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. EPA/OAQPS/ESD/WCP G ES D Projec t

No
. 96/0 5 Bern dHaneke/Gre g LaFla m"&& M£> Pacifi c Environmenta l Services , Inc
. Jun e 16,199 9 SUBJECT : Jun e 9,199 9 meetin g wit h th e Nationa l Pain t an dCoating s Associatio n (NPCA )
I . Purpos e Th e purpos e ofthi s meetin g wa s t o mee t with th e Nationa l Pain t

an dCoating s Associatio n (NPCA ) t o discus s it s concern s regardin g th e developmen t ofth e Organi c Liquid s Distributio n MACT/NESHAP
. Th e NPC A requeste dt o mee t with th e EP A o n Jun e 2, 199 9 vi a E-mai l an da n official letter
. U . Locatio n an d Dat e U.S
. Environmenta l Protectio n Agenc y Mutua l Building , 6t h Floo r Conferenc e Roo m Durham , Nort h Carolin a Jun e 9,1999,10:3 0 a.m . l o 11:4 5 ajn
. III . Participant s Nationa l Pain t

an dCoating s Associatio n Davi dDarlin g (i n person ) Gle n Kedzi c (b y telephone ) U.S
. Environmenta l Protectio n Agenc v Marth aSmith Pacifi c Environmenta l Service s Tne
. fPBS I Bern dHanek e Gre g LaFla m 

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Memo-NPC A Meetin g Jun e 14,199 9 Pag e 2
IV . Discussio n Mr
. Darlin g commence dth e meetin g b y statin g tha t th e NPC A ha s seriou s concern s regardin g th e directio n tha t th e developmen t

ofth e Orgam c Liquid s Distributio n (O.L.D. ) MAC T rul e i s taking
. H e als o referre dt o alette r ma t h e sen t t o th e EP A o n Jun e 2,1 99 9 (Attachmen t

1)
. Thi s lette r

serve da s th e basi s fo r

Mr
. Darling' s presentation
. Mr
. Darlin g bega n b y statin g tha t results fromth e EPA' s O.L.D
. surve y shoul dno t b e use dt o se t

standaid s tha t

woul dappl y t o th e NPC A membe r facilitie s becaus e i n NPCA' s opinio n th e EP A dat abas e i s not representativ e o f

tha t industry
. Mr
. Darlin g pointe dou t tha t onl y on e o r

tw o NPC A membe r

facilitie s wer e surveye dan dsubsequentl y include di n th e dat a base
. H e als o pointe dou t tha t th e EPA' s origina l direction s ha dspecificall y exclude dcoating s facilities , bu t

tha t subsequen t

instructiona l modification s ha dinclude dthe monc e again
. Fo r th e tw o reason s state dabove , i t i s NPCA' s opinio n tha t

th e coaling s industr y di dno t hav e a chanc e t o provid e data
. Th e NPC A als o indicate dtha t it s membe r

facilitie s migh t

fee l compelle dt o challeng e th e EPA' s decision s i f th e MAC T standar dturn s ou t t o affec t thei r operations
. Mr
. Darlin g als o mentione dtha t NPC A membe r

facilitie s d o no t

hav e an y emissio n control s o n thei r

transfe r racks , an dtherefor e th e preliminar y MAC T floors whic h th e EP A develope dfo r

it s Decembe r

15,199 8 roundtabl e presentatio n ar e ver y disturbing
. H e pointe d ou t tha t MAC T floor s fo r

ne w sourc e transfe r

rack s i n som e instance s wer e a t 99. 9 o r 10 0 percen t control
. Th e EP A responde dt o thi s b y statin g tha t th e MAC T floor s presente ddurin g th e roundtabl e meetin g wer e preliminary , an dtha t man y change s ha dbee n mad e a s th e dat a bas e wa s furthe r

