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Chris DiPierro
Start here so so I don't know how much you've even seen.
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Chris DiPierro
Uh, actually, so you have to type truth.
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Chris DiPierro
But umm, so top level right?
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Chris DiPierro
So if we look over here, everything here is called a workspace.
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Chris DiPierro
So I'm looking at the idea Gen product workspace.
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Keith Low
Hmm.
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Chris DiPierro
That is the workspace for everything across the entire organization, right?
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Chris DiPierro
And really, this only matters at a strategy perspective.
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Chris DiPierro
It doesn't matter at an implementation perspective, but at a strategy perspective, there's these notions called objectives.
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Chris DiPierro
We'll talk about issues later, but for the purpose of the very top level, we only really care about objectives.
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Chris DiPierro
I'm going into this year, right?
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Chris DiPierro
Products got a few different objectives.
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Chris DiPierro
Some things around like employee, NPS and cost to serve and all that kind of stuff, but that's not really what we're talking about here.
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Chris DiPierro
We're really talking about primarily these three, whatever, I guess these four, but the first one is mostly arc, but as far as we're concerned primarily these three, which is launched version one of our cloud solutions and applications, which is obviously very high level and generic home, which hopefully is not a surprise to anybody, a personalized idea, an experience with four integrated products and then to a lesser extent in our world increase customer NPS by 10 points.
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Chris DiPierro
We don't tend to support that one quite as much as I would argue.
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Chris DiPierro
I think really most of our work is gonna fall in these two here, right Home.
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Keith Low
Umm.
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Chris DiPierro
Quite obviously, version one of the integrated cloud solutions means integrated EHS and quality like as a singular cloud.
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Chris DiPierro
So where that intersects us is primarily on the services that we would back this, right?
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Chris DiPierro
So that's in a nutshell.
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Chris DiPierro
That's the idea.
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Chris DiPierro
Didn't product at a strategy level, so the ASK then has been to turn that into for ever.
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Chris DiPierro
And for every pillar to turn that into strategy, your individual levels.
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Chris DiPierro
So what I've done is in platform it's I've created some of our own objectives here.
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Keith Low
Yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
And by the way, there's some leftover from when we were doing this, like last year, Keith, but that's fine.
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Chris DiPierro
We'll we'll work on that.
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Chris DiPierro
But the new stuff, basically anything that has FY25 on it and actually this one should have FY25 on it, it just doesn't umm basically are the things that everything that we're doing basically should be aligned to these objectives.
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Chris DiPierro
So we're gonna have single sign on support across our products content learning and at least one productivity tool.
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Chris DiPierro
That's the thing that we said we're gonna do.
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Chris DiPierro
We're gonna build the initial for now.
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Chris DiPierro
Call it myogen.
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Chris DiPierro
Whatever it ends up being called, that's basically Home are gonna continue to enhance our platform services to support strategic products.
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Chris DiPierro
And then we're gonna provide an easy path to AI value for our product.
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Chris DiPierro
So this last one is probably the most nebulous of these.
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Chris DiPierro
The others are hopefully a little bit more and tangible, but in any event, those are the things we're doing the the kind of leftover stuff will close out.
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Chris DiPierro
Home marketing will get closed out in the next couple of days.
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Chris DiPierro
We can talk about the other ones later, but the ones that really kind of kind of matter are these top four basically.
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Keith Low
Umm.
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Chris DiPierro
So from there, if you look under platform right and this is the thing that Keith has been setting up, we have these other workspaces that go with it, ignoring the do not use ones for a moment.
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Chris DiPierro
The other ones are intended to map directly to each of our what products essentially, so Ideagen Home is the stuff for, you know, my Gen shared services is kind of a catch all at the moment.
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Chris DiPierro
Obviously, AI licensing, notification language, file storage and then so and auth fine.
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Chris DiPierro
So under each of these, what we are trying to figure out is what initiatives we need to work on to support these kind of platform level objectives.
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Chris DiPierro
I'm gonna flip over now rather than go into each one I've built basically a dashboard that tries to put all of this to together.
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Chris DiPierro
Essentially, uh is very annoying at scrolling, but basically if you look at the leftmost thing, right?
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Chris DiPierro
So this is a product level, right?
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Chris DiPierro
Not not a platform, a product says, hey, home is a personalized idea.
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Chris DiPierro
Didn't experience with four integrated products, right?
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Chris DiPierro
And then we at a platform level have the objective of build initial myogen right and then underneath that basically what I've done is to start to create initiatives that are required to do that.
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Chris DiPierro
Basically, if we're gonna be successful in building the initial version of my generated and Home, whatever we call it, these are the initiatives that we kind of have to work on and these can exist in different products under our workspaces, most of them in this case exists under Ideagen Home.
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Chris DiPierro
But for instance, the notification inbox structure, the infrastructure that is, if you were to go look for it actually exists under notifications point being these initiatives under each of the product can support the overall objective that we're trying to do within those within every initiative.
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Chris DiPierro
And what we then need to do is figure out what our themes are.
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Chris DiPierro
The themes are basically collections of features and so a feature, I think Key probably know this for sure, but SueAnn a feature in AHA maps directly one to one with an epic in JIRA.
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Chris DiPierro
So a feature should only ever exist in a singular release, but a theme can span releases, right?
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Chris DiPierro
So it's possible that if I were to break it down here, you know, we're gonna probably be working on the main landing page for my Gen this entire year, right?
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Chris DiPierro
We'll probably build a version one of it.
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Chris DiPierro
We'll probably continue to refine it over time in every single release, so there's gonna be potentially many features that are the theme of the main page, right, and similar to that, the login journey is probably gonna be refined over time and so on and so forth. Right.
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Chris DiPierro
So sometimes in initiatives just going to see kind of a one to one mapping like maybe only one theme per initiative, but other times it probably makes sense to have multiple themes mapped to initiative, right?
