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H.R. 17, H. RES. 62, H.R. 1175, AND H. CON.

RES. 75

MARKUP

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON

INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED SIXTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

THURSDAY, JUNE 10, 1999

Serial No. 106–88

Printed for the use of the Committee on International Relations

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COMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS

BENJAMIN A. GILMAN, New York, Chairman

WILLIAM F. GOODLING, Pennsylvania

JAMES A. LEACH, Iowa

HENRY J. HYDE, Illinois

DOUG BEREUTER, Nebraska

CHRISTOPHER H. SMITH, New Jersey

DAN BURTON, Indiana

ELTON GALLEGLY, California

ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN, Florida

CASS BALLENGER, North Carolina

DANA ROHRABACHER, California

DONALD A. MANZULLO, Illinois

EDWARD R. ROYCE, California

PETER T. KING, New York

STEVE CHABOT, Ohio

MARSHALL ‘‘MARK’’ SANFORD, South

Carolina

MATT SALMON, Arizona

AMO HOUGHTON, New York

TOM CAMPBELL, California

JOHN M. MCHUGH, New York

KEVIN BRADY, Texas

RICHARD BURR, North Carolina

PAUL E. GILLMOR, Ohio

GEORGE RADANOVICH, California

JOHN COOKSEY, Louisiana

THOMAS G. TANCREDO, Colorado

SAM GEJDENSON, Connecticut

TOM LANTOS, California

HOWARD L. BERMAN, California

GARY L. ACKERMAN, New York

ENI F.H. FALEOMAVAEGA, American

Samoa

MATTHEW G. MARTINEZ, California

DONALD M. PAYNE, New Jersey

ROBERT MENENDEZ, New Jersey

SHERROD BROWN, Ohio

CYNTHIA A. MCKINNEY, Georgia

ALCEE L. HASTINGS, Florida

PAT DANNER, Missouri

EARL F. HILLIARD, Alabama

BRAD SHERMAN, California

ROBERT WEXLER, Florida

STEVEN R. ROTHMAN, New Jersey

JIM DAVIS, Florida

EARL POMEROY, North Dakota

WILLIAM D. DELAHUNT, Massachusetts

GREGORY W. MEEKS, New York

BARBARA LEE, California

JOSEPH CROWLEY, New York

JOSEPH M. HOEFFEL, Pennsylvania

RICHARD J. GARON, Chief of Staff

KATHLEEN BERTELSEN MOAZED, Democratic Chief of Staff

HILLEL WEINBERG, Senior Professional Staff Member and Counsel

MARILYN C. OWEN, Staff Associate

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Markup of H.R. 17, a bill to amend the Agricultural Trade Act of 1978

to require the President to report to Congress on any selective embargo

on agricultural commodities, to provide a termination date for the embargo,

to provide greater assurances for contract sanctity, and for other purposes .. 1

Markup of H. Res. 62, a resolution expressing concern over the escalating

violence, the gross violations of human rights, and the ongoing attempts

to overthrow a democratically elected government in Sierra Leone ................ 4

Markup of H.R. 1175, a bill to locate and secure the return of Zachary

Baumel, an American citizen, and other Israeli soldiers missing in action .... 9

Markup of H. Con Res. 75, a concurrent resolution condemning the National

Islamic Front (NIF) government for its genocidal war in southern Sudan,

support for terrorism, and continued human rights violations, and for other

purposes ................................................................................................................ 12

APPENDIX

Prepared statements:

The Honorable Sam Gejdenson, a Representative in Congress from Connecticut, statement on H.R. 17 ........................................................................... 24

The Honorable Sam Gejdenson, statement on H. Con. Res. 75 ........................... 25

Bills and Amendments:

H.R. 17 ...................................................................................................................... 27

H. Res. 62 ................................................................................................................. 31

Committee Print (as amended by the Subcommittee on Africa .................... 36

Amendment to H. Res. 62 offered by Mr. Gejdenson .................................... 41

Amendment to H. Res. 62 offered by Mr. Payne, a Representative in

Congress from New Jersey, on behalf of Mr. Hastings a Representative

in Congress from Florida .............................................................................. 42

Amendment to H. Res. 62 offered by Mr. Gejdenson, to replace the

first and second degree amendments previously offered by Mr. Gejdenson and Mr. Payne (for Mr. Hastings) ........................................................ 44

1175 ........................................................................................................................... 45

Amendment to H.R. 75 offered by Mr. Lantos, a Representative in Congress from Califorina .................................................................................... 49

H. Con. Res. 75 ........................................................................................................ 52

Committee Print (as amended by the Subcommittee on Africa ....................

Amendment to H. Res. 75 offered by Mr. Tancredo, a Representative

in Congress from Colorado ........................................................................... 70

Amendment to H. Con. Res. 75 offered by Mr. Payne ................................... 71

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H.R. 17, A BILL TO AMEND THE AGRICULTURAL TRADE ACT OF 1978 TO REQUIRE

THE PRESIDENT TO REPORT TO CONGRESS

ON ANY SELECTIVE EMBARGO ON AGRICULTURAL COMMODITIES, TO PROVIDE A TERMINATION DATE FOR THE EMBARGO, TO

PROVIDE GREATER ASSURANCES FOR CONTRACT SANCTITY, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES

House of Representatives,

COMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS,

WASHINGTON, D.C.

The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10 a.m. in room 2172,

Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Benjamin A. Gilman (chairman of the Committee) presiding.

Chairman GILMAN. The Committee will come to order.

The Committee meets in open session today with regard to our

markup session on H.R. 17, H.R. 1175, H. Res. 62 and H. Con. Res.

75.

We will first consider H.R. 17, relating to agricultural embargoes.

The Chair lays the bill before the Committee. The clerk will report the title of the bill.

Ms. BLOOMER. ‘‘H.R. 17, a bill to amend the Agricultural Trade

Act of 1978 to require the President to report to Congress on any

selective embargo on agricultural commodities, to provide a termination date for the embargo, to provide greater assurances for contract sanctity, and for other purposes.’’

Chairman GILMAN. Without objection, the first reading of the bill

is dispensed with.

The clerk will read the bill for amendment.

Ms. BLOOMER. ‘‘Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America and Congress assembled, section 1, Short Title.’’

Chairman GILMAN. Without objection, the bill is considered as

having been read is open to amendment at any point.

I now recognize myself briefly.

This bill was introduced by Mr. Ewing of Illinois and is identical

to a bill that was passed late last year which was not referred to

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diction is the Committee on Agriculture. It was reported out of that

Committee by unanimous vote.

The bill provides that if the President provides for an economic

embargo that selectively emphasizes agriculture, that the Congress

would have the right to interpose a joint resolution providing for

its termination.

I don’t believe that this bill significantly changes the balance of

equities involved in the area of economic embargoes to any significant degree. However, this bill is important to the gentleman from

Illinois, Mr. Ewing, as a symbol of congressional concern for American farmers and of the thought that they ought not to be singled

out as bearing the burden of economic pressures against countries

with which the United States is having difficulties.

Mr. Lantos.

Mr. LANTOS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I am supporting this legislation and ask permission to include in

the record Mr. Gejdenson’s statement on this issue.

