much, much more than 

the senseless destruction of irreplaceable treasures in Syria alone. 

It has happened all over the world, but today ISIS is trying to 

erase history. They are trying to wipe out the heritage and the culture of the people they oppress. Worse still, they are peddling these 

antiquities on the black market to fund their violence. 

Since World War II, the United States has led the world in protecting cultural property from those bent on its theft and destruction. We have never stood for this sort of barbarity, and we cannot 

do so now. We must respond to the ongoing crisis in Syria and coordinate our efforts to protect cultural property before the next crisis erupts somewhere else in the world. 

This bill would allow the administration to crack down on the 

import of looted Syrian cultural property, restrictions that would 

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mirror those we have already established for Iraq and that would 

bolster steps our allies have already taken. The legislation would 

also make sure all of our Federal agencies are on the same page 

when it comes to safeguarding antiquities, and it would ramp up 

congressional oversight of what we are doing on that issue. 

We need to act on this problem now to cut off a critical source 

of funding for ISIS, to stand up to this brand of psychological warfare, and to stop those determined to destroy a part of the world’s 

richest history. 

Next I would like to thank Representative Poe for introducing 

H.R. 237, bipartisan legislation to authorize the Secretary of State 

to deny or revoke passports for anyone associated with a foreign 

terrorist organization. I am deeply troubled by reports of Americans traveling to Syria and Iraq to join ISIS and other terrorist organizations. 

This situation creates the potential for attacks on U.S. soil when 

they return home. It is critical we use all of the tools at our disposal, including border protection and passport controls, to protect 

our country. 

I also support H.R. 1567, the Global Food Security Act, and I 

thank Representatives Smith and McCollum for taking the lead on 

this important issue. The bipartisan legislation passed the House 

last year and would authorize the Feed the Future Initiative championed by former USAID Administrator Raj Shah. 

In its first few years, this initiative has made a real difference 

in fighting world hunger, poverty, and malnutrition. This bill would 

strengthen this valuable program, and I urge my colleagues to support it. 

I also support H.R. 907, the U.S.-Jordan Defense Cooperation 

Act, legislation introduced by my friends, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen and 

Ted Deutch. Jordan faces enormous security and economic challenges. More than 600,000 Syrian refugees have spilled into the 

country, and ISIS is sitting on its doorstep. 

This bill would speed up the transfer of American defense equipment for the next 3 years. It would also authorize the Secretary of 

State to sign a memorandum of understanding with Jordan to increase economic and military assistance. We want to send a message to the Jordanian people we are with them in their fight 

against extremism. 

I also support H.R. 500, the Survivors of Human Trafficking Empowerment Act, which was introduced by Representative Mike 

Honda. This legislation would create a council made up of trafficking survivors to provide guidance and recommendations to Federal agencies working on human trafficking issues. Having the 

voices of survivors to help guide Federal policy, identify funding 

priorities, and offer technical assistance will improve our government’s response to this horrific crime of modern day slavery. 

Next I want to thank Representative Rangel for his leadership 

and introducing H. Con. Res. 40, a resolution that encourages the 

reunion of divided Korean American families. Charlie Rangel, of 

course, was an American soldier in the Korean War. More than 10 

million Koreans have been separated from family members since 

1953, many of whom are now American citizens. 

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This legislation calls on North Korea to allow Korean Americans 

to meet their family members from North Korea, and it takes steps 

to build goodwill that is conducive to peace on the Peninsula. I am 

a co-sponsor of this legislation, and I urge my colleagues to support 

it. 

And, finally, I would like to voice my support for H. Res. 50, a 

resolution calling on Russia to immediately release Ukrainian 

fighter pilot Nadiya Savchenko and condemning her illegal captivity. Nadiya was captured by Russian-led insurgents in Ukraine 

last summer and has been held in a Moskow prison. 

She is a true heroine of Ukraine. Her courage and spirit inspire 

so many in her country who are struggling against great odds for 

an independent, democratic, and prosperous Ukraine, an independent, democratic, and prosperous future. 

