COURT OF APPEALS

EIGHTH DISTRICT OF TEXAS

EL PASO, TEXAS

THE STATE OF TEXAS,

 Appellant, 

v. 

CLEVY MUCHETTE NELSON, 

 Appellee. 

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No. 08-22-00174-CR

Appeal from the 

210th Judicial District Court

of El Paso County, Texas 

(TC# 20210D02380) 

DISSENTING OPINION

I write separately because I disagree with the second part of the Court’s analysis whereby 

it reverses the trial court’s suppression ruling. After reviewing the transcript of the suppression 

hearing, and viewing as well, the digital recording of Nelson’s audio and video statement, and 

doing so in the light most favorable to the trial court’s ruling, I would conclude the trial court 

properly suppressed the challenged evidence based on a violation of Nelson’s constitutional rights.

Because the majority concludes otherwise, I respectfully dissent.

A. Fifth Amendment right to interrogation counsel

The Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution prohibits the government from 

compelling a criminal suspect to bear witness against herself. U.S. CONST. amend. V (“No person

. . . shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against [herself]. . . .”). In Pecina v. 
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State, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals described the procedural safeguards protecting such 

right against self-incrimination. 361 S.W.3d 68, 75 (Tex. Crim. App. 2012). First, the Court 

described that the United States Supreme Court “crafted safeguards to protect this ‘privilege 

against self-incrimination’ in the inherently coercive atmosphere of custodial interrogations.” 

Pecina, 361 S.W.3d at 75 (quoting Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436, 441 (1966)). As relevant 

here, “[b]efore questioning a suspect who is in custody, police must give that person Miranda

warnings.” Id. “Only if the person voluntarily and intelligently waives [her] Miranda rights, 

including the right to have an attorney present during questioning, may [her] statement be 

introduced into evidence against [her] at trial.” Id. Second, “once a person invokes [her] right to 

have counsel present during custodial interrogation, a valid waiver of that right cannot be 

established by merely showing that the suspect responded to police-initiated interrogation after 

being advised of [her] rights again.” Id. (citing Edwards v. Arizona, 451 U.S. 477, 485 (1981)).

Pecina explained: “[t]he purpose of the Edwards rule is to ‘prevent police from badgering a 

defendant into waiving [her] previously asserted Miranda rights.’” Id. (quoting Michigan v. 

Harvey, 494 U.S. 344, 350 (1990)). “That prophylactic rule protects the suspect—who has made 

the decision not to speak to law-enforcement officers without [her] lawyer and clearly 

communicated that decision to the police—from further police badgering.” Id. Based on these 

safeguards, we are instructed that a trial court commits a constitutional violation by admitting 

evidence that Miranda and its progeny proscribes. Contreras v. State, 312 S.W.3d 566, 582 

(Tex. Crim. App. 2010) (providing that Miranda operates as an exclusionary rule when law 

enforcement fails to honor an invocation of rights and no exception applies).
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B. Nelson’s invocation of her right to counsel

The majority initially decides the record established that law enforcement officers created 

a situation that would lead a reasonable person in Nelson’s position to believe their freedom of 

movement had been significantly restricted. Thus, the Court concludes the trial court did not abuse 

its discretion when it impliedly found Nelson was in custody when she was questioned by law 

enforcement. On that preliminary point, I fully agree. It follows, then, that police were obligated 

to give Miranda warnings including the right to counsel during questioning. No party disputes that 

Miranda warnings were given prior to the start of questioning. Rather, in dispute is whether the 

officers honored Nelson’s request for counsel, which followed such reading of rights.

First, in looking at Nelson’s initial invocation of her right to have counsel present to advise 

her prior to or during questioning, a court must determine whether the officers honored her request. 

When a suspect asks for a lawyer, interrogation must cease until counsel has been provided 

or the suspect herself initiates further communication. Davis v. State, 313 S.W.3d 317, 339 

(Tex. Crim. App. 2010) (citing Edwards, 451 U.S. at 484–85). To trigger law enforcement’s duty 

to terminate the interrogation, the suspect’s request must be clear. Id. Moreover, “[i]f the accused’s 

invocation of the right to counsel is clear, [her] responses to further questioning may not be used 

to cast doubt retrospectively on the clarity of [her] initial request.” Davis, 313 S.W.3d at 339 (citing 

Smith v. Illinois, 469 U.S. 91, 100 (1984)).