Chairman GILMAN. Mr. Bereuter.

Mr. BEREUTER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

This is important legislation to this Member and many others,

and I strongly support it and, in fact, am an original cosponsor of

H.R. 17. This bill is identical to H.R. 4647, which passed the House

by voice vote under suspension of the rules in the final days of the

previous 105th Congress.

I want to thank Chairman Gilman, International Economic Policy and Trade Subcommittee Chairwoman Ros-Lehtinen and the

Democratic Ranking Member and others for moving this legislation, which is very important to those of us representing agriculture districts and states, and to thank them for doing it in a

timely fashion.

H.R. 17 takes the first steps toward rationalizing our sanctions

policy by requiring the President to report to Congress on any selective embargo and agriculture commodities. The bill provides a

termination date for any embargo and requires Congress to approve the embargo for it to extend beyond 100 days. It also provides greater assurance for contract sanctity.

Unilateral embargoes of U.S. food exports cannot effect any real

changes on the targeted country in most cases. All U.S. farmers

have a right to be angry that they are being used by both executive

and legislative branches over the years, not just now, to carry out

symbolic acts so foreign policymakers can appear to be doing something about our toughest foreign policy problems.

I remember the short supply embargo, for example, on soybeans

under President Ford. It had a devastating impact, and it continues yet today on the competition it engendered in Brazil.

When Congress and the President point the unilateral sanction

gun at a foreign country, the gun most often gets pointed at the

American farmer on the tractor simply trying to provide for his

family. Right now we have as bad an agriculture condition as I

have seen since 1984, with low commodity prices across the board,

including all livestock sectors.

Let me give you an example. Last year, the U.S. nearly lost a

300,000 metric ton wheat sale to Pakistan because of our unilateral

nonproliferation sanctions on that country. Sensing our mistake,

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those of us concerned in Congress rushed to reverse that sanction

just hours before the bids for the wheat sale were made. Had we

not acted, I am sure the Australians, Canadians or French wheat

farmers would have gladly become Pakistan’s new primary supplier

of wheat.

H.R. 17 does not alter any current sanctions because it would

only affect embargoes that apply selectively to agricultural products, like the one I mentioned by President Ford or the one for

President Carter’s ill-fated and totally ineffective grain embargo on

the Soviet Union in 1980.

H.R. 17 does nothing to restrict the President’s ability to impose

cross-sector embargoes or embargoes that apply to other U.S. export goods, including agriculture. H.R. 17 does not apply to multilateral embargoes.

The Selective Agriculture Embargoes Act is a measured and responsible bill that protects the American farmer and the American

agriculture sector from unnecessary harm, and I do urge its support and passage. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Bereuter.

Mr. Pomeroy.

Mr. POMEROY. Mr. Chairman, food should not be used as a weapon, and farmers should not be used as fodder in international disputes. This legislation, measured, limited but important, addresses

selective agriculture embargoes. I was pleased to cosponsor—

pleased to vote for its passage last October, and it did pass in a

voice vote in the House. I am also pleased that this Committee this

year has jurisdiction, concurrent with the Agriculture Committee,

a Committee on which I also serve.

I believe today’s action of this Committee in approving this bill

reflects a broad consensus that using food as a tool of international

policy through embargoes is a failed policy, one that served us

badly in the past, and should not be engaged in in the future.

This legislation makes certain Congress is involved in the event

should there be a selective agriculture embargo imposed and, I

think equally importantly, places a 1-year timetable wherein it

would need to be revisited by the Administration and Congress.

I think sometimes some of our embargoes just languish and need

to be sunsetted and revisited in terms of whether they are serving

any particular effect, other than harm, to our farmers through diminishing our international export market opportunities, producing

lower commodity prices back home.

I would hope we could pass this out on a quick, unanimous vote

and appreciate the Chairman’s support of this bill.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Pomeroy.

Any other Members seeking recognition?

If there are no other Members seeking recognition, the previous

question is ordered. I recognize the gentleman from Nebraska, Mr.

Bereuter.

Mr. BEREUTER. Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee report

the bill to the House with a recommendation that it be passed.

Chairman GILMAN. The question is now on the motion of the gentleman from Nebraska.

Those in favor of the motion, signify by saying aye.

Those opposed, indicate by saying no.

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The ayes have it. The motion is agreed to.

Without objection, the Chair or his designee is authorized to

make motions under Rule 22 with respect to a conference on this

bill or a counterpart from the Senate.

Chairman GILMAN. We will now consider H. Res. 62 relating to

Sierra Leone.

The Chair lays the resolution before the Committee.

H. RES. 62, A RESOLUTION EXPRESSING CONCERN OVER THE

ESCALATING VIOLENCE, THE GROSS VIOLATIONS OF

HUMAN RIGHTS, AND THE ONGOING ATTEMPTS TO OVERTHROW A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT IN SIERRA LEONE

Ms. BLOOMER. ‘‘H. Res. 62, a resolution expressing concern over

the escalating violence, the gross violations of human rights, and

the ongoing attempts to overthrow a democratically elected government in Sierra Leone.’’

Chairman GILMAN. This resolution was considered by the Subcommittee on Africa and reported with an amendment.

Without objection, the language recommended by the Subcommittee on Africa, which is before the Members, will be considered as original text for the purpose of amendment, and without

objection, the clerk will read the preamble and operative language

of the Subcommittee recommendation.

So ordered.

Ms. BLOOMER. Whereas the Armed Forces Revolutionary Council

military junta, which on May 27——

Chairman GILMAN. Without objection, the Subcommittee recommended amendment is considered as having been read and is

now open to amendment at any point.

I will now recognize the gentleman from California, our distinguished Chairman of the African Subcommittee, Mr. Royce, to introduce the resolution and the amendment.

Mr. ROYCE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

This resolution addresses the tragic situation in Sierra Leone,

where the democratically elected government of President Kabbah

has been under siege by rebel forces. The RUF rebels, as the Africa

Subcommittee has heard, have used despicable tactics of political

terror against civilians, which does throw into serious question

these forces’ commitment to a peaceful and democratic Sierra

Leone. We can only hope that the current cease-fire and ongoing

political negotiations between the government and the RUF will

produce a lasting political settlement.

Today, Sierra Leone is suffering a humanitarian crisis, with hundreds of thousands of Sierra Leoneans having to flee their country.

As this resolution notes, Sierra Leoneans are suffering from a lack

of food and a lack of medicine.

This resolution calls for an end to hostilities, which have the potential of destabilizing West Africa. It condemns the gross human

rights violations that have shocked the world. There should be no

doubt, it is the rebels that have been by far the greatest perpetrators of human rights violations in Sierra Leone. It calls on specific

West African countries to cease providing military aid to rebel

forces, thus aiding and abetting their carnage; and it calls on the

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U.S. to provide additional support for the Economic Community of

West African States Military Observation Group (ECOMOG) forces

that are providing a measure of stability in Sierra Leone.

Clearly, the U.S. needs to do more for ECOMOG. In the Africa

Subcommittee markup, Mr. Payne offered language calling for the

appointment of a special envoy to Sierra Leone, which was adopted.

