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Tracey Seabolt: Thank you Jeff and thanks to all of you for spending the 

next hour of your day with me to consider the best ways to develop a 

compliant and competitive America for Indian tribes budget.

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Tracey Seabolt: Sorry, I have a little bit of feedback i'm trying to get 

rid of here.

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Tracey Seabolt: I encourage your engagement in this webinar as you heard 

you can use the Q amp a panel to ask questions at any time.

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Tracey Seabolt: And my colleague Monet porter is helping me to monitor 

monitor the Q amp a panel and she'll remind me to pause throughout the 

presentation to read and answer your questions, so please be patient if 

we don't get to your questions immediately.

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Tracey Seabolt: We are working our way through them and sometimes we may 

pause just because we know that that content is coming up a little later 

in the in the conversation.

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Tracey Seabolt: Before you do ask a question, we also ask you to keep in 

mind that we cannot respond to specific questions about the content of 

your proposed budget web rather we will provide clarifications to help 

you submit a compliant budget.

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Tracey Seabolt: You should use the nofollow and the application 

instructions to determine the most appropriate budget that meets your 

stated program needs.

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Tracey Seabolt: Additionally, we will check your understanding of various 

concepts, by asking you questions throughout this session, so please 

respond to these questions in the chat box and let's just test that out 

if you're ready to get started, give me a yes in the chat box, please.

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Tracey Seabolt: Oh no one's ready to get started, there we go that's what 

I wanted to see great i'm certainly ready to get started.

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Tracey Seabolt: Before I move into the specific content of our session 

know that we are going to reference a sample budget narrative throughout 

this session.

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Tracey Seabolt: And we'll also post that on the americorps state and 

national brands fyi 2021 funding page after this webinar.

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Tracey Seabolt: I think sandy just dropped it into the chat box, if you 

have a newer version of zoom you should be able to access it and follow, 

along with it and, if not.

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Tracey Seabolt: As Jeff said we're going to post the recording of this 

presentation on the funding page and we'll post that sample budget right 

along with it.

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Tracey Seabolt: And I also want to thank you for responding to the 

various poll questions just knowing who is on this call, and what your 

needs are really helps us to focus on the points that are most relevant 

to you.

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Tracey Seabolt: So we appreciate that I do want to point out, I see that 

there's at least one fixed amount award that that someone's working on.

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Tracey Seabolt: And so I want you to I want to make sure you're aware 

that the majority of this discussion is going to focus on budgets that 

are submitted as part of a cost reimbursement application.

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Tracey Seabolt: And although fixed fixed award recipients aren't subject 

to the same budget and cost principal requirements as the cost 

reimbursement awards are.

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Tracey Seabolt: This conversation is going to help all applicants both 

cost reimbursement and fixed award applicants improve their fiscal 

management responsibilities so even if you're planning to submit a fixed 

of.

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Tracey Seabolt: Ward application, you may find the information helpful 

you're welcome to remain connected, although if you decide that it's 

better for you to drop off, I certainly understand that as well.

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Tracey Seabolt: Either way, regardless of what type of application you're 

submitting my goal for today is really to help you the americorps tribal.

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Tracey Seabolt: grant applicant acquire the knowledge and skills that you 

need to understand the function of and to develop and effect effective 

americorps Budget and Budget narrative.

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Tracey Seabolt: and your submission of a complete and high quality budget 

will really help to demonstrate that you have the fiscal capacity to 

manage an americorps Program.

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Tracey Seabolt: During this session we will holistically review the 

components of an americorps budget, which includes the americorps 

resources and your matching resources.

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Tracey Seabolt: And at the end of the webinar you should understand how 

to determine if those costs are allowable.

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Tracey Seabolt: Reasonable necessary and applicable, as determined by two 

CFR 200 the office of management and budgets uniform administrative 

requirements.

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Tracey Seabolt: Cost principles and audit requirements for federal awards 

frequently referred to as a uniform guidance and using this information 

and the tips and best practices that we share here today, you should be 

prepared to submit a compliant and competitive budget.

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Tracey Seabolt: So, because the budget and the budget narrative becomes 

part of the grant recipients contract with americorps we want, and we 

expect our applicants to present a strong and accurate document.

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Tracey Seabolt: The approved budget will not only serve as a financial 

guide for grant supported activities but it helps to ensure the terms and 

conditions of the award.
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Tracey Seabolt: In addition to helping americorps monitor the grant and 

financial compliance, it can serve as a tool for both americorps and 

award recipients to measure progress toward the match requirements and 

monitor budgeted expenses to actual expenses, as part of your budget 

management process.

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Tracey Seabolt: Before we dive into the details of budget development I 

do want to point out the budget development is just one component.

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Tracey Seabolt: of an effective budget management process so let's just 

take a moment to look at the full process.

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Tracey Seabolt: As you started to work on your americorps application, 

you may have asked yourself how do I design a strong budget.

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Tracey Seabolt: You know just real quickly there's no right or wrong 

answer, but if you did that just throw it in the chat tell me that you 

did, whether it was to yourself, or to someone else on your team.

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Tracey Seabolt: You know, think about that who else could help you to 

develop your budget.

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Tracey Seabolt: You know and and how would you engage them.

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Tracey Seabolt: So, think about that as we go through this next piece.

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Tracey Seabolt: And again whether you started the process with that 

question or not, as part of the pre award project development process.

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Tracey Seabolt: You probably determine the needs, you want to address 

with americorps resources you set up program and project goals and 

objectives and you decided on a strategy to accomplish those goals.

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Tracey Seabolt: And then to develop the budget applicants must translate 

the strategy into dollars and prepare a budget that's aligned with the 

stated Program.

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Tracey Seabolt: goals and objectives and then posterboard grantees will 

continue to manage their budgets effectively by establishing a budget 

control process.

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Tracey Seabolt: Monitoring expenses that is regularly comparing your 

budget to actual expenses to check for over and understanding and then 

modifying the budget as necessary with approval from America poor when 

required so today's conversation is going to focus on that budget 

preparation process.

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Tracey Seabolt: let's start by talking about an approved budget, it 

should be realistic, that is, it should reflect expected program revenues 

and expenses and its capacity to carry out program activities.

