In this discord conversation, rank the 5 most annoying users: Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 21:58
i dont think they will improve
its just a slow rollout of the laready reported o1 and o1-ioi
MichMach — hoy a las 21:58
You can literally ask when it releases right, you're an insider lol
LDJ — hoy a las 21:58
o1-ioi is just a fine-tune experiment for specifically the international olympiad for informatics, isn't it?
and why don't you think they'll improve, do you think they already trained it as far as they're comfortable with? 
LDJ — hoy a las 21:59
bruh
no i'm not an insider
:reallymad:
drewknee (Lift4LEV) — hoy a las 21:59
lol I’ll tell you exactly how o1 will improve month after month. Every nvidia delivery OpenAI gets, they increase max reasoning tokens. Ez
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:00
yeah, the one they showed acing the programming questions
kanisan 'AGI 2026, ASI <1hourAGI — hoy a las 22:00
Don’t forget that actual banned users will have their tokens redistributed between the others
LDJ — hoy a las 22:00
it improves with actual training compute too though, the benefits aren't just coming from scaling up inference compute, its from improving the reasoning as they train it more with this technique
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:01
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:01
o1-io1
:cat_voices~1:
I can't use this names
I can't
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:01
literally an obfuscation technique :LOL~1:
LDJ — hoy a las 22:01
wtf is o1-io1
😭
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:01
You said it...
And it may exist, someday
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:02
its o1-ioi
smh
...
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:02
And it's terrible
3sphere [AGI 2035] — hoy a las 22:02
1 is i in leetspeak
oioi
easy to pronounce
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:02
:cat_despair:
3sphere [AGI 2035] — hoy a las 22:02
:ok~1:
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:02
LDJ — hoy a las 22:02
im talking about literally just further trained checkpoint, o1-io1 is simply a fine-tune specifically for informatics, that's not a generally better versino
3sphere [AGI 2035] — hoy a las 22:02
the 2nd i is longer
oiioi
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:03
I really wish OpenAI had just called it...I don't know...

GPT4-R (reasoning) or something like that
GPT4-R mini
Something...human readable
o1 mini
o1 preview
o1
O.o
What does the O mean?
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:03
openai model
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:03
It was omni on the GPT4
Then call it OpenAI 1 (The best closed model!)
Neon — hoy a las 22:04
Imagen
3sphere [AGI 2035] — hoy a las 22:04
GPT-o.O
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:04
Ok, but it sucks
Neon — hoy a las 22:04
True!
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:05
look
musk had X
tim apple got i
someone had to go for o
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:05
these o1-1o1 names make me think they placed too many cyberpunk-type games 
drewknee (Lift4LEV) — hoy a las 22:05
next openai model
MichMach — hoy a las 22:06
Anthropic's next model is just going to be named A
drewknee (Lift4LEV) — hoy a las 22:06
GPT-R32
MichMach — hoy a las 22:06
Command-R34 😏
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:07
Can't wait to use my prompt per month
LDJ, it's ok to repeat things, don't worry
:LOL~1:
LDJ — hoy a las 22:08
no I accidentally pasted it again
:WeirdDude:
sorry
LDJ — hoy a las 22:08
why would they lower the limit from what it is now
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:08
For O1?
It's a different model, right?
MichMach — hoy a las 22:08
Compute poor
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:08
So it may be lower
MichMach — hoy a las 22:08
Many users
LDJ — hoy a las 22:09
its currently 30 per week rate-limit, why would they lower that. I don't think OpenAI has actually ever lowered rate limits on a given model, only increased them over time
:e_think:
MichMach — hoy a las 22:09
Well there's a first for everything 😈
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:09
They did lower then...but ...
