Thenapy and the PGAT Formula
 Shall we have a look at how to use the PCAT formula as a therapeutic process?
 You have a problem, which is the 'P' state. You do some spins, 'C which spins
 the mind out of the problem.
 'A'You find some kind of resource, you spin around until the resource ends up
 mixing up with the problem and 'T outcomes - with the question here - you test
 whether they have attached properly.
 PGAT Formula for Therapy
 P - Parameters - Access the Problem.
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Use awareness language to intensify the problem, using predicates
 such as: think, feel, consider, become aware of, contemplate, recall,
 remember, experience, look at, see, hear or notice.
 ,/ You also have spatial words like deeper and inside.
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You have time words like now, through and during.
 Build the problem up as if it is a current experience.
 Intensify the problem to the extent that you can help them resolve
 it.
 ,/ Then you can do some of the systems questions:
 o What's the problem?
 o Where are you now?
 o Where do you want to be?
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 C - Critical Factor Bvpass - Spin the mind out of the problem.
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Use directional predicates that distance them from the problem i.e. past,
 aside from, far, yet, now.
 Distancing them from the problem creates space for something else to
 happen.
 ,/ Clearing the slate, some language for that:
 o Aside from...you're moving yourself away from 'that'
 o Beyond Above all...you're getting physical distance
 o After
 o Until...until creates a dividing line
 o But...is a dividing line
 o Ago...puts it behind you
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 o You can also go before time, 'it's before this', ?s if the problem hasn't
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 o To the extent' is a useful one. "Can you think about the problem only
 to the extent that you can go beyond that now?"
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A - Access Resources - Find a resource and spin them around
 until they find a solution.
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The solution is to help them go inside and find a resource.
 How can you help them find a solution?
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 1. Spin them around until they naturally fall into a trance of infinite
 possibilities.
 1. Remember, this is where anything good or bad can happen.
 2. Once they're in it, you can steer them towards one thing or another.
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We're going to have them start searching for solutions.
 ,/ You do not need to know what the solution is, they will.
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To the extent that you let them find it, not only does your life get
 easier, so does theirs.
 Take them to the state they want to be in.
 o You'll be more successful in life.
 o You will be happier.
 o You will feel better.
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 7- Transform -Make sure the outcome is where they want to
 go. Test whether they have attached properly to the outcome.
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Essentially you're saying, '?s you think about the problem, take the
 resources with you and change".
 ,/ Now we need to have a test to make sure they've attached to that
 outcome. We need to know that it's worked.
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There's a very simple device that allows you to test things covertly. lt's
 called is a rhetorical question.
 lt's a question that you don't really need an answer to.
 '/ What you're really doing is asking the other person's unconscious mind
 to give you a demonstration of where they're at.
 Will you be able to solve every problem like this? No, it's a process, a simple
 process. You're sitting on a park bench with someone who is a little bit miserable.
 That will work fine. A friend of yours is having a bad day. That will work just fine.
 Someone who has come back from a war zone? I don't think that'll work out fine,
 there's going to be a little more that you'll need.
 Let me do a little pre-frame here, we'll only go through the idea of covert therapy
 on the following understanding:
 1. lf you are not already a hypnotherapist, in other words, you don't have all
 the other trainings and skills that plug into this, please do not work with
 big issues with people. Deal with small things like a study aide, exam stress
 where they have a test coming up, or they feel a little blue and you want
 to pick them up and so on. Those things are fine.
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lf we're talking about real therapy, deeper emotional issues and so on,
 please do not go there unless you have the skill set that allows you to
 manage those things that may come out if you start digging around bigger
 stuff.
 2. For those of you who aren't interested in therapy in that sense, please
 treat this model more as a contrast to what you did earlier so you can see
 the range, how you can have the same formula and actually apply it in
 different ways, so you can start applying it to whatever you want.
 3. lf you're already trained as hypnotherapists then go nuts, have fun with it.
 You can do this very overtly as well, right? But this is an advanced covert hypnosis
 training isn't it, not an advanced overt hypnosis training. We expect we'll be able
 to do things at the end of this that no one else other than you will actually realize
 you've done, right?
 Most of you will be familiar with this. There are many different versions of this
 vehicle, but this is the simplest one, so we may as well throw it out there.
 The'My Friend John' Technique
 Essentially, the My Friend John technique is you telling a story about someone
 else, who had the same problem but went through a particular process, at the
 end of which he no longer had the problem.
 ln describing what happened to him you're actually guiding the other person
 through the same experiences so they can resolve their problems.
 Example - I had a friend called John. John had a problem. lt was a real issue. You
 know those kinds of problems that follow you around? The more you think about
 that thing, the more annoying it gets. lt was a small thing but it was really blown
 out of proportion to the point that even considering it used to just wind him up.
 You know those feelings you get when you think about things and you just can't
 get past that?