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Tracey Seabolt: And it should be consistent and aligned with the 

program's goals and objectives, and it should be flexible programs 

financial and operating circumstances change and we know that they have 

budget must adapt to those changing circumstances.

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Tracey Seabolt: And for now we'll focus on the realistic and consistent 

features as they relate to budget design.

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Tracey Seabolt: A few minutes ago I outline the steps that your team may 

have taken as part of the budget development process and I asked you who 

you could engage.

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Tracey Seabolt: We really encourage applicants to approach budget design 

as a team activity engaging various.

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Tracey Seabolt: various departments, based on the individual expertise 

and I know Patricia had noted in the chat.

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Tracey Seabolt: That time was a huge issue for her and her biggest 

concern about putting together this budget.
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Tracey Seabolt: And I think engaging these other teams can help you to 

figure out, you know what is it that I need to do, how can I put my 

budget together.

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Tracey Seabolt: So, think about what departments or individuals in your 

organization, you could engage on your budget design team and what 

expertise, they provide.

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Tracey Seabolt: And we put that in the chat if you've got some ideas i'd 

love to see you enter in the chat who you could involve.

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Tracey Seabolt: So just take a moment and give us, you know some 

departments some individuals that you know their title, they could 

support you, through this process and what specific expertise, they might 

bring to the process.

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Tracey Seabolt: Accounting department fiscal support staff absolutely 

your Accounting Office will have historical spending rates and they can 

help you to review the budget for clarity, you know they certainly have 

that kind of information that they can they can help you with other 

ideas.

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Tracey Seabolt: Your human resources department, they should have the 

salary, the French the criminal history check costs.

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Tracey Seabolt: Finance director absolutely your finance director again 

if you can always go to those folks to be that that extra set of eyes to 

double check to make sure that this is a accurate document.

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Tracey Seabolt: Compliance department or a grants office yeah absolutely 

they should be able to look to see if your document is compliant with the 

requirements.

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Tracey Seabolt: You know your program team is going to have the cost for 

training, your Members delivering services so so I just.

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Tracey Seabolt: Caution you and encourage you, rather, to to think beyond 

just yourself and not take this on solely but really think about the 

other resources that are available to you, we don't want you to undertake 

this process in a vacuum.

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Tracey Seabolt: So go out and involve as many others, as you need to 

including your government leadership, you know you want to get the most 

realistic data.

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Tracey Seabolt: You want to make sure this aligns with the programmatic 

goals and objectives and you want this to be accurate.

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Tracey Seabolt: Our team always laughs about the mom test and having mom 

look at your budget to see if there's you know some math is right.

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Tracey Seabolt: But having somebody else look at it just takes a little 

bit of the pressure off of you.

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Tracey Seabolt: But we also recommend using the historical information as 

much as possible again your accounting department should have that 

information and then you just need to adjust the data as needed so that 

it's time layer

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Tracey Seabolt: And you know that's when in your budget description and 

then you'll note that this is based on historical information.

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Tracey Seabolt: When finished your strong budget design it really does 

provide a framework for effective budget management, it ensures a 

realistic scope appropriate detail a competitive proposal compliance and 

effective delivery, that is, it serves as a guide for program 

implementation.

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Tracey Seabolt: And in order to create a budget that is strong, accurate 

and requires minimal clarification, again, I encourage you to take your 

time, I know that that's a concern but take your time and engage others 

in data collection and quality review.

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Tracey Seabolt: But as I previously noted, one of the objectives for 

today's session is to provide you with tips and tools for creating a 

competitive budget narrative.

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Tracey Seabolt: And the first tip is to read and follow the instructions 

in the nofollow and the application instructions which includes the 

minimum and maximum cost levels and required line items, both of which 

we'll discuss a little later in the presentation.

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Tracey Seabolt: Within the application instructions you'll find detailed 

budget instructions for cost reimbursement grants and attachments the nc 

and then, if you're a fixed amount grant applicant you'll find those 

detailed instructions in a attachments Danny.

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Tracey Seabolt: The strongest and most compliant the budget narratives 

adhere to guidelines in these documents which saves us all time and 

effort later.

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Tracey Seabolt: I also encourage you to become familiar with the uniform 

guidance and only include those costs that are allowable reasonable 

necessary and analytical and you can find the uniform guidance online at 

a cfr.gov under Title to grants and agreements.

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Tracey Seabolt: After you and your team estimate the financial resources, 

you need to achieve the state of program goes to organize them into the 

narratives budget categories again following the guidance in the Novo.

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Tracey Seabolt: Excuse me, and the application instructions and, as you 

develop the narrative remember to provide adequate descriptions and clear 

calculations.

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Tracey Seabolt: He grants will automatically populate a budget summary 

and budget narrative report that should be able to serve as a standalone 

document.

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Tracey Seabolt: Without a need to reference the application narrative for 

explanation for this reason I always recommend having someone outside of 

the budget development team review that document for holes and inaccuracy 

so and again that goes back to our mom test.

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Tracey Seabolt: The uniform guidance, as well as the Novo and the 

application instructions specify cost considered allowable such as 

lobbying and entertainment and alcoholic beverages and fundraising.

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Tracey Seabolt: americorps strongly encourages applicants to review that 

uniform guidance to avoid, including on allowable costs in your proposed 

budget.

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Tracey Seabolt: Other unelectable costs include those that are not 

necessary to meet the program objectives.

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Tracey Seabolt: For example, budgeting americorps symposium travel 

expenses for six staff, when only four steps are on the americorps budget 

is not allowable and it could be considered waste, fraud or abuse.

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Tracey Seabolt: Another example is budgeting let's say $5,000 for 

landscaping equipment and materials for literacy program these are costs 

that would be considered allowable from a prudent person perspective or 

have no logical basis for inclusion in the budget.

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Tracey Seabolt: it's important to remember that if a cost is on the 

allowable as part of the americorps share, it is also an allowable as 

part of the grantee share or you're required match.

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Tracey Seabolt: As shown on this visual the grantee share of total cost 

increases over time first time successful applicants are required to 

match at 24% for the first three year funding period.

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Tracey Seabolt: beginning in your for the match requirement gradually 

increases each year to 50% or a minimum dollar for dollar match by your 

10.

