#### Richard H. Ottley, Respondent, *v.*Jackson Memorial African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church, Appellant.

Second Department,

May 16, 1913.

Venue — change of place of trial for convenience of witnesses—when answering affidavits defective.

When on a motion by the defendant to change the place of trial for the convenience of witnesses to the county in which defendant is located and where the notes in suit are payable, the defendant’s moving affidavits name fifteen persons as material and necessary witnesses, but the answering affidavit of the plaintiff denies the materiality of six of the fifteen witnesses named, and alleges that after the maturity of the notes the question of the indebtedness was discussed in the presence of several witnesses residing in Westchester and adjoining counties and that the trustees of defendant admitted the indebtedness, but does not show that plaintiff has conversed with either of the parties named or that he has any personal knowledge as to what they will testify upon the trial, personal knowledge of the affiant will not be presumed, and where the affidavit is further defective in that it is not shown that he has stated the facts he expects to prove to his counsel, or that, after such statement, he has been advised that the witnesses named are material and necessary, the place of trial should be changed.

Appeal by the defendant, the Jackson Memorial African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church, from an order of the Supreme Court, made at the Westchester Special Term and entered in the office of the clerk of the county of W estchester on the 24th day of January, 1913, denying the defendant’s motion for a change of venue.

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      *Henry L. Maxson,*for the appellant.

*Clinton F. Ferris,*for the respondent.

Rich, J.:

The action is to recover upon two promissory notes purporting to be executed by defendant’s trustees at Hempstead, Nassau county, the place where they were payable, and where the defendant church is located. The motive for the change of venue was for the convenience of witnesses and upon the ground that the ends of justice would be promoted by the change. The answer is a general denial of the execution and delivery of the notes, fraud, payment, and that the notes are the individual obligations of the signers.

The moving papers show that fifteen persons reside in Nassau county who are claimed to be material and necessary witnesses for the defendant. The answering affidavit denies the materiality of six of these fifteen witnesses, and alleges that after the maturity of the notes the question of the indebtedness was discussed in the presence of several witnesses residing in Westchester and adjoining counties, and that the trustees of defendant admitted the correctness of plaintiff’s claims. This affidavit is made by the plaintiff, and he does not show that he has had any conversations with either of the persons he names as material witnesses or that he has any personal knowledge as to what they will testify upon the trial. Personal knowledge of the affiant will not be presumed from a mere positive averment of the facts, but it must also appear from the affidavit that such knowledge really existed by a statement of facts from which the inference of knowledge can be fairly inferred. *(Dain’s Sons Co.*v. *McNally Co.,*137 App. Div. 857.) It is not shown and does not appear that plaintiff has stated the facts he expects to prove to his counsel, or that after such statement he has been advised that the witnesses named are material and necessary for the prosecution of his action. It is a rule that the absence of such a statement constitutes a fatal defect and cannot countervail .allegations of the moving party. *(Rieger*v. *Pulaski Glove Co.,*114 App. Div. 174; *Fish v. Fish,*61 id. 572; *Bennett*v. *Weed,*38 Misc. Rep. 291.) It follows that because of these defects, as well as upon the merits, the *224order must be reversed, with ten dollars costs and disbursements, and the defendant’s motion to change the place of trial from the county of Westchester to the county of Nassau granted, with ten dollars costs.

Jenks, P. J., Thomas, Carr and Stapleton, JJ., concurred.

Order reversed, with ten dollars costs and disbursements, and motion granted, with ten dollars costs.