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Subject: RE: MV Liquid‐immersed LCC and NIA Results

Chris,

As we discussed on the phone last week, regarding the sensitivity analysis and specifically how wide to

cast the net in terms of amorphous cost, I would recommend using the AK Steel presentation as

guidance.

The reason I'm recommending this is because it was based on actual analysis rather than just being

arbitrarily chosen.  So in considering dTSL1, the cost of amorphous is shown to be approximately

$2000/ton greater for M3 than for amorphous, thus $1/lb would seem appropriate.

For evaluating dTSL2, M3 has a $5000/ton disadvantage, so $2.50/lb would be appropriate.  For dTSL3

and beyond, you're going to have to extrapolate, but it will not be a small or inconsequential amount.

Best Regards,

Aaron
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From: Christopher Bolduc [mailto:cabolduc@lbl.gov]

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Subject: MV Liquid‐immersed LCC and NIA Results

Dear Committee Members,

Please find the draft LCC and NIA results for liquid‐immersed medium‐voltage transformers (design lines

1 ‐ 5) attached.

A summary of changes and additional sensitivities will be distributed before next week's meeting.

Thank you,
‐‐ Chris Bolduc

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Chris Bolduc

Energy Efficiency Standards Group

Environmental Energy Technologies Division Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory t. 416‐535‐7546 c.

647‐832‐4021