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Tracey Seabolt: cashing in kind contributions are acceptable match when 

they are necessary and reasonable for proper and efficient accomplishment 

of project or program objectives.

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Tracey Seabolt: When they are allowable under the uniform guidance and 

application instructions when they are not included in the approved or 
when they are included in the approved budget and allowable under program 

guidelines.

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Tracey Seabolt: When they are not paid by the Federal Government under 

another award except when authorized by federal statute.

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Tracey Seabolt: When they are compliant with the terms of conditions of 

the award and uniform guidance and when they are verifiable from the 

organization's records.

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Tracey Seabolt: The matching resources must be treated the same as 

americorps share and consistent treatment includes complete and accurate 

documentation.

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Tracey Seabolt: A frequently heard phrase in the world of grants 

management is if it didn't have if it isn't documented it didn't happen, 

so please do make sure to document all of your expenses.

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Tracey Seabolt: I want to go back to the point that matching resources 

are allowable when they are not paid for by the Federal Government under 

another award except when authorized by federal stretch statute public 

law 93 638 allows tribes to use federal funding for other awards.

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Tracey Seabolt: i'm sorry to meet caching sorry to meet cashing in kind 

of requirements for grants from another federal agency so entities that 

are applying.

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Tracey Seabolt: on behalf of a federally recognized tribes must obtain 

approval from the other agency to use these funds as match and know that 

you need to report these to America or on your federal financial report.

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Tracey Seabolt: also keep in mind that you may not use other americorps 

resources such as vista or America or senior resources is match for 

another americorps award.

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Tracey Seabolt: Because the applicants must demonstrate an adequate plan 

for non americorps support they're required to include the source of 

matching the budget narrative entering a description of the source.
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Tracey Seabolt: Along with the amount of cash or in kind classification, 

the type of match source, that is, whether it's state or local government 

federal funds or private donations.

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Tracey Seabolt: And confirmation of whether the sources of match are 

secured or proposed you do not need to secure 100% of your match prior to 

submitting the application, but anticipated match must be included and 

the total in this section must equal, the amount of match shown on the 

budget.

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Tracey Seabolt: Also, please note that he grants rounds, the budgeted 

manager of mount up to the nearest percentage so.

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Tracey Seabolt: If you have a budget with 49.7% match that's actually 

going to appear in a grants as a 50% match, even though it's not $1 for 

dollar match, so I always recommend it your calculate your percentage 

outside of he grants to make sure that you're meeting or exceeding the 

required percentage.

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Tracey Seabolt: Alright i'm going to take a break and pause and see if we 

have any questions that have come in, yet Monet did we have any questions 

in that Q amp a panel yet.

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Monae Porter: So we did not have any questions as of now, but I do have a 

question for you.

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Tracey Seabolt: Okay sure.

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Monae Porter: So my question is must grantees meet the exact match each 

year, or is the mass cumulative over the three year award.

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Tracey Seabolt: Great question that the regulatory match is a cumulative 

amount So although americorps monitors those contributions through the 

semi annual FF our submissions.

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Tracey Seabolt: You grantees are not required to meet the cumulative 

match contributions until close out.
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Tracey Seabolt: there's flexibility to meet the requirements over the 

grant life so obviously the first three years when it's 2424 and 24%.

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Tracey Seabolt: You know that cumulative amount is going to be 23 but 

then after that it's going to be based on the annual award and whatever 

the matches for that annual award.

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Tracey Seabolt: The total amount of the required match that cumulative 

amount is what grantees are required to meet at close out great question 

thanks renee okay.

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Monae Porter: And so I know that americorps issued a match waiver, in 

response to the cove it so if a currency if a grantee is currently 

operating within a match waiver is it Okay, for them to submit the fly 

application without match resources i'm assuming that the waiver will 

continue into fyi 2021.

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Tracey Seabolt: yeah actually the tribal no photo references the match 

waiver that was issued for state and national grantees back in December.

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Tracey Seabolt: So, as a result of this waiver applicants may submit 

budgets with less than the full required match included, however, I 

really caution you to think about what you're submitting in that budget.

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Tracey Seabolt: We know that these programs cannot operate on the cash 

resources received by americorps so think about what else you need to 

support that program and take every possible effort to show how you will 

support your program beyond the americorps resources.

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Tracey Seabolt: Great question and before we move on, I do want to note 

that, while there are no match requirements for fixed amount of grants.

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Tracey Seabolt: Applicants are required to enter the source of matching 

funds so if you're applying for a fixed amount award please make sure you 

complete this section to show that you're covering the program costs 

beyond those provided by americorps.

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Tracey Seabolt: As you enter data into your budget narrative, you will 

notice that includes both the americorps and grantees share project costs 

additionally.

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Tracey Seabolt: The budget classifies costs into direct and indirect or 

administrative costs categories direct costs include program operating 

costs and Member costs while but.

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Tracey Seabolt: watch the budget breaks into major categories that may 

include specific line items such as those shown here on the slide.

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Tracey Seabolt: These costs are applicable to the grant that is their 

associated with specific grant related activities.

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Tracey Seabolt: and general or centralized organizational expenses spread 

across the entire organization or indirect or administrative costs.

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Tracey Seabolt: And as you the americorps applicant develop your budget 

management systems and, specifically, the budget control process you'll 

want to establish clear policies and procedures for tracking and 

documenting these expenses.

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Tracey Seabolt: So now, but it takes some time to review the specific 

budget categories and related guidance in the americorps application 

instructions and we'll start with section one.

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Tracey Seabolt: Which is the program operating costs, so that the cost of 

doing business essentially.

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Tracey Seabolt: In section a our personnel expenses your individually 

list each staff position supported by the grant and provide the annual 

salary.

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Tracey Seabolt: and level of effort as a percentage of the F T devoted to 

this award remember to only include positions that are supported by the 

application narrative.

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Tracey Seabolt: and make sure not to include the value of direct 

Community service performed by volunteers unless it's for organizational 

functions such as accounting or auditing or training.

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Tracey Seabolt: In addition, if you have multiple americorps grants it's 

a good idea to confirm you're not over budgeting, that is, including more 

than 100% of staff time on your budgets.