analyzed
. Th e EP A als o informe dMr
. Darlin g tha t adecisio n ha dbee n mad e t o exclud e non-surveyed , low-volatilit y liquid s fromth e MAC T floo r determination s (i.e. , tru e vapo r pressure s les s tha n 0. 1 psia)
. Th e NPC A inquire di f

th e O.L.D
. MAC T wa s onl y goin g t o contro l bul k transfer s t o tan k truck s an drailcar s a t

facilitie s tha t

wil l b c subjec t

t o th e Miscellaneou s Organi c NESHA P (MON)
. Th e MO N wil l presumabl y contro l man y emissio n point s a t NPC A membe r

facilities , bu t no t outgoin g bul k

transfe r racks
. Th e NPC A state dit s belie f tha t th e liquid s bein g transferre dat

it s membe r

facilitie s ar e not

representativ e o f

othe r organi c liquid s bein g handle d i n th e O.L.D
. industry
. Mr
. Darlin g state dthat th e transferre dcoating s ar e lo w i n HAP , an d that th e outgoin g stream s ar e lo w i n volume
. H e wa s als o ofth e opinio n tha t th e HA P emission s ar e smal l whe n compare dt o EP A surveye dO.L.D
. facilities
. Th e EP A replie dtha t numerou s facilitie s ha dsubmitte dinformatio n o n organi c liqui dmixture s tha t me t th e survey HA P cutoffs
. Also , th e O.L.D
. liquid s foun di n th e EP A dat abas e hav e awid e rang e o f HA P contents . Th e EP A als o mentione dtha t n o decisio n ha dbee n mad e regardin g th e inclusio n o r exclusio n o f

transfe r rack s a t MON-covere dfacilities
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Memo-NPC A Meetin g Jun e 14,199 9 Pag e 3
A t

th e reques t

o f Ms
. Smith , abrie f

discussio n ensuedi n whic h Mr
. Darlin g explaine d hi s previou s reference s t o th e "fron t end " an d"bac k

end " o f amanufacturin g facility
. H e explaine dtha t

raw material s ar e fe dint o th e front en dofth e facility , an dfinishe dproduct s ar e usuall y shippe dfromth e bac k end
. H e note dthat

th e MO N wa s goin g t o regulat e th e front end ! ofth e NPC A membe r

facilities , but

not any loadin g rack/bul k

transfer s a t

th e bac k end
. Th e NPC A the n discusse dth e topi c o f stakeholde r

involvement
. Mr
. Darlin g mentione dtha t

O.L.D
. stakeholde r

involvemen t

was bein g scale ddow n du e t o budge t concerns' , etc. , bu t tha t ther e i s stil l considerabl e stakeholde r involvemen t

i n othe r sourc e category MAC T projects
. H e adde dtha t

NPC A doe s no t

fee l comfortabl e wit h thi s lac k o f communicatio n becaus e it s membe r

companie s expec t

tdb e kep t

informed
. Ms
. Smit h repliedtha t O.L.D
. stakeholde r

involvemen t

ha s bee n reduce dsubstantially , bu t th e compan y an dtrad e organizatio n representative s ca n expec t t o mee t with th e EP A i n aroundtabl e format befor e Decembe r

o f thi s year . Mr
. Darlin g mentione dtha t th e NPC A wa s ofth e opinio n tha t some , sor t

o f subcategorizatio n schem e woul dhav e t o b e applie dt o th e O.L.D
. sourc e category . Ms
. Smith replie dtha t

th e EP A i s no t

considerin g subcategorizatio n (i.e. , differen t rul e requirement s fo r subgroup s ofth e O.L.D
. industry ) at thi s time
. I n response , Mr
. Darlin g suggeste dtha t th e MO N shoul db e allowe dt o regulate/cove r al l emission s point s at

pain t an dcoatings-typ e operations
. Whe n aske di f th e MON dat abas e include s th e emissio n point s tha t ar e no t include di n th e OL D dat abase , Mr
. Darlin g responde di n th e negative
. Th e discussio n the n focuse do n th e dat abas e containin g th e EP A surve y responses . Mr
. Darlin g note dtha t

