**Transcript of Cyberseminar**

**VIReC Clinical Informatics**

**Patient Search Tool: CPRS Extension**

**Presenter: Rachel Cornett, PharmD**

**October 15, 2013**

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**Joanne Stevens:**Welcome everyone. As Heidi indicated, the title of today’s session is “*Patient Search Tool: CPRS Extension*.” This session is part of the VA Information Resource Center’s ongoing Clinical Informatics Cyberseminar series. The series aims are to provide information about research and quality improvement applications in clinical informatics, and also information about approaches for evaluating clinical informatic applications. We would like to thank CIDER for providing technical and promotional support for this series. As Heidi also indicated, questions will be monitored during the talk and the Q and A portion of Adobe Connect, and will be presented at the end of the session to our speaker. 

A brief evaluation questionnaire will pop up on your screen when we close the session. If possible, we request that you stay with us until the very end, and take a few moments to complete it. Please let us know if there is a specific topic area or suggested speaker that you would like us to consider for future sessions. At this time, I would like to introduce our speaker for today, Dr. Rachel Cornett. Dr. Cornett is a Clinical Pharmacist in Outpatient Pharmacy at the North Florida, South Georgia Veterans Health System in Gainesville, Florida. Without further ado, may I present Dr. Cornett. 

**Dr. Cornett:**Thank you, JoAnn, this is Rachael Cornett, coming to you from Gainesville, Florida, the North Florida, South Georgia VA Medical. Today, I would like to present in the Cyberseminar my innovation initiative idea, Patient Search Tool: CPRS Extension. 

Our objectives today will be to describe the innovation process, the goals of innovation, the CPRS Search Tool itself, and the potential benefits of the tool. Our problem statement is currently the Notes and Labs Sections of CPRS, or Computerized Patient Record System has text and data search function capabilities. Many other components of CPRS contain a large amount of data and other information, and it is very inefficient to manually search these records. Providers, nurses, and other allied health professionals waste valuable time searching for data and other care related information that could quickly be retrieved with a search tool. 

As they mentioned, I am a Pharmacist and I came up with this idea when I was working in Kansas City as the Investigational Drugs Pharmacist. I would have to search BCMA records for each instance a medication was administered to a study patient during a hospital stay, which was quite tedious. And I wish CPRS had a search tool like many other programs. Today, if you search the progress notes for text, it only pulls up every note that contains that text. You have to open each note and read it, sometimes in its entirety, to find the text you are looking for. It is not bold or highlighted. 

So, as a description of idea was to identify additional components of CPRS that would benefit from a keyword or a key term search option. And develop a method for CPRS users to be able to utilize the keyword or key term search tool in those identified CPRS components. 

Strategic goals are to improve care quality, CPRS users will be able to obtain important care related information that was previously missed, improve efficiency and access. We could reduce the time we spend researching care related information in CPRS, which will improve our workflow, efficiency and increase patient access to care. And it can help the organizational requirements. 

When I was a Research Pharmacist, we were required to document serious adverse events and this would help in that area and medication logs would be met in a more timely fashion. In my current position, in outpatient, we have to verify inpatient medication for outpatients for or IMO’s. These are orders given to patients in the ambulatory care clinic for mainly injections and vaccines. We often need to know if a patient has had a particular vaccine because having an old order for a vaccine does not necessarily prove the injection was given. And we have to search several areas of CPRS to find out. For example, we might want to know if the patient was given tetanus contained in Tdap. This can have a ten-year time frame of records to search, and having a search tool would make this much more efficient.

How do we measure if our tool is successful? The functional prototype success metric would be providers will be able to quickly search CRPS for keywords in additional components. And the expected results are reduce accidental duplication of therapy and reduce the time required to invest a prior treatment of patients. This is expected to reduce the time spent searching CPRS for specific information by as much as 75%. 

Our technical approach is to program the search function into additional components of CPRS and have this program similar to that sound in Microsoft Office applications or Adobe programs which highlights the search word.  

I would like to take a moment to get to know a little bit about my audience and have a polling question. So in which are of expertise do you work. Do you work in Clinical or Health Fields, Information and Technology, or Administrative or other? 