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Tracey Seabolt: You can do this by including a statement in each line at 

the end of the section that says, the percentage of time allocated to 

this budget.

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Tracey Seabolt: does not exceed 100% across all americorps brands, 

additionally, you should confirm that the salary information you provide 

is consistent across multiple brands.

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Tracey Seabolt: And while it might be appropriate to budget, the 

executive director salary at 89,000 on one application in 99,000 on 

another you know, six months later, you can justify that saying that you 

know this is related to cost of living and performance related salary 

increases.

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Tracey Seabolt: on the fringe section, you will identify the type of 

fringe benefit for example fica workers COMP retirement state employee 

unemployment, health and life insurance IRA, you know all of those fringe 

benefits for each staff.

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Tracey Seabolt: And those fringe benefit cost should align with the 

salary lines, that is, the section should only include staff included in 

the personnel.

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Tracey Seabolt: Expenses section if the benefit amount is more than 30% 

of the salary costs, you must list covered benefits separately and 

justify that cost and Monet, can I ask you, can you take over the 

presentation for just a bit place.

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Monae Porter: sure.

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Monae Porter: favorite we're starting on Section see.

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Tracey Seabolt: Travel yes.

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Tracey Seabolt: Thank you so much.

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Monae Porter: Alright guys so i'm going to pick up where she left off, 

and that is section C, which is travel, so it was important to please 

include the purpose of costs and the type of trip trip.

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Monae Porter: Travel such as air ground transportation lodging per diem 

you'll also want to include the number of TRIPS and the number of staff 

or members traveling.

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Monae Porter: Make sure this calculation is clear and simple to follow 

and you should note that americorps sponsor technical assistance is an 

expectation of all applicants and travel funds.

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Monae Porter: And should be met, it should be budgeted for new grantees 

and new staff of existing grantees to attend to americorps symposium pre 

conference events.

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Monae Porter: So it is important to take care to separate staff and 

Member travel costs and ensure that training costs are not included in 

this section.

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Monae Porter: And that travel costs are not included in the training 

lines, so you may budget mileage at a higher rate than the federal 

reimbursement rate, which is 56 cents per mile as of January first 2020 

if that follows your organization's policy and, if so, make a note of 

that, in the budget narrative.

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Monae Porter: Now, moving on to section D, which is equipment these 

expenses are defined as tangible non expendable personal property having 

a useful life of more than one year and acquisition costs of $5,000 or 

more per unit.

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Monae Porter: It is less than that amount that expense will go into the 

supplies section equipment is limited to 10% of total americorps funds 

requested and you should be sure to show the unit costs in number of 

units with purpose of equipment in your budget.

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Monae Porter: And now we're moving on to section E, which is supplies 

these costs are customizable supplies and materials, which includes 

Member service gear so americorps identity items.

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Monae Porter: Preferably clothing, with the logo is a required budget 

expense and it may be charged to the americorps share only if it includes 

the americorps logo that's important.

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Monae Porter: Applicant should make a note in the budget narrative within 

the items include the americorps logo and you may charge safety gear to 

the americorps share, regardless of whether or not it has a logo.

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Monae Porter: organizations must purchase all other Member service gear 

with non americorps funds and you should make sure that you are 

individually listing single I line I call $1,000 or more.

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Monae Porter: Now, moving into section F, which is the contractual and 

consultant services, you will include all contractual and consulting 

services, except training and evaluation consultants.

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Monae Porter: While americorps does not impose a maximum daily rate, we 

ask that you include the basis on which you would determine the expense, 

which could be a daily rate.

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Monae Porter: And again, do not include the value of the direct Community 

service performed by volunteers here or in the personnel section, unless 

it is for organizational functions such as accounting, auditing or 

equipment maintenance.

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Monae Porter: Okay, moving forward to section Section G, which is 

training, this includes expenses related to both staff and Member 

training.

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Monae Porter: So for staff training, this will enhance staff skills for 

effective project implementation and Member training, support Members as 

they carry out their service activities, and this may include life after 

a mere core training.

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Monae Porter: So be sure to include the daily rate again for consultants 

if us and, if not use insert some type of detail to justify the cost.

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Monae Porter: Okay, moving forward to section eight which is.

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Monae Porter: Evaluation This includes project evaluation clause.

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Monae Porter: If you have additional staff members consultants evaluation 

instruments, etc, this is not for assessing progress towards performance 

measures.

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Monae Porter: But is the evaluation of impact on the Community and 

assessment of the overall programs designs in system and again if you're 

using consultants, make sure that you are, including the daily rate.

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Monae Porter: Now, moving forward with Section I, which is other program 

costs and this section, this is kind of the catch all category.

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Monae Porter: For those project expenses that don't really fit neatly 

into the other categories, so in this section, you must include the 

national service criminal history checks for your Members employees and 

anyone else who receives a salary education award living allowance or 

stipend.

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Monae Porter: So, if not included, you must explain how these costs are 

cover or if someone has already had this check, you can include that.

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Monae Porter: In this section, you will also include office space 

utilities phone and Internet and similar expenses for Members and project 

staff.

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Monae Porter: and providing extensive are not included as part of the 

organizations approved indirect costs and that they are pro rated and 

appropriately allocated to this program.

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Monae Porter: You may also include Member reckons sorry, you may also 

include Member organization calls, which are allowable if appropriately 

justified, and if they exclude gifts in foods provided in the 

entertainment setting.

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Monae Porter: And finally multi State applicants may include sub grants, 

including the approx approximate number and average amount of the wars 

and show any requires sub grantee match in the grantee share column.

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Monae Porter: And so again we're going to have a brief pause if you have 

any questions you can enter them in the Q amp a panel now.

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Tracey Seabolt: Thank you so much for covering that I appreciate it 

Monet.

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Of course.

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Tracey Seabolt: I.

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Tracey Seabolt: do want to chime in I know, one of the the and I don't 

see any questions in here so i'm gonna going to ask one, or at least 

price provide some clarification I know one question that we see a lot 

is.

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Tracey Seabolt: Is applicant to asking about food in their their budget, 

and you know, one of the things we talked about before was reasonable 

necessary.

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Tracey Seabolt: And so food that is provided during the dissemination of 

information, such as like a training event and you were talking about the 

training costs.

