Given the transcription of the guest speaker session talking about passion, work and meaning: "
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Milholland yeah, Milholland is here for a reason.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
I'm not gonna tell you everything because a part of your job is to assess our background and to find information.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
So means me.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Holland is currently in Australia, so Guy is lucky us because there is, you know, time zone, different time zone.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
So she's, she's here for us.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
She has an expert with a a very relevant and extended international experience in different region, Australia, France.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
If I'm right, correct me if I'm wrong and Singapore and so many other countries in Vietnam too.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Eight countries.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
She eight countries?
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yes, I cannot list them and it will be your job to find out guys.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
The fields of expertise, we can say that stay by steps you move to, let's say, leadership, emotional intelligence and it's more than that, in fact, right.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yep.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
It's the psychological side of happiness at work, et cetera, and so many other questions related to gender two gender at work.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Uh and uh.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Balancing workplace and personal life.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
So guys, it's wide.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
I'm sorry.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Me, I cannot describe everything because you have so many.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
So many skills in so many fields.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
So guys, your job is to find out and you we discuss about this, you know where to find information about the guest speakers.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
And now I'm not gonna talk anymore.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
I will be just the assistant of Miss Me Holland for presentation please.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Well, first, Christopher uh, thank you very much for the welcome and I'm super happy you know, to be to be almost seeing you.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I can only see names on the side, but I can't see your your faces, but it's super great.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You're not to be almost back to Vietnam.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So as Christopher said, I'm calling in from from Australia.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Uh, so I went between Vietnam and and and that's why.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
But normally, mostly in Vietnam, much prefer to be in Vietnam.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You can see this is winter clothes here.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
It's super cold this winter in Australia here, so believe me it's cold.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So when you see the on this slide that that Christopher is going to help me today, really super thanks.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
When you see this slide in front of you on your screen, so when you see the wordings of the constructing happiness and passion, I want you to put on the on the chat.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
How does it feel?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What is one word which comes to mind when you see the word happiness and the word passion?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What comes to your heart?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What's come to your mind?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So I don't know if you can you you can see the chat because I can't see the chat.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah, it's a.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Umm but.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
It's a problem.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
I can see it for you.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
I can see it for you, yeah.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yeah.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So I I really want you just to think when you see the word happiness and passion and you know which unit Christopher is doing for you, what comes to mind and no judging you know really comes to mind.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What what happens in your heart?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What's happening in your head?
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Christopher Denis Delacour
OK. Me.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What are the words that you thinking of?
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Christopher Denis Delacour
OK.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Sean say loves with.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, we have love.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, that's great.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What more what comes to mind when you see?
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Christopher Denis Delacour
What more guys go ahead?
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Uh, free.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Free freedom.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yes, yes, I want at least few more.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
I show show, say doing things I like.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Me.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, yes, that is exactly that.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Say me say uh self understanding.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, well, maybe you don't need me today.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Actually, because you got it, OK.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
And and and and VIN say health Mr he say hope have hope.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
OK OK.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So thank you very much for jumping in.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So this is exactly why.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Why?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I want you to to feel the session is not just, you know, a course, a session that I'm taking one hour.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
If you live here and then you said you forget, it's not about that.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What I really want with Christoph is for you to come out of this one hour session and think about you online.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
How can you build your happiness in your life, especially when you're going to work and how we can bring and find passion into your work?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so this is what what we're doing.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so let's move now to to the next slide and and that's me.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so this is, uh, a photo of me.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
A few years ago that when I was interviewed for at yesterday and that was an interview about why, why I came back to Vietnam, it's actually not back because I was born in France and and it was really an interview about, you know, asking but you make more money in Australia or in France when New Zealand.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Why are you coming to Vietnam?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
It's actually you make less money and then why are my answer is because well, I'm coming here because I have a passion.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I want to understand myself.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I want to stand MyHeritage.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I want to pass on my my skills, my passion that I have learned all my experiences that I got, you know, over 30 years of experience, you know, in all my, my countries are working in China and Japan and Cambodia and always places.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
And why is important?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Because even if it was about finding the passion and sharing the passion, it's also showing that my qualifications are important and you it's important for you.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You are student.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You have to have qualifications because it helps you to to uh to grow your your intellectual, you know, awareness.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know, you thinking that's why we're doing what we're doing at at UNI, but for me it was not just about the qualifications and if you really see UM in the the slide, I say I have written here.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I'm also a word kindness ambassador, so I didn't make money out of it.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, I'll make money after all the qualifications, but I don't make money off word, kindness, Ambassador, because this is one of the passion that I'm I want to bring when you bring compassion when you bring kindness into work, you actually connect with people.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So it's it's really about thinking globally.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Holistically, you have to have your, your, your masters.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I'm sorry.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You, you're bachelor and a push.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know for you because I was an ex unit student as well and ex unilateral as well.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Go for any studies that you want.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, but don't stop.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So really push your intellect, but at the same time find what makes your heart sing and that is why it is important.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so let's move now to to the next slide.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
And and then, uh, I think that's the question I'm asking you.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So who has seen that movie with Johnny Depp?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What if we think of him?
