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Melanie,

In regards to your question to Lisa, I don't believe we have a good idea of

controls on engines under 500 HP at major sources of HAP. We're currently

reviewing each of our state's policies and records on CI and SI RICE. Of the

12 rich burn SI found so far from the review, none have controls like NSCR

(but I imagine they do have some sort after treatment device as supplied by

the manufacturer). 6 of the 12 have a limit on hourly operations.

Sorry we're not of much help, but please give me a call if you would like to

discuss further.

Thanks

Eric Sturm

Environmental Engineer | EPA | R7 Air Compliance | (P)913.551.7377 |

(C)402.310.4211

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Eric,

Based on what I have done so far, I can positively identify 12 rich burn RICE;

11 in Nebraska and 1 in Iowa. However, I do not have enough detail information

several other RICE in both of these states to say that there are not more. As

for Missouri and Kansas; I do not as yet have enough detail information to be

able to specify the RICE types.

For the 12 known; none that I am aware of have specific controls. 3 are

"stand-by units and 3 are emergency generators that are limited to the amount

of run-time per year.

As I get more detailed information I hope to be able to get to this kind of

detail.

Bob

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Bob,

From your research so far from permits for engines/compressor stations, did

you find any rich burn spark ignition engines with controls? If so, what kind

of controls? Also, how many rich burn SI engines did you find total?

Thanks

Eric Sturm

Environmental Engineer | EPA | R7 Air Compliance | (P)913.551.7377 |

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Lisa Hanlon

EPA Region 7

901 N. 5th St.

Kansas City, KS 66101

913.551.7599

hanlon.lisa@epa.gov

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Hi Lisa, I'm hoping you can help me with a question. We're trying to get a

handle on what the current landscape is for rich burn spark ignition (gasfired) engines in terms of how many of the existing engines that are already

in use have emission controls (non-selective catalytic reduction or NSCR)

installed. The reason I'm asking this is that we are looking at what the

impacts of the upcoming final NESHAP for existing spark ignition engines would

be if controls were required for those engines, and it would be helpful if we

had some idea of how many of them already have these controls even in the

absence of the NESHAP.

The engines we'd be concerned with are those that are <500 HP at major sources

of HAP and any HP at area sources of HAP, since we already have limits on the

ones that are >500 HP at major sources. Do you know of any estimates of how

many of these engines are controlled for the states in Region 7?

Melanie King

Energy Strategies Group

Sector Policies and Programs Division

Office of Air Quality Planning and Standards U.S. Environmental Protection

Agency

Mail Code D243-01

RTP, NC 27711

Phone: (919) 541-2469

Fax: (919) 541-5450

king.melanie@epa.gov