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Tracey Seabolt: That is allowable additionally if let's say you're doing 

a day long training and you were going to put in a half an hour 45 minute 

break for food, but logistically to go off site to get food is just so 

time consuming.

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Tracey Seabolt: It would would really take away from the training itself, 

so in that case food could be allowable so in those cases applicants 

should make note of situations and justify that in the budget narrative.

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Tracey Seabolt: So we are going to move on and look at a few budget 

narrative sample entries and we're going to talk through some of the 

common clarification issues that that you as an applicant can avoid.

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Tracey Seabolt: So on this sample that you're seeing on the screen right 

now there are several errors on here and i'd like you to take a look at 

it and in the chat enter any errors that you identify, please, and while 

you're doing that.

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Tracey Seabolt: i'm going back to mary's question in the chat.

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Tracey Seabolt: Would the food be included in the training line items So 

yes, if if you're conducting like I was saying before a day long training 

and.

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Tracey Seabolt: you're going to have a program to lunch or you're going 

to have lunch, because you know the nearest restaurant is 20 minute drive 

away.

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Tracey Seabolt: you're going to bring in food for them, then yes, that 

would be part of your training section and you would just identify in 

there, the justification for that you know that you would put program to 

lunch or.

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Tracey Seabolt: You know, to to avoid the disruption of information or 

you know some some language, because he grants does have character 

limits, so we we don't want to go too crazy with the justification, but 

give us enough info.

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Tracey Seabolt: You are justifying why you're putting food in there.
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Tracey Seabolt: So I don't see any comments in the chat related to this, 

this sample that you right now there we go Thank you Patricia breakdown 

and costs related to see ncs sponsored training.

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Tracey Seabolt: Yes, exactly, so in that first line there is that 

americorps sponsored grantee training that we said was a required line 

item.

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Tracey Seabolt: But the applicant neglected to include a cost calculation 

to explain how they determined that 20 $498 so, even though this is a 

required line item we still need to know that this meets the prudent 

person standard.

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Tracey Seabolt: For example, what if this training was in Washington DC 

and the grantee was in Maryland.

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Tracey Seabolt: I can assure you, as someone who lived most of my life in 

Maryland it does not cost 20 $400 for me to get to to DC.

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Tracey Seabolt: So you know, this is where it's showing that that that

would or would not be reasonable, so we want to know what is it you're 

covering in that calculation.

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Tracey Seabolt: If you look down to the second line item you'll see that 

the applicant proposed a mileage rate higher than the federal rate and as 

Monet said, this is allowable providing that it aligns with the 

organization's policy and the applicant could avoid having to clarify 

this by.

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Tracey Seabolt: just making a budget notation saying that this follows 

the organization's travel policy and, if you look down to that last line 

you'll see an example of that kind of a justification.

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Tracey Seabolt: The third line item, you may not have been able to figure 

out yet.

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Tracey Seabolt: Because it requires probably getting out your calculator 

but basically it shows that the applicant didn't double check the 

calculations for accuracy.

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Tracey Seabolt: So what they have in that description totals $2,050 

rather than what's in the budget of the 1900 $54, and this is often a 

result of applicants going in and revising the budget and they forget to 

go back and revise the clarify calculation.

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Tracey Seabolt: So I again, I just want to draw your attention to that so 

that it's something you can be aware of.

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Tracey Seabolt: And then the last line in the section includes cost for 

Member travel and while that's absolutely allowable.

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Tracey Seabolt: And this is appropriately detailed there's a specific 

Member travel section so it's important to make sure you're entering the 

line items in the right section.

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Tracey Seabolt: So, if you look at this example at the bottom of the 

screen, it shows a correct and comprehensive entry and it's got all of 

the correct detail.

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Tracey Seabolt: Including the number of individuals traveling the number 

of travel days miles traveled mileage rate all of those details that we 

need, and there are no erroneous costs included.

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Tracey Seabolt: So this is the the good version down at the bottom, that 

we want to see in your applications we're going to also look at a sample 

from the supply section of the budget narrative.

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Tracey Seabolt: i'm taking a quick look at this I don't know what you all 

are seeing here i'll give you a second to to enter some errors in here in 

the chat.

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Tracey Seabolt: Marisa no narratives correct that computers for new staff 

we have absolutely no idea what that means is that one new staff to new 

staff.
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Tracey Seabolt: Is it one computer 10 computers, we just don't know so 

again we can't figure out if its reasonable unnecessary it's if you look 

at that office supplies line.

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Tracey Seabolt: The calculation might be correct, but it seems like it's 

only based on 10 months of cost and maybe that's All they need I don't 

know but they haven't told us that and so that's why we want to get 

additional information there.

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Tracey Seabolt: The the third one, the Member supply line, I want to draw 

your attention to, because it.

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Tracey Seabolt: it's got the number of Members it's got a cost per 

Member, but if you look at the calculation it's slightly higher than 

what's budgeted actually total $7,030 and remember, we said that part of 

the assessment was to look at calculation accuracy.

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Tracey Seabolt: We want to be able to die you some wiggle room So if you 

add a term like average or approximate.

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Tracey Seabolt: You know terms like that they give you some flexibility 

that could help you avoid having to clarify this down the road.

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Tracey Seabolt: The other thing I want to point out is that you know we 

talked about the required Member service scared that is not included in 

this in this example.

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Tracey Seabolt: So, if you look at this second version you'll see it's 

got the detail, we need for for the office supplies and the computers.

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Tracey Seabolt: And that average word added to the Member supplies and 

then on the top line we've added that required to line item for the 

Member service gear, with all of the detail that we need so again, this 

is a much better far more compliant budget narrative.

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Tracey Seabolt: All right, let's move on to section two which focuses on 

the Member cost, and specifically the Member living allowances and 

support costs.

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Tracey Seabolt: So one thing I do want to point out is if you're applying 

for a planning grant remember your your budget will not include any 

Member costs, so there won't be any section to for your application.

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Tracey Seabolt: As I mentioned before the Novo stipulates that minimum 

and maximum living allowances this year's full time living allowance 

ranges from 16,000 to 32,000 per Member.

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Tracey Seabolt: And the budget narrative must identify the number of 

members in each category and the living allowance amount that they will 

receive.

