T.C. Memo. 1999-307

UNITED STATES TAX COURT

ESTATE OF DELORES E. LASARZIG, DECEASED, 

WELLS FARGO BANK, TRUSTEE, Petitioner v. 

COMMISSIONER OF INTERNAL REVENUE, Respondent

Docket No. 17956-97. Filed September 16, 1999.

P moved to stay the proceedings (delay entry of

decision) for up to 20 years so that the estate’s

beneficiaries, who were already in possession of the

estate’s assets, could borrow against, as opposed to

selling, the assets because the beneficiaries believed

that market conditions were unfavorable. The delay was

to permit the deduction of interest on a loan incurred

by the estate’s beneficiaries (or by their trusts) in

order to pay the estate tax owed by the estate. In all

other respects, the parties had agreed on all of the

issues raised, and a decision could be entered. At the

time of P’s motion the estate tax liability had been

paid. R objects to P’s motion on the ground that the

interest in question is not deductible by the estate

under sec. 2053, I.R.C., and the underlying

regulations.

Held: P’s motion is denied because of failure to

show entitlement to interest deductions under sec.

2053, I.R.C. Estate tax cases involving borrowing to
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1 Section references are to the Internal Revenue Code as

amended and in effect for the period under consideration.

2 With the exception of the current controversy, all other

issues have been agreed on by the parties. The estate tax

liability has been paid, and this case is ready to be finalized

by the entry of a decision. Petitioner claims that the allowance

of deductions for the interest in question will result in a

refund of estate tax already paid.

pay estate tax and involving delay in entry of decision

reviewed.

Gregory Arnold and John W. Ambrecht, for petitioner.

Donna F. Herbert, for respondent.

MEMORANDUM OPINION

GERBER, Judge: Petitioner moved to stay the proceedings

(delay entry of decision) in order to be able, under section

2053,1 to deduct interest on a loan that was incurred to pay the

estate tax. Petitioner also seeks to deduct the attorney’s and

trustee’s fees incurred in the pursuit of resolving the

stay/interest issue.2 The interest is payable over 20 years. 

Although there is no objection to the deduction of the fees,

respondent objects to the deduction of the interest because

“Petitioner has not proven or demonstrated that the interest

expense which it seeks to deduct over a twenty year time period

is properly deductible under the Internal Revenue Code.”
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Background

 Delores E. Lasarzig (decedent) died on March 14, 1993, and

her gross estate primarily consisted of interests in two trusts. 

One trust was decedent’s living trust, and the other was a

qualified terminal interest property (QTIP) trust established

under decedent’s predeceased husband’s will. Other than the two

trusts, decedent’s sole assets were those that had been in her

conservatorship estate prior to death. The estate was granted a

6-month extension to June 14, 1994, for payment of the Federal

estate tax. The estate had paid $500,000 with the first request

for extension and estimated that a $3,151,785 estate tax was due. 

Because the estate had a $2,735,537 cash shortfall, a second

extension was requested, and, at the time of the request, another

$416,248 in tax plus $14,784 interest was paid. By means of an

October 13, 1994, letter, respondent denied the estate’s request

for a second extension.

The estate administratively appealed respondent’s denial,

explaining that the estate involved two trusts, a family trust

and a QTIP testamentary trust established under decedent’s late

husband’s will. The family trust had paid its portion of the

estate tax, but the QTIP trust was unable to pay currently its

remaining share ($2,700,275). The QTIP trust had sold all of its

assets with the exception of three parcels of realty. One

property, an automobile service station, was chemically
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contaminated, affecting its marketability. The other two

properties had been leased to a third party who had developed

them into a shopping center. It appears that the shopping center

properties were the most significant assets held in the QTIP

trust and the only potential source for the payment of the QTIP’s

agreed portion of the estate tax liability. The estate explained

to respondent that because of a depressed real estate market and

for various other reasons these properties were not expected to

“bring a very good price” at that time. On November 15, 1994,

respondent approved a second extension to June 14, 1995.

Thereafter, on September 27, 1995, the QTIP trustee

distributed the two shopping center parcels to decedent’s

beneficiaries as tenants in common, who in turn transferred the

property to the beneficiaries’ respective personal family trusts. 

The trustees of the personal family trusts and the beneficiaries 

of decedent’s estate are the same persons (the children of

decedent). The personal family trust of each beneficiary was

separate from the two trusts that made up the bulk of the

estate’s assets. The estate’s request for a third extension was

filed and denied during 1995, and in the appeal it was explained

that the service station was under contract whereby it would be

sold, and the transaction was expected to close in about 60 days. 