i t wa s th e EPA' s decisio n no t t o releas e th e dat abas e t o th e public
. H e als o note dtha t h e felt i t shoul db e release dt o th e publi c s o tha t th e EPA' s MAC T floo r determination s coul db e verifie dfor conten t an daccuracy . Ms
. Smith responde dtha t th e EP A ha dspen t considerabl e amount s o f tim e an dmone y t o creat e adat abas e tha t incorporate d confidentia l an dnon-confidentia l busines s information , an dtha t effort s s o fa

r hav e no t yielde d ausabl e product
. A s i t

woul db e to o expensiv e an dtime-consumin g t o creat e ausabl e dat a base , th e EP A ha s decide dno t t o releas e i l l o th e public
. Furthermore , Ms
. Smit h added , th e non-CB I portio n ofth e dat abas e woul db e incomplet e an dwoul dno t b e beneficia l t o thos e intereste di n checkin g th e EPA' s work
. Mr
. Darlin g requeste dt o kno w i f facilitie s with asyntheti c mino r ai r permittin g statu s ha dt o respon dt o th e survey . Tli e EP A responde dthat adecisio n ha dbee n mad e a t th e Jun e 199 8 Housto n IC Rworksho p t o exclud e syntheti c mino r facilitie s fro mrespondin g t o th e survey , an dfromth e dat abase
. Furthermore , Ms
. Smith informe dth e NPC A representative s tha t any syntheti c mino r

facilitie s whic h ha derroneousl y submitte dsurveys wer e extracte d fro mthe
. dat abas e an dwer e no t goin g t o b e use di n settin g standard s fo r thi s sourc e category . 

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### Memo-IYPC

A Meetin g Jun e 14,199 9 Pag e 4 The NPC A then askedth e EP A i f i t couldprovide th e surve

y t o it s membe

r facilitie s independently ofth e EPA
. Ms
. Smit h replie dtha

t she wouldhav e t o consult

her managemen

t andthen mak

e adecisio n o n whethe

r asurve y o f NPCA facilitie s woul db e usefu l t o the EP A i m thi s regulator

y development
. Nea r th e en dofth e meeting , Mr
. Darling aske dif NPC A couldsendsupplementa l informatio n t o th e EP

A regardin g th e operation s an demission s o f

it s membe

r facilities
. Ms
. Smit h replie dtha

t an y information sen

t in b y th e NPCA woul

db e evaluate dandtaken into consideration , a s long a s i t

i s properl y documentedandca

n b e verified
. Mr
. Darlin g summarize dIh

e point s h e mad

e during th e meeting , andfollowing this , th e meetin g wa s adjourned
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. 5 200 3 1 ' ^^S ^ Jun e 2,199 9 Marth a Smith MD-1 3 USEPA Mailroo m Reseaic h Triangl e Park, N C 2771 1 Dea r Ms . Smith : Th e Nationa l Pain t& Coating s Associatio n (NPCA ) i s a voluntary , non-profi tindustry associario n originall y organize d i n 188 8 an d comprise d toda

y o f ove r40 0 membe rcompanie s whic h manufactur

e consume rpain tproduct s an d industria

l coating s NPC A membershi p companie s collectivel y produc e som e 80 % ofth e tota l dolla rvolum e o f

architectura

l paint s an d industria l coating s produce d i n th e Unite d States . NP C A als o represent s manufacturer

s o f . caulks , sealan tan d adhesives —othe rformulated coatmg s tha tar e manufacture