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Chris DiPierro
So I've got some in this case some MVP stuff, but probably a better example is if I were to go look down in AI for instance, right?
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Chris DiPierro
So audit Atics is an initiative for us within audit analytics.
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Chris DiPierro
We're working on comment letters ICDC working on audio opinions and fees, and these are potentially across multiple releases and each of these in and of themselves potentially has multiple features, right?
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Chris DiPierro
Like if I were to expand icdc and say show feature, you know example partly that only has one some of the you should have multiple is what it what it comes down to?
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Chris DiPierro
Umm.
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Chris DiPierro
But basically like so there, right so comment letters has two features but the theme is to be able to produce comment letter automation for audit analytics, right?
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Chris DiPierro
That's kind of all rolls up, the kind of nice thing in is all of this stuff rolls up, right?
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Chris DiPierro
So a theme, the percentages that you see here basically is showing the progress of the features underneath it, but then the initiatives are showing the progress of the themes, your needs it and the objectives are showing the progress of the of the initiatives underneath it, right.
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Chris DiPierro
So the really nice thing about this is as stuff gets completed in JIRA cause there's a synchronization that occurs here and I realized a couple of things aren't there yet.
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Chris DiPierro
But ultimately, there's a synchronization that as things get done in JIRA, people mark a feature, an epic complete that rolls up into and then we come to just see the progress reported more or less automatically for us from there, right.
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Chris DiPierro
So when we have to do and reporting to either John or Joe or whoever might be asking us for where are we with everything, you can kind of use this.
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Chris DiPierro
The other bit is and I don't have any of these defined right now, but you can create dependencies between all of this stuff across workspaces.
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Chris DiPierro
So if ARC has a dependency on licensing or whatever, right?
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Chris DiPierro
We can show they can show a dependency in their world, or if we have a dependency on the flip side, we can show those dependencies as well.
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Chris DiPierro
I haven't really bothered creating dependencies between our own things.
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Chris DiPierro
Technically, we could do that.
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Chris DiPierro
We could say like something like the main landing page refinement is dependent on a main landing page MVP, but the utility of that's kind of low.
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Chris DiPierro
So I think the dependencies are a little bit more useful across pillars.
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Chris DiPierro
Essentially, umm, but what we really need to do is to the best of our ability, really fill this out.
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Chris DiPierro
Right.
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Chris DiPierro
Is is what it comes down to and what I tried to do is is take the business pitches that we gave with the scale pitches, but also obviously the one on home and try to more or less map everything that we said we would do to that to what you currently see here between so like this is the margin stuff.
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Chris DiPierro
But if I were to go look here, down into single sign on right, like all the integrations that we're intending to do with Zendesk and please review and opscentral and all that kind of Devonway and user sync and all of that stuff right is all kind of outlined in that and the enhancement to Platform uh services support, strategic products, right.
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Chris DiPierro
We're doing things in licensing to support ARC.
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Chris DiPierro
We're doing things in art Support storage needs.
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Chris DiPierro
We're doing phrase integration and language all that kind of stuff is tries to get mapped out there and then mostly in the bottom is all the AI stuff basically.
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Chris DiPierro
So I've taken a pass at all of this, but First off I feel like my time frames are probably not realistic on things at the moment, so that's one.
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Chris DiPierro
So I think that needs to happen, but then also what Andrew wants to know from us as kind of the next step is once all of this is mapped out, what we're really working on, we're expect to be working on probably the best way to say across each quarter what is the resourcing need look like in each quarter.
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Chris DiPierro
We've broadly said that our resourcing need is about 36 people or whatever it is that when you combined scale and stuff like that.
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Chris DiPierro
And I think that's gonna basically be approved.
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Chris DiPierro
But we also know that we don't have 36 people tomorrow, right?
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Chris DiPierro
We've got obviously limited scale from that, John, in the last call I had with him, JK and I were both on the same call on Friday, but basically said the we can probably push timeline a little bit, not just us, but everybody can probably push timeline a little bit because recognizing that all the resources are in place quite right just yet.
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Chris DiPierro
But given what we have and where we expect to be, what we need to start to map out is like what?
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Chris DiPierro
What does this really look like over the next year, year and a half?
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Chris DiPierro
Essentially, if we're pushing timeline a little and that's where I I gotta rely on on you guys for, you know is is really what it comes down to like what are we really doing over time?
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Chris DiPierro
Like it's probably not really true when we say build and provide SSO, doing migration, user management, session management and by the way I picked these up because I just looked like what's currently in JIRA to show the features right?
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Chris DiPierro
So it's like one thing on session management.
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Chris DiPierro
I think there's a couple things that infrastructure and that kind of stuff, so that's how I broke it down, but realistically probably not working on all those at the same time or probably not really delivering this at the end of July at this point because we haven't made an identity provider decision yet, right.
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Keith Low
Uh.
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Keith Low
Uh, Chris.
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Chris DiPierro
So what has to happen is we need to fill in things that are either missing and then which they're probably are things that are missing, and then we and then we really need to figure out like what this really looks like from a timeline and resourcing perspective. Yeah.
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Keith Low
Chris uh, voice for it.
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Chris DiPierro
No, not friend.
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Keith Low
For interjecting for this particular, the thing that you mentioned here, this will actually not from JIRA because, uh, the workspace that actually are synced to JIRA is only key clock notification.
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Keith Low
AI and home.
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Keith Low
Home basically on it is for we.
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Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
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Keith Low
We stop, I think, about two or three weeks back when I think Chris Ogden said he will do a new workflow.
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Keith Low
So I think Andrew Buglass told me he will resume once things stabilize.
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Chris DiPierro
That's fine.
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Keith Low
So all these that you see here, migration user management session mentioned those actually were input by by myself after uh.
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Keith Low
I just to highlight this.
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Keith Low
Ah, yes. Yep.
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Keith Low
Yeah. Umm.
