UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:

 IN THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION

 OFFICE OF HEARINGS

IN THE MATTER OF:

JAMES JUAQUINN JORDAN,

 RESPONDENT.

 DOCKET NO. FAA-2015-0205

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 TELECONFERENCE HEARING BEFORE

 THE HONORABLE J.E. SULLIVAN

 WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 14,2015

 10:01 A.M.

 HISTORIC JORDAN SPRINGS

 1160 JORDAN SPRINGS ROAD

 STEPHENSON, VIRGINIA 22656
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1 APPEARANCES

2 ON BEHALF OF THE PLAINTIFF,

3 FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION:

4 REBECCA A. HOLMES, ESQUIRE

5 FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION

6 2601 MEACHAM BOULEVARD

7 FORT WORTH, TEXAS 76137

8 TELEPHONE: 817.222.5065

9 FACSIMILE: 817.222.5945

10 E-MAIL: REBECCA.A.HOLMES@FAA.GOV

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12 ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT,

13 JAMES JUAQUIN JORDAN:

14 PRO SE

15 11980 CARRIAGE PARK LANE

16 JOHNS CREEK, GEORGIA 30097

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1 TELECONFERENCE HEARING

2 WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2015

3 10:01 A.M.

4 THE COURT: Good morning, this is Judge

5 Sullivan. Do I have Ms. Holmes on the line?

6 MS. HOLMES: Yes, Your Honor.

7 THE COURT: And Mr. Jordan?

8 MR. JORDAN: Yes, Your Honor.

9 THE COURT: And I should also have an Andrea

10 Mikus from the County Court Reporters?

11 COURT REPORTER: Yes, Your Honor.

12 THE COURT: And Ms. Mikus, are you ready?

13 COURT REPORTER: I am, Your Honor.

14 THE COURT: We're on the record in the

15 matter of James Joaquin Jordan. This is Docket Number

16 FAA-2015-0205. Today is Wednesday, October 14, 2015,

17 and the parties have reconvened for a litigation

18 scheduling conference. The Federal Aviation

19 Administration, which I'll hereinafter refer to by its

20 initials, the FAA, is represented by its attorney of

21 record, Ms. Rebecca Holmes. Also sitting in as an

22 observer with Ms. Holmes is Ms. Emily Tueller, an FAA

23 attorney.

24 The pro se respondent, Mr. James Joaquin

25 Jordan, is present representing himself. And the
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1 parties have convened for the first time since

2 appearing before the Court on August 4, 2015, for the

3 initially scheduled Rule 16 litigation scheduling

4 conference.

5 As noted by the record, on August 4, 2015,

6 immediately after the conference concluded, an order

7 setting certain scheduling deadlines and continuing

8 the litigation scheduling conference was filed. In

9 essence, that order provided for the parties to

10 exchange some discovery before today's date and time,

11 and to utilize the time to do some research in terms

12 of defenses.

13 So why don't I turn to you first, Ms.

14 Holmes, and ask if you were able to serve Mr. Jordan

15 by email on or before August 7, 2015, with a copy of

16 the relevant portions of the FAA sanction guidance as

17 directed by the Court on August 4, 2015.

18 MS. HOLMES: Yes, Your Honor.

19 THE COURT: Ms. Holmes?

20 MS. HOLMES: Yes, Your Honor, I was able to.

21 THE COURT: Then I'll turn to you, Mr.

22 Jordan, and ask you if you were able to provide to the

23 FAA on or before August 24, 2015, pursuant to this

24 order, any and all information that you thought would

25 be helpful to your potential financial defense. Did
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1 that get done?

2 MR. JORDAN: Yes, Your Honor, I did provide

3 the information to the FAA before August 24th.

4 THE COURT: Okay, great. Then let's talk

5 about the status of the case at this point. Ms.

6 Holmes, turning to you, are we at a point now where we

7 should be setting a motion schedule for venue issues,

8 or is there something else that we need to discuss

9 today before that?

10 MS. HOLMES: Your Honor, at the end of last

11 week Mr. Jordan agreed to settle with the agency.

12 THE COURT: So what's the status of your

13 settlement negotiations? Have you concluded all the

14 paperwork? Is that going to be sent to the Court

15 soon? What's your status?

16 MS. HOLMES: The settlement paperwork that I

17 need to complete within the agency, we've gone to the

18 new program, the national enforcement program, and

19 there seems to be more paperwork than there used to

20 be. So I'm in the process of completing that to send

21 to Mr. Jordan for completion. It is going to be, the

22 settlement is going to require a promissory note, so I

23 have to complete all of that paperwork, and that

24 paperwork is in process right now to be sent to Mr.

25 Jordan.
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1 I have not completed any paperwork to file

2 with the Court, and when we spoke last week, I

3 explained to Mr. Jordan that the Court would be able

4 to explain to him what the process was for him to

5 withdraw.

6 THE COURT: Well, let's talk a little bit

7 about some of this news that you're giving to me,

8 which I'm unaware. So you were telling me that

9 there's a new process for settlements. Can you tell

10 me a little bit more about that just so that I know?

