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SUPPORTING THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE TO

FREELY ELECT THEIR GOVERNMENT AND DETERMINE THEIR

FUTURE; AND EXPRESSING THE SENSE OF THE HOUSE OF

REPRESENTATIVES REGARDING THE SAFETY AND SECURITY

OF JEWISH COMMUNITIES IN EUROPE

MARKUP

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS 

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED FOURTEENTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

ON

H. Res. 348 and H. Res. 354

OCTOBER 9, 2015

Serial No. 114–109

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COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS 

EDWARD R. ROYCE, California, Chairman 

CHRISTOPHER H. SMITH, New Jersey 

ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN, Florida 

DANA ROHRABACHER, California 

STEVE CHABOT, Ohio 

JOE WILSON, South Carolina 

MICHAEL T. MCCAUL, Texas 

TED POE, Texas 

MATT SALMON, Arizona 

DARRELL E. ISSA, California 

TOM MARINO, Pennsylvania 

JEFF DUNCAN, South Carolina 

MO BROOKS, Alabama 

PAUL COOK, California 

RANDY K. WEBER SR., Texas 

SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania 

RON DESANTIS, Florida 

MARK MEADOWS, North Carolina 

TED S. YOHO, Florida 

CURT CLAWSON, Florida 

SCOTT DESJARLAIS, Tennessee 

REID J. RIBBLE, Wisconsin 

DAVID A. TROTT, Michigan 

LEE M. ZELDIN, New York 

DANIEL DONOVAN, New York 

ELIOT L. ENGEL, New York 

BRAD SHERMAN, California 

GREGORY W. MEEKS, New York 

ALBIO SIRES, New Jersey 

GERALD E. CONNOLLY, Virginia 

THEODORE E. DEUTCH, Florida 

BRIAN HIGGINS, New York 

KAREN BASS, California 

WILLIAM KEATING, Massachusetts 

DAVID CICILLINE, Rhode Island 

ALAN GRAYSON, Florida 

AMI BERA, California 

ALAN S. LOWENTHAL, California 

GRACE MENG, New York 

LOIS FRANKEL, Florida 

TULSI GABBARD, Hawaii 

JOAQUIN CASTRO, Texas 

ROBIN L. KELLY, Illinois 

BRENDAN F. BOYLE, Pennsylvania

AMY PORTER, Chief of Staff THOMAS SHEEHY, Staff Director

JASON STEINBAUM, Democratic Staff Director 

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H. Res. 348, Supporting the right of the people of Ukraine to freely elect 

their government and determine their future ................................................... 2

Amendment in the nature of a substitute to H. Res. 348 offered by the 

Honorable David Cicilline, a Representative in Congress from the State 

of Rhode Island ................................................................................................. 6

Amendment to the amendment in the nature of a substitute to H. 

Res. 348 offered by the Honorable David Cicilline ................................. 10

H. Res. 354, Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives regarding 

the safety and security of Jewish communities in Europe ............................... 11

Amendment in the nature of a substitute to H. Res. 354 offered by the 

Honorable Christopher H. Smith, a Representative in Congress from 

the State of New Jersey ................................................................................... 21

APPENDIX 

Markup notice .......................................................................................................... 38

Markup minutes ...................................................................................................... 39

Markup summary .................................................................................................... 41

The Honorable Eliot L. Engel, a Representative in Congress from the State 

of New York: Prepared statement ...................................................................... 42

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SUPPORTING THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE TO 

FREELY ELECT THEIR GOVERNMENT AND DETERMINE 

THEIR FUTURE; AND EXPRESSING THE SENSE OF THE 

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES REGARDING THE SAFETY 

AND SECURITY OF JEWISH COMMUNITIES IN EUROPE 

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 9, 2015

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS,

Washington, DC. 

The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 11:24 a.m. in room 

2172, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Ed Royce (chairman of 

the committee) presiding. 