d i n processe s simila rt o paint s and coating s an d hav e en d use s tha

tar e simila rto paint

s an d coatings . O n behal f o f ou rmembers , w e ar

e very conceme d abou

tth e result

s ofth e Organi c Liqui d Distributio n (OLD ) MAC T dat a analysis . NPC A woul d lik e to expres s ourooncem s fo rth e record , o n th e Preliminary ICR Data Analysis forOrganic Liquids Distribution (OLD) MACT dated Decembe r15,1998 . Surve y Dat a W e recogniz e thatEPA , i n conductin g it s industr y surveys , i s no trequire

d to captur

e th e entir e univers e o f

potentiall y regulale d entities , butEP A i s require

d t o collec tdat

a representativ e ofth e sourc e categoi y i n questio n (Sectio n 2.4 , EPA Guidelines forMACT

Determinations under Section U2Q) EPA 453/R-94-026. ) W e d o no tbeliev e tha tth e dai a upo n whic h EP A ha s base d it s OL D dat

a analysi s i s a s complete a s i tshoul d b e t o warran tan y har d an d fas tMAC T floo r detenninarions , especiall y wit h respectt o th e paintan d coating s industry , sinc e ther e currently ar e n o paintrnanufecturing facilitie s (SI C 2851) , an d onl y on e adhesive s facility (SI C 2891 ) i n th e surve y database . Pleas e recal l thatth e original EP A Organic Liqui d Distributio n (OLD ) surve y reques tdated 4/29/9 8 clearl y state d o n pag e 7 , Sectio n H : "Compounding/blending/packagin g facilitie s tha thav e a primar

y Standar d Industria

l Classificatio n (SIC ) cod e o f 282,284,285,286,287,289 . or38 6 ar e no tinclude d i n thi s surve y and nee d no tb e includ e i n th e surve y response. " However , o n 5/22/98 , EP A change d thei r min d an d stated o n pag e 2 o f it s Additions to Instructions that "A s a n example , th e propose d MAC T fo rPesticide s an d th e MAC T under developmen t fbrMiscellaneou s Organi c NESHA P (MON ) do no tregulat e loadin g rack

s o rarms , no r wer e the y surveye d unde rthos e projects . Therefore , thos e loadin g racks an d arm s no t covere d unde rthos e MACT s mus tb e surveye d unde rth e OL D survey. " 

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W . Washington. DC 20005-559 7 • Phone : 202/462-627 2 • Fax : 202/462*54 9 E-mail : members@paini.or g (NPC A members) ; o r npca@painr.oi-g Cgencra l public ) - We

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Pleas e bea

ri n min d tha

tbecaus e pain tan

d coating s facilitie s wer e no to n EPA' s OL D Surve y mailin g list , whe n EP A change d it s min d an d sentou tit s Additions to Instructions, thes e instruction s neve rmad e i tt o th e pain tan d coating s industr

y butOnl y wen tt o th e origina l companie s o n th e mailin g list . Onl y on e thes e companies reporte d additiona

l dat a fo ra facilit y wit h a primar

y SI C cod e 289 . Whe n EP A changed its polic y an

d include d th e pain tand coating s industr y i n th e OL D MAC T rulemaking , EP A shoul d hav e notifie d an d sen tth e pain tan d coating s industr

y surve y form s i n ordert o mak e sur e tha tth e databas e i s representative . Th e curren tOLD databas e doe s no tcontai n an y pain tfacilitie s an

d onl y on e adhesive s faeility , an d therefore i s no trepresentativ e ofth e pain tan d coating s industry . Therefore , th e OL D MAC T shoul d no tb e applicabl e t o th e pain tSc coating s industry . Thi s issu e i s furthercompounde d give n th e facttha tth e pain tan d coating s industr y currentl y ha s n o control s o n loadin g rack s an d arms . However , sinc e pain tan d coating s facilitie s wer e no t include d i n th e OL D survey , these s facilitie s wil l no w b e subjectt o MAC T floor s fo rbul k tank and bul k truc

