COURT OF APPEALS OF VIRGINIA 

Present: Judges Kelsey, McClanahan and Haley 

Argued by teleconference 

COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA 

 MEMORANDUM OPINION* BY 

v. Record No. 2271-09-1 JUDGE D. ARTHUR KELSEY 

APRIL 13, 2010 

JERMAINE S. EPPS 

FROM THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE CITY OF PORTSMOUTH 

Kenneth R. Melvin, Judge 

Erin M. Kulpa, Assistant Attorney General (Kenneth T. 

Cuccinelli, II, Attorney General, on briefs), for appellant. 

Sonya Weaver Roots (Weaver Law Practice, PLLC, on 

brief), for appellee. 

 In this criminal case, the Commonwealth appeals a pretrial order granting a motion to 

suppress a confession given by Jermaine S. Epps to investigators. Based on the argument 

presented by Epps at trial and on appeal, we find no legal basis for the suppression order. We 

thus reverse the order and remand the case for trial. 

I. 

Portsmouth police officers arrested Epps on charges of armed burglary of a bank, two 

counts of robbery, two counts of use of a firearm during the commission of a robbery, and 

wearing a mask in public. Two detectives, M.A. Luck and J. Branch, interviewed Epps at the 

police station.1

 They began the interview by advising Epps of his rights under Miranda v. 

Arizona, 384 U.S. 436 (1966), and confirming he understood them. Epps did not invoke any of 

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 Pursuant to Code § 17.1-413, this opinion is not designated for publication. 

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 The interview was filmed. Portions were played for the trial court and transcribed by 

the court reporter. Neither party introduced into evidence, however, a copy of the video or a 

prepared verbatim transcript. 
his rights and instead spoke freely with the detectives for about half an hour.2

 At this point, 

Epps asked if he could “get a bond” and be released on pretrial bail. The detectives said they had

“no control over that.” That prompted a discussion about counsel, transcribed in the 

suppression-hearing transcript as follows: 

 

Defendant: Can I have my lawyer present?

Detective Luck: For your bond hearing? 

Defendant: No, for now.

[Playback of the recording was stopped.] 

The Court: Stop. What did he say? 

Prosecutor: He said, “can I have my lawyer present?” 

And then Detective Luck said, “for the bond hearing?” 

And he said, Mr. Epps, said, “no, for now.” 

The Court: Do you agree with that, Ms. Weaver? 

Defense Counsel: Yes, sir. 

The Court: Go on. 

Defense Counsel: That’s where we are saying he invoked 

 his right to counsel.

App. 29-30 (emphasis added). Throughout the suppression hearing, Epps’s counsel focused on 

the “for now” aspect of this dialogue. She argued to the trial court: 

[Epps] asked in the course of their talking to him about an 

attorney, and they asked for I guess you would say whether he 

wanted one at that moment or, you know, for bond hearing or 

something, and he says “for now” which meant at that particular 

time and they did not cease speaking with him at that time. That’s 

our basis for the motion to suppress . . . . 

App. at 12 (emphasis added). After the presentation of evidence, Epps’s counsel again argued 

the “for now” statement was the basis for suppressing Epps’s previously tendered confession: 

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 Epps did not challenge, either in the trial court or on appeal, the efficacy of the Miranda

warnings or his voluntary waiver of his rights during this portion of the interview. 

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What we have in this case, he says, “can I have my lawyer 

present.” They ask for clarification of when he wants his lawyer. 

He says “for now.” They said, bond hearing? He says “no, for 

now.” So he has told them he did not want the bond hearing, he 

wanted his lawyer then. They did not cease interviewing him. 

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I think based on what you heard in the statement and what the 

officer said, they probably were surprised at that point that he 

asked the question can I have a lawyer, and then they asked 

basically when do you want one. When they said for the bond 

hearing, he says, “no, for now.” So at that point it’s our 

contention that he unequivocally requested his attorney at that 

point. 

App. at 53-54 (emphasis added). 

The trial court agreed with counsel’s argument and granted Epps’s motion to suppress. 