Chairman ROYCE. The committee will come to order. 

Pursuant to notice, we meet today to mark up two bipartisan resolutions. Without objection, all members may have 5 days to submit statements for the record and any extraneous materials on today’s business that you want to include there. 

As you were all notified yesterday, we intend to consider today’s 

measures en bloc. And so without objection, the following items 

previously provided to members will be considered en bloc, and are 

considered as read: House Resolution 348, supporting the right of 

the people of Ukraine to freely elect their government and determine their future. And with it, Cicilline amendment 200 in the nature of a substitute to House Resolution 348, and Cicilline second 

degree amendment 58 to the ANS. 

Then we have House Resolution 354, expressing the sense of the 

House regarding the safety and security of Jewish communities in 

Europe, and Smith amendment 201 in the nature of a substitute 

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Chairman ROYCE. And after recognizing myself and the ranking 

member, I will be pleased to recognize any member seeking recognition to speak on either of these measures. 

So first, I want to thank Representative Cicilline for introducing 

this resolution and for his commitment to the people of Ukraine. 

In 2014, Mr. Cicilline, along with Ranking Member Engel and committee members Poe and Lowenthal and Frankel and me, traveled 

to Ukraine. We traveled to as far east as we could fly, to 

Dnipropetrovsk, which is the Russian-speaking part of Ukraine, 

and we heard the stories from the perspectives of the local Russian-speaking Ukranians about this conflict. 

And what they told us was that Russia was trying to recruit 

every skinhead and malcontent and bring them there. But they 

said the accent is different. So those with a Muscovite accent, we 

are arresting them, we are holding them in the brig until the cessation of hostilities. 

But they said what we are really concerned about is not these 

Russian interlopers, what we are worried about are the Russian 

forces, when they take the patches off, and Russian Army. So what 

we need are anti-tank weapons, what we need is the ability to buy 

equipment that if they attack Dnipropetrovsk, which is on the border of Luhansk, if they attack us in the Donetsk region, then we 

will be able to defend. 

And today, Russian aggression against Ukraine remains a daily 

reality along that border region. The ongoing conflict has taken the 

lives of 8,000 Ukranians. Moscow continues to provide weapons 

and support to the separatists who control large areas of eastern 

Ukraine. They feel they can deal with the separatists, but they feel 

that their problem is the regular Russian Army that is in that theater. 

The so-called Minsk agreement lays out a series of steps to bring 

peace to the region, including holding local elections in Ukraine. 

The Ukrainian Government has scheduled those elections for October 25. But they will not be held in those areas of eastern Ukraine 

that are controlled by Russian-led separatists because free and fair 

elections are not possible in Luhansk and Donetsk. 

However, the elections will go forward in the rest of the country 

with independent observers to ensure they meet international 

standards, and this resolution strongly supports the right of the 

people of Ukraine to freely elect their government, urges the administration to expedite assistance for reforms to promote free and 

fair elections, and condemns efforts by outside forces, especially the 

Russian Government, from interfering in those elections. 

And lastly, we turn to House Resolution 354, regarding the safety and security of Jewish communities in Europe. Anti-Semitism in 

Europe has been on the rise. The horrific loss of life that occurred 

in the Paris and Copenhagen attacks highlights the urgent need for 

European governments to better protect their Jewish communities. 

This timely resolution urges those governments in Europe to consider several commonsense steps aimed at improving the safety of 

Jewish citizens there, such as establishing partnerships between 

law enforcement and Jewish community groups in order to improve 

security plans, and including training and the law enforcement response to anti-Semitic violence. 

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The measure also encourages European nations to improve communications among themselves, as well as with the U.S., and to 

analyze trends in anti-Semitic crimes, and to share best practices 

in combating extremism. 

And I thank Congressman Chris Smith of New Jersey for authoring this important measure and for his long-time commitment to 

promoting religious freedom around the world. 

I now recognize the ranking member for his remarks. 