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Tracey Seabolt: When you get down to those Members support costs they'll 

follow the laws of the states where the Members are serving.

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Tracey Seabolt: fica unless exempted by the irs is 7.65% of the total 

living allowance and you must also include health care coverage for all 

full time Members now.

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Tracey Seabolt: programs main may want to offer full health care to less 

than full time members, but you cannot pay for it with these americorps 

funds unless those are less than full time members.

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Tracey Seabolt: That are serving in a full time capacity for a sustained 

period, such as a full time summer program and in that case you should 

note that you know these are our Members that are serving in a full time 

capacity.

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Tracey Seabolt: Excuse me you'll also note the number of Members 

receiving the benefit and the PR person cost in that calculation.

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Tracey Seabolt: And if you know going back again to the accounting 

department helping you with some of the history if you're calculating 

cost, based on the percentage of Members that historically have accepted 

this benefit then you'll just note that in the justification.
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Tracey Seabolt: I also want to point out if you're using Indian Health 

Services coverage to provide healthcare two full time or less than full 

time members serving in a full time capacity.

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Tracey Seabolt: You cannot include that as part of your match, however, 

because we want to make sure that you're showing us that you're you're 

offering those services to these Members.

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Tracey Seabolt: And you should enter that in your budget narrative and 

just make a notation that you're providing the benefit with ihs and enter 

zero as the cost and you would just enter it for the total amount for the 

grantee share and for the americorps share.

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Tracey Seabolt: You may include workers compensation costs if the state 

where the Members are serving requires a.

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Tracey Seabolt: And if it's not required by the state, the programs must 

obtain occupational accidental death and dismemberment cub coverage for 

Members and just know that is on you, the applicant to check to make sure 

what's required and what is not.

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Tracey Seabolt: unemployment insurance and other Member support costs 

must also include adequate calculation details and the unemployment 

insurance can only be charged to the grant if it is mandated by State 

law.

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Tracey Seabolt: So let's look at some Member support costs examples and 

again i'll ask your help here to enter in the chat any errors that you 

see here, please.

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Tracey Seabolt: Anything jump out at you.

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Tracey Seabolt: yeah um they included that fica for the Members, but the 

application instructions tell us that it must be calculated 7.65% of the 

total living allowances and they use 5%.

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Tracey Seabolt: Also, if you look here yeah Thank you Patricia for you 

getting that as well.

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Tracey Seabolt: If you look here they've added the health care they noted 

it's provided by Indian Health services they gave us the calculation for 

it.

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Tracey Seabolt: But they put the amounts in the budget and, as I said, 

you cannot charge that to the the match so we'll look at what that should 

look like or could look like.

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Tracey Seabolt: i'm also note on this one there's no workers COMP or the 

the alternative for that so again if that state requires work or COMP, 

then you need to include it otherwise occupational accidental death and 

dismemberment coverage must be included so again let's look at a at a 

correct example.

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Tracey Seabolt: And this will show you the correct fica calculation 

additionally there we've got that health care line that's got that zero 

dollar line item, and you know I often tell folks if you want to give us 

more information.

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Tracey Seabolt: As as a place where you can give more detail about some 

other line items by just putting zeros in all of the fields and you've 

got some space for some narrative so it's the same same concept there.

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Tracey Seabolt: And then they've added the workers COMP there at 2% of 

the the Member living allowance, so there we've got our bottom example is 

the correct example.

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Tracey Seabolt: we're going to move on to the administrative or indirect 

costs, and I know that Mary that was your concern about calculating those 

indirect costs.

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Tracey Seabolt: So those are your general or centralized costs they 

support the project, they don't include this specific project cost, they 

could be included in an organization to indirect costs rate agreement if 

there is one.

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Tracey Seabolt: And i'm just going to pause for a second and go back to 

mary's question 2% standard, it was just the example in this in this 

budget, so you, it would be on you to find out what the rate is for that 

line item.

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Tracey Seabolt: So i'm going to carry on with indirect costs if you 

choose to include indirect costs in your budget and it is a choice, you

are not required to include indirect costs.

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Tracey Seabolt: You should know that there are three methods for 

calculating those costs and regardless of the method, the americorps 

sherry's always limited to 5% of total americorps awards fun of.

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Tracey Seabolt: americorps award funds expended so you will budget for up 

to 5% of the total americorps award.

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Tracey Seabolt: Budget, but then when you're actually allocating them if 

you get an award and you're allocating those it would be based on what's 

expended.

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Tracey Seabolt: So we're going to start with that corporation fixed 

percentage method and you'll often hear that referenced is the 510 fixed 

option it's that's how it's referenced in the application instructions, 

but in that case.

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Tracey Seabolt: grantees can charge administrative costs without a 

federally approved indirect cost rate and without documentation to 

support the allocations.

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Tracey Seabolt: So applicants can allocate 5% of the americorps share of 

direct costs to the americorps share of administrative costs.

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Tracey Seabolt: And then 10% of all direct costs and that's the total of 

both the americorps and the grantee shares to the grid share of 

administrative costs.

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Tracey Seabolt: And you will follow the guidance in the application 

instructions to calculate the maximum allowed if you're allocating less 
than the maximum allowed, please note the percentage claimed in the 

budget narrative.

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Tracey Seabolt: As applicants have a federally approved indirect costs 

rate, they must use this method.

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Tracey Seabolt: And that approved rate agreement constitutes 

documentation of the administrative costs and i'm guessing Mary that you

have an indirect cost rate of 21.7%.

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Tracey Seabolt: And so we'll talk about that and we'll look at an example 

of that in just a minute to but, again, the americorps share is limited 

to 5% of americorps funds.

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Tracey Seabolt: And, and then the rest can go into the grantees share 

when you're using this you want to specify the cost type, that is, 

whether it's a provisional or pre determined or fixed or a final rate.

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Tracey Seabolt: And you'll supply the rate and the base on which it is 

calculated so some rates are based on total salaries some on modified 

total direct costs and so on.

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Tracey Seabolt: And then again you'll follow the guidance in the 

application instructions to calculate the maximum allowed and again if 

you're if you're allocating less than the maximum you'll note the 

percentage claimed.

