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ll >0'< concotn about oeop!e be>ng flooded out if the dam 

ll i< not teiofoc<ed prop<tly, it •�uld be a"'"""'· huge 

14 dlS"ter, bocause so """Y hones a re beiog bullt in <ho 

l\ 'lood p'ane so just as a pr>va<e ind1v1dual, of coocse 

1£ we ""uld all be '"""t ed by that_ so I oant the c oop; 

1? of'"''"""" to do a vecy good job I want them to got 

lB the mo ney to do it_ 

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>O Aubutn Dom be>nq �en·iooed '"""""'"as an altecnatwe to 

>I any of th e """" that thio pcoject is prnp o>ing to do, 

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IJ Folsom Da• really need' the main g,ltes to oe copa 1r ed oc 

14 <epaoed. thot's che ma>n problem 

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7 in fca>tru<tur< proj«t thot we ore doing a. a people 

3 reg.,dle" of tOe '""-

11 conccete, '<'> an earth dam, To me, it'' a '''�'"9 

11 bo mb. "'>t only i> 1t on an old civ.,bed oo n onsolid 

l3 bedmtk on nonsolid ground, it'< •l<o eigh t next to or 

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17 chaooe ovec time_ 

IS •t r.al concorn "th>t t�• >ncceasod , . .,,,.. 

19 placed upon Mor •o n Island ua <1l1ary dO' by a ""'of 

10 the lake level will lead to' <Oto>tco ph'< f., lure ond 

11 collap'" of tl" ""''mon IslanO can and th•n all tho 

ll h o"'"' ace do-n"roam -- ociginally whon lho d""' wa< 

ll l>ui lt in 1948 <0 19>6, the only tfllng downstrea� of 

l< ""'""'n r>lond Dam were cott le pa >ture>- Now th ere are 

>< hun(lred> of"'""'· """"""'of c e>id<nt• in the patn of 

1 tl>at potential 30 foot •all of �atec 

J '�" pro;ect know10g we have ''" t ick'"� t>""b? ! 

; urdecHand there'• goi n9 to be an '"9'reecing otudy dono 

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6 should be tryi ng to i ncorporate in every l ong-term 

7 i nfrastructure proj ect that we are doi ng as a people 

8 regardless of the cost. 

9 MIKE COFFMAN: My concern is the Mormon Isl and 

10 auxiliary dam which is an earthen dam; it's not 

11 concrete, i t's an earth dam . To me, it's a t i cking 

12 bomb . Not onl y is it on an old ri verbed on nonsoli d 

13 bedrock on nonsolid ground, it's also right next to or 

14 on top of an earthquake faul t. Additionall y, Mormon 

15 Isl and Dam has a known water seepage i s sue. Now at this 

16 poi nt the water is c l ear and not c l oudy but that can 

17 change over time. 

18 My real concern is that the i ncreased pressure 

19 pl aced upon Mormon I sland auxi liary dam by a rai se of 

20 the l ake l evel wi ll lead to a catastrophic fai l ure and 

21 col l apse of the Mormon Island Dam and then all the 

22 houses are downstream - - origi nal ly when the dam was 

23 bui lt in 1948 to 1956, the only thi ng downstream of 

24 Mormon Island Dam were cattle pastures . Now there are 

25 hundreds of homes , thousands of res i dents in the path of 

1 that potential 30-foot wall of water . 

2 so my concern is that why are we conti nui ng 

3 this project knowi ng we have th is t i cki ng bomb? I 

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4 understand there's going to be an engi neering study done 

5 on the bedrock and foundation of Mormon I sland Dam . I 

6 wou ld like a copy of that result sent to me or made 

7 avai l abl e to me. That 's what I have. 

8 PATRICIA GIBBS: Pl ease identify any changes 

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9 to the current federal prope rty l i ne that s u rrounds 

10 Fol som Lake as these changes re l ate to the various 

11 p roposed al ternati ves rega rdi ng rai sing the dam l evel . 

12 Pl ease provi de thi s i nformati on g raphi cally 

13 showi ng contour lines at l ake l evel as wel l as the 

14 surround i ng prope rti es around the l ake. And pl ease 

15 i de ntify any changes to t rail use around Fol som Lake . 