Thats O1 preview
Not o1
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:09
lol
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:09
Not sure why you would assume it's the same
LDJ — hoy a las 22:09
when did they lower the o1 rate-limit
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:09
they definitely have
LDJ — hoy a las 22:09
:eeeh:
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:09
you literally answer to the comment that explains it
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:10
they have lowered rate limits for GPT 4 many times
LDJ — hoy a las 22:10
in chat? huh
I guess i'll take your word for it
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:10
it used to be a 100 or some shit and then they lowered it to 20 or 25
then they increased it again but soon lowered it again
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:10
did you notice that o1-preview has lower limit than gpt4o?
now imagine a new model coming out -- o1
and it having even lower limits than o1-preview
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:11
I guess you are assuming o1 will replace preview, and you may be right, but we don't know
To me it doesn't make sense to consider that is the same model but with better training, because if they had that they would use that, not...preview
LDJ — hoy a las 22:11
They said themselves that o1 and o1 preview are same size, so we know that for sure :shrug2:
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:11
Oh
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:31
Imagen
bahaha
that was about the garbage tweet
Ilya (AGI 2012) — hoy a las 22:32
Well this does make sense thanks
Ilya (AGI 2012) — hoy a las 22:32
lol people read way too much into that
Very confidently too
LDJ — hoy a las 22:33
Also previous models like GPT-4-turbo-preview were released this way as well.
initial llama-3 model was also supposed to be named preview because they had a further trained version coming, but zuck didn't like the sound of the word "preview" so he told them to just name the full version "3.1" lmao
CM (AGI impossible before '27) — hoy a las 22:33
do you think that was a good move?
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:33
zucc was right
its better for version control and readability 
CM (AGI impossible before '27) — hoy a las 22:33
maybe for open source it is
at least, better than calling it preview
LDJ — hoy a las 22:33
idk im 50/50 on it, I feel like they should've named it preview so people knew from the start that there was defnitely a better version on the way
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:34
there is always a better version on the way
you improve an exsting model? add a minor version
you trained a new one? add a major version
Ilya (AGI 2012) — hoy a las 22:35
llama 3.1 was so amazing tho I feel like it should've been called 3.5 or smth cause larger number go up
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:35
eazy peazy
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:36
even better
call it 3.9 since there will be no greater version 3 available and version 4 is our next stop
:kurzweil:
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:36
actually, there is supposed to be another llama 3 version coming?
Ilya (AGI 2012) — hoy a las 22:37
truly a genius move
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:37
then just go for 3.10
in version control thats not a decimal point thats just a delimiter
we solved it guys
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:37
That will confuse AI tho
we need to improve it enought before getting there
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:38
unironically 9.11 comes way after 9.8
LDJ — hoy a las 22:38
yes, llama-3 with atleast vision coming within a few months according to zuck
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:38
honestly at this point just go for llama 4
:reedly~1:
Oog [AGI 2024] — hoy a las 22:39
maybe the ai is brittish so it thinks the dot should be a coma
LDJ — hoy a las 22:40
But based on this and also based on the training scaling laws they detailed in the system card, I think they plan on further training the model past this latest o1 main checkpoint too, so atleast 3 extra improvements.

O1 model coming within the next few weeks once this latest checkpoint is done safety tuning
New updated O1 model coming in a few months based off an even further trained version of the model then that.
new model called O1.5 or O2 coming within next ~9 months, main improvement coming from it being based on the GPT-4.5 base model instead of the much worse GPT-4o base model.

Some people might say: "well why doesn't openAI just wait for their completely trained version and release that" But then that would be a larger leap all at once and goes completely against their stance of doing iterative deployment over time to help society adjust to the changes.
Shire (AGI 2026 | ASI 2036-2040) — hoy a las 22:41
agree on 1 and 3
i dont see a reason for 2
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:41
LDJ — hoy a las 22:42
This tweet boosts my confidence of 2: 
Imagen
🍃 leaf — hoy a las 22:42
multimodal o1 when
CM (AGI impossible before '27) — hoy a las 22:42
:reedly~1: i bet no generation tho
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:42
why on earth would they release one model to only be released by another model a few weeks from now
that makes no sense
Neon — hoy a las 22:42
how big a reason do you think getting user generated CoT synth data is / was on making it public "early"
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:42
better to wait until the 'real' model is here so they can wow people more
CM (AGI impossible before '27) — hoy a las 22:42
don't care, open source anything is nice
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:42
they have never released one model only to replace it 3-4 weeks later
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:42
To give society time to get used to it
CM (AGI impossible before '27) — hoy a las 22:42
:Swag:
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:42
:reedly~1:
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:43
its pure cope
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:43
:Smirk:
LDJ — hoy a las 22:43
because thats literally iterative deployment, and OpenAI has repeatedly said how they want to pursue more iterative deployment, and they've done this in the past no several occasions such as GPT-4-turbo variants and GPT-4o variants of updating models within weeks of release.