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Chris DiPierro
Well, well, I created these themes, but the the features that are under underneath this maybe what you're saying is you created those, I suppose, right, which is like audit logging and monitoring to the after recovering business company, which is fine.
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Chris DiPierro
I'm less worried about it at the feature level right now.
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Keith Low
Umm.
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Chris DiPierro
We'll get the integrations going with your.
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Chris DiPierro
That's fine, because that's where the progress will ultimately come from.
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Chris DiPierro
But what we build and provide SSO is a pretty broad initiative.
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Chris DiPierro
So what we need to think about is regardless of whether it's synced to your or not right now, what do we really need to do to to do that?
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Chris DiPierro
How?
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Chris DiPierro
What's the timeline that's taking us to make it happen?
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Chris DiPierro
And then you know to end, you know, your help here.
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Chris DiPierro
Who?
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Chris DiPierro
Who's doing it?
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Chris DiPierro
Which teams are doing it right?
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Chris DiPierro
And if we say, for instance, in June that a whole team is occupied doing that, then clearly they can't be occupied doing something else at the same time as well, right?
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Keith Low
Yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
So it's a little bit of resource planning as far as things go from that perspective as well.
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Chris DiPierro
By the way, you can see this data and all sorts of different ways.
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Chris DiPierro
If you want to in a, it takes a has not amazing at reporting, but like you can slice and dice the data however you want, but I bring that up because one of the things that you can do is show development teams.
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Chris DiPierro
You can assign teams to things, so if you start to show on things on a timeline and like the same team appears like 5 different times in June or whatever or July, then we probably need to talk about how that's not gonna work. Right?
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Keith Low
Umm.
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Chris DiPierro
So, so so we can we can add that data to to this as well if we if we if it's useful to do that.
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Chris DiPierro
But for now, I think what we need to do is if we want to, we've broadly what we have committed to is Ideagen Home or committed to do is the the service enhancements.
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Chris DiPierro
What we've committed to is the AI side of thing.
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Chris DiPierro
We gotta map at at least this level.
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Chris DiPierro
What that looks like, and we'll worry about adding adding features to themes later, but for now we gotta get to to this level of commitment.
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Chris DiPierro
So we can figure out what that resourcing needs.
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Chris DiPierro
We kind of need to do this quickly really, because they're trying to.
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Chris DiPierro
The broad day is trying to make resourcing decisions on where teams are coming from and going to and all that kind of stuff in the fairly near future.
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Chris DiPierro
Umm, so yeah, that's my that's my pitch.
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Keith Low
Hmm.
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Chris DiPierro
Basically, by the way, this specifically this roadmap, you can if you go to roadmaps and then you go to.
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Chris DiPierro
To dashboards.
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Keith Low
Umm.
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Chris DiPierro
Sorry, roadmaps overview rather and then there's a folder called platform and then you should see Chris platform roadmap and that's the one that I was on there.
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Keith Low
OK.
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Chris DiPierro
Feel free to look at it as much as you want.
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Chris DiPierro
I'd prefer you not make changes to it if you want to make your own, make a copy of it or ever, and feel free to do that.
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Chris DiPierro
But it took me a while to get this.
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Chris DiPierro
How does not make this easy?
0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:53.650
Chris DiPierro
So to get like to show the right hierarchy of things, it's took a bit of a challenge on that, but I think I guess my ask is Keith you first but basically map in out exactly what we're doing when we're doing it to correspond to release.
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Keith Low
Yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
I see that you have some releases in a already like we did in home releases.
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Chris DiPierro
Seemed to all be there, but we didn't think that we have releases.
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Chris DiPierro
Well sorted in a lot of the other workspaces at the moment, so that probably needs to some a bit of attention as well.
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Chris DiPierro
By the way, like I said, since themes can span workspaces.
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Chris DiPierro
Excuse me.
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Chris DiPierro
Themes can span releases.
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Chris DiPierro
Unfortunately, one of the theme things theme asks for is what releases it tied to, and you can't pick multiple.
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Chris DiPierro
So Andrew suggested just using the farthest out release that would apply it to that theme.
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Chris DiPierro
So in other words, if you're going to work on a theme for the next three out of four releases, you would pick the third most release, even if you're going to release some subset of that ahead of time.
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Chris DiPierro
Yeah, that's fine.
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Chris DiPierro
That's fine, by convention anyway, I think.
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Chris DiPierro
But but yeah, what I I guess what I'd ask is take a look at what I've built here.
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Chris DiPierro
Fill the gaps essentially, and then, yeah, SueAnn gonna definitely ask you to help us.
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Chris DiPierro
Figuring out what this resourcing looks looks like to to make this all happen, and by the way, I guess for the two of you I'm mostly concerned with home and services.
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Chris DiPierro
I know AI is probably a little bit on the fringes for both of you.
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Chris DiPierro
At the moment I can work with like Amanda and JK to kind of sort that one out a little bit, but but and especially because it's kind of a down team at the moment.
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Chris DiPierro
So I think really looking for for your help and your your input on on home and on the on the service updates soon.
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Keith Low
OK.
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Keith Low
Uh, well, I'll do is I'll take a look, but I I will try not to message this.
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Keith Low
I think just in case, so I just maybe I screenshot.
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Chris DiPierro
Don't mess with my.
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Keith Low
Hmm.
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Chris DiPierro
Well, don't mess with my dashboard, but if you if you find things that are missing, don't don't hesitate to add things to the individual workspaces.
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Chris DiPierro
Add add initiatives if you need to add themes.
0:16:46.630 --> 0:16:51.400
Chris DiPierro
If you need to, I think it's probably more likely that they need to add themes, but not really now.
0:16:51.410 --> 0:16:53.40
Chris DiPierro
Adding an initiative, feel free to do that.
0:16:53.50 --> 0:16:55.240
Chris DiPierro
You absolutely empowered to do that, right?
0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:55.520
Keith Low
OK.
0:16:55.250 --> 0:16:59.90
Chris DiPierro
You own this key, for better or worse.