 The interesting thing about John was that he's sitting there thinking about that
 problem, he's really considering that problem, and at some point John said to
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 whilst lwas thinking about this problem, are all things where I could feel good,
 but I wasn't."
 To an extent, he realized that all he had to do was look beyond the problem at
 the whole of his life, and he suddenly realized this was a tiny thing compared to
 everything else, isn't it? So there's John looking at those things going "Wow,
 really? l've been doing all this stuff to myself. Why should I bother?"
 Of course, then he begins to recall. Once you can look back and realize that it's
 not you, you can begin to recall and remember all those times that are so much
 better than that.
 There's John sitting on his park bench thinking through some pretty deep issues.
 He's beginning to remember amazing times in his life, inside of those memories.
 Experiences begin to grow to remind him just how much more he is than that.
 Of course, you know what happened to John, don't you? He starts to feel good,
 doesn't he? He sits there, he's smiling and he's contemplating all those things
 that he's not - or at least used to be - and he can be again, to the point, that
 when he looks at all those things that used to bug him he is so far beyond them
 that looking at the problem he actually realizes hey, I can deal with this.
 lgor's Comments
 He only has to look at that one problem one step at a time and realize, every
 single thing he's had in his life, all those experiences have prepared him to look at
 that and go "Wow, I'm far beyond that now". That's why I like John he's a real
 thinker.
 My recommendation is you actually use real people because it's easier for you to
 keep the reality frame.
 How do you use it in sales? lt's the same process, you talk about clients that did
 certain things, that wanted certain things and this is how they reacted, how they
 thought, how their own objections got overcome, and as a result of which how
 happy they are.
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 We're in the problem or the general parameters. We're really in the same
 position; we're just going to elaborate on the language until you've intensified
 the problem enough that they're actually plugged into it.
 Think of it in terms of having the neurology light up. When the problem lights up
 there's enough charge there that when you steal the electricity, it drains it out of
 the problem so there's no longer a problem.
 Once you've plugged them into the problem you need to get them out of the
 problem enough that they have choices.
 The next one gets very interesting. We're at the'access resources'stage. We're
 going to have them start searching for solutions. You do not need to know what
 the solution is, they will. They don't know it yet, but they will. To the extent that
 you let them find it, not only does your life get easier, so does theirs.
 How can you help them find a solution? The simplest version of all is to spin them
 around until they naturally fall into a trance of infinite possibilities. Remember,
 this is where anything good or bad can happen.Once they're in it, you can steer
 them towards one thing or another.
 I'd like to introduce you to some other ideas.
 Regression Thenapy
 How might you do a regression purely linguistically, given the model we just set
 up? Do you know what the simplest way of regressing someone is?
 You follow the affect bridge. Basically, a strong emotion comes up and you're
 already halfway there at that point. Those of you who have done the
 conversational hypnotherapy training know what l'm talking about.
 Example - There's John sitting on the park bench and he's feeling terrible. All
 those emotions are welling up, really welling up. He feels it intensely inside
 himself. He's feeling all those things and it's growing stronger, so much more
 than before.
 We're taking the idea of the problem and rather than spinning too soon, we're
 letting the problem itself develop the emotion we'll regress on. So, there he is
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 memories?"
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 are you in your
 Do you remember the questions from before? Where are you going inside your
 memories?
 Example Continued - Beyond the present moment, his thoughts were racing
 back, because he's felt this before. "When did you feel this?" John asked himself.
 "When did you feel this?" Suddenly, he stepped back from himself and he looked
 right down there and saw 'Oh my God, I was that young? Look at that little bov" ,
 he told himself, "so young, all the way down there". He felt a real wave of
 compassion because that kid was suffering.
 lgor's Comments
 Do you see where we're going with this right now in terms of regression therapy?
 We have the emotion, do we not, the 'affect brid ge'? We've gone back on the
 affect bridge. We've done the dissociation to give him some distance to be able
 to do something, and we've begun the coaching process from adult to child.
 Are these not classic maneuvers in regression therapy? You work out how the
 whole story can actually run someone through these maneuvers totally covertly.
 You're just talking about John and his poor messed up childhood, but really
 everyone else, as long as you track, are they keeping track with you, are their
 emotions welling up with you, are they distancing themselves - if they're not
 distancing enough you might add something.
 Example Continued - He was looking at
 thought far and beyond this, above all
 perspective and realize it's just one little
 there.
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 that and he was still welling up, so he
 else let's look at the whole of life in
 moment. That poor little kid way over
 You're really emphasizing those movements until the person pulls themselves
 together enough, which tells you they've just dissociated.
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 Dynamic Mental lmagery
 l'll just give you a quick overview of the symbols induction of dynamic mental
 imagery so you know what we're doing.