**Joanne Stevens:**We will just give that a few more seconds for the audience to respond and then we will show and go through those results. And it looks like things have slowed down, you can probably read through those results Rachel.

**Dr. Cornett:**Okay, it looks like we have about 32% Clinical, 9% Information and Technology, 18% Administrative, and almost 40% other. That is interesting. Okay, initially I thought, when I submitted my innovation idea, I thought I was just throwing an idea out into the universe and somebody else would do all the work. But, as part of the innovation process, you play a large part in the actual development of your idea. And I had the idea in Kansas City in the first – the first team I worked with included Spencer Schaefer, who is now the Assistant Chief, he is a Pharm. D., and Donna Hoppe, a Clinical Applications Coordinator, CAC. They work with CPRS users to develop order sets and improve CPRS. And I wanted, an intuitive and experienced clinical application team to develop the non-programmer related aspects of the tool. 

And when I moved back to Gainesville to be closer to my dad, I worked with Elaine Hill and Scott Anderson, both Pharm. D.’s. Elaine Hill is one of our primo Clinical Pharmacists out in Primary Care and Scott Anderson is currently our Ad PAC. And my Innovation Coordinators started with Jim McCain, he helped me get this off the ground, and then one of the roadblocks we encountered in the development of my innovation Jim changed jobs and I got lost in the shuffle. That my innovation fell to the wayside. But I was rescued by Brian Stevenson who is my current Innovation Coordinator, and has been a great help in developing the tool.     

So the innovations, the awards are contracted out. They are not developed at the local level. And as part of the implementation process, I was able to travel to the Technology and Acquisition Center in Eatontown, New Jersey. It was an eye-opening experience not just driving on the New Jersey Turnpike and making the jug handle turns, but very exciting to see an area that I had no prior experience with, and to learn completely new things. Jennifer Swick, and Jelica Potter of the TAC helped with the initial request for information. We also had to develop a budget. We sent out formal solicitations. When we got those back, we did technical evaluations. This is something that my teams at each site helped me with. And then contracting is taken over by the TAC, by Sarah Basilotto coordinated most of that. That the contracting was something I was completely unfamiliar with as a pharmacist. And initial request for information, that is for information in planning only. It is not the formal solicitation. It is used to identify contractors able to meet our needs, see if it is already commercially available, and determine a contract type. After we get those back, we develop the business plan and outline the development on a timeline, and also develop requirements for implementation. 

So after we sent out the solicitations, the vendors who answered were evaluated on their strengths and weaknesses in several categories. Our teams identified components that would benefit from a search tool by completing a survey of end users. We wanted to know who is going to use it, how will they use it, what will benefit them. And then we evaluated the vendors in the following strengths and weaknesses. 

· Their understanding of the problem.

· Their Delphi and Mumps programming experience.

· Their ability to confine the search tool to the CPRS Program.

· To show us mockups of the end product.

· The categories and proposed rates were evaluated by the TAC.

Now, it is very important, it was very important for me from the beginning that  web based products were not acceptable. We did not want a product that would crawl through private and protected health information through the internet. We wanted the tool confined to CPRS. 

You may be wondering why there are pictures of a Grecian Temple on your screen during a cyberseminar. Well I mentioned Delphi and Mumps programming. Mumps is the programming language of this style, which handles large databases. Its name is derived from Massachusetts General Hospital Utility Multi-Programming. Delphi is the programming language of CPRS, and CPRS is a GUI, or Graphical User Interface of Vista. So it takes the large amounts of data and presents it in a user-friendly visual format, hence the Delphi connection. The oracle at the Delphi in Greek Mythology was rendered psychic by Apollo and would have visions. She answered questions posed to her by the worshipers at the Delphi. And that is the connection.

So after we evaluated all of the different offers who answered our solicitations, document storage systems of Juno Beach, Florida, was selected to create the dynamic linked library, or “.dll” of the search tool. They had an outstanding technical evaluation rating and they, along with our teams, have successfully developed and tested the tool in the sandbox. A dynamic linked library is a library that contains code and data that can be used by more than program at the same time. By using a .dll, a program can be modularized into separate components and updates are easier to apply to each module without affecting other parts of the program. Most of the slides from here on out are based on the user’s manual developed by DSS.     

