Issue with feature fusion

username: ahmed
cooked: <p>Hi,</p>
<p>I am attempting to fuse features from colour and visible images using a pre-trained ResNet50 model. It works fine when i train it on colour images and provides decent results, however, when I try to use it in a way to fuse the colour image with thermal images within the network, the model trains fine but then the loss gets stuck around 20%.</p>
<p>I am using matlab to calculate the miss rate, which is  quite high, at about 50% and does not seem to decrease. I have tried to increasing/decreasing the learning rate but this not help much.</p>
<p>Based on papers i have read online on this topic, 6-10 epochs should be sufficent to train the model, however this has not been the case for me and i believe it has something to do with the way i am fusing the data.</p>
<p>Please find my fusion code below:</p>
<pre><code class="lang-auto">class DeepFusionNetwork(torch.nn.ModuleDict):
    def __init__(self, model):
        super(DeepFusionNetwork, self).__init__()
        self.model = model
        self.conv1 = self.model.body.conv1
        self.bn1 = self.model.body.bn1
        self.relu = self.model.body.relu
        self.maxpool = self.model.body.maxpool
        self.layer1 = self.model.body.layer1
        self.layer2 = self.model.body.layer2
        self.layer3 = self.model.body.layer3
        self.layer4 = self.model.body.layer4
        self.fpn = self.model.fpn
        self.conv2 = nn.Conv2d(1024, 512, kernel_size=(1,1), stride=(1,1), bias=False)

    def forward(self, img1, img2, targets=None):
        out = OrderedDict()
        self.conv2 = self.conv2.to(device)
        x, y = self.conv1(img1), self.conv1(img2)
        x, y = self.bn1(x), self.bn1(y)
        x, y = self.relu(x), self.relu(y)
        x, y = self.maxpool(x), self.maxpool(y)
        
        x, y = self.layer1(x), self.layer1(y)
        out[0] = x

        x, y = self.layer2(x), self.layer2(y)
        z = F.relu(torch.cat((x, y), dim=1))
        z = self.conv2(z)
        
        out[1] = z
        z = self.layer3(z)
        out[2] = z
        z = self.layer4(z)
        out[3] = z
        features = self.fpn(out)
        return features
</code></pre>

username: ahmed
cooked: <p>I have also noticed that the model does not output any predicitions unless i use a large number of images for training.</p>

username: ptrblck
cooked: <p>Your code looks generally fine.<br>
I’m not sure, which model you are passing to your custom model, as the <code>torchvision</code> resnet50 doesn’t have a <code>body</code> and <code>fpn</code> module.</p>
<p>Could you explain the last issue a bit more?<br>
Your model should return the <code>features</code> tensor regardless of the used batch size.</p>

username: ahmed
cooked: <p>Thank you for your reply. I am using the <a href="https://pytorch.org/tutorials/intermediate/torchvision_tutorial.html" rel="nofollow noopener">Faster R-CNN</a> example from the pytorch website, which is why there is <code>body</code> and <code>fpn</code> modules.</p>
<p>The issue is, that when I train the model without the fusion layers i.e.</p>
<pre><code class="lang-auto">z = F.relu(torch.cat((x, y), dim=1))
z = self.conv2(z)
</code></pre>
<p>the model trains fine, however, when I use the fusion layers, the model seems to be training with the loss reducing, however, the predictions are very bad.</p>
<pre><code class="lang-auto">Your model should return the features tensor regardless of the used batch size.
</code></pre>
<p>Sorry I should have been more clear, I meant to say that when I have a low number of samples in my trainloader, the model does not produce any predictions.</p>
<p>I hope I have answered your questions.</p>

username: ptrblck
cooked: <p>Is the loss reducing in the same range for both approaches or is the second approach significantly worse regarding the loss?<br>
Do you change anything else besides using the mentioned layer?</p>

username: ahmed
cooked: <blockquote>
<p>Is the loss reducing in the same range for both approaches or is the second approach significantly worse regarding the loss?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The loss does reduces similarily in both approaches, however, when i use the feature fusion model, the loss goes to about 30% and does not seem to reduce much further, even when using a lower learning rate for an extended number of epochs. When i use the model without feature fusion, the loss goes down to around 10% in comparison with the same amout of epochs and learning rate.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Do you change anything else besides using the mentioned layer?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Nothing else is changed other than that layer.</p>
<p>I just can’t wrap my head around why the outcomes of the two models are so differnt. I would expect both models to have similar results, however, as i mentioned previously, the fusion-based model doesnt even produce prdictions unless the train loader has at least 1000 samples.</p>

