FILED
 December 20, 2016 2016 IL App (4th) 140558 Carla Bender
 

4th District Appellate
 NO. 4-14-0558 Court, IL 

IN THE APPELLATE COURT 

OF ILLINOIS 

FOURTH DISTRICT 

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, ) Appeal from

Plaintiff-Appellee, ) Circuit Court of 

v. ) Vermilion County

KAWQUAUN APPLEWHITE, ) No. 12CF531

Defendant-Appellant. ) 

) Honorable

) Craig H. DeArmond, 

) Judge Presiding. 

JUSTICE STEIGMANN delivered the judgment of the court, with opinion. 

Justice Appleton concurred in the judgment and opinion. 

Justice Turner specially concurred, with opinion. 

OPINION 

¶ 1 Following an October 2013 trial, a jury convicted defendant, Kawquaun Applewhite, of 

aggravated criminal sexual abuse (720 ILCS 5/11-1.60(c)(1)(i) (West 2012)). In April 2014, the 

trial court sentenced defendant to four years in prison and imposed a $1250 fee for courtappointed counsel. 

¶ 2 Defendant appeals, arguing that (1) the trial court abused its discretion by admitting 

multiple hearsay statements the victim made to others pursuant to section 115-10 of the Code of 

Criminal Procedure of 1963 (725 ILCS 5/115-10 (West 2012)), (2) the court erred by prohibiting 

defense counsel from questioning venire members individually about personal experiences they 

or their family members had with sexual abuse, and (3) this court should vacate the fee for courtappointed counsel that the trial court improperly imposed without first conducting a hearing as 
 

 

 

 

required by section 113-3.1 of the Code (725 ILCS 5/113-3.1 (West 2012)). For the reasons that 

follow, we (1) affirm defendant’s conviction and sentence and (2) vacate the order regarding the 

fee for court-appointed counsel. 

¶ 3 I. BACKGROUND 

¶ 4 A. The State’s Charges 

¶ 5 In November 2012, the State charged defendant with (1) predatory criminal sexual 

assault of a child (720 ILCS 5/11-1.40(a)(1) (West 2012)) and (2) aggravated criminal sexual 

abuse (720 ILCS 5/11-1.60(c)(1)(i) (West 2012)), alleging that six months earlier, defendant had 

sexual contact with G.Z. (born January 4, 2002), who was then under 13 years old. 

¶ 6 In January 2013, the State filed an amended notice of its intent to solicit corroborative 

testimony detailing complaints G.Z. made to others under section 115-10 of the Code, which 

provides an exception to the prohibition against admitting hearsay testimony as substantive 

evidence in cases involving sexual acts perpetrated against a child under 13 years old. 

¶ 7 B. Pretrial Proceedings 

¶ 8 At a February 2013 pretrial hearing, the trial court considered the following evidence on 

the State’s amended section 115-10 notice. 

¶ 9 Austin Hardy testified that he was married to Amber Hardy, and they shared a home with 

their children, G.Z. (11 years old), Z.Z. (9 years old), A.H. (6 years old), and L.H. (4 years old). 

On November 8, 2012, Austin came home from work earlier than usual. After entering unnoticed 

through the rear door, Austin heard children playing in the basement but decided to go to the 

bathroom before announcing his arrival. 

¶ 10 Defendant supervised Austin’s four children while Austin worked. Austin explained that 

he met defendant “three, maybe four years” earlier through Amber’s coworker, Emily Newton, 

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who had been in a relationship with defendant. During that time, Austin’s friendship with 

defendant developed to the point where Austin trusted defendant “with my life and my kids.” 

Because other people Austin hired proved untrustworthy, Austin asked defendant to supervise 

his children during the days he and Amber worked. 

¶ 11 As Austin walked to his locked master bedroom, he stopped to get a key from a closet 

located directly across from a hallway bathroom. G.Z., who was then 10 years old, emerged from 

the hallway bathroom, which Austin noticed was unlit. G.Z. asked Austin to follow her because 

she wanted to show him a dead spider. When G.Z. could not find the spider, Austin started 

walking back toward his bedroom. G.Z. then attempted to get Austin to go downstairs. Austin 

told G.Z. that he had to go to the bathroom. When Austin turned toward the master bedroom, he 

saw light coming from the open hallway bathroom door. Austin estimated that his encounter with 

G.Z. lasted about two minutes. 

¶ 12 When Austin reached the hallway bathroom, he saw defendant standing in front of the 

sink. Defendant inquired about the slow-draining sink. Defendant’s question concerned Austin, 

because he and defendant had twice attempted, unsuccessfully, to fix the sink. Austin then went 

into his master bedroom. Two minutes later, defendant knocked on the master bedroom door and 

asked Austin to call Emily to determine whether she was ready to be picked up from her work. 

Defendant subsequently left with Emily’s then four-year-old son, Z.N., whom defendant had also 

been supervising. That evening, Amber arrived home from work, and Austin informed her about 

his encounter with G.Z. and defendant. Amber went to speak with G.Z. 

¶ 13 Austin was “in and out” of the front room where Amber spoke with G.Z. because he was 

taking care of their other children. Shortly after Amber confronted G.Z., Austin heard G.Z. throw 

up in the kitchen. After speaking with G.Z. for about 20 minutes, Amber contacted Emily 

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because she was concerned about Z.N. Police later arrived at the Hardy home and separately 

questioned Austin, Amber, and G.Z. Austin acknowledged that G.Z. did not tell him what 

occurred with defendant. Austin added that one of the factors that prompted him to speak with 

Amber was G.Z.’s unusual and fidgety demeanor that day, commenting that G.Z. is usually 

giddy, happy, and wants to talk. However, that night, Austin noticed that G.Z. did not react as 

she normally does when he arrived home from work. 

¶ 14 Amber testified that on November 8, 2012, defendant was at her home, watching her four 

children and Z.N. Amber explained that defendant had been supervising her children during the 

week from noon to approximately 5 or 6 p.m. for several months. After Amber arrived home 

from work that evening, she had a conversation with Austin. When Austin conveyed his 

concerns, Amber decided to speak with G.Z. 

¶ 15 During their 10-minute talk, Amber (1) told G.Z. about how Austin got a “funny feeling” 

about the hallway bathroom encounter and (2) asked G.Z. if defendant had ever touched her 

inappropriately. G.Z. hesitated. When Amber asked again if defendant had touched G.Z. 

inappropriately, G.Z. started shaking, got up, and walked into the kitchen, where she threw up. 

After doing so, G.Z. returned and, according to Amber, stated the following: 

“[G.Z.] said that [defendant] pulled his thing out and asked her to kiss it, and she 

shook her head no, and then he turned her around and tried to tie her wrists up, 

*** placed his thing between her butt cheeks and started to hump her.” 

Amber recalled that G.Z. told her that defendant pulled her shorts down and then pulled his pants 

down before he began humping her. Amber observed that during G.Z.’s recitation of defendant’s 

acts in the hallway bathroom, G.Z. was “visibly shaken” and hesitant, but she did not cry. 