Respondent granted the third extension until June 14, 1996.
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On June 12, 1996, and December 30, 1997, fourth and fifth

extensions were requested and granted until January 31, 1997, and

December 30, 1998, respectively. All five extensions were

granted pursuant to respondent’s discretionary authority under

section 6161(a). On December 3, 1998, respondent served Stewart

Title Co. a notice of lien for the estate’s tax liability with

respect to the shopping center properties. On December 31, 1998,

the balance of the outstanding estate tax liability was paid with

the proceeds of a loan secured on a parcel of the shopping center

property. The loan was for 20 years with 7-percent interest and

a $26,361 monthly payment. The borrowers were the personal

family trusts of the beneficiaries. The borrowers may prepay the

loan after the third year, and the lender has the option to

accelerate the outstanding balance after 10 years if certain

conditions exist at that time. The term of the loan will end

December 30, 2018. We assume that to the extent the estate is

paying the interest on the loan, such payment is on behalf of or

to reimburse the beneficiaries’ family trusts.

Discussion

The threshold question underlying the parties’ controversy

is whether, under the circumstances of this case, the interest on

debt obtained to pay estate tax is an expense of administration

of the estate within the meaning of section 2053(a). The parties

interpret the existing case law as favoring their respective
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positions. Petitioner’s argument is that the circumstances of

this case should logically be allowed as a natural extension of

the existing precedent. Respondent’s argument is that the

interest being paid here is not being incurred in the

administration of the estate and, in addition, that petitioner

has not shown that it is allowable under local law.

The parties agree that the interest here is an otherwise

nondeductible personal obligation that could not have been

claimed by the trustee/beneficiaries or their respective family

trusts, which obtained the loan. Both parties also agree that,

under appropriate circumstances, an otherwise nondeductible

interest expense may be deductible as an administration expense

in an estate tax setting. Finally, respondent also agrees that

“an estate may [,under certain circumstances,] borrow money from

a private lender to satisfy its Federal estate tax liability and

deduct the interest on the debt as an administration expense

under section 2053”. Accordingly, we consider whether the

interest paid is deductible under section 2053. If we decide

that the interest is deductible, then we must decide whether it

would be appropriate to permit this proceeding to be stayed for

as long as 20 years to permit the payment and deduction of the

interest before entry of a decision.

To be deductible under section 2053, expenditures must be

actually and necessarily incurred in the administration of the
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estate and allowable under local law. Section 20.2053-3(a),

Estate Tax Regs., provides the following interpretation of the

above-stated requirement:

The amounts deductible from a decedent's gross estate

as “administration expenses” * * * are limited to such

expenses as are actually and necessarily incurred in

the administration of the decedent’s estate; that is,

in the collection of assets, payment of debts, and

distribution of property to the persons entitled to it. 

The expenses contemplated in the law are such only as

attend the settlement of an estate and the transfer of

the property of the estate to individual beneficiaries

or to a trustee * * *. Expenditures not essential to

the proper settlement of the estate, but incurred for

the individual benefit of the heirs, legatees, or

devisees, may not be taken as deductions. * * * 

Further explanation is provided in section 20.2053-8(b), Estate

Tax Regs., as follows:

The only expenses in administering property not subject

to claims which are allowed as deductions are those

occasioned by the decedent’s death and incurred in

settling the decedent’s interest in the property or

vesting good title to the property in the

beneficiaries. Expenses not coming within the

description in the preceding sentence but incurred on

behalf of the transferees are not deductible.

Respondent argues that the last sentence of each of the

above-quoted regulations should govern the situation in this

case. Respondent reasons that the loan proceeds used to pay the

estate tax were “attributable” to assets in or associated with a

QTIP trust. Because the QTIP trust is not subject to the probate

of the estate, section 2053(b) and section 20.2053-8(b), Estate

Tax Regs., govern this situation and prohibit the deduction of
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the interest as an administrative expense of the estate. In this

regard, we note that the trusts that now hold the shopping center

property are unrelated to the estate and to the two trusts that

made up the bulk of the estate’s assets.

Respondent emphasizes the following facts in this case that

he contends support a holding that the interest would not be

deductible under section 2053: (1) The real estate securing the

loans in question was transferred to and is under the control of

the beneficiaries; (2) the beneficiaries’ trusts, not the estate,

chose to secure a loan in 1998 rather than to sell the realty

because of their dissatisfaction with market conditions; (3) the

estate and the underlying trust have already benefited from five

extensions of the time for payment of the estate tax, two before

the property transfer to the beneficiaries’ trusts and three

after the transfer; (4) at the end of the extension period

permitted by respondent, it was the trustees of unrelated trusts

who made the choice to borrow to pay the estate tax, rather than

to sell the property; and (5) the loan is secured by property not

held by the estate and is payable over 20 years. These factors,

contends respondent, indicate that petitioner has not established

that the decision to borrow was necessary to the administration

of the estate.

