From: Katie Coughlin

To: Meyers, Aaron

Cc: Richard Parker; Alex Hofmann; Andrew Delaski; Aris Marantan; Art Rosenfeld; Bob Saint; Bob Smith; Brenda

Edwards; Brian Coffey; Caitlin Johnson; Carlos Gaytan; Caskey, John; Charlie Drexler; Charlie Stevens; Chris

Bolduc; Chris Brown; Clark Silcox; Creevy, Jim; Dan Cohen; Daniel Young; David Flaten; Emily Marchetti; Eric

Peterson; Freeman, Jeremiah; Gary Fernstrom; Greg Coulter; Greg Rosenquist; Hirsch, Bruce R; James Lass;

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Subject: Re: MVLI LCC & NIA with 2010 material prices

Date: Monday, December 05, 2011 12:39:00 PM

Hi Aaron,

I don't have the results in front of me, but what you refer can be caused by a drop

in the price of the base case unit that is larger than the price drop for the more

efficient units.

If that happens, even though all prices may go down, the incremental first cost will

go up. If you compare the engineering cost curves you'll be able to see if this is

what's happening.

Katie

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Meyers, Aaron

<Aaron.Meyers@cooperindustries.com> wrote:

Richard,

I just now found the time to review the revised information you had sent out with 2010 prices.

Something isn’t making sense to me. My assumption was that this version would include the

corrected start of benefits date (2016 rather than 2010), and would use $1.88 for M3 core steel

rather than $1.30. With the price of all core steels being much higher in the 2010 analysis, I

would have expected to see the incremental first cost go up; however, the results show quite the

opposite. For instance, DL5 EL1 the incremental first cost is $4794 using the 2011 data, yet it is

only $2293 using the higher prices from the 2010 data. What am I missing? Can someone

explain this?

Thanks and Best Regards,

Aaron

From: Richard Parker [mailto:richardparkerdc@gmail.com] 

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:35 PM

To: Alex Hofmann; Andrew Delaski; Aris Marantan; Art Rosenfeld; Bob Saint; Bob Smith; Brenda

Edwards; Brian Coffey; Caitlin Johnson; Carlos Gaytan; Caskey, John; Charlie Drexler; Charlie

Stevens; Chris Bolduc; Chris Brown; Clark Silcox; Creevy, Jim; Dan Cohen; Daniel Young; David

Flaten; Emily Marchetti; Eric Peterson; Freeman, Jeremiah; Gary Fernstrom; Greg Coulter; Greg

Rosenquist; Hirsch, Bruce R; James Lass; Jennifer Tiedeman; Corkran, Jerry L; Jerry Hodge; Jerry
Schoen; Jim Raba; Joanna Mauer; John Cymbalsky; John Rossetti; Katie Coughlin; Ken Winder;

Mahesh P. Sampat; Matthew Nardotti; Maxine Savitz; Meg Waltner; Meyers, Aaron; Michael Hyland;

Michael Rivest; Millure, Dave; Pam Costello; Phil Harter; Phil Hopkinson; Polinski, Raymond; Puesh

Kumar; Richard W. Parker; Rick Anderson; Rob Greeson; Robert Berman; Robert van Buskirk; Robin

Roy; Ryan, Paul; Scott Beck; Simmons, Chuck; Steve Nadel; Steve Rosenstock; Ted Johnstone;

Thomas Petrosino; Tim Ballo; Tom Eckman; Wes Patterson; Zhimei Luo

Subject: Fwd: MVLI LCC & NIA with 2010 material prices

Dear Colleagues,

Attached, as requested and promised, is the corrected LCC/NIA for liquid

immersed transformers based on 2010 materials prices. Thanks to Chris and Katie

for quickly following through on this.

All best,

Richard Parker

Attached are the corrected LCC and downstream NIA results based on the

2010 material prices. Please distribute as you see fit.

-- Chris

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Chris Bolduc

Energy Efficiency Standards Group

Environmental Energy Technologies Division

Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory

t. 416-535-7546

c. 647-832-4021