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75–665 2012

[H.A.S.C. No. 112–141] 

DISCLOSURES OF NATIONAL SECURITY 

INFORMATION AND IMPACT ON 

MILITARY OPERATIONS 

COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES 

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 

ONE HUNDRED TWELFTH CONGRESS 

SECOND SESSION 

HEARING HELD 

JULY 18, 2012 
(II) 

HOUSE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES 

ONE HUNDRED TWELFTH CONGRESS

HOWARD P. ‘‘BUCK’’ MCKEON, California, Chairman 

ROSCOE G. BARTLETT, Maryland 

MAC THORNBERRY, Texas 

WALTER B. JONES, North Carolina 

W. TODD AKIN, Missouri 

J. RANDY FORBES, Virginia 

JEFF MILLER, Florida 

JOE WILSON, South Carolina 

FRANK A. LOBIONDO, New Jersey 

MICHAEL TURNER, Ohio 

JOHN KLINE, Minnesota 

MIKE ROGERS, Alabama 

TRENT FRANKS, Arizona 

BILL SHUSTER, Pennsylvania 

K. MICHAEL CONAWAY, Texas 

DOUG LAMBORN, Colorado 

ROB WITTMAN, Virginia 

DUNCAN HUNTER, California 

JOHN C. FLEMING, M.D., Louisiana 

MIKE COFFMAN, Colorado 

TOM ROONEY, Florida 

TODD RUSSELL PLATTS, Pennsylvania 

SCOTT RIGELL, Virginia 

CHRIS GIBSON, New York 

VICKY HARTZLER, Missouri 

JOE HECK, Nevada 

BOBBY SCHILLING, Illinois 

JON RUNYAN, New Jersey 

AUSTIN SCOTT, Georgia 

TIM GRIFFIN, Arkansas 

STEVEN PALAZZO, Mississippi 

ALLEN B. WEST, Florida 

MARTHA ROBY, Alabama 

MO BROOKS, Alabama 

TODD YOUNG, Indiana 

ADAM SMITH, Washington 

SILVESTRE REYES, Texas 

LORETTA SANCHEZ, California 

MIKE MCINTYRE, North Carolina 

ROBERT A. BRADY, Pennsylvania 

ROBERT ANDREWS, New Jersey 

SUSAN A. DAVIS, California 

JAMES R. LANGEVIN, Rhode Island 

RICK LARSEN, Washington 

JIM COOPER, Tennessee 

MADELEINE Z. BORDALLO, Guam 

JOE COURTNEY, Connecticut 

DAVE LOEBSACK, Iowa 

NIKI TSONGAS, Massachusetts 

CHELLIE PINGREE, Maine 

LARRY KISSELL, North Carolina 

MARTIN HEINRICH, New Mexico 

BILL OWENS, New York 

JOHN R. GARAMENDI, California 

MARK S. CRITZ, Pennsylvania 

TIM RYAN, Ohio 

HANK JOHNSON, Georgia 

BETTY SUTTON, Ohio 

COLLEEN HANABUSA, Hawaii 

KATHLEEN C. HOCHUL, New York 

JACKIE SPEIER, California 

RON BARBER, Arizona 

ROBERT L. SIMMONS II, Staff Director 

CATHERINE MCELROY, Counsel 

PAUL LEWIS, Counsel 

MICHAEL CASEY, Professional Staff Member 

LAUREN HAUHN, Research Assistant 
(III) 

C O N T E N T S 

CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF HEARINGS 

2012 

Page 

HEARING: 

Wednesday, July 18, 2012, Disclosures of National Security Information and 

Impact on Military Operations ........................................................................... 1 

APPENDIX: 

Wednesday, July 18, 2012 ....................................................................................... 9 

WEDNESDAY, JULY 18, 2012 

DISCLOSURES OF NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION AND IMPACT 

ON MILITARY OPERATIONS 

STATEMENTS PRESENTED BY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS 

McKeon, Hon. Howard P. ‘‘Buck,’’ a Representative from California, Chairman, Committee on Armed Services .................................................................. 1 

APPENDIX 

DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD: 

Roll Call #35, Motion to Close Full Committee Hearing on Disclosures 

of National Security Information and Impact on Military Operations ..... 13 

(1) 

DISCLOSURES OF NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION 

AND IMPACT ON MILITARY OPERATIONS 

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES, Washington, DC, Wednesday, July 18, 2012. 