16 ROBERT HOLDERNESS : Agai n, my name is 

17 Robert G. Holderness. I'm the president of the Fol som 

18 Tourism Bureau . I'm a forme r Mayo r of the City of 

19 Fol som , a fo rme r vi ce Mayo r, a former member of the 

20 Fol som city counci l. I'm al so an attorney in private 

21 l aw p racti ce. Tonight I'm appeari ng on behal f of the 

22 Tourism Bu reau . 

23 I have some extensive comments to make 

24 regardi ng the p roposal to c l ose Fol som Poi nt , but to 

25 begi n wi th, I want to put my comments in a hi stori c 

1 context , if you wil l. 

2 To begin with , this is the thi rd time in l ess 

3 than 15 years that Fol som commun i ty, its busi nesses, 

4 have faced the occasion of i r reparable inju ry at the 

5 hands of the Federal Bu reau of Recl amati on. In July 

15 

6 1995, by vi rtue of negligent mai ntenance act i vity at the 

7 Bureau , Gate Number 4 at Fol som Dam b roke and they had 

8 to cl ose the Dam Road for several years to make repairs 

9 that shou ld have been done in the ordi nary course of 

10 busi ness. 

11 In March of 2003, the Bu reau of Recl amat i on 

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12 cl osed Fol som Dam Road and thereby i r reparably i n jured 

13 businesses as wel l as the resi dents of our community, 

14 most parti cularl y in the Historic District, and did so 

15 on the pretense that they were protecting us from 

16 ter rori sm . And now they are proposing to cl ose Fol som 

17 Poi nt fo r a period of seven years by virtue of the 

18 necessity of i mplementing a dam raise program to add 

19 additi onal safety to downstream dwel lers of Fol som Dam. 

20 we ' re not here to argue the merits or demerits 

21 of the overri ding project. I am here to comment upon 

22 the i mpact of that project based on the p roposals that 

23 are before us toni ght . 

24 we a re advi sed by Jeff McCracken t hat the 

25 cl osure of Fol som Point is the worst-case scenari o, 

1 i mplyi ng that it wou ld onl y happen in a worst-case 

2 scenari o; however, we are fu rther advi sed that all fi ve 

3 al ternatives t hat are bei ng consi dered in the scope of 

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4 the EIS contempl ate closing Fol som Poi nt fo r an extended 

5 period of time. 

6 we are further advi sed by a gentl eman named 

7 Frank Piccola -- who is i dentifi ed as the chief of 

8 projects wi thi n the corps of Engi neers - - that the 

9 decision of whether or not to cl ose Fol som Poi nt wi ll be 

10 based on engi neeri ng needs . That is an i ncorrect 

11 statement of the obligations of the Fede ral Government 

12 in general, the corps of Engi neers , and the Bu reau of 

13 Rec l ama tion in particul ar. 

14 Fol som Dam and Fol som Lake were crea ted by act 

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24 tru ncated methodol ogy that 's bei ng used here to 

25 frust rate our ri ght to exerci se our ri ght of freedom of 

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1 as sembly, our ri ght of seeking red ress of g ri evances and 

2 our ri ght of freedom of speech . Al l three of those 

3 ri ghts are rights that are guaranteed us as Ameri can 

4 citizens under the con sti tuti on of the uni ted States 

5 whi ch was adopted in 1787. 

6 By vi rtue of requi ri ng us to ei ther, A, s ubmit 

7 wri tten comment, or 8, subject oursel ves to the awkward 

8 and embarrassing setti ng of havi ng to expl ain our 

9 positi on to a cou rt reporter, who knows nothing of the 

10 subject matter, whose only job is to take down verbatim 

11 the statements made by the persons who are making 

12 s tatements , does not in any way satisfy the obl i gations 

13 of the Bureau of Reclamation or the co rps of Engi neers 

14 under the American consti tution. 

15 They have to meet the precepts of that 

16 constitution j ust like eve rybody el se does . There 's no 

17 exception in the consti tuti on for them . And fo r them to 

18 use thi s truncated method is disrespectful to the 

19 citizens of Fol som , i t 's di s respectful to the busi nesses 

20 of Fol som , it's di s respectful to all of the institutions 

21 of the City of Fol som, incl uding the C i ty Gove rnment , 

22 the Touri sm Bu reau , the Chamber of commerce , et cete ra, 

23 and it 's aston i shi ng to me . 

