copyMEETINGOFTHENEWYORKSTATEDEPARTMENTOFENVIRONMENTALCONSERVATION11-1547thAvenueLongIslandCity,NewYorkJanuaryll,20122:15pm.@Telephone:2L2.349.9692Facsimile:2L2.557.2t52I]IRE1384Broadway19thFloorNewYork,NY10118ESQDEPOSIfIONSOLUTIONSMeetingJanuaryt7,201212{4q61B91011L213I415t61-718t9202I22231ALI25@ESQIJJ-BHTelephone:212ß49$692Facslmlte:212,557,21521384Broadway19thFloorNewYork,NY10118Page2APPBARANCESNEWYORKSTATEDEPARTMBNTOFENVTRONMENTALCONSERVAT]ONDIVISIONOFArRRESOURCES,REGTON211-1541Lr-AvenueLongIslandCity,NewYorkBY:CICILYNIRAPPEL,EnvironmentalEngineerIIPARESHSHAH,Environmental-EngineerIIPage3PROCBEDINGSMS.NIRAPPBL:ThisisanadministrativepublichearingwithalegislativeformatbeforetheNewYorkStateDepartmentofEnvironmental-ConservationinthematteroftheDepartment'sproposedrevísionstoRegulation6NYCRR,Parts21,9and248,andrevision?toSIPtoincorporatetheproposedrevisions.Thepurposeofthishearingistoreceivepubliccommentontheproposedprovisions.Ifyouwishtomakeastatement,pleasefilloutoneofthecardsandgiveittome.famCicilyNirappel,servingastheHearingOfficerfortheDepartment.Allpersons,organizations,corporations,orgovernmentagenciesthatmaybeaffectedbytheproposalsareinvitedtosubmiteitherwrittenororal-statements.Allstatementstakentoday,whetheroriginalorspoken,wí11beincorporatedintotheofficialrecordofthisproceeding.Ifyouhaveyourstatementinwriting,pleaseprovidemewithacopyforeaseoftranscription.Statementsarenotgivenunderoathnorwilltherebeanycross-examination.ftisonlynecessarytoattendoneofthefollowingsessionssinceacumulativerecordwillbecompiled.MeetingJanuary7J,20121234ÊJ61I91011T213L415I6t118L9202L22¿J2425@ESQ-IJJRHTelephone:212.349.9692Facslmlle:212,557,2L521384Bmadway19thFloorNewYork,NYf0118{BrlFecqudus1t34E61I9101_1L21_3L415L6L718T9202I22232425MeetingJanuary11,20!2Page4Writtenstatementsreceivedduringthepubliccommentperiodandoralstatementsmadeatthehearingwil-l-begivenequalweíght.Pl-easesubmitanyIengthystatementsinwriting.Ifyouwish,youmaysummarizesuchstatementsverbally.Vürittencommentscan'al-sobesubmittedtotheDepartmentviatheInternet.Not.iceofthehearingispublishedintheDecembert4,20tteditionoftheenvironmentalnoticebul-letin,stateregister,andalsoinvariousnevrspapers.Iwillnowcal-l-Mr.PareshShahoftheDivisionofAirServi-cestomakeabriefstatement.MR.SHAH:Goodafternoon.Thankyou,Judge.MynameisPareshShah.I'manenvironmentalengj-neerwiththeNewYorkStateDepartmentofEnvironmentalConservationíntheDivisi-onofAirResources.ThisisthehearingstatementforleadNAAQSInfrastructureAssessment.OnOctobert5,2008,theUnitedStatesBnvironmentalProtectionAgency,EPA,finalizedanew,morestringentnationalambientairqualitystandard,NAAQS,forl-ead.Thecl-earairsectionunderSection110(a)(1)requiresstatestosubmitaplanorinfrastructureassessmentwithinthreeyearsaftertherevisionofNAAQSdemonstratíngtheyhavethebasícairqualitymanagementprogramcomponentsinplacetoprovide@ESQ-TJJßHTelephone:272.349.9692Facslmlle212,557,27521384Broadway19thFloorNewYork,NY10118a1234tr61910I7L213L415L6t718t9)^2722ZJL¿+¿-JMeetingJanuary7f,2072Page5emission,mai-ntenance,andespeciallyenforcementofsuchastandardinthestate.Cl-eanAirActSection110(a)(2)liststhespecificel-ementstobeassessedintheinfrastructureassessment.OnOctober13,2017,theDepartmentsubmitteditsinfrastructureassessmentforthe2008l-eadNAAQStoBPA.Thisdocument,whichaffirmedthatthestatersairprogramhasthecapabilityandauthoritytoimplement,maintain,andenforcetheNAAQS,wassubmittedasarevisj-ont.otheNewYorkStateImplementationPl-an(srP).TheDepartmentisacceptingcommentsontheleadNAAQSinfrastructureassessmentthrough5:00p.m.onJanuary26,2OL2AcopyoftheinfrastructureassessmentisavailableontheDepartmentwebsiteorbycontactingMr.ScottGriffinat518-402-8396.CommentsmaybesubmittedbycontactingMr.Griffinorbye-mailingthemtoaírsipsGgw.dec.state.ny.us.@ESQ_rjJßHTelephone:2t2.349.9692Facslmlle:212,557.21521384Bmadway19thFloorNewYork,NY10118MeetingJanuary17,20L212?4567ö91011I213I415T6I71B19202L22232425@ESQTJTßHTelephone:212,349.9692Facslmlle:212,557,27521384Bmadway19thFloorNewYork,NY10118Page6MR.SHAH:Nowwewill-readthestatementofPart2L9intotherecord.Again,goodafternoon.MynameisPareshShah.IamanenvironmentalengineeroftheNewYorkStateDepartmentofEnvj-ronmentalConservationintheDivisionofAirResourcesTheDepartmentisproposingtoreviseArticl-e6oftheNewYorkcodeofrul-esandregulations.ThisproposedactionwillbeíncorporatedintoNewYorkStateregulationbyreference.Arecentlyadoptedfederalregulation40CFR,Part60,Sub-partMMMM,titled"EmissionGuidelinesandComplianceTimesForExistingSewageStudgefncineration"orSSIunits.ThispublichearingisoneofthethreescheduledforthepurposeofreceivingstatementsandcommentsontheDepartmentfsproposaltoamendPart200,generalprovisionsoftheaj-rregulationsandexj-stingairregulatíongoverningincineratorsbyaddingner/rrapplicabiJ-ityrequirementsandaddinganer^rSub-part219-9forSSIunits.Theseamendmentswillincorporatetherequirementsoffederal-ruleSub-partMMMMandaddspecíficschedul-erequirementsforfacilitiestocomeintocompliancewiththene\^iregulation.ThisregulationwouldapplystatewidetoPage1existingsewagesludgeincinerationunitscontractedonorbeforeOct.ober14,20L0.TtwouldestablishmandatoryIimitsfornineairpollutants,includingparticul-atematter,sulfurdioxide,hydrogenchloride,nitrogenoxide,carbonmonoxide,Ìead,iadmium,mercury,anddioxíns/furans.Theproposedrulewouldalsoestabl-ishanoptimumlimitaswel-l-asspecificrequirementsforinitialandannualperformancetesting,operatortrainingrecordkeepingandreporting,andcompliancemonitoring.TheDepartmentwillprovideawrittenresponsetocommentsreceivedatthesehearíngs.Anyonewhowishestoobtainínformationorsubmitcommentsrel-atedtotheproposedactionsmaycontactJohnHenkesat.NewYorkStateDBC,DivísionofAirResources,425Broadway,Albany',NewYorkL2233-3254¡telephone,areacode518-402-8403.E-maíl219incinßgw.dec.state.ny.ustorvisittheDepartment'swebsiteat\^/r¡/w.dec.ny.qov/xegulations/propregulations.html.Tobeconsj-deredbytheDepartment,writtencommentsmustbesubmittedby5:00p.m.Thursday,Januaxy26,2072.Thankyoual-l-forattendingthishearingMeetingJanuaryIf,20121234trJ61I91011t213L4151,6111_879202722232425@Telephone:212,349.9692Facslmlle:272,557,21521384Broadway19thFloorNewYork,NY10118ESQUIREMeetingJanuary17,2012L234561a91011L213L415I