So we added the search tool by the drop-down menus of CPRS and it is not a drop down menu itself. If you look at the bottom part of the picture, when the mouse is over search, it is a launcher, it looks more like a button. When you click that button, this is what you will see. Now this is a fuzzy, bizzy, large flag and what we are going to do throughout the presentation is blowup different areas of it and explain what they do. 

So one thing I want to make clear is the search tool only searches within the selected patient. It does not run across patients. And you can see from just a brief overview, you can choose filters, display preferences or document classes. You have the option of doing a quick search or a complex search and you can also set up your CPU usage so you will not slow down your computer if you want to continue to work in CPRS while the search is running. But I will expand on that later. 

So if we blow up the upper left hand corner of the previous slide, you have three drop down menus. In the lower right, you will see file, options and help. Under file, you can choose to open searches you may have saved. This would be useful if you will frequently search for the same types of information and it only saves the search perimeters, not the results. Because the results are going to be particular to the patient that you are in. 

Under options, you can choose what color you wish your results to be displayed. And I will show you a slide of this later. You can also choose if you want to do a document search or a title search. And this arrow at the bottom of that drop down menu shows results on completion. If you have that enabled, your search will pop up with it is complete. You may not want the results to pop up on you if you are working in CPRS on something else while the search is running. 

Now the upper tool bar, we have blown it up, and you can see that you have these three buttons, search terms, quick search and over on the right, CPU priority. I better go back. I cannot remember if I mentioned you can do a title search if you just want to search for titles or you can do a full document search, which is probably what most of us will be doing. 

Now CPU priority. CPU stands for Central Processing Unit. And the CPU Priority Box has two radial buttons. CPRS Application, which is, in this instance blue, and CPRS Search Tool. The search tool shares central processing unit allocation with CPRS. So to speed the search tool retrieval, you can set the priority to the search tool. It also affects the speed of the document processing on the display pane in the search results tab which we will see later. If you want your other activities in CPRS to have priority while a search is running, you would choose the CPRS Application. 

Now we are blowing up the upper left hand corner of the search tool. Primarily the search tool has two main parts, Standard Search and Advanced Search. The Advanced Search allows you to include date ranges and also specifications for each searchable area of CPRS, notes ordered and reports. This is a blowup of the lower portion of the search tool and this initiates the search button in the middle, actually initiates your search. You can also clear all fields, save a standard search, cancel a search in progress if you change your mind, and close the tool when you are finished using it. 

Now when you click on this Standard Search tab, this is what you will see. You can click in the search terms field and type in keywords to search for, separated by a space, not a comma. And then under it you will see the number of next results. You choose the number of instances you want to display. The higher the number, the more results, but it would also take more time. And the first area, TIU Notes, that stands for Text Integration Utilities and that is just a set of software tools designed to handle clinical documents in a standardized manner with a single interface revealing. And this, for us, includes discharge summary and progress notes in CPRS. That is what we would look at.

In the Order Section, active orders is the default status. So you can select other order statuses using the dropdown menu after orders. And note that at the bottom, select reports, let me move my arrow down there, that is helpful, but if you click on the reports, and you choose select reports, this is not for running reports, but for searching different areas of the reports tab, which has many types of reports. And this is exciting for me because that is part of CPRS I frequently work in, and there are lots and lots of reports to pick from. 

So after you get your results, they are going to be divided into two halves. On the left is the drillable list of results, that is where they would appear. And on the right would be the detail pane. This will be more clear on the next slide. This is what I was talking about if the show results on search completion option is selection, this tab will automatically display when you are finished, when the search is finished. 

And now we can see where you can the color. You can pick what color you want your search text to appear in. This will make it a lot easier for find the text itself. That excites me. 

So here we have an example for a standard search for Lidocaine. On the left you see the drillable list of all searchable sections that contain the word Lidocaine. Each section on the left can be expanded. So this user has chosen to do the second instance of a consult to expand. On the right hand side we see that he has chosen red and every instance of the word Lidocaine is displayed in red and bold. And like I said before, currently the results just show the notes in which it was found and you have to open each one and hunt pretty hard to find the actual word you are looking for. So this is a great advantage. I love that color and bold for your highlighted search. 