24 After al l, the Federal Government is our 

25 servant . They work for us . The Bu reau works fo r u s , 

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Folsom Dam S!Jf�ty/Piood Dumage Reduction Action Drdt �n .. ,ronrnental Impact 

Stcitemenf/Dr�ft E:nvironmentallmpact Report (DEIS/DEI.R) 

Name: ��er � G- ftolJ e �W-c55 -Affiliation:' � e-

Address: �I} � (-Ja .. ;:;:J u�L r: ai· I{J�J(Jl_ 

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D I would like my comments to be read aloud 

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1 the Corps of Enginee rs wo rks fo r us . we as Ame rican 

2 citizens are their empl oye r. we pay the taxes that end 

3 up in their pocket as a sal ary and a paycheck . They 

4 need to s how us that they know t hat , that they know that 

5 they're working fo r al l of us rather than showing us how 

6 capabl e they are of ignoring the impo rtant interests of 

7 our community, of our tourist industry, and of our city 

8 gove rnment . 

9 It 's not too l ate to remedy the situati on. 

10 They can do it , we know they can do it because we had 

11 the same probl ems with the bridge c l osure and it was 

12 very difficu lt to get the Bu reau and the Co rps to come 

13 around , but they did come around and now we ' re about to 

14 build a new b ridge bel ow the dam which is a product of a 

15 high-level. a historic l evel of coope ration between the 

16 City of Fol som , the Bureau of Rec l amation, and the Corps 

17 of Enginee rs , and so we know they can do it . 

18 They haven 't done it yet on this p roj ect . we 

19 hope they will understand that these comments a re 

20 serious, they're based in law. They're not meant to be 

21 adve rsarial ; they're meant to get their attention. we 

22 wil l be adve rsarial if we mus t , it 's not our preference . 

23 Thank you . 

24 DON REID: I bel ieve the EIR does not refl ect 

25 the impact on the recreation at Fol som Point and the 

1 corresponding economic impact on the City of Fol som . 

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2 Fol som Point has 800 , 000-plus visitors a year . It 

3 appears that Fol som Poi nt wi ll be shut down or at a 

4 minimum severely impacted. Thi s impact should be 

5 mitigated by relocating the staging and processing areas 

6 or c reating an alternative recreation area during 

7 constructi on that mini mize the recreation impact and the 

8 corresponding economi c i mpact on the City of Folsom and 

9 El Dorado county. 

10 If there a re conflicts between the 

11 const ruction haul roads and the access to Fol som Poi nt 

12 recreation areas or any alte rnative areas , and the 

13 access fo r the publ ic, tempo rary bri dges shoul d be bui lt 

14 over the publ ic access roads for safety reasons . 

15 M.K. VELOZ: I'm M.K. Vel oz of the Northern 

16 cal i fo rni a Marina Association. one of our concerns , 

17 obviousl y, from t he boati ng communi ty is closing off 

18 access to the l ake and that would have , you know , a 

19 terribl e impact on the state's boaters and also of our 

20 businesses . 

21 But another rel ated concern is the fact that 

22 Parks and Recreati on obvi ously operates a facil ity h ere . 

23 If those are closed down for a substanti al amount of 

24 time , they ' re goi ng to lose revenue . And what's 

25 happeni ng now in the state is Parks and Rec reation 

1 through the legislative process is ripping off $27 

2 mi ll ion from the Harbors and watercraft Fund , revolving 

3 fund. 

4 And so t hat money is going out of the Harbors 

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2 Fol som Poi nt has 800 , 000-plus vi sitors a year. It 

3 appea rs that Fo l som Poi nt wi ll be shut down or at a 

4 mi nimum seve rel y i mpacted . This i mpact s hould be 

5 miti gated by rel ocating the staging and processing areas 

6 or creating an al ternative recreation a rea during 

7 construction that mi nimi ze the recreation i mpact and the 

8 cor respondi ng economi c i mpact on the ci ty of Fol som and 

9 El Dorado county . 

10 If there are confl i cts between the 

11 const ruction h aul roads and the access to Fol som Poi nt 

12 recreation a reas or any al te rnati ve a reas , and the 

13 access fo r the publ ic, temporary bri dges should be bui lt 

14 over the publ ic access roads for safety reasons. 