I commend Representative Sandy Levin and the other members 

of the House Ukraine Caucus for introducing this measure, and I 

urge my colleagues to support us. 

I also ask unanimous consent to enter Congressman Honda’s 

statement for the record for H.R. 500. 

Chairman ROYCE. Without objection. 

Mr. ENGEL. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, again, for holding this 

markup and for working with us on these measures in a bipartisan 

manner. 

Chairman ROYCE. Thank you, Mr. Engel. 

Do any other members seek recognition? Ms. Ros-Lehtinen. 

Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Thank you so much, Chairman Royce, and 

Ranking Member Engel. Thank you for holding this markup today 

and for the excellent way in which you are guiding our committee. 

Thanks to your staff as well for working with my staff and Mr. 

Deutch’s office to bring up H.R. 907, the United States-Jordan Defense Cooperation Act of 2015. 

Ted could not be present because he has a markup at Judiciary, 

but he wanted me to express, on his behalf, his strong support for 

this legislation and his gratitude to the full committee for bringing 

it forward this morning. 

H.R. 907 is a simple, straightforward, common sense bill that not 

only helps secure U.S. national security interests, but also the security interests of one of our closest allies in the Middle East region, the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. Jordan has been on the 

front lines in the fight against the terror group ISIL, and having 

to deal with the humanitarian crisis that is ongoing as a result of 

the fighting in Iraq, in Syria, which has caused a great strain on 

the Kingdom. 

King Abdullah has been gracious in taking in over a million refugees who have fled the wrath of ISIL in Iraq and the fallout from 

the war between Assad, ISIL, and other terror groups. He understands that in order to defeat ISIL more moderate and understanding voices must refute and fight back the radicalized Islam of 

ISIL and other terror groups, and reclaim Islam for those who seek 

peace. Otherwise, the fight against these extremists will never end. 

And, of course, we know the horror that befell the people of Jordan when ISIL captured, tortured, and burned to death a Jordanian fighter pilot. The brutality of these extremists knows no 

bounds, and neither do their aspirations. They will not cease until 

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they achieve their objectives, and that is to establish an Islamic caliphate, or until they are defeated and destroyed. This is where our 

bill comes in. 

Jordan has done a great job of taking the fight to ISIL, but the 

Kingdom needs more resources to bolster their capabilities. The 

U.S. and Jordan have signed a new memorandum of understanding 

that will guide our assistance to Jordan for the next 3 years. But 

what Jordan really needs now is for us to expedite our arms transfers and defense articles to the Kingdom. 

King Abdullah has stepped up to take a leading role in the fight, 

but he needs our help and has asked that we expedite some of 

these transfers, so that Jordan has the tools necessary to not only 

repel ISIL but to take the fight to the terror group and destroy it. 

Time is of the essence, Mr. Chairman, in the fight against ISIL, 

and we have none to spare. The U.S. must continue to fully support 

our allies in the region as much as we can, and this bill will signal 

to them that we stand ready to back them in their efforts to take 

on terror and to bring stability to a violence-plagued region. 

And, finally, before I yield my time, I would like the committee 

members to meet Mariella, a young lady behind us. She is a high 

school junior from Fort Worth. She is part of a national organization called Girls, Inc., and many of the female members are participating in a Take Your Daughters to Work Day. She is not my 

granddaughter, but I wish she could be. She is a wonderful young 

lady. 

Thank you, Mariella. 

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I——

Chairman ROYCE. Thank you. 

Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN [continuing]. Yield back. 

Chairman ROYCE. Thank you, Ileana. 

Let us see. We go now to—Mr. Keating, are you next in line? Do 

you want to be recognized? 

Mr. KEATING. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would like to move to 

strike the last word. First, I would like to thank you for the two 

amendments I had that are considered in the en bloc as one en bloc 

amendment. 