The committee met, pursuant to call, at 10:12 a.m., in room 

2118, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Howard P. ‘‘Buck’’ 

McKeon (chairman of the committee) presiding. 

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. HOWARD P. ‘‘BUCK’’ MCKEON, 

A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CALIFORNIA, CHAIRMAN, COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES 

The CHAIRMAN. The hearing will come to order. Good morning. 

The House Armed Services Committee [HASC] meets to receive 

testimony on disclosures of national security information and impact on military operations. The committee will receive testimony 

and discuss matters that if disclosed in a public hearing would endanger national security and therefore requires the hearing to be 

closed to the public. 

Clause 2(g)(2) of House Rule XI and Committee Rule 9(a) requires the committee to vote by record vote in open session with 

a majority present to close the hearing to the public. We have 

scheduled this vote on the disclosure of national security information hearing today. We will not conduct opening statements for this 

hearing today. Immediately after the vote to close, we will recess 

this hearing and proceed with the sequestration hearing. As previously announced, the committee will resume the hearing on disclosure of national security information in closed session for Members only at 10 a.m. on Thursday with a swept hearing room. 

Finally, let me remind Members that we will follow the normal 

before and after gavel attendance list in determining the order for 

questioning witnesses. This means that when we reconvene this 

hearing in closed session on Thursday, we will follow the Member 

order established today at the gavel. 

The chair now recognizes the gentleman from Texas, Mr. Thornberry, vice chair of the HASC, for the purpose of a motion. 

Mr. THORNBERRY. Mr. Chairman, pursuant to House Rule XI 

clause 2(g) and Committee Rule 9, I move that the remainder of 

today’s hearing on the disclosures of national security information 

and impact on military operations and proceedings up to five additional consecutive days of hearings on this subject shall be closed 

to the public because disclosure of testimony, evidence, and other 

matters to be considered would endanger national security. 

The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the motion of the gentleman 

from Texas, Mr. Thornberry. 
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So many as are in favor will vote aye. 

Those opposed no. House and committee rules require a recorded 

vote. The clerk will call the roll. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. McKeon? 

The CHAIRMAN. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. McKeon votes aye. 

Mr. Smith? 

Mr. SMITH. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Smith votes aye. 

Mr. Bartlett? 

Mr. BARTLETT. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Bartlett votes aye. 

Mr. Reyes? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Reyes? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Thornberry? 

Mr. THORNBERRY. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Thornberry votes aye. 

Ms. Sanchez? 

Ms. SANCHEZ. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Ms. Sanchez votes aye. 

Mr. Jones? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Jones? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. McIntyre? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. McIntyre? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Akin? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Akin? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Brady? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Brady? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Forbes? 

Mr. FORBES. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Forbes votes aye. 

Mr. Andrews? 

Mr. ANDREWS. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Andrews votes aye. 

Mr. Miller? 

Mr. MILLER. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Miller votes aye. 

Mrs. Davis? 

Mrs. DAVIS. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mrs. Davis votes aye. 

Mr. Wilson? 

Mr. WILSON. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Wilson votes aye. 

Mr. Langevin? 
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Mr. LANGEVIN. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Langevin votes aye. 

Mr. LoBiondo? 

Mr. LOBIONDO. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. LoBiondo votes aye. 

Mr. Larsen? 

Mr. LARSEN. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Larsen votes aye. 

Mr. Turner? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Turner? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Cooper? 

Mr. COOPER. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Cooper votes aye. 

Mr. Kline? 

Mr. KLINE. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Kline votes aye. 

Ms. Bordallo? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Ms. Bordallo? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Rogers? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Rogers? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Courtney? 

Mr. COURTNEY. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Courtney votes aye. 

Mr. Franks? 

Mr. FRANKS. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Franks votes aye. 

Mr. Loebsack? 

Mr. LOEBSACK. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Loebsack votes aye. 

Mr. Shuster? 

Mr. SHUSTER. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Shuster votes aye. 

Ms. Tsongas? 