15 M.K. VELOZ : I'm M.K. Veloz of the Northern 

16 Cal i forni a Mari na Associ ati on . One of our concerns , 

17 obvi ousl y, from the boating communi ty is closing off 

18 access to the l ake and that woul d have , you know , a 

19 terri ble i mpact on the state 's boaters and also of our 

20 busi nesses . 

21 But another rel ated concern is the fact that 

22 Parks and Recreation obvi ously ope rates a facility here . 

23 If those are c l osed down fo r a substanti al amount of 

24 time , they ' re goi ng to l ose revenue . And what's 

25 happening now in the state is Parks and Recreation 

1 th rough the l egi slative p rocess is ri ppi ng off $27 

2 mi l l i on f rom the Harbors and waterc raft Fund , revolving 

3 fund . 

4 And so that money is going out of the Harbors 

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5 and watercraft Fund whi ch funds faci l i ties like new 

6 ma rina deve l opments or refurbi shing of mari nas , programs 

7 and things like that . If Parks l oses more money , goes 

8 after more of the funds , there 's a cas cading effect that 

9 i mpacts not on ly thi s area but faci liti es al l ove r the 

10 state , so I just wanted to get that point down . 

11 One more thi ng : An i dea that I've heard 

12 expressed here is that you fol ks hold a forum wi th some 

13 of the stakeholders and the i nterest g roups and come up 

14 wi th soluti ons , because I think some of the people that 

15 actual ly operate busi nesses up here and use the lake 

16 have some i deas about how to l essen some of the i mpact 

17 so that it would work better for them and fo r everyone . 

18 so I woul d encou rage that you do that. 

19 VICTOR BECERRIL: Bas i cal ly, I'm in favor of 

20 al l the changes that a re bei ng made , the spi llway, the 

21 raised l evel , on top of that . But the one thing I'm 

22 real ly concerned with is Fol som Point, the closing of 

23 the park there to use in pl ace of the equi pment purposes 

24 that is bei ng tal ked about . That 's basi cal ly my 

25 comment. 

1 KENT ZENOBIA: I woul d like to comment as a 

2 resi dent that could be potenti al ly signi fi cantly 

3 i mpacted by the p roposed alte rnati ves presented on the 

24 

4 poster boards here toni ght . I al so have a backg round in 

5 civil and envi ronmental engi neeri ng and am a regi stered 

6 engi neer in cal i fornia and in nine other states. I'm 

7 currently worki ng on the l evy reconst ruct i on projects 

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Stciten\ enf j(roft En vi ronrriental lm pad Report (DE IS /0 El RJ 

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5 and watercraft Fund which funds faciliti es like new 

6 ma rina devel opments or refurbi shing of mari nas , prog rams 

7 and things li ke that. If Parks l oses more money , goes 

8 after more of the funds, t here 's a cascadi ng effect that 

9 impacts not only this area but faci lities al l over the 

10 state , so I just wanted to get that point down . 

11 One more thing: An idea that I've heard 

12 expressed here is that you folks hold a forum with some 

13 of the stakehol ders and t he interest groups and come up 

14 wi th sol uti ons , because I think some of the peopl e that 

15 actual ly ope rate bus i nesses up here and use the l ake 

16 have some i deas about how to l es sen some of the i mpact 

17 so that it would work better for them and for eve ryone . 

18 so I would e ncourage that you do that . 

19 VICTOR BECERRIL: Bas i cal ly, I'm in favor of 

20 al l the changes that a re being made , the spi llway , the 

21 rai sed l evel , on top of that . But the one thing I'm 

22 real ly concerned wi th is Fol som Poi nt , the closing of 

23 the park there to use in pl ace of the equi pment purposes 

24 that is bei ng talked about . That 's basi cal ly my 

25 comment. 