¶ 16 After informing Austin of G.Z.’s account, Amber met with Emily and told her about 

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defendant’s conduct with G.Z. because Amber was worried about Z.N. That night, Danville 

police officer Jon Stonewall privately interviewed G.Z. in the Hardys’ home. The following 

morning, Amber took G.Z. to the police station, where Detective Scott Damilano privately 

interviewed G.Z. Amber could not recall telling Stonewall whether G.Z. stated defendant asked 

her to wear a blindfold during the hallway bathroom incident. 

¶ 17 Stonewall testified that on November 8, 2012, he responded to a call of a sexual assault at 

the Hardy residence. Upon arriving, Stonewall observed Austin, Amber, Emily, and G.Z. 

Stonewall conducted a private interview of G.Z. in the living room of the Hardy residence. 

Stonewall characterized G.Z.’s demeanor as meek and nervous. 

¶ 18 G.Z. told Stonewall that she had been in the basement earlier that day wrestling with her 

siblings, Z.N., and defendant. At one point, G.Z. went to the hallway bathroom. When she 

exited, defendant was standing in the hallway. After G.Z. “play punched” defendant, he 

responded that G.Z. “better stop, or I’m going to make you kiss my balls.” G.Z. returned to the 

basement, but she later went upstairs, intending to use the hallway bathroom again. Defendant 

followed G.Z. into the bathroom, closed the door behind him, and turned off the lights. 

Defendant pulled his trousers and underwear down and did the same with G.Z.’s shorts and 

underwear. Defendant then pulled G.Z. away from the sink, and as she faced away from 

defendant, he “put his penis on her buttocks and moved it back and forth” for about “10 to 15 

minutes.” During this time, G.Z. and defendant did not speak. Stonewall clarified that G.Z. (1) 

used the term “wiener” instead of “penis” and (2) did not try to get away from defendant. When 

G.Z. left the hallway bathroom, she was startled by Austin’s presence and attempted to get him 

away from the hallway bathroom because G.Z. feared getting into trouble. 

¶ 19 G.Z. revealed to Stonewall that the hallway bathroom incident was not the first time 

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defendant touched her inappropriately. In summer 2012, G.Z. recalled an incident at defendant’s 

home where she, her siblings, and Z.N. were wrestling with defendant. Later, when G.Z. was 

alone with defendant watching television in his bedroom, defendant exposed his penis and told 

G.Z. that he wanted her “to kiss his wiener.” G.Z. told Stonewall that (1) defendant “used his 

fingers to manipulate her lips and touched his wiener to her mouth” and (2) “what had occurred 

in the bathroom at her home had also occurred a couple of times at [defendant’s] house.” 

Stonewall then asked Amber to come back into the room for the purpose of retrieving the 

underwear G.Z. had been wearing during the hallway bathroom incident. During the interview, 

G.Z. did not mention defendant tried to tie her up or asked her to wear a blindfold. 

¶ 20 Damilano testified that on November 9, 2012, he interviewed G.Z. A recording of 

Damilano’s interview, which the trial court reviewed, revealed the following. 

¶ 21 After engaging G.Z. in general conversation regarding her age, schooling, family 

situation, and G.Z.’s basic knowledge of male and female anatomy, Damilano asked G.Z. 

questions regarding the circumstances surrounding the November 8, 2012, incident with 

defendant, which prompted the following responses from G.Z. 

¶ 22 G.Z. characterized defendant as a “good friend of the family,” and although G.Z. had 

numerous interactions with defendant over the previous years, defendant began supervising G.Z. 

and her three siblings about a month earlier on school days when Austin and Amber were at 

work. On November 8, 2012, defendant was supervising G.Z., her three siblings, and Z.N. at the 

Hardy home. After play wrestling in the basement, G.Z. went upstairs to the hallway bathroom. 

Defendant followed G.Z. into the bathroom and turned off the lights. G.Z. thought defendant 

“was still playing around” so she punched him in a playful manner. Defendant then told G.Z. that 

she was “going to kiss his penis.” Thereafter, defendant pulled down his trousers and then 

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proceeded to unbutton G.Z.’s pants and pulled them down as well. G.Z. then felt the “back and 

forth movement” of defendant’s penis on her buttocks, which was not painful but did not feel 

good. G.Z. described the contact as warm and nasty. G.Z. pulled up her pants and walked out of 

the bathroom, where she saw Austin. Thereafter, G.Z. attempted to get Austin away from the 

hallway bathroom because she thought she would get in trouble. 

¶ 23 G.Z. added that in summer 2012, defendant engaged in this same behavior on two 

occasions. During the first incident, defendant watched her, her brother, and Z.N. in defendant’s 

home while Austin and Amber were at work. G.Z. was in defendant’s bedroom wrestling with 

defendant on his bed while the other children were playing in another room. At some point, 

defendant pulled his trousers down as well as G.Z.’s pants, got on top of G.Z., and started 

humping her. G.Z. clarified that defendant’s penis was making contact with her buttocks as in the 

hallway bathroom encounter, except that defendant was lying on top of her as G.Z. was lying on 

the bed, looking away from defendant. G.Z. stated that “the exact same thing” happened during 

the second encounter at defendant’s home. 

¶ 24 Following argument, the trial court found that the “time, content, and circumstances of 

the statements, the testimony of the witnesses, the credibility of [G.Z.], who has testified here by 

way of video, all [the court] believe[s] are sufficient to allow the admissibility of the [section] 

115-10 statements.” 

¶ 25 In June 2013, the State filed a supplemental notice of its intent to solicit corroborative 

testimony detailing statements G.Z. made to Lisa Moment, a nurse, pursuant to section 115-10 of 

the Code. At a July 2013 pretrial hearing, the State presented the following evidence. 

¶ 26 On November 9, 2012, Moment performed a sexual assault examination of G.Z. As part 

of that process, Moment asked G.Z. broad questions regarding her understanding of why she was 

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being examined. Moment recalled that G.Z. told her that “at some point [G.Z.] went to the 

bathroom. [Defendant] followed her into the bathroom and turned out the lights and pulled down 

his pants and her pants and started humping her.” G.Z. clarified that “humping” meant “going 

back and forth.” G.Z. agreed with Moment’s description that defendant put his penis in G.Z.’s 

bottom. Moment characterized G.Z.’s demeanor during her recital of the events at issue as “very 

calm” and “pretty flat,” which Moment did not find unusual. Moment acknowledged that she did 

not find any bleeding or tears during her physical examination of G.Z. 

¶ 27 Following argument, the trial court found that the time, content, and circumstances of the 

statements provided safeguards of reliability sufficient to permit admission of Moment’s 

testimony under section 115-10 of the Code. 