The situation in Sierra Leone greatly concerns many Members of

Congress. Over the last year, the Africa Subcommittee has held

two hearings on this conflict. This resolution introduced by Mr.

Payne reflects what this Subcommittee has learned through these

hearings. I am pleased to note that every Member of the Africa

Subcommittee is a cosponsor of this important resolution, and I

urge its adoption.

Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Royce.

Mr. Payne.

Mr. PAYNE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Let me thank you, Mr. Chairman, and Ranking Member Gejdenson and, of course, the Chairman of the Africa Subcommittee, Mr.

Royce, for calling this markup on Sierra Leone.

I am pleased that a cease-fire was called and that, finally, serious negotiations are beginning in Lome, Togo. I am concerned,

however, that the latest stalling by both sides has been problematic.

This war is about resources, who controls the resources in the diamond regions in the south/eastern part of the country, rather than

the whole question of the people of Sierra Leone, who should control it.

I know that the root causes of the impending crisis are based on

two political and social problems: First, the colonial powers propping up corrupt leaders while turning a blind eye when the leaders

fill their own coffers; and, second, the failure to meet the basic

needs of the people. They predicted this very thing would happen

if the then-President Momoh and now President Kabbah continued

and repeatedly failed to educate the children, provide infrastructure and give adequate health care to the people living in the

north.

You can ask any Sierra Leonean and they will tell you that there

seems to be two countries, Freetown and the rest of the country.

Over the last 30 years, mismanagement and corruption, coupled

with 10 years of ostracizing the north, has caused the war to spiral

out of control.

The failure to address these problems has created a division between young and old, countryside against town. A deeper reconciliation of all segments of Sierra Leone society will be required. I

agree we need to protect the innocent citizens, but peace should be

our primary goal.

I know the government is hesitating about sharing power with

the RUF and the AFRC, but in order to have peace there must be

an unconditional release of Corporal Foday Sankhoy. These things

are issues that must be worked out.

I still believe we need a special envoy in the region, and I think

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ea, Ghana, Liberia and Burkina Faso—early on has prevented this

from happening, and we could have used the resources there.

So, once again, we would like to see this negotiation move forward. We have had tough places before like this in Namibia and

Mozambique, but we were able to overcome these problems.

With that, I yield back the balance of my time.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Payne.

Mr. Gejdenson.

Mr. GEJDENSON. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I just have a technical amendment. The purpose of the amendment to H. Res. 62 regarding the war in Sierra Leone is to update

the resolution and recognize the progress that has been made.

Since the Africa Subcommittee marked up the bill in late May,

the government of Sierra Leone and the rebel AFRC/RUF agreed

to a cease-fire agreement that went into effect May 25, 1999. The

cease-fire talks evolved into ongoing peace talks and have begun to

bear fruit. The 8-year-old war in Sierra Leone has claimed 20,000

lives, left hundreds of others maimed and displaced hundreds

more; and we should recognize this progress.

Chairman GILMAN. The clerk will report the amendment.

Ms. BLOOMER. ‘‘Amendment offered by Mr. Gejdenson.

Page 3, strike lines 2 through 4 and insert the following:

One, welcomes——’’

Chairman GILMAN. I ask unanimous consent that the reading of

the amendment be dispensed with.

The gentleman will make a motion.

Anyone want to be heard on the amendment? Mr. Payne.

Mr. PAYNE. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.

Chairman GILMAN. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes on

the amendment.

Mr. PAYNE. I am offering an amendment to the amendment that

is authored by Mr. Hastings.

The amendment to the amendment basically goes to——

Chairman GILMAN. Mr. Payne, if you will withhold, the clerk will

report the amendment.

Ms. BLOOMER. ‘‘Amendment offered by Mr. Payne.

Whereas on May 18, 1999, President Kabbah of Sierra Leone——

’’

Chairman GILMAN. I ask unanimous consent that further reading

of the amendment be dispensed with.

Reserving a point of order on the amendment, we just want to

review the amendment.

Will the clerk distribute the amendment?

The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes on his amendment.

Mr. PAYNE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

The gentleman from Florida, Mr. Hastings, is offering this

amendment to commend the signing of the cease-fire agreement

and urge a swift solution to the crisis in Sierra Leone. The amendment goes forward once again commending the principals in this

situation, talking about dialogue for peace to start on May 25. It

goes on to recognize and commend those Sierra Leoneans who have

demonstrated their love for peace, law and order.

It supports the signing of the cease-fire on May 18. It urges all

parties to remain constructively engaged in the peace process and

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make rapid progress to bring into effect a peaceful and lasting solution to the crisis.

It commends the Rev. Jesse Jackson, the Presidential special

envoy, for the promotion of democracy in Africa. It also commends

ECOMOG and the Secretary General of the OAU, and encourages

all parties to implement the Abidjan Peace Accords; urges the U.S.

Government to appoint a special envoy and urges the U.S. Government and the international community to continue to work with all

parties to ensure a lasting peace that will end the conflict in Sierra

Leone.

I think it simply embellishes on the resolution, and I ask for its

approval.

Mr. ROYCE. Mr. Chairman.

Chairman GILMAN. Mr. Royce.

Mr. ROYCE. I thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I have to oppose this amendment offered by my colleague from

New Jersey.

Today, we are looking at a resolution that has been marked up

by the Africa Subcommittee. Our resolution is the product of considerable work. In fact, it is the product of months and months of

work by staff and Members. In fact, we have probably spent more

time on this resolution than we have on anything else that has

come before our Committee; and, as a result of this, it enjoys the

cosponsorship of all the Members of the Africa Subcommittee—all

of the Members. To accept a substitute at this time, a three-page

substitute, would be wholly inappropriate, not even delving into

the content; but let me speak to that for a minute, too, if I could.

I would like to briefly read a letter from Ambassador Leigh of Sierra Leone who wrote me recently.

‘‘The passage of House Resolution 62 today will continue this exemplary work of the Subcommittee and con- tribute to establishing

a durable peace and institutionalizing democracy not only in Sierra

Leone but in Africa.’’ He writes, ‘‘I sincerely hope that this resolution will be passed in its original form.’’

That is from the Sierra Leone, Ambassador and comes from the

representative of a democratically elected government with whom

the United States is aiding and fighting off a rebel group that has

used tactics that are quite questionable, tactics such as hacking off

hands and limbs and lips of victims.

The Africa Subcommittee has done its work. It has closely examined the issue, and I would really urge us to move on and pass our

resolution. I will come back to this, but let me make those points

at the outset, if I could, and reserve the balance of my time, Mr.

Chairman.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Royce.

Any other Members seeking recognition? No other Members

seeking recognition?

Mr. PAYNE. Mr. Chairman.

Chairman GILMAN. Mr. Payne.

Mr. PAYNE. I was going to ask the gentleman from California to

yield, but I would just once again like to reiterate that this resolution, authored by Mr. Hastings, basically does nothing to alter the

work of the Committee. As a matter of fact, Mr. Hastings was also

involved in the Committee work.