1 KENT ZENOBIA: I would like to comment as a 

2 resident that could be potentially signi fi cantly 

3 impacted by the proposed alternat i ves presented on the 

24 

4 poster boards here tonight. I also have a background in 

5 c i vil and environmental engineering and am a regi stered 

6 engineer in california and in nine other states. I'm 

7 currentl y working on t he levy reconstruction projects 

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D I would like my com.ments to be read aloud 

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5 and waterc raft Fund wh i ch funds faci liti es like new 

6 mari na devel opments or refu rbi shing of mari nas , p rog rams 

7 and things like that . If Parks l oses mo re money, goes 

8 after mo re of the funds , there 's a cascadi ng effect that 

9 i mpacts not on ly this a rea but faci l i ties al l ove r the 

10 state , so I j u st wanted to get that poi nt down . 

11 One more thi ng: An i dea that I ' ve h eard 

12 expressed here is that you fol ks hold a fo rum with some 

13 of the stakeholders and the i nterest g roups and come up 

14 wi th sol uti ons , because I thi nk some of the people that 

15 actual ly ope rate busi nesses up here and use the l ake 

16 have some i deas about how to l essen some of the i mpact 

17 so that it would work better fo r them and fo r eve ryone . 

18 so I would encou rage that you do that . 

19 VICTOR BECERRI L: Basi cal ly, I'm in favo r of 

20 al l the c hanges that are bei ng made , the spi llway , the 

21 rai sed l evel , on top of that . But the one thi ng I'm 

22 real ly concerned with is Fol som Poi nt , the closing of 

23 the park there to use in pl ace of the equi pment pu rposes 

24 that is bei ng tal ked about . That 's basi cal ly my 

25 comment . 

1 KENT ZENOBIA : I would like to comment as a 

2 resi dent that could be potential ly signi fi cant ly 

3 i mpacted by the proposed alternati ves presented on the 

24 

4 poster boards here tonight . I al so have a background in 

5 civil and envi ronmental engi nee ring and am a regi stered 

6 engineer in cal i fornia and in nine other states . I'm 

7 cu rrent ly wo rki ng on the l evy recon struction proj ects 

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8 wi th the Department of water Resou rces and the A rmy 

9 corps of Engineers . so I'm fami lia r with how these 

10 acti vi ties would occur and the detai ls of how they would 

11 be conducted . 

12 Fi rst, I'd like to poi nt out that on this 

13 "Proposed Al ternat ives" poster board over here that 

14 Alternat i ve 3 does not clearl y i ndi cate t hat it would 

15 i nclude the ove rl ay to Mormon Island Dam whi ch would 

16 al so t he reby have a maj or i mpact on the Fol som Poi nt 

17 recreati on area and the boat l aunch . 

18 one of the gentl emen over he re , John wi l son 

19 wi th Recl amati on, i ndi cated that the poster summary 

20 appeared to contai n a s ho rtfal l in the bu l l ets that were 

21 l i sted under the particular al ternati ves . Although it 

22 has shown up l ater on the l ower right -hand corner of 

23 e l ements common to a l l alternati ves , it's not real clear 

24 fo r the publ ic to recogni ze these alternati ves i ncl ude 

25 potentially maj or i mpacts to Fol som Poi nt rec reation 

25 

1 area, boat l aunch , park , the i mmedi ate nei ghbo rhood , and 

2 residences . 

3 Poi nt Number 2: I would like to see a water 

4 haul al ternati ve using barges to carry the fi ll from the 

5 proposed spillway excavation l ocation over to the Mo rmon 

6 Isl and Dam sei smi c upg rade l ocati on. Th is fi l l -hauling 

7 alte rnati ve wou ld al so requi re short truck h auls to 

8 carry the rock from the excavation site to the barge and 

9 then from the barge to the fi ll l ocation on Mo rmon 

10 Island Dam . 

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11 In addition, conveyors could be implemented to 

12 deliver the fi ll materi al to the speci fi c l ocation on 

13 Mormon Island Dam where it would then be wo rked in wi th 

14 heavy t rack equi pment like bul l dozers and compacto rs . I 

15 suspect thi s could potent i ally be ve ry cost -effecti ve 

16 and may avoid a l ot of the expense of the p roposed 

17 coffer dams , haul roads , l ong t ruck route construction , 

18 truck t raffi c, l abor and envi ronmental i mpacts to the 

19 Folsom Poi nt rec reati onal area , and othe r i mpacts to the 

20 residences and church . 