¶ 28 C. Voir Dire 

¶ 29 In October 2013, the trial court conducted voir dire, where the following exchange 

occurred outside of the venire’s presence: 

“[DEFENSE COUNSEL]: Due to the nature of the case, I think some 

inquiry is going to be made regarding personal and/or knowledge of sexual abuse 

issues. Our request *** would be to address those individually due to the obvious 

circumstances regarding those kind of issues, and the personal nature that they 

may— 

THE COURT: [The court will] be asking questions about whether they 

have been the victim of any criminal offense. [The court will] also be asking them 

whether once they hear the nature of this offense, is there anything about that 

which affects their ability to be fair and impartial. [The court is] not inclined to 

inquire or ask people to disclose in open court that they’ve been victims 

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themselves. [The court will] ask questions that are designed to get that 

information out, and [the court] will also tell them that if at any time *** [the 

court] ask[s] a question which causes them any concern or anxiety and they don’t 

feel comfortable answering it in open court, they have a right to talk with me 

privately. [The court] will call you up to tell you what they [said]. Nine times out 

of ten, that’s when they come up, someone will say they were a victim of a rape, 

or victim of some sexual offense, and they don’t want to disclose it in open court. 

They tell [the court] what the situation is. [The court will] then call the attorneys 

up at a side-bar and advise them of the situation, but as far as being allowed to 

inquire further about if, no. [The court will] cover it. 

[DEFENSE COUNSEL]: You’re barring us as a counsel? 

THE COURT: Yes. [The court will] cover it, and if [the court] think[s] it 

needs further covering because of a response they give, then [the court will] have 

even more questions, but [the court’s] questions are designed to get responses 

without people having to go through the stress of acknowledging in open court 

something of that nature. *** [I]n almost every jury[,] one or more persons ask to 

talk to [the court] privately and they come up and disclose their circumstance, and 

then [the court] let[s] the attorneys know. Once you hear the information, if you 

want further questions asked of that person, tell [the court] what questions you 

want asked and [the court will] ask them. Anything else? 

[DEFENSE COUNSEL]: No. I just wanted to make sure our request for 

the individual ID— 

THE COURT: It won’t be done individually, but [the court] will make 

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sure that there’s individual inquiry if any of those people respond in a way that 

gives us some reason to believe that we need to ask some further questions.” 

¶ 30 Thereafter, during voir dire of 14 venire members, the trial court inquired, as follows: 

“Have you or any members of your family ever been the victim of a criminal 

offense? Any of you have any bias or prejudice against a person merely because 

they have been charged with a criminal offense? Is there anything about the 

nature of the charges in this case, predatory criminal sexual assault of a child and 

aggravated criminal sexual abuse, just the charges themselves, is there anything 

about hearing those charges that affects you in such a way that you believe that it 

would prevent you from reaching a fair and impartial verdict?” 

None of the venire members answered affirmatively. 

¶ 31 After a sidebar conference held outside of the jury’s hearing, the trial court asked the 

following questions:

 “[The court] asked you a little bit earlier about whether either you or family 

members have been victims of a criminal offense, and [the court] also asked you 

about the nature of the charge in this case. [The court is] not asking you to 

disclose anything ***. [The court is] asking whether any of you have any family 

members or have had any circumstances, which could affect your ability to be fair 

and impartial in this case based upon the nature of the offenses charged?” 

None of the venire members answered affirmatively. Shortly thereafter, the court permitted the 

State and defense counsel to question the panel. 

¶ 32 After retiring the first 14 venire members to the jury room, the trial court asked a second 

panel of 14 venire members whether they or a family member had ever been the victim of a 

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criminal offense. Two venire members answered affirmatively, recalling that the underlying 

circumstances of the respective cases they were referring to were similar to the instant case. Both 

prospective jurors acknowledged that based on their experiences with their respective cases, they 

could not be impartial jurors. As with the first panel, the court permitted the State and defense 

counsel to question the panel. Thereafter, the court dismissed for cause both venire members 

who called into question their impartiality. (The court dismissed two other venire members for 

cause because of a recent family death and the revelation that the prospective juror could not be 

impartial based on his former employment as a police officer.) 

¶ 33 Based on proceedings conducted outside of the venire’s presence, the trial court 

announced the 12 venire members selected as jurors and returned them to the jury room. 

Thereafter, the court questioned a panel of six venire members, intending to select an alternate 

juror. As with the prior two panels, the court asked if any venire member or a family member 

was charged with a criminal offense. One prospective juror expressed that although she did not 

“want to say it would affect [her] judgment,” the circumstances “sicken[ ] me to the point I have 

an ache in the pit of my stomach,” adding that she “already felt disgusted,” “physically upset,” 

and felt the need to “protect the child.” The court subsequently dismissed the venire member for 

cause. The parties eventually selected an alternate juror. 

¶ 34 D. The Evidence Presented 

¶ 35 At defendant’s October 2013 trial, the parties presented the following evidence to a jury. 

(Where possible, we omit detailed testimony that is repetitious because it is substantially similar 

to evidence presented at the February and July 2013 section 115-10 hearings.) 

¶ 36 1. The State’s Evidence 

¶ 37 G.Z. testified that on the night of November 8, 2012, Stonewall interviewed her at her 

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family’s home. G.Z. told Stonewall that she had been wrestling with her siblings, Z.N, and 

defendant in the basement of her home earlier that day. Sometime later, G.Z. went to a hallway 

bathroom located on the home’s first floor. After G.Z. relieved herself, defendant opened the 

bathroom door, entered, and turned off the lights. Defendant pulled down his pants, revealing his 

plaid boxers shorts, which he also removed. G.Z. moved and faced a corner of the bathroom 

“because I didn’t know what he was going to do.” Defendant then removed G.Z.’s shorts and 

underwear. At that moment, G.Z. felt “scared, like I didn’t know what to do.” G.Z. stated that 

defendant then placed “[h]is wiener against my butt” and “started moving back and forth or 

humping.” G.Z. clarified that the terms “wiener” and “penis” meant the same thing. 

¶ 38 G.Z. estimated that defendant continued humping her for about 15 to 20 minutes. During 

this time, defendant did not speak. G.Z. described the encounter as “warm, nasty, and 

uncomfortable,” but it did not hurt. G.Z. eventually pushed defendant away because she 

“couldn’t stand it anymore.” Afterward, G.Z. put on her underwear and shorts and left the 

bathroom. Upon exiting, G.Z. noticed her stepfather, Austin, searching a closet located 

immediately across from the hallway bathroom. G.Z. attempted to “get [Austin] away” because 

G.Z. thought she would get in trouble. G.Z. told Austin about the spider, because she did not 

want him to enter the hallway bathroom. Afterward, G.Z. went into her bedroom, and Austin 

walked toward his master bedroom. 

