Re: Today's call 

Dan Bivins to: Jeff Ryan 10/04/2012 09:42 AM

Cc: Sarah Marshall, Charles Hall, David Ogulei, Kim Garnett

This is a response from a question to Pall about their HAP Metals CEMS probe.

Dan, 

Lilly didn't request a transport system with their Xact 640 purchase. We were asked to modify our stilling 

chamber to subsample from a PM CEMS transport system from Europe. CES sold 3 other Xact 640 

systems (1- 2004, 2-2007) all to the US Army. I designed and installed the transports systems for each of 

those units. We made a lot of progress on our transport design between 04 and 07. Larry Wells in 

Tooele, UT was real happy with the changes he saw with his 2007 installation. 

Pall has partnered with the major probe supplier for the CAMR Hg CEMS installs back in 2009. We 

co-developed a probe to meet our specific needs and have taken delivery of that transport system for the 

Xact 645 (Hg CEMS). This will be our standard offering for meeting PS-12A. 

The Xact 640 Multi-Metals CEMS transport builds on the information learned by CES. The Pall fluid 

dynamics team has tested two systems on CFPP for multi-metals. This is our HAP Metals CEMS 

transport systems for EGU MAT and any other compliance application for multiple metals. 

We are in the process of collecting the 30 days of continuous data testing our HAP Metals CEMS 

Performance Specification. Connie Sue requested this data for the broadly approved application of our 

CEMS. We would appreciate your feed back on our HAP Metals CEMS PS to meet the EGU MAT 

alternative monitoring approach. As I told Connie Sue at the ICAC meeting we will have this PS to you 

this Fall. 

Regards, 

Douglas C. Barth

Pall Corporation Power Generation Group

Business Development Manager 

Emissions Monitoring Products

2118 Greenspring Dr. 

Timonium, MD 21093

cell: 860-576-2409

Jeff Ryan How about I handle the Pall call and you guys ha... 10/02/2012 12:05:09 PM

From: Jeff Ryan/RTP/USEPA/US

To: Sarah Marshall/R5/USEPA/US@EPA

Cc: Charles Hall/R5/USEPA/US@EPA, Dan Bivins/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA, David 

Ogulei/R5/USEPA/US@EPA, Kim Garnett/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA

Date: 10/02/2012 12:05 PM

Subject: Re: Today's call

How about I handle the Pall call and you guys handle the Evonik call?

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 Jeff Ryan

 U.S. Environmental Protection Agency

 Office of Research and Development

 National Risk Management Research Laboratory

 Air Pollution Prevention and Control Division

 Air Pollution Technology Branch

 109 T.W. Alexander Drive

 Mail Drop E305-01

 Research Triangle Park, NC 27711

 (919) 541-1437 (919) 541-0554 FAX

 "And all this science, I don't understand." 

 "It's just my job 5 days a week"

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Sarah Marshall I agree that we would like to talk to Pall. I am ha... 10/02/2012 11:26:05 AM

From: Sarah Marshall/R5/USEPA/US

To: Jeff Ryan/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA

Cc: Charles Hall/R5/USEPA/US@EPA, Dan Bivins/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA, David 

Ogulei/R5/USEPA/US@EPA, Kim Garnett/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA

Date: 10/02/2012 11:26 AM

Subject: Re: Today's call

I agree that we would like to talk to Pall. I am happy to set that up if you are busy, otherwise you can go 

ahead. We would also be interested in following up with Evonik about why they stopped using it. I can 

set that call up or you can. Just let me know.

Thanks again for setting today's call up. I thought it was very useful.

Sarah Marshall

Environmental Engineer

Air Enforcement and Compliance Assurance Branch

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Region 5

312-886-6797

Jeff Ryan Good and informative call. I do think the next ste... 10/02/2012 10:06:24 AM

From: Jeff Ryan/RTP/USEPA/US

To: Sarah Marshall/R5/USEPA/US@EPA, 

Cc: Charles Hall/R5/USEPA/US@EPA, Dan Bivins/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA, David 

Ogulei/R5/USEPA/US@EPA, Kim Garnett/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA

Date: 10/02/2012 10:06 AM

Subject: Re: Today's call

Good and informative call.

I do think the next step, if you're interested, is to speak with Doug Barth at Pall who now markets the 

system. John Cooper now only markets the QAG. I'm happy to set that up or provide you the info to do 

so.

Jeff