21 It appears that the resi dences , the church , 

22 new comme rci al faci lit ies, and new homes in the 

23 i mmedi ate area al ong Natoma St reet and Briggs Ranch wi ll 

24 be signifi cantly i mpacted by the red construction zone 

25 shown on the maps that depi ct the coffer dams and haul 

1 routes over to Mormon Island Dam . These i mpacts should 

2 also be considered when judged against a water haul and 

3 barge route from the excavat i on site to Mormon Isl and 

4 Dam . 

5 Fo r exampl e, as a civi l engi neer on the DWR 

6 and A rmy Co rps l evy projects , we ' ve eval uated the 

7 ba rgi ng of maj or tonnages of fi ll mate ri al s to repai r 

8 the l evees fo r the state of Cal i forni a. we found barge 

9 hauling was signifi cantly cheaper than t ruck hau l s to 

10 repai r these l evi es. 

11 In addi tion, Po i nt Numbe r 3 is that these 

12 alternatives don't clearly depi ct here what appears to 

13 be maj or impacts to the Folsom Poi nt rec reation area . 

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14 the park, and the boat l aunch . I thi nk there 's about a 

15 thousand homes that are in thi s i mmedi ate vi cinity. The 

16 residents, i nc l udi ng students and the publ ic, use Fol som 

17 Poi nt si nce it's literal ly on the other side of Natoma 

18 street . 

19 In addition, there are a l ot of fami lies that 

20 go over to the pa rk , wal k ove r there in the park wi th 

21 thei r pets and thei r chil d ren . And al so , there a re many 

22 fami lies that si mpl y dri ve across Natoma St reet from 

23 Bri ggs Ranch to l aunch thei r boats at the Fol som Poi nt 

24 boat l aunch . It is a signifi cant featu re fo r the 

25 resi dents in the nei ghbo rhood , and I'd like that to be 

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1 cons i de red highly when the fi nal decisions are made wi th 

2 regard to the most approp ri ate al ternative . 

3 The i mpacts of shutting down Fol som Poi nt fo r 

4 extended pe riods of time , whi ch I unde rstand could be 

5 from one to seven years , wou ld be a major negative 

6 i mpact to the resi dents in our community. I app reci ate 

7 you considering these comments and hope they can be 

8 eval uated in the EIR process . Thank you . 

9 KRIS GARDNER: I'm wishing to go on record to 

10 have the Fol som Poi nt Di ke 8 remai n open during thi s 

11 construction project ; that the estimated seven-year time 

12 would be a huge i mpact to the recreati onal aspects of 

13 the boat ramping areas . And the additi onal i mpact to 

14 B rown 's Ravi ne and others around the l ake wou ld be 

15 exces sive , so Dike 8 j ust must stay open fo r the amount 

16 of boaters that have come to use the l ake from a round 

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14 the park, and the boat l aunch . I thi nk there 's about a 

15 thousand homes that are in thi s i mmedi ate vi cinity. The 

16 resi dents , i ncludi ng students and the publ ic, use Fol som 

17 Poi nt s i nce it's literal ly on the other side of Natoma 

18 St reet . 

19 In add i tion , there are a l ot of fami lies that 

20 go ove r to the park, wal k over there in the park wi th 

21 their pets and thei r chil d ren . And al so , there are many 

22 families that simply d rive across Natoma St reet from 

23 Briggs Ranch to launch their boats at the Fol som Point 

24 boat l aunch . It is a signifi cant feature for the 

25 resi dents in the neighbo rhood , and I'd like that to be 

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1 considered highly when the fi nal deci sions are made wi th 

2 regard to the most appropri ate alternati ve . 

3 The i mpacts of shutting down Fol som Poi nt fo r 

4 extended periods of time , whi ch I unde rstand could be 

5 from one to seven years , woul d be a major negati ve 

6 i mpact to the residents in our communi ty. I app reci ate 

7 you considering these comments and hope they can be 

8 eval uated in the EIR p rocess . Thank you. 

