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# 											Department Press Briefing – February 20, 2024									

Matthew Miller, Department Spokesperson

Washington, DC

February 20, 2024

## 										Article Index									

              - RUSSIA / UKRAINE
- SOUTH KOREA / CUBA
- NORTH KOREA
- ISRAEL / PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES
- BRAZIL / ISRAEL
- ISRAEL / PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES
- RUSSIA
- PAKISTAN
- DEPARTMENT
- BANGLADESH
- ISRAEL / PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES
- AFGHANISTAN
- YEMEN
- ISRAEL / LEBANON
- PAKISTAN
- SAUDI ARABIA / ISRAEL
- DEPARTMENT
- UKRAINE
- GUINEA
- CHINA

1:41 p.m. EST

**MR MILLER:**Good afternoon, everyone. Sorry to be – sorry, thank you. Sorry to be late. Let me —

**QUESTION:**Are you really?

**MR MILLER:** I am sorry to be late. You think I don’t want to get on with my day as much as you do. (Laughter.) Let me —

**QUESTION:**I accept your apology.

**MR MILLER:** No, thank you. Let me start with some opening comments.

 As we mark two years this week since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the brutality of Putin’s regime is increasingly evident both at home and abroad. The weakness and rot at the heart of the system that Putin has built was confirmed not only by Aleksey Navalny’s death last week, but also by the fact that the Russian – that Russia detained close to 400 people over the weekend just for mourning his passing.

The Kremlin has poisoned Navalny, imprisoned him unjustly, kept him in harsh conditions, and denied him medical care. It is the Russian Government that is responsible for Navalny’s death while in detention. And now, in any other society – in a free, democratic society – we would see openness and transparency as his family seeks more information about their beloved son, husband, and father. But of course, in Russia, openness and transparency remain in short supply.

We saw further evidence of Putin – the Putin’s regime’s brutality and disregard for human life in Avdiivka this weekend, where Ukrainian citizens bravely tried to hold off Putin’s illegal invasion while facing rationed ammunition due to dwindling supplies. Unfortunately, Russia made its first notable gains in months. It is now clear – more clear than ever what the stakes are in Ukraine. Without more support from Congress, Ukraine will not be able to replenish its air defenses and ammunition supplies to help protect itself from Russia’s aggression.

As the White House announced this morning, at President Biden’s direction, we will be announcing a major sanctions package on Friday to hold Russia accountable for Navalny’s death in prison, and for its actions over the course of the vicious and brutal war they have waged in Ukraine for the past two years. We also renew our call for Congress to pass the national security supplemental funding bill, both to enable Ukraine and its people to defend against the ongoing invasion, and also to advance U.S. national security interests. It is critical that Congress act without further delay.

With that, Matt.

**QUESTION:**Thanks. Before we get into the – what you just talked about, I just want to get what you have to say about the detention of a U.S.-Russian dual national.

**MR MILLER:** So with respect to this most recent detention, we are aware of the case. We are seeking consular assistance[1] that has not yet been granted. I’d limit what more we can say because – with respect – because of privacy laws, as I’ve discussed many times from this podium.

And I will just say generally, as I think you are aware, Russia – when it comes to dual citizens of the United States and Russia or dual citizenship of any other country and Russia, Russia does not recognize dual citizenship; considers them to be Russian citizens first and foremost, and so oftentimes we have a difficult time getting consular assistance[2]. But we will pursue it in all matters where a U.S. citizen is detained.

**QUESTION:**Okay. And then on the sanctions, why wait until Friday?

**MR MILLER:** It takes time to put these sanctions packages together. There’s —

**QUESTION:**Well, it’s been two years. I mean —

**MR MILLER:** It has been two years.

**QUESTION:** Well, it wasn’t a secret that the anniversary was coming up, so —

**MR MILLER:** And if you have watched, you have seen us roll out a significant number of sanctions packages over that two years. So it’s not like we have delayed anything.

**QUESTION:**Yes. No, no, no, I know. But —

**MR MILLER:** But we are always looking to impose new sanctions as facts justify when we see sanctions evasion or activity moving to new areas, and to tighten our existing sanctions. And we’ll have more to say on Friday.

**QUESTION:**Okay.

**MR MILLER:** Go ahead, Shaun.

**QUESTION:**Or do you want to go to there? Could I ask – I’ll just ask you if you have any reaction on Evan Gershkovich’s, the latest pretrial detention, that he’s being kept in for another 30 months – excuse me – 30 days?

**MR MILLER:** So with respect to Evan Gershkovich, Ambassador Tracy attended Evan’s hearing and spoke to the press soon after. You may have seen her comments. We’re disappointed but not surprised by the outcome of the hearing. As you’ve heard me say many times from this podium, the charges against him are baseless and Russia should immediately release Evan Gershkovich and Paul Whelan, and the United States will continue to work towards securing both of their freedom.

**QUESTION:**And just one other on Russia, Radio Free Europe. I don’t know if you saw the announcement on that saying it’s undesirable as an organization. Do you have any reaction on the Russian statement?

**MR MILLER:** I don’t have any specific reaction other than to say that you have seen Vladimir Putin oppose the free dissemination of information, the free press inside Russia, and unfortunately that seems to be – seems not surprisingly but unfortunately not moved off that position.

**QUESTION:**And may I follow up on that, Matt?

**MR MILLER:** Let me go to Humeyra first.

**QUESTION:**Matt, can you say at all if the administration is going to use this EO that you guys issued in December that threated basically penalties for financial institutions that help circumvent Russia’s sanctions?

**MR MILLER:** You mean with respect to our announcements that are coming on Friday? I certainly don’t want to preview those.

**QUESTION:**Yes, yes.

**MR MILLER:** And I just – I’d just say in general —

**QUESTION:**The announcements that are coming on Friday that you guys —

**MR MILLER:**On Friday that you would like me —

**QUESTION:**— have made public on Monday.

**MR MILLER:** That you would like – it’s Tuesday, actually.

**QUESTION:**Oh, Tuesday. Long weekend.

**MR MILLER:** But we made public that we’ll be taking that action. I don’t want to preview what they will be, but as we have said, they will be a major sanctions package.