¶ 39 G.Z. noted that defendant left about 20 minutes after she entered her room, and Amber 

arrived home about an hour later. G.Z. acknowledged that she spoke with Amber about the 

bathroom incident, but G.Z. admitted that she did not disclose “everything” to Amber because 

“she didn’t want anything bad to happen.” G.Z. then testified generally to events that later 

occurred, which included (1) speaking with a police officer at her home, (2) giving police the 

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underwear she wore during the bathroom encounter, (3) going to the hospital later that evening 

and speaking to a nurse, and (4) providing a tape-recorded statement to police the following day. 

¶ 40 G.Z. revealed that the bathroom incident was not the first time defendant engaged in such 

behavior. On two occasions in August 2012, G.Z. and “other kids” were at defendant’s home 

wrestling on the bed in defendant’s bedroom. (During cross-examination, G.Z. admitted that 

although she thought the two incidents occurred in August 2012, she was “not sure.”) When the 

other children left to play video games, G.Z. stayed with defendant. As in the November 2012 

bathroom incident, G.Z. stated that the “same thing” happened in that defendant began “moving 

back and forth again,” which G.Z. did not like. G.Z. stated that during these two encounters (1) 

they were both clothed, (2) she was lying on her stomach, and (3) defendant was on top of her. 

After the first incident, defendant told G.Z. that she shouldn’t tell her parents. G.Z. 

acknowledged that during the November 2012 bathroom incident, she did not attempt to run past 

defendant or scream. 

¶ 41 Kelly Biggs, a forensic scientist employed by the Illinois State Police crime lab, testified 

that deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) testing she performed on vaginal and anal samples taken from 

G.Z. showed no male DNA was present. 

¶ 42 Outside of the jury’s presence, the trial court considered defendant’s objection to the 

State’s request to admit into evidence the recorded interview Damilano conducted with G.Z. 

Specifically, defendant averred that admitting and subsequently publishing the recording to the 

jury would be “obviously cumulative” and “highly prejudicial” given that (1) G.Z. had testified 

and was subject to cross-examination and (2) Damilano was scheduled to testify and would be 

subject to cross-examination. The State responded that Illinois jurisprudence does not place 

limits on the amount of section 115-10 evidence the State can proffer, provided the evidence 

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meets certain reliability criteria. After considering the parties’ arguments, the court overruled 

defendant’s objection and admitted the recording into evidence. Thereafter, Damilano testified to 

the authenticity of the recording at issue, which was published to the jury. 

¶ 43 Because the testimony provided at defendant’s October 2013 jury trial by Austin, Amber, 

Stonewall, and Moment was substantially similar to the testimony each witness provided at the 

February and July 2013 section 115-10 hearings, we do not include it in this summary. 

¶ 44 2. Defendant’s Evidence 

¶ 45 Defendant testified that in November 2012, he was unemployed and would supervise 

Z.N. while Emily was at work. Because defendant considered the Hardys friends, he also 

watched their four children. Defendant’s normal routine was to watch the Hardys’ children from 

11:30 a.m. until 4:45 p.m., when Austin would usually arrive home from work. Afterward, 

defendant would remain in the Hardys’ home until Emily finished working, which usually 

occurred about 5:15 or 5:30 p.m. Defendant estimated that he had been supervising the Hardys’ 

children for no more than three weeks. 

¶ 46 Defendant stated that on November 8, 2012, he cared for the Hardys’ children and Z.N. 

without incident. After Austin arrived home, defendant began preparing to leave with Z.N. 

During that time, defendant entered the hallway bathroom to relieve himself. Defendant “swung 

the door behind” him, but “it didn’t shut.” Although the lights in the bathroom remained off, 

natural light came “from the [kitchen] window,” which was “located closest to the hallway.” 

Defendant was then startled by G.Z.’s entrance into the bathroom. Defendant believed that G.Z. 

intended to use the bathroom because “her pants were down *** above her waist,” which 

exposed “the top of her buttocks.” Defendant became upset and told G.Z. “to get her ass out.” 

G.Z. left the bathroom. When defendant left the bathroom, he encountered Austin. G.Z. had 

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returned to the basement. Defendant then had a brief conversation with Austin concerning the 

slow-draining sink. Defendant denied touching G.Z. “in any way” during the bathroom incident. 

¶ 47 E. The Jury’s Verdict, Defendant’s Posttrial Motion, and 

the Trial Court’s Sentence 

¶ 48 Following its deliberations, the jury found defendant (1) not guilty of predatory criminal 

sexual assault of a child and (2) guilty of aggravated criminal sexual abuse. Later in November 

2013, defendant filed a motion for judgment notwithstanding the verdict or, in the alternative, a 

new trial. In support of his motion, defendant alleged, in pertinent part, that the trial court erred 

by (1) preventing him from inquiring whether potential jurors had been the victim of sexual 

abuse or had close friends or relatives who were victims of sexual abuse; (2) admitting G.Z.’s 

statements into evidence under section 115-10 of the Code because those statements were 

inconsistent and, thus, unreliable; and (3) admitting into evidence the audio and video recordings 

of G.Z.’s interview with Damilano as cumulative. 

¶ 49 At an April 2014 hearing, the trial court considered defendant’s November 2013 motion. 

As to defendant’s first claim, the court noted, as follows: 

“[T]he [prospective] jurors were asked if they or any family members [were] 

victims of the criminal offense. They were asked if the nature of the charges 

specifically affected their ability to be fair and impartial ***. There was nothing 

during voir dire that would indicate there would be any need for individual voir 

dire, nor was anything raised which would indicate that there was a need to 

conduct individual voir dire. *** [D]efendant was allowed to ask questions 

through counsel.” 

¶ 50 As to defendant’s claims, which called into question the trial court’s admission of (1) 

G.Z.’s statements under section 115-10 of the Code as unreliable and (2) the November 2012 

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recorded interview Damilano conducted with G.Z. as cumulative, the court noted that G.Z.’s 

statements were neither unreliable nor cumulative and were properly admitted pursuant to 

section 115-10 of the Code. Thereafter, the court sentenced defendant, in part, to four years in 

prison and imposed a $1250 fee for court-appointed counsel. 

¶ 51 This appeal followed. 

¶ 52 II. ANALYSIS 

¶ 53 Defendant argues that (1) the trial court abused its discretion by admitting multiple 

hearsay statements the victim made to others pursuant to section 115-10 of the Code, (2) the 

court erred by prohibiting defense counsel from questioning venire members about personal 

experiences they or their respective family members had with sexual abuse, and (3) this court 

should vacate the fee for court-appointed counsel that the trial court improperly imposed without 

first conducting a hearing as required by section 113-3.1 of the Code. We address defendant’s 

arguments, in turn. 

