1 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION OFFICE OF HEARINGS 

# RECEIVED IN THE MATTER OF: FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, 

### FEB -7 2014 

## HEARING DOCKET Complainant,

V. FDMS No. FAA-2013-0047 FACILITY SOLUTIONS INC., Respondent.

Thursday, January 23, 2014 Via Teleconference The above-entitled matter came on, pursuant to notice, at 1:30 p.m., Eastern Time.

BEFORE:

(202) 234-4433 THE HONORABLE J.E. SULLIVAN, Administrative Law Judge

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On Behalf of the Complainant: BRIAN K. KHAN, ESQ. Office of the Regional Counsel Federal Aviation Administration 2300 East Devon Avenue, AGL-7H Des Plaines, IL 60018 (847) 294-7652

On Behalf of the Respondent: ROY J. TRANSIT, ESQ. P.O. Box 1578 Royal Oak, MI 48068-1578 (586) 491-6822

Also Present:

(202) 234-4433 CODY L. SMITH

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1 P-R-0-C-E-E-D-I-N-G-S 2 1:32 p.m. 3 JUDGE SULLIVAN: We are ln the 4 record in the matter of Facility Solutions, 5 Inc. This is Docket No. FAA-2013-0047. 6 Today is Thursday, January 23, 7 2014, and the parties have convened by 8 telephone for a pre-hearing conference. 9 The FAA is represented by its 10 attorney of record, Brian K. Kahn. The 11 Respondent, Facility Solutions, Inc., lS 12 represented by its attorney or record, Roy J. 13 Transit. 14 Also present at the Office of 15 Hearings today, sitting ln as an observer 16 only, is Mr. Cody L. Smith, an attorney 17 advisor with this office. 18 Good afternoon, everybody. Before 19 we JUmp into specifics, I'll quickly note that 20 the last time we convened was on June 6, 2013. 21 At that time, the parties appeared by 22 telephone for a Rule 16 litigation scheduling

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### 1 conference. 2 

### That same day, after the 3 conference was concluded, an order setting 4 litigation dates and procedures was filed and 5 served upon the parties, basically, codified 6 in writing all the agreements the parties had 7 made orally during the conference. 8 As part of those agreements, there 9 was a conference scheduled for today' s date 10 and time, essentially, to address any types of 11 prehearing dispositive motions. 12 According to my records, that has 13 been filed. As a result, this conference has 14 been automatically diverted to a prehearing 15 status conference, pursuant to the June 6,2013 16 order. 17 

### Mr. Khan, why don't I start with 18 

### you. Can you give me, ln general, the status 19 

### of the case. Are the parties ready to go to 20 trial, or are there pending matters that we 21 need to address for your client? 22 MR. KHAN: Okay, Your Honor.

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### Mr. Transit and I, we're currently 2 trying to come to a settlement to avoid going 3 

### forward with the hearing. So, that's, 4 basically, where we are at at the moment. 5 

### JUDGE SULLIVAN: Okay. Can you 6 

### give me an idea if there is a general timeline 7 

### that you might have that I could, at least in 8 

### terms of setting another prehearing conference 9 

### just to check in with the parties? 10 

### MR. KHAN : You are looking for a 11 

### date, Your Honor? 12 

### JUDGE SULLIVAN: I'm giving I 13 

### want to get an idea if you are finalizing 14 

### something that's in hand, or if this is merely 15 

### a process at this point. I mean, can you give 16 

### me, without discussing the settlement terms, 17 

### any idea of whether or not you have a time 18 

### frame for reaching settlement? 19 

### MR. KHAN: If I can get the input 20 

### of Mr. Transit on this, Your Honor. 21 

### JUDGE SULLIVAN: Okay. Mr. 22 Transit, can you identify any type of time

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### So, in knowing that, what I can do 2 now is defer that staff work until after 3 February 20, 2014, in the event that it's not 4 necessary. 5 MR. TRANSIT: Would you like us to 6 call you on the 2l"t, 

### after we meet, and 7 inform you as to where we are at? Or, should 8 we give it maybe a week, Judge, we've met on

10 JUDGE SULLIVAN: What I'm thinking 11 

### is that, I could, potentially, schedule, 12 looking at the calendar, your current trial 13 

### date is set for April 8th 

### and 9th. 

### That gives 14 me, looking at my calendar, what might work 15 best is if I just set another telephone 16 conference either the last week of February or 17 the first week of March. 18 

### And, potentially, you will have 19 either filed settlement papers, or you can 20 notify me what stipulations you may have 21 reached, if any, before you go to trial, based 22 on your settlement conference.