Mr. ENGEL. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for 

calling this markup. Let me say that I agree with every word you 

said. I want to put my thoughts with yours. I know we are short 

on time, so I will enter my full statement into the record and issue 

it to the press. 

But I fully support these measures, and am particularly happy 

that our committee once again is advancing good bipartisan legislation, as we have done so often. So I ask unanimous consent that 

my statement be part of the record. I wish everyone a happy holiday weekend, and I yield back. 

Chairman ROYCE. Thank you, Mr. Engel. We go now to Mr. 

Smith of New Jersey. 

Mr. SMITH. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. And I thank 

you for bringing H. Res. 354 before the committee for markup and 

for your leadership on human rights issues in general and on combating anti-Semitism in particular. 

Mr. Chairman, violent anti-Semitic attacks between 2013 and 

2014 doubled, and in some European countries actually quadrupled. H. Res. 354 focuses on essential actions needed to prevent, 

mitigate, and respond to deadly anti-Semitic attacks like those in 

Paris, Copenhagen, and Brussels. 

Specifically, it urges the U.S. Government to encourage our European allies to ensure they formally recognize, partner with, and exchange information with Jewish community security groups in 

their countries. There are excellent examples of this in the United 

States, the United Kingdom, and in France. So these best practices 

need to be replicated. 

The resolution highlights the importance of European governments supporting several key assessments and adjusting their 

strategies and efforts to combat anti-Semitism accordingly. It emphasizes the importance of European governments developing public awareness and suspicious activity campaigns like ‘‘if you see 

something, say something’’ initiatives, helping Jewish communities 

developing baseline safety standards, and integrating efforts to 

combat violent extremism and ones to combat anti-Semitism as appropriate. 

H. Res. 354 stresses relevant training for law enforcement, implementing declarations, decisions, and commitments related to 

anti-Semitism in the Organization for Security and Cooperation in 

Europe, the OSCE, and ensuring European governments have 

mandated and resourced senior officials to lead their anti-Semitism 

efforts. 

Finally, the resolution affirms support for the mandate of the 

U.S. Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism, a position that I actually authored the amendment to create some years 

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ago, and urges the Secretary of State to continue strong U.S. reporting on anti-Semitism. 

H. Res. 354 is a blueprint for actions that are critical for the 

safety and security of Jewish communities in Europe and for our 

government’s engagement with our European allies to combat antiSemitism. The specific actions recommended here are based on consultations with leading security experts who work closely with European Jewish communities. 

This resolution has broad bipartisan support. It is cosponsored by 

84 Members of Congress, including 23 members of this committee. 

All of my fellow co-chairs of the bipartisan Task Force on Combating anti-Semitism are original cosponsors, including Ranking 

Member Eliot Engel, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Ted Deutch, who are 

members of this committee, and Nita Lowey, Kay Granger, Peter 

Roskam, and Steve Israel. It also has the strong support from 

many of the Jewish organizations. 

I yield back, and again, I thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

Chairman ROYCE. Thank you, Mr. Smith. Mr. Cicilline of Rhode 

Island. 

Mr. CICILLINE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to thank you, 

Chairman Royce and Ranking Member Engel, for your strong support and cosponsorship of House Resolution 348, and thank you for 

scheduling a markup on both of these bills today. 

House Res. 348 signals strong congressional support for free elections in Ukraine. I thank my many colleagues on the committee 

who have signed on as cosponsors as well. The democratic and economic development of Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression remains one of the most vital efforts the United States could undertake to combat Russian intransigence and show our unwavering 

commitment to promoting democracy and human rights around the 

world. 

The illegal and forceful occupation of Crimea and the ongoing 

Russian support for separatists in eastern Ukraine are an affront 

to international law and diplomacy. The Minsk II agreement was 

an historic step toward potentially ending the violence and unrest 

in the country. And it is now upon the governments of Ukraine, 

Russia, the United States, and our European allies as implementing partners to ensure its successful execution. 