If you want to save your search, for example I would probably do a lot of vaccine type searches, you can click the save the search button and enter a name for the search. Where you would find that search after you are finished, it is under the initial file drop down menu of the search tool. 

Here we have the Advanced Search Tab. The Advanced Search Tab has identical features to the standard search but it offers a start and stop date range for all areas. For example, if I were searching for a vaccination of Tdap, I would only want to know if it has had it in the last ten years, so I could have my start date and stop date include that range. 

This is an example of a user doing an advanced search of the report tab, which has many components. This I find very exciting too because you can select the individual reports that you wish to search. So this user chose allergies, chem & hematology, patient data summary, and pharmacy all outpatient to search. And after you are finished using this, if you want to change your mind you can click delete all or you can use these arrows to remove or add other sections of the reports tab that you want to search. You can also save the advanced search, although the save advance search button is found under the advanced search tab. So you can give it to the name and save your advanced search. 

So here we have a blowup of the advanced searches with some examples. And you can – when you go to the file and you open the saved searches, you can open it, you can delete it, delete all of them, and close it when you are finished looking at your saved searches. 

So here we have the two buttons floating over the Standard and Advanced Search tab. The Search Terms button up here is a fast way to enter search terms if they are the same for each area. And when you click on it, you get the instructions on how to use the button. In this example, the user is working under the Advanced tab and the clue there is the date range that is available. 

This user is working under the Standard Search tab with the Search Term button so you find an absence of a date range. And he only wants to search two sections for the same search. He wants to search orders, problems or search terms. If you wanted to search each section for a different term, you would have to use the Standard Search tab and not the shortcut button. This button Search Terms is more like a short cut.  

Now if that was not quick and easy enough for you, you have a Quick Search button. This – it opens the following window which also has instructions on how to use it. This is the fastest way to perform a search return. It searches all searchable sections, only from a particular start date. If you want to cancel a search in progress, you go to the bottom of the search tool and click on Cancel Search, and you can close your button when you are finished working with the tool itself. Now both of these applications close – if CPRS is closed, after the user receives a warning message stating that their search data will not be saved. 

So I would like to insert another polling question here at this moment, to see if members of the audience think they would be able to use CPRS in their clinical practice. 

**Joanne Stevens:**It looks like results are slowing down if you want to give us the results Rachel.

**Dr. Cornett:**It looks like 100% of the audience thinks they would find the search tool useful in their clinical practice. That makes me very happy. I personally will use this and would love to use it, so let us go on to see what the challenges and risks are. 

So the risks – one risk is accuracy. Of course we depend on how the information is entered into CPRS. And the user might not view all the search results. If they do not view all the results, they could draw an incorrect conclusion, so thorough and accurate documentation by all CPRS users is vital to its function and patient safety. Another challenge is, clinicians may not embrace the programs technology. Change is not always embraced by the general population, and training will be required for users to familiarize themselves with a tool and they should be educated how to use the technology and the benefits of the increase in the speed of searches. But they should also be aware to always look at more than one result, and compare for agreement if at all possible. 

Impacts, Veterans would have an improvement in wait times during clinic visits and receive a higher quality of care. VA Employees would spend less time searching CPRS manually, which may lead to an increase in productivity and an increase in job satisfactions. It will improve access. We will be able to care for more patients and increase patient access. And additional support needed is the tool needs to go from the – it has already been written, the programming is already available but it needs to go through class III and class II developments because it has to reach class one development before we will actually be able to use it in our work. 

And what do you really think, what do I really think, I believe that CPRS is the most complete computerized charting system in the world. And a search function is a basic function found in several other computer programs, and should be available to CPRS. And we will know we are successful when we can find medical information within seconds. So it is a simple, yet powerful tool with far reaching benefits for all users of CPRS. 

And the next step would be to test the tool at volunteer test sites. It is already available in the Sandbox and it is already – DSS has already added the Dynamic Link Library of the program for the tool to the Open Source Electronic Health Record Agent or OSEHRA website for downloading. So here is the address for OSEHRA, you can go there and download it today. But we have to go through local testing so it would get tested at one site, and then it would get tested at a vision level and then it could go to class I launch in which it would actually be added to CPRS as a new release. 