At the start of the interview, Detective Garcia properly warned Nelson that before he could 

ask her any questions, he needed to advise her of her rights. After he reads the Miranda warnings, 

he then turns to Nelson requesting that she confirm her knowing, intelligent, and voluntary waiver 

of rights he had just read. Nelson responds saying, “I’d like to speak to my attorney.” Garcia 

replies: “You want to speak to your attorney?” Nelson seemingly mumbles or nods her head.
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Garcia next says: “So, we can’t ask you nothing then. We’re going to have to terminate the 

interview. Okay. We don’t know what happened. That was the whole reason why. Okay. So, we-

- the only way we can know what happened is if we talk to you. But if you request an attorney the 

interview will be terminated.”

Nelson responds, “Can he just come here?” Detective Garcia says, “Can who come here?” 

She clarifies, “My attorney.” He responds: “I don’t know who your attorney is.” Nelson replies: 

“It’s the military, Chief of Justice.” Garcia replies: “I don’t. I mean. Again, I’m assuming you’re 

military then, correct? You’re active? I don’t know how that works. I don’t -- we don’t deal with 

them. Okay. Like I said our whole purpose here was to find out what happened this morning ‘cause

we don’t know what happened. Okay. But before we can ask you any questions, we have to advise 

you of your rights. Okay. If you’re requesting an attorney, then we have to terminate the interview 

and we can’t ask you anything. Okay.” Nelson next says: “Is it a lot of questions?” He responds: 

“Well we’re going to ask you what happened this morning because we don’t know what happened

this morning. That’s the main question. And we were just going to hear you.”

After a slight pause, Nelson says: “I have strep throat. But I can answer the questions.” 

Detective Garcia says: “So, then you’re saying that you change your mind, and you will talk to us. 

So, you do understand your rights and you hereby knowingly, intelligently, and voluntarily waive 

these rights then and you’ll speak to us.” After a slight pause, Nelson says: “Yes.” Garcia then 

reconfirms her willingness to waive her rights. Throughout this exchange, neither Detective Garcia 

nor his partner ever moved from their seated position in chairs they had positioned directly across 

from Nelson. She herself sat in a chair across from them while dressed in a hospital gown.

At the motion hearing and on appeal, the State readily conceded that Nelson immediately 

invoked her right to counsel by stating she wanted to talk to her attorney before confirming whether 
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she intended to waive any of her Miranda rights. Indeed, the recorded interview plainly shows that

when Detective Garcia asked whether she knowingly and voluntarily waived her rights, she 

immediately requested an opportunity to speak with her attorney. Rather than cease the interview, 

Detective Garcia plowed forward casting doubt on her request. He asked questions clarifying 

whether she actually wanted an attorney, told her he did not know who her attorney was, and 

repeated multiple times that they were simply trying to find out what happened. For our purposes, 

however, statements made after an unequivocal request “may not be used to cast retrospective 

doubt on the clarity of the initial request itself.” See State v. Gobert, 275 S.W.3d 888, 893 

(Tex. Crim. App. 2009) (quoting Smith v. Illinois, 469 U.S. 91, 100 (1984)) (holding an 

unequivocal invocation of a right to counsel was not honored by officers when a suspect 

immediately invoked his rights stating, “I don’t want to give up any right, though if I don’t got no 

lawyer”).

In my view, Nelson’s initial invocation was unambiguous and unequivocal. She repeated 

it at least twice, before asking a third time whether her attorney could “just come here.” However, 

Detective Garcia continued with a series of statements, without interruption or pausing, persuading 

her to let them know what had happened regarding events of the early morning. Ignoring her

plainly stated request for counsel during questioning, Detective Garcia mentioned that “if” she 

requested an attorney “the interview will be terminated.” Characterizing his own conduct at the 

suppression hearing, Garcia testified that he immediately terminated the interview. That is, as he 

viewed the totality of the circumstances, he believed Nelson understood he had terminated the 

interview. Because the trial court granted the motion to suppress, there is an implied finding that 

it disbelieved Detective Garcia and concluded otherwise. Unlike the majority, I would conclude 
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the record supports the trial court’s determination that Nelson’s exercise of her right to counsel 

was not honored by an immediate termination of her interrogation by police.