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### I don't want to misuse counsel's 2 time, but I think that might be helpful. 3 MR. TRANSIT: Agreed. 4 

### JUDGE SULLIVAN: Now, Mr. Khan, 5 

### starting with you, and I'm going to look at my 6 

### calendar as I say this, I have

-- I'm in trial 7 

### already the week of March 3rd 

### through 7th, 

### so 8 

### why don't we look at the week of March-- I'm 9 

### sorry, February 24 

### through the 27th. 10 

### And, Mr. Khan, do you have any 11 

### blackout dates that week that would prevent 12 

### you from reconvening for a 

### telephone 13 

### conference in this case? 14 

### MR. KHAN: No, I don't, Your Honor. 15 

### JUDGE SULLIVAN: Okay. Mr. 16 Transit, how about you, any blackout time? 17 

### MR. TRANSIT: No, nothing. 18 

### JUDGE SULLIVAN: Okay. Why don't 19 we do this, why don't we plan on Wednesday, 20 

### the 27th, 

### at about 1:30. 

### Would that work for 21 

### you, Mr. Khan? 22

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### MR. KHAN: Yes, Your Honor, is that

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1 Eastern? 2 JUDGE SULLIVAN: Yes, I'm sorry. 3 I'm in D.C. right now, so I'm just thinking in 4 terms of Eastern Time. 5 MR. KHAN: Okay, 1:30, that works. 6 JUDGE SULLIVAN: Okay. And, Mr. 7 Transit, how about you? Does that work for 8 you as well? 9 MR. TRANSIT: Yes, this early I can 10 get into my books and keep it. 11 JUDGE SULLIVAN: Then I will reset 12 this matter for Wednesday, February 26, 2013 13 at 1:30 p.m., Eastern Time. 14 And then, if you reach a 15 settlement and want to file papers prior to 16 that, that's great. I can always cancel the 17 conference if it comes ln in time. 18 If you aren't able to reach a 19 settlement, sometimes people do, and sometimes 20 people don't, we will then have a chance to do 21 a final prehearing conference, and see if 22 there are ways that the parties have found to

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### 1 either narrow the issues or make the trial as 2 fast, cheap and easy as possible for 3 everybody, because I'm really dedicated to 4 

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### it's 5 

### appropriate for the parties. 6 

### With that, Mr. Khan, on behalf of 7 

### your client, is there anything else that I can 8 

### address for you today in this conference? 9 

### MR. KHAN: No, nothing I can think 10 of, Your Honor. 11 JUDGE SULLIVAN: Okay. Mr. 12 Transit, on behalf of your client, anything I 13 can address for you? 14 MR. TRANSIT: No. 15 JUDGE SULLIVAN: Okay. Then I will 16 wish you both good luck in your settlement 17 conference next month in Chicago, Illinois. 18 And, I will look forward to either hearing 19 

### from you with documentation after the 20 conference, or by convening by telephone on 21 Wednesday, February 26, 2014, at 1:30 Eastern. 22 And, I will say that, and an order

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### 11 1 codifying that in writing, so that you have it 2 for your file. 3 

### With that, we can go off the 4 record, and I wish you all a good day. 5 

### Thank you so much. 6 

### MR. KHAN: Thank you, Your Honor. 7 

### MR. TRANSIT: Thank you. 8 

### JUDGE SULLIVAN: All right, bye9 bye. 10 MR. KHAN: Bye. 11 MR. TRANSIT: Bye-bye. 12 

### (Whereupon, the above-entitled 13 matter was concluded at 1:41 p.m.) 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 

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C E R T I F I C A T E

This is to certify that the foregoing transcript

In the matter of: Facility Solutions, Inc.

Before: us DOT

Date: 01-23-14

Place: teleconference

was duly recorded and accurately transcribed under my direction; further, that said transcript is a true and accurate record of the proceedings.

Court Reporter

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