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BEFORE THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY



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DATE: July 16, 1985 PLACE: Washington, D.C. PAGES: 1 - 6



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### 12 BEFORE THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY 16,1985

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### 24 25 2 P R CE E D I N S MR. McCABE: and welcome@ I
am Michael sory neer the ng Division I would 1 to s to extent on behalf the of

I our to you ng to partici in this ic hearing. The Energy Policy and Conservat Act, as amended by the National Conservation Policy Act,
res that the be energy efficiency for 13 iances. To date, DOE final ficiency eight of the 13 of icances. On December 22, 1982, a final was i 1 ster to c

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### 24 25 3 On 22, 1982, the 1 set
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as a re t of a final with respect to applicance ficiency standards. On May 24, 1985, a Notice Proposed ng was ished in the 1 ster in which DOE proposed to grant two state tions. These petitions, submittedby Michigan and Hawaii, request that icable state energy efficiency standards ning water heaters, furnaces, clothes dryers and/or ki ranges ovens be exempted from the 1 ion. The purpose IS is to oral test the on to the Michigan and Hawaii for on 1 of cularly intere in comments to the the state and the State on interstate tion.

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### 24 25 Joiningme is Neal Strauss the Office General and for this As the presi offici of this ng I Ii to set the lines ing this hearing
s 11 not be an ary orjudicial type of ing. It 11 be conducted accordance th Section 335 of Ti 5, United States Code. Initial questions may be asked by the members of the panel conducting the hearing, any person ng to direct a question to a speaker in to his or her testimony at this hearingmay submit question inwriting at strationde pres ficial 11 ne the is evant and time limi t it to pre to the person to it is addressed it 11

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### 24 25 6 The of the written comment period is 4 00 p.m, 22, 1985. All comments or to that time on the proposal 11 be considered to the fullest extent in developing the final le DOE not fi
a to the close of the written comment period for interested parties to submit comments on the comments received prior to the close of the written comment od, DOE 11 consider the possi extent "comments on comments" whi are in a 1 comments received 11 be available for ic inspection at the DOE I on Room at Room 1E-190 of the Forrestal Iding in ngton, D.C.

is At s time, I like ask if anyone shes to an unscheduled oral presentation? (No response.)**~1R.** McCABE: none then shearing

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This is to certifv that the att2ched**?rcceedi~gs** before the Department of Energy (Name of Agencv't
in the matter 0+=· 1... • Conservation and Renuable Energy
Docket CE-CP-SPRM
Place: Washington
..D.C
Date: July 16, 1985

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