A vital part of that implementation will be to hold free and fair 

elections throughout Ukraine, including under the terms of the 

agreement eventually in the Donbas region controlled by Russianled separatists. Ukraine has local elections scheduled for most of 

the country except some separatist-controlled areas for October 25. 

This resolution demonstrates this Congress’s unwavering commitment to supporting the right of the people of Ukraine to freely 

elect their government and determine their future. It condemns 

any Russian attempts to interfere in Ukraine’s elections in any 

way, including through intimidation, violence, or coercion. 

During Ukraine’s last elections, these tactics were used to prevent Ukranians from voting in certain regions. This cannot happen 

again. And any actions undermining these elections must be met 

with swift and certain international condemnation. At this delicate 

juncture in Ukraine’s history, it is essential that the United States 

and our European allies continue to demonstrate steadfast support 

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for Ukranian territorial integrity, sovereignty, and the right of the 

Ukranian people to participate in a free and fair electoral process. 

Again, I thank my colleagues for their support and urge them to 

support this resolution. And with that, I yield back. 

Chairman ROYCE. Thank you. Mr. Chabot of Ohio. 

Mr. CHABOT. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to commend you 

for bringing this legislation before the committee today. Russian 

aggression continues to violate Ukraine’s political and economic 

sovereignty. And unfortunately, it has gone largely unrebuked 

around the world. If stability and peace is ever to be reestablished 

in Ukraine, it is vital that the people of Ukraine have the freedom 

to choose their own representatives, as well as take the necessary 

steps to ensure that their own future, without the coercion and vicious tactics orchestrated by Putin, is possible. 

As the shining example of freedom and democracy, America has 

a duty to support the Ukranians seeking constitutional reform and 

free and fair elections. This measure recognizes those realities and 

reasserts our support for the Ukranian people to freely elect their 

own government. It is a timely measure. I urge its adoption, and 

I yield back. 

Chairman ROYCE. We go to Mr. Gerry Connolly of Virginia. 

Mr. CONNOLLY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I want to thank 

you and the ranking member for adding H. Res. 348 to this markup. And I want to thank the authors of the resolution. This committee has spoken loudly about not only Ukraine, but about Crimea 

as an integral part of the Ukraine, and that we are not conceding. 

And I am glad to say that the nonrecognition act on the Ukraine 

has in fact been incorporated into the defense authorization bill. 

It is vital that we speak firmly and we back it up with sanctions 

and other measures so that Vladimir Putin never gets the wrong 

impression about our acquiescence in a violent military action that 

subverted the sovereignty of another country. We will not accept 

that. Ever. And I think it is really important this committee continues to speak with one voice and as firmly as possible on a bipartisan basis. And indeed we have. 

So I thank Mr. Cicilline in particular for his leadership on this 

resolution, and look forward to voting for it. And thank you, Mr. 

Chairman, and you, Mr. Engel, the ranking member, for your leadership as well. 

Chairman ROYCE. And we go now to Mr. Dana Rohrabacher of 

California. 

Mr. ROHRABACHER. Well, I hate to be the skunk at the lawn 

party here, but let me just note that I do support the basic goal 

of this legislation, which is to reaffirm that we believe as Americans that the democratic process should be followed in Ukraine, 

and that we are upset, and we know the great challenge there that 

they have. 

And certainly the first two whereases, ‘‘strongly support the right 

of the people of Ukraine to freely elect their government and determine their future.’’ Yes. Of course. ‘‘Urges the administration to expedite assistance to Ukraine to facilitate the political, economic, 

and social reforms necessary for free and fair elections that meet 

international standards.’’ Yes. And there is no doubt about that. 

We want to end the conflict and upheaval that is going on that is 

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so detrimental to all of the people of Ukraine and destabilizing to 

Europe. And so this puts us on record. 