C. No bursting of the Edwards bubble by Nelson

Even assuming Detective Garcia terminated the interview midstream, I further disagree 

with the majority’s conclusion that Nelson herself reinitiated conversation or communication about 

the case. Law enforcement must wait for counsel to be available to a suspect, unless the suspect 

herself “initiates further communication, exchanges, or conversations with the police.” Edwards, 

451 U.S. at 484–85. Under the two-step analysis, we determine, first, whether there is proof that 

the suspect, and not law enforcement, reinitiates communication after invoking the right to 

counsel. Cross v. State, 144 S.W.3d 521, 527 (Tex. Crim. App. 2004). A suspect’s desire to 

reinitiate can be shown by “a willingness and a desire for a generalized discussion about the 

investigation[.]” Oregon v. Bradshaw, 462 U.S. 1039, 1045–46 (1983). Second, we determine 

whether there is proof that after the suspect reinitiates communication, the suspect validly waives 

the right to counsel. Cross, 144 S.W.3d at 527.

First, the majority concludes that Detective Garcia’s statements to Nelson after her 

invocation of her right to counsel did not rise to a level of continuing his questioning or 

interrogation. Distinguishing between the right to counsel and the right to remain silent, the Court 

holds that once a suspect invokes her right to counsel, only interrogation-type questions must 

cease. It views Detective Garcia’s statements as non-interrogational because they were not 

reasonably likely to elicit an incriminating response. Again, I disagree. As discussed above, the 

record supports an implied finding that Detective Garcia did not honor her invocation of her right 

to counsel because he never terminated the interview, but instead, he attempted to retrospectively 

cast doubt on her invocation. See Gobert, 275 S.W.3d at 893.
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The majority further concludes that after Nelson invoked her right to interrogation counsel, 

she “almost immediately reinitiated the interview after clearly being told it would terminate.” 

Without describing a basis for its reasoning, the majority concludes the record shows Nelson 

expressed a “willingness and a desire for a generalized discussion about the investigation.” I 

disagree. From my view, the record does not support that Nelson expressed her willingness and 

desire to talk without her counsel’s presence by simply asking how many questions would be 

asked. Nelson so inquired only after Detective Garcia ignored her clearly stated request for 

counsel, repeated that he did not know anything about how counsel could be obtained, and told 

her he was simply trying to understand what had occurred earlier that morning.

The Court of Criminal Appeals has described that when a defendant invokes a right to 

counsel, that invocation creates a protective Edwards bubble, “insulating [her] from any further 

police-initiated questioning.” Cross, 144 S.W.3d at 529. “Only the suspect [herself] can burst that 

bubble by both initiating communications with police and expressly waiving [her] right to 

counsel.” Id. “Once that bubble is burst, however, Edwards disappears, and the police are free to 

reinitiate any future communications and obtain any further statements as long as each statement 

is voluntarily made after the waiver of Miranda rights.” Id.

Following that principle, this Court has held that a defendant reinitiated further 

communication with detectives when he expressed a desire to tell his story. Engleton v. State, 

No. 08-13-00077-CR, 2015 WL 1285202, at *4 (Tex. App.—El Paso Mar. 20, 2015, no pet.) (not 

designated for publication). In that case, the defendant was placed under arrest and read his 

Miranda rights. Id. at *2. The defendant stated he did not want to talk and wanted to get 

representation. Id. The detectives immediately terminated the interview, asked him nothing further, 

and placed him in a holding cell. Id. Minutes later, however, he flagged a detective down, stated 
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he wanted to speak to the detectives he had met with before, and expressed a desire to tell his side 

of the story. Id.

Contrasted with Engleton, there are no similar details in this case. There was no termination 

of the interview once Nelson invoked the protective Edwards bubble. And it was Detective Garcia 

who continued expressing his own desire to speak with her without delay as he otherwise did not 

know what had happened that morning. He expressed ignorance in how she might be able to access 

an attorney, describing he did not know how that worked. Only then did Nelson ask the number of 

questions he wanted her to answer. The State argues that “Detective Garcia reasonably could have 

interpreted her question as relating generally to the investigation, and the fact that he reaffirmed 

that Nelson wanted to waive her rights before commencing with the interview shows that he 

interpreted her question in this manner.” In my view, however, neither the record nor the trial 

court’s implied finding supports that supposed inference. The trial court’s ruling on a motion to 

suppress will be upheld if it is reasonably supported by the record and is correct under any theory 

of law applicable to the case. Ramos v. State, 245 S.W.3d 410, 417–18 (Tex. Crim. App. 2008). 

Standing apart from the majority, I would conclude the record here supports the trial court’s 

implied finding that neither Miranda nor Edwards were satisfied. Thus, I would affirm the trial 

court’s judgment.

GINA M. PALAFOX, Justice 

June 28, 2023

Before Rodriguez, C.J., Palafox and Soto, JJ.

(Do Not Publish)