Petitioner, in an attempt to reconcile respondent’s

contentions, makes the following points: (1) The QTIP trust had
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sold all of its assets, with the exception of the shopping center

parcels, so it did not unreasonably refuse to sell assets; (2) it

is not impermissible for an estate to incur expense (in this case

interest) to preserve property for the benefit of the

beneficiaries; (3) the loan was secured in order to vest good

title in the beneficiaries because the proceeds were used to pay

off the estate tax and remove the Government’s lien from the

shopping center realty; (4) because the shopping center property

had a value of more than double the outstanding tax liability, it

would have been necessary to sell only a fractional interest and

a severe discount would have resulted. If the entire property

had been sold, the expenses of sale would have had to be borne by

the portion that did not go to pay the estate tax, as well as the

portion that was used for that purpose; (5) the trustee/

beneficiaries believed that the shopping center would increase in

value and they should be allowed to borrow against, as opposed to

selling, the property; and (6) the situation here is analogous to

that of a trust holding a family farm for which sections 2032A

and 2057 permit the type of relief petitioner seeks. Those

estate tax provisions indicate a general congressional intent to

preserve estates’ interests in certain family-owned businesses.

Although we consider the cases cited by the parties in order

to reach our conclusion, the parties’ interpretations of the

cases appear generally to favor the allowance of the deduction of
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3 A more complete discussion of the cases appears later in

this opinion.

interest on a loan to an estate to pay estate tax. As we have

explained, the fundamental question we must answer here is

whether, under the circumstances of this case, the estate is

entitled to deduct the interest expense pursuant to section 2053. 

We conclude and hold that petitioner has not shown, within the

meaning of section 2053 and the underlying regulations, that it

is entitled to deduct the interest expense in question.

First, the case precedent petitioner relies on in support of

its interest deduction involved circumstances where the expense

(interest) was incurred during the administration of the estate

and before the resolution of the tax controversy.3 Petitioner

seeks to keep this case open for up to 20 years after the parties

have resolved all controversies that were initially placed in

issue. Second, after several extensions of time, the QTIP trust,

in 1995, transferred the shopping center property to the

beneficiaries who, in turn, transferred the property to their

family trusts, of which they were the trustees. In this regard,

petitioner’s contentions that the QTIP trust did not unreasonably

delay are irrelevant.

The QTIP trust was obligated to pay its share of the Federal

estate tax over to the estate and failed to do so because the

QTIP trustee (who was also a beneficiary of the estate) made the
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4 We note that it is within respondent’s discretion, as

provided by Congress in sec. 6161, to extend the period for

payment of the tax for up to 10 years. In that regard, under the

circumstances of this case, respondent was not unreasonable in

the exercise of his discretion. Respondent granted five

extensions, and the payment of the tax was delayed for about 5

years, which seems to be a sufficient time to raise the funds to

pay an agreed tax obligation. 

decision that the value of the realty was depressed, and it was

not a good time to liquidate. Instead, the realty was

distributed to the beneficiaries, and they placed the property

into their own family trusts. Thereafter, the beneficiaries

continued to believe that market conditions were not right, and

so they borrowed (through their family trusts) the money to pay

the QTIP’s share of the estate’s tax burden.4 Respondent had

filed a notice of his lien in 1998, and the lien was satisfied

from the proceeds of the beneficiaries’ family trusts’ loan at

the loan settlement/closing. After the payment of the

outstanding estate tax liability, there remained no disputes

concerning the estate tax liability that had been reported on the

estate’s return. Likewise, at that juncture, there remained no

assets in the estate to administer on behalf of or to distribute

to the estate's beneficiaries. Under these facts, it is

difficult to see how the estate could meet the requirement of

section 2053 and the underlying regulations.

Although we have found that petitioner has not shown that

the interest on the loan meets the statutory requirements, we
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review the cases cited by the parties in order to complete our

review of the parties’ arguments. Petitioner’s argument relies

on a number of cases where this Court addressed the question of

whether a Tax Court proceeding could be prolonged or extended to

accommodate various types of deductions sought by taxpayers

(usually estates). In Estate of Bahr v. Commissioner, 68 T.C. 74

(1977), the Court considered a question analogous to the one

under consideration. That case involved the question of whether

the Bahr estate was entitled to deduct (under section 2053)

estate tax interest being paid to the Federal Government under

the deferred payment provisions of section 6161. In holding that

such interest was deductible as an administration expense under

section 2053(a)(2), the Court focused on the question of whether

interest on tax liability is, in effect, part of the tax. If so,

it was unquestioned that the estate tax was not deductible. 