 Basically, you send someone to a calming, relaxing place, from there they go
 somewhere else, have a symbol come up, they interact with the symbol to the
 point they get a resolution. They symbolically change with the symbol chang€S,
 and you've all seen how powerful that is when it's done well.
 Example - There's John sitting on the park bench and he's feeding the ducks. lt
 kind of reminds him of that warm comfortable place he used to go as a kid. The
 water shimmering, the sun is shining down, not a care in the world. lt was a
 beautiful day in John's life, a really beautiful day.
 One of those days when nothing can go wrong, do you know what I mean?
 There's John thinking back and really enjoying that beautiful day. Of course, this
 is how daydreams work, isn't it? ln his daydream his mind begins to wander.
 It wanders down a path one way or another, he doesn't quite know all the
 different directions it could take, but as he wanders this path he has a feeling
 something is happening, and it's something very important. Something is
 happening that relates to that problem that he was thinking about, and it's very
 important.
 He doesn't realize that as his mind wanders the highways of his daydreams, he's
 walking towards a place inside his mind where something is going to happen,
 where that problem will just disappear. He doesn't realize this yet. All he knows is
 that he's wandering and it's kind of an interesting site. Some past memories,
 some experiences, some heartfelt thoughts - and there it is, that other place.
 The interesting thing is, just when he gets there, he discovers a symbol, a dream
 symbol. Much like you can have dreams every night, and you can dream of
 someone that represents someone else -it looks like a friend but it's really a
 relative, you know that kind of dream I mean.
 He has a dream just like that. He sees an actual symbol, something he did not
 expect to see. He actually sees a symbol. He tells himself "John, look at that.
 What is that"? The one thing he knows is he did not expect it to be there, he
 doesn't even know what it means yet. Yet there it is, right in front of him.
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 The strangest thing occurs - in the back of his mind John gets the sense that it
 means something. lt's so important, if only he could put his finger on it, it would
 totally resolve the problem he was thinking about, but he doesn't know what it is
 yet.
 How could he? He's having a daydream, and yet there it is right in front of his
 eyes. He can feel it, the pressure is building, and it almost makes sense, but not
 quite yet.
 lgor's Comments
 Do you see where we're going with this? Can you follow the whole process of the
 dynamic induction based on that? lt's kind of a dramatic story anyway.
 A'Like to Dislike' Pattem
 You want to switch something that they like and get them dislike it, like chocolate
 for example. Like chocolate, and they want to not like chocolate as much.
 We can talk about John not liking chocolate, no big deal, or we can make it
 vaguer, talk about one thing and make it something different. I don't care either
 way. We'll do it the hard wdy, why not?
 Let's say you want to change your approach to chocolate, and use something
 different to make you change chocolate.
 Example - There's John sitting on that bench. He starts thinking about this.
 There's his ex-girlfriend, and he loves this girl. That's a problem for him because
 he knows that this is no good for him anymore, but he loves this.
 It's like one of those things that you know you shouldn't have, but you just can't
 help but say yes.There's John sitting on his park bench and he really loves her,
 but when he looks at her he suddenly realizes it's not the thing that he loves, it's
 how it makes him feel.
 It can't be her; it's all about him. As he looks at her, the strangest thing begins to
 happen. That image of her seems to recede into the distance and all that's left is
 this strange kind of shimmer in that place.
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ln his daydream, he's thinking about that girl next door in the office, the one that
 really does care for him, and the one that's good for him. So, he thinks, this really
 is good for me, I know it. This is good for me. But he doesn't feel it yet.
 So, he begins to wonder - what if I saw that person with these qualities right here
 in the shimmering, that position right there? I wonder what would happen if I
 could do that now? But you can do anything in a daydream, can't you?
 So, inside his mind he just sends that other person in, the one that is good for
 him, shimmering just in the right wdv, just in the right size, just in the right place.
 Do you know what happened? lt felt exactly the same way.
 He looks at this new person, it feels like a new person, she's good for him and he
 likes it. He thought to himself , "l might just keep this".
 The Drcam Machine
 l'll give you one more thing in terms of expanding your horizons. lt's one I really
 like; I call this the 'Dream Machine'. The Dream Machine is awesome because
 you can change anything.
 ln dreams crazy things happen don't they? And, of course, have you ever had a
 dream that when you woke up from the dream - like say something bad
 happened in the dream, and when you woke up you still felt the aftershock of
 that so it kind of ruined your day?
 You've also had the other kind of dream haven't you, where something so good
 happened that for no apparent reason you wake up and you feel great. ln fact,
 your whole day goes well, doesn't it?
 Example - There's Jim, and he's lying in bed at night and he's wondering "What
 kind of dream will I have?" One thing is for sure, he's got a machine inside his
 mind that knows when to dream. He doesn't have to plan them.
 Who sits there before going to bed and plans out the first thing that'll happen,
 this person will come up - who does that? Jim certainly didn't. He went to sleep
 and he realized that anything can happen in your dreams. lt can, can't it?
