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Date: 03/21/12 Time: 4:20 am

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Company Name: Alabama DEM ERG Staff Name: Kimberly Landick

Contact Name: Lee Warren Contact Phone Number: (334) 271-7927

General Subject: Brick Manufacturing Process

TOPICS DISCUSSED AND ACTION TAKEN

On March 21, 2012 I contacted Michael McCary and asked to speak with someone who is familiar with the 

brick manufacturing process, specifically permitting with Henry Brick Co. He stated that Doti (Dorothy) 

Moseley would be the best person to talk to (334-271-7725). 

I called Ms. Moseley and explained that I would like to know whether the brick manufacturing process is a dry 

process or not and how the facility is being permitted. She told me she would look into it and get back to me 

shortly.

On April 3, 2012 I called Ms. Moseley back. She stated that their general permit is just a standard template 

(ALG-23) and that if a facility has any other discharges besides what is covered in the template; they will get an 

individual permit. She suggested putting less information into the ADEM website search to look for other 

permits. She then transferred me to her supervisor, Lee Warren. 

Ms. Warren told me that their general permit for Stone, Glass & Clay covers stormwater and non-contact 

cooling water. If a facility had process wastewater discharges, they need to get an individual permit. She stated 

that sometimes facilities will have a general permit for stormwater and then a SID (State Indirect Discharge) 

permit for processed water. An SID permit allows a facility to discharge processed water to a POTW. She 

scanned their database for brick manufacturing facilities and did not find any with an SID or individual permit. 

Therefore, she believes that the process is a dry manufacturing process. She came across Jenkins Brick 

Company which is a large brick company (http://www.jenkinsbrick.com/) and they had an individual permit for 

mining but not for industrial wastewater. Ms. Warren told me that she would look into the database further and 

call me back if they find anything; otherwise she assumes that it is a dry process. 

Ms. Warren called me back on April 4, 2012. She told me that she looked through their database for any 

individual permits for brick manufacturing facilities. She was not able to find any individual permits for 

wastewater for brick manufacturing. She did find numerous individual permits covering the mining aspects of 

brick companies (quarry operations) but these are separate from the manufacturing plant and would not be 

affected by the air regulation. She only found general permits for stormwater discharges. Their general permit 

for Stone, Glass & Clay regulates pH, TSS and rainfall (it also includes a footnote stating that there shall be no 

discharges of stormwater with debris or a sheen). Ms. Warren also checked with ADEM’s pretreatment 

coordinator and there are no brick manufacturers with SID permits (discharging process water to a POTW). For 

these reasons, Ms. Warren stated that she believes that the process is a dry process with solids being the only 

possible issue in wastewater. She is also interested to know if we find any unregulated discharges.

Ms. Warren is part of the Industrial General Permits Section at ADEM; her number is 334-271-7845.