However, the Court agreed with earlier cases that had held that

the “‘interest on a tax is not a tax, but something in addition

to a tax.’” Id. at 79-80 (quoting Capital Bldg. & Loan

Association v. Commissioner, 23 B.T.A. 848, 849 (1931), and

Pearson v. Commissioner, 4 T.C. 218 (1944), affd. 154 F.2d 256

(3d Cir. 1946)). Under the circumstances of that case, the

interest was otherwise deductible because it met the requirements

of section 2053. Petitioner focuses on Estate of Bahr v.

Commissioner, supra, because, ultimately, the Court permitted the
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5 Petitioner has argued that if we do not permit the stay

of these proceedings for the requested period (up to 20 years),

that it should be able to deduct a present value estimate of the

interest. In that regard, respondent has indicated that it would

be impossible to estimate the interest because the loan could be

prepaid and/or the lender could, under certain circumstances

accelerate the outstanding balance. 

6 See, e.g., Estate of Wetherington v. Commissioner, 108

T.C. 49 (1997), where this Court deferred entry of decision

during the pendency of the Commissioner’s consideration of

(continued...)

estate to deduct “projected interest payments” it had claimed. 

Id. at 83.5 The Estate of Bahr case, however, involved a

situation where the taxpayer (estate) was paying interest to the

Government pursuant to the Commissioner’s approval to permit the

Bahr estate to defer payment under section 6161. That is not the

situation here. Respondent, after a succession of five

extensions, filed a lien, and the tax was paid. It is after the

payment, not during its deferral, that petitioner seeks to deduct

interest incurred by the beneficiaries and/or their own family

trusts because of their choice to hold the property for

appreciation and, instead, borrow against it to meet their

obligation to pay an agreed estate tax liability.

Petitioner asks us to use Estate of Bahr v. Commissioner,

supra, as a platform from which to extend relief to it. Although

this Court has accommodated taxpayers in circumstances where

their delay was either approved by the Commissioner or

statutorily mandated,6 it is not within our province to create a 
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6(...continued)

whether to permit an extension under sec. 6161. In that case,

the Court specifically noted that the circumstances were

different from one where the parties had agreed to a stipulated

decision, and a 5-year delay was sought and denied. See Estate

of Nevelson v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 1996-361. The Court also

noted that “the parties have not agreed to a date to file a

stipulated decision.” Estate of Wetherington v. Commissioner,

supra at 53.

remedy that is clearly within the province of Congress. There

has been no case like the present one where: (1) The parties

have resolved the estate tax liability by agreement; (2) no

section 6161 extension is in effect or application pending; (3)

no deferred payment under section 6166 is in effect; and (4) the

taxpayer seeks an extended delay (up to 20 years) so that a

nonparty (family trusts of beneficiaries) can benefit from

improved market conditions that may or may not occur.

The result in the Estate of Bahr case was distinguished in

Estate of Bailly v. Commissioner, 81 T.C. 246 (1983) (Bailly I),

where the Court noted that in Estate of Bahr the interest rate

was constant, whereas in Bailly I the interest rate fluctuated

(from 6 to 20 percent). Because the amount of interest on an

estate tax liability could not be estimated with reasonable

certainty, in Bailly I the estate was not allowed to deduct the

estimated or future payments of interest. In Bailly I, the Court

also refused to permit relief to the estate by allowing it to

vary from the Commissioner’s procedure of the filing of an
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amended estate tax return and claiming a refund, ostensibly in

another Federal tax forum.

The Bailly estate moved for reconsideration of the holding

in Bailly I, seeking to have this Court defer entry of a decision

so as to permit payments under section 6166 and, after the

payments were completed, to then enter a decision reflecting the

interest that had been paid. In Estate of Bailly v.

Commissioner, 81 T.C. 949 (1983) (Bailly II), the relief was

granted to the estate, in that it was held that the entry of

decision was to be postponed or deferred until the final

installment of tax was due or paid, whichever occurred first. An

unpaid estate tax liability and its deferral are not elements

present in the circumstances presently before the Court. It is

noted that in Bailly II the Commissioner had no objection to the

delay in entry of decision until the taxpayer completed the

payments under section 6166. The Court in Bailly II expressed

concerns about inconvenience, hardship, and administrative

expense to the Court and the parties, suggesting that a

legislative solution was needed. After the issuance of the

Bailly II opinion, Congress enacted section 7481(d), which,

effectively, permits this Court to reopen section 6166 cases to

consider interest issues after a decision has been entered.

