Final List of Private Meetings and Attendees

Proposed Rule for Gainful Employment

December 15, 2010

U.S. Department of Education

“Over the past several weeks, the U.S. Department of Education met with over 50 unique entities to discuss their comments received in response to 

the notice of proposed rulemaking for gainful employment published on July 29, 2010. Below you will find the complete list of individuals who 

participated on behalf of for-profit institutions, community colleges, higher education organizations, student organizations, and other interested 

parties.

As a whole, the discussions resulting from these meetings helped to ensure that the Department underwent a thorough and thoughtful review process 

that will ultimately result in a rule that best serves the interests of students and taxpayers alike. The Department appreciates the constructive 

viewpoints shared throughout the course of these discussions and is on track to publish a final rule in early 2011.”

The following Department Officials and Staff participated in private meetings on the subject of gainful employment:

Office of the Secretary (ED-SEC)

 Arne Duncan, Secretary of Education

Office of the Deputy Secretary (ED-ODS)

 Tony Miller, Deputy Secretary 

Office of the Under Secretary (ED-OUS)

 James Kvaal, Deputy Under Secretary

 Leigh Arsenault, Confidential Assistant

Office of the General Counsel (ED-OGC)

 Charlie Rose, General Counsel

 Georgia Yuan, Deputy General Counsel

 Steve Finley, Program Attorney

 Harold Jenkins, Assistant General Counsel
Office of Postsecondary Education (ED-OPE)

 Eduardo Ochoa, Assistant Secretary

 David Bergeron, Acting Deputy Assistant Secretary 

 Dan Madzelan, Senior Director for Strategic Planning, Analysis, and Initiatives Service

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 14th, 2010

InfiLaw

Rick Inatome InfiLaw Chief Executive Officer

Doug Chait InfiLaw Senior Vice President, Corporate Development

Chidi Ogene InfiLaw General Counsel

Dennis Cariello DLA Piper Counsel

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Steve Finley ED- OGC

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 14th, 2010

Center for Education and the Workforce

Anthony Carnevale CEW Director

Michelle Melton CEW

James Kvaal ED- OUS

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Steve Finley ED- OGC

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 15th, 2010

American Association of Cosmetology Schools

Tom Netting Akerman Senterfitt Public Affairs Advisor

Anthony Fragomeni AACS Director

Christine Gordon Graham Webb Academy President

Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Dan Madzelan ED-OPE

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 18th, 2010

Monroe College

Karenann Carty Monroe Academic Dean

Marc Jerome Monroe Executive Vice President

Roberta Greenberg Monroe Vice President

Stephen Jerome Monroe President

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 19th, 2010

Mark Kantrowitz

Mark Kantrowitz Publisher

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 21st, 2010

Kaplan Inc.

Andrew Rosen Kaplan CEO

Matt Seelye Kaplan Chief Financial Officer

Rebecca Campoverde Kaplan Senior VP for Government Relations 

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Steve Finley ED- OGC

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 21st, 2010

DeVry Inc.

Elizabeth Truelove McDermott DeVry Senior Director, Internal Audit

Michelle Stipp DeVry Manager, Policy and Training, Regulatory Affairs

Thomas Babel DeVry Vice President

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Steve Finley ED- OGC

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 21st, 2010

The Institute for College Access and Success, Campus Progress, United States Student Association, and US Public Interest Research Group

Pauline Abernathy TICAS President

Debbie Cochrane TICAS Program Director
Angela Peoples Campus Progress Policy and Advocacy Manager

Getachew Kassa USSA Legislative Director

Rich Williams US PIRG Higher Education Advocate

Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Steve Finley ED- OGC

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 22nd, 2010

Strayer University

Dr. Sandra Stallard Strayer University President

Catherine Guttman-McCabe Strayer University Senior Vice President and General Counsel

Kelly Bozarth Strayer Education Inc. Senior Vice President and Chief Business Officer

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 22nd, 2010

National Consumer Law Center

Deanne Loonin NCLC Attorney

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 22nd, 2010

Walden University and Laureate Education Inc.
Jonathan Kaplan Walden University President

Paula Singer Laureate Higher Education Group CEO

Jennifer Blum Drinker, Biddle & Reath Partner

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 25th, 2010

Bridgepoint Education

Sheryl Wright Bridgepoint Vice President of Government Affairs

Nancy Broff Dickstein Shapiro LLP Counsel

Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Harold Jenkins ED- OGC

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 25th, 2010

Lincoln Educational Services

Scott Shaw Lincoln Executive Vice President and Chief Administrative Officer

Shaun McAlmont Lincoln President and CEO

Fran Giglio Lincoln Vice Prsident of Compliance and Regulatory Services

Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Steve Finley ED- OGC

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 25th, 2010

Association of Private Colleges and Universities

Harris Miller APSCU President and CEO

Jonathan Guryan Northwestern University Associate Professor of Human Development and Social Policy and Economics