username: ptrblck
cooked: <p>The the “fusion layer” your own implementation to concatenate the output of both images after passing them through a conv layer?<br>
If so, could you check the statistics of these activations?<br>
If they are largely different, you might need to normalize them before concatenating.</p>

username: ahmed
cooked: <p>Thank you again for your prompt reply.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>The the “fusion layer” your own implementation to concatenate the output of both images after passing them through a conv layer?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The “fusion layer” takes places between <code>layer2</code> and <code>layer3</code> of the pre-trained resnet50 model. For <code>self.conv2</code> in my custom <code>DeepFusionNetwork</code>, I am simply reducing the output of <code>1024</code>, which is generated from the concatenation, to <code>512</code>, to match the input of <code>layer2</code> in <code>resnet50</code>.</p>
<p>I hope that this makes sense and that I have done that correctly.</p>
<pre><code class="lang-auto">ResNet(
  (conv1): Conv2d(3, 64, kernel_size=(7, 7), stride=(2, 2), padding=(3, 3), bias=False)
  (bn1): BatchNorm2d(64, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
  (relu): ReLU(inplace=True)
  (maxpool): MaxPool2d(kernel_size=3, stride=2, padding=1, dilation=1, ceil_mode=False)
  (layer1): Sequential(
    (0): Bottleneck(
      (conv1): Conv2d(64, 64, kernel_size=(1, 1), stride=(1, 1), bias=False)
      (bn1): BatchNorm2d(64, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
      (conv2): Conv2d(64, 64, kernel_size=(3, 3), stride=(1, 1), padding=(1, 1), bias=False)
      (bn2): BatchNorm2d(64, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
      (conv3): Conv2d(64, 256, kernel_size=(1, 1), stride=(1, 1), bias=False)
      (bn3): BatchNorm2d(256, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
      (relu): ReLU(inplace=True)
      (downsample): Sequential(
        (0): Conv2d(64, 256, kernel_size=(1, 1), stride=(1, 1), bias=False)
        (1): BatchNorm2d(256, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
      )
    )
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      (bn3): BatchNorm2d(256, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
      (relu): ReLU(inplace=True)
    )
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      (bn3): BatchNorm2d(256, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
      (relu): ReLU(inplace=True)
    )
  )
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        (0): Conv2d(256, 512, kernel_size=(1, 1), stride=(2, 2), bias=False)
        (1): BatchNorm2d(512, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
      )
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    )
  )
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      )
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      (bn3): BatchNorm2d(1024, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
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    )
  )
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      (bn1): BatchNorm2d(512, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
      (conv2): Conv2d(512, 512, kernel_size=(3, 3), stride=(2, 2), padding=(1, 1), bias=False)
      (bn2): BatchNorm2d(512, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
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      (bn3): BatchNorm2d(2048, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
      (relu): ReLU(inplace=True)
      (downsample): Sequential(
        (0): Conv2d(1024, 2048, kernel_size=(1, 1), stride=(2, 2), bias=False)
        (1): BatchNorm2d(2048, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
      )
    )
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      (conv2): Conv2d(512, 512, kernel_size=(3, 3), stride=(1, 1), padding=(1, 1), bias=False)
      (bn2): BatchNorm2d(512, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
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      (bn3): BatchNorm2d(2048, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
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      (bn3): BatchNorm2d(2048, eps=1e-05, momentum=0.1, affine=True, track_running_stats=True)
      (relu): ReLU(inplace=True)
    )
  )
  (avgpool): AdaptiveAvgPool2d(output_size=(1, 1))
  (fc): Linear(in_features=2048, out_features=1000, bias=True)
)
</code></pre>
<blockquote>
<p>If so, could you check the statistics of these activations?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>By this, do you mean something like <a href="https://discuss.pytorch.org/t/how-to-extract-features-of-an-image-from-a-trained-model/119/49">this</a>?</p>
<blockquote>
<p>If they are largely different, you might need to normalize them before concatenating.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>In terms of normalisation, I’m assuming you mean something like <a href="https://discuss.pytorch.org/t/how-to-normalize-a-tensor-to-0-mean-and-1-variance/18766/3">this</a> (i.e. there is no special means of normalisation required just because I am concatenating features)</p>