¶ 54 A. Admission of G.Z.’s Out-of-Court Statements 

Under Section 115-10 of the Code 

¶ 55 Elaborating on his section 115-10 evidentiary argument, defendant contends that the trial 

court denied him a fair trial because the admitted hearsay testimony was “consistent with both 

[G.Z.’s] trial testimony and her recorded interview with *** Damilano.” Defendant also 

contends that the admitted hearsay testimony provided by Amber, Stonewall, Damilano, and 

Moment was unnecessarily cumulative and prejudicial. Thus, as framed by defendant, this court 

should reverse his aggravated criminal sexual assault conviction and remand for a new trial 

because the court’s section 115-10 findings violated the rules prohibiting the admission of (1) 

prior consistent statements and (2) cumulative evidence. We disagree. 

¶ 56 1. Standard of Review 

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¶ 57 “[T]he [trial] court’s decision to admit evidence under section 115-10 will not be 

reversed unless the record clearly demonstrates that the *** court abused its discretion.” People 

v. Williams, 193 Ill. 2d 306, 343, 739 N.E.2d 455, 474 (2000). An abuse of discretion occurs 

when the trial court’s determination is arbitrary, fanciful, or unreasonable or when no reasonable 

person would agree with the stance adopted by the trial court. People v. Becker, 239 Ill. 2d 215, 

234, 940 N.E.2d 1131, 1142 (2010). 

¶ 58 2. Prior Consistent Statements 

¶ 59 Illinois Rule of Evidence 613(c) (eff. Jan. 1, 2011), which governs prior consistent 

statements of a witness, provides, as follows: 

“(c) Evidence of Prior Consistent Statement of Witness. A prior 

statement that is consistent with the declarant-witness’s testimony is admissible, 

for rehabilitation purposes only and not substantively as a hearsay exception or 

exclusion, when the declarant testifies at the trial or hearing and is available to the 

opposing party for examination concerning the statement, and the statement is 

offered to rebut an express or implied charge that: 

(i) the witness acted from an improper influence or motive to 

testify falsely, if that influence or motive did not exist when the statement 

was made; or 

(ii) the witness’s testimony was recently fabricated, if the 

statement was made before the alleged fabrication occurred.” 

¶ 60 “ ‘In general, proof of a prior consistent statement made by a witness is inadmissible 

hearsay, which may not be used to bolster a witness’s testimony.’ ” People v. Stull, 2014 IL App 

(4th) 120704, ¶ 99, 5 N.E.3d 328 (quoting People v. House, 377 Ill. App. 3d 9, 19, 878 N.E.2d 

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1171, 1179 (2007)); see also People v. Heard, 187 Ill. 2d 36, 70, 718 N.E.2d 58, 77 (1999). The 

rationale underlying this prohibition has been explained, as follows: 

“ ‘The danger in prior consistent statements is that a jury is likely to attach 

disproportionate significance to them. People tend to believe that which is 

repeated most often, regardless of its intrinsic merit, and repetition lends 

credibility to testimony that it might not otherwise deserve.’ ” People v. Donegan, 

2012 IL App (1st) 102325, ¶ 52, 974 N.E.2d 352 (quoting People v. Smith, 139 

Ill. App. 3d 21, 33, 486 N.E.2d 1347, 1355 (1985)). 

¶ 61 In this case, the trial court admitted the contested statements at issue pursuant to section 

115-10 of the Code. That statutory provision, entitled, “Certain hearsay exceptions,” provides, as 

follows: 

“(a) In a prosecution for a physical or sexual act perpetrated upon or 

against a child under the age of 13 *** at the time the act was committed, 

including but not limited to prosecutions for violations of Sections 11-1.20 

through 11-1.60 *** of the Criminal Code of *** 2012 ***, the following 

evidence shall be admitted as an exception to the hearsay rule: 

(1) testimony by the victim of an out of court statement made by 

the victim that he or she complained of such act to another; and 

(2) testimony of an out of court statement made by the victim 

describing any complaint of such act or matter or detail pertaining to any 

act which is an element of an offense which is the subject of a prosecution 

for a sexual or physical act against that victim. 

(b) Such testimony shall only be admitted if: 

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(1) The court finds in a hearing conducted outside the presence of 

the jury that the time, content, and circumstances of the statement provide 

sufficient safeguards of reliability; and 

(2) The child *** either: 

(A) testifies at the proceeding; or 

(B) is unavailable as a witness and there is corroborative 

evidence of the act which is the subject of the statement[.]” 720 

ILCS 5/115-10(a), (b) (West 2012). 

See Pub. Act 82-782 (eff. Jan. 1, 1983) (adding Ill. Rev. Stat. 1983, ch. 38, ¶ 115-9); see also
 

Pub. Act 82-1057 (eff. Feb. 11, 1983) (renumbering and amending Ill. Rev. Stat. 1983, ch. 38,
 

¶ 115-9 to ¶ 115-10, now codified at 725 ILCS 5/115-10).
 

¶ 62 In People v. Holloway, 177 Ill. 2d 1, 9-10, 682 N.E.2d 59, 63 (1997), the supreme court
 

explained that the legislature enacted section 115-10 of the Code to address the following 

concerns:
 

“Section 115-10 was originally passed in response to the difficulty in 

convicting persons accused of sexually assaulting young children. This difficulty 

occurs because children’s testimony in sexual assault cases is often inadequate. 

Problems in proof may result when the lesser developed cognitive and language 

skills that children have hinder them in adequately communicating the details of 

an assault. The legislature sought to create a hearsay exception to allow into 

evidence corroborative testimony that the child complained to another person 

about the incident. 

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It appears that the legislature, in providing for the admission of evidence 

of outcry statements as exceptions to the hearsay rule in certain cases, was 

concerned with the ability of the victim to understand and articulate what 

happened during the incident and the reluctance many victims have relating the 

details of the incident at trial. Evidence of an outcry statement made to another by 

a child under the age of 13 would corroborate the testimony of a child who, by 

reason of age, may be reluctant or unable to clearly express the details of the 

incident. *** The importance of allowing hearsay testimony of an outcry *** is 

not dictated by the age of the victim when the assault occurs. Instead, it is dictated 

by the victim’s ability to adequately testify to the alleged incident.” 

See also People v. Bowen, 183 Ill. 2d 103, 115, 699 N.E.2d 577, 584 (1998) (The General 

Assembly enacted section 115-10 of the Code to allow admission of “detailed corroborative 

evidence of the child’s complaint about the incident to another individual” out of concern that 

“child witnesses, especially the very young, often lack the cognitive or language skills to 

effectively communicate instances of abuse at trial.”). 

¶ 63 Defendant’s contention that the admitted section 115-10 hearsay testimony at issue 

violated the prohibition against utilizing prior consistent statements as substantive evidence is 

unavailing because by its very nature, section 115-10 of the Code constitutes an exception to that 

rule. Based on the rationale underpinning its enactment, the plain language of section 115-10 of 

the Code provides for the admission, in relevant part, of “testimony of an out of court statement” 

made by the minor victim that is solicited from a witness who directly heard the minor making 

the statement. 725 ILCS 5/115-10(a)(2) (West 2012). Thus, admission of out-of-court 

statements, such as those G.Z. conveyed to Amber, Stonewall, Damilano, and Moment 

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concerning the surrounding circumstances of defendant’s sexual contact, is “measured only by 

whether they meet the [reliability] requirements of section 115-10 of the Code.” (Emphasis 

omitted.) People v. Sharp, 391 Ill. App. 3d 947, 954, 909 N.E.2d 971, 977 (2009). See People v. 