The Commonwealth filed an interlocutory appeal under Code § 19.2-398(A)(2) seeking review 

of the trial court’s suppression order. The Commonwealth argues Epps did not unequivocally 

invoke his right to counsel by asking, “Can I have my lawyer present?” and then clarifying he 

meant “for now” instead of later at his bond hearing. See Appellant’s Br. at 6, 9. In response, 

Epps’s appellate brief repeats the same argument made in the trial court: “In this case, the 

defendant clearly invoked his right to counsel. The defendant initially asked the detectives ‘Can 

I have my lawyer present?’ and the detectives asked him ‘For your bond hearing?’ and the 

defendant responded ‘No. For now.’” Appellee’s Br. at 4. 

 During oral argument on appeal, the Court asked Epps’s counsel if she could further 

clarify the position she took in the trial court on the scope of her motion to suppress. She replied 

Epps’s “whole argument” in the trial court focused only on the question, “Can I have my lawyer 

present?” and clarification, “No. For now.” Oral Argument Audio at 16:00 (Mar. 23, 2010). 

Counsel conceded she never argued in the trial court that any other statements by Epps 

constituted an unambiguous and unequivocal request for counsel. Id. at 17:10 to 18:02. Counsel 

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also conceded she similarly limited the appellate brief to the narrow argument made in the trial 

court. Id. at 19:46.3

II. 

Miranda requires police officers to advise suspects in custody of their right to counsel. 

Edwards v. Arizona, 451 U.S. 477 (1981), requires officers to suspend their questioning when a 

suspect requests the assistance of counsel. Police officers must cease the interrogation, however, 

“only [i]f the individual states that he wants an attorney.” Moran v. Burbine, 475 U.S. 412, 433 

n.4 (1986) (quoting Michigan v. Mosley, 423 U.S. 96, 104 n.10 (1975), in turn quoting Miranda, 

384 U.S. at 474) (emphasis and alteration in original); see also Davis v. United States, 512 U.S. 

452, 459 (1994). A suspect asking if he could have an attorney, should have an attorney, might 

have an attorney, or the like all involve questions about counsel — not requests for counsel. 

Questions about counsel can be answered by police officers; requests for counsel must simply be 

obeyed. 

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 Just after the “No. For now.” remark, the detective asked Epps directly: “Do you want 

your lawyer here?” Epps equivocated: “See, I ain’t want to jump the gun but I don’t want to say 

nothing unless my lawyer here and you-all be like, well, that’s all right, you ain’t got to say 

nothing anyway. I don’t want her [Epps’s girlfriend] in no trouble.” App. 31, 43. Detective 

Branch then restated the Miranda warnings: “You can have your lawyer here, of course. It’s 

your right. Or you can elect to talk and just tell us what happened. That’s your choice.” App. 

31-32, 44. Epps replied: “But if I say I want my lawyer here, you-all going to think I am trying 

to be a smart ass and all that.” App. 32, 44 (emphasis added). After the detectives clarified that 

what they thought was irrelevant, Epps volunteered: “Bank robbery. What you-all want to 

know?” App. 32. 

At oral argument on appeal, the Court raised sua sponte whether these additional 

statements by Epps could be construed as an unambiguous request for counsel and asked 

whether, even if so, Epps later reinitiated a dialogue with the detectives. After conceding she 

had never raised either point in the proceedings, counsel replied, “if the Court be willing to 

entertain that, yes I would include that as well.” Oral Argument Audio at 20:00. The 

Commonwealth objected and called upon us to limit our analysis to the issues raised below and 

addressed in the appellate briefs. Given our reluctance to assume “the role of advocate,” 

Johnson v. Commonwealth, 45 Va. App. 113, 116, 609 S.E.2d 58, 59 (2005), we will address the 

issues in the manner framed by the parties. 

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To be effective, “the invocation of the right to counsel must be clear, unambiguous, and 

unequivocal.” Zektaw v. Commonwealth, 278 Va. 127, 136, 677 S.E.2d 49, 53 (2009) (citation 

omitted). “If the suspect’s statement is not an unambiguous or unequivocal request for counsel, 

the officers have no obligation to stop questioning him.” Davis, 512 U.S. at 461-62. It is not 

enough for a suspect to make “a statement that might be a request for an attorney” because police 

officers “may continue questioning until and unless the suspect clearly requests an attorney.” Id.

at 461 (first emphasis in original). An “ambiguous or equivocal reference to an attorney” 

requires police officers to speculate about the suspect’s true intentions “with the threat of 

suppression if they guess wrong.” Id. at 460-61. 

Among the questions and statements that do not constitute clear, unambiguous, and 

unequivocal requests for counsel are: 

 “Can I speak to my lawyer? I can’t even talk to [a] lawyer before I 

make any kinds of comments or anything?” Commonwealth v. 

