Exhibit 99.4
                            Certification Pursuant to
                  Section 302 of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002

I, Philip C. Wentzel, certify that:

     1.   I have  reviewed  this  quarterly  report  on  Form  10Q  of IDS  Life
          Insurance Company;

     2.   Based on my  knowledge,  this  quarterly  report  does not contain any
          untrue  statement of a material  fact or omit to state a material fact
          necessary to make the statements  made, in light of the  circumstances
          under which such  statements are made, not misleading  with respect to
          the period covered by this quarterly report;

     3.   Based on my knowledge,  the financial statements,  and other financial
          information  included in this quarterly report,  fairly present in all
          material respects the financial  condition,  results of operations and
          cash flows of the registrant as of, and for, the periods  presented in
          this quarterly report;

     4.   The registrant's  other certifying  officers and I are responsible for
          establishing  and maintaining  disclosure  controls and procedures (as
          defined in Exchange  Act Rules  13a-14 and 15d-14) for the  registrant
          and have:

          a)   designed such  disclosure  controls and procedures to ensure that
               material  information  relating to the registrant,  including its
               consolidated  subsidiaries,  is made known to us by others within
               those  entities,  particularly  during  the  period in which this
               quarterly report is being prepared;

          b)   evaluated  the  effectiveness  of  the  registrant's   disclosure
               controls and  procedures as of a date within 90 days prior to the
               filing date of this quarterly report (the "Evaluation Date"); and

          c)   presented  in this  quarterly  report our  conclusions  about the
               effectiveness of the disclosure  controls and procedures based on
               our evaluation as of the Evaluation Date;

     5.   The registrant's other certifying officers and I have disclosed, based
          on our most recent  evaluation,  to the registrant's  auditors and the
          audit  committee  of  registrant's   board  of  directors  (or  person
          performing the equivalent functions):

          a)   all  significant  deficiencies  in the  design  or  operation  of
               internal  controls which could adversely  affect the registrant's
               ability to record,  process,  summarize and report financial data
               and have  identified for the  registrant's  auditors any material
               weaknesses in internal controls; and
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          b)   any fraud,  whether or not material,  that involves management or
               other employees who have a significant  role in the  registrant's
               internal controls; and

     6.   The  registrant's  other  certifying  officers and I have indicated in
          this quarterly report whether or not there were significant changes in
          internal controls or in other factors that could significantly  affect
          internal   controls   subsequent  to  the  date  of  our  most  recent
          evaluation,   including   any   corrective   actions  with  regard  to
          significant deficiencies and material weaknesses.



                                          /s/ Philip C. Wentzel
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                                    Name:     Philip C. Wentzel
                                    Title:    Vice President and Controller
                                    Date:     November 14, 2002