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It simply highlights the people involved. It urges us to move forward. It commends those who have worked hard; and, also, I think

that it commends the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who was the one who

brought all the countries together that were not speaking. He

called a meeting with Charles Taylor from Liberia and President

Kabbah and the President of Guinea, and has worked tirelessly

and again was an instrument for bringing the groups together,

similar to his delivering of the three prisoners of war from Kosovo.

I just think that it is appropriate to commend those persons who

have had involvement and ask our government to appoint a special

envoy and hope that we work for a lasting peace. I really don’t see

anything contradictory to the resolution that was offered by the

Chairman and myself.

So I will once again urge, Mr. Chairman, that we support the

resolution.

Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman.

Chairman GILMAN. Mr. Lantos.

Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I want to associate myself with the

comments of my colleague, Mr. Payne. I think this is a perfectly

appropriate amendment, and I urge my colleagues to support it.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Lantos.

Any other Member seeking recognition? Mr. Royce.

Mr. ROYCE. Mr. Chairman, reclaiming the balance of my time.

This is an extremely delicate situation for a resolution of this nature where we have worked out something unanimously, where

every Member is a coauthor on the Subcommittee of the resolution.

To have this three-page alternative at the 11th hour is, in my view,

inappropriate.

I urge that we stick with the original resolution passed out of the

Africa Subcommittee. I would urge my colleagues to do so, and I

thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Royce.

Mr. GEJDENSON. Mr. Chairman.

Chairman GILMAN. Mr. Gejdenson.

Mr. GEJDENSON. Might I suggest and ask unanimous consent

that maybe Mr. Royce and Mr. Payne could sit down and work out

the language? Because I don’t think there is a great difference here

on the substance, to my sense.

How much more business do we have before us? Two more bills?

Chairman GILMAN. We have two more measures.

Mr. GEJDENSON. If I could ask unanimous consent to skip over

this one for the moment and have Mr. Payne and Mr. Royce or

their staffs sit down and come back to us with agreed- upon language. I think that if there is no objection, I would ask unanimous

consent to do that.

Mr. ROYCE. Could I respond?

Chairman GILMAN. The Chair will entertain that as a reasonable

request.

Mr. ROYCE. If I could respond. If some of these, Mr. Payne, could

be offered as discrete amendments rather than a wholesale threepage substitute then I think we could work together in the ensuing

minutes to attempt to work out an agreement.

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Chairman GILMAN. The Chair then will lay aside this measure

momentarily to give Mr. Payne and Mr. Royce an opportunity to

try and work it out before we conclude with our markup.

Mr. PAYNE. Thank you.

Just for clarification, Mr. Chair, this is simply an amendment. It

is not a substitute, Mr. Royce, to the resolution. It is simply an

amendment, and the resolution as written by Mr. Royce will remain.

Chairman GILMAN. We will proceed to H.R. 1175. Mr. Royce and

Mr. Payne will meet in the interim to try to work out the problem.

Chairman GILMAN. The Committee will now consider H.R. 1175,

relating to efforts to secure the return of Zachary Baumel, an

American citizen.

The Chair lays the bill before the Committee. The clerk will report the title of the bill.

H.R. 1175, A BILL TO LOCATE AND SECURE THE RETURN OF

ZACHARY BAUMEL, AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, AND OTHER

ISRAELI SOLDIERS MISSING IN ACTION

Ms. BLOOMER. ‘‘H.R. 1175, a bill to locate and secure the return

of Zachary Baumel, an American citizen, and other Israeli soldiers

missing in action.’’

Chairman GILMAN. Without objection, the first reading of the bill

is dispensed with.

The clerk will read the bill for amendment.

Ms. BLOOMER. ‘‘Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, section 1, Congressional Findings.’’

Chairman GILMAN. Without objection, the bill is considered as

having been read and is open for amendment at any point.

This bill was not referred to the Subcommittee.

I would now recognize its sponsor, the gentleman from California, Mr. Lantos, for 5 minutes. If the gentleman has an amendment, I would recognize him to offer it either now or at the conclusion of his remarks. Mr. Lantos.

Mr. LANTOS. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. My amendments are purely technical.

Chairman GILMAN. The clerk will read the amendment. The

clerk will distribute the amendment.

Ms. BLOOMER. ‘‘Amendment offered by Mr. Lantos to H.R. 1175.

Changes are made on page 2, line 12; page 2, lines 24 through 25;

and page 3 line 1.’’

Chairman GILMAN. Without objection, the amendments are included and are considered as having been read.

The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes on his amendment.

Mr. LANTOS. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.

I want to thank you, Mr. Gejdenson, and other colleagues on the

Committee for cosponsoring my legislation.

It is a noncontroversial and straightforward piece of legislation,

calling on the Department of State to continue to do everything in

its power to obtain the release of an American citizen, Zachary

Baumel, who was captured during military activities in 1982,

whose whereabouts are somewhat in doubt, but it is our judgment

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that he is being held against his wish as a prisoner of war. Several

of us have met with Members of his family on repeated occasions.

This is a profoundly humanitarian and noncontroversial issue,

and I urge all of my colleagues to support it.

I yield back the balance of my time.

Chairman GILMAN. I want to thank our colleague, Mr. Lantos,

for sponsoring this measure. I was pleased to be a cosponsor of it.

I have worked closely with the Baumel, Feldman and Katz families since 1983, to try to locate and secure the return of their sons

from the battle of Sultan Yakub in Lebanon’s Bekaa Valley in 1982

in which they were engaged with Syrian forces. Tomorrow will

mark the 17th anniversary of that tragic day in which these soldiers were declared as missing.

H.R. 1175 emphasizes the importance that Congress places on

helping those families locate their sons. We are hoping the State

Department appreciates the priority we give to this critical humanitarian issue.

An amendment will be offered reflecting language that has been

negotiated with the State Department which requires the Department of State to raise the matter of Zachary Baumel, Yehuda Katz

and Zvi Feldman with appropriate government officials of Syria,

Lebanon, the Palestinian authority and with other governments

which may be helpful in locating and securing the return of those

soldiers.

It also will require a written report and followups from the Department to this Committee and our counterpart in the other body.

H.R. 1175 further notes that our Nation should take into consideration the willingness of regional governments to assist in locating

and securing the return of these soldiers when reviewing U.S. financial assistance programs.

Regrettably, despite the fact that the Syrian government is in a

position to assist with the investigation, appeals to President Hafiz

al-Assad have gone unanswered. Inquiries to PLO Chairman

Yasser Arafat have also hit a dead end. Nonetheless, Congress continues to be extremely concerned about the lack of resolution of

these cases and wants to ensure that the Administration will utilize all available avenues in order to return these men to their families.

Accordingly, I urge our colleagues’ support for this measure, as

amended.

Is there any other Member seeking recognition?

Mr. Gejdenson.

Mr. GEJDENSON. Mr. Chairman, I just want to commend Mr.

Lantos for once again taking the lead on an important human

rights issue. The families in this case are tormented by uncertainty.

I know others as well have raised this issue with leaders in the

Middle East. I am hopeful that with the change in government and

a reinvigoration of the peace process, that particularly President

Assad and others who may be able to shed light on this situation

will take this small act as a genuine step of confidence building

and humanitarian response by helping these families resolve this

terrible situation.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Gejdenson.

