RE: EPA Review of B&J Hydrocarbon Cabinet

Guy Berliner to: Monica Shimamura, Pete.Gosselin 10/16/2008 04:49 PM

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No problem, just throw out some dates when you all have them.

Take care,

Guy

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From: Shimamura.Monica@epamail.epa.gov [

mailto:Shimamura.Monica@epamail.epa.gov]

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:33 PM

To: Gosselin, Pete

Cc: Gerrard, Alan; bill.soper@calvertmechinc.com; Godwin.Dave@epamail.epa.gov;

Guy Berliner; Satink, Jeannie; Flowers,Jim; Sheppard.Margaret@epamail.epa.gov;

mark@konoprefrigeration.com

Subject: RE: EPA Review of B&J Hydrocarbon Cabinet

Thanks for understanding at the last minute. Looking forward to meeting

with you soon, Guy!

Cheers,

Monica

Monica Shimamura

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency

Stratospheric Protection Division

1200 Pennsylvania Ave. NW (6205J)

Washington DC 20460

(tel) 202.343.9337

(fax) 202.343.2362

Address for hand delivery (UPS/Fed Ex/etc):

1310 L St. NW, 10th Floor (1027N)

Washington DC 20005

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 "Guy Berliner" 

 10/16/2008 04:30 <guy@berlinerfoods.com>, Monica 

 PM Shimamura/DC/USEPA/US@EPA 

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 "Gerrard, Alan" 

 <Alan.Gerrard@unilever.com>, 

 <bill.soper@calvertmechinc.com>, 

 Dave Godwin/DC/USEPA/US@EPA, 

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 RE: EPA Review of B&J Hydrocarbon

 Cabinet 

 

Monica,

As there is no hard deadline here, I would like to take you up on your

suggestion for having a single, efficient meeting that covers everything

the EPA would like to see. Let's postpone until we have R290 in hand

and can go through recovery and recharge. I will follow up with our

R290 supplier and get back to everyone with a later date to go through

the cabinet.

Guy,

Thanks again for your hospitality. We will count on you as we get

another date together for this.

.pete.

-----Original Message-----

From: Guy Berliner [mailto:guy@berlinerfoods.com]

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:19 PM

To: Shimamura.Monica@epamail.epa.gov; Gosselin, Pete

Cc: Gerrard, Alan; bill.soper@calvertmechinc.com;

Godwin.Dave@epamail.epa.gov; Satink, Jeannie;

Sheppard.Margaret@epamail.epa.gov; mark@konoprefrigeration.com

Subject: RE: EPA Review of B&J Hydrocarbon Cabinet

From our vantage point, whatever works best for all of you will be fine

here. Just let me know and we'll make it happen.

Guy Berliner

-----Original Message-----

From: Shimamura.Monica@epamail.epa.gov

[mailto:Shimamura.Monica@epamail.epa.gov]

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:07 PM

To: Gosselin, Pete

Cc: Gerrard, Alan; bill.soper@calvertmechinc.com;

Godwin.Dave@epamail.epa.gov; Guy Berliner; Satink, Jeannie;

Sheppard.Margaret@epamail.epa.gov; mark@konoprefrigeration.com

Subject: RE: EPA Review of B&J Hydrocarbon Cabinet

Hi Pete,

Thank you for your e-mail. I completely understand about the lack of

R-290!

It might be more efficient on both sides to combine the two meetings

(looking at the cabinet and walking through the recovery and recharge

process). Therefore is it possible to reschedule the meeting for when

you expect to have the R-290? I hope we are not inconveniencing you and
your staff by changing the meeting so late in the game but it might make

more sense.

Please let me know if you agree with canceling our meeting tomorrow.

Cheers,

Monica

Monica Shimamura

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency

Stratospheric Protection Division

1200 Pennsylvania Ave. NW (6205J)

Washington DC 20460

(tel) 202.343.9337

(fax) 202.343.2362

Address for hand delivery (UPS/Fed Ex/etc):

1310 L St. NW, 10th Floor (1027N)

Washington DC 20005

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 "Gosselin, Pete"

 <Pete.Gosselin@b

 enjerry.com> To

 Monica Shimamura/DC/USEPA/US@EPA,

 10/16/2008 03:44 "Guy Berliner"

 PM <guy@berlinerfoods.com>

 cc

 "Gerrard, Alan"

 <Alan.Gerrard@unilever.com>,

 <bill.soper@calvertmechinc.com>,

 Dave Godwin/DC/USEPA/US@EPA,

 "Satink, Jeannie"

 <Jeannie.Satink@unilever.com>,

 Margaret

 Sheppard/DC/USEPA/US@EPA,

 <mark@konoprefrigeration.com>

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 RE: EPA Review of B&J Hydrocarbon

 Cabinet

Hello Monica,

In order to view the working elements of the freezer, recovery and

recharge is not necessarily required. However, I understand why this

process would of interest. We are currently working through some issues

with getting our service contractors canisters of R290. With no

domestic market for R290, supply is not simple. Given this, if Calvert
Mechanical were to recover refrigerant, we would not have gas on hand to

recharge, rendering one of our 50 precious cabinets inoperable. In

order to keep as many working cabinets available to our distributor as

possible, I would not recommend going through this part of the service

process tomorrow.