Tammy Halligan APSCU Director of Regulatory Affairs

Brian Moran APSCU Executive Vice President for Government Relations and General Counsel

Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 25th, 2010

Career Education Corporation

Diane Jones CEC Vice President for External and Regulatory Affairs

Gary McCullough CEC President

Leslie Thornton Dickstein Shapiro LLP Director

Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 26th, 2010

Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities

Harris Miller APSCU President and CEO

Brian Moran APSCU Executive Vice President for Government Relations and General Counsel

Dr. Jonathan Guryan Northwestern University Associate Professor of Human Development and Social Policy and Economics

Lauren Maddox Podesta Group Principal
Jay Urwitz Wilmer & Hale Partner

Bill Clohan APSCU Special Advisor to Harris Miller

Arne Duncan ED- SEC

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Tony Miller ED- ODS

Charlie Rose ED- OGC

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 26th, 2010

Eastern Iowa Community College

Patricia Keir Eastern Iowa CC Chancellor

Jane Haugland Eastern Iowa CC District Financial Aid Officer

Karen Bickers Eastern Iowa CC President and Vice Chancellor

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 26th, 2010

Grand Canyon University 

Brent Richardson Grand Canyon CEO

Dennis Cariello DLA Piper Counsel

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 26th, 2010

American Council on Education, Association of Community College Trustees, American Association of Community Colleges

Terry Hartle ACE Senior Vice President, Division of Government & Public Affairs

David Baime AACC Senior Vice President, Government Relations, & Research
JeeHang Lee ACCT Director of Public Policy

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 28th, 2010

ITT Technical Institute

Kevin Modany ITT CEO

Clark Elwood ITT Executive Vice President and Chief Administrative Officer

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Steve Finley ED- OGC

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 28th, 2010

Northwestern Career College

Lawrence Schumacher Northwestern President

Laura Pollastrini Northwestern 

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Steve Finley ED- OGC

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 28th, 2010

Education Management Corporation

Anthony Guida EDMC Senior Vice-President of Regulatory Affairs and Strategic Development

Richard Them EDMC Vice President

Edward West EDMC CFO

Jack McKernan EDMC Chairman and Former Governor of Maine 

James Kvaal ED- OUS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 28th, 2010

Rocky Vista University

Dr. Bruce Dubin Rocky Vista Dean and Chief Academic Officer

Dr. Robert Roehrich Rocky Vista President

J. Andrew Usera Rocky Vista Vice President and General Counsel

Kathy Leary Rocky Vista Director of Financial Aid

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Steve Finley ED- OGC

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 29th, 2010

Corinthian Colleges

Peter Waller Corinthian CEO

Jack Massimino Corinthian Executive Chairman of the Board

Mark Pelesh Corinthian Executive Vice President, Legislative & Regulatory Affairs

Arne Duncan ED- SEC

Tony Miller ED- ODS

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 29th, 2010

Education Management Corporation

Jack R. McKernan EDMC Chairman 

Todd Nelson EDMC CEO
Edward West EDMC CFO

Anthony Guida EDMC Senior Vice-President of Regulatory Affairs and Strategic Development

Arne Duncan ED- SEC

Tony Miller ED- ODS

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 29th, 2010

DeVry Inc.

Daniel Hamburger DeVry CEO

Sharon Parrott DeVry Senior Vice President and Chief Compliance Officer of Regulatory Affairs

Arne Duncan ED- SEC

Tony Miller ED- ODS

Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 29th, 2010

University of Phoenix/Apollo Group

Joseph D'Amico Apollo Group/UOP President and COO

Charles Edelstein Apollo Group/UOP Co-CEO, Chairman

Gergory Cappelli Apollo Group Director, Chairman

Dr. William Pepicello UOP President 

Matthew Ankrum Apollo Head of Global Strategy

Michael Goldstein DowLohnes Attorney at Law

Arne Duncan ED- SEC

Tony Miller ED- ODS

Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 29th, 2010

Capella University

Christine Johnson Capella University Director of Government Affairs

Kevin Gilligan Capella Education Company Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Jennifer Blum Drinker, Biddle & Reath Partner

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Steve Finley ED- OGC

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

October 29th, 2010

Corinthian Colleges

Peter Waller Corinthian CEO

Mark Pelesh Corinthian Executive Vice President, Legislative & Regulatory Affairs

James Kvaal ED- OUS

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Leigh Arsenault Ed- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

November 1st, 2010

U.S. Small Business Administration

Kate Reicher SBA

Charles Maresca SBA

Kia Dennis SBA

Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE

Steve Finley ED- OGC

Dan Madzelan ED- OPE

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

November 9th, 2010

Capella University

Kevin Gilligan Capella Education Company Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Christine Johnson Capella University Director of Government Affairs