Unfortunately, we can’t seem to go on record doing that without 

again giving Russia a kick in the pants, and basically ignoring 

what started the destabilization of Ukraine in the first place. Basically, we blame it, yes, Yanukovych was president, whereas he fled 

the country. It doesn’t say—it doesn’t start there. It doesn’t start 

with Yanukovych fleeing the country. 

This whole episode that has destabilized Ukraine started when 

violence, instigated by internal Ukranian opposition, as well—and 

they were in coordination and consultation with other foreign powers, meaning our European friends—created violence, a violent situation that led to the destabilization of an elected government. 

We can close our eyes all we want, we can pretend this is all 

Russia. Yanukovych was an elected government. There was huge 

violence that was caused when he made a major policy decision. Instead of letting the election take care of it, they had massive, not 

just demonstrations, but we are talking about massive violence. 

And I know that there has been an effort to try to make, oh, no, 

that was just Yanukovych attacking the demonstrators. That was 

not what happened. We now have every evidence, I met with a 

group of Ukranians just a couple nights ago, clearly, what we have 

was violence against an elected government. And Mr. Smith was 

there to see that Yanukovych was elected in a fair election. And instead of waiting for the next election, our European friends had to 

collude with forces inside of Ukraine to create a destabilization of 

an elected government. 

Now, the bottom line is that has not even been touched on here. 

Everything is Russia’s fault. Well, yes, when Yanukovych fled and 

the elected government was overthrown, the fact is the Russians 

did act, and I opposed that. I think when the Russians sent troops 

in that was wrong. We have every reason to condemn that. The 

Russians should not have sent troops in. 

And yes, we need to call upon—what we have here is to make 

sure that we are on the side of free elections, and that we want 

to help the Ukranians. But then we condemn the part of outside 

forces, specifically the Government of Russia, ignoring the fact that 

other governments have been involved in overthrowing an elected 

government. 

Either we should leave that out or we should just say ‘‘attempts 

by outside forces’’ and leave out this little jab at Russia. We are 

not going to make anything better by continuing to jab Russia rather than looking at ways we can cooperate to end the conflict in 

Ukraine. 

Again, let’s reach out—that is what happened in the Minsk 

agreement, which the chairman already mentioned. The Minsk 

agreement sets out a plan. And Russians agreed to it. Let’s work 

with them to see how we implement the plan rather than kicking 

them in the pants. 

Well, I am going to be opposing this, but I do think the actual 

goal of this, which is to try to say we are behind free elections and 

want Ukraine to come out of it, that certainly is a worthy goal. 

This, you know, doesn’t—it is not going to achieve that. It is 

going to actually achieve the opposite, because in Russia it will be 

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looked at as a slap in the face. Why should we ever cooperate with 

these bums who are blaming it all on us and forgetting the fact 

that an elected government in Ukraine was overthrown? 

So with that said, I stand in opposition, and I stand in favor of 

the spirit of what you are trying to accomplish, but this will not 

achieve your goal and go in the opposite direction. 

Chairman ROYCE. Thank you, Mr. Rohrabacher. We go now to 

Lois Frankel of Florida. 

Ms. FRANKEL. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a little change of 

pace here. So Mr. Chairman, thank you. I am a cosponsor, a proud 

cosponsor of both resolutions. I thank the authors. 

And first, I want to just say in terms of House Resolution 348, 

that I found our trip to Ukraine was very enlightening, and really 

highlighted the necessity for the free and fair elections in order for 

Ukraine to regain its civility. 

As to House Resolution 354, and Mr. Smith, I do thank you again 

for that, and I do want to make a few remarks. Because I want to 

add my concern for the safety and security of Jewish communities 

in Europe. The rise of anti-Semitic incidents throughout Europe in 

recent years is deeply troubling. In the past 2 years, terrorists have 

murdered Jews in the capital cities of Belgium, Denmark, and 

France. Jews and Jewish institutions, synagogues, and schools 

across Europe have suffered numerous violent attacks. 

