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 we're all slaves senica says he says
actually show me someone who isn't a
slave he said this person to ambition
this one to their mistress this one to
Wine he was talking about how so many of
us even if we're powerful even if we're
rich even if we're famous we're addicted
to
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something maybe you can't start your
morning without coffee or cigarette or a
drink or maybe you can't go to bed
without doing those things or some other
thing right we're all have a addictive
Tendencies but addiction comes when that
thing gains full and complete power over
us when we are powerless to not do that
thing I'm <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED_PERSON> I'm the author
of a number of books about stoic
philosophy I've spoken about it to the
NFL and the NBA sitting Senators Special
Forces leaders I'm also a human being
with my own addictive Tendencies and my
own demons that I've battled workaholism
being the darkest and the hardest of one
it's also a reason that I don't drink
don't do drugs so I know I have that
part of me and I know it's not a part of
me that I want to enable well in today's
episode we're going to talk about what
the stoics teach us about sobriety about
discipline about getting clean keeping
clean taking control of ourselves and
how we battle these very Timeless and
very human addictions and and what
stoicism can teach us on that daytoday
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Journey all right so walk me through how
stoicism help you gets over people think
that rehab people who haven't been I
think they have this preconceived notion
that that there's like this pill they
give you and suddenly it it it just all
goes away you know you to rehab you come
out and things are just fine and what I
realized it was for me is it's a deep
dive into why we make the choices we
make and why we're so self-destructive
yeah well after you start understanding
more about what is kind of triggering
you on this journey the answer to these
kind of insecurities is and it is a
structure and people it's funny as I've
read more as I get older and the more
things I've I've taught myself I've
realize that a lot of the spiritual
practices or a lot of books that I've
read are almost saying the same thing in
different ways sure like the this the
theme that I found most important to me
is that for lack of a better word
discipline is Destiny yeah um and that
has been my way out of the turbulence in
my life back back in the day yeah I
think like uh if anyone's ever been to
physical therapy or rehab from an injury
you get the sense that it's like oh I'm
going to be worked on like I'm going to
go and I'm going to get massages or this
kind of treatment or this medicine but
really they're like no here's the work
that you have to do right and it's the
same for I think the other forms of reab
you don't go there and then they're like
here are all the secrets to not drinking
or doing this or that anymore what
they're like is here are the things that
you have to do every single day of your
life like as they say they say it works
if you work right if you do that work
then you'll stay sober if you don't do
that work you won't and it's really
really hard work it's like the hardest
work cuz it's on yourself and it's
against habits or practices or
assumptions you've had your whole
life in recovery circles they have this
great acronym halt stands for Hungry
angry lonely or tired the point is when
you're feeling those things when you
haven't been sleeping enough when you
haven't been eating right when you're
isolated whatever it is you're less
likely to be able to be the strong
willed disciplined healthy safe smart
person that you want to be you know the
stoics weren't super humans they didn't
because they read a couple of these
texts never have cravings never slip
never mess up and in fact a big part of
stoicism is that kind of self-awareness
monitoring why you're feeling what
you're feeling stopping when you feel
that feeling and going why am I feeling
this way am I feeling frustrated upset
like I need to do this thing that I told
myself I'm trying to stop doing do I
need to do it or do I just feel that way
because of some other thing that I've
been neglecting or not taken care of
there's a great study I saw a couple
years ago that found that the majority
of arguments between spouses were rooted
in one or more of them being hungry
right so if you're mad at yourself for
falling off if you're mad at yourself
for not being the disciplined stoic and
complete and total self-command of
themselves stop and think about that
acronym ask yourself hey what's actually
going on with me and am i setting myself
up for Success generally but then
specifically in this moment what voice
inside me am I listening to what is the
context in which I'm considering this or
thinking this or reacting this senica
says that philosophy doesn't take away
natural feeling you know it doesn't
matter how many books you've read how
steeped in stoicism you are if you're
hungry angry lonely tired you're not
going to be your best self and thinking
about that is a really really important
part of making better decisions
over and over and over again more than
40 times in meditations he talks about
being of service to the common good
doing things for other people he says
our job is to put up with people or to
help them right pick one of those right
and I love this idea we should not just
give help but get help we should not
just get help but give help be of
service to as many people as possible to
be and to do as much good as possible in
so far as that is in our control and
this is why the idea of being of service
I think is so developed into the 12
steps into sobriety is that one of the
best ways to lighten our burdens is to