Cookson, 335 Ill. App. 3d 786, 791, 780 N.E.2d 807, 811 (2002) (“The State bears the burden of 

proving that the statements were reliable and not the result of adult prompting or 

manipulation.”). 

¶ 64 To accept defendant’s premise—which we do not—would signify that section 115-10 of 

the Code permits the admission of specific hearsay declarations as substantive evidence solely 

when a minor under 13 years old testifies inconsistently with the identified corroborative hearsay 

statements the minor conveyed to others. The aforementioned plain language of the statute does 

not support defendant’s stance. Moreover, we note that the legislature could not have intended 

for section 115-10 of the Code to operate in such a fashion because 18 months after enactment of 

what is now known as section 115-10 of the Code, the legislature enacted section 115-10.1 of the 

Code (725 ILCS 5/115-10.1 (West 2012)) with the heading, “Admissibility of Prior Inconsistent 

Statements.” See Pub. Act 83-1042 (eff. July 1, 1984) (adding Ill. Rev. Stat. 1985, ch. 38, ¶ 115­

10.1, now codified at 725 ILCS 5/115-10.1); see also People v. Davis, 137 Ill. App. 3d 769, 771­

72, 484 N.E.2d 1098, 1100 (1985) (acknowledging the enactment of section 115-10.1 of the 

Code). “[I]t is presumed [that] the legislature acts rationally and with full knowledge of all prior 

legislation.” People v. Jones, 214 Ill. 2d 187, 199, 824 N.E.2d 239, 246 (2005). 

¶ 65 Defendant correctly notes that section 115-10 of the Code is a specific hearsay exception 

tailored to minors under 13 years old who have been victims of a sexual offense for the reasons 

stated in Holloway and Bowen. Defendant’s position, however, that corroborative hearsay 

statements are barred from admission under section 115-10 of the Code if they are consistent 

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with a minor’s trial testimony reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of the following two 

principles. First, that the admission of out-of-court statements under section 115-10 of the Code 

is predicated on the trial court’s judgment as to the reliability of the corroborative hearsay 

statements. Second, and more important, provided that the remaining provisions of section 115­

10 are satisfied, whether a minor victim testifies consistently, inconsistently, or by not 

responding to questions posed regarding the sexual acts alleged does not affect the 

admissibility—under section 115-10—of the minor’s out-of-court statements to others that 

detailed a defendant’s sexual acts. See People v. Bryant, 391 Ill. App. 3d 1072, 1083, 909 N.E.2d 

391, 401 (2009) (affirming the admission of the minor victim’s hearsay statements to others 

pursuant to section 115-10 of the Code despite the minor’s unwillingness or inability to testify on 

direct examination about specific sexual conduct the defendant forced the minor to perform). 

¶ 66 In Stull, 2014 IL App (4th) 120704, 5 N.E.3d 328, this court addressed essentially the 

same argument that defendant makes in this case. We rejected that argument in Stull (id. ¶¶ 96­

101), and we reiterate that rejection here. As we wrote in Stull, “When *** a prior statement is 

offered at trial as substantive evidence under an exception to the hearsay rule, the mere fact that 

the statement is consistent with the declarant’s trial testimony does not render that prior 

statement no longer admissible.” (Emphasis in original.) Id. ¶ 100. Accordingly, in the context of 

a section 115-10 hearing, the rule proscribing the admission of a witness’s prior consistent 

statements has no application whatsoever. Therefore, we reject defendant’s argument. 

¶ 67 3. Cumulative Evidence 

¶ 68 In Stull, this court cited numerous cases in which the appellate court addressed 

and consistently rejected the argument defendant now raises—that is, that the hearsay statements 

the trial court admitted under section 115-10 of the Code were unnecessarily cumulative and 

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prejudicial. Id. ¶ 93. See People v. Greenwood, 2012 IL App (1st) 100566, ¶ 31, 971 N.E.2d 

1116 (rejecting the defendant’s argument that the trial court erred by admitting hearsay 

statements of multiple witnesses pursuant to section 115-10 and collecting cases in support of 

that conclusion); People v. Lofton, 303 Ill. App. 3d 501, 508, 708 N.E.2d 569, 574 (1999) 

(rejecting the defendant’s argument that the trial court’s admission of evidence provided by four 

witnesses regarding the victim’s out-of-court statements was cumulative and served to bolster the 

State’s case because section 115-10 places no limitations on the number of witnesses who may 

testify under its strictures); People v. Moss, 275 Ill. App. 3d 748, 756, 656 N.E.2d 193, 199 

(1995) (declining to limit hearsay testimony admissible under section 115-10 to one witness 

because the statute contains no such limitation); People v. Branch, 158 Ill. App. 3d 338, 341, 511 

N.E.2d 872, 874 (1987) (section 115-10 does not limit the number of witnesses corroborating the 

victim’s complaint to one). 

¶ 69 Defendant acknowledges Greenwood, Lofton, and Moss, but, citing dicta in People v. 

Anderson, 225 Ill. App. 3d 636, 587 N.E.2d 1050 (1992), asserts that the cumulative nature of 

the section 115-10 statements the State presented at his jury trial tilted the scales of justice 

against him in what defendant claims was a closely balanced case. 

¶ 70 In Anderson, the defendant argued that “he was denied a fair trial by the repetition of *** 

statements by three witnesses” admitted under section 115-10 of the Code. Id. at 648, 587 N.E.2d 

at 1059. In rejecting that argument, the appellate court quoted, in part, the following passage: 

“ ‘Youthful victims often suffer an inability to articulate on the witness 

stand or lack credibility in general. Their complaints obviously become more 

credible, reliable and understandable when supported by corroborative complaint 

testimony from adults. Those who are close to the victim or who have interviewed 

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the victim and investigated the alleged incidents should not be curtailed from 

testifying and aiding the victim merely because of their numbers or order of 

talking with the victim.’ ” Id. (quoting Branch, 158 Ill. App. 3d at 341, 511 

N.E.2d at 873-74). 

¶ 71 After finding the analysis in Branch dispositive of the defendant’s argument, the 

Anderson court continued, as follows: 

“However, we caution that in some future case where the evidence is more closely 

balanced we would not hesitate to grant a defendant a new trial if it appears that 

the delicate scales of justice have been unfairly tilted by the sheer weight of 

repetition. We trust in the sound discretion of the trial courts to maintain the 

proper balance by limiting evidence which is unnecessarily cumulative.” Id. 