The first one is just a technical change, I believe, but an important one, with Congressman Levin’s fine work in recognizing Lieutenant Savchenko’s plight and heroism in Ukraine. And what it 

does is, given the Russian Federation’s ongoing efforts to distort 

the legally and internationally recognized definition of Ukraine’s 

sovereignty, independence, and territorial integrity, we changed, 

and I think it was crucial to do this, references to all parts of 

Ukraine simply as Ukraine as a whole. 

Secondly, I want to thank my colleagues, Chairman Royce, Ranking Member Engel, and Mr. Smith, for joining me in sponsoring 

H.R. 1493, the Protect and Preserve International Cultural Property Act. We have seen images of the terrorist organization and the 

group ISIL destroying cultural sites and artifacts in Iraq and Syria. 

ISIL’s recent activities mirror the Taliban’s destruction of Buddhist 

statues in Afghanistan in 2001, and an al-Qaeda affiliate’s destruction of tombs and shrines in Timbuktu, Mali, in 2012. 

These acts destroy humanity’s common cultural heritage and are 

a crime against the entire international community, including the 

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United States. In addition to ISIL and other groups, there are increasingly looting and trafficking cultural artifacts to finance their 

own terrorist operations. ISIL has reportedly earned millions from 

the plunder of antiquities, including $36 million from the looting in 

one site alone in Syria. 

This bill is an important step in protecting cultural property in 

Syria specifically, and coordinating the efforts of the United States 

Government in working to protect cultural property worldwide, and 

work to prevent the trafficking in antiquities from benefitting terrorists and other criminal groups alike. 

I look forward to continuing to work on this issue with the committee, and I want to thank my colleagues for their support. 

With that, I yield back, Mr. Chairman. 

Chairman ROYCE. Thank you, Mr. Keating. 

Let us see. We go now to Mr. Smith of New Jersey. 

Mr. SMITH. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I want to 

thank you, Chairman Royce, and Ranking Member Engel, for 

scheduling this important markup, which again evidences the bipartisanship and the collegiality that is so characteristic of this 

committee. 

The Global Food Security Act, H.R. 1567, I am happy to say has 

a number of co-sponsors, including prime co-sponsor Betty McCollum. It has been a delight to work with her and her staff, the ranking member of our subcommittee, Karen Bass, and you, Mr. Chairman, and Mr. Engel, as well as Mr. Emmer, Mr. Meadows, Mr. 

DesJarlais, and Mr. Cicilline. Thank you all for being on this important lifesaving legislation. 

This legislation will help provide a long-term solution, really, a 

road map to ending global hunger by authorizing and strengthening the existing national food security program coordinated by 

the USAID, commonly known as Feed the Future. This program 

strengthens nutrition, especially for children during the critical 

first 1,000-day window from conception to the child’s second birthday. It is absolutely the most transformative time in anybody’s life. 

And if we get it right, both mother and child are exponentially 

more healthy and will have healthier lives going forward. 

In essence, it is a program, this bill, that teaches a woman or 

man to fish instead of giving that person the fish. As such, it is economical in the long run and will likely, over the long term, lead 

to a reduction in the amount of money we spend on emergency food 

aid. Our aid is leveraged with that of other countries, the private 

sector, NGOs, and especially faith-based organizations whose great 

work on the ground in so many different countries impacts so many 

lives. 

By statutorily authorizing this existing program and strengthening it, which had its roots in the Bush administration and was 

formalized by President Obama, is a fittingly bipartisan program. 

We are also increasing our oversight by requiring the administration to report to Congress in a number of areas. 

As you may recall, last year we passed the Global Food Security 

Act out of the House, only to have it stall and falter in the Senate, 

so we are back. The amendment in the nature of a substitute, 

which you have before you, is in substance similar to what the 

House passed last year. And, again, it really speaks to the metrics, 

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measurable goals, benchmarks, time tables, and, again, makes this 

whole program a very significant priority in what we do. 

I want to thank Mr. Poe for offering an amendment that underscores the vital importance of water, sanitation, and health, known 

by the acronym WASH in global development, and that amendment 

is now a part of this legislation. So thank you, Ted. Thank you, 

Judge. 

And I would ask unanimous consent to include the rest of my 

statement on some of the other measures. 

Chairman ROYCE. Without objection. 

Mr. SMITH. Thank you. 

Chairman ROYCE. Let us see. Mr. David Cicilline of Rhode Island 

was seeking recognition. 

Mr. CICILLINE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to begin by 

complimenting you and Ranking Member Engel for calling this 

markup and for the bipartisan spirit in which all of these issues 

have been approached and strongly supporting the passage of each 

of them. 

I would like to just also take a moment to welcome two state legislators from Rhode Island, Senator Juan Pichardo and Representative Carlos Tobon, who are here and watching us, and just welcome 

them to the committee. 

And with that, I yield back. 

Chairman ROYCE. Thank you, Mr. Cicilline. 

Judge Ted Poe of Texas. 

Mr. POE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to thank you and the 

ranking member for bringing up all seven of these pieces of legislation in a timely manner, and the efficiency for which the committee 

has worked with me and other members on these bills. 

One-year-old Vivek lived in a village of mud huts in India. When 

Vivek was not doing well, his mother took him to the doctor four 

times and the doctor said it was malnutrition. His family had 

enough food to eat for his young body. They had goats, fresh buffalo milk, and hundreds of pounds of wheat and potatoes. So what 

was the problem? The problem was water. Vivek’s little body was 

spending so much of its energy fighting infections from the bad 

water that there was little left for brain development and growth. 

The lesson here is that you can give a child all the food in the 

world, but without clean water it will not do any good. 

My amendment to H.R. 1567 that is sponsored by the gentleman 

from New Jersey, Mr. Smith, makes clean water and sanitation 

part of the discussion when we talk about food security. Instead of 

each sector of foreign aid with its own stovepipe, this amendment 

makes sure that sectors talk to each other and work together. 

Last week a 23-year-old Somali American man from Columbus, 

Ohio, was charged with supporting terrorists. He was trained in 

Syria and told by a cleric to go home to the United States and 

carry out an attack against America. That is the first time we have 

caught someone who was specifically told to go back to the United 

States to attack the homeland. These Benedict Arnold traitors who 

have turned against America and joined the ranks of foreign radical terrorist armies should not be allowed to come back into the 

United States unless they come back in handcuffs. 

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For these reasons, I believe H.R. 237, that is co-sponsored by Mr. 

Keating and Mr. Sherman, the Foreign Terrorist Organization 

Passport Revocation Act, is a critical bill at a critical time. This bill 

grants the Secretary of State the explicit authority to revoke or 

deny U.S. passports for individuals who are members of or otherwise help designated foreign terrorist organizations. We must stop 

these killers from coming back to the United States to do harm to 

Americans. 

And, lastly, human trafficking is a scourge in our society. It is 

encouraging to see that the Senate yesterday passed the Justice for 

Victims of Trafficking Act, 99 to 0. I don’t know the last time that 

the Senate has agreed on unanimous legislation this important. 

This is very similar to the legislation that passed the House that 

I was the lead sponsor on, along with Carolyn Maloney from New 

York, along with 10 other bills regarding the scourge of human 

trafficking. 

Congress is finally coming to the realization that trafficking happens in our backyards, and we need to do something about this. 

Survivors’ voices must be part of the conversation. They know best 

how to effectively prevent the fight of this modern day slavery. We 

must engage survivors if we have any chance of ending this crime 

and properly serving the victims of this dastardly deed. 

As the lead Republican on H.R. 500, the Survivors of Human 

Trafficking Empowerment Act, I have enjoyed working with Congressman Honda to ensure victims are empowered and their voices 

are heard on the Federal level, and I would recommend and ask 

that the two bills that I mentioned be voted on in the affirmative, 

and the one amendment be voted on in the affirmative along with 

the other pieces of legislation. 

And I will yield back. 

