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Mr. MCDERMOTT was recognized to

speak to the point of order, and said:

‘‘Yes, Mr. Speaker.

‘‘Mr. Speaker, if I understand the ruling the Chair is about to make, you are

saying for those who do not understand

arcane tax law, if we raise taxes on

people but we do it in a sneaky, kind of

back-door way of doing it, that, Mr.

Speaker, if we do it in a legislatively,

carefully crafted way, we can get away

with it. If we do it straight out and say

to small business, your taxes go from

14 percent to 19 percent just like that,

that would require a 60-percent vote.

But if we can find some way

parliamentarily to swing around it,

whatever the effect on people is does

not make any difference.

‘‘Is that what the Chair is saying?’’.

Mr. LINDER was recognized to speak

to the point of order, and said:

‘‘Mr. Speaker, this does not seem all

that complicated. It does not change

any rates of taxation of capital gains.

It excludes 50 percent of the gain.

Therefore, you are taxed at the 39.6-

percent tax rate. Fifty percent of any

gain would be excluded, giving an effective rate of 19.8 percent, a lower effective rate.

‘‘If you happen to be taxed at a 35-

percent tax rate, 50 percent of the gain

would be excluded, giving you a 17.5-

percent tax. It lowers the effective rate

in every instance by excluding half of

the gain from any taxation at all.’’.

The SPEAKER pro tempore, Mr.

DREIER, overruled the point of order,

and said:

‘‘The Chair is prepared to rule.

‘‘In deference to the specialized expertise that has been provided, the

Chair rules that this bill does not include a Federal income tax rate increase.’’.

Mr. MORAN appealed the ruling of

the Chair.

Mr. ARCHER moved to lay the appeal on the table.

The question being put, viva voce,

Will the House lay on the table the

appeal of the ruling of the Chair?

The SPEAKER pro tempore, Mr.

DREIER, announced that the nays had

it.

Mr. MFUME demanded a recorded

vote on agreeing to said motion, which

demand was supported by one-fifth of a

quorum, so a recorded vote was ordered.

The vote was taken by electronic device.

It was decided in the Yeas ....... 228 ! affirmative ................... Nays ...... 204

T56.16 [Roll No. 294]

AYES—228

Allard

Archer

Armey

Bachus

Baker (CA)

Baker (LA)

Ballenger

Barr

Barrett (NE)

Bartlett

Barton

Bass

Bateman

Bereuter

Bilbray

Bilirakis

Bliley

Blute

Boehlert

Boehner

Bonilla

Bono

Brownback

Bryant (TN)

Bunn

Bunning

Burr

Burton

Buyer

Callahan

Calvert

Camp

Canady

Castle

Chabot

Chambliss

Chenoweth

Christensen

Chrysler

Clinger

Coble

Coburn

Collins (GA)

Combest

Cooley

Cox

Crane

Crapo

Cremeans

Cubin

Cunningham

Davis

DeLay

Diaz-Balart

Dickey

Doolittle

Dornan

Dreier

Duncan

Dunn

Ehlers

Ehrlich

Emerson

English

Ensign

Everett

Ewing

Fawell

Fields (TX)

Flanagan

Foley

Forbes

Fowler

Fox

Franks (CT)

Frelinghuysen

Frisa

Funderburk

Gallegly

Ganske

Gekas

Gilchrest

Gillmor

Gilman

Gingrich

Goodlatte

Goodling

Goss

Graham

Greenwood

Gunderson

Gutknecht

Hancock

Hansen

Hastert

Hastings (WA)

Hayworth

Hefley

Heineman

Herger

Hilleary

Hobson

Hoekstra

Hoke

Horn

Hostettler

Houghton

Hunter

Hutchinson

Hyde

Inglis

Istook

Johnson (CT)

Johnson, Sam

Jones

Kasich

Kelly

Kim

King

Kingston

Klug

Knollenberg

Kolbe

LaHood

Largent

Latham

LaTourette

Lazio

Leach

Lewis (CA)

Lewis (KY)

Lightfoot

Linder

Livingston

LoBiondo

Longley

Lucas

Manzullo

Martini

McCollum

McCrery

McDade

McHugh

McInnis

McIntosh

McKeon

Metcalf

Meyers

Mica

Miller (FL)

Molinari

Moorhead

Morella

Myers

Myrick

Nethercutt

Neumann

Ney

Norwood

Nussle

Oxley

Packard

Paxon

Petri

Pombo

Porter

Portman

Pryce

Quillen

Quinn

Radanovich

Ramstad

Regula

Riggs

Roberts

Rogers

Rohrabacher

Ros-Lehtinen

Roth

Roukema

Royce

Salmon

Sanford

Saxton

Scarborough

Schaefer

Schiff

Seastrand

Sensenbrenner

Shadegg

Shaw

Shays

Shuster

Skeen

Smith (MI)

Smith (NJ)

Smith (TX)

Smith (WA)

Solomon

Spence

Stearns

Stockman

Stump

Talent

Tate

Taylor (NC)