So I wanted to thank a lot of people today. I need to thank Heidi Schroeder, JoAnn Stevenson, Erica Owens and Erica Whittier of VIReC for allowing me to present my tool today to the VA community. I would like to thank Spencer Schaeffer and Donna Hoppe from Kansas City. Spencer helped me a great deal with the initial development of the innovation. Without his help it may not have gotten award in the first place. And I would like to thank Jim McCain, my first Innovation Coordinator. And I would like to thank the nice folks at the TAC for their help with the most foreign aspects of the process for me. Request for information and the budget and the contracting. That includes Jennifer Swick, Jelica Potter and Sarah Basilotto. They are up in Eatontown, New Jersey. And here at Gainesville I would like to thank Elaine Hill and Scott Anderson. They helped me with the testing and attending meetings with DSS to discuss the clinical aspects of the tool, how to use it, what would make it user friendly, how do we want it to look. And I would like to thank the VA Information Resource Center and Fabian Lopez and Kevin Wright and all the guys and gals at Document Storage Systems. And a huge thank you to Brian Stevenson who has helped me at every step of the way. 

Here is my contact information. If you would like to review a video of the tool, you could send me your contact information and Brian and I can help you with this. It is available on the Sandbox, you can get a Sandbox login or the Cloud, now it is called the Cloud. Or you can contact me with questions. And here are my references, like I said, most of my slides came from the user’s manual developed by DSS, and I have some web addresses for some other content in the slides and pictures. 

And here is the contact information for the Developer, DSS, their website, their phone number and e-mail. 

Now I guess I can open the floor up for questions.

**Joanne Stevens:**Thanks Rachel, this is JoAnn Stevens. Personally I have had the opportunity at work to use the CPRS Search Tool in Progress Notes. And yes, it was a little bit clunky so this sounds like a great improvement, but that is just my side comments. Anyway, I am going to go through the questions, and we have a question that asked for advanced state frames, I believe this is for the advanced search, can you use T for today and T-3650 for ten years as an example?

**Dr. Cornett:**No, you have to put it into the format of the month, day and year. It does not operate like Vista where you just have to type the letter T. It is more like CPRS where you actually have to put in the date. 

**Joanne Stevens:**Thank you, another comment and question from someone indicates that this tool sounds very useful. And I believe you addressed – the question is when can we expect to use this CPRS tool in our daily work.

**Dr. Cornett:**That – I wish I had a concrete answer for that. Brian is working very hard to get it pushed to the forefront in the development process. Like I said when the my old Innovation Coordinator Jim McCain changed jobs, it kind of fell through the cracks and I did not know what to do or who to contact. But Brian picked it up and they are trying to get it fast tracked into development, and I am hoping and praying that that would go through. Because to go through the class III, II, I stages can take quite some time. And you have to have the site to test it, they have to volunteer to test it. So there has to be a desire to bring something new into their system and there are potential risks involved when you add something, although we have tested it successfully in the Sandbox, but I would like to think within the next year or two. But that is me being hopeful, so I really do not have a concrete answer to that question.

**Joanne Stevens:**Okay, thank you. The next question is asking does the application do exact term search or is it more like Google of CPRS?

**Dr. Cornett:**It does an exact term search, although I believe, maybe Brian might know, I believe if you misspell it, I think it will come up with like this is close or did you mean. But it does not really pop up with a window that says did you mean this, like Google might do it. So it is best, at this point it is best if you spell it correctly and use the exact term. And that is another area where you depend on the people who wrote the notes in CPRS and thinks that they spelled it correctly. But I do think it has – you have wildcard capabilities.

**Joanne Stevens:**Thank you, the next person asks, can we download the tool from OSEHRA and use it on our own machine before it is released to the field?

**Dr. Cornett:**No, you would have to – there are people out in the world who use CRPS who are not part of the VA. So if you would say at this particular doctor’s office out in the community who use CPRS and they wanted to download the tool, they would be able to do it. But as a pharmacist or a nurse working within the VA system, you would not have the permission to download the tool into your own computer.

**Joanne Stevens:**Thank you, just as a side thing, Brian you seem to be answering some questions in the Q and A which is wonderful, not everyone can see those so, are you on the line?