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Mr. Wexler.

Mr. WEXLER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I, too, would like to rise in strong support of H.R. 1175, introduced by Congressman Lantos.

Mr. Chairman, as has been stated, for 17 years the fate of the

three Israeli missing soldiers has remained a mystery that has

haunted their families and their nations. It was on June 11, 1982

that Zachary Baumel, a dual American/Israeli citizen, and others

were captured in northeastern Lebanon in a battle with Syrian and

Palestinian forces.

The PLO had custody of the three soldiers for the first year and

a half of their captivity. When a pro-Syrian faction split with the

PLO they took the three Israeli soldiers with them, and their

whereabouts have yet to be determined.

The Syrian government currently claims that they have no

knowledge concerning the fate of the soldiers. However, western

journalists and Syrian radio reported that the three soldiers were

paraded through Damascus several hours after they were captured.

Three weeks later, the Syrian secret police delivered four bodies

for burial to the Jewish cemetery in Damascus, claiming they were

the bodies of the Israeli soldiers. The Syrians also provided name

tags which Israeli intelligence sources reported were supplied by

the PLO’s Fatah faction. Fifteen months later, the Red Cross exhumed the four graves, finding only one Israeli body.

The most recent evidence indicates that Zachary Baumel may be

alive came from PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat, who in 1993 delivered half of Zachary Baumel’s dog tags to Israeli officials. Chairman Arafat promised that more information was forthcoming, but

he has provided none.

As recently as 1997, information has been obtained that Baumel,

along with the other two Israeli soldiers, may still be in custody in

Syrian-controlled Lebanon.

With the imminent resumption of the Middle East process, the

State Department must urge the Syrian and the Lebanese governments, along with Chairman Arafat, to secure the information that

will aid in the search for the missing soldiers. The State Department must make it clear to these governments that their willingness to assist all efforts to search for the missing soldiers should

and must be considered among other factors in the provision of

American aid and foreign assistance to these nations.

I, along with the Chairman, Congressman Lantos, and many others have had the privilege of meeting with Zachary Baumel’s parents. They hold hope, as I do, that their son and the others may

still be alive. One can only imagine the pain of these parents and

the uncertainty that they have felt for 17 years, not knowing the

status of their sons.

Mr. Chairman, I respectfully urge my colleagues to support

House Resolution 1175. Thank you.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Wexler.

Any other Member seeking recognition on this measure?

If there is no other Member seeking recognition, I would just like

to note and pursue here with the Administration that we have been

trying to get an opportunity to review the cable traffic between the

State Department and other nations with regard to this issue, and

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they have been reluctant to forward this information to our Committee. I just want the Members to know that we are asking that

this information be made available to our Committee here in the

House, either in our offices or in the Intelligence Committee offices,

so that Members will have an opportunity to explore and read the

full cable traffic on this issue.

If there is no further Member seeking recognition on this measure, the gentleman from Nebraska, Mr. Bereuter, is recognized to

offer a motion.

Mr. BEREUTER. Mr. Chairman, I want to say, Mr. Lantos, I had

hoped to be a cosponsor. I think that I am, but I would appreciate

if your staff would check on that for me.

Mr. Chairman, I move that the Chairman be requested to seek

consideration of the bill as amended on the suspension calendar.

Chairman GILMAN. The question is now on the motion of the gentleman from Nebraska, Mr. Bereuter. Those in favor of the motion,

signify by saying aye. Those opposed, say no.

The ayes have it. The motion is agreed to.

Without objection, the Chair or his designee is authorized to

make motions under Rule 22 with respect to a conference on this

bill or a counterpart from the Senate. Further proceedings on this

measure are now postponed.

Chairman GILMAN. We will now proceed with H. Con. Res. 75,

relative to the National Islamic Front government of Sudan.

The Chair lays the resolution before the Committee.

The clerk will report the title of the resolution.

H. CON. RES. 75, A CONCURRENT RESOLUTION CONDEMNING

THE NATIONAL ISLAMIC FRONT (NIF) GOVERNMENT FOR

ITS GENOCIDAL WAR IN SOUTHERN SUDAN, SUPPORT FOR

TERRORISM, AND CONTINUED HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS,

AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES

Ms. BLOOMER. ‘‘H. Con. Res. 75, a concurrent resolution condemning the National Islamic Front government for its genocidal

war in southern Sudan, support for terrorism, and continued

human rights violations, and for other purposes.’’

Chairman GILMAN. This resolution was referred to our Subcommittee on Africa and reported by it to the Full Committee with

an amendment in the nature of a substitute.

Without objection, the Subcommittee-recommended language will

be treated as original text for the purposes of an amendment.

The clerk will read the preamble and the operative language in

the Subcommittee recommendation in that order for amendment.

The clerk will read.

Ms. BLOOMER. ‘‘Whereas, according to the United States Committee for Refugees an estimated 1,900,000 people have died over

the past decade——’’

Chairman GILMAN. Without objection, the Subcommittee recommendation is considered as having been read and is now open

to amendment at any point.

I now recognize the gentleman from California, the distinguished

Chairman of our Subcommittee on Africa, Mr. Royce, to introduce

it to the Committee. Mr. Royce.

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Mr. ROYCE. I thank you, Mr. Chairman. This resolution brings

much needed attention to the terrible situation in Sudan, where

war incredibly has led to the deaths of some 1.9 million people—

1.9 million Sudanese who have died over the past decade in that

war. The vast majority have not been combatants. They have been

innocent women and children in the south who have been cruelly

subjected to starvation and to disease, as food has been used as a

weapon against them.

As the Africa Subcommittee and the Human Rights Subcommittee heard 2 weeks ago, the humanitarian crisis in Sudan remains severe. This resolution pulls no punches. The Sudanese government, it states, is committing genocide. The Sudanese government has also been engaged in slavery. This is consistent with its

international behavior. Sudan is classified as a terrorist state by

the State Department.

This resolution condemns the Sudanese government for its genocidal war in southern Sudan and its support for terrorism, deplores

the government-supported slave trade in Sudan and calls for increased and more effective aid efforts in southern Sudan.

The United States, this resolution suggests, must play a key role

in attempting to bring peace to southern Sudan. I want to commend you, Mr. Chairman, for your interest in this tragedy. I especially want to commend Mr. Payne, the author of this resolution,

as well as Mr. Meeks, who strengthened this resolution’s humanitarian aid clauses in the Subcommittee’s markup.

I thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back the balance of my time.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Royce.

Mr. Payne.

Mr. PAYNE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Let me thank you for

bringing up H. Con. Res. 75 and, as you have heard, this has been

a very, very serious issue for many years. My first visit to southern

Sudan was in 1993, with then Congressman Johnson from Florida,

and last year, with Congressman Campbell and just this past

weekend with our new colleague, very courageous and interested

person, Congressman Tom Tancredo from Colorado. This has been

an issue that for many years has been troubling to many of us who

have been on this Committee for some time, and I am glad now

that it is starting to get the attention. Senator Brownback on the

other side is also championing this cause with a number of his colleagues.

We had an opportunity to go to Loki, a border town in the area

between Kenya and Sudan, and then to Yei and Labone, both in

Southern Sudan, just this past weekend.