Chairman ROYCE. Thank you, Mr. Poe. 

Seeking recognition, we have Lois Frankel of Florida. 

Ms. FRANKEL. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I want to 

thank you and the ranking member, and all the members who have 

contributed to these measures, which I support, and appreciate 

that in a world full of crises that we can find so many things that 

we here can cooperate on. 

I wanted to also, like my colleague, Ms. Ros-Lehtinen, introduce 

a young lady. We actually have a miracle in the room. Her name 

is Miracle Dixon from a high school in Indiana. And I want to welcome you here with the Girls, Inc. program. 

And I just want to let you know that Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, who 

also has someone with her, used to be the chair of this committee, 

and chairs one of our subcommittees, because this is a leadership 

program. So this is one of our most prominent women leaders in 

the Congress, so I want you to know that. And the rest of us are 

working toward that. 

Anyway, we want to welcome you. She is an honors student, good 

grades, and wants to be a lawyer. So keep that up. 

And thank you, Mr. Chair. I yield back. 

Chairman ROYCE. Thank you. Thank you, Lois. 

Okay. We want to go now to Mr. Rohrabacher of California. 

Mr. ROHRABACHER. Thank you very much, and I would like to especially thank you, Mr. Chairman, and Mr. Engel for the great 

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leadership that you have provided us at this time when our country 

is confronting this ISIL threat and the terrorist actions overseas 

and the threats to our country. I think this committee is doing its 

due diligence, and I want to thank you very much for that. 

I support your call today for these bills to be en bloc, voted on 

en bloc and brought to the floor. I would like to just express a couple of concerns that I have with two bills within this en bloc 

amendment. 

And let me just—and I would like to ask Judge Poe, in your 

Passport Revocation Act, would this mean that we would revoke 

the passports for people who are here and considered terrorist 

threats while they are here? Or is it just for people who have gone 

overseas and are part of a terrorist group? 

Mr. POE. The bill allows the State Department to revoke the 

passport of any American citizen that is a member of a foreign terrorist organization anyplace. 

Mr. ROHRABACHER. Anyplace. Well, wouldn’t we want to have 

someone who is a member of a terrorist organization either arrested right away and put away or—that is number one—if they 

are here domestically, rather than having them stay here without 

a passport, meaning we don’t want those terrorists here in the 

United States. 

Mr. POE. Well, you would think that the FBI would arrest terrorists in the United States. But the bill is primarily—you asked me 

the specific question—it includes anybody that is a foreign terrorist 

organization member. It was aimed at those people who leave the 

United States, that are radicalized in Syria, and then they try to 

come back over here and do their mischief. That is what the bill 

is aimed at. 

Mr. ROHRABACHER. Well, we are—of course, I am with you 100 

percent on that. I would hope, however, we are not taking away the 

passport from someone in a terrorist organization which makes 

them stay here. We would like them—to either arrest them here 

or take them overseas. 

Mr. POE. We would like them to go to jail. 

Mr. ROHRABACHER. Yes. 

Chairman ROYCE. And if I could make an observation, this legislation also was revised, working with the FBI, in a way to make 

sure it does not intervene in their work. And it in no way, of 

course, preempts or prevents law enforcement from doing its job. 

But I think it is an important step to make certain that those 

who are involved in these organizations, whether they are arrested 

or not, do not have the wherewithal to travel to get training offshore and then return. And this, of course, would prevent that from 

happening. So your point is well founded, Mr. Rohrabacher. 

Mr. ROHRABACHER. I don’t want them coming back. I mean, because if we are not going to——

Chairman ROYCE. Right. That is the intent behind it. 

Mr. ROHRABACHER. All right. And the second thing is about the 

calling for the release of the Ukrainian fighter pilot. I think she is 

offering a great service by drawing our attention to the fact that 

there are so many people being held hostage and prisoner in this 

Ukrainian catastrophe that is going on with our country right now. 