Heidi:Brian’s phone died and I am thinking he is back on the call but he is not able to speak. Brian if you want to call back into the Operator, dial *0, they will be able to unmute you so you can talk on the line.

**Joanne Stevens:**Thanks Heidi, well in the interim I can read to you what Brian has written. What he indicates is that we are currently working with RAEM OIT to develop a business requirements document for III, II, I implementation. I imagine that is talking about the classes. And I will let him, hopefully get on the line in just a moment. Another person asked for you Rachel, can you do advanced searches such as and searches, or searches with the tool?

**Dr. Cornett:**Well you do not have and/or but you can search for multiple terms by just leaving a space in-between them, so it is really more like an and, and, and, and. 

**Joanne Stevens:**Okay, great. And Brian agreed with you, yes you can. So another person is asking, does the engine do indexing of the note for the search, and how is the result ranked?

**Dr. Cornett:**Let me see, I am not sure I understand what are the results of that, because it does index like you sound, this slide on the left, this is an index of all the sections where the term is found and it is – let me use that little arrow. You have the TIU notes, that would be progress notes and discharge summaries. Problem text, or the problem, consult and orders. So here we have an index of all the places that it is found, and this particular person clicked on the second under consult and it expanded over here. So it is indexed in that fashion. You cannot save the patient data search, you can only save what you were searching for and apply it to a different patient. I hope that answers their question.

**Joanne Stevens:**Okay, thank you, Brian responded and I believe this is in regards to someone asking if they could download the application from OSEHRA. He states that you could grab it from OSEHRA but it needs to be retooled. It was designed to work within VA systems. So I guess to a personal PC would not be possible. And Brian is trying to listen, he is still trying to get in, but here is another question. Does the progress note search include admission notes.

**Dr. Cornett:**Let me see, yes, because the admissions notes are found under progress notes I believe. That is where I see them. Now I am not sure if – but if they are also part of the reports tab, you could certainly search for them in there. I do not remember seeing a separate tab or link for admission notes. I think they are just lumped in with progress notes. So in that case yes, you can definitely search that. 

**Joanne Stevens:**I would imagine it would depend on the title if it was used as well.

**Dr. Cornett:**Right, let me see if I can find, like over here, this is just a standard search. This shows all the sections of the CPRS that we can search. So the TIU notes, that includes the progress notes and discharge summaries. And then the problem list, that would be the patient disease state or smoking or that sort of thing. Consult, that is kind of self-explanatory. I would look for fee consults frequently during the day to see if somebody has fee bases approval. And orders, the orders is very handy because you can search the order status. You might only want to look for an active order, or sometimes I want to see a discontinued order, and this is what you choose and which one you want and the report. That is the one that searches the report tab. It is not for running reports across patients but just searching the reports tab, which is  lot of information.

**Joanne Stevens:**Another person asked and maybe this is answering their question already, can one search the text of radiology reports?

**Dr. Cornett:**Yes. You would just go down to this section, reports, you would use the standard search if you did not need a specific date range. If you wanted to search a date range for a radiology report you would click on advance search and then go down and type in this reports box. And it would let you – let me go forward, back to advance search, because I think we had that pulled up. Here is the report and you can expand each of these and find your radiology reports, click on them and then they would pop up over on this side. So yes. 

**Joanne Stevens:**Great, thank you.

**Dr. Cornett:**You are welcome.

**Brian:**Can you hear me?

**Joanne Stevens:**Oh Brian, hello.

**Brian:**Hey, sorry about that little technical difficulty there. I am going to mute unless you have something for me. I did want to say one thing about OSEHRA though, back a few questions ago. You can sign up for a free account, and that can be pulled down, all the information is there. If you have some local IT folks that have a test account and they would like to try setting this up, one of the processes we are just starting to embark on is we are just been contacted, we put in a NSR request right after this innovation prototype was completed. And I just got a call last month from the rain folk know IT, and they are working with us not to put together a BRD to start trying to push us forward. What will require for success in that regard is volunteers from other sites out there that feel like they might want to be part of it, as we begin to roll out a pilot to – I do not want to say live production, because we do not go live, right, until something has been certified. But we are going to be looking forward to that. So if you are interested and you think you would like to take part in a future pilot in the next six months or so, shoot Rachel an e-mail and she will get in touch with me and we will keep you in mind as we move forward. 