We must conclude that the repression of the dictatorship of the

NIF government is wrong: the use of shamanian laws throughout

the country, the fact that food is used as a weapon, the fact that

slavery is condoned by the government, the fact that the Dinka

people and other southern Sudanese are having their dignified culture destroyed and compromised by virtue of having to live in refugee camps, the fact that the government of Sudan used the old

Russian antonov planes to bomb civilians. We visited a hospital

that was only bombed 2 or 3 weeks ago. We were unsure whether

bombs would be dropped on us as we visited the south of Sudan.

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So this is a situation that cannot be tolerated any longer. It is

something in which we must ask our government to really become

more engaged and involved.

Just the other day, the government dropped 6 bombs, hitting 14

houses, killing 24 people. These weapons are used against innocent

people. The support also of the Lord’s Resistance Army in North

Uganda, an army that abducts children and uses them against the

Uganda Army, is another terrible practice which the government,

the NIF government in Khartoum, condones. So we have seen children who are branded like cattle and used as chattel and sometimes sold for as little as $15 apiece, while the government there

is not only condoning it, it encourages it.

This resolution calls on the Administration to report to Congress

within 3 months about the U.S. effort to end slavery. It calls on the

U.N. to investigate this issue. The U.N. has not been stepping up

to the plate on this dreaded issue. Sadly, the north doesn’t see anything wrong with this policy and, therefore, we need to do all we

can to bring down the government.

If 1.9 million people and 4 million have been displaced over the

past 2 decades, if Milosevic could be brought up on war crimes, I

think that the same thing for the Al-Bashir and el ta-ra-bee government should be considered.

So once again, Mr. Chairman, this is something that’s gone on

too long. There has not been indignation from the countries of the

West or the United States. It is time for us to say enough is

enough. It is time for us to step forward and say that as we move

into a new millennium there is no way that we can allow this practice to continue, to be condoned. We must do everything within our

power to see that this pariah government somehow gets the message that we will not condone this any longer.

With that, I yield back the balance of my time.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Payne.

Mr. Sherman.

Mr. SHERMAN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I strongly support this

resolution. I commend the gentleman for bringing it up. I think

that beyond this resolution, we may have to look at more aggressive approaches to try to deal with the situation, perhaps at least

exploring the possibility of multilateral aid to the resistance fighters.

Keep in mind that as has been pointed out, 1.9 million have been

killed. That is greater than the entire population of Kosovo. I realize that this government in Khartoum cloaks itself in the religious

fervor and piety of Islam. The United States can certainly not be

accused of being anti-Islamic. We just fought for the rights of the

Muslim Kosovars against oppression that tried to cloak itself in the

religion of Christianity.

So I strongly support the resolution and hope that we are willing

to take even additional steps to bring justice to Sudan.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Sherman.

Mr. Tancredo.

Mr. TANCREDO. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to just say

how much I appreciate the opportunity to have participated on the

CODEL. It was actually my first CODEL as a Member of Congress,

and it was certainly a challenging one, a challenging experience in

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a number of ways, not the least of which was to have to deal with,

to observe the plight of the people in the Sudan and feel relatively

incapable of doing anything immediately to relieve the terrible, terrible, problems that face these very valiant people.

I was especially encouraged to hear the comments of Mr. Sherman, when he talked about the possibility of having to do something perhaps beyond this, something more direct in terms of aid

directly to the SPLA or to NDA, because I agree with him that it

may very well be the next step we have to take.

Frankly, to put this in a nutshell, I believe that what is happening in the Sudan makes Kosovo look like a Sunday school picnic, and the fact that we have been able to devote as much of our

resources and attention to the problems in Kosovo without even a

mention of the situation in the Sudan, is to me unacceptable and

abhorrent. These people have been suffering for a much longer period of time. Far more people have been killed. Far more people

have been displaced, and they suffer every day, the torture, not

only the physical dangers in which they are placed, the physical effect of the war, but the psychological torture of knowing that every

single day they can be bombed. These terrorists activities of the

north continue. You listen constantly for the noise of the antonov

bomber overhead. Everybody is doing it. While we were there, we

were doing it. You are always wondering about whether or not it

is going to be there.

The people gather around you in marketplaces because they feel

that perhaps if they are near you somehow or another they won’t

be bombed, that if Americans are there, American Congressmen

are there, they will be safe for a moment or two.

How would you like to live like that every day of your life, 24

hours a day, in fear of that sound—they will see the goats begin

to run because the goats can hear it before the people can. The

goats run and the people start to run. Everywhere we were, we had

to be told where the bomb shelter was. At whatever location we

were taken to for any discussions, we had to know where the bomb

shelter was next to us so that we could get there quickly. These

people live like that every single day.

So I just want to say, again, Mr. Chairman, thank you for the

opportunity you gave me and thank my colleagues for the opportunity that they gave me to go on this trip and to be perhaps a tiny

part of a solution for these people.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Tancredo. I would like to

commend you as a freshman Member for going to this garden spot

on your first visit, and we hope that you will engage in more. I

would like to encourage our newer Members to be engaged in our

CODELS that are intended to educate us all to a greater extent.

With regard to that, before we move on, I would like to remind

our Members that we do have an important delegation visiting us

from the Council of Europe. They will be meeting with this Committee at 2 p.m. today in room H–139. The Council of Europe is

a preeminent European institution working on democracy, on

human rights and the rule of law, and I would like to encourage

our Members to please join us in that meeting.

Mr. Lantos.

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Mr. LANTOS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to commend my

good friend from New Jersey, our distinguished colleague, for offering this resolution, and I wish to identify myself with his observations. I would also like to make a comment to our friend from Colorado. I was very moved by his observations.

During the course of the last 80 days or so, a lot of people have

raised the issue of why we have participated in the military activities in Kosova while, in areas where much larger scale human

rights violations have unfolded, we have done nothing. The answer,

of course, is obvious. In Europe we have NATO, which is an alliance of 19 nations, joined together to defend and expand the sphere

of democratic and free and open institutions.

In Africa, such an institution as NATO at the moment does not

exist.

In Kosova, we crossed the Rubicon. We and our NATO allies

have recognized the fact that under extreme circumstances, human

rights violations trump national sovereignty. This will be studied

by legal scholars for generations to come. For centuries, we have

assumed that national sovereignty is the ultimate principle in the

field of international relations, and it is a tribute to our all-too-slow

evolution that we have now recognized that outrageous human

rights violations, such as the ones perpetrated by the Milosevic regime against the Muslim Albanian Kosovars, cannot be tolerated

by the civilized world.

I think it is extremely important for all of us who wish to live

in a realistic world to understand that we have to rejoice in cases

where the civilized world is capable of taking action and work toward the time when the civilized world will be able to do so everywhere. But since in many places that is not the case today, this

should not have been used and hopefully will not be used in the

future for criticizing action where in the NATO sphere of influence

action can be taken.

Mr. TANCREDO. Will the gentlemen yield?

Mr. LANTOS. I will yield in just a second. I think it is extremely

important for us to condemn the outrageous government in Khartoum for these gigantic, sickening, horrendous, inhuman violations

of human rights. I strongly urge my colleagues to support H. Con.