**QUESTION:**Right. Can I – can I just ask a little bit on Ukraine coming off the heels of Munich Security Conference, where a lot of European leaders and sort of various officials have tweeted their rather negative outlook about the supplemental and Congress and all that? And the Congress is on holiday until mid-March. What exactly is the administration planning how to convince the Speaker, whether you have a Plan B if the supplemental prospects look pretty bleak?

**MR MILLER:** So we will continue to engage with Congress to make clear that it is in the national security interest of the United States to pass this supplemental funding request. You heard the Secretary speak about this last week. One of the points he made is that when it comes to our security assistance to Ukraine, 90 percent of that money is actually spent here in the United States. It benefits American manufacturing. It benefits American technological development.

So we will continue to make that case, but I think it’s also the American people that make that case. If you look at the recent polls that came out, the American people overwhelmingly continue to support standing with Ukraine. And there were a number of members of Congress who were in Munich over the weekend and at the end of the last week attending the Munich Security Conference, and they heard directly from Ukrainian officials and from European officials how it is in the national security interest of Europe and also in our transatlantic national security interest. So we’ll continue to make the case, but I would say it’s not just the United States that will continue to make the case.

And I will say, as you have heard the Secretary say, there is no other magic plan that we can unveil to support Ukraine. Ukraine will continue to defend itself even in the absence of a supplemental funding request passing Congress. That is without a doubt. You have seem them fight with bravery, you’ve seen them fight with skill, and we fully expect that they will continue to do so and they will continue to make gains against Russia as they have done in the Black Sea. But the situation will be very difficult. When you don’t have the ammunition you need on the front lines, you’re going to be vulnerable. And that’s what we saw over the weekend with the loss of Advika (ph) and – or Avdiivka. And so I think it’s the fact on the ground that will continue to make the case to members of Congress why they need to act, and we hope they will.

**QUESTION:** Would you say that you’re – you still have some sort of confidence that it will pass?

**MR MILLER:** I don’t want to make an assessment on what Congress will do. What we will say and continue to represent is why it is in the national interest of the United States for it to pass this bill. Members of Congress will have to make their own assessments, and it continues to be our belief that if you brought this funding up for an up-or-down vote it will pass the House, and that’s what needs to happen.

**QUESTION:** Okay, I have some Gaza questions but I’ll let people ask questions.

**MR MILLER:** Yeah, go ahead.

**QUESTION:** Matt, a single on Russia. Russian Supreme Court of Tatarstan today rejected Alsu Kurmasheva, RFE/RL reporter’s, request for house arrest. Can we do a quick reaction? And I want to follow up on that.

**MR MILLER:** So we will continue to engage with the Russian Government. This is another one – another matter where they consider a – this to be a dual – well, not a dual citizen. It’s another matter of a dual citizen they – where they rejected that request. We’ll continue to engage with the Russian Government on this question, but I don’t want to speak to a specific court matter.

**QUESTION:** I mean, yesterday marked four months of the arrest of – day before yesterday. Are you telling us that you are out of option here in terms of defending a U.S. citizen even on —

**MR MILLER:** The safety and security of United States’ citizens overseas is always our first priority, and we always look to protect the safety and security of every United States citizen whether they be in Russia or whether they be in any other country.

**QUESTION:** Is her designation – or designating her arrest as wrongful? Is it still on the table? Are you still considering it?

**MR MILLER:** I just don’t want to make any kind of judgment about a wrongful detention determination. That is something that we always look at when it comes to American citizens who are detained overseas. It is a process. Sometimes it takes time. Sometimes new facts develop that we take under consideration. But I don’t want to put – I don’t want to speak to that any further from here.

**QUESTION:** And going back to Shaun’s question, you —

**QUESTION:** On this, Alex, RFE/RL too?

**MR MILLER:** Yeah.

**QUESTION:** Russia has labeled Radio Free Europe today as an undesirable organization after designating it as a foreign agent. Do you have any —

**MR MILLER:** I just – I commented on that a moment ago just to say we have seen Russia continue to crack down on a free press, continue to track down – crack down on transparency. It is quite clear that they do not want their people to have information about what the Russian regime does abroad, what the Russian regime does to its own people.

**QUESTION:** And one more. Russia placed U.S. Senator —

**MR MILLER:** I don’t think Alex completely yielded the floor.

**QUESTION:** Since you’re talking about Russia.

**MR MILLER:** But go ahead, Michel. (Laughter.)

**QUESTION:** Yeah. Russia placed U.S. Senator Lindsay Graham on Russia’s terrorist and extremist list. Any reaction to that?

**MR MILLER:** So I – we’ve seen obviously the Russian Government designate a broad range of United States officials with various sanctions. I doubt there are any significant ramifications from that, partly because I doubt very much that Senator Graham – who I shouldn’t speak to, he can speak for himself – planned to travel to Russia anytime in the near future.

**QUESTION:** RFE/RL again.

**MR MILLER:** Yeah.

**QUESTION:** Is it fair for us to report back that you just said you will not take any action just for RFE/RL designation?

**MR MILLER:** Alex, you can report back what I just said, not your implication of what I didn’t said – say. And what I said was that the safety and security of American citizens abroad is always our first priority. That is true with respect to this case. It is true with respect to every American overseas. And when it comes to the wrongful detention determination, that is a process that takes time here at the department where we assess the facts, some of which change over time, circumstances change over time, and make a determination that is consistent with the law.

**QUESTION:** Please come back to me on the region?

**MR MILLER:** Janne, go ahead.

**QUESTION:** Thank you. Thank you, Matt. Two questions on South Korea, Cuba, and North Korea. South Korea and Cuba established diplomatic relations last week. Cuba has been a brother country with North Korea for a long time. What is the U.S.’s view?

**MR MILLER:** I don’t have any comment on a relationship between South Korea and Cuba. Obviously, we have always said that countries are free to pick their own – free to decide their own diplomatic engagements and their own diplomatic alignments.

**QUESTION:** Okay, on North Korea. North Korea Kim Yo Jong announced that North Korea is open to talks with Japan if Japan does not interfere with North Korea’s nuclear and missile tests and abduction issues. My question is: If Japan tolerates these and talked with North Korea, what impact do you think it will have on the U.S. and South Korea – North Korea – alliance?