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And I would hope that just in the spirit of—I will be voting for 

this, but we should express our desire that it is not just one 

Ukrainian fighter pilot who happens to be a woman who we now 

can identify with, but we hope that this conflict ends maybe with 

the Minsk Agreement, which also had, as part of it, the release of 

all prisoners on both sides. 

And we should be making sure that the people of the Ukraine 

know that we are trying to promote a peace situation where all of 

the prisoners are released and they can get back to making sure 

they are rebuilding their country, rather than just singling out one 

prisoner for that. 

Chairman ROYCE. I think it would be a very good point, Mr. 

Rohrabacher, per the situation in Ukraine. But here is the difference in this particular case. This is actually a Ukrainian pilot. 

She is a Ukrainian pilot who was seized on Ukrainian territory, 

and then she was transferred to Russian territory. That is the difference. So she has been held in solitary confinement. She has been 

subjected to psychological abuse, denied access to medical treatment. And given these considerations, this would be the point of 

this particular——

Mr. ROHRABACHER. All right. I think that is a very good answer. 

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 

Chairman ROYCE. Thank you, Mr. Rohrabacher. 

Mr. Grayson. 

Mr. GRAYSON. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just one brief comment 

regarding the Passport Revocation Act. The Supreme Court has 

recognized that there is a constitutional right to travel, and I think 

that that comes directly from the right of freedom of assembly 

under the First Amendment. Therefore, in my view—and I hope 

this becomes part of the record on this—I don’t think that you can 

properly deny someone a passport or the right to travel without 

clear and convincing evidence. 

I yield back. 

Chairman ROYCE. Mr. Grayson, I think you raise a point here, 

and this is one of the reasons why this was crafted to provide permissive authority to the State Department per your concern here. 

And I think, given that, we can still meet that constitutional test, 

but——

Mr. POE. Will the chairman yield? 

Chairman ROYCE. Yes. I will yield to the author of the measure, 

Mr. Ted Poe of Texas. 

Mr. POE. The Supreme Court has ruled that the State Department, under certain circumstances, may revoke an American passport. 

Mr. GRAYSON. Will the gentleman yield? 

Mr. POE. Yes. 

Mr. GRAYSON. I understand that. I am suggesting, consistent 

with the Supreme Court’s ruling, that that can be done only with 

clear and convincing evidence that that is, and should be, the 

standard of proof. 

I yield back. 

Chairman ROYCE. Mr. Grayson yields back. 

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Any other members seeking recognition? If not, we are going to 

go to—oh, yes. I wanted to recognize Mr. Gerry Connolly of Virginia for 30 minutes. [Laughter.] 

Mr. CONNOLLY. Take off your coats, everybody. Thank you, Mr. 

Chairman. I want to thank you and the ranking member for putting together today’s markup. I am happy to support all of the bills 

in front of us. I want to thank your staffs as well for cooperating 

with us on inclusion of our amendment on H. Res. 50, reiterating 

the unqualified U.S. support for Ukrainian sovereignty in all respects. 

Thank you again. 

Chairman ROYCE. Reverse psychology. Thank you, Mr. Connolly. 

Mr. CONNOLLY. I yield back my 29 minutes. 

Chairman ROYCE. Okay. Hearing no further requests for recognition, the question occurs on the items considered en bloc. All those 

in favor say aye. 

[Chorus of ayes.] 

All those opposed, no. 

[No response.] 

In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it, and the measures 

considered en bloc are agreed to. So, without objection, H.R. 1493 

and House Concurrent Resolution 40 are ordered favorably reported, and H.R. 237, H.R. 500, H.R. 907, H.R. 1567, and House 

Resolution 50, are ordered favorably reported, as amended. And 

staff is directed to make any technical and conforming changes. 

Also, without objection, the Chair is authorized to seek House 

consideration of any of today’s measures under suspension of the 

rules. 

And that concludes our business for today, and I want to thank 

again, Ranking Member Engel, and all of our committee members 

for their contributions and assistance in today’s markup. 

The committee is adjourned. 

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