Res. 75, and I am happy to yield to my friend from Colorado.

Mr. TANCREDO. Thank you for yielding, sir.

I certainly did not intend for my comments to precipitate a debate on the whole issue of Kosovo, but I should say that there is

a significant difference that I observe and did observe even while

I was in the Sudan, in terms of our position vis-a-vis Sudan and

Kosovo.

Certainly everything that we were told existed in Kosovo with regard to human rights violations, and I certainly don’t disagree that

they existed, but everything we were told that was happening

there, as I said, is happening in the Sudan.

There is a different dimension in the Sudan. There is something

going on there, by the way, that we did not mention, and I did not

mention in my remarks, which does, in my mind, differentiate the

matter quite dramatically. That is that in the Sudan I can observe,

and I think all of us can observe, that there is the possibility of

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very direct threats to the national security interests of the United

States.

The resolution talks about that, in terms of the kind of terrorist

activities that are supported by the state of Sudan, by the government in the north, by Khartoum, by the exportation of that terrorism, the fact that our embassies have been bombed. I mean,

these things add a dimension that I think is extremely relevant

when we start talking about whether or not it is appropriate for

this government to take action.

Beyond that, I should also say I would be very hesitant, in fact

I would certainly oppose any direct military action on the part of

the United States in Sudan, putting troops there ourselves, bombing it ourselves. People of Sudan, especially the people in the

south, are asking only for the ability to take care of it themselves,

to defend themselves. So there are significant differences that I

would just like to put into the record.

Mr. BEREUTER. Would the gentleman yield?

Mr. LANTOS. I would be happy to yield.

Mr. BEREUTER. I thank the gentleman for yielding.

I think the gentleman was correct in pointing out the capacity

we have in NATO as a defensive alliance in Europe and the absence thereof from any such military capability, multilateral, even

if it didn’t involve the United States, in Africa. Beyond Sudan, of

course, we have had the tragic loss of huge numbers of people in

Rwanda. You could point to Eritrea and Ethiopia today. You could

point to Congo where it is going on.

I can’t resist reminding my colleagues that today we are going

to be voting on an amendment offered by Mr. Shays. It has a small

bipartisan group of cosponsors, which is absolutely shocking and

wrong headed in my judgment. It will ask that U.S. troop commitments in Europe be reduced from 100,000, where it has been reduced to that level, to 25,000 in the next three fiscal years. We

could not have a combat division in Europe under that limitation.

I do hope my colleagues will help in resisting this kind of issue.

We have had burden sharing debates in the past, but nothing of

that Draconian level.

I thank the gentleman for yielding.

Mr. LANTOS. Reclaiming my time, I could not agree more strongly than I do with my very distinguished colleague from Nebraska.

I think the proposal to reduce the U.S. military presence in Europe

to a 25,000 troop level is preposterous, and I earnestly hope that

that proposed amendment will be overwhelmingly defeated.

I yield back the balance of my time.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Lantos.

Mr. Smith.

Mr. SMITH. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.

I want to thank Mr. Payne for sponsoring this very important

resolution. As he knows, because he was a very active participant,

we had a hearing along with Ed Royce’s Subcommittee, on May

27th, at which time we explored crimes against humanity in the

Sudan. We heard from a number of very distinguished witnesses,

including Dr. Millard Burr from the U.S. Committee on Refugees.

He pointed out that the total estimated deaths, and this was as of

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uals; per year about 126,000; per month about 10,500; per week a

little over 24,000; per day, approximately 356 people who were

dying because of the slaughter.

We also had a very heavy emphasis on the ongoing chattel slavery. We held a hearing 3 years ago, at which time we heard from

people who had family members abducted by the slave owners in

these raids. These heinous acts, where people are literally stolen

from their homes and turned into slaves, that barbaric practice

continues to this day.

This resolution rightfully points out that we need to be far more

proactive in trying to end, not just mitigate but end, this terrible

practice of chattel slavery in addition to this genocidal war that’s

going on.

Very important, too, and several of our witnesses spoke about

this, and Mr. Tancredo spoke very eloquently about this as well, is

this whole idea of a Khartoum veto with Operation Lifeline. I think

it is outrageous. I mean, the UNICEF and the U.N. are doing their

noblest best to try to feed as many people as possible, but when

you turn to a government that is using food as a weapon and you

need to gain or garner their permission in order to get the food to

their people, we need to find some other way.

Keep it going—try to reform it—but we need to find other means

to get that vital food and medicine cargo to these people who are

dying. Food is being used as a weapon, let there be no mistake

about it.

I just want to thank again Mr. Payne and Mr. Tancredo, who

have taken an absolutely strong and active interest in this. As Mr.

Gilman pointed out, to go to the Sudan on your first trip overseas

trip certainly shows a seriousness about human rights and about

people who are truly in grave distress. They die by the day, and

we need to do more. We need a more activist policy.

Again, thank you, Mr. Payne, for offering this.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Smith.

Any other Members seeking recognition? Mr. Gejdenson.

Mr. GEJDENSON. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to have

my statement placed in the record.

Chairman GILMAN. Without objection.

Any other Member seeking recognition?

If not, I yield myself sufficient time.

The degree of suffering here in the Sudan is mind-boggling; 1.9

million killed, the statistic that Mr. Smith just recited. The government of Sudan must remain isolated. Our Nation’s long-term strategic interests demand that we fight this kind of militant Islamic

fundamentalism that the government of Sudan has exhibited and

no easing of sanctions should be permitted.

There are times when our Nation must state clearly its abhorrence for state-sponsored behavior that’s so egregious and so contrary to the interests of our Nation and of all peace-loving nations.

Accordingly, I commend our colleagues on this Committee who

have recently traveled to the region and thank them for bringing

this measure before us.

Are there any further amendments? Mr. Tancredo.

Mr. TANCREDO. I have an amendment, I think, at the desk.

Chairman GILMAN. The clerk will report the amendment.

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Ms. BLOOMER. ‘‘Amendment offered by Mr. Tancredo. Page 8, line

19, strike ‘‘and’’; page 9, line 19, strike the period and insert a

semicolon; page 9, after line 19, add the following: 6, urges the

Intergovernmental Authority for Development partners under the

leadership of President Daniel Arap Moi to call on the government

of Sudan to immediately stop the indiscriminate bombings in

southern Sudan; and, 7, strongly condemns any governments who

financially support the government of Sudan.’’

Chairman GILMAN. The clerk will distribute the amendment. The

gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.

Mr. TANCREDO. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I just want to make sure with this amendment that we are able

to add every single aspect of whatever arsenal that we have, I use

that figuratively, in terms of trying to stop the bombing immediately. I know in the resolution itself it suggests several actions

that we should take, including supplying the south with SAM missiles, but I wanted just to make sure that we do not overlook the

fact that there is the opportunity available to us to bring to the attention of the Sudan our deep concern about these bombings

through the peace process. So that’s really the purpose of this

amendment, and also then to condemn any government, as I say,

for supporting the government of the north.