 Anything can happen in your dreams and it can be good.
 You can dream of a problem and realize that you are so much more.
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 By the w?y, do you see this? The Dream Machine now does this. You go through
 the whole process because it's a metaphorical resolution, it's an extra step and
 it's simple and easy. You don't even have to tell them what the resources are.
 lnside their dream who knows how he's going to solve that problem. He doesn't
 have to, the Dream Machine knows.
 Example Continued - All he has to do is kick back and fall asleep, let the dream
 come and resolve it for you. That's what he said to himself. "Just let that dream
 come and resolve it for you."
 One thing is for sure, you are so much more than you've ever realized. John
 must've been right. He knows he's had all these experiences in his past that have
 made him the person that he is. He has succeeded so wildly in ways that he didn't
 even notice.
 Something inside him must know much more about how to grow and change as a
 human being than his conscious mind ever could. John's a smart fellow. He
 decided to do some sleep therapy. He went to sleep and allowed those dreams to
 come- healthy dreams, healing dreams, dreams that took him far beyond his
 wildest imagination, because the Dream Machine is where that is all created.
 Of course, that's where it can be solved, can't it? He had an amazing dream.
 When he woke up in the morning guess what? He felt far and beyond better than
 he's ever done before, only this time it stayed with him for the rest of the day.
 That became a pattern for the rest of the week and that set a trend for the rest of
 his life.
 Sleep Therapy
 Now we're going to do the same, but we're now using a language to spin them
 through a different situation and different complexes.
 Do you understand how in this stage, the'A'stage, the search for solution stage,
 you have so many resources available to you its' unreal?
 Finally, we come onto the "T" transforming stage, where you just attach the
 solution to the problem. Essentially you're saying, "As you think about the
 problem, take the resources with you and change".
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Example - John thought about the problem, and it was changing.
 This is not rocket science, although it may seem like it at first.
 The Test
 Now, because we are doing covert therapy, w€ need to have a test in there
 somewhere, and we need to know that it's worked. There's a very simple device
 that allows you to test things covertly.
 That's called is a rhetorical question. lt's a question that you don't really need an
 answer to. What you're really doing is asking the other person's unconscious
 mind to give you a demonstration of where they're at.
 Example - At the end of this dream, John wakes up. How do you think he felt?
 lgor's Comments
 You watch them. lf they go "ugh", then they're not there yet. lf they say "tell me"
 they've already told you, haven't they?
 You have to watch your audience to see their reaction to the rhetorical question
 because that's what the unconscious mind is doing. By the way, does this seem
 ingenious to you? lt's no! this has been around for thousands of years.
 Do you know where this exists? Fairy Tales. There's been an interesting trend of
 late where people have cleaned up fairy tales, all the bad stuff. Think about what
 they're doing. You had a context in which children have the opportunity to face
 difficult moments and come out resolving them.
 You now take away the difficult moment, how are they ever going to know how
 to react when the actual event happens? There's no safety mechanism left for
 them to deal with it.
 Depending on how you tell that story, can you not see how a simple fairy tale,
 while emphasizing the PCAT formula, (because all fairy tales have a PCAT process
 in them), could allow children to resolve their issues without having to think
 about them?
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Versus, if you clean it all up, there's no problem. All it is, is Billy was happy. Yay!
 Billy is still happy. Yay! Billy will carry on being happy. Yay! There's no
 transformation going on.
 Personally, lthink it's a little bit ridiculous to clean up fairy tales. You guys get to
 have your opinions on this sort of thing, but I look at it like a covert hypnotist.
 Based on that, do you understand the process and how simple it is, but really
 how sophisticated you can get in all these stages?
 The point of this is you don't run through it like a script, you stay on each stage
 until you watch the response occurring inside the other person.
 EGRCFiE - IT'IY FREND JOI-IN' TECHNICUE
 1. Spend 10 minutes each with your partner. Choose a problem, or let your
 unconscious choose one for you" Your unconscious gets to select one for
 you, and surprise you with how much better you feel when you don't have
 those things anymore.
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lt really doesn't matter what you think you know, you just let the other
 person tell you a fine story about his friend called Jim, John, James,
 Billy Goat, whatever; and just observe how your own body naturally
 responds to the transition of the story.
 o That means you get to do covert therapy. You get to change things that
 are so secret you don't even know you have them. Pretty good, isn't it?
 lgor's Comments
 It's easier by the way if you've learned hypnotherapy, because that's what you
 were doing. The purpose of the exercise is not for you to be good at it, yet. The
 only purpose of the exercise is for you to learn more about the process.
 Do you notice how these stories become easier to tell when your mind can go to
 where it went yesterday, which is inside theirs?
 That's the point folks. lf you have to sit there and script it out you've missed the
 point.

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