0:16:58.880 --> 0:16:59.100
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:16:59.830 --> 0:17:7.120
Chris DiPierro
I mean, we're all in it together, obviously, but from a this is what we said we're doing every day.
0:17:16.830 --> 0:17:17.140
Keith Low
Umm.
0:17:7.130 --> 0:17:21.200
Chris DiPierro
What you should you know, once we start working on this, basically every day we should be reviewing this and see where we are and are we on target you know with everything that we said that we're gonna do and if something starts to become off target, we got a flag that real quick, right?
0:17:21.210 --> 0:17:52.170
Chris DiPierro
So that we we can, you know, either resource it appropriately or if it's a delay inevitable delay then you know, figure out what dependent upon that so that we can manage expectations correctly but really and and you know you've heard me say this before but we really want to get this to be essentially a real time snapshot of everything that's going on in the platform and exactly how we're doing on our on our deliverables here like I said the good news is ultimately the data does get synced from the actual development work.
0:17:52.180 --> 0:17:56.990
Chris DiPierro
But to get that to a meaningful state, we've still got align all this kind of strategy ahead of it.
0:17:58.820 --> 0:17:59.110
Keith Low
Umm.
0:17:57.0 --> 0:17:59.690
Chris DiPierro
So, and that's what we're doing at this point.
0:17:59.730 --> 0:18:1.370
Chris DiPierro
And then update it over time too, right?
0:18:1.380 --> 0:18:5.10
Chris DiPierro
Like once we're 1/4 in, we start planning for the next quarter and so on and so forth.
0:18:5.200 --> 0:18:6.980
Chris DiPierro
There'll be an easier task at that point.
0:18:8.50 --> 0:18:11.380
Chris DiPierro
You know, everything should be rolling 12 months forward, right?
0:18:11.970 --> 0:18:12.140
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:18:21.190 --> 0:18:21.470
Keith Low
Umm.
0:18:11.390 --> 0:18:22.260
Chris DiPierro
So right now when we're talking 12 months, we're basically saying from now until April of next year, but you know two months from now, we should be looking to June of next year, right, you know and that kind of stuff.
0:18:22.410 --> 0:18:26.360
Chris DiPierro
So good news is that becomes easier over time if we get into the habit of doing this.
0:18:26.370 --> 0:18:29.790
Chris DiPierro
But Ben is is we gotta get a good baseline going first.
0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:35.370
Chris DiPierro
And by the way, I realize we're gonna be wrong on some of this, like clearly, we're not gonna get all the dates exactly right.
0:18:35.380 --> 0:18:35.710
Chris DiPierro
We're not.
0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:39.750
Chris DiPierro
You know, we're not gonna hit every date to the day that we did it.
0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.350
Chris DiPierro
We're gonna estimate things wrong.
0:18:41.360 --> 0:18:43.830
Chris DiPierro
Hopefully we get some things done faster than we think.
0:18:43.980 --> 0:18:46.650
Chris DiPierro
Clearly, we're probably get some stuff done slower than we think.
0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:48.270
Chris DiPierro
That's all OK.
0:18:48.420 --> 0:18:49.980
Chris DiPierro
But you know what?
0:18:49.990 --> 0:19:2.20
Chris DiPierro
This is designed to do is to give us that visibility into what we're actually where we actually are in all that, that and give our visibility give give that be able to report on that to everybody else is dependent upon us as well, right.
0:19:3.720 --> 0:19:4.0
Keith Low
OK.
0:19:2.30 --> 0:19:6.410
Chris DiPierro
So and and hopefully we get better overtime as the other bit too so.
0:19:8.230 --> 0:19:8.560
Keith Low
OK.
0:19:8.570 --> 0:19:8.890
Keith Low
Sure.
0:19:9.270 --> 0:19:10.70
Keith Low
I'll take a look at this.
0:19:12.180 --> 0:19:13.510
Chris DiPierro
To SueAnn questions.
0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.90
SueAnn See
Uh, I don't think I have access.
0:19:14.140 --> 0:19:16.860
SueAnn See
I don't think I have access to this page to start with.
0:19:17.810 --> 0:19:18.200
Chris DiPierro
OK.
0:19:18.530 --> 0:19:19.270
SueAnn See
I'm just looking.
0:19:18.570 --> 0:19:19.880
Chris DiPierro
Uh, do you have access?
0:19:19.890 --> 0:19:22.400
Chris DiPierro
Do you have access to aha at all or or?
0:19:21.940 --> 0:19:24.390
SueAnn See
Yes, I have, but I can't see your dashboard.
0:19:25.590 --> 0:19:25.820
Keith Low
Umm.
0:19:28.690 --> 0:19:28.850
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:19:25.780 --> 0:19:33.610
Chris DiPierro
I I think I might need to provide some permission to it which I can try to figure out to do.
0:19:34.260 --> 0:19:34.540
Keith Low
Uh.
0:19:34.50 --> 0:19:36.420
Chris DiPierro
I might have saved it like as a personal dashboard.
0:19:38.120 --> 0:19:39.570
Keith Low
Yeah, I think maybe let me try.
0:19:39.580 --> 0:19:43.750
Keith Low
This is at the dashboard level roadmap dashboard.
0:19:46.940 --> 0:19:47.730
Chris DiPierro
Uh, yeah.
0:19:47.780 --> 0:19:50.50
Chris DiPierro
Uh, I can potentially save it as.
0:19:49.890 --> 0:19:53.360
SueAnn See
So I can see platform AI road map.
0:19:56.390 --> 0:19:57.660
Keith Low
Chris, I can't see yours too.
0:19:58.620 --> 0:19:58.820
SueAnn See
Hmm.
0:19:58.210 --> 0:19:58.920
Keith Low
I can only see.
0:20:0.450 --> 0:20:1.990
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, let me.
0:20:2.50 --> 0:20:2.520
Chris DiPierro
Me.