**MR MILLER:** I think that’s a pretty big “if.” I think I will wait to see how the Government of Japan responds to that question before I weigh in any further.

Go ahead.

**QUESTION:** You don’t have any —

**MR MILLER:** I am aware of the North Korean offer.

**QUESTION:** — any opinions or —

**MR MILLER:** I have not see the Government of Japan respond, but it will be – continue to be our policy to achieve – that – for full denuclearization of the North Korean – or of the Korean Peninsula. That, of course, has not changed and will not change.

**QUESTION:** Any intention – any intention of North Korea, why they suggest, talked with —

**MR MILLER:** That is a good – that is a question for North Korea, not for me.

**QUESTION:** Thank you.

**QUESTION:**Sir?

**MR MILLER:** Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah.

**QUESTION:** Okay. Thank you. I have a question about a statement by the UN experts from the UN Human Rights Office yesterday, expressing alarm over allegations of human rights violations to which Palestinian women and girls in the West Bank, in Gaza is subjected to. They said – the UN experts said that Palestinian women and girls in detention have been subjected to multiple forms of sexual assault by male Israeli army officers. At least two of them were reportedly threatened with rape and sexual violence. Have you seen those allegations —

**MR MILLER:** So —

**QUESTION:** — and do you have any reaction?

**MR MILLER:** — I have seen the allegations. I cannot independently confirm the reports. I will say that we have been clear that civilians and detained individuals must be treated humanely and in accordance with international humanitarian law. We strongly urge Israel to thoroughly and transparently investigate credible allegations and ensure any accountability for abuses and violations, and that will continue to be our position.

**QUESTION:** Have you heard back from your previous call for investigation into the killing of Hind Rajab?

**MR MILLER:** The —

**QUESTION:** Hind Rajab, killing of.

**MR MILLER:** We have heard that those investigations are underway. We have – it’s our understanding that the investigations have not yet been concluded.

**QUESTION:** Sorry, can I just – on the —

**QUESTION:**Sir?

**MR MILLER:** Yeah.

**QUESTION:** When you said you had no independent confirmation of what the UN experts found —

**MR MILLER:** I mean, the underlying —

**QUESTION:** Yeah, yeah, I get it. But did you ever get – did you ever have confirmation of what Hamas allegedly did to Israelis who were – women and girls who were —

**MR MILLER:** There are Israeli medical experts who have testified to that, and that is something we consider credible, yes.

**QUESTION:** So you have – you consider those instances to be confirmed, but not what the UN was talking about yesterday?

**MR MILLER:** We have seen this report and we have called for an investigation to confirm whether the allegations are true or not.

**QUESTION:** I get it. And who – and if you’re willing to take a word of an Israeli – and I’m not saying you shouldn’t – but if you’re willing to take the word of Israeli medical experts on what happened to the people who were abducted on October 7th, whose word are you willing to take – if not the UN, who —

**MR MILLER:** A full, independent, credible investigation —

**QUESTION:** Would it have to be – would it have to be an Israeli medical expert?

**MR MILLER:** We are calling for that – and, no, of course it would not have to be an Israeli medical expert. A credible medical expert, a credible —

**QUESTION:** Or a Palestinian —

**MR MILLER:** A credible – I don’t want to prescribe who it would be – a credible medical expert that can testify to it would be something we would look at, of course. It would not have to be —

**QUESTION:** Well, you would look at, but you’d take – you’ve taken —

**MR MILLER:** I’m not going to – because that’s one where we have seen the outcome of the investigation and are able to opine on it. I’m not going to opine on a matter that hasn’t been conducted.

**QUESTION:** Well, yeah, but you didn’t do your own independent investigation into what I think is pretty much well accepted by everybody that there were instances of rape and sexual assault on October 7th, so —

**MR MILLER:** And the circumstances very much matter, and in this – in this —

**QUESTION:** I completely understand that, but I’m just —

**MR MILLER:**It is a well – it is a well – hold on. It is a well-accepted fact. With respect to this —

**QUESTION:** Yeah, no, no. It might be a well-accepted fact —

**MR MILLER:** No, this – hold on. No, let me – just let me finish. It – just —

**QUESTION:** — but you’re saying that – but you’re saying that you have what you consider to be independent confirmation that those —

**MR MILLER:** Let —

**QUESTION:** — attacks, those assaults, happened. And in this case — s

**MR MILLER:** Independent confirmation – it is a well-accepted fact because the investigations produced credible evidence that not just the United States accepted but countries —

**QUESTION:** Okay.

**MR MILLER:** No, no, let me finish – countries around the world accepted. With respect to these new allegations, we want to see an investigation, and we will, of course, look at the investigation, make our judgements when that investigation is concluded.

**QUESTION:** Okay. So it’s just too early for you?

**MR MILLER:** Correct.

**QUESTION:** Thank you.

**QUESTION:** Could I stay in the Middle East?

**MR MILLER:** Yeah.

**QUESTION:**Matthew, sir?

**QUESTION:** Just – well, a couple things, but of course the Secretary’s on his way to Brasilia. I’m sure you saw the comments by Lula, by President Lula, in Ethiopia this past weekend. Israel’s quite upset with him likening what’s happening there to the Holocaust. Do you have any comment on – both on – both do you have any comment on what Lula said, and do you think the Secretary will raise this with him tomorrow?

**MR MILLER:** So obviously we disagree with those comments. We have been quite clear that we do not believe that genocide has occurred in Gaza. We want to see the conflict ended as soon as practical. We want to see humanitarian assistance increased in a sustained manner to innocent civilians in Gaza. But we do not agree with those comments.

**QUESTION:** And does – do you expect the Secretary to raise this? Will this affect relations —

**MR MILLER:** I’m going to follow my general rule and never preview what the Secretary plans to raise before he has a chance to do so directly with officials, but we engage with Brazil on a number of issues, and I don’t expect that to change.