As a result of this threatening environment, according to polls 

done by the ADL and other reputable organizations, more than 40 

percent of Jews in Belgium, France, and Hungary are considering 

emigration. Journalists, scholars, and politicians are debating 

whether there can be a future for the Jewish community in Europe, 

where Jews are afraid to attend events in holy sites, and where 

again, according to ADL, 20 percent of European Jews have experienced at least one incident of anti-Semitic physical attack or harassment. 

Fortunately, educated observers believe that today’s events in 

Europe are not analogous to the 1930s Germany. Then, the hatred, 

the persecution and extermination of Jews was state-sponsored. In 

contrast, today’s leaders across Europe are working to stem the 

tide of anti-Semitism, and key European leaders have spoken out 

against anti-Semitism and have taken concrete actions to fight it. 

With that said, however, I agree with those who believe that this 

is a defining moment for Europe. Our European partners’ and allies’ ability to confront anti-Semitism will ultimately impact the 

very essence of the character of their nations. And as the French 

prime minister stated, if Jews flee in large numbers, the soul of the 

French Republic is at risk. France will no longer be France. 

And that is one of the reasons, of course, why House Resolution 

354 is so important. We must support European governments, law 

enforcement agencies, and other entities to bolster Jewish security 

and preparedness, tighten communications with Jewish communities, and combat violent extremism broadly with 

counterradicalization and education. 

And ultimately, helping Europe stem the rising tide of anti-Semitism means helping European nations to fulfill the principles of democracy, human dignity, openness, and pluralism, and the noble 

principals upon which these nations were founded. I yield back. 

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Chairman ROYCE. Thank you. We go now to Congressman Poe. 

Mr. POE. I thank the chairman. I appreciate the words of my 

friend from California, Mr. Rohrabacher, but I see this completely 

different. The Russian bear invaded Georgia, gobbled up one-third 

of the territory, and it is still in Georgia. Still hungry for more 

land, it went into Crimea, took it, claimed it as its own, and then 

still on the move, the bear went into eastern Ukraine, where it is 

now. And we all know that Russia now is in Syria, based on some 

faulty excuse. 

Ukranians have the right to self-determination. This resolution 

says the Ukranians will decide what their government is going to 

be, not the Russians. Contrary to what Putin said, the Napoleon 

of Siberia, Ukraine should decide about Ukraine, not him. 

So I think it is a good thing that the United States, a country 

that believes in self-determination and democracy, support the 

Ukraine and the Ukranians in their quest for really not just elections, but to be rid of the invaders from Russia. I think we ought 

to do more for Ukraine than the United States has done. Besides 

sending them meals ready to eat, we ought to help them defend 

their own sovereignty against Russia, which is another issue. 

This resolution is a good idea. America stands for democracy and 

self-determination even for Ukranians. So I totally support it, I am 

glad I am a cosponsor, and I appreciate the chair and ranking 

member bringing this up before the committee for a vote. I yield 

back. 

Chairman ROYCE. Thank you, Judge. We go now to Mr. Brad 

Sherman of California. 

Mr. SHERMAN. I want to comment about both bills. I disagree 

with a portion of what Dana Rohrabacher had to say for reasons 

everybody else has already expressed. I agree with a portion of 

what he said. He is right on the history, and that is a democratic 

elected government reneged on a giant promise, and instead of distributing campaign leaflets there was a regime-threatening presence of large numbers of people. Woe be to our state and Federal 

Governments if 1 million people will demand extraconstitutional 

governmental changes each time politicians renege on a promise. It 

has happened here, I am told. 

There is one part of the resolution that I think we can all agree 

on, and it may mean more if read in an American context. We say 

we strongly support the right of the people of Ukraine to freely 

elect their government. I turn to the gentleman from Texas, Mr. 

Poe, and would say, as a Texan, would you think that Texans were 

free to elect their government if your governor was appointed by 

President Barack Obama rather than elected by the residents of 

Texas? Would that be unpopular with the people in your district? 

