February 4, 2008 

MEMORANDUM TO: Michael Junge, Chief 

Operator Licensing and Human Performance Branch 

Division of Construction and Operational Programs 

Office of New Reactors 

FROM: Richard Pelton /RA/

Operator Licensing and Human Performance Branch 

Division of Construction and Operational Programs 

Office of New Reactors 

SUBJECT: SUMMARY OFJANUARY 8, 2008, CATEGORY 2 PUBLIC MEETING 

WITH THE NUCLEAR ENERGY INSTITUTE TO DISCUSS NEW 

REACTOR OPERATOR LICENSING INITIATIVES 

On January 8, 2008, the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) staff held a public 

meeting with Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI), industry representatives, and vendors to discuss 

the operator licensing white papers (ADAMS Accession Number ML080150100) submitted by 

NEI on December 13, 2007. Enclosure 1 lists the attendees at the meeting and individuals who 

participated via teleconference; no members of the general public were present. Enclosure 2 is 

the meeting agenda. Information presented by NEI and industry representatives at the meeting 

is available in ADAMS at Accession Number ML080150006. 

The New Reactor operator licensing white paper discusses cold licensing of the projected 450 

licensed operators necessary to operate the new nuclear power plants. Cold licensing is a 

process used prior to fuel load that provides a method for operations personnel to acquire the 

knowledge and experience required for licensed operator duties following construction. 

Meeting participants agreed that time spent obtaining experience prior to licensing must be 

meaningful and consistently calculated. The final determination of meeting the experience 

requirements rests with the NRC. Consensus between the NRC and NEI was reached in the 

areas of training program accreditation and implementation, in-plant JPMs and on-shift OJT 

during construction, simulator training using a part task/limited scope simulator, continuing 

training prior to and following NRC licensing exams, and scheduling of licensing examinations. 

The NRC noted that additional guidance needs to be developed in the areas of: 

documentation of experience, for each individual, used to meet the Acold license@

eligibility guidance, 

and, overall operating crew experience. 

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In closing, NEI agreed to add additional information pertaining to overall operating crew 

experience and documentation of experience to the white paper. NRC agreed to review the 

submittals. No final positions were taken during the meeting. Additional public meetings may 

be held after NRC has reviewed the submittals being prepared by NEI. 

Enclosure: 

1. List of Attendees 

2. Meeting Agenda 

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In closing, NEI agreed to add additional information pertaining to overall operating crew 

experience and documentation of experience to the white paper. NRC agreed to review the 

submittals. No final positions were taken during the meeting. Additional public meetings may 

be held after NRC has reviewed the submittals being prepared by NEI. 

Enclosure 1: List of Attendees 

Enclosure 2: Meeting Agenda 

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Distribution: 

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ADAMS Package Accession Number: ML080150347 

Meeting Notice Accession Number: ML073520210 

Meeting Handout Accession Numbers: ML080150006 

Meeting Summary Accession Number: ML080290034 

OFFICE DCIP/COLP DCIP/COLP 

NAME RPelton MJunge 

DATE 02/01/08 02/04/08 

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Memo to Michael Junge from Richard Pelton dated February 4, 2008. 

SUBJECT: SUMMARY OF SEPTEMBER 13, 2007, CATEGORY 2 PUBLIC MEETING WITH 

THE NUCLEAR ENERGY INSTITUTE TO DISCUSS NEW REACTOR 

OPERATOR LICENSING INITIATIVES 

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ENCLOSURE 1 

Public Meeting with the Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI) 

Discussion of New Reactor Operator Licensing Initiatives 

January 8, 2008 

Meeting Attendees 

Name Organization 

Glenn Tracy NRC 

Fred Brown NRC 

Mike Junge NRC 

Rick Pelton NRC 

John Munro NRC 

Mark Lintz NRC 

James Biggins NRC 

Paul Pieringer NRC 

Mark Miller (per telcom) NRC 

Rick Baldwin (per telcom) NRC 

Hironori Peterson (per telcom) NRC 

Eddie Grant (per telcom) NuStart 

Todd Newkirk (per telcom) IBEW 

Mark Paul Dominion 

Charles Sawyer Duke Energy 

Gregory Sparks ETR 

Julia Longfellow General Electric 

Mike Llewellyn INPO 

John Brabec Luminant Power 

Jack Roe NEI 

Chris Earls NEI 

Russell Smith NEI 

Hamer Carter Progress Energy 
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Name Organization 

Michael Simpson SCANA 

Mike Marler South Texas Project 

Tom Ryan TVA 

Gregg Ellis UNISTAR 

Paul Hippely Westinghouse 

Joseph White Exelon Nuclear 

Ken Scarola MHI - NAC 

Ted Amundson Southern Nuclear 

Charlie Nesbitt Southern Nuclear 

Satoshi Hanada MNES 
ENCLOSURE 2 

PUBLIC MEETING WITH THE NUCLEAR ENERGY INSTITUTE ON 

NEW REACTOR OPERATOR LICENSING 

DATE/TIME: January 8, 2008/9:00am-1:00pm 

LOCATION: Nuclear Energy Institute 

 4 Main Conference Room 

1776 I Street NW 

Washington DC 

PURPOSE: Discuss comments on NEI White Papers 

Desired Outcomes: By the end of this session, we will have: 

3⁄4 Reviewed comments on NEI White Papers 

3⁄4 Developed a common understanding of the requirements for cold licensing 

of operators 

AGENDA 

TOPIC 

(content) 

WHO 

(leader) 

Time 

(minutes) 

Meeting Introductions: 

• Opening comments 

Junge 15 

Training Program Accreditation 

(Desired Outcome) Understanding of Accreditation timing and 

expectations 

NRC 15 

 JPM’s and OJT During Construction Phase 

(Desired Outcome) Understanding of the use of JPM’s and OJT 

during the construction phase

NRC 15 

Simulator Training using Part Task/Limited Scope Simulator 

(Desired Outcome) Understanding of the use of Limited Scope 

and Plant-Referenced Simulators 

NRC 15 
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 Continuing Training (prior to license exam and after) 

(Desired Outcome) Understanding of the continuing training plans 

NRC 20 

 Scheduling of NRC License Examinations 

(Desired Outcome) Understanding of licensed operator 

examination plans 

NRC 15 

Crew Experience Requirements During First Year of Operation 

(Desired Outcome) Understanding of level of experience required 

NEI 30 

Experience Requirements for License Candidates 

(Desired Outcome) Understanding of level of experience required 

NEI 90 

Review of agenda and action items 

(Desired Outcome) Understanding of action, responsibility and 

due date 

NRC 30 

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