0:20:10.740 --> 0:20:16.330
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, I don't know what this means exactly, but let's see what happens when we try it.
0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:22.220
Chris DiPierro
Uh, I level, not form view.
0:20:27.770 --> 0:20:31.180
Chris DiPierro
OK, let me tell me if you can.
0:20:31.190 --> 0:20:43.430
Chris DiPierro
So now if you go into roadmaps library overview, it's probably a better way of this, but if you go to Platform high level Platform view, does that show up for you?
0:20:49.380 --> 0:20:50.680
Keith Low
Yeah, I I can see.
0:20:44.340 --> 0:20:51.690
SueAnn See
Umm, high level Platform view young, yes.
0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:54.670
Chris DiPierro
And if and if you click on it, can you actually see it that that point too?
0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:56.190
Chris DiPierro
I guess the question OK.
0:20:56.220 --> 0:20:56.420
Keith Low
Yes.
0:20:56.180 --> 0:20:57.220
SueAnn See
Yes.
0:20:58.290 --> 0:20:58.980
Chris DiPierro
OK, cool.
0:20:59.50 --> 0:21:1.410
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, I guess I just had to share it appropriately, so.
0:21:5.870 --> 0:21:6.650
Keith Low
OK, I can see it.
0:21:8.130 --> 0:21:8.580
Chris DiPierro
Cool.
0:21:9.130 --> 0:21:13.20
Chris DiPierro
So aside from that, uh SueAnn questions all make sense.
0:21:13.30 --> 0:21:14.380
Chris DiPierro
I, like I said, I don't know.
0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:15.100
Chris DiPierro
You tell me.
0:21:15.110 --> 0:21:18.410
Chris DiPierro
I like how much do you poke around a hot to start with?
0:21:18.420 --> 0:21:21.300
Chris DiPierro
Like I you're probably more in the deer world, I'm guessing.
0:21:21.310 --> 0:21:26.290
Chris DiPierro
But umm, but is this stuff that you kind of done some stuff with before or?
0:21:27.390 --> 0:21:27.870
SueAnn See
Uh, yeah.
0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.200
SueAnn See
We use a hug before in my previous company.
0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:31.350
Chris DiPierro
And your previous coming.
0:21:31.360 --> 0:21:31.580
Chris DiPierro
OK.
0:21:31.590 --> 0:21:31.860
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:21:33.860 --> 0:21:34.80
SueAnn See
Yep.
0:21:31.870 --> 0:21:35.400
Chris DiPierro
So you got experience here, but does the rest of it, you know what?
0:21:35.410 --> 0:21:37.980
Chris DiPierro
I'm kind of asking for make make sense.
0:21:37.990 --> 0:21:39.570
Chris DiPierro
You know what we need?
0:21:39.580 --> 0:21:40.660
Chris DiPierro
What we kind of need to happen?
0:21:44.540 --> 0:21:44.660
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:21:42.710 --> 0:21:52.640
SueAnn See
Umm yes I I guess my first ohh response to this will be that you have UI research on prototypes right?
0:21:52.650 --> 0:21:56.560
SueAnn See
But what about the research for the rest of the items?
0:21:56.370 --> 0:21:56.760
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:21:56.770 --> 0:21:58.800
Chris DiPierro
And I'm and I'm open to doing that too.
0:21:58.810 --> 0:21:59.140
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:21:59.610 --> 0:22:0.120
Chris DiPierro
So.
0:22:0.190 --> 0:22:9.230
Chris DiPierro
So yeah, if we want to talk a couple of specific things and that's probably worth doing, yeah, we can absolutely add some more UI research in places and other research and so on and so forth.
0:22:9.520 --> 0:22:21.90
Chris DiPierro
And one of the reasons I wanted to highlight you, I research specifically for my Gen is I think we need to put some pressure on the UX team.
0:22:21.860 --> 0:22:27.710
Chris DiPierro
So like they've in concept, they've agreed to do user research with slash for us.
0:22:28.360 --> 0:22:34.730
Chris DiPierro
For what we're calling Ideagen Home, in practice, I haven't seen them advance that ball.
0:22:34.770 --> 0:22:35.790
Chris DiPierro
Like, really at all.
0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:52.800
Chris DiPierro
So I'm worried because what we have right now essentially is that, uh, that Figma prototype basically, but it hasn't really been socialized with anybody outside of a, you know some people in, in idea Gen essentially umm, I don't think that's a great way to build a UI.
0:22:53.150 --> 0:22:56.800
Chris DiPierro
So I think we need to absolutely put that in front of folks.
0:23:19.570 --> 0:23:19.770
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:22:57.250 --> 0:23:27.250
Chris DiPierro
I think we need to drive that basically and and specifically Keith, I think you need to drive that because like I think we need to be but and by the way I'm I'm aware that they have a small team and I'm sure they get demand from like everybody essentially, but I if we're talking about this being one of the most strategic things that we're doing in idea Gen, right, and it is just to be clear, unlike John and John Molamphy, he's like combined road map, we are like #5 out of 20 on the strategic thing, so.
0:23:27.260 --> 0:23:28.850
Chris DiPierro
That's pretty high, right?
0:23:28.900 --> 0:23:34.220
Chris DiPierro
So if we if we say we need that and then hopefully we should be able to get some of their time.
0:23:34.230 --> 0:23:37.440
Chris DiPierro
But I think you gotta follow up with, well, Megan, to start with.
0:23:37.450 --> 0:23:40.70
Chris DiPierro
But she's probably gonna defer you to their user research person.
0:23:40.80 --> 0:23:41.470
Chris DiPierro
And so on and so forth, which is fine.
0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:43.270
Chris DiPierro
But then we got to go build a plan.
0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:47.470
Chris DiPierro
I think we got to be on that with communicating to that person nearly daily.
0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:48.30
Chris DiPierro
It's like, great.