Mr. POE. It would be unpopular. It would be against the law in 

our State. So we would follow what our law is. We need to let the 

Ukranians make up their mind what their law is. 

Mr. SHERMAN. I would say that. And at the same time, we have 

a Federal system here in which people are free to elect their own 

governor. And that has served us well, and perhaps would serve as 

a model for the Ukraine. And certainly when Americans say in a 

resolution ‘‘free to elect their own government,’’ most ordinary 

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Americans would think that that would include electing your own 

governor. 

Mr. ROHRABACHER. Would the gentleman yield for a question? 

Mr. SHERMAN. I will yield for a question. 

Mr. ROHRABACHER. So I understand they are going to have their 

election and they have not agreed to permit their governors to be 

elected. The local government will now be appointed? 

Mr. SHERMAN. I am not sure that that has been determined. But 

there are certainly some in Kiev who think that the local governor 

should be appointed. And I have urged our Ukranian friends, especially in a country with such regional differences, just as our country has regional differences. But you are going to have to turn to 

other experts. 

Mr. ROHRABACHER. That should be in this bill. Mr. Chairman, 

that should be in this bill. 

Mr. SHERMAN. I will reclaim my time because I want to talk 

about the anti-Semitism resolution. We would have more credibility 

talking to the world about anti-Semitism if it wasn’t so prevalent 

on at least a few American campuses. On some of our campuses, 

federally funded in large part, you are told that you are not qualified to serve in student government unless you agree that Israel 

should be abolished and the Middle East should be ethnically 

cleansed of Jews. 

Now, we do have a civil rights law, and Title VI requires that 

those on campus not face anti-Semitism. But for anti-Semitism to 

be fought, you need a definition of anti-Semitism. The State Department has a definition of anti-Semitism. When we criticize other 

countries for allowing anti-Semitic behavior or engaging in anti-Semitic behavior, that is the definition we use. 

And I would hope that members of this committee would join me 

in writing to the U.S. Department of Education and saying it certainly undercuts our foreign policy when we tell other countries 

this is the definition of anti-Semitism, you should not allow—or you 

should protect Jews from this anti-Semitic behavior, if we can’t get 

the U.S. Department of Education to agree with the same definition. 

For us to have any credibility in the world on this issue, the U.S. 

Department of Education needs to enforce the law. And the first 

step in enforcing the law is defining the law. So I hope to have a 

few cosigners for a letter. And I yield back. 

Chairman ROYCE. Do any other members seek recognition? Hearing no further requests for recognition, the question occurs—oh, 

Mr. Trott. 

Mr. TROTT. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Ranking Member 

Engel, for bringing these two resolutions forward. 

I support H. Res. 348. The Cold War is back. The President is 

largely insouciant toward Russian aggression. Someone has to 

stand for freedom. And I hope that Russia is irritated by this resolution, but I suspect they will be just largely amused. 

I also support H. Res. 354. Anti-Semitism is rampant. Mr. Sherman, I will be happy to sign that letter. It is a problem on our college campuses. And I think calling attention to the problem of Jewish safety and security is necessary. And I just want to go on the 

record as also strongly supporting H. Res. 354. I yield back. 

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Chairman ROYCE. Any other member seeking recognition? 

Hearing no further requests, the question occurs on the items 

considered en bloc. 

All those in favor, say aye. 

All opposed, no. 

In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it, and the measures 

considered en bloc are agreed to. And without objection, House Resolution 348 and House Resolution 354 are ordered favorably reported, as amended. And the staff is directed to make any technical 

and conforming changes. 

Also, without objection, the Chair is authorized to seek House 

consideration of those measures under suspension of the rules. 

And that concludes our business for today. I thank Ranking 

Member Engel and all of our committee members for their contributions and assistance to today’s markup. The committee is adjourned. 

[Whereupon, at 11:55 a.m., the committee was adjourned.] 

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