From: Nieves, JOE G

To: Orentzel, Richard (FAA)

Subject: RE: SAC extension and amendment request

Date: Monday, August 08, 2016 10:01:03 AM

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Richard,

That is correct two student pilots (SP) will be acting SIC on different legs. For example, during a

training flight one SP will act as SIC while the second SP seats in the back to help with  the checklist

during start-up and shutdown, observes the flight and helps with airspace surveillance and obstacle

avoidance. After our scheduled syllabus time, normally about an 1.2 flight, we have the SIC and

observer change seats and will fly another 1.2. This allows for both student pilots to participate in

aircraft run-ups and shutdown while witnessing the entire training flight.

Just for your information all SAC PICs are also FAA CFI/CFII and type rated.

v/r

J. Nieves

From: Richard.Orentzel@faa.gov [mailto:Richard.Orentzel@faa.gov] 

Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 9:37 AM

To: Nieves, JOE G (US)

Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: SAC extension and amendment request

Dear Mr. Nieves,

For clarification, are the two student pilots on training flights that you conduct each is acting as the

required SIC on a different leg, or is one potentially just an observer for the entire flight?  I also

wanted to clarify that the student pilots are not separate from the SIC on board the aircraft such

that they are both observers.      

Thanks very much,

Richard

From: Nieves, JOE G [mailto:joe.g.nieves@lmco.com] 

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:07 AM

To: Orentzel, Richard (FAA)

Subject: RE: SAC extension and amendment request

Richard

Thank you for your email. Attached is the latest fig. 5-88 table that I referenced in our petition.

With regards to customer representatives, if this petition is grated for the purpose of

demonstration flight and acceptance, Sikorsky Aircraft will conduct the missions with only mission

essential personnel as determine by the SAC PIC. For example on a demonstration flight or

acceptance flight where the customer is acting as SIC, the crew would be composed of a Sikorsky
Pilot (PIC) and customer pilot (SIC). Additionally, a crew chief or flight engineer would be part of the

crew as necessary.

For training missions we normally conduct training with two student pilots and crew chief as

required.

Thanks for your time and please feel to contact me anytime if you have additional questions.

Sincerely,

José G. Nieves

Chief Pilot, Standardization and Training 

Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation

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From: Richard.Orentzel@faa.gov [mailto:Richard.Orentzel@faa.gov] 

Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 5:43 PM

To: Nieves, JOE G (US)

Subject: EXTERNAL: SAC extension and amendment request

Dear Mr. Nieves,

I am the specialist assigned to review your exemption request dated June 7, 2016.  Please respond

to the questions below by email.  You may also call me, but it is not necessary to do so. 

Your request refers to Figure 5-88 in FAA Order 8900.1.  This figure has been removed from the

order.  Please supply the information that was formerly part of figure 5-88 for the different S-70

models. 

Who are the representatives of the customer who might be considered necessary to be on board a

demonstration flight, a training flight or an acceptance flight in a helicopter with a special

airworthiness certificate in the experimental category (could there be any other customer
representative other than the SIC)?   If the PIC determines additional SAC personnel are necessary

for the flight, are you anticipating anyone other than a crew chief, flight engineer, and/or an

additional SAC pilot?       

Sincerely,

Richard Orentzel

AFS-810

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