**QUESTION:** And just – can we stay on the Middle East? Obviously there was the veto this morning at the Security Council. I know Ambassador Thomas-Greenfield spoke about this at length, but in terms of U.S. engagement with the region, how do you think this affects – I mean, do you think that – a number of Arab states in particular have been calling for a ceasefire. How does this take U.S. diplomacy —

**MR MILLER:**So look, when it comes to an immediate ceasefire, this has been a place where we’ve had a disagreement with a number of countries in the region for some time now. I don’t think that’s anything that’s new. But that has not stopped us from being able to engage constructively about how to bring this conflict to an end – and not just an end, but a durable end, in a way that ensures that the violence that we saw on October 7th and the death and destruction that has plagued this region for so long is not continued, and that we can finally find a durable peace agreement.

And so despite our differences of opinion about the – this UN resolution, we continue to engage with Arab countries about finding a way forward and working on some of the issues that we know we will have to deal with when it comes to establishing long-term peace and security in the region.

**QUESTION:**Can I —

**MR MILLER:**Let me make sure Shaun’s done before I go —

**QUESTION:**Yeah, go ahead.

**MR MILLER:**Go ahead. Yeah.

**QUESTION:**Just on Gaza, the mention of temporary ceasefire, the word “ceasefire” in the UN resolution, is this change in wording comes after President Biden used this last week?

**MR MILLER: “**Temporary,” obviously, does. The President made that point last week, and now you’ve seen the draft resolution that we’re working on. But this has been a matter that we have been pursuing for some time, trying to get a temporary ceasefire in exchange for a release of hostages, and something we think is critical to try to achieve and we’ll continue to focus on.

**QUESTION:**Right. Do you think – the administration has obviously been under pressure domestically on this and internationally as well. Do you think that the change in President’s wording but the fact that now it’s in draft resolution has anything to do with those pressures that it’s facing domestically?

**MR MILLER:**No, I think it has to do with how we are responding to the situation on the ground and the situation in the region. We are trying to achieve a temporary ceasefire – or you can call it a pause; you can call whichever name you prefer – to secure the release of hostages. We worked on achieving a humanitarian pause back last year, were successful in doing it. It didn’t go as long as we wanted it to. We got some hostages out; we didn’t get all of them out. We are back now trying to get a longer pause, a longer temporary ceasefire, and secure the release not just to some of the hostages but all of the hostages.

And I would say we have made quite clear that we want to see not just a temporary ceasefire, but ultimately an enduring end to the hostilities, and one that ensures that Palestinian civilians are protected, that we get humanitarian assistance to them, and that ultimately the attacks of October 7th cannot be repeated.

And that’s one of the reasons why you’ve seen us oppose the resolutions at the UN, not just today but in the past, because we think just an unconditional ceasefire only benefits Hamas, that it would – that Hamas is not going to abide by a full temporary ceasefire. They’re going to continue to hold hostages; they’re going to continue to launch attacks against Israel. They may not do it for a week or so, but they have not forsworn their aims to destroy the State of Israel. And so we’ve oppose that policy, and we think it’s not one that’s effective.

We think a negotiated agreement that would get a temporary pause, a temporary ceasefire, is ultimately not just the way to release the hostages and alleviate the suffering of the Palestinian people but to give us a pathway to a more enduring end to hostilities.

**QUESTION:**Right. And you’d like to achieve that pause before Ramadan starts?

**MR MILLER:**We would like to have achieved that pause yesterday.

**QUESTION:**Right.

**MR MILLER:**We would like to achieve it today or tomorrow.

**QUESTION:** Yeah.

**MR MILLER:** We want to achieve it as soon as possible.

**QUESTION:**Sure. But how concerned are you that the fighting will continue into Ramadan? Are you doing anything specific about that?

**MR MILLER:**I don’t want to get ahead of the situation, because we are right now in conversations and in negotiations to try to achieve a humanitarian pause. We are still over two weeks away from Ramadan. We would like to get that humanitarian pause before Ramadan begins. We’d like to get it before the end of the week, as I said. We’d like to get it as soon as possible. So that’s what we’re going to continue to try to do.

At the same time, we have made clear that Israel should not launch a full military campaign in Rafah unless it has a humanitarian plan that is both credible and realistic, and one that they can execute.

**QUESTION:**Have you seen any indications of that humanitarian plan? And what is the United States prepared to do if they go ahead anyway?

**MR MILLER:**One has not been presented to us yet. I’ve seen reports that one is being developed and will be presented to the Government of Israel this week. I will let them speak, of course, to that. But one has not been presented to the United States, so I, of course, can’t speak to it, and I wouldn’t want to deal with any kind of hypothetical situation down the road.

**QUESTION:** Israel?

**MR MILLER:** Go – Shannon, go ahead.

**QUESTION:**While in Munich, the Secretary raised Russia’s pursuit of an anti-satellite capability in meetings with his Chinese and Indian counterparts. Can you say this is the first time the Secretary has raised such meetings with other countries and whether he hopes to achieve anything by raising the topic with China and India specifically?

**MR MILLER:**So I will say that on the sidelines of the Munich Security Conference he did raise Russia’s pursuit of an anti-satellite technology with our allies and partners, but not just our allies and partners – with other countries as well – because as the Secretary made clear, he thinks it’s an issue that should be of concern, not just to the United States but to other countries in the world. And I won’t speak to the details of those diplomatic engagements, but I would just say generally that when you have an issue like this that we think should be of broad concern, not just to the United States but other countries, we, of course, would fully expect that they would use their diplomatic engagements to, as we have done, urge that the pursuit of such a technology be abandoned.

**QUESTION:**Can you say those other countries – did they express concern about the capability as well?

**MR MILLER:**I just don’t want to speak to private diplomatic engagements.

**QUESTION:**Matthew, sir?

**MR MILLER:**Okay. Go ahead.

**QUESTION:**Thank you, sir. Sir, a senior Pakistani official admits to helping rig the vote. He claimed that he changed the election results with a margin of 70,000 votes in favor of Nawaz Sharif, and that those seats were actually won by Imran Khan’s party candidates. What are your views? You already talk about the allegations of rigging and fraud. What are your views on this?