k loadin g atlevel s at99.9 % forexistin g facilitie s on d 100 % fo rne w facilities ! Applicabilit y Most , i f no tal l MACT , rulemaking s (includin g th e Miscellaneou s Organi c NESHAP ) currentl y unde rdevelopmen twil l appl y onl y t o majo r sources , -whic

h ar c define d a s facilitie s thathav e th e potential to emi t1 0 ton s pe ryea r(tpy ) o f a singl e HAP , o

r2 5 tp y o f

combine d HAP . EP A i s considerin g usin g a

n actual emissio n cutof

f o f 5 tpy o f a singl e HAP , an

d 12. 5 tp y q f

combine d HAP s i n m e OL D rulemaking . B y utilizin g a differen tdefinitio n i n th e OL D MAC T rulemakin g EP A wil l plac e unwarranted confusio n an d burde n o n th e paintan

d coating s industry . I n addition , i n utilizin g thi s definition , th e OL D wil l b e applicabl e t o facilitie s with syntheti c mino r status . EPA shoul d b e consisten tan d bas e th e OLD applicabilit y threshol d o n a potentia l t o emi t basi s a s d o all othe rMAC T standar d rulemakings . EPA' s Misus e o f

Industr y Dat a 1 . EPA clearl y state d i n it s OL D Surve y Foi m (pag e 3 , Sectio n C. ) tha tfacilitie s shoul d provid e th e requested dat

a onl y fo reac h organi c liqui d or mixtur e o f liquid s tha

tmee tbot

h ofth e followin g criteria : 1 ) th e organi c liqui d ha s a HA P contento f 1,00 0 ppm v o rgreater , an d 2 ) th e liqui d ha s a

n annua l averag e true vapo rpressur e o f 0. 1 psi a orgreater . Unfortunately , facilitie s di d no tconectl y follo w th e surve y direction s an d erroneously submitte d suc h data . EP A the n use d thi s dat

a and se tPreliminary MAC T Floor s fo rorgani c liquid s with vapo rpressure s les s tha n 0. 1 psia . Clearly , th e databas e i s no trepresentative o f industr y sinc e onl y a fe w facilitie s erroneously sen tthi s dat

a t o EPA . Thi s dat

a therefor e i s deceptiv e o n it s fac e an d doe s no t representa realisti c vie w o f operation s withi n our industry .

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2 . O n pag e 2 ofth e OLD surve y form . EP A stated.. . "tha

tth e compan y mus trespon d i f eithe r1 ) th e plan tsit e ha s actua

l annua l emission s o f

5 ton s per year (ipy ) o r greate ro f an y singl e HA P or 2 ) th e plan tsit e ha s an actual annua l emissio n o f

12. 5 tpy o rgreatero f

an y combinatio n o f HAPs. " Howeve ro n Jun e 23,1998 , i n EPA' s Response to Questions Identified at the June 3, 1998 ICR workshop in Houston, Texas, Response #4 EP A states :

" Th e Organi c Liquid s Distributio n MAC T surve y wa s shortene d t o no tinclud e noh majo rsources . Th e criteri a o f actua l emission s instead o f

PT E emission s wa s use d t o determin e non-majo rsource s t o simplif y th e surve

y calculation s an d side-ste p man y o f th e PT E issues . Howeve ri f th e plantsit e has receive d a n enforceabl e non-majo rsourc e permi tbase d o n PT E o f

HA P [ ie , A syntheti c minorstatus] , i tdoc s no tnee d t o respon d t o th e survey , despit e it s actua l emission s tota

l bein g betwee n th e 5/12. 5 tp y criteri a fb r larg e emitters and th e PT E 10/2 5 tp y criteri a fo rmajorsources. " However , h i it s Preliminary ICR Data Analysis forOrganic Liquids Distribution (OLD) MACT dated December15, 199B. EP A use d dat a fro m facilitie s tha

thad a syntheti c mino rStatu s i n settin g th e Preliminar

y OL D MAC T floors . Clearly , becaus e EP

A wa s inconsisten ti n it s directives , industr y submitte d dat

a tha tshoul d no t hav e bee n submitted . EP A mus tno tus e thi s dat

a becaus e i ti s no trepresentativ e o f industr y sinc e i trepresent

s onl y a smal l portio n o f

industr y tha tha d erroneously submitte d data . Releas e ofth e OL D Surve y Databas e O n Apri l 29,199 9 EP

