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Matthew B. Lehr (Bar No. 213139) 

Suong T. Nguyen (Bar No. 237557) 

David J. Lisson (Bar No. 250994) 

Chung G. Suh (Bar No. 244889) 

Jeremy Brodsky (Bar No. 257674) 

DAVIS POLK & WARDWELL LLP 

1600 El Camino Real 

Menlo Park, California 94025 

Telephone: (650) 752-2000 

Facsimile: (650) 752-2111 

Attorneys for Plaintiff 

Tyco Healthcare Group LP 

d/b/a VNUS Medical Technologies 

(additional counsel on signature page) 

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 

FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA 

SAN FRANCISCO DIVISION 

TYCO HEALTHCARE GROUP LP d/b/a 

VNUS MEDICAL TECHNOLOGIES,

Plaintiff, 

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BIOLITEC, INC., DORNIER MEDTECH 

AMERICA, INC., and NEW STAR LASERS, 

INC. d/b/a COOLTOUCH, INC., 

Defendants.

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LEAD CASE NO. C08-03129 MMC 

CASE NO. C08-3129 MMC 

STIPULATION AND [PROPOSED] 

ORDER REGARDING EXPERT 

DISCOVERY 

TYCO HEALTHCARE GROUP LP d/b/a 

VNUS MEDICAL TECHNOLOGIES,

Plaintiff, 

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TOTAL VEIN SOLUTIONS, LLC d/b/a 

TOTAL VEIN SYSTEMS,

Defendant.

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CASE NO. C08-04234 MMC 

(consolidated with Case No. C08-03129 

MMC)

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Plaintiff Tyco Healthcare Group LP d/b/a VNUS Medical Technologies and Defendants 

biolitec, Inc., Dornier MedTech America, Inc., New Star Lasers, Inc. d/b/a CoolTouch, Inc., and 

Total Vein Solutions, LLC d/b/a Total Vein Systems (each a “Party” and collectively the “Parties”) 

anticipate that a number of experts will be preparing reports and testifying in this litigation. In 

order to efficiently manage expert discovery, the Parties agree as follows:

1. No drafts of expert reports prepared for this case need be produced. 

2. Reasonably in advance of each expert’s deposition, the expert will be required to 

produce to the opposing side copies of (or to the extent previously produced, identify by production 

Bates number range) all documents and information that were relied upon in preparing the expert’s 

final report. The Parties’ obligations under Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(a)(2)(B)(ii) shall extend only to data 

and information relied upon or, subject to paragraph 3 hereof, otherwise considered by the expert in 

forming the expert’s opinions. 

3. Discovery (from parties or expert witnesses) or questioning of expert witnesses in 

this or any other litigation shall not extend to the production of documents, oral examination, or any 

other form of inquiry concerning communications with such expert witnesses that both: 

(a) occurred during the pendency of, and for purposes of, the above-captioned 

case; and 

(b) were made to, from, at the request of, or in the presence of an attorney for the 

Party expecting to call the person as an expert witness, 

unless the expert relies on the communication as part of the basis for his or her expert testimony. 

For purposes of this Stipulation, “presence” includes physical proximity, inclusion on a telephone 

call, and inclusion on the distribution list of a written communication. Nothing in this Stipulation 

and Order shall be construed to limit the discovery or examination of expert witnesses concerning 

compensation received by such expert witness for his or her testimony in this case and prior or 

concurrent cases involving any of the Parties, if any, including but not limited to disclosures 

required by Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(a)(2)(B)(vi). 

4. Nothing in this Stipulation and Order shall be construed to limit the discovery or 

examination of expert witnesses concerning documents or other information relied on by the expert 

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as a basis for his or her final opinions in this case. 

5. Nothing in this Stipulation and Order prohibits the parties from seeking the full 

range of discovery permitted by law into opinions, reports, deposition or trial testimony, drafts, 

notes, or communications related to any expert’s participation in cases (prior or concurrent) other 

than this one. Nor shall anything in this Stipulation and Order be construed to limit the parties' 

ability to object to or seek a protective order relating to any discovery into opinions, reports, 

deposition or trial testimony, drafts, notes, or communications related to any expert’s participation 

in cases (prior or concurrent) other than this one. 