¶ 72 We note that in quoting the aforementioned dicta in Anderson to support his assertion, 

defendant did not include the last sentence regarding our deferential review of the trial court’s 

section 115-10 evidentiary ruling. In essence, defendant is asking this court to set aside the trial 

court’s judgment and implement our own by concluding that the trial court abused its discretion 

when it admitted the corroborative hearsay statements G.Z. conveyed to Amber, Stonewall, 

Damilano, and Moment because they were unnecessarily cumulative and, by extension, 

prejudicial. Under the facts presented, however, we have no reason to conclude that the trial 

court’s decision to admit the section 115-10 statements at issue constituted an arbitrary, fanciful, 

or unreasonable determination that no reasonable person would agree was sound. 

¶ 73 In so concluding, we note that in raising this argument, defendant implies that section 

115-10 should be narrowly construed so as not to violate the rule against cumulative evidence. In 

People v. Johnson, 2016 IL App (4th) 150004, ¶¶ 40-45, 55 N.E.3d 32, we specifically rejected 

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any notion that current Illinois jurisprudence requires section 115-10 to be narrowly construed. 

To the extent defendant is claiming otherwise, we reaffirm and adhere to our conclusion in 

Johnson. 

¶ 74 As we have previously mentioned, section 115-10 of the Code allows for the admission 

of a hearsay statement conveyed to another person by a victim of a sexual crime who is under the 

age of 13 years old “if, among other things, the trial court ‘finds in a hearing’ that ‘the time, 

content, and circumstances of the statement provide sufficient safeguards of reliability.’ ” Id. 

¶ 48 (quoting 725 ILCS 5/115-10(b)(1) (West 2014)). Because defendant has not challenged the 

court’s reliability determinations, we reject defendant’s section 115-10 challenges. 

¶ 75 B. Jury Selection 

¶ 76 Defendant argues that the trial court erred by prohibiting defense counsel from 

questioning venire members individually about personal experiences they or their family 

members had with sexual abuse. Defendant contends that the court (1) impermissibly denied 

defense counsel’s request to directly question prospective jurors to uncover their “deep[-]seated 

biases and prejudice” and (2) did not consider the factors in Illinois Supreme Court Rule 431(a) 

(eff. July 1, 2012) when it denied defendant’s request to directly question prospective jurors. We 

disagree. 

¶ 77 Rule 431(a) provides the following guidance: 

“The court shall conduct voir dire examination of prospective jurors by putting to 

them questions it thinks appropriate, touching upon their qualifications to serve as 

jurors in the case at trial. The court may permit the parties to submit additional 

questions to it for further inquiry if it thinks they are appropriate and shall permit 

the parties to supplement the examination by such direct inquiry as the court 

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deems proper for a reasonable period of time depending upon the length of 

examination by the court, the complexity of the case, and the nature of the 

charges. Questions shall not directly or indirectly concern matters of law or 

instructions. The court shall acquaint prospective jurors with the general duties 

and responsibilities of jurors.” Ill. S. Ct. R. 431(a) (eff. July 1, 2012). 

¶ 78 In People v. Mabry, 398 Ill. App. 3d 745, 754, 926 N.E.2d 732, 740 (2010), the First 

District succinctly set forth the following pertinent standard of review: 

“It is axiomatic that the manner and scope of voir dire rest within the 

sound discretion of the trial court. [Citation.] In conducting the voir dire, the trial 

court is accorded broad discretion in determining which questions will be asked 

and which procedures will be followed. [Citation.] The trial court should always 

exercise its discretion in a manner that is consistent with the goals of voir dire—to 

assure the selection of an impartial jury, free from bias or prejudice, and grant 

counsel an intelligent basis on which to exercise peremptory challenges. 

[Citation.] Upon review, the standard for evaluating a court’s exercise of 

discretion during the voir dire is whether the questions and procedures created 

reasonable assurance that any prejudice or bias would be discovered. [Citation.]” 

¶ 79 Based on the record in this case, we find unavailing defendant’s claims that the voir dire 

procedures the trial court employed—which included the specific questions the court posed to 

three separate panels of venire members—were deficient, which would, by extension, cast doubt 

upon the impartiality of the empanelled jurors. In support of his contentions, defendant directs 

our attention to People v. Oliver, 265 Ill. App. 3d 543, 637 N.E.2d 1173 (1994). 

¶ 80 In Oliver, the trial court asked the entire panel of seated venire members to rise if they 

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had been a victim of armed robbery, rape, sexual assault, or had a friend or relative who had 

been the victim of a homicide. Id. at 549, 637 N.E.2d at 1178. Out of the approximately 15 to 20 

venire members that stood up, the court excused one prospective juror. Id. at 550, 637 N.E.2d at 

1178. The appellate court reversed and remanded for a new trial, finding as follows: 

“While the trial court’s procedure was to ask about the specific crimes involved in 

this case, the trial court abused its discretion. It merely asked questions but did not 

permit the jurors to respond individually. Nor was defense counsel afforded the 

opportunity to make a determination as to whether jurors were biased or 

impartial.” Id. 

We do not agree with defendant’s assertion that the circumstances presented in Oliver are 

“strikingly analogous” to the facts of the instant case. 

¶ 81 Here, an experienced trial judge employed a voir dire procedure that balanced the dignity 

afforded prospective jurors with regard to their reasonable expectations of privacy with the 

primary purpose of a voir dire examination, which is to exclude prospective jurors who are 

unwilling or unable to be impartial arbiters. In so doing, the trial court posed specific questions 

tailored to elicit responses from manageable panels, which the court was prepared to explore if, 

in the court’s judgment, further questioning was warranted. Indeed, when appropriate, the court 

did ask additional focused questions that permitted individual venire members to expand on their 

initial answers. At no time did the court prohibit the State or defense counsel from proffering 

supplemental questions on the sensitive issue of a venire member’s personal experiences with 

sexual crimes. The only requirement the court mandated was that the parties had to submit any 

proposed questions to the court, which we (1) do not find unreasonable and (2) note defendant 

did not utilize. 

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¶ 82 Despite defendant’s claims to the contrary, we are satisfied that not only was the voir dire 

procedure the trial court implemented in accord with Rule 431(a), but it also created reasonable 

assurances that any prejudice or bias would have been discovered, as demonstrated. 

¶ 83 C. Fee for Court-Appointed Counsel 

¶ 84 Defendant argues that this court should vacate the fee for court-appointed counsel that the 

trial court improperly imposed without first conducting a hearing as mandated by section 113-3.1 

of the Code. We agree. 