6T11819202L22231A25wESQ-IJJßHTelephone:272.349,9692Facslmlle:272,557,21521384Brcadway19thFloorNewYork,NY10118PageBMR.SHAH:Nowwewil-lreadthestatementonpart248provisions.Goodafternoon.Mynamej-sPareshShah.I'manenvironmental-engineerwiththeNewYorkStateDepartmentofEnvironmentalConservationintheDivisionofAirResources.TheDepartmentisproposingtorevise6NYCRR,Part248,useofultralowsul-furdieselfuelandbestviabl-eretrofittechnologyforheavydutyvehicles.Byamendlngdefíniti-onsandtheestabl-ishedcomplianceschedul-eandbyaddingauseful-l-ifewaiverprovision,theproposedchangesareattributabl-etorecentcourtdecisionsandtheNewYorkStatelegJ-slatureamendingNewYorkEnvironmental-ConservationLawECL,Sectiont9-0323.NewYorkStateDBChasthestatutoryauthorítytoamendtheexistingregulationpursuanttoECL.Thispublichearì-ngísoneofthethreescheduledforthepLrrposeofreceivingstatementsandcommentsontheDepartment'sproposaltoamendPart248,useofultralowsulfurdieselfuelandbestavail-abilityretrofittechnologyforheavydutyvehicl-es.Theseamendmentswillcontinuetoimplementt.heDieselEmissi-onReductionActof2006,DBRA,andPage9confirmpart248totherecentECLsection19-0323changes.Inaddition,recentcourtdecisionsrequiretheDepartmenttoreviseportionsofthisregulation.Itwillalsocontinuetogenerallymitígateapotentialthreattothehealthandwefl-beingoftheNewYorkersposedbydiesel-exhaustemissíonsandprovideemissionsreductions,therebymeetingobjectives.SpecificallyPart248wilIbeamendedbychangingseveraldefínitionsíncludingcontractor,primecontractoronbehalfofandregulatedentitywork.Asaresul-t,therequirementsofDERAandPart248will-notbeapplicabl-etosubcontractorsservicingstateagencywork,submi-ttingstateagencywork.Part248wouldbeamendedbychangingtheexistingcomplíanceschedul-etoallowallvehiclescoveredbythisregulationandtothehavethebestavail-ableretrofittechnol-ogyBARTonorafterDecember3L,2012.Part248wouldbeamendedbydeletingthe33percentandthe63percentBARTphaseincompliancedeadlines.Finally,part248wouldalsobeamendedbyaddingauseful-l-ifewaiverprovisionwhichall-owstheDepartmenttoissueawaiverofthisrequírementsofthisparttoaBARTregulatedentityorcontractoruponMeetingJanuary11,20121234trJ6"7B910111213T415I67'71879202L22232425@Telephone:212.349.9692Facslmlle:212,557.21521384Broadway19thFloorNewYork,NY10118ESQUIREMeet.ingJanuaryI'7,2072123456191011L213L415I6L11BI92021-22232425wTelephone:212349$692Facslmlle¡212,557,21521384Broadway19thFloorNewYork,NY10118receiptofrequestfromsuchentityprovidedthatsuchvehiclewillbeofserviceinNewYorkStateonor2013.Page10orcontractor,permanentlytakenouLbeforeDecember3I,Anyonewhowishestoobtaininformationorsubmitwrittencommentsrel-at.edtotheproposedactionsmaycontactJimBolognaatNewYorkStateDEC,DivisionofAirResources,625Broadway,Albany,NewYork12233-3255,telephoneareacode518-402-8292,e-mail24BDERAGgw.dec.state.ny.usorvisittheDepartmentrswebsiteat.wwvü.dec.ny.gov/regulations/propregul-ations.htmt.Vürittencommentswillbeacceptedthrough5:00p.m.Thursday,January26,2072.ThankyouallforattendingthishearingMS.NIR.A.PPEL:Isthereanyonewhowishestomakeastatementorcomment?MR.PANICOLA:MynameisBarryPanicol-a.IrepresentSpragueOperatingResources,LLC,alargefuelsupplierandterminaloperatorinthenortheast.Ihavestatementsregardingnoticesofproposalwerremakíng,6NYCRR,Part248.VüecurrentlyholdseveralNewYorkState-basedcontractstodeIívergasolineanddieseltoMTAagenciessuchasNewYorkCityTransit,MTAbridgesESQUIRE1234q61B91011L213L415T6t118I9202T23.Az-+25MeetingJanuaryIf,2012Page11andtunnels,LongIslandRailroad,andallNewYorkStateagenciesreceivinggasolineinthelowerNewYorkMetrocounties,southofandincludingRocklandCounty..Thoughthenerú/rulemakingoffersclarificationforwho'sconsidereddel-iveringonbehalfof,furtherclarificationisneededfort.hetermsregularandfrequentbasisasfarasdeliveriesgo.Furthermore,thelabelingrequirementsdescribedintheregulationappeartobeinviolationofthefederal-lawaswritteninSection14506ofTitle49Chapteri-45oftheU.S.codewhichprohibitsstatespecificdecalswithfewexceptions.Therecordkeepingrequirementsarequiteburdensomeandmanyoftheagenciesthatwehavetoreportthereco'rdstoareunsureoftherequj-rementsthemsel-vesandhowourinformationwill-beintegratedintotheirreports.Inregardstotheproposeddateinthisnoticeofproposedrulemaking,ourcompanysuspendeditsDERA-basedretrofitandvehiclereplacementplaninDecember2010aftertheDECannouncedthatitwouldnotenforcetherequirementsofPart248untiltheoutcomeofthetwocourtcasesh/eredetermined.AtthatpointSpraguehadinstalledover$100,000inretrofittedequipmentandhadtakendelivery@ESQTJJRHTelephone:272,349.9692Facslmlle:212,557.27521384Bmadway19thFloorNewYork,NY101181234661ö910111,213t415T6t'71_BI9202122232425MeetingJanuary11,2012PageL2ofseveralpiecesofnewequipmentuptoandafterthedatetopurchasecommitments.Uptothatdate,wehadgainedseveralusefull-ifewaiversforequipmentandwereawaítingwaiversforotherequipment.Duetothehighhorsepowerapplicationofourfl-eet,qualifyingretrofi-tsarescarceandcostly.Thecurrentretrofitvehicleshavehadseveral-failuresandhavehadaddedmaintenancecosts,furtherdisadvantagingourcompany.DuringthísperiodofinactivityforDERÄ,inouri-ndustryaloneseveralstatecontractshavebeenawardedchangingtherequi-rementsofourfleet.Givingusjustover11monthstorestarttheprogramandcbmplyputsanunfairhardshiptoouroperatíon.Sinceweownandoperateouro\^Infleet,apositionthatallowsustoprovideahigherl-evelofservicetoourstatecustomersasopposedtohiringanoutsidecontractortomakedeliveries,othervendorsinouríndustrywillhaveanunfairadvantagebyhavingsubcontractorsdelivertheirfuel-.OurfleetisregisteredandbasedinNewYorkandpaysahighamountofNewYork-basedfees,taxes,andpermittingcosts.AndnothavingamechanismbuiltintotheseregulationsthataIlowstlstoeithergraduallytransformourfleetthroughorderlyrequirementofol-dervehicleswithoutundueandimmediateexpenseandthennew@Telephone:2L2,349.9692Facslmfle:212.557.27121384Bmadway19thFloorNewYork,NY10118ESQUIREaMeetingJanuary1'7,201212J4q67I91011I213T415L6L11Bt920272223z425@ESQTJJ"RHTelephone:272,3499692Facslmlle:212,557.21521384Broadway19thFloorNewYork,NY10118replacementvehiclesorameanswhooutsourcetothirdpartiesSprague.Page13tocompetewithsuppliersseverelydisadvantagesInregardstothecompliancedate,intheveryleast,theproposalmadebySenatorSewardinbill52369andAssemblymanGabryszakinbil-IA'6899shouldbeapproved,extendingthecomplíancedatetoDecember37,20L4.Additionally,onceacornpliancedateisset,theoriginaltermoftheuseful-lifewaiverswhichweresettoexpirethreeyearsfromtheorj-gínaIcompliancedateshouldberesetandexpirethreeyearsafterthemandatorycompliancedate.Underthecurrentproposedrulemaking,thêusefullífewaivershouldbesêttoexpireDecember3I,2016.AndífcompliancedateismovedtoDecember3I,2014,thentheusefullifewaivershouldexpireDecember31,2011.Undercurrenteconomiccondítionsthatbothpublicmunicipal-andprivatefleetsareoperatingin,thiswillgiveaopportunityforvehiclelifecyclestoendwithouttheaddedexpenseofaretrofitandallowanewvehicletoreplacethem.Thankyou.MS.NfRAPPEL:Doesanyoneelsewishtospeak?123456lU91011T213L415t6771B192021-22232425MeetingJanuary17,2012Paget4MR.MBNDBLL:MynameisRussellMendell.IwouldliketoapplaudtheDepartmentofBnvironmentalConservationforimplementingstrongerregulationsondiesel-fuel-andimplementingbestavailabl-eretrofittechnologyinatimelymanner.Irmsomeonethatsuffersfromasthma.AndonbehalfofthemanypeopleintheNewYorkCítyareawhodosufferfromast.hma,dieselexhaustcontributesgreatlytoasthmainyouthandit'svery,veryimportantthatwehavestríngentdieselexhaustregulations.Gíventheimpendj-nghydraulicfracturinginthenewenvironmentalimpactstatementonhydraulicfracturingincertainareasofNewYork,I'mveryconcernedthatthatdieselexhaustcouldcometoNewYorkCity,asithasbeenshownthatdieselexhaustcanformsmogwhenmixedwithparticulatematterthatcantravel200miles.Soit'sessentialthatwei-mplementtheseregulatíonsassoonaspossibleandthattheybeimplementedinaverystríngentway.MS.NIRAPPEL:Anybodyelse?MR.MUNOZ:I'mfine.MR.SHAH:Sir,vouworkforthegovernmentorareyouacitizen?MR.MENDELL:I'macitizen.IhadaquestionabouttheusefulIdonrtknowifyoucan@ESQIJTßHTelephone:272.3499692Facslmlle:212,557,27521384Broadway19thFloorNewYork,NY10118MeetingJanuary11,201-21234561B91011I213L41516L71B1,9202t22232425@ESQEJRHTelephone:272.349.9692Facslmlle:212,557.21521384Broadway'19thFloorNewYork,NY10118Page15ansh/erquest.ionsabouttheuseful-lifewai-ver.MS.NIRAPPEL:Norw€rrenotgoingtoanswerquestions.(Whereupon,at2:21p.m.,ârecess\^/astakento2:36p.m.)(Themeetingresumed.)MS.NIRAPPEL:Iremindyouthatthepubliccommentperiodwillcloseat5p.m.onSaturday,January26,20L2.VürittenstatementsshouldbesubmittedtotheStateofNewYorkStateDEC,DivisionofAirResources,25Broadway,Albany,NewYorkL2233-3325.Statementscanalsobefaxedore-mailedtotheDepartment.Thetimeisnow2:46,andthereisnooneelsewhowishestocomment.Thehearíngsectionisadjourned.Thankyouallforcoming.(Tímenoted:2:46p.m.)MeetingJanuary17,2012Telephone:2t2,349,9692Facslmlle:ZtZ,SSZ.ztfl1384Bmadryåy19thFtoorNewYork,Î{y10118,jF;..%v1234561C]91011L2137415L6L11879202L22232425ríi.r-,l-%:r'Y:¡lii4h.n.:.4@ESQTJJRHPaget6CERTIFTCATET,srEpHANrEBARRTLLARO,ashorthandReporterandNotaryPublicwithinandforthestateofNewyork,doherebycertifythatrreportedtheproceedingsoftheNewYorkstateDepartmentofEnvironmentarconservationonJanuaryL7,2012,andthatthisisanaccuratetranscri-ptionofwhattranspiredatthattimeandp1ace.Stepha1eBari11aro,ReporterShorthand