11 MS. HOLMES: There's just additional

12 paperwork. The paperwork that we used to complete,

13 which would just be the order and in this case a

14 promissory note, there is additional paperwork now

15 that needs to be completed under the new program.

16 It's basically the same information, it's just

17 repeated a couple of times.

18 We've got, of course, the order and the

19 promissory note, and then we also have the settlement

20 agreement and the confess judgment note that also

21 needs to be completed. And then we provide

22 information on electronic payments and penalties.

23 THE COURT: And when did this new program go

24 into effect?

25 MS. HOLMES: I believe it was sometime in
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1 August. I don't remember the exact date. The FAA

2 switched, the General Counsel's office switched to a

3 national enforcement program where we have particular

4 attorneys assigned to the national enforcement

5 program.

6 THE COURT: What does that mean?

7 MS. HOLMES: There are certain attorneys in

8 each region that work only for enforcement.

9 THE COURT: Okay. As opposed to what?

10 MS. HOLMES: As opposed to general practice.

11 Generally, the southwest region was set up a little

12 differently, but the regions across the United States,

13 all the attorneys were general attorneys and handled

14 personnel enforcement, acquisitions, kind of across

15 the board. Anything that came in. Whereas now, we

16 have a separate program for just the enforcement

17 attorneys.

18 THE COURT: And when you say the enforcement

19 attorneys, are you talking about attorneys who do

20 litigation before this office, the NTSB, and the

21 Federal District Court, or are you talking about

22 something else?

23 MS. HOLMES: Yes, they will handle, they

24 handle only matters dealing with enforcement for the

25 FAA versus handling generic practice.
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1 THE COURT: Okay. So again, when you talk

2 about specific enforcement attorneys, are you saying

3 that you're scheduling or you're setting up a program

4 where you have litigation specialists as opposed to

5 everyone being a generalist, or is it something other

6 than that?

7 MS. HOLMES: It's not necessarily just

8 litigation. They are, the attorneys that are assigned

9 to the national enforcement program are specific to

10 enforcement. It's not necessarily just the litigation

11 portion of enforcement. It's the compliance and

12 litigation, all areas of the enforcement program.

13 THE COURT: So does that mean that you are

14 now an enforcement specialist, or are you just

15 finishing up some of your cases before enforcement is

16 routed somewhere else?

17 MS. HOLMES: I am finishing up cases that I

18 was working on before the program went into effect.

19 Ms. Tueller is an enforcement attorney.

20 THE COURT: Okay, well that's helpful to

21 know. Thank you very much. Now, in terms of this

22 particular case, knowing what you know with all the

23 paperwork that is before you, how long do you think it

24 will take you to get all of the material to Mr. Jordan

25 for his review and signature?
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1 MS. HOLMES: I'm hoping to have him the

2 material and all of the paperwork by next week.

3 THE COURT: And next week would be on or

4 about the 23rd of October, 2015, or some other date?

5 MS. HOLMES: No, the 23rd would be

6 acceptable.

7 THE COURT: And then, Mr. Jordan, how long

8 do you think it would take you to read that paperwork

9 and return it to Ms. Holmes after reading and perhaps

10 even calling her and asking questions if you had any?

11 MR. JORDAN: Your Honor, I should be able to

12 read and make any phone calls if I need to within a

13 week of receipt of the information.

14 THE COURT: And a week after Friday, October

15 23rd, 2015, would be October 30, 2015. Does that

16 sound about right to you?

17 MR. JORDAN: Yes, Your Honor.

18 THE COURT: What I'm hearing from Ms. Holmes

19 is that she would like you, Mr. Jordan, to file a

20 written notice of withdrawal of your claim, or your

21 request for hearing. Are you familiar with that

22 particular document?

23 MR. JORDAN: Your Honor, I am not familiar.

24 THE COURT: Ms. Holmes, let me ask you a

25 question. Is there some reason why you could not file
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1 a notice that the parties have fully settled the

2 matter and it could be dismissed after you receive Mr.

3 Jordan's materials?

4 MS. HOLMES: Well, Your Honor, the way this

5 always worked for us is that the person who filed for

6 the hearing is the one who withdraws. So that's why I

7 assumed he would need to withdraw.

8 THE COURT: Well, he doesn't necessarily

9 need to do that. And typically with pro se litigants,

10 I've had the FAA file a notice that the parties have

11 settled and requesting an order of dismissal. So do

12 you have a sample notice of withdrawal that you could

13 send to Mr. Jordan that he could copy? If so, that

14 would make it much more likely that I would receive

15 something in due course. If not, then it would be

16 perhaps more expeditious if you would simply send me a

17 notice that the parties have settled and request an

18 order of dismissal. What's your preference?

19 MS. HOLMES: Your Honor, we've never, as I

20 said, the two of us who are sitting in here have never

21 filed anything to, for the Court to withdraw the case.

22 So I do not have any samples of a withdrawal letter,

23 nor do I have, nor have we ever, in essence, withdrawn

24 the case on our side. So I'm not entirely sure.