**MR MILLER:**So I saw that report. Any claims of interference or fraud should be fully and transparently investigated – excuse me – in accordance with Pakistan’s own laws and procedures. And that, of course, includes this claim as well.

**QUESTION:** Sir, a number of Pakistani politicians and media analysts in Pakistan have termed these elections most controversial, and asking political leadership to respect Imran Khan’s party’s mandate as the largest group. Would you also like to see the political leadership in Pakistan to respect the PTI’s candidate – mandate?

**MR MILLER:** Again, I don’t want to get – I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to cut you off.

**QUESTION:** Sorry.

**MR MILLER:** What was the last piece?

**QUESTION:** I’m – are you also, like, asking the political leadership in Pakistan to respect the PTI’s mandate?

**MR MILLER:** Again, I don’t want to get into an internal Pakistani matter, which I very much believe that the formation of a new government is. But – so that’s a matter that I will leave to Pakistan. But as I said, when it comes to the – any claims of interference or allegations of irregularities, we want to see those fully investigated.

**QUESTION:** Can I just follow up?

**QUESTION:** Different topic?

**MR MILLER:** Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead.

**QUESTION:** There was —

**QUESTION:** Can I – do you mind if I just follow up very briefly on something?

**QUESTION:** Yeah, go ahead.

**QUESTION:** Just on —

**MR MILLER:** You guys are so nice to each other. Like, all the – (laughter) – you’re just tolerating all these interruptions today.

**QUESTION:** Always cordial.

**MR MILLER:** Huh?

**QUESTION:** Always trying to be. Can I just follow up on Pakistan, though? In relation to the —

**MR MILLER:** He’s going to be mad if I don’t come back to him now. (Laughter.)

**QUESTION:** I’ll get two.

**MR MILLER:** There you go.

**QUESTION:** X, formerly known as Twitter, has been disrupted in Pakistan in recent days. There have been a number of calls from the Hill in particular for the State Department to raise this. Has it been raised? Do you have a stance on this?

**MR MILLER:** I don’t have any updates on whether it’s something that’s been raised, but we always want to see full internet freedom around the world, and that includes the availability of platforms that people use to communicate with each other.

**QUESTION:** And specifically in Pakistan, is it of concern in light of these allegations about the election?

**MR MILLER:** So I’ll just say as a general matter that we want that to – we want internet platforms to – I don’t know why I keep saying “internat” today, I don’t know where that came from – internet platforms to be available to people in Pakistan and around the world. And I don’t have anything further than that.

Nick, go ahead.

**QUESTION:** Thank you. There have been some reports over the weekend that the State Inspector General opened an investigation into Rob Malley and is being put on leave. Do you have anything you can add to that?

**MR MILLER:** So I won’t speak on behalf of the inspector general. As you know, they operate independently and they should be the ones to decide whether to confirm any investigation or not confirm an investigation. I will say that when it comes to inspector general investigations, we always comply with those fully and will continue to do so.

**QUESTION:** And then separately, there’s been some criticism of a cable that the Secretary sent a few weeks ago on gender identity to staff, urging staff to use gender-neutral language whenever possible, and avoid terms like “manpower” and “ladies and gentlemen.” Why do you think a memo like that was needed?

**MR MILLER:** So I will say first of all, when it comes to these types of cables, they all come out with the Secretary’s signature on it – that tends to be standard department practice, has been for years. It doesn’t mean that it’s necessarily a memo from the Secretary himself. I would say if you look at that memo, as I have done, it’s a standard government practice to try to encourage just – people just to be respectful of others and use the terms that – with which others are comfortable, and talk to people the way that they would like to be addressed, and nothing more than that.

**QUESTION:** Matt?

**MR MILLER:** Actually, let me go back. Alex, I need – it’s too late to come back to you.

**QUESTION:** Please come back to me, yeah.

**MR MILLER:** You’re right in front, so sometimes I come back, but there are people in the back that need to —

**QUESTION:** So you’re saying that it is not an order?

**MR MILLER:** It is a – I would like to look at the memo again before – but my understanding is it was a best-practices piece.

**QUESTION:** Okay. Well, you remember there was a little bit of a kerfuffle some time ago – maybe before you were here – when the email system —

**MR MILLER:** When people’s pronouns were changed for them —

**QUESTION:** Yes.

**MR MILLER:** — by mistake. I do remember that.

**QUESTION:** Exactly.

**MR MILLER:** No, yeah. No, this was just encouraging people to be respectful and treat people with – treat people with respect, and address them with the terms that they feel comfortable with.

**QUESTION:** Okay. Well, I mean, does the Secretary or anyone else in the building have an issue with the phrase “ladies and gentlemen?”

**MR MILLER:** I do not have —

**QUESTION:** Not you personally.

**MR MILLER:** I do – hold on – I do not have any problem with the term “ladies and gentlemen,” and I feel fully confident saying the Secretary does not either.

Go ahead.

**QUESTION:** Thank you. Thank you, Matt. Bangladesh regime people involvement in corruption is an open secret, according to a Bloomberg detailed report yesterday. Saifuzzaman Chowdhury, one of the cabinet ministers, is alleged to have built an empire in the UK and U.S. valued at 200 million pounds sterling, equivalent to 1 percent of the country’s foreign reserve. This is just one case among many. How is the U.S. addressing this matter to hold the government accountable and combat corruption globally?

**MR MILLER:** We are aware of these reports and encourage the Government of Bangladesh to ensure that all elected officials comply with the country’s laws and financial regulations.

**QUESTION:** Matt, can I follow up (inaudible)?

**MR MILLER:** Go, go, go, go, go. No, no. Note that the best way to not get called on is to shout out a question while I’m calling on other people. Go ahead. I will come across to this side of the room in a minute.

**QUESTION:** Thank you, Matt. In light of world pressure on Israel to accept a Palestinian state dividing their land with Hamas and Palestinian Authority terrorist organizations, and for Israel not to enter Rafah in Gaza to destroy Hamas there, what is the State Department’s response to Prime Minister Netanyahu and the Israeli cabinet, as well as the entire Jewish population, who are defending their right to live free from terrorism? And a follow-up.