0:23:48.40 --> 0:23:48.690
Chris DiPierro
What's the plan?
0:23:48.700 --> 0:23:49.930
Chris DiPierro
What are we putting in front of people?
0:23:49.940 --> 0:23:50.260
Chris DiPierro
What's the?
0:23:50.450 --> 0:23:51.560
Chris DiPierro
What experiments are we running?
0:23:51.570 --> 0:23:53.520
Chris DiPierro
What refinement are we doing, you know?
0:24:4.830 --> 0:24:5.50
Keith Low
Umm.
0:23:53.590 --> 0:24:14.360
Chris DiPierro
And and sorry Keith, I know I'm gonna probably put a lot on you over the next couple months here, but really look to you to be that person to push all of this forward, because if we don't, right, if we just sit back and we get response from like the UX team and say, yeah, yeah, we'll help you out with user research in the next couple of weeks and then they don't do it and then we're delayed because of that.
0:24:14.370 --> 0:24:18.660
Chris DiPierro
It's not gonna be them who get blamed for not delivering the overall thing.
0:24:18.670 --> 0:24:19.820
Chris DiPierro
It's going to be us, right?
0:24:19.830 --> 0:24:23.960
Chris DiPierro
So we need to be our own advocates.
0:24:24.910 --> 0:24:25.130
Keith Low
Umm.
0:24:23.970 --> 0:24:35.490
Chris DiPierro
Essentially, we need to just anytime we have a dependency like that you know we need to push up and and that goes into the conversation and just kind of getting before we started talking with opscentral about Duraid as well.
0:24:35.500 --> 0:24:37.790
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, Duraid is also very in demand.
0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:42.810
Chris DiPierro
Busy guy in certain places, his input is absolutely required.
0:24:43.360 --> 0:24:44.70
Chris DiPierro
Valuable.
0:24:44.80 --> 0:24:46.410
Chris DiPierro
We can't live without it and other places.
0:24:46.420 --> 0:24:49.640
Chris DiPierro
I think we need to be willing to make.
0:24:51.670 --> 0:25:12.160
Chris DiPierro
Be a little bit more forward with what we think we need to do and then get him to review that rather than asking him to design it basically right, we we've got smart people, you know our principal engineers are in particular really smart and you know, I've seen nothing but good things come out of then I'm sure we have other people in other roles that are probably just as smart as well.
0:25:13.300 --> 0:25:15.370
Chris DiPierro
You know, I've got a technical background.
0:25:15.380 --> 0:25:17.930
Chris DiPierro
SueAnn, you've got a bit of a technical background I believe.
0:25:17.990 --> 0:25:27.350
Chris DiPierro
So you know, I'm not saying that we designed the architecture from the from scratch by any means, but the same token, we can't be just an underage and like waiting for him to be available.
0:25:27.360 --> 0:25:27.560
Keith Low
Umm.
0:25:27.360 --> 0:25:28.590
Chris DiPierro
And then not be available.
0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.950
Chris DiPierro
And like you know the same thing.
0:25:32.40 --> 0:25:41.240
Chris DiPierro
I'd much rather go to him and say here's what we've designed, you know, pick holes in it and then we can fix those holes rather than we need X.
0:25:43.340 --> 0:25:43.600
Keith Low
Umm.
0:25:41.250 --> 0:25:44.750
Chris DiPierro
Design it for us so there's some exceptions.
0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:51.700
Chris DiPierro
Don't get me wrong, I realize specifically with things like user sync and authentication, it's hard to not have him in from the start because he's gotta be happy with it.
0:25:51.710 --> 0:25:53.460
Chris DiPierro
Or or nobody's gonna be happy.
0:25:53.630 --> 0:26:4.160
Chris DiPierro
But as we get into some of the other pieces of what we need to do, especially for Ideagen Home, I think we can probably make some reasonable assumptions and then present them from there.
0:26:4.250 --> 0:26:12.990
Chris DiPierro
And also you know, I know JK has got some reservations around this, but you know Tato has offered to help, right?
0:26:13.540 --> 0:26:13.720
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:26:13.110 --> 0:26:14.620
Chris DiPierro
Like, I get that he's.
0:26:14.630 --> 0:26:18.590
Chris DiPierro
I get that he's busy with collaboration and and maybe it will struggle to actually get his time.
0:26:18.900 --> 0:26:21.750
Chris DiPierro
But you know, when I when I've spoken to him, he said.
0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:23.270
Chris DiPierro
I really want to help with the platform.
0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:24.530
Chris DiPierro
I really wanted to do it.
0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:33.670
Chris DiPierro
You know, if we got very specific architecture need and and I know we're trying to not hurt Duraid feelings a little bit too by saying, hey, we're gonna go to this other person because I know Duraid wants to stay involved.
0:26:33.790 --> 0:26:37.670
Chris DiPierro
Fine, but I don't think we should be turning away help either.
0:26:38.220 --> 0:26:38.400
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:42.930
Chris DiPierro
You know, if we if this is a place where we have a need so.
0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:43.880
Keith Low
Umm.
0:26:46.250 --> 0:26:46.520
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:26:51.350 --> 0:26:52.60
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, right.
0:26:46.530 --> 0:26:52.420
Keith Low
If if we can get tattoos, but that would be easier because uh, he's actually in the same office, same time zone, yeah.
0:26:52.70 --> 0:26:54.420
Chris DiPierro
Even in an office with you in the same time zone.
0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:54.580
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:26:54.430 --> 0:26:57.860
Chris DiPierro
And I'm sure you know, he's new, right?
0:26:57.870 --> 0:27:1.780
Chris DiPierro
So I'm sure he's willing to looking to make like an impression, like a good impression.
0:27:2.460 --> 0:27:2.620
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:27:1.790 --> 0:27:2.820
Chris DiPierro
Everybody too.
0:27:2.910 --> 0:27:5.210
Chris DiPierro
So, you know, I don't wanna say take advantage of that case.