However, we expect to have R290 to Calvert within the next few weeks and

would welcome you to walk through the recovery and recharge process at

that time. We can work out the appropriate venue for this event at that

time.

Thanks for your understanding.

Pete Gosselin

Gearhead

Ben & Jerry's Homemade, Inc.

30 Community Dr.

South Burlington, VT 05403

802 846 1543 x7636

802 345 5858 - Mobile

-----Original Message-----

From: Shimamura.Monica@epamail.epa.gov

[mailto:Shimamura.Monica@epamail.epa.gov]

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:31 PM

To: Guy Berliner

Cc: Gerrard, Alan; bill.soper@calvertmechinc.com;

Godwin.Dave@epamail.epa.gov; Satink, Jeannie;

Sheppard.Margaret@epamail.epa.gov; mark@konoprefrigeration.com;

Gosselin, Pete

Subject: RE: EPA Review of B&J Hydrocarbon Cabinet

Hi Guy,

As we were discussing at EPA about tomorrow's meeting - we wondering if

opening up the cabinets will require refrigerant recovery and recharge

of the cabinet? We would be interested in seeing that to see how that

would be done safely.

Thanks!

Monica

Monica Shimamura

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency

Stratospheric Protection Division

1200 Pennsylvania Ave. NW (6205J)

Washington DC 20460

(tel) 202.343.9337

(fax) 202.343.2362

Address for hand delivery (UPS/Fed Ex/etc):

1310 L St. NW, 10th Floor (1027N)

Washington DC 20005

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 "Guy Berliner"

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 ds.com> To

 "Gosselin, Pete"

 10/06/2008 05:34 <Pete.Gosselin@benjerry.com>,

 PM <mark@konoprefrigeration.com>,

 <bill.soper@calvertmechinc.com>

 cc

 Monica Shimamura/DC/USEPA/US@EPA,

 Dave Godwin/DC/USEPA/US@EPA,

 Margaret

 Sheppard/DC/USEPA/US@EPA,

 "Satink, Jeannie"

 <Jeannie.Satink@unilever.com>,

 "Gerrard, Alan"

 <Alan.Gerrard@unilever.com>

 Subject

 RE: EPA Review of B&J Hydrocarbon

 Cabinet

We are located at 5101 Buchanan St., Hyattsville, MD. 20781. Whatever

time/day that works for all the parties will be fine with us.

Guy Berliner

From: Gosselin, Pete [mailto:Pete.Gosselin@benjerry.com]

Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:26 AM

To: mark@konoprefrigeration.com; bill.soper@calvertmechinc.com; Guy

Berliner

Cc: Shimamura.Monica@epamail.epa.gov; godwin.dave@epa.gov;

sheppard.margaret@epa.gov; Satink, Jeannie; Gerrard, Alan

Subject: EPA Review of B&J Hydrocarbon Cabinet

Gentlemen,

As you know we launched our US test market of Hydrocarbon freezer

cabinets last week. I wanted to thank each of you for your support of

this initiative. Without the willingness of key distributors to place

these cabinets into our business and the necessary service support on

the ground where we have installed them, this important test could not

go forward. We realize it is never easy or convenient being the

pioneers. Ben & Jerry's / Unilever appreciates you all going the extra

mile.

We met with the EPA last Tuesday 9/30 to review our SNAP application to

consider the ongoing allowance of HC freezer cabinets in the US. During

our meeting several questions came up about the design and arrangement

of the working elements of the cabinet we have in test market. I

invited the EPA to "take a look under the hood" and to get a better

understanding of the systems we are proposing. To make this happen in

an efficient way, I would like to enlist your help once again.

I was hoping that one of the HC trained service technicians from Calvert
Mechanical could open and review the elements of the freezer compartment

with the necessary members of the EPA team. A more appropriate setting

for this review might be at the Berliner's warehouse rather than a

cabinet already placed in a commercial environment.

Guy, could Berliner's host this informal review if we can arrange a

quiet corner of your warehouse and timing that works for you? Could you

remind me where the warehouse storing the cabinets is located in the

Balt/Wash area?

Bill / Mark, could one of the HC trained service techs at Calvert be

made available to help here if appropriate timing can be arranged?

If you all could let me know what timing works for you and/or other

logistics that need to be considered to put this together that would be

great. Once we can pin down some likely times that work for Berliner's

and Calvert, I will coordinate with the folks at the EPA. Once again,

thanks for you help and don't hesitate to give me a call if you would

like to discuss this further.

Pete Gosselin

Gearhead

Ben & Jerry's Homemade, Inc.

30 Community Dr.

South Burlington, VT 05403.

802 846 1543 x7636

802 345 5858 - Mobile