**MR MILLER:** We, of course, agree with Israel’s right to live free from terrorism. If you’ve looked at the repeated comments that Secretary Blinken has made – not just here in the United States, but in Israel itself on his five trips to the region – he has made clear that he supports Israel’s right to ensure that October 7th can never happen again. And more importantly, he is trying to achieve a resolution of this conflict that will ensure Israel has long-term peace and long-term security, including security, of course, from terrorism.

**QUESTION:** Are you going to be wanting to prevent Israel from entering Rafah to take out Hamas there?

**MR MILLER:** What we have said is we do not support an – a full-scale military campaign in Rafah that does not account for the more than 1 million Palestinians who are currently there – people who have nothing to do with Hamas, innocent civilians; men, women, children, the elderly, who in many cases have fled to Rafah from their homes; in some cases, have fled more than once – have fled two or three times to escape the war, the conflict that is raging in Gaza.

So we fully support Israel’s right to take a military campaign to Hamas and ensure that the attacks of October 7th cannot be repeated, as I said, but we also want to see civilians properly accounted for, and right now we don’t believe that there is a way to conduct a military campaign in Rafah without moving some of those civilians and properly accounting for their humanitarian needs.

**QUESTION:** What are the reasons of the State Department for not demanding Hamas immediately release all remaining hostages unconditionally?

**MR MILLER:** I think you’ve missed dozens and dozens of statements from the State Department going back to October 7th – well, it’s actually October 8th by the time that we were aware that hostages should be released, and was the first time the Secretary called for the immediate release of hostages. And he has continued to make that clear; as have I, as has the President. We have demanded time and time again that hostages be released immediately and unconditionally.

Go ahead.

**QUESTION:** Thanks, Matt. I just wanted to circle back to the verbiage used in the draft – UN draft today. I mean, how important is it that you used the word ceasefire as opposed to an extended pause, which is what you’d been using prior?

**MR MILLER:** I will let other people make those sorts of assessments. From a policy perspective, we want to achieve a temporary stop in fighting. You can call that a ceasefire. You can call that a pause. Ultimately, we want to see the fighting stop so hostages can get out, hostages can be released, and humanitarian assistance can get in.

But I should make clear the only kind of temporary ceasefire that is going to achieve a release of hostages is one that’s negotiated. Just calling for a temporary ceasefire is not going to – that Hamas has not agreed to is not going to do anything to get the hostages out, which is why we continue to pursue diplomacy with Israel and with the governments of Egypt and Qatar to try to achieve a temporary ceasefire that would secure the release of hostages. We think that is by far the most productive way forward. It is what achieved a release of more than a hundred hostages last year and what we think should be the productive path for moving forward now.

**QUESTION:** A question about Afghanistan.

**MR MILLER:** Yeah.

**QUESTION:** As you know, the Taliban refused to attend a UN-sponsored conference in Doha that’s concluded yesterday. They didn’t send any delegation, and also they rejected the appointment of a special envoy by UN in Afghanistan. Does the United States still hope to engage with Taliban by considering all of that?

**MR MILLER:** Let me just tell – speak to what we were trying to engage – or what we were trying to achieve by attending this conference. And it’s not surprising that the Taliban, of course, has different objectives. We were trying to achieve a number of things: One, to make clear that Afghanistan should not be a hotbed for terrorist activities that impact other countries; two, a vision for Afghanistan with inclusive institutions in which its diverse groups all feel represented in a state that is truly inclusive; and number three, a concern about the respect of human rights, and in particular the rights of women and girls.

So that’s what we’re going to continue to pursue. I shouldn’t – I can’t say I’m incredibly surprised that the Taliban declined the invitation to participate in a meeting with a broad representation from the international community. But I will say, as you’ve heard us say before, that the Taliban are not the only Afghans who have a stake in the future of Afghanistan. We will continue to support giving all Afghans, including, of course, women and girls, a voice in shaping their country’s future.

**QUESTION:** And the Chinese, Russian, and Iranian envoy into the peace meeting, they refused to meet with the Afghan civil society because they were not greeted by the Taliban regime. Do you support this idea, and what’s your take on that?

**MR MILLER:** So I won’t – I won’t speak to the actions of another country, but I will make clear we always find engagement with civil society to be productive. We try to take actions through our diplomacy to empower civil society, and we would certainly encourage every country in the world to pursue that path.

Let me —

**QUESTION:** Follow-up?

**MR MILLER:** Let me go back to – I promised you I’d come to you a minute ago. Go ahead.

**QUESTION:** Me?

**MR MILLER:** Yeah. Well, now I call on you —

**QUESTION:** Oh, thank you.

**MR MILLER:** — you don’t want a question, after like jumping in for other people – during other people’s questions? (Laughter.)

**QUESTION:** No, I do. Thank you. Thank you, Matt. I’ll be very respectful. I – before I ask you a question, I have to let you know that Assistant Secretary of State Donald Lu was speaking at the Institute of Peace in Washington, D.C., last week. He said that the situation in Burma was not getting better, and what worried him was that the refugee crisis and security problem it was creating for Bangladesh and potentially for India could get deeper in coming days. Quote, “It is something we have to watch out for and enable our partners in the region – in this case Bangladesh and India – to cope with those stresses without it boiling over the instability in their countries as well,” over – I mean cross-border instability. What is your opinion on that? Thank you.

**MR MILLER:** I think it was a well-crafted, well-delivered speech, and I don’t have anything to add to it. (Laughter.)

Go ahead.

**QUESTION:** Thank you.

**QUESTION:** Wow, going out on a limb there. (Laughter.)

**MR MILLER:** Thank you, Matt.

Go ahead.

**QUESTION:** Who?

**MR MILLER:** Yeah.

**QUESTION:** Yeah, thanks. I have two questions. The Houthis have escalated their attacks on ships in the Red Sea during the weekend. One of the attacks targeted or damaged a ship and forced its crew to abandon it. How do you view this escalation and what or how the U.S. will react?