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Tracey Seabolt: You must also enter the details of the approved 

negotiated indirect cost rate agreement in a grants and the application 

instructions have detail for determining that.

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Tracey Seabolt: And then the third calculation method which is available 

to organizations who do not have a federally negotiated indirect cost 

rate.

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Tracey Seabolt: And who received less than $35 million indirect federal 

funding is the de minimis rate of 10% of total direct costs.

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Tracey Seabolt: And it's important to note, if this option is elected the 

organization must use it consistently across all of the organizations 

federal awards.

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Tracey Seabolt: and guidance for calculating these costs with each of the 

methods is in the application instructions and I will just ask you to 

please pay close close attention to that guidance about the calculations, 

it will save you having to correct your calculations during the 

resolution period.

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Tracey Seabolt: So let's look at some indirect costs line items, the 

first one, we see here is showing that corporation fixed or 510 percent 

option.

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Tracey Seabolt: And, as demonstrated they're claiming the full 5% and 

you'll see that it's calculated at 5.2% of the total c&c a share of 

direct costs, and that is, according to the application instructions so 

you'll follow that and then.

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Tracey Seabolt: they're claiming less than the 10% of the grantee share 

that's fine they can do that.

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Tracey Seabolt: But again, as I mentioned before, whenever you're 

claiming less than the maximum allowed just make a notation in there that 

way, we know you didn't make a math there you intentionally are are 

charging less or budgeting less.

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Tracey Seabolt: The second example that we have here is an example of 

it's an applicant with a federally approved indirect cost rate.

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Tracey Seabolt: And, as shown in the instructions, they provided the cost 

type the basis on which it's calculated the approved rate, the rate 

claimed and a detailed cost calculation.

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Tracey Seabolt: And you'll see here they again they claim to the full 5% 

of the americorps share using the calculation in the instructions and 

then the remaining amount is included in the grantee share.

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Tracey Seabolt: And as a reminder, if you have a negotiated rate you've 

got to put that in a grants and the guidance for that is in the 

application instructions so Mary going back to your.

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Tracey Seabolt: question about the 21.7 so you take your 5% again you 

calculate your 21% based on whatever that rate is and the base and then 

you take your 5% of the cnc F sharp direct costs.

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Tracey Seabolt: deduct that from the maximum allowed for you, and then 

the remaining amount is the Max that you can enter into the grid T share.

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Tracey Seabolt: Alright, Monday, do we have any new questions that have 

come up in the Q amp a panel.

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Monae Porter: I don't see any questions, right now, but.

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Monae Porter: I have a question, and that is what what channel 

organization do if they're federally negotiated indirect cost rate 

expired and they haven't received approval yet for a new rate.

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Tracey Seabolt: that's an excellent question and I think Mary will 

probably agree with you that it's an excellent question because I see 

that she put it in the chat.

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Tracey Seabolt: And so it's important to remember your budgeted rate must 

match the night crud details in he grants.

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Tracey Seabolt: And so you want to note that the new approval is pending.

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Tracey Seabolt: And you want to provide an expected approval date in your 

budget narrative so let's say you know let's look at this example here in 

in example be with this provisional rate.

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Tracey Seabolt: If if you were looking at where you enter it in he 

grants, it would actually tell you the date that it expired let's say 

maybe it's June 30 2021 so we know today that rate is expired.

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Tracey Seabolt: But you've been working with your cognizant agency to get 

a new rate and you're expecting it any day but you've got to submit this 

budget, so you could put in the budget narrative and I would suggest 

right there in that calculation line.

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Tracey Seabolt: You know that that current rate expired 630 2021 new rate 

pending do we in by that say July 31 2021 you know, give us give us, 

whatever information, you can give us.

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Tracey Seabolt: If the rate is not approved by the time of the award we 

may request that you go ahead and revise the budget, using the current 

are using the fixed percentage that 510 percentage.

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Tracey Seabolt: In rare circumstances, we will approve the award with a 

special condition that you would have to amended upon receipt of your new 

rate.

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Tracey Seabolt: But for the most part, I would say, at least, right now, 

while this is pending assuming that your rate is pending and that you're 

waiting to get this back any any day.

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Tracey Seabolt: Go ahead and give us that detail, and you know if, on the 

flip side, this is a rate and you're in negotiation and you're really not 

expecting to get it back in the next three months, then submit it with 

the the 510 fixed.

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Tracey Seabolt: All right, I am going to keep us moving because we're 

getting close to time and we've got a little bit more content to get 

through here with you all.

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Tracey Seabolt: So this lacks last section of the budget narrative is the 

source of fun section.

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Tracey Seabolt: Here you do not list specific line item cost, but rather 

the source of those resources that are covering your line item expenses.
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Tracey Seabolt: So, if you look in budget, Section three there's a tab 

there and you'll see a link to enter the source of matching funds and 

you'll see that here on the screen.

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Tracey Seabolt: Once you click that link a new screen appears and that's 

where you note the source, the amount of the match the classification, 

that is, whether it's cash or in kind.

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Tracey Seabolt: And the type of match whether its private state or local 

federal so just you to enter all of this information I caution you on 

those drop down menus to be very careful with them they're very sensitive 

so sometimes you can put the wrong information in there inadvertently.

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Tracey Seabolt: When it's complete the source of fun section might 

include content that's similar to this example we're getting ready to 

post.

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Tracey Seabolt: And once it comes up here, you will see that there we go.

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Tracey Seabolt: That it only includes the source of match, not those line 

items that are covered covered by the matching resources and it gives us 

all the detail, it tells us if it's secured or propose it tells us 

whether it's cash or in kind and and so on.

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Tracey Seabolt: So you know just pay very close attention again to the 

drop down menus to all of the required information.

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Tracey Seabolt: And also remember, and we said this before if it cost us 

on allowable as part of the americorps share it's also an allowable as 

part of the grant T share or your match, and if you're not sure.

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Tracey Seabolt: Whether it's allowable or not check the uniform guidance 

and again, as I mentioned, we have that sample budget narrative that we 

use for all of these examples we'll post that to the funding page, you 

can use that as a resource also when you're developing your budget 

narrative.

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Tracey Seabolt: um, so let us move on Monet do you wanna give us some 

budgeting tips here.