Thomas

Thornberry

Tiahrt

Torkildsen

Upton

Vucanovich

Waldholtz

Walker

Walsh

Wamp

Watts (OK)

Weldon (FL)

Weldon (PA)

Weller

White

Whitfield

Wicker

Wolf

Young (AK)

Young (FL)

Zeliff

Zimmer

NOES—204

Abercrombie

Ackerman

Andrews

Baesler

Baldacci

Barcia

Barrett (WI)

Becerra

Beilenson

Bentsen

Berman

Bevill

Bishop

Bonior

Borski

Boucher

Brewster

Browder

Brown (CA)

Brown (FL)

Brown (OH)

Bryant (TX)

Cardin

Chapman

Clay

Clayton

Clement

Clyburn

Coleman

Collins (IL)

Collins (MI)

Condit

Conyers

Costello

Coyne

Cramer

Danner

de la Garza

Deal

DeFazio

DeLauro

Dellums

Deutsch

Dicks

Dingell

Dixon

Doggett

Dooley

Doyle

Durbin

Edwards

Engel

Eshoo

Evans

Farr

Fattah

Fazio

Fields (LA)

Filner

Flake

Foglietta

Ford

Frank (MA)

Frost

Furse

Gejdenson

Gephardt

Geren

Gibbons

Gonzalez

Gordon

Green

Gutierrez

Hall (OH)

Hall (TX)

Hamilton

Harman

Hastings (FL)

Hayes

Hefner

Hilliard

Hinchey

Holden

Hoyer

Jackson-Lee

Jacobs

Jefferson

Johnson (SD)

Johnson, E.B.

Johnston

Kanjorski

Kaptur

Kennedy (MA)

Kennedy (RI)

Kennelly

Kildee

Kleczka

Klink

LaFalce

Lantos

Laughlin

Levin

Lewis (GA)

Lincoln

Lipinski

Lofgren

Lowey

Luther

Maloney

Manton

Markey

Martinez

Mascara

Matsui

McCarthy

McDermott

McHale

McKinney

McNulty

Meehan

Meek

Menendez

Mfume

Miller (CA)

Mineta

Minge

Mink

Moakley

Mollohan

Montgomery

Moran

Murtha

Nadler

Neal

Oberstar

Obey

Olver

Ortiz

Orton

Owens

Pallone

Parker

Pastor

Payne (NJ)

Payne (VA)

Pelosi

Peterson (FL)

Peterson (MN)

Pickett

Pomeroy

Poshard

Rahall

Rangel

Reed

Richardson

Rivers

Roemer

Rose

Roybal-Allard

Rush

Sabo

Sanders

Sawyer

Schroeder

Schumer

Scott

Serrano

Sisisky

Skaggs

Skelton

Slaughter

Spratt

Stark

Stenholm

Stokes

Studds

Stupak

Tanner

Tauzin

Taylor (MS)

Tejeda

Thompson

Thornton

Thurman

Torres

Torricelli

Towns

Traficant

Tucker

Velazquez

Vento

Visclosky

Volkmer

Ward

Waters

Watt (NC)

Waxman

Williams

Wilson

Wise

Woolsey

Wyden

Wynn

Yates

NOT VOTING—3

Franks (NJ) Reynolds Souder

So the motion to lay the appeal on

the table was agreed to.

A motion to reconsider the vote

whereby said motion was agreed to

was, by unanimous consent, laid on the

table.

The question being put, viva voce,

Will the House pass said bill?

The SPEAKER pro tempore, Mr.

DREIER, announced that the yeas had

it.

Mr. GIBBONS demanded a recorded

vote on passage of said bill, which demand was supported by one-fifth of a

quorum, so a recorded vote was ordered.

The vote was taken by electronic device.

It was decided in the Yeas ....... 246 ! affirmative ................... Nays ...... 188

T56.17 [Roll No. 295]

AYES—246

Allard

Andrews

Archer

Armey

Bachus

Baker (CA)

Baker (LA)

Ballenger

Barr

Barrett (NE)

Bartlett

Barton

Bass

Bateman

Bereuter

Bevill

Bilbray

Bilirakis

Bliley

Boehlert

Boehner

Bonilla

Bono

Brewster

Browder

Brownback

Bryant (TN)

Bunn

Bunning

Burr

Burton

Buyer

Callahan

Calvert

Camp

Canady

Castle

Chabot

Chambliss

Chenoweth

Christensen

Chrysler

Clement

Clinger

Coble

Coburn

Collins (GA)

Combest

Condit

Cooley

Cox

Cramer

Crane

Crapo

Cremeans

Cubin

Cunningham

Danner

Deal

DeLay

Diaz-Balart

Dickey

Doolittle

Dornan

Dreier

Duncan

Dunn

Ehlers

Ehrlich

Emerson

English

Ensign

Everett

Ewing

Fawell

Fields (TX)

Flanagan

Foley

Forbes

Fowler

Fox

Franks (CT)

Franks (NJ)

Frelinghuysen

Frisa

Funderburk

Gallegly

Ganske

Gekas

Geren

Gilchrest

Gillmor

Gilman

Gingrich

Goodlatte

Goodling