Jennifer Blum Drinker, Biddle & Reath Partner

Larry Isaak Capella University President

Arne Duncan ED- SEC

Tony Miller ED- ODS

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Charlie Rose ED- OGC

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

November 9th, 2010

Strayer University

Robert Silberman Strayer Education Inc. Chairman and CEO

Catherine Guttman-McCabe Strayer University Senior Vice President and General Counsel

Arne Duncan ED- SEC

Tony Miller ED- ODS

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Charlie Rose ED- OGC

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

November 10th, 2010

The Institute for College Access and Success, Campus Progress, U.S. Students Association, National Consumer Law Center, 

US Public Interest Research Group

Lauren Asher TICAS President

Pauline Abernathy TICAS Vice President

Chris Lindstrom US PIRG Higher Education Program Director

Rich Williams US PIRG Higher Education Advocate
Getachew Kassa USSA Legislative Director

Lindsay McCluskey USSA President

Angela Peoples Campus Progress Policy and Advocacy Manager

David Halperin Campus Progress Senior Vice President

Deanne Loonin NCLC Attorney

Arne Duncan ED- SEC

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Tony Miller ED- ODS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

November 10th, 2010

American Council on Education, Association of Community College Trustees, American Association of Community Colleges

David Baime AACC Senior Vice President, Government Relations, & Research

Dr. George Boggs AACC President and CEO

Dr. Walter Bumphus AACC President and CEO-designee

Jee Hang Lee ACCT Director of Public Policy

J. Noah Brown ACCT CEO

Terry Hartle ACE Senior Vice President, Division of Government & Public Affairs

Arne Duncan ED- SEC

Tony Miller ED- ODS

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

November 10th, 2010

Rasmussen College

J. Michael Locke Rasmussen CEO

Arne Duncan ED- SEC

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Tony Miller ED- ODS

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

November 11th, 2010

Kaplan Inc.

Don Graham The Washington Post Company Chairman and CEO

Andrew Rosen Kaplan Chairman and CEO

Matt Seelye Kaplan Chief Financial Officer

Rebecca Campoverde Kaplan Senior VP for Government Relations 

Arne Duncan ED- SEC

Tony Miller ED- ODS

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

November 22nd, 2010

BC Partners

James Rubin BC Partners

Raymond Svider BC Partners

Arne Duncan ED- SEC

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Tony Miller ED- ODS

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

November 23rd, 2010

Walden University and Laureate Education Inc.

Doug Becker Laureate Education Inc. Chairman and CEO

Paula Singer Laureate Higher Education Group CEO

Jonathan Kaplan Walden University President

Jennifer Blum Drinker, Biddle & Reath Partner

Arne Duncan ED- SEC
Tony Miller ED- ODS

James Kvaal ED- OUS

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

November 24th, 2010

Howard Community College

Katherine Allen Howard CC Director, Financial Aid Services

Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Steve Finley ED- OGC

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

November 29th, 2010

Coalition for Educational Success

Lanny Davis Lanny J. Davis and Associates Principal

Avy Stein Willis Stein & Partners Principal Principal

Lincoln Frank Quad Partners Managing Partner

Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE

Georgia Yuan ED- OGC

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

November 30th, 2010

Rasmussen College

J. Michael Locke Rasmussen CEO

Adam Steinbrunner Rasmussen Director of Student Economics

Taryn Hennessy Rasmussen

James Kvaal ED- OUS

David Bergeron ED- OPE
Steve Finley ED- OGC

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

December 1st, 2010

YTI, Concorde, and Ogle Schools

Tim Foster YTI/Concorde/Ogle CEO and Executive Chairman

Ben Klein Heather Podesta & Partners

Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Steve Finley ED- OGC

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

December 1st, 2010

Regency Beauty

Andrea Fike Regency Senior Vice President and General Counsel

Hayes Batson Regency President

Heather Podesta Heather Podesta & Partners Partner

Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Steve Finley ED- OGC

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

December 1st, 2010

Aerosim Flight Academy

Shannon Sheppard Aerosim Manger of Education

Paul Woessner Aerosim Senior Vice President

Scott Foose Regional Airline Association Vice President

James Kvaal ED- OUS

David Bergeron ED- OPE
Steve Finley ED- OGC

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS

Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment

December 14th, 2010

University of Phoenix/Apollo Group

Mark Brenner UOP Senior Vice President, External Affairs

Joseph D'Amico Apollo Group/UOP President and COO

Matthew Ankrum Apollo Head of Global Strategy

Gergory Cappelli Apollo Group Director, Chairman

James Kvaal ED- OUS

David Bergeron ED- OPE

Steve Finley ED- OGC

Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS