-----Original Message----- 

From: Llenza, Charles [mailto:Charles.Llenza@ee.doe.gov] 

Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 7:00 PM 

To: Edwards, Brenda 

Cc: Poston, Mona; Jeffers, Debbie DOE; Lewis, Ronald 

Subject: FW: AHRI Meeting (RIN 1904-AB59, Docket# EE-2006-STD-0126) & (Docket No. 

EERE-2008-BT-STD-0015, RIN # 1904-AB86) 

Please place the attached memo into the CRE docket (RIN 1904-AB59, 

Docket# EE-2006-STD-0126) and the WICF docket (Docket No. 

EERE-2008-BT-STD-0015, RIN # 1904-AB86) . 

Thanks 

 

Charles Llenza 

Project Manager/Engineer 

US Department of Energy 

(202)586-2192(work) 

(202)287-1590(fax) 

Charles.Llenza@ee.doe.gov 

-----Original Message----- 

From: Lewis, Ronald 

Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:03 AM 

To: Llenza, Charles 

Subject: FW: AHRI Meeting 

Please make sure that this memo is placed into the CRE docket. 

-----Original Message----- 

From: Pinto, Francine 

Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 10:55 AM 

To: Lewis, Ronald 

Cc: Kido, Michael 

Subject: 

Dear Ron, 

 Here is a draft of a memo memoralizing yesterday's meeting and 

that will need to be put in the docket of the CRE rulemaking. Please 

review and make any suggested changes. You can send the revised version 

back to us for q quick look-see. Thanks. 

 Francine 

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TO: THE DOCKET 

THROUGH: [EE TO INSERT, IF NECESSARY] 

 

FROM: [EE TO INSERT] 

RE: MEETING WITH AHRI ON 12/02/2008 

On December 2, 2008, representatives of EERE (David Rodgers and Ron Lewis) and GC 

(Francine Pinto and Michael Kido) met with the Air-Conditioning, Heating, and 

Refrigeration Institute (AHRI) to discuss a variety of issues. Participants from AHRI 

were Karim Amrane, David Calabrese, Don Davis, and Robert Helmniak. (AHRI was 

also represented by outside counsel -- Lisa Jaeger of Bracewell & Giuliani). 

AHRI raised issues concerning three separate rulemaking activities. First, with respect to 

the pending commercial refrigeration equipment final rule, AHRI indicated its belief that 

the available data in the record supported the adoption of trial standard level (TSL) 3, as 

described in the notice of proposed rulemaking (NOPR). The group added that it would 

be comfortable with TSL4, the level proposed by DOE. 

Second, AHRI asked about the status of amendments to incorporate the statutory 

requirements added by Congress in the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 

for walk-in coolers and freezers. EERE explained that an amendment is forthcoming. 

AHRI suggested that manufacturers have been submitting questions concerning the 

interpretation of provisions in EISA 2007 concerning walk-in coolers and freezers. 

AHRI stated that it is developing a Q&A document to address the issues raised by 

affected businesses. EERE indicated that it would consider reviewing the questions raised 

by manufacturers and posting guidance on EERE’s web site. 

 

Third, AHRI expressed its interest in having the ANOPR process continue for the water 

heater rulemaking so that DOE would continue soliciting comments and providing its 

preliminary analyses to stakeholders prior to the NOPR. EERE explained that EISA 

2007 eliminated the ANOPR requirement for residential products and that DOE is trying 

to find a way to get early stakeholder input as accomplished by the ANOPR and at the 

same time expedite the rulemaking process so that DOE can meet all of its deadlines. 

DOE is therefore not going to issue an ANOPR for water heaters but instead issue a 

notice of public meeting for water heaters which is designed to solicit input from 

stakeholders and give participants the same opportunity to present their views as before. 

AHRI also generally inquired about the availability of comments through the DOE 

website. EERE explained that it was very close to having a system available for this 

purpose. 

EERE also sought information from AHRI regarding the manner in which to implement 

the ENERGY STAR program for water heaters and work force development with respect 

to industries represented by AHRI. AHRI responded that it would provide a follow-up 

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response to EERE. AHRI also inquired about possible differences between the ENERGY 

STAR criteria followed by DOE and Natural Resources Canada. EERE responded that it 

was unaware of any differences but would follow-up on the issue. 

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