Ms. TSONGAS. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Ms. Tsongas votes aye. 

Mr. Conaway? 

Mr. CONAWAY. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Conaway votes aye. 

Ms. Pingree? 

Ms. PINGREE. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Ms. Pingree votes aye. 

Mr. Lamborn? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Lamborn? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Kissell? 

Mr. KISSELL. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Kissell votes aye. 
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Mr. Wittman? 

Mr. WITTMAN. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Wittman votes aye. 

Mr. Heinrich? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Heinrich? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Hunter? 

Mr. HUNTER. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Hunter votes aye. 

Mr. Owens? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Owens? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Dr. Fleming? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Dr. Fleming? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Garamendi? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Garamendi? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Coffman? 

Mr. COFFMAN. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Coffman votes aye. 

Mr. Critz? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Critz? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Rooney? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Rooney? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Ryan? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Ryan? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Platts? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Platts? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Johnson? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Johnson? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Rigell? 

Mr. RIGELL. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Rigell votes aye. 

Ms. Sutton? 

Ms. SUTTON. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Ms. Sutton votes aye. 

Mr. Gibson? 

Mr. GIBSON. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Gibson votes aye. 
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Ms. Hanabusa? 

Ms. HANABUSA. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Ms. Hanabusa votes aye. 

Mrs. Hartzler? 

Mrs. HARTZLER. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mrs. Hartzler votes aye. 

Ms. Hochul? 

Ms. HOCHUL. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Ms. Hochul votes aye. 

Dr. Heck? 

Dr. HECK. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Dr. Heck votes aye. 

Ms. Speier? 

Ms. SPEIER. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Ms. Speier votes aye. 

Mr. Schilling? 

Mr. SCHILLING. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Schilling votes aye. 

Mr. Barber? 

Mr. BARBER. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Barber votes aye. 

Mr. Runyan? 

Mr. RUNYAN. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Runyan votes aye. 

Mr. Scott? 

Mr. SCOTT. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Scott votes aye. 

Mr. Griffin? 

Mr. GRIFFIN. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Griffin votes aye. 

Mr. Palazzo? 

Mr. PALAZZO. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Palazzo votes aye. 

Mr. West? 

Mr. WEST. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. West votes aye. 

Mrs. Roby? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mrs. Roby? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Brooks? 

Mr. BROOKS. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Brooks votes aye. 

Mr. Young? 

Mr. YOUNG. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Young votes aye. 

Mr. Reyes? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Reyes? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Jones? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Jones? 

[No response.] 
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Ms. PEARCE. Mr. McIntyre? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. McIntyre? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Akin? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Akin? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Brady? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Brady? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Turner? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Turner? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Ms. Bordallo? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Ms. Bordallo? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Rogers? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Rogers? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Lamborn? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Lamborn? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Heinrich? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Heinrich? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Owens? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Owens? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Dr. Fleming? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Dr. Fleming? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Garamendi? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Garamendi? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Critz? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Critz? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Rooney? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Rooney? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Ryan? 

[No response.] 
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Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Ryan? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Platts? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Platts? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Johnson? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Johnson? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Johnson? 

Mr. JOHNSON. Aye. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Johnson votes aye. 

Mrs. Roby? 

[No response.] 

Ms. PEARCE. Mrs. Roby? 

The CHAIRMAN. Is there any Member who hasn’t voted? The clerk 

will report the tally. 

Ms. PEARCE. Mr. Chairman, there are 44 ayes. 

The CHAIRMAN. A majority of the committee being present, the 

motion is agreed to. Pursuant to the previously adopted motion, I 

ask unanimous consent that the chair be authorized to declare a 

recess. 

Without objection, so ordered. 

The chair declares this hearing in recess. We will resume this 

hearing in closed session tomorrow, July 19th, at 10 a.m. in this 

building, 2118. 

We will now move into the sequestration hearing as soon as the 

witnesses have taken their place at the table. This hearing will 

now be in recess. 

[Whereupon, at 10:22 a.m., the committee was recessed, to reconvene at 10:00 a.m., July 19, 2012, in closed session.] 

A P P E N D I X 

JULY 18, 2012 

DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD 

JULY 18, 2012 

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