Subsequently, in Estate of Wetherington v. Commissioner, 108

T.C. 49 (1997), the practice of delaying entry of decision was
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7 Another substantial difference is that prior cases

involved situations where the taxpayer was either permitted to

extend, in the process of seeking extension, or making deferred

payments under statutory provisions where Congress had provided

specific relief, an element clearly lacking in our factual

situation.

extended to section 6161 situations were the estates are given

additional time to pay the estate tax liability and interest

accrues in the same manner as in the section 6166 situations.

Petitioner argues that the facts in this case present an

opportunity for a logical extension of the practice of delaying

decisions to permit the deduction of interest that has been

permitted for sections 6166 and 6161 situations. Petitioner

contends that the only difference7 between Estate of Bailly and

Estate of Wetherington and this case is that in the prior cases

the estates were, in effect, borrowing from the Government and

here the borrowing is from a private source. As to that point,

petitioner refers to Estate of Bahr v. Commissioner, 68 T.C. 74

(1977), where the Court permitted interest deductions for the

estate’s borrowing from a private source to pay the estate tax

liability. Respondent addresses petitioner’s arguments by

explaining that, unlike Estate of Bahr v. Commissioner, supra,

here the estate did not borrow to pay its estate tax liability. 

Instead, the loan proceeds were obtained by the family trusts of

the trustee/beneficiaries. As we have already found, petitioner
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has not shown entitlement to the interest deduction under section

2053. Accordingly, respondent’s argument is well taken.

In the same vein, the parties each relied on Estate of Todd

v. Commissioner, 57 T.C. 288 (1971), and Estate of Huntington v.

Commissioner, 36 B.T.A. 698 (1937). Those cases involved

situations where estates were permitted to deduct the interest on

borrowing to pay the estate tax. Respondent agrees that under

certain circumstances an estate is entitled to deduct interest on

a loan used to pay estate tax. Respondent, however, points out

that it was the estate that borrowed in those cases and that

petitioner has not shown entitlement to a section 2053 deduction. 

Respondent further points out that in Estate of Huntington, the

Board referenced the fact that the loan transactions were

sanctioned by the California State probate court, which found the

loans to be for the benefit of the estate. We observe that in

Estate of Huntington the Board also noted that at all times the

individuals who incurred the related expenses were acting in

their capacity as executors.

In Estate of Todd v. Commissioner, supra, the Court noted

that Texas law granted the estate fiduciary authority to borrow

funds for payment of Federal estate and State inheritance taxes. 

See id. at 294. The Court, in Estate of Todd, also found it

important that because the estate did not have any liquid assets,

the estate borrowed to pay its estate tax. In sum, these cases
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presented factual circumstances where the estates met the

requirement of section 2053 or its predecessor sections. 

Petitioner cites a few other cases where estates were allowed to

deduct interest or sell assets because of a lack of liquidity,

but in each instance, unlike the circumstances we confront, the

entity borrowing funds or selling assets was the estate.

 Finally, petitioner, in response to respondent’s argument

that petitioner has not shown that the interest here would be

allowable under State law, refers us to California trust law at

probate code section 16241, which provides: “The trustee has the

power to borrow money for any trust purpose to be repaid from

trust property.” Cal. Prob. Code sec. 16241 (West 1991).

Petitioner contends that the above language unambiguously permits

the trustees to borrow for any trust purpose. Petitioner,

however, misses the point. The trusts petitioner references are

the family trusts of the beneficiaries. Those family trusts were

the recipients of the shopping center property after the property

had first been distributed from the QTIP trust to the

beneficiaries. Although the QTIP trust, created in decedent’s

husband’s will, did have a nexus to decedent’s estate because the

value of the assets was part of the gross estate, the family

trusts of the beneficiaries are merely their personal

instrumentalities of which they are the respective trustees. For

those trusts to borrow funds to pay off the QTIP’s obligation for
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the estate tax is far removed from the administration of the

estate, which was without assets to pay the liability and which,

accordingly, did not require any further administration or

expense thereof. Moreover, the estate tax liability was

determined and paid and was only to be affected to the extent

that petitioner could show that the interest was allowable under

section 2053.

After a review of case precedent and the parties’ arguments,

we agree with respondent that petitioner has not shown that the

interest here is deductible under section 2053. Accordingly, we

leave for another day the question of whether 20 years is too

long a period to delay entry of decision to accommodate allowable

after-occurring deductions of an estate.

To reflect the foregoing,

An appropriate order will be

issued.