¶ 85 1. Section 113-3.1 of the Code and the Standard of Review 

¶ 86 Section 113-3.1(a) of the Code provides, as follows: 

“Whenever *** the court appoints counsel to represent a defendant, the court may 

order the defendant to pay to the Clerk of the Circuit Court a reasonable sum to 

reimburse either the county or the State for such representation. In a hearing to 

determine the amount of the payment, the court shall consider the affidavit 

prepared by the defendant under Section 113-3 of this Code and any other 

information pertaining to the defendant’s financial circumstances which may be 

submitted by the parties. Such hearing shall be conducted on the court’s own 

motion or on motion of the State’s Attorney at any time after the appointment of 

counsel but no later than 90 days after the entry of a final order disposing of the 

case at the trial level.” 725 ILCS 5/113-3.1(a) (West 2012). 

¶ 87 We review de novo whether a trial court complied with section 113-3.1 of the Code when 

imposing a fee for court-appointed counsel. People v. Gutierrez, 2012 IL 111590, ¶ 16, 962 

N.E.2d 437. 

¶ 88 2. The Pertinent Portions of Defendant’s Sentencing Hearing 

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¶ 89 At defendant’s April 2014 sentencing hearing, the following exchange occurred: 

“[THE STATE]: [The State has] marked *** People’s 1 ***. The Public 

Defender’s Office filed an affidavit of services ***. Ask to admit People’s 1. 

THE COURT: Any objections. 

[DEFENSE COUNSEL]: Yeah, we do, object, Judge. I’m not sure why 

the State’s seeking to admit People’s 1. 

THE COURT: *** [T]he State represents the County. The County incurs 

expenses when the Public Defender’s Office is appointed to represent an 

individual, and they represented [defendant] for a period of time before you 

entered your appearance. *** 

[DEFENSE COUNSEL]: Well, I guess there could be attached some sort 

of order for sentencing. I do have an assignment of bond that covered my fees 

***. 

THE COURT: [The court] understand[s].” 

¶ 90 Shortly thereafter, the court imposed the following sentence: 

“It will be the judgment and sentence of the court that [defendant] be sentenced to 

the Illinois Department of Corrections for a period of four years. *** There is a 

two-year period of mandatory supervised release to that sentence. 

The bond assignment will be honored. 

You are also indebted to the County in the amount of $1,250. That’s not to 

be taken from the bond assignment.” 

¶ 91 3. The Controversy at Issue 

¶ 92 Defendant contends that because the trial court failed to conduct even a slight inquiry into 

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defendant’s financial circumstances, the $1250 fee for court-appointed counsel that the court 

improperly imposed must be vacated outright. The State concedes that the court failed to conduct 

a proper section 113-3.1 hearing but asserts that this court should remand the matter for a proper 

hearing instead of vacating the fee outright as defendant advocates. In support of its position, the 

State relies on People v. Somers, 2013 IL 114054, ¶ 14, 984 N.E.2d 471. 

¶ 93 In Somers, the supreme court considered whether section 113-3.1(a) of the Code 

authorized the appellate court to remand for a rehearing on the defendant’s ability to pay a fee 

for court-appointed counsel if more than 90 days had elapsed since the entry of the trial court’s 

final judgment. Id. ¶ 9. In addressing that issue, the supreme court focused on the trial court’s 

attempt to comply with section 113-3.1(a) of the Code by conducting a hearing within the 

aforementioned 90-day period that the appellate court later determined to be insufficient. Id. 

¶ 13. Specifically, the trial court conducted a hearing at which the court asked the defendant 

three questions concerning his employment status. Id. ¶ 4. Based on the defendant’s answers, the 

court imposed a $200 fee for court-appointed counsel. Id. 

¶ 94 On appeal, the supreme court affirmed the appellate court’s remand for a proper publicdefender-fee hearing under section 113-3.1(a) of the Code (id. ¶ 20), concluding that the trial 

court’s questions about defendant’s employment status were insufficient to satisfy section 113­

3.1(a) of the Code (id. ¶ 14). The supreme court continued, as follows: 

“Clearly, then, the trial court did not fully comply with the statute, and 

defendant is entitled to a new hearing. Just as clearly, though, the trial court did 

have some sort of a hearing within the statutory time period. The trial court 

inquired of defendant whether he thought he could get a job when he was released 

from jail, whether he planned on using his future income to pay his fines and 

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costs, and whether there was any physical reason why he could not work. Only 

after hearing defendant’s answers to these questions did the court impose the fee. 

Thus, we agree with the State’s contention that the problem here is not that the 

trial court did not hold a hearing within 90 days, but that the hearing that the court 

did hold was insufficient to comply with the statute.” Id. ¶ 15. 

¶ 95 As noted, the controversy does not concern whether the trial court improperly imposed 

the $1250 fee for court-appointed counsel. Both parties agree on this point, and based on this 

record, we accept the parties’ concession. Instead, the issue before us concerns whether this court 

should (1) vacate the fee for court-appointed counsel outright as defendant urges or (2) remand 

the matter for a rehearing that complies with section 113-3.1(a) of the Code as the State 

advocates. Defendant contends that Somers is distinguishable because, contrary to the State’s 

assertion, the court never questioned him about his employment status, financial situation, or 

ability to pay a fee for court-appointed counsel. Instead, the court imposed the $1250 fee for 

court-appointed counsel. We do not agree with defendant that Somers is distinguishable because 

the supreme court could have easily stated “some sort of a hearing” must at minimum include a 

slight inquiry about the defendant’s ability to pay the fee, but it did not do so. Id. 

¶ 96 In this case, defendant appeared before the trial court with his retained counsel after 

having been initially represented by the public defender. The State sought to introduce the public 

defender’s affidavit of services on defendant’s behalf, and defendant’s retained counsel and the 

court discussed defendant’s posting of bond. This exchange between defendant’s retained 

counsel and the court did constitute “some sort of a hearing.” Id. Although the hearing was 

inadequate, the situation here is distinguishable from one where a court sua sponte addresses and 

assesses a fee in a docket entry or written order. See People v. Aguirre-Alarcon, 2016 IL App 

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(4th) 140455, ¶ 17, 59 N.E.3d 229 (where the court sua sponte assessed a fee for court-appointed 

counsel in a supplemental sentencing order without the parties’ knowledge). 

¶ 97 Accordingly, we vacate the trial court’s imposition of $1250 fee for court-appointed 

counsel and remand with directions that the court conduct a hearing pursuant to section 113-3.1 

of the Code. 

¶ 98 III. CONCLUSION 

¶ 99 For the foregoing reasons, we affirm defendant’s conviction, vacate defendant’s $1250 

fee for court-appointed counsel, and remand for further proceedings. 

¶ 100 Affirmed in part and vacated in part; cause remanded. 

¶ 101 JUSTICE TURNER, specially concurring. 

¶ 102 While I concur in the majority’s opinion, I write separately to express that I take 

no part in the majority’s brief discussion in paragraph 73. It is unnecessary for the resolution of 

this case and contrary to the views that I have previously expressed regarding the issue of 

construing section 115-10. See Johnson, 2016 IL App (4th) 150004, ¶¶ 92-95, 55 N.E.3d 32 

(Turner, J., specially concurring). 

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