UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION 

OFFICE OF HEARINGS 

IN THE MATTER OF: 

WORLD LOGISTICS SOLUTIONS, LLC 

Respondent 

Wednesday, 

January 20, 2016 

FDMS No. 

FAA-2015-0207 

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The teleconference convened, pursuant 

to notice, at 1:30 p.m. 

BEFORE: 

THE HONORABLE J.E. SULLIVAN, 

Administrative Law Judge 

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RECEIVED 

FEB - 4 2016 

HEARING DOCKET 

ORIGINAL 

NEAL R. GROSS 

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APPEARANCES: 

CODY SMITH, ESQ. 

FAA Office of Hearings 

1200 New Jersey Ave SE 

Washington, DC 20590 

202-366-6941 

Cody.Smith@DOT.gov 

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3 ADMIN. JUDGE SULLIVAN: We're on the 

4 record in the matter of World Logistics 

5 Solutions, LLC. This is Docket Number FAA-2015-

6 0207. Today is Wednesday, January 20, 2016. And 

7 the Court has convened for a pre-hearing status 

8 conference. 

9 The Federal Aviation Administration is 

10 represented by its attorney of record, Ms. Kate 

11 Barber. She is not present today, and there's no 

12 explanation for her absence. 

13 The Respondent, World Logistics 

14 Solutions, LLC, is represented by its attorney of 

15 record, Mr. David M. Hernandez. He is not 

16 present, and there is no explanation for his 

17 absence. 

18 Present at the Office of Hearings is 

19 Mr. Cody L. Smith, an attorney advisor with this 

20 office, who's sitting in as an observer only. 

21 Also present, obviously, is the court reporter 

22 who is 

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1 proceedings. 

2 I will note that this case was 

3 referred to the Office of Hearings on 

4 approximately February 26th, 2015, for litigation 

5 proceedings based on a request for hearing that 

6 was filed by the Respondent with the FAA Hearing 

7 Docket on February 26th, 2015. And that 

8 particular request for hearing was dated by the 

9 principle signa tor, on Page 1 of the one page 

10 document, February 9, 2015. 

11 I'll note that shortly after the 

12 Office of Hearings received this material on 

13 February 26th, 2015, Ms. Barber filed a formal 

14 Notice of Appearance indicating that she would be 

15 the attorney of record for the FAA. 

16 On March 4, 2015, there was a Notice 

17 of Assignment of Proceeding filed, and the case 

18 was assigned originally to Judge Richard C. 

19 Goodwin, the judge who formerly had this case. 

20 Judge Goodwin filed on March 19, 2015, 

21 a procedural order which is part of the record. 

22 And I won't review specifically other than to say 

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1 that Judge Goodwin, in this order, set the matter 

2 for hearing in Chicago, Illinois, for a hearing 

3 date sometime after July 1, 2015, subject to 

4 courtroom facilities being available. 

5 On March 27, 2015, the Respondent 

6 filed a formal answer to the complaint. And 

7 thereafter, on October 8 ' 2015, an order 

8 reassigning proceeding was filed, because Judge 

9 Goodwin had transferred from this office to 

10 another agency and was no longer available to 

11 preside over proceedings. At that point, on 

12 October 8, 2015, this Court took over management 

13 and oversight of this case. 

14 Twelve days later, on October 20, 

15 2015, an order setting deadlines for parties' 

16 informal case discussion and report and setting a 

17 pre-hearing status conference was filed. 

18 In this particular order, the Court 

19 directed the parties to confer privately to 

20 discuss the status of the case on or before 

21 December 18, 2015. 

22 The Court also ordered the parties to 

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1 file with the Court, on or before January 8, 

2 2015, a short, informal written report regarding 

3 this informal discussion. 

4 In addition, the Court order directed 

5 the parties to appear today, January 20, 2016, at 

6 1:30 p.m. Eastern time for a pre-hearing status 

7 conference with this Court to discuss the status 

8 of the case. The Court provided the Court ' s 

9 conference line and directed the parties to call 

10 it. 

11 In addition, the Court provided that 

12 if either party had a conflict with the January 

13 20, 2016, date to please notify the opposing 

14 party and also contact the Office of Hearings for 

15 alternate dates and times for scheduling of the 

16 conference. 

17 This particular order, dated October 

18 20, 2015, was served on both parties by United 

19 States mail and was also served by fax to both 

20 parties to their fax number of record. No mail 

21 was returned undeliverable from either party, and 

22 no fax -- the fax confirmation showed that each 

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1 party received the fax by courtesy copy. 

2 So, we are convened here today. And 

3 I will note that on January 8, 2016, excuse me, 

4 the parties failed to file, either a jointly or 

5 unilaterally, a short, informal written report 

6 regarding the status of the case. 

7 In addition, neither party contacted 

8 the Court to ask for an alternate date for 

9 today's conference. And lastly and most 

10 obviously, neither party has appeared today as 

11 directed by the Court to advise the Court of the 

12 status of this case. 

13 There are a variety of different 

14 options that the Court has in terms of addressing 

15 the parties non-compliance with a Court order and 

16 failure to prosecute or respond in litigation. 

17 Given the silence of both parties and 

18 the failure to comply with the Court order by 

19 both parties, it appears that there may have been 

20 a solution reached by these parties and that they 

21 have not notified the Court of this. 

22 Therefore, instead of returning this 

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1 case to the Court's large holding docket, it 

2 would appear to be most efficacious for the Court 

3 to set a deadline for the parties to show cause 

4 why this case should remain on the Court's 

5 docket. And if there is no show cause finding, 

6 the Court will dismiss this action without 

7 further proceedings. 

8 Thus, as of January 20, 2016, it would 

9 appear reasonable, given the parties' failure to 

10 comply with the Court order, failure to file a 

11 Court ordered case status report and failure to 

12 appear for this conference, that setting a 

13 deadline two weeks from today, that being 

14 February 3rd, 2016, for a show cause statement 

15 from either party as to why this case should not 

16 be dismissed would be reasonable. And the Court 

17 will so set that deadline. 

18 If there is no filing by either party 

19 with the Office of Hearings, and when I say 

20 filing I'm referring to the matter being date 

21 stamped received by this office as of February 

22 3rd, 2016, or before, this Court will enter an 

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1 order dismissing this action with prejudice 

2 dismissing the complaint, excuse me, with 

3 prejudice. 

4 With that, it appears our business is 

5 complete. We can go off the record. 

6 (Whereupon, the above-entitled matter 

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C E R T I F I C A T E 

This is to certify that the foregoing transcript 

In the matter of: World Logistics Solutions 

Before: US DOT/FAA 

Date: 01-20-16 

Place: teleconference 

was duly recorded and accurately transcribed under 

my direction; further, that said transcript is a 

true and accurate record of the proceedings. 

Court Reporter 

NEAL R. GROSS 

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