25 THE COURT: I didn't ask you to withdraw.
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1 I'm asking you if you could notify me that the parties

2 have settled. So you're not withdrawing the complaint

3 since you're settling the complaint. You can always

4 notify me that the parties have settled and move for

5 an order of dismissal on the grounds that you've

6 settled the case. So essentially you're asking me to

7 resolve the matter short of hearing, and I'm happy to

8 do that.

9 When you're dealing with someone who's pro

10 se, my experience has been, with other regional

11 offices at least, the FAA has issued a notice of

12 settlement and a request for an order of dismissal.

13 Do you have contact with other regional attorneys

14 outside of your area?

15 MS. HOLMES: Yes, Your Honor, I can

16 certainly ask the supervisor in that area as well.

17 THE COURT: I don't necessarily have a

18 preference as to which party notifies me, but my

19 experience has been in these cases that when a pro se

20 litigant is involved, it's much, much faster and more,

21 how do I want to say this, I get more accurate

22 paperwork if the attorney who is handling the

23 settlement simply notifies me that the parties have

24 settled and that the case may be dismissed.

25 But I will leave that up to you. And I can
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1 set this matter back, I can basically put a deadline

2 to get receipt of such a document from someone. And

3 if there's no receipt, then the case remains open. So

4 I'm just trying to make sure that I can get something

5 out as soon as possible.

6 MS. HOLMES: I will certainly work on a

7 document, Your Honor. I will have to review, because

8 I believe our settlement notices, part of the

9 settlement agreement is that the case will be

10 withdrawn by the respondent.

11 THE COURT: Well, you certainly can make

12 that agreement. But if your friend across the aisle

13 doesn't know what to do and you don't have any

14 document to show him how to do it, it becomes a very

15 prolonged experience for this Court to get an order of

16 dismissal out. So it may be helpful for your client

17 to consider the possibility of following, or following

18 your counterparts in other regions' excellent practice

19 of simply notifying the Court that you've reached a

20 settlement that all the documents have been filed and

21 that you want the Court to dismiss the case.

22 MS. HOLMES: Your Honor, I will get a

23 document to you for that purpose.

24 THE COURT: In the alternative, basically

25 what you're doing is that you're calendaring a
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1 deadline hoping that your friend across the aisle can

2 meet it. And if that's the case, ideally you would be

3 assisting someone who's not experienced with putting

4 together that paperwork and properly serving it to

5 everybody, which may end up being more time than it

6 would take for you to just file your notice yourself.

7 But it's up to you.

8 Let me ask you both, in terms of a deadline,

9 today is October 14, 2015, and in your best estimates

10 you think you'll have your settlement done by October

11 30, 2015. If I tick this matter on my calendar for

12 November 13, 2015, for either a notice of withdrawal

13 or a notice of settlement, would that be sufficient

14 time for the two of you to have notice in writing sent

15 to the Court, however you choose to do it? Starting

16 with you, Ms. Holmes.

17 MS. HOLMES: Yes, Your Honor.

18 THE COURT: And Mr. Jordan?

19 MR. JORDAN: Yes, Your honor.

20 THE COURT: Then I will tick this case on my

21 calendar for November 13, 2015, for receipt of some

22 notice from the parties about the request for

23 dismissal. That means that I am not going to go

24 forward with setting the matter for any kind of

25 hearing or motion. It also means that we will not be
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1 reconvening by telephone at this time.

2 If I don't receive anything by November 13,

3 2015, I'll basically issue an order requesting a

4 status report from you. But I'm presuming that that's

5 not going to happen. I say that simply because one

6 out of 100 cases has something go awry, and when that

7 happens, I follow up.

8 Ms. Holmes, just so that you have someone to

9 chat with or have your supervisor chat with, I know in

10 the northeast region, Mr. Burman with the FAA would be

11 familiar with this particular practice that I've

12 talked about. And in the southeast region, in the

13 Atlanta region, Mr. Stevenson I think would also be

14 familiar. If that would be helpful to you.

15 MS. HOLMES: Thank you, Your Honor.

16 THE COURT: You're welcome. So, with that,

17 on behalf of the FAA, Ms. Holmes, is there anything

18 else that we need to address for you and your client

19 today?

20 MS. HOLMES: No, Your Honor.

21 THE COURT: Mr. Jordan, on behalf of

22 yourself, anything else we need to address for you

23 today?

24 MR. JORDAN: No, Your Honor. Thank you.

25 THE COURT: Okay, then I will congratulate
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1 you both on your settlement negotiations. I'll wish

2 you the best in looking at all the paperwork that you

3 have to go through and exchanging it with each other.

4 And I look forward to getting either a notice of

5 settlement and/or a request to withdraw on or before

6 November 13, 2015. And Ms. Holmes, if this is the

7 only time I will see you if your job duties have

8 changed and you will no longer be in the enforcement

9 division, I will thank you very much for your

10 representation before this Court and wish you the best

11 in your career. And I will ...

12 MS. HOLMES: Thank you, Your Honor.

13 THE COURT: You're welcome. And I will look

14 forward to litigation from your substitute or

15 replacement in the near future. With that, it appears

16 our business is complete. I'm going to thank you all

17 very much again for your time. We can go off the

18 record, and I wish you all a good day. Thank you so

19 much.

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