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:43
Well, they actually replace models pretty often
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:43
not in such a short timespan
Neon — hoy a las 22:43
several or dozens of openai employees have hinted at a rapid release schedule for o1
if thats cope or not depends on them
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:43
He means just something like changing 01 2024-09 with o1 2024-12
but yeah, the whole "preview"
is stupid
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:44
not in such a short timespan
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:44
specially when the difference is so big
LDJ — hoy a las 22:44
They quite literally said to expect signficant improvements in a month.
Do with that information what you will.
:shrug2:
upto you how to interpret that
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:44
Ok... I'll believe it
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:44
OpenAI says a lot of shit that they think will attract investors
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:44
OpenAI hates humanity
LDJ — hoy a las 22:45
You're right, it's a massive grift as usual 👍
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:45
youre finally opening your eyes
still waiting for Her
CM (AGI impossible before '27) — hoy a las 22:45
:her:
HERmes
:Smirk:
🍃 leaf — hoy a las 22:46
Imagen
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:46
https://x.com/sama/status/1790075827666796666
Sam Altman (@sama) on X
her

Twitter•13/05/2024 19:45
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:46
Uhm... o1 model family isn't exactly ...model...?
Fat and Proud (FAP) — hoy a las 22:46
o1 is a grift
SrirachaMayoSauce — hoy a las 22:46
o1 scammed me
LDJ — hoy a las 22:47
"You're so delusional, they haven't even released sora or rolled out gpt-4o voice fully yet to all users, and you think for some reason they'll give us access to some improved reasoning model that is beating qualifying exams for international olympiads out of the blue? keep coping thats not happening"
:shrug2:
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:47
thats not my quote, but good job of you repeating that line for the 50th time
LDJ — hoy a las 22:47
Good job of claiming I said something for the 50th time when it's less than my 4th time
:peepoTalk:
SrirachaMayoSauce — hoy a las 22:47
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:48
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:48
good job inventing a quote and pretending its some sort of gotcha moment
LDJ — hoy a las 22:48
Fat and Proud (FAP) — hoy a las 22:48
LDJ here's my i told you so: we knew what strawberry was and i also told you it wouldn't be a CUA
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:48
still waiting for Her in the meantime
Aero AGI 2035. — hoy a las 22:48
LDJ, I'ma need you to shut up.
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:48
SrirachaMayoSauce — hoy a las 22:48
whoever hyped o1 will have their knees age by 20 years
Aero AGI 2035. — hoy a las 22:48
It's already been confirmed.
LDJ — hoy a las 22:48
ah like that time you said this literally less than an hour ago
Imagen
Aero AGI 2035. — hoy a las 22:48
We have AGI.
Imagen
It's over we made it.
Fat and Proud (FAP) — hoy a las 22:49
lol
why haven't they given interpreter to o1 i wonder
Aero AGI 2035. — hoy a las 22:49
Time to quit studies and go live off UBI shortly.
Fat and Proud (FAP) — hoy a las 22:49
fr
no point in doing anything
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:50
one is obvious sarcasm, the other is a (repeated) invented quote
╲⧹ Elvin ⧸╱ AGI 2032/09/21 — hoy a las 22:50
Valy (AGI 2030, LEV 2040) — hoy a las 22:50
i'm tired of people cosplaying the OpenAI marketing team
LDJ — hoy a las 22:50
If you don't think the other is obvious sarcasm, then that just goes to show that you believe people think you actually sound like that
I don't feel the need to point out how your quote is fake, as people can already tell I would never say something that ridiculous