A stated : "Th e EP A ha s created a dat

a bas e usin g th e results o f a surve y o f

organi c liquid s distributio n operatio n tha twa s sentt

o companie s throughoutth e country i n 1998 . A n earl y versio n ofth e dat

a bas e wa s mad e availabl e t o th e publi c i n Februar y 1999 , bu

twa s withdrawn afte

rtranscriptio n error

s wer e discovered . I

tals o becam e apparenttha tth e dat a bas e whic h di d no tcontai n confidential busines s informatio n (CBI ) di d no tpresen t th e entire pictur

e ofth e informatio n tha

thad bee n collected . Attempt s wer e the n mad e t o develo p a mor

e complet e dat

a bas e b y integrating dat

a fro m companie s wh o had claime d certai n respons e dat

a a s CBI . Th e EPA' s intentwa s t o make thi s complet e dat a bas e availabl e t o th e publi c aftermaskin g th e CB I an d removin g informatio n ma twoul d allo w identificatio n ofth e compan y and specifi c facilit y associate d wit h eac h bloc k o f data . Afte rworkin g with thes e dat a fo rth e pas trw

o months , th e EP A ha s decide d tha ti t wil l no tb e possible , withi n th e tim e an d resource constraint

s ofthi s project , t o creat

e an integrate d dat

a bas e tha

tha s considerabl e masked dat a an d wil l stil l allo w meaningfu l analysi s t o b e undertaken b y outsid e parries . Therefore , th e EP A ha s change d it s plan s an d wil l no tb e releasin g thi s dat a bas e t o th e public. "

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Wit h respectto EPA' s clai m tha ttiie database ca n no tb e release d du e t o confidentia l busines s infonnatio n (CBI) , th e surve y fbi m Include d a cop y o f

a Federal

RegisterNotice date d 2/21/9 1 tha i describe d EPA' s polic y o n th e publi c release o f certain emissio n dat

a underSection s 11 0 an d 11 4 ofth e Clea n Ai rAct . Th e polic y clearl y states :

" .... . EPA determine d tha tdat a submitted t

o i ta s emissio n dat

a doe s no tqualif

y a s confidential i f

i tmeet s th e definitio n unde r4 0 CFR2.30 1 (a)(2)(T) . An y informatio n necessar y t o determin e th e identity , amount, frequency , concentration , o rothe r characteristic s o f

any emissio n whic h ha s bee n emitte d b y th e sourc e meet s .thi s definition . Clearl y th e emissio n dat a containe d i n th e OL D databas e meet s this defmitio n an d therefor e shoul d b e released. " I n addition , o n Decembe r15,1998 , EP A i n it s Preliminary ICR Data Analysis ForOrganic Liquids Distribution (OLD) MACT, o n pag e 1 7 sai d

" CB I dat a ar e no tlikel y t o hav e a significan timpac to n curren

tpieliminar y MAC T floors , bu tma y hel p determine throughpu tcutoff s fo rliqui d transfer operations " Clearly , EPA shoul d releas e th e OL D database an

d allo w industr

y t o confir

m EPA' s data analysis . NPC A woul d lik e a meetin g with EP A t o th e issue s raise d above . I wil l b e i n RT P o n Jun e 9t h an d I woul d lik e t o mee twit h yo u i n th e morning i f possible . I wil l cal l yo u late rthi s wee k t o se e i f thi s dat e i s appropriat

e I f yo u hav e an

y questions , pleas e d o no thesitate t o call . Bes tregards , 

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