9 KRIS GARDNER: I'm wi shi ng to go on record to 

10 have the Fol som Poi nt Di ke 8 remai n open during this 

11 construction proj ect ; that the esti mated seven -year time 

12 would be a huge i mpact to the recreati onal aspects of 

13 the boat rampi ng a reas . And the additional i mpact to 

14 B rown 's Ravi ne and others around the l ake would be 

15 excessive, so Di ke 8 just must stay open fo r the amount 

16 of boaters that have come to use the l ake from a round 

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17 the regi on. The g rowth of Fol som has been so huge that 

18 there's an enormous amo unt of use of the boat ramps . 

19 And even n ow, Dike 8 on a summe r day , the 

20 l i nes wai tin g to l aunch there and at B rown 's Rav i ne are 

21 enormous . So you wo u l d n 't even be able to get out on 

22 the l ake , it wo uld take you hours to do it if that one 

23 went away . So if you can fi nd a d i ffe rent way of 

24 staging, that would be real ly good . 

25 TAYLOR ZENOB IA : Hel lo. My name is Taylor 

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1 Zenobia, and I'm a n i ne-year-ol d fourth-g rade student at 

2 Fol som H i lls S chool and resi dent in Briggs Ranch . I ' m 

3 al so a Student counci l offi cer at Fol som Hi lls School in 

4 Bri ggs Ranch , and I'm sure all of our school would like 

5 to be abl e to keep goi ng to Fol som Poi nt . 

6 I like to go to Fol som Po i nt often wi th our 

7 dog and wa lk him by the l ake . our s chool al so has fi eld 

8 tri ps to the l ake and I hope that this acti vity wi ll 

9 al l ow us to keep goi ng there th roughout the rest of the 

10 yea r s . Plus , there a re a l ot of wi ldl i fe and fl owe rs 

11 that you can see in the summe rtime and I think that that 

12 makes the l a ke a very spec i al pl ace that we should be 

13 abl e to go to . 

14 SARAH GRI FFITH : As a recr eati onal t rai l user 

15 of the t r ails a round the l ake , one of my mai n concerns 

16 about the project is that the trails, when the p r oject 

17 is fi n i shed , be l e ft in a way that they are sti ll u s abl e 

18 in the way that they can be us ed now by horses . by 

19 h i kers . and by bi cycle riders . 

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17 the region. The g rowth of Fol som has been so huge that 

18 there 's an enormous amount of use of the boat ramps . 

19 And even now , Di ke 8 on a s umme r day , the 

20 lines wai ting to l aunch there and at B rown 's Ravi ne are 

21 enormous . so you woul dn 't even be abl e to get out on 

22 the l ake , it would take you hours to do it if that one 

23 went away . So if you can fi nd a d i ffe rent way of 

24 stagi ng , that wou ld be real ly good . 

25 TAYLOR ZENOBIA : Hel lo. My name is Tayl or 

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1 Zenobi a, and I'm a ni ne-year-old fou rth-g rade student at 

2 Fol som Hi lls School and resi dent in Bri ggs Ranch . I'm 

3 al so a Student counci l offi ce r at Fol som Hi lls School in 

4 Briggs Ranch , and I'm sure a l l of our s chool would like 

5 to be abl e to keep goi ng to Fol som Poi nt . 

6 I like to go to Fol som Poi nt often wi th our 

7 dog and wal k him by the l ake . Our s chool al so has fi eld 

8 t r i ps to the l ake and I hope that th is activi ty wi ll 

9 al l ow us to keep goi ng there th roughout the rest of the 

10 years . Pl u s , there are a l ot of wi ldlife and fl owe rs 

11 that you can see in the summerti me and I think that that 

12 makes the l ake a very special pl ace that we shou ld be 

13 abl e to go to . 

14 SARAH GRIFFITH : As a recreati onal t rail user 

15 of the t rails a round the l ake , one of my mai n concerns 

16 about the project is that the t rails, when the p roject 

17 is fi ni shed , be l eft in a way that they a re sti ll usable 

18 in the way that they can be used now by horses , by 

19 hikers , and by bicycle ri ders . 

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17 the region. The g rowth of Fol som has been so huge that 

18 there 's an eno rmous amount of use of the boat ramps . 