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Monae Porter: Yes, I can definitely do that.

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Tracey Seabolt: Great thanks.

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Monae Porter: Before we close, I want to offer you guys a.

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Monae Porter: few pointers, beginning with the guidance to check and 

double check your work to make sure you're eliminating erroneous 

information.

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Monae Porter: As Tracy had previously noted, I want to stress the 

benefits of involving your team, and someone outside of your team and the 

budget development and the route in the review process.

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Monae Porter: I recommend using the tips that you see on this visual and 

the budget budget checklist that is found on attachment F of the 

application instructions to make certain that you submit an accurate 

budget narrative that meets the American tours requirement.

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Monae Porter: highlights of the budget checklist include one making sure 

it meets America has caused guidelines.

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Monae Porter: Other important things to know is, is your full time living 

allowance within the minimum and maximum levels, which is between 16 and 

32,000.

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Monae Porter: And it's important to note that the cost of the Ms y is 

less than $18,000 for cost reimbursement applications.

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Monae Porter: And while he grants will calculate this for you, you can 

get a head start by determining the cost of the Ms why by dividing the 

total amount of America or funds that you're requesting by the total 

total number of.
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Monae Porter: Ms was requested so, for example, if you have an 

application that is $100,000 in America wars funds, and you have 10 Ms 

wise, then the cost per Ms Why is $10,000.

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Monae Porter: And you should know that the cost per emma's, why does not 

include childcare or the cost of the seagull education award that a 

Member could earn.

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Monae Porter: If you are existing grantee American express that your cost 

per Ms why will be lower than previous years, you also want to make sure 

that your budget includes the minimum required match and make sure that 

the source of your matching funds are detailed and aligned with your 

total budget.

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Monae Porter: You want to also check that the budget includes all 

required costs, such as the americorps Member gear Member fica.

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Monae Porter: FT Member healthcare, along with the cost that americorps 

strongly recommends that applicants have such as.

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Monae Porter: stuff for America course Technical Assistant events and new 

staff attendees at americorps symposium pre con effects.

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Monae Porter: As much as possible, keeping in mind with the grunts 

character limits the budget narratives to provide details, including the 

purpose and accurate calculation and you want to make sure that these are 

in.

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Monae Porter: Whole dollars and make sure that we are excluding on 

allowable costs, I remember, I recommend that applicants use the zero 

dollar line items to enter additional clarification needed.

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Monae Porter: And also again make sure that someone is checking the 

capital calculations before you submit your application.

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Monae Porter: And finally, and most importantly sure sure that you're 

aligned that you align your budget narrative to the program goals.

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Monae Porter: And the application narrative including miscellaneous 

contingency or other undefined budget amounts that could adversely impact 

your application status, which we do not want.

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Monae Porter: So, moving forward.

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Monae Porter: You want to make sure, in addition, before submitting your 

application um you want to make sure that you have an active registration 

with the system for award management, also known as Sam.

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Monae Porter: And if you are applying for the first time, it is strongly 

recommended that you apply early because it can take a while to activate 

your registration.

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Monae Porter: And americorps also recommends that if it is your first 

time or you are renewing your registration, you will allow for three 

weeks prior to the application deadline, just in case any.

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Monae Porter: there's any issues that could occur that gives us time to 

figure that out, it is important to note that Sam is not something this 

account is not something that you should have to pay for.

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Monae Porter: If you are a new or Rican competing apply it applicant 

you're submitting i'm sorry if you are a new or re competing applicant 

you submitting your operational and.

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Monae Porter: Financial minute survey as a struct on the funding page and 

you also should make sure you've submitted your most recent single audit 

to the Federal Audit clearinghouse and a form of your 992 the guide star.

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Monae Porter: And you have to make sure that you have entered your 

current federally negotiated indirect costs details, if you have one any 

grunts.

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Monae Porter: And details for all of these actions, because I know that I 

listed a lot of things they are are found on the funding page 

americorps.gov.

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Monae Porter: Finally, americorps is aware that on some occasion there 

are some challenges with the current system.

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Monae Porter: He grants automatically performs a limited client on 

compliance checks to validate your budget and you might get a warning or 

error message.

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Monae Porter: Some of these messages may prevent you from submitting your 

application so you should be aware of which one you're receiving and how 

to proceed.

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Monae Porter: So, for example, if you receive a warning message you can 

move forward, but the application or budget might not be compliant with 

americorps guidelines.

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Monae Porter: However, if you receive an error message you will not be 

able to move forward until you correct the error and you must resolve all 

of the areas before you can submit your application.

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Monae Porter: So if you experience a challenge, other than what I listed 

the warning or the error message you should contact the americorps 

hotline right away, and the number is listed on the slide.

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Monae Porter: And it's Also, why is that if you're experiencing errors 

you'll get a service ticket and you should email that to us at a mayor 

corps grant@cnn.gov just so we have a documentation of the problem and so 

that we can work through it together.

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Monae Porter: And finally, I want to draw your attention back to these 

bullets that Tracy had shared earlier, I encourage you to keep this 

checklist nearby as you develop your budget and frankly consulted on.

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Monae Porter: As a sort of a quality assurance tech checklist many 

budgets require extensive review just because some of these things 

listed.
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Monae Porter: Are not checked before the budget is submitted, so you will 

save yourself a lot of time and efforts if, before you submit your budget 

to America or just check this on bliss really quick just to make sure you 

have everything on it.

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Monae Porter: So now i'm going to pause to see if we have any more final 

question, and if you have a question, you can enter it in the Q amp a 

panel now.

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Tracey Seabolt: And Monday, there is nothing in q&a or in the chat.

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Tracey Seabolt: So Mary Patricia either, if you have any questions this 

is your chance.

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Tracey Seabolt: Okay looks like we're we're good.

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Monae Porter: All right.

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Tracey Seabolt: let's see.

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Monae Porter: So we have reached the end of our time together, I 

appreciate you guys for responding to this to this final poll, you should 

see it above to let us know how helpful this session was for you.

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Monae Porter: And if there are no other questions i'll Thank you again 

for your time and for your interest in America wars and I wish you the 

best in the competition and this concludes today's webinars.

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Monae Porter: And you may now disconnect.