**MR MILLER:** So obviously we continue to condemn the reported reckless and indiscriminate attacks on civilian cargo ships by the Houthis, not just those that were reported to have occurred over the weekend but all those that have been occurring for the past number of weeks. But I just want to mention something specific about one of these attacks this weekend – the attack on the *Sea Champion*. That ship was bringing corn and other food supplies to the Yemeni people in Aden. These were supplies for the Yemeni people, have nothing to do with Israel, have nothing to do with the conflict in Gaza. That of course is what the Houthis have claimed their attacks on civilian ships are trying to impact.

This was a reckless attack on a ship delivering humanitarian assistance to the Yemeni people, and I think it was another sign that the Houthis continue to demonstrate disregard not just for international shipping, not just for supplies that are going to benefit civilians all around the world – in many cases far from the region, but ultimately for their own people. It was a dangerous attack, and the fact that they’re launching these just kind of wanton, indiscriminate attacks – even when they hurt their own people and hurt the provision of supplies to their own people – shows just how reckless their actions have been.

**QUESTION:** And on Lebanon, how do you view the escalation of military operations between Israel and Hizballah? Will the U.S. participate in two conferences that will be held in France and Rome to help increase the Lebanese army capabilities to implement the UN Security Council Resolution 1701?

**MR MILLER:** So we continue to be concerned about the risk of escalation and continue to be concerned about the risk of the conflict widening, and we continue to work to achieve a diplomatic path forward that resolves the legitimate concerns of the Government of Israel and the legitimate concerns of Israeli people who don’t want to move back to the north because they feel that their houses continue to be threatened, their communities continue to be threatened by attacks from Hizballah. So we’re continuing to pursue that diplomatic resolution.

As it pertains to these two conferences – or I think maybe in one of the cases, potential conferences – I don’t have anything to add about possible U.S. participation.

Let me go back here.

**QUESTION:** Thanks.

**MR MILLER:** Yeah.

**QUESTION:** Thank you so much. I have two questions, one about the irregularities in Pakistan election. From the last Monday briefing you have mentioned that United States raised privately and publicly the irregularities matter with Pakistani officials, but ministry of foreign affairs in Islamabad just in last briefing said they are not aware of any bilateral messaging that has taken place post-elections. Meanwhile, what we observed are U.S. ambassador in Pakistan, just after two days after election, held a meeting with former foreign minister of Pakistan. So do United States directed speaking in Pakistan to have engagements with the officials or the politicians?

Secondly, I want to ask regarding the efforts for United States for the Israel-Saudi normalization.

**MR MILLER:** Let me – let me – before we get in – let me ask – let me answer the question you asked, which is I’m not going to talk to private diplomatic engagements, but we have made clear that we want to see any claims of – any – any irregularities or claimed irregularities fully investigated.

Go ahead with the second one.

**QUESTION:** So the October 7th is considered as big damage for diplomatic efforts by U.S. in Saudi-Israeli normalization process, so MBS – the crown prince – reminded two-state solution and he also looking for a timeline from U.S. So Netanyahu’s not, like, bothering this two-state solution, this condition, so what is the time frame after the post-Gaza war, what really the damage repair by the U.S. to repair this, as number of Arab nations have reservations on this. So —

**MR MILLER:** I don’t want to speak to any timetable, but I will say – as, again, you have heard the Secretary say – we continue to work on the establishment of an independent Palestinian state, which we believe doesn’t just benefit the Palestinian people but would benefit the Israeli people and would benefit the entire region. That is something we have heard from a number of Arab partners in the region, including, of course, the Government of Saudi Arabia. And one of the things that the Secretary discussed directly with the crown prince and heard directly from the crown prince was that the – Saudi Arabia was not prepared to pursue normalization or was not prepared to agree to normalization, I should say, without the establishment of an independent Palestinian state.

Go ahead.

**QUESTION:** Can I just raise the extradition hearing of Julian Assange, which has taken place at the high court in London today, and his lawyers have repeated an allegation saying that there is evidence of – that a plan was discussed to either kill or kidnap Assange while he was in the Ecuadoran embassy in London. Mark Summers KC, Assange’s lawyer, is saying senior CIA officials requested plans; the president himself – that’s President Trump – requested on being provided with options on how to do it and sketches were drawn up. Is there any comment?

**MR MILLER:** No, I – I’m not going to comment on an ongoing extradition matter.

**QUESTION:** Can I just ask a follow-up to that, please?

**QUESTION:** Well —

**MR MILLER:** Go ahead, Matt. Go ahead.

**QUESTION:** Well – and I mean, I want to go back to what you were talking about a bit earlier, and that is just – the question is whether the administration regards Julian Assange as a journalist.

**MR MILLER:** So with respect to that question, I think I should decline to comment in detail because, as I said, it is an ongoing extradition matter and it’s an ongoing legal matter. This is a case which is under indictment. But I will just say generally that I have never heard a journalist say that, as a legitimate journalistic practice, to help a source hack into a government computer to steal information. It’s not a legitimate journalistic activity to hack into anything to steal government information, so I think I will leave it at that.

**QUESTION:** Well, okay. Well, that suggests, then, that you don’t. I’m – and I want to specifically avoid getting into what the Justice Department has to say about this case. I want to talk about what the State Department believes about his status, Assange’s status, because you guys are self-proclaimed champions of independent, free press. You are all the time saying journalism is not a crime and this kind of thing. So if you believe that what Julian Assange has been doing or was – or did is journalism, I don’t see how you can – I don’t see how that squares with —

**MR MILLER:** So —

**QUESTION:** And if you don’t, are you saying, from your comment just now, that you don’t regard him as a journalist, because he accepted or allowed or helped someone hack into computers? Is that – is —

**MR MILLER:** So again, I’m at a limit to what I can say about an ongoing legal matter that is under indictment. I remember from my days as the Department of Justice spokesperson that it was —

**QUESTION:** Yes, exactly, which I think has probably colored your personal – your personal reaction to it.

**MR MILLER:** Let me just – let me – no, let me just finish this answer, that it’s not appropriate for government officials to speak at length about matters that remain under indictment. We support an independent, free press in the United States; we support an independent, free press around the world. We feel that an independent, free press not just benefits the people of the United States, it benefits those of us in government by making us work harder, by making us be ready to explain what we’re doing, by making us think through the decisions that we are making and making sure that they fully represent the best interests of the American people. And we think that same process holds true everywhere in the world, and that’s why you see dictators and autocrats and others crack down on independent, free press.

