From:WesPatterson[mailto:wes.patterson@us.abb.com]Sent:Wednesday,September21,20119:23PMTo:richardparkerdc@gmail.comCc:AaronMeyers;AndrewDelaski;ahoffman@publicpower.org;ArtRosenfeld;RobertBerman;BrianCoffey;BruceRHirsch;BruceSmith;ChrisBolduc;CaitlinJohnson;GaytanCavazosCarlos(GEEnergy,Non‐GE);CharlieDrexler;ChuckSimmons;DanCohen;DaveMillure;DanielYoung;Eric.Petersen@aksteel.com;GaryFernstrom;GregRosenquist;GregCoulter;JamesLass;JeremiahFreeman(CONTR);JerryCorkran;JerrySchoen;JerryHodge;JimCreevy;JoannaMauer;JohnCaskey;JohnCymbalsky;jrossetti@mlgw.org;kcoughlin@lbl.gov;KenWinder;MaheshP.Sampat;MichaelHyland;MichaelRivest;MegWaltner;PaulRyan;PhilHopkinson;pkumar@publicpower.org;RaymondPolinski;RobGreeson;RichardParker;RickAnderson;BobSaint;RobinRoy;ScottBeck;SteveNadel;SteveRosenstock;TimBallo;TomEckman;ZhimeiLuoSubject:Re:MVWorkingGroup:Follow‐uptoSept15/16MtgHiRichardFYI‐theAugustreleasecontainedtwodifferentefficiencyleveldefinitions‐onethatisburiedintheengineering_resultsspreadsheets(referredtoas"CSL")exfromtheDL1datatab‐asecondinthelcc_nia_coresteelsupplypdf(referredtoas"EfficiencyLevels")ex.Note:theCSL'sinthexls'saremoretechnicallysoundthanthoseinthepdf‐seecommentsinemailonissues.Whichshallweuseasthebasisofanalysisgoingforward?ThanksWesRichardParker<richardparkerdc@gmail.com>09/21/201106:06PMToahoffman@publicpower.org,pkumar@publicpower.org,AaronMeyers<Aaron.Meyers@cooperindustries.com>,AndrewDelaski<adelaski@standardsASAP.org>,ArtRosenfeld<artrosenfeld@gmail.com>,BobSaint<robert.saint@nreca.coop>,BrianCoffey<brian.coffey@navigant.com>,BruceRHirsch<bruce.r.hirsch@bge.com>,BruceSmith<bsmith@federalpacific.com>,CaitlinJohnson<Caitlin.Johnson@navigant.com>,CharlieDrexler<charlied@uus.org>,ChrisBolduc<cabolduc@lbl.gov>,ChuckSimmons<chuck.simmons@pgnmail.com>,DanCohen<daniel.cohen@hq.doe.gov>,DanielYoung<DYoung@energy‐solution.com>,DaveMillure<dave.millure@metglas.com>,"Eric.Petersen@aksteel.com"<Eric.Petersen@aksteel.com>,GaryFernstrom<gbf1@pge.com>,"GaytanCavazosCarlos(GEEnergy,Non‐GE)"<carlos.gaytan@ge.com>,GregCoulter<greg.coulter405@gmail.com>,GregRosenquist<GJRosenquist@lbl.gov>,JamesLass<James.Lass@cleco.com>,"JeremiahFreeman(CONTR)"<Jeremiah.Freeman@ee.doe.gov>,JerryCorkran<jerry.corkran@cooperindustries.com>,JerryHodge<jhodge@howard.com>,JerrySchoen<jerry.schoen@aksteel.com>,JimCreevy<Jim.Creevy@nema.org>,JoannaMauer<jmauer@standardsasap.org>,JohnCaskey<john.caskey@nema.org>,JohnCymbalsky<john.cymbalsky@ee.doe.gov>,"jrossetti@mlgw.org"<jrossetti@mlgw.org>,"kcoughlin@lbl.gov"<kcoughlin@lbl.gov>,KenWinder<kwinder@mleainc.com>,"MaheshP.Sampat"<maheshsampat@bellsouth.net>,MegWaltner<mwaltner@nrdc.org>,MichaelHyland<mhyland@appanet.org>,MichaelRivest<mrivest@navigant.com>,PaulRyan<Paul.Ryan@hitmet.com>,PhilHopkinson<phopkinson@hvolt.com>,RaymondPolinski<Raymond.Polinski@atimetals.com>,RichardParker<richardparkerdc@gmail.com>,RickAnderson<rick.anderson@faypwc.com>,RobGreeson<rgreeson@federalpacific.com>,RobertBerman<bermaneconomics@gmail.com>,RobinRoy<rroy@nrdc.org>,ScottBeck<ScottB@lvmetals.com>,SteveNadel<snadel@aceee.org>,SteveRosenstock<srosenstock@eei.org>,TimBallo<tballo@earthjustice.org>,TomEckman<Teckman@nwcouncil.org>,WesPatterson/SouthBoston/USTRA/ABB@ABB,ZhimeiLuo<zhimei.luo@navigant.com>ccSubject MVWorkingGroup:Follow‐uptoSept15/16MtgDearColleagues,Afewitemstofollow‐upformeetingofSept.15‐16whichIthoughtwasquiteproductive.GroundRulesAttachedforyourreviewaretheGroundRulesdiscussedandapprovedatourSept.15‐16meeting.Afterweadjournedonememberaskedformoretimetoallowin‐housecounseltoreviewthedocument.ThisisreasonablesoIamre‐openingthecommentperiodforthegroundrulestoallowfurthercomment,witharequestthatyoudoyourinternalreviewandsendalonganycommentsbycloseofbusinessonMonday,Sept.26,sothatwecandiscussanyproposedmodificationsonlineandhopefullyfinalizetheruleseitherbeforeoratthebeginningofthenextmeeting.Rememberthattheagreementallowsmodificationssoyouareneverbarredfromseekingchangestotheagreementthatyoudeemnecessaryorhelpful.ClarificationoftheSept.23"deadline"forcommentsontheEngineeringandLCC/NPVAnalysisAtthemeetingIaskedthatMembersreviewtherevisedEngineeringandLCC/PBP/NPVAnalysisnowpostedontheDOEwebsiteandsubmittheircomments/questions/critiquebySept.23sothatDOE/Navigant/LBLcanrespondinatimelywaywithclarifications,answersand/orfurtheranalysis.Aquestionhasarisenwhetherthiswillactashardandfastbartomethodologicalcritiqueslateron.Theanswerisno.Thedeadlineisaninformalone.Itdoesnotmeanthatadditionalconcernscannotberaisedlater.ItmeansthatwehopethatyouwillcarefullyexaminetheanalysisandgetusyourcommentsandconcernsbynolaterthanSept.23(andpreferablysooner)sothatNavigant/LBLcanrespondandwecandiscusshowbesttoproceedpriortothenextmeeting.Asapracticalmatter,thelateryourconcernsareputonthetablethemoredifficultitwillbetoaccommodatethemanalytically.Asyouconsideryourcomments,pleasekeepinmindthatdataarelimitedandresourcesarelimited.Thisproceedingisalreadyfaralonganalytically,andNavigant/LBLcannotatthisstageundertakeanexhaustivenewinvestigationthatentailsgatheringandanalyzinglargeamountsofnewdata.CSLsConcernswereexpressedatthemeetingaboutchangesintheCSLsandELsbetweentheAprilandtheAugustanalyses.Myunderstandingisthatabsentcompellingreasontochange,whichwedon'tforesee,theCSL'sthatappearintheAugustanalysiswillnotbealteredgoingforward.MiscellaneousIwillsendalongtranscript,minutes,andafirmscheduleforfuturemeetingsassoonastheyareavailable,whichIhopewillbeverysoon.Allbest,Richard[attachment"15Mtg.docx"deletedbyWesPatterson/SouthBoston/USTRA/ABB]