0:27:5.220 --> 0:27:9.50
Chris DiPierro
That sounds wrong, but like, use that enthusiasm I guess is a better way to say it right?
0:27:8.830 --> 0:27:9.270
Keith Low
Umm.
0:27:9.60 --> 0:27:13.700
Chris DiPierro
Like if he's enthusiastic to help out, wants to be involved and we have me.
0:27:13.710 --> 0:27:16.230
Chris DiPierro
Let's take let's make use of that.
0:27:17.140 --> 0:27:17.410
Keith Low
OK.
0:27:20.170 --> 0:27:20.440
SueAnn See
Yeah.
0:27:20.450 --> 0:27:24.520
SueAnn See
So just another comment is something I learned from my previous company as well.
0:27:28.810 --> 0:27:29.30
Chris DiPierro
Yep.
0:27:24.530 --> 0:27:36.640
SueAnn See
How we plan our roadmaps, we go on a quarterly basis and we always allow ourselves three months before to do the discovery and then the next three months we will implement it.
0:27:36.830 --> 0:27:47.600
SueAnn See
Of course, we probably don't have luxury of time here, but maybe we can try to create some overlaps, as in do discovery then implementation discovery implementation, something like that.
0:27:47.50 --> 0:27:47.790
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:48.530
Chris DiPierro
No, that's fair.
0:27:48.540 --> 0:27:53.950
Chris DiPierro
And and I think you're correct, we probably don't have that luxury of time, at least not to be quite that orderly about it.
0:27:54.100 --> 0:28:7.10
Chris DiPierro
But I think the place where we do have a little bit of flexibility is nobody's really expecting a public release of idea Gen home three months from now, right?
0:28:7.100 --> 0:28:17.210
Chris DiPierro
But if three months from now we had the start of some integrate some, excuse me SSO and the start of some UI right, not enough to that you would ever give it to a customer.
0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:31.90
Chris DiPierro
That's fine, but we still wanted to call that like a release and we wanna call that like an internal release that only, you know, a select group, you know, call it like 50 people an idea Gen every really get to see her or play around with.
0:28:31.300 --> 0:28:32.610
Chris DiPierro
That's probably OK, right?
0:28:32.620 --> 0:28:40.730
Chris DiPierro
Because we can tell a good story around that to John and anybody else who's interested in saying, well, look, yeah, we've got some of the discovery done.
0:28:40.740 --> 0:28:45.750
Chris DiPierro
We've got the infrastructure started, we've got an actual clickable thing that you can work on.
0:28:45.980 --> 0:28:53.100
Chris DiPierro
No, it's not customary shippable, but now we're building upon that over the next couple months to do that.
0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:58.40
Chris DiPierro
I think we want it to be much more essentially evolutionary than that right?
0:28:58.50 --> 0:28:59.200
Chris DiPierro
Like it's it's OK.
0:28:59.210 --> 0:29:4.440
Chris DiPierro
Probably that right now on the idea Gen home workspace that says we're gonna do basically four releases.
0:29:4.600 --> 0:29:15.360
Chris DiPierro
I know it says actually prerelease and then four releases, but I think if we talked about how we would like to do this as a company as a whole, we still wanna try to get bought into the notion that we're releasing every couple of sprints, right?
0:29:15.430 --> 0:29:24.560
Chris DiPierro
But when we say that, don't think that, especially for something brand new like this, we really mean necessarily that the customer has to see every single increment of that right.
0:29:24.630 --> 0:29:41.850
Chris DiPierro
But if we could start getting to that point where we could start putting stuff out internally, you know and and testing it, you know and and by testing, I don't mean like truly official QA but like start to give it to other kind of tertiary stakeholders that kind of stuff.
0:29:41.890 --> 0:29:44.530
Chris DiPierro
I think that inspire a lot of confidence that we're going the right way.
0:29:44.580 --> 0:29:47.870
Chris DiPierro
And by the way, probably in the end buy us more time, right?
0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:52.50
Chris DiPierro
Like if people see that right and there's incremental progress over time.
0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.910
Chris DiPierro
Umm, they're much more likely somebody to say ohh it.
0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:59.530
Chris DiPierro
You know, it slipped a month or two versus you've seen nothing.
0:30:1.30 --> 0:30:1.210
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:29:59.710 --> 0:30:5.270
Chris DiPierro
And then now we're saying, you know, it's gonna be like a Big Bang release of everything all at once like that.
0:30:5.920 --> 0:30:12.660
Chris DiPierro
That doesn't build credibility, but there you do have credibility if you start to just have this incremental build up a progress on top of that.
0:30:12.700 --> 0:30:38.190
Chris DiPierro
So anyway, Susan, all that's a long way of saying is I think we can do some discovery ahead, but some of that discovery maybe kind of weaves its way into like very MVP level UI is to start with and then it gets refined over over time and then you know as we plan the next year out, we might have a little bit of luxury of more time to do discoveries, although hopefully by that point we're just kind of rolling and everything to go and kind of well.
0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.410
Chris DiPierro
But we can see what things look like from there.
0:30:41.130 --> 0:30:41.450
Keith Low
Umm.
0:30:44.590 --> 0:30:49.640
Chris DiPierro
And by the way, I I don't want this to be a road map that we miss, like I don't.
0:30:49.710 --> 0:30:52.60
Chris DiPierro
Don't just go on here and make everything aspirational.
0:30:52.70 --> 0:30:56.700
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, we're gonna deliver everything in June and July and talking to be great and roses.
0:30:56.710 --> 0:31:0.400
Chris DiPierro
No, we know we know there are things that are already are slowing us down.
0:31:0.410 --> 0:31:3.900
Chris DiPierro
We know that not picking an IDP is already slowing us down.
0:31:4.30 --> 0:31:5.220
Chris DiPierro
It's fine, right?
0:31:5.410 --> 0:31:9.80
Chris DiPierro
Let's be absolutely realistic about where where we are.