**Joanne Stevens:**Great, thanks Brian. And I think you said, the antonym BRD, can you tell us what that is?

**Brian:**Yes ma’am, that stands for Business Required as Document. It is all the political bloodletting that goes along with new ideas. Quite extensive, the ONB 300 and just a mountain of paperwork, but necessary and something that every new idea must endure to see the light of day in a greater world.

**Joanne Stevens:**Right, so one other person comments Rachel, this is such a great idea and long overdue, thank you to you for making it come to reality. 

**Dr. Cornett:**Oh, thank you so much.

**Joanne Stevens:**Another person about searching has a question. Does the standard search have an unlimited date range?

**Dr. Cornett:**Well the instances can help you limit that because it will go in chronological order from the most recent to the oldest. So if you – let me go back one more. So here we have standard, so this part, the maximum results, that is what will limit your dates. And if he wanted to search way, way back like when CPRS first came out and we had first started using it, then you would make this number very high. But like I said, the higher you put this, or the further back you search, of course the longer it will take. And if you know that you are looking for something fairly recent, then you would make this number lower.

**Joanne Stevens:**Okay, thanks. One individual would like to know, is the tool available to providers where you are located Rachel, at the Gainesville VA?

**Dr. Cornett:**Unfortunately no, our site has not agreed to start the class I testing here. I am still working on that, I would love for that to happen.

**Joanne Stevens:**Right, I appreciate that. Okay, I have a question of my own. So earlier in your presentation, you talked about the development team identifying components that would benefit from a search tool by completing a survey of end users. Can you briefly describe the results of that survey?

**Dr. Cornett:**Our survey was mostly to – this was back in Kansas City and I wanted to ask pharmacists and nurses and different people in the hospital would they use it. And a lot of them replied that they would use it. For pharmacists we would look for times that a drug may have been tried because sometimes we would need a new antihypertensive and they want to know have they taken this drug before. That would be something a pharmacist could look for, and nursing, they could look for administration records and all kinds of data. And physicians would want to look for a big one that gets missed in CRP documentation is the problem list. Somebody has a condition and the user writes it in their note but they do not add it to the problem list. This is very important if a patient needs a drug such as Tramadol, you want to know have they ever had a seizure. Well if you rely only on the problems, if someone did not document it properly, you are not going to know that they have  seizure history. So a provider could use this as well, and it can help them make each patients chart more thorough. But we do send out an electronic survey through Outlook. I cannot remember if it was Survey Monkey or – it was one of those freebies. But then we just did – we used that to help develop what we wanted the tool to do.

**Joanne Stevens:**Thank you, very interesting. I do not see any other questions coming up in Q and A. I am sure people are still thinking about this, and thinking about how they could perhaps help you or get this implemented into their own institutions. So I think Heidi, at this time, it looks like we can put up the survey, the evaluation tool. 

**Moderator:**Okay, now when I put that up, I actually have to close the meeting to do that. So we are not going to be able to take any more questions. I will have to actually close things out.

**Joanne Stevens:**Okay, if that is the case then what we would suggest if you do have outstanding questions, you can either send them directly to Dr. Cornett, or feel free to send them to the VIReC help desk, VIReC@va.gov and we will be happy to forward those on. I would like to take the moment to thank Dr. Cornett for taking the time to develop and presenting this talk. As I said, please forward any remaining questions you may have. Our next session is scheduled for Tuesday, November 19. The title for that session is “The After Visit Summary” and our speaker will be Dr. John Burns. Thank you, we hope you can join us.

**Dr. Cornett:**Thank you for having me.

**Joanne Stevens:**You are welcome, thank you Brian for joining us.

**Brian:**Thank you all, one last thing before you hang up. If anybody wants more information about this or would like to access the tool and try it out in Sandbox, you can contact me at brian.stevenson@va.gov. I will set you up with a Sandbox account and you can start to play around with our tools and if you see something that you might like to champion and get off the facility. 

**Joanne Stevens:**Great, good information. 

**Moderator:**Fantastic, thank you everyone for joining us today, and we hope to see you at a future HSR and D cyberseminar. Thank you.

**Joanne Stevens:**Thanks Heidi. 

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