At the same time, helping someone hack into – which is a crime; hacking is a crime, right – helping someone hack into a government network or a private network, for that regard, is not something I think any journalist considers to be a legitimate journalism activity.

**QUESTION:** Okay. Do you not think then that what was published as a result of hacks into the government database, especially as it relates to State Department cables, which are – many, many thousands of them, and that were then published by an independent, free press – you don’t see a problem here with the —

**MR MILLER:** I think —

**QUESTION:** — prosecution or attempted prosecution, the indictment, and your stated view that you think that this kind of activity should be protected?

**MR MILLER:** Again, if you look at the conduct that is alleged in the indictment, when it comes to helping someone hack into a government network, that is a very different type of activity.

**QUESTION:** So – but publishing it is not —

**MR MILLER:** I am not going to get into the ongoing details of what is a – probably gone too far already in discussing this case – the ongoing detail – the details of what is very much a live, ongoing litigation matter.

**QUESTION:** Well, do you not think the publication of these documents, when they came out, back – the original ones, the ones that Chelsea Manning provided to WikiLeaks, and when they were published by *The New York Times* and *El País* and all the – and others, do you not think that that helped informed public discussion? Do you not think that those – that that was useful?

**MR MILLER:** So I – let me say this, because I’m not going to speak to that specific case, for the reasons I just articulated. But I will say that two things can often be true when it comes to the publication of classified government documents. It is true that at times the publication of a classified government document, well, will inform the public, and sometimes it will uncover wrongdoing. It’s also true that sometimes the publication of classified government documents serves no underlying purpose and can jeopardize sources and methods that the government uses to keep the American public safe. So it is a very difficult situation. It is a – I think one of the trickiest questions the government faces in navigating this area. But I can tell you that we try to do it as responsibly as we can.

All right. Over here. And then —

**QUESTION:** Good to see you, Matt.

**MR MILLER:** Yeah.

**QUESTION:** And thank you so much for taking. I have two questions, if you will allow. First, I’d like to talk about the anniversary of the war in Ukraine that is coming up. And as you rightly know at the very start of the war African countries – there was sort of an outright split, right, some ambivalence in the support to Ukraine. So I’m seeking your assessment on U.S. efforts – I’m not saying that you – we’ve had this conversation and narrative about is or is the U.S. not trying to ask African countries to pick a side. That’s not what my question is. My question is to ask, while we recognize that garnering international support for Ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity is important, what over the two years has been your efforts, the U.S., in garnering international support in terms of African countries?

And then my second question is on Guinea.

**MR MILLER:** Let me take that one first. So I will say that we have engaged in countries all over the world – not just in Africa, but of course across the world – to urge them to support Ukraine and support its efforts to defend itself from Russian aggression. We think when you see any country’s sovereign borders violated, see its – control of its territory violated, that it threatens all countries around the world. Because it is ultimately the UN Charter that upholds the territorial integrity and sovereignty of every country in the world.

And I will just say we – not just because of our efforts, although they have helped, but because I think we’ve seen countries in the world outraged by Russia’s activities – we have seen a number of UN resolutions, including ones that were joined by dozens of African countries, in support of holding those – of upholding those principles of the UN Charter, of Ukraine’s territorial integrity and ultimately finding a comprehensive, just, and durable peace that recognizes those principles.

**QUESTION:**Sure. And then on Guinea, if I may – and this will be my last question to you, Matt – since yesterday, as you may already know, there is no leadership in Guinea. I think there is currently maybe some low-level leadership. They dissolved the government. And so while I appreciate that you will not comment on the internal affairs of another country, I am asking you to see if you can comment on your own efforts and how you might be engaging any stakeholders in Guinea or in that part of the world, for that matter, or any regional organization besides ECOWAS, which may seem more weakened. Are there any other countries that you may be engaging – Angola, South Africa, Kenya – in your efforts in this regard?

**MR MILLER:**Sure. So we are closely monitoring developments in Guinea. We encourage the transition authorities to work with ECOWAS. It’s something we’ve discussed with a number of ECOWAS states and – to continue positive momentum by holding a constitutional referendum and elections in order to complete democratic governance. We remain concerned about media restrictions placed on the Guinean people and calls on the – and call on the transition authorities to ensure that freedoms of peaceful assembly and expression are fully respected, including from members of the press. And we are engaging with a number of countries in the region around those goals.

**QUESTION:**Can I just do one more on Africa?

**MR MILLER:**Yeah. Yeah, one more and then – Humeyra, did you have one?

**QUESTION:**Sorry.

**MR MILLER:**We’ll do that.

**QUESTION:**But just one more on Africa. Rwanda-DRC – you issued a statement on Saturday, I believe it was, on the – so the DRC is alleging Rwandan involvement in the drone attack in – on the airport. Besides the statement, has there been any response from Rwanda? Are you confident that there’s some progress in there? How do you see things going —

**MR MILLER:**I don’t have any update on the situation since we released that statement over the weekend.

**QUESTION:**But is it – do you find the DRC allegations credible for Rwandan involvement in this?

**MR MILLER:**I don’t have anything to add beyond what we said over the weekend.

Humeyra, and then we’ll finish up.

**QUESTION:**Matt, there were some incidents off the coast of Taiwan in the past couple of days. China’s coast guard boarded a Taiwanese tourist boat, and on Tuesday Taiwan drove away a Chinese coast guard boat that entered its waters. Are you guys worried about like any escalating tensions? Have you seen that?

**MR MILLER:**Yeah, we are closely monitoring Beijing’s actions. We continue to urge restraint and no unilateral change to the status quo, which has preserved peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait and throughout the region for decades. We urge the PRC to engage in meaningful dialogue with Taiwan to reduce the risk of miscalculation. And we share with other countries, not just in the region but around the world, an abiding interest in peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait and in the broader Indo-Pacific region, which impact global security and prosperity.

And with that, we’ll wrap for today.

**QUESTION:**Thank you.

**MR MILLER:**Thanks, everyone.

(The briefing was concluded at 2:32 p.m.)

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