0:31:9.90 --> 0:31:14.450
Chris DiPierro
You can still put things down for like when we want to release them, but if we need to mark them at risk already, that's fine.
0:31:14.780 --> 0:31:24.650
Chris DiPierro
I much rather talk to John, you know, in the next Platform review and say hey, look, when we presented the strategic pitch, we said we'd have this done by July.
0:31:24.660 --> 0:31:28.550
Chris DiPierro
But look, nobody's been able to make a decision on IDP because of Fed ramp, right?
0:31:28.660 --> 0:31:33.170
Chris DiPierro
Therefore, we know that slip into August or September or whatever it might be.
0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:42.60
Chris DiPierro
So the things that are inherently dependent upon that are gonna step, I'd rather have that conversation up front legitimate now than I would.
0:31:42.100 --> 0:31:46.540
Chris DiPierro
Then you get to, yeah, two weeks before it's supposed to be released.
0:31:46.550 --> 0:31:48.20
Chris DiPierro
And then we're telling him there's a problem, right?
0:31:48.660 --> 0:31:48.780
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:31:48.30 --> 0:31:49.260
Chris DiPierro
We don't want to get get there so.
0:31:53.530 --> 0:31:53.970
Chris DiPierro
Right.
0:31:54.290 --> 0:31:55.300
Chris DiPierro
That's my pitch.
0:31:58.310 --> 0:31:58.530
Keith Low
Umm.
0:31:55.510 --> 0:31:58.580
Chris DiPierro
And look forward to you both helping out quite a lot on this.
0:31:58.630 --> 0:32:9.390
Chris DiPierro
And like I said, don't be afraid to make changes to to think don't change my view, but don't feel be afraid to make changes to the initiatives and the themes and all that kind of stuff.
0:32:9.460 --> 0:32:22.880
Chris DiPierro
If you got questions on, we obviously have the teams chat, but just tag me in stuff if you have a stream of consciousness while I'm asleep and you guys go and make a bunch of changes and you're like, here is 15 things I want Chris to way in on, feel free to tag me with that.
0:32:22.890 --> 0:32:24.440
Chris DiPierro
Like I have no no issue with that.
0:32:34.40 --> 0:32:34.220
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:32:24.740 --> 0:32:37.730
Chris DiPierro
I much rather we be proactive and and do that and then refine things, then sit on our hands and and not you have things kind of come to come together for fear of making a mistake or something like that so.
0:32:38.350 --> 0:32:38.600
Keith Low
Umm.
0:32:40.650 --> 0:32:40.890
Keith Low
OK.
0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:41.270
Chris DiPierro
Awesome.
0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:42.310
Chris DiPierro
I know we got the right people.
0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:46.270
Chris DiPierro
I know you're both good at this, so let let's just let's make it make it happen.
0:32:46.0 --> 0:32:47.200
Keith Low
Yeah, let's make it happen.
0:32:46.380 --> 0:32:48.190
Chris DiPierro
You know, you know, I've said this before.
0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:57.510
Chris DiPierro
I've said this before, I think we're in for a very exciting year, especially if we do it all right, unfortunately, probably exciting year too if we do it wrong, but let's avoid that paths.
0:32:58.650 --> 0:32:59.570
Chris DiPierro
But but.
0:32:58.740 --> 0:33:0.70
SueAnn See
Yeah, I I tell JK.
0:33:0.80 --> 0:33:0.360
SueAnn See
Yeah.
0:33:0.500 --> 0:33:1.820
SueAnn See
Does zero hero you know?
0:33:2.400 --> 0:33:3.50
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:33:3.100 --> 0:33:4.480
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, but, but.
0:33:6.560 --> 0:33:10.830
Chris DiPierro
You know and and and please help continue to take this message to the team and stuff like that.
0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:16.490
Chris DiPierro
I think some of the stuff that we're doing is the most interesting stuff in the company, or at least intend to do is the most interesting stuff in the company.
0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:24.940
Chris DiPierro
I know people have left to do some stuff on Hulu or whatever and so on, but their loss I think we should basically be saying look at all this.
0:33:25.80 --> 0:33:30.850
Chris DiPierro
And by the way, if you can point them to a board like this and said this is the stuff we're doing, you're helping us do this over the next year.
0:33:31.20 --> 0:33:44.230
Chris DiPierro
I think that really helps get that message across these absolutely opportunity within our teams to to be really front and Center for for the company and and and hopefully be recognized very well for that as well soon.
0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:45.20
Keith Low
Umm.
0:33:48.290 --> 0:33:49.320
Chris DiPierro
Alright, awesome.
0:33:49.250 --> 0:33:49.470
Keith Low
OK.
0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.980
Chris DiPierro
I'll talk to you guys again tomorrow.
0:33:51.990 --> 0:33:53.700
Chris DiPierro
I think I think there's some on the calendar for that.
0:33:53.710 --> 0:33:54.880
Chris DiPierro
And then certainly the day after.
0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:57.780
Keith Low
Yeah, sure.
0:33:54.890 --> 0:33:58.620
Chris DiPierro
But like I said, hit me up in teams or whatever, and we'll go from there.
0:33:58.960 --> 0:33:59.80
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:0.80
Chris DiPierro
Thank you very much.
0:34:0.150 --> 0:34:0.360
Keith Low
OK.
0:34:0.490 --> 0:34:0.940
SueAnn See
OK.
0:34:0.370 --> 0:34:1.230
Keith Low
Everything's OK.
0:34:1.240 --> 0:34:1.730
Keith Low
Goodnight.
0:34:1.10 --> 0:34:1.760
SueAnn See
Thank you. Bye.
0:34:0.90 --> 0:34:2.250
Chris DiPierro
Appreciate it, right.
0:34:1.790 --> 0:34:2.280
Keith Low
OK.
0:34:2.290 --> 0:34:2.460
Keith Low
Bye bye.


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