19 And even now , Di ke 8 on a s umme r day , the 

20 lines wai ting to l aunch there and at B rown 's Ravi ne are 

21 enormous . so you wouldn 't even be abl e to get out on 

22 the l ake , it wou ld take you hours to do it if that one 

23 went away. So if you can fi nd a di ffe rent way of 

24 stagi ng , that would be real ly good . 

25 TAYLOR ZENOBIA: Hel lo. My name is Taylor 

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1 Zenobia, and I'm a ni ne-year-ol d fou rth-g rade student at 

2 Fol som Hi lls school and resident in Bri ggs Ranch . I'm 

3 al so a student Counci l offi cer at Fol som Hi lls School in 

4 Briggs Ranch , and I'm sure al l of our school would like 

5 to be abl e to keep goi ng to Fol som Poi nt . 

6 I like to go to Fol som Poi nt often wi th our 

7 dog and wal k him by the l ake . our school al so has fi eld 

8 tri ps to the l ake and I hope that thi s activity wi ll 

9 al l ow us to keep goi ng there t h roughout the rest of the 

10 years . Plus , there are a l ot of wi l dlife and fl owe rs 

11 that you can see in the summe rti me and I thi nk that that 

12 makes the l ake a very speci al pl ace that we should be 

13 abl e to go to . 

14 SARAH GRI FFITH : As a recreati onal trai l user 

15 of the t rai ls a round the l ake , one of my mai n concerns 

16 about the p roj ect is that the t rai ls, when the p roj ect 

17 is fi ni shed , be l eft in a way that they a re sti ll usable 

18 in the way that they can be u sed now by horses , by 

19 h i kers , and by bi cycle ri ders . 

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20 Another concern I have is that if there was a 

21 1-in-200-year flooding event and that the water l evel 

22 came up and possibly temporaril y touched the t rai ls, 

23 that the trails woul d be abl e to be restored to a usable 

24 rec reati onal condition . And I'm also concerned that the 

25 project not negatively i mpact the publ i c's use of this 

1 area al so fo r boati ng and fo r hiki ng, bi cycl e ri di ng, 

2 and anything that peopl e a re doi ng wi th t his. 

3 The other thi ng I'm s l ightly conce rned about 

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4 is that I don 't know the s pecifics of the geol ogy of the 

5 area where they a re goi ng to be di ggi ng the spi l l way , 

6 but there 's a l ot of serpenti ne rock in some areas of 

7 the foothi lls such as El Dorado County , and I would be 

8 concerned about potent i ally disturbing se rpentine rock 

9 and c reating extra asbestos exposure fo r both the people 

10 wo rki ng on the site and for the peopl e livi ng in the 

11 area and dri vi ng th rough the area. And I would hope 

12 that the B u reau of Recl amation and the corps would have 

13 some sort of system to deal wi th t hat so the publ ic 

14 would not be exposed to extra asbestos because it's 

15 dange rou s . 

16 And I haven 't studi ed the enti re document yet , 

17 but I wou ld be hopi ng that if the spillway , the proposed 

18 spillway that they want to do was opened to rel ease 

19 extra water fl ow , that there would be some sort of 

20 public warn i ng system for the people downst ream so they 

21 wouldn't accidental ly get caught in an extra water flow 

22 and we wouldn't be having peopl e getti ng fl ooded , 

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23 acci dental ly d rowning . so somethi ng like a si ren or 

24 somethi ng would be a good i dea to consider. 

25 (Publ ic Hearing was adj ourned at 9:3 1 p.m.) 

1 CERTI FICATE OF REPORTER 

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3 I, SHERR! STARR , a Ce rti fi ed Sho rthand 

4 Reporte r, he reby certify that sai d p roceedi ng was taken 

5 in shorthand by me , a disi nte rested pe rson , at the time 

6 and pl ace therein stated , and that the p roceedi ng was 

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7 the reafter reduced to typewri ting, by computer, unde r my 

8 di recti on and s upe rvi sion ; 

9 I fu rther certify that I am not of counsel or 

10 attorney fo r either or any of the parti es to the said 

11 proceedi ng , nor in any way i nte rested in the event of 

12 thi s cause , and that I am not rel ated to any of the 

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