Redmond, 264 Va. 321, 330, 568 S.E.2d 695, 700 (2002). 

 “Can I have someone else present too, I mean just for my safety, like 

a lawyer like y’all just said?” Commonwealth v. Hilliard, 270 Va. 42, 

51, 613 S.E.2d 579, 585 (2005). 

 “I’ll be honest with you, I’m scared to say anything without talking to 

a lawyer.” Midkiff v. Commonwealth, 250 Va. 262, 265, 267, 462 

S.E.2d 112, 114, 115 (1995). 

 “Maybe I should talk to a lawyer.” Davis, 512 U.S. at 455. 

 “Do you think I need an attorney here?” Mueller v. Commonwealth, 

244 Va. 386, 396, 422 S.E.2d 380, 387 (1992). 

 “You did say I could have an attorney if I wanted one?” Eaton v. 

Commonwealth, 240 Va. 236, 250, 252, 397 S.E.2d 385, 393, 395 

(1990). 

 “Didn’t you say I have the right to an attorney?” Poyner v. 

Commonwealth, 229 Va. 401, 410, 329 S.E.2d 815, 823 (1985). 

 A statement by a suspect that “he felt like he might want to talk to a 

lawyer.” Bunch v. Commonwealth, 225 Va. 423, 430, 304 S.E.2d 

271, 275 (1983). 

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 “I think I need a lawyer.” Burket v. Angelone, 208 F.3d 172, 198 (4th 

Cir. 2000) (aff’g on habeas review Burket v. Commonwealth, 248 Va. 

596, 450 S.E.2d 127 (1994)). 

In this case, Epps argues he unambiguously and unequivocally requested counsel by 

asking, “Can I have my lawyer present?” and then clarifying he meant “for now” instead of later 

at his bond hearing. The trial court agreed with this argument; we do not. Epps simply asked a 

question. His “for now” remark merely qualified the timing of his question, as in “Can I have 

my lawyer present for now?” On its face, this is not a request, demand, or assertion. See, e.g., 

Gutierrez v. State, 150 S.W.3d 827, 832 (Tex. App. 2004) (“Can I have [my lawyer] present 

now?”). It is, instead, a question virtually indistinguishable from similar questions found 

inadequate under settled precedents.4

 

Epps acknowledges these precedents but argues they have no persuasive force here 

because Detective Branch’s testimony at the suppression hearing could be interpreted to suggest 

he subjectively understood the “for now” qualification to be an express request for counsel. 

Though we are skeptical of this interpretation of Detective Branch’s testimony5 — particularly 

given Detective Luck’s contrary view6 — the constitutional “test for determining whether the 

accused invoked the right to counsel is an objective one.” Medley v. Commonwealth, 44 

Va. App. 19, 31, 602 S.E.2d 411, 417 (2004) (en banc) (quoting McDaniel v. Commonwealth, 

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 Because Epps’s counsel did not do so at trial, nor does she on appeal, we likewise do 

not analyze whether Epps’s other statements merely expressed his “reservation[s] about the 

wisdom of continuing the interrogation without consulting a lawyer,” Midkiff, 250 Va. at 267, 

462 S.E.2d at 115, or could be construed to be an unambiguous, unequivocal request for counsel. 

For the same reason, we do not address whether Epps reinitiated a dialogue with the detectives 

prior to making his incriminating remarks. See supra at 4 n.3. 

5 See App. 41 (“No. I asked him. I told him again. He never answered.”). 

6 See App. 45 (“I was still unclear. That’s why we gave him the opportunity and 

explained to him it was his right and kept asking him if he wanted his lawyer.”); id. (“Q. And 

did he ever answer whether he wanted the attorney or not to any of your questions? A. No.”). 

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30 Va. App. 602, 605, 518 S.E.2d 851, 853 (1999)). Absent a dispute about what was said and 

how, we apply “de novo review of the legal issue whether [a suspect’s] words, taken in context, 

were sufficient to invoke his right to counsel.” Zektaw, 278 Va. at 135, 677 S.E.2d at 53 

(quoting Hilliard, 270 Va. at 50, 613 S.E.2d at 584). 

III. 

Because the trial court erred by granting Epps’s motion to suppress, we reverse the 

suppression order and remand for trial. 

 Reversed and remanded.