#include<iostream>
#include<cfloat>
#include<cassert>
#include<cmath>
#include<vector>
#include<algorithm>
#include<stdio.h>
using namespace std;
 
#define EPS (1e-10)
#define equals(a, b) (fabs((a) - (b)) < EPS )
#define dle(a, b) (equals(a, b) || a < b )
static const double PI = acos(-1);

class Point{
public:
  double x, y;
  
  Point ( double x = 0, double y = 0): x(x), y(y){}
  
  Point operator + ( Point p ){ return Point(x + p.x, y + p.y); }
  Point operator - ( Point p ){ return Point(x - p.x, y - p.y); }
  Point operator * ( double a ){ return Point(x*a, y*a); }
  Point operator / ( double a ){ return Point(x/a, y/a); }
  
  double abs() { return sqrt(norm());}
  double norm() { return x*x + y*y; }
  
  bool operator < ( const Point &p ) const {
    return x != p.x ? x < p.x : y < p.y;
  }
  
  bool operator == ( const Point &p ) const {
    return fabs(x-p.x) < EPS && fabs(y-p.y) < EPS;
  }
};

class Segment{
public:
  Point p1, p2;
  Segment ( Point p1 = Point(0.0,0.0), Point p2 = Point(0.0,0.0)): p1(p1), p2(p2){}
  double abs() { return sqrt(norm());}
  double norm() { return (p2.x - p1.x)*(p2.x - p1.x) + (p2.y - p1.y)*(p2.y - p1.y); }
};
typedef Segment Line;
typedef Point Vector;
typedef vector<Point> Polygon;
double norm( Vector a ){ return a.x*a.x + a.y*a.y; }
double abs( Vector a ){ return sqrt(norm(a)); }
Point polar( double a, double r ){ return Point(cos(r)*a, sin(r)*a);}
double getDistance( Vector a, Vector b ){ return abs(a - b); }
double dot( Vector a, Vector b ){ return a.x*b.x + a.y*b.y; }
double cross( Vector a, Vector b ){ return a.x*b.y - a.y*b.x; }
bool isOrthogonal( Vector a, Vector b){
  return equals(dot(a,b),0.0);
}
bool isOrthogonal(Segment s1,Segment s2){
  return equals( dot(s1.p2-s1.p1 , s2.p2-s2.p1) ,0.0 );
}
bool isParallel(Vector a, Vector b){
  return equals(cross(a,b),0.0);
}
bool isParallel(Point a1,Point a2,Point b1,Point b2){
  return isParallel(a1-a2,b1-b2);
}
bool isParallel(Segment s1,Segment s2){
  return equals(cross(s1.p2 - s1.p1 , s2.p2 - s2.p1),0.0);
}
Point project(Segment s,Point p){
  Vector base = s.p2-s.p1;
  double t = dot(p-s.p1,base)/norm(base);
  return s.p1+base*t;
}
Point reflect(Segment s,Point p){
  return p + (project(s,p)-p)*2.0;
}

static const int COUNTER_CLOCKWISE = 1;
static const int CLOCKWISE = -1;
static const int ONLINE_BACK = 2;
static const int ONLINE_FRONT = -2;
static const int ON_SEGMENT = 0;
 
// EPS can be 0
// need to check for 920, 833, 866
int ccw( Point p0, Point p1, Point p2 ){
    Vector a = p1 - p0;
    Vector b = p2 - p0;
    if ( cross(a, b) > EPS ) return COUNTER_CLOCKWISE;
    if ( cross(a, b) < -EPS ) return CLOCKWISE;
    if ( dot(a, b) < -EPS ) return ONLINE_BACK;
    if ( norm(a) < norm(b) ) return ONLINE_FRONT;
    return ON_SEGMENT;
}

bool isIntersect(Point p1, Point p2,Point p3,Point p4){
  return (ccw(p1,p2,p3) * ccw(p1,p2,p4) <=0 &&
	  ccw(p3,p4,p1) * ccw(p3,p4,p2) <=0);
}

bool isIntersect(Segment s1,Segment s2){
  return isIntersect(s1.p1 , s1.p2 , s2.p1 , s2.p2);
}

Point getCrossPoint(Segment s1,Segment s2){
  assert(isIntersect(s1,s2));
  Vector base = s2.p2 - s2.p1;
  double d1 = abs(cross(base, s1.p1-s2.p1));
  double d2 = abs(cross(base, s1.p1-s2.p1));
  double t = d1/(d1+d2);
  return s1.p1 + (s1.p2 - s1.p1)*t;
}

double getDistanceLP(Line s,Point p){
  return abs(cross(s.p2-s.p1,p-s.p1)/abs(s.p2-s.p1));
}

double getDistanceSP(Segment s,Point p){
  if(dot(s.p2-s.p1,p-s.p1)<0.0)return abs(p-s.p1);
  if(dot(s.p1-s.p2,p-s.p2)<0.0)return abs(p-s.p2);
  return getDistanceLP(s,p);
}

double getDistance(Segment s1,Segment s2){
  if(isIntersect(s1,s2))return 0.0;
  return min(min(getDistanceSP(s1,s2.p1),getDistanceSP(s1,s2.p2)),
	     min(getDistanceSP(s2,s1.p1),getDistanceSP(s2,s1.p2)));
}

bool isConvex( Point P[4] ){
    int c = ccw(P[0], P[1], P[2]);
    for ( int i = 1; i < 4; i++ ){
      if ( c != ccw(P[i], P[(i+1)%4], P[(i+2)%4] )) return false;
    }
    return true;
}
bool isConvex( vector<Point> P ){
    int c = ccw(P[0], P[1], P[2]);
    for ( int i = 1; i < 4; i++ ){
      if ( c != ccw(P[i], P[(i+1)%4], P[(i+2)%4] )) return false;
    }
    return true;
}

Polygon andrewScan(Polygon s){
  Polygon u,l;
  if(s.size()<3)return s;
  sort(s.begin(),s.end());
  u.push_back(s[0]);
  u.push_back(s[1]);
  l.push_back(s[s.size()-1]);
  l.push_back(s[s.size()-2]);
  
  //int n;
  for(int i=2;i<(int)s.size();i++){
    for(int n=u.size();n>=2&&ccw(u[n-2],u[n-1],s[i])!=CLOCKWISE;n--){
      u.pop_back();
    }
    u.push_back(s[i]);
  }
  
  for(int i=s.size()-3;i>=0;i--){
    for(int n=l.size();n>=2&&ccw(l[n-2],l[n-1],s[i])!=CLOCKWISE;n--){
      l.pop_back();
    }
    l.push_back(s[i]);
  }
  
  reverse(l.begin(),l.end());
  for(int i=u.size()-2;i>=1;i--)l.push_back(u[i]);
  
  return l;
}



int main(){
  Point in;
  Polygon t;
  int n,a,b;
  char ch;
  while(cin>>n&&n){
    t.clear();
    for(int i=0;i<n;i++){
      cin>>in.x>>ch>>in.y;
      t.push_back(in);
    }
    b=t.size();
    t=andrewScan(t);
    a=t.size();
    cout<<b-a<<endl;
  }
  
  return 0;
}

Measured memory_bytes: 1248