There are many aspects of this. One in particular, of course, is

the construction of a pipeline that has—it is completed and was

paid for by several interests, governments of Malaysia and China

and business interests in Canada, but there are others, of course,

who are also involved with supporting the government and so I just

wanted to bring that to the attention of the Congress.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Tancredo.

Mr. Payne.

Mr. PAYNE. I strongly support the resolution by Mr. Tancredo.

There is no question that there is an intergovernmental agency, the

IGAD partners led by President Moi, that have been conducting

discussions. We urge them to, as he has indicated, to ask for the

immediate halt of the bombing there in Sudan. I think that also

condemning these countries from supporting this government,

which is on our sanctions list, with their financial support simply

is a way that will continue to see these atrocities continued unless

there is some dramatic action taken by those who feel that this

government should cease and desist.

I would just like to indicate that I strongly support the amendment.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Payne.

Is there any further debate? If not, the question is now on the

gentleman’s amendment. As many as are in favor signify by saying

aye. As many opposed say no.

The ayes have appear to have it. The amendment is agreed to.

Are there any further amendments to this measure?

Mr. PAYNE. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.

Chairman GILMAN. The clerk will read the amendment.

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dent to transmit to the Congress not later than 90 days after the

date.’’

Mr. PAYNE. I move that the amendment be considered as read.

Chairman GILMAN. Without objection, the amendment is agreed

to as having been read.

The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes on the amendment.

Mr. PAYNE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

This amendment calls on the President to report to Congress regarding the Operation Lifeline Sudan (OLS), the question of flight

suspensions. As has been indicated, the government of Khartoum

has the right to stop relief supplies from reaching the people in the

south. This is certainly not a way to go.

We have heard about the numbers of people who have perished

during this struggle. Of course, the most vulnerable would be pregnant women, women nursing children, children under six, the elderly, hospital patients, handicapped people. All have died during

the ineffective delivering of food through the government controlled

Operation Lifeline Sudan.

Relief efforts were hindered and had a severe setback earlier this

year when Khartoum banned flights into southern Sudan for 2

months. The flight placed ban upon the entire region of Bahr el

Ghazal on February 3, 1998, was the most comprehensive flight restriction since OLS’s creation. Even at the urgent request of

USAID, the government refused; 350,000 people were in urgent

need of assistance.

I am gravely concerned about the human catastrophe that

unfolds each year in southern Sudan. Operation Lifeline Sudan

was established in 1989 by the United Nations in order to prevent

the people in the south from dying of starvation. It is almost assisting them to starve rather than helping prevent them from starving.

Twenty percent of USAID’s assistance goes toward non-OLS

NGO’s working in areas outside the control of the government. I

would hope that we could have additional funding to see that outside of the OLS, NGO’s would have more support.

The government has used food as a weapon, as we have heard.

Starvation is an inexpensive war strategy and the government does

it each year.

This amendment also calls on the support of USAID’s Sudanese

Transition Assistance for Rehabilitation, known as STAR program,

which helps to develop democracy in a civil society and a rule of

law to the NDA, which is an opposition organization to the government.

Mr. Chairman, I urge the adoption of the amendment.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Payne.

Mr. Royce.

Mr. ROYCE. I urge support of the amendment from the gentleman

from New Jersey, and I urge we pass the bill.

Chairman GILMAN. Are there any other Members seeking recognition or offering amendments? If not, the question is now on the

Payne amendment to the underlying measure. All in favor signify

by saying aye. All opposed say no.

The ayes have it. The amendment is agreed to.

The gentleman from New Jersey, Mr. Smith, is recognized to

offer a motion.

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Mr. SMITH. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Chairman, I move that the Chairman be requested to seek

consideration of the pending resolution, H. Con. Res. 75, as amended, on the Suspension Calendar.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Smith.

The question is on the motion from the gentleman from New Jersey, Mr. Smith. As many as are in favor of the motion signify by

saying aye. As many as opposed signify by saying no.

The aye haves it. The motion is agreed to.

Without objection, the Chairman will be permitted to make motions under Rule 22 relative to a conference on this bill or a companion measure from the Senate.

Further proceedings on this measure are now postponed.

We will now return to H. Res. 62, which is pending with a second

degree amendment by Mr. Payne and a first degree amendment by

Mr. Gejdenson.

Mr. Payne is recognized for a unanimous consent request. Mr.

Payne.

Mr. PAYNE. Without objection, Mr. Chairman, I would ask that

the pending Payne second degree amendment and the Gejdenson

first degree amendment be withdrawn, and I have a further

amendment.

Chairman GILMAN. Without objection, so ordered. Is there any

further discussion on this measure?

Any further amendments, Mr. Payne?

Mr. PAYNE. No. Mr. Gejdenson compromised.

Chairman GILMAN. On the Gejdenson amendment, the clerk will

distribute. The clerk will read the amendment.

Ms. BLOOMER. ‘‘Amendment offered by Mr. Gejdenson, page 3,

strike lines 2 through 4 and insert the following: First, welcomes

the cessation of hostilities and calls for the respect of human rights

by all combatants; second, applauds the effective diplomacy.’’

Chairman GILMAN. Without objection, the amendment is considered as having been read.

I recognize Mr. Gejdenson for 5 minutes on the amendment.

Mr. GEJDENSON. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I commend Chairman Royce and Mr. Payne for working out the differences that existed. We all share the same goals here. This is a positive step for

the Committee, and I urge its passage.

Chairman GILMAN. Any other Members seeking recognition?

Mr. ROYCE. Let me add, Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman.

This is a serious business. We have tens of thousands of casualties

there; 6,000 people in 2 days alone lost their lives in the latest carnage around the capitol. Forced amputations of arms, limbs, lips of

women and children occur on a continuing basis and so we need

to reach closure on this resolution and get this passed as soon as

possible.

I thank the gentleman for working out this amendment.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Royce.

Mr. Payne.

Mr. PAYNE. Just let me thank the Chairman of the Africa Subcommittee for his continued interest and cooperation. I appreciate

our being able to move this very important resolution forward, and

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for being able to come up with language acceptable to both of us.

I appreciate this support and I urge adoption of the resolution.

Chairman GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Payne.

Are there any other further Members seeking recognition? We

are now on the Gejdenson amendment. All in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed say no.

The aye have it. The Gejdenson amendment is agreed to.

Are there any further amendments or further discussion on the

overall bill?

The question is now on agreeing to the Subcommittee recommendation as amended. As many as are in favor of the amendment say aye. As many as opposed say no.

The amendment is agreed to.

The gentleman from New Jersey, Mr. Smith, is recognized to

offer a motion.

Mr. SMITH. Mr. Chairman, I move that the Chairman be requested to seek consideration of the pending resolution H. Res. 62,

as amended, on the suspension calendar.

Chairman GILMAN. The question is now on the motion by the

gentleman from New Jersey, Mr. Smith. As many as are in favor

of the motion signify by saying aye. As many as opposed say no.

The ayes have it. The ayes have it. The motion is agreed to.

Any further business before the Committee? If not, the Committee stands adjourned and I thank the Members.

Please don’t forget the European Council meeting at 2 p.m.

[Whereupon, at 11:20 a.m., the Committee was adjourned.]

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