6. Until such time as this Stipulation and Order has been signed by the Court, the 

Parties agree that upon execution by all Parties, it will be treated as though it had been ordered by 

the Court. 

 The Parties’ assent to the entry of the foregoing Stipulation is hereby given by the Parties by 

and through their attorneys. 

Dated: November 20, 2009 Respectfully Submitted, 

ATTORNEYS FOR PLAINTIFF 

TYCO HEALTHCARE GROUP LP d/b/a 

VNUS MEDICAL TECHNOLOGIES 

By: /s/ David J. Lisson 

 Matthew B. Lehr (Bar No. 213139) 

Diem-Suong T. Nguyen (Bar No. 237557) 

David J. Lisson (Bar No. 250994) 

Chung G. Suh (Bar No. 244889) 

Jeremy Brodsky (Bar No. 257674) 

DAVIS POLK & WARDWELL LLP 

1600 El Camino Real 

Menlo Park, CA 94025 

(650) 752-2000/(650) 752-2111 (fax) 

mlehr@dpw.com 

nguyen@dpw.com 

dlisson@dpw.com 

gsuh@dpw.com 

jbrodsky@dpw.com

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Dated: November 20, 2009 ATTORNEYS FOR DEFENDANT BIOLITEC, INC. 

By: /s/ Charles T. Steenburg 

 Michael A. Albert (pro hac vice)

Michael N. Rader (pro hac vice)

Charles T. Steenburg (pro hac vice)

WOLF, GREENFIELD & SACKS, P.C. 

600 Atlantic Avenue 

Boston, MA 02210 

(617) 646-8000/(617) 646-8646 

malbert@wolfgreenfield.com 

mrader@wolfgreenfield.com 

csteenburg@wolfgreenfield.com 

Dated: November 20, 2009 

 ATTORNEYS FOR DEFENDANT 

NEW STAR LASERS, INC. d/b/a COOLTOUCH, INC. 

By: /s/ James W. Geriak 

 James W. Geriak (Bar No. 32871) 

Allan W. Jansen (Bar No. 81992) 

Mark Stirrat (Bar No. 229448) 

ORRICK, HERRINGTON & SUTCLIFFE LLP 

4 Park Plaza, Suite 1600 

Irvine, CA 92614-2558 

(949) 567-6700/(949) 567-6710 (fax) 

jgeriak@orrick.com

ajansen@orrick.com 

mstirrat@orrick.com 

Dated: November 20, 2009 

 ATTORNEYS FOR DEFENDANT 

DORNIER MEDTECH AMERICA, INC. 

By: /s/ Richard W. Miller 

 A. Shane Nichols (pro hac vice)

Richard W. Miller (pro hac vice) 

KING & SPALDING LLP 

1180 Peachtree Street, N.E. 

Atlanta, GA 30309-3521 

(404) 572-4600/(404) 572-5100 (fax) 

snichols@kslaw.com 

rmiller@kslaw.com 

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Dated: November 20, 2009 

 ATTORNEYS FOR DEFENDANT TOTAL VEIN 

SOLUTIONS, LLC d/b/a TOTAL VEIN SYSTEMS 

By: /s/ Sean M. Sullivan 

 John Karl Buche (Bar No. 239477) 

Sean M. Sullivan (Bar No. 254372) 

BUCHE & ASSOCIATES, P.C. 

875 Prospect, Suite 305 

La Jolla, CA 92037 

(858) 459-9111/(858) 459-9120 (fax) 

jbuche@buchelaw.com

ssullivan@buchelaw.com 

I hereby attest that I have on file written permission to sign this stipulation from all parties 

whose signatures are indicated by a “conformed” signature (/s/) within this e-filed document. 

/s/ David J. Lisson 

David J. Lisson 

PURSUANT TO STIPULATION, IT IS SO ORDERED. 

Dated: , 2009 

 

 

 MAXINE M. CHESNEY 

 United States District Judge 

January 25, 2010

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