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
But yes, yes, yes.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so I'm OK.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
No, no, you're right.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
You're right. Yeah.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So a few people have seen it.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah. Umm.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So no comment about you know, the character of of the actor.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, Johnny Depp.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
It's a good actor and then in life is a bit different.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Umm, but at least in Wonderland is actually a very good and way to invite you to think about what we are going to talk about today and why I want you to think about Alice is I don't want you to be like Alice, OK?
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So if you know the movie, you might remember and I'm giving you some hints.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So let's move down to the next slide.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So remember, arise the movie and this is it.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Alice, you at least she forgets how important it is to have a sense of direction into her life.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so if you read what is on the bottom.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
No text in on this slide, so you know at least say would you tell me please which way I ought to go from here?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
And then the cat answer that depends a good deal on where you want to get to Alice respond.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I don't much care where and then the fat cat respond.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Then it doesn't much matter which way you go.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so this is really about helping you to remember.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Umm.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
If you don't know your sense of direction, you will whatever you go wherever you want to do it doesn't matter.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
But for me, I think it's important for you to have that sense of compass.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So then you know where you're going.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You're not just being on the ocean and not going where you and not the way where you're going.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So it's really don't be like Alice.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So let's move that to to the next slide.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
And if anyone wants to to interrupt me, I have no issue at all, huh?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So I'm from Australia.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
We are very egalitarian.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah, it's true.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
It's true, it's true, true.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
We can stop the, you know, people, all people.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
We don't care, you know?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
And it doesn't matter.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
It's true, yeah.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So you can interrupt me.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
It's no issue whatsoever.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so you had received this in your in your email from from, from Christoph and I like you to have a look at this page and look at any direction and find the 1st 5 words that you can really cross.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You can see that side that side, that side, whatever side fun 5 words, the 1st 5 words that you can see and just you know take a pen and just and just write down you 5 words.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yeah.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
We just had just a few minutes there.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
It could panel write it on the document.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
If you are on your screen guys, you have a few minutes to find.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Let's say the first five words you see in this are you say Marquez in English.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Oh my God, my English is terrible.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I don't know.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
We both French so.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
This semester we are not good.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
We are not good.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
OK, so try to find the 1st 5 words.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Scramble words scrum the words.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
I. Yeah.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
The guys you have 5 minutes.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
You check you have a document in the chat, but the on the screen it it's enough and then you can draw lines and tell us the 1st 5 words you can see do it guys visa visa purpose of course.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
OK.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Of course we giving the hints there.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
So yeah, we're not giving from nothing, so.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
And of course, always words are meaningful.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yes.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So it's just for you to remember, you know, So what have you learned from this session?
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah, at least.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Cross board?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Well, I learned about Alice and then I learned about, you know, weddings which are actually very important.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
We start to have answers.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Do you want me to tell you?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yeah, go ahead.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Go for it.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
OK, OK. Miss me.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Minwin change, passion options. Mission.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Love Mr Zlan change meaning passion drive and wow, Mr Sang Passion mission card.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Meaning hope, miss.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
When Tran Passion drive, meaning love.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Whoa, miss too pop.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Love mission?
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Spark change Miss NI.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah, Luong change meaning hop park drives.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Mr car. Mission hop.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Wow.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Change Park Miss Hung Nguyen mean Angel or cute mission.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Word talk, Mr Sean Angel, meaning wonders, mission CEO.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Miss knee word.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Love, Spock, passion and hope.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
And ohh yeah he's missed.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Create spark word mission, word, love.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Phung bin.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Wait for it.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Few fungi.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Right.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Passion.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Love mission waters, meaning Mr.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Bean Hope Ward mission passion meaning.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Thank you guys for posting so much.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Now I will really gold change, passion mission, love for Mr he miss he Nguyen passion grow.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Hop mission.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Whoa.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Mr Chung.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Drive option word Son Hope Miss family strong love option meaning and life.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
OK.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Ohh.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Thank you guys.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
That's wonderful.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
And it's funny because I didn't see the word Angel, but uh, somebody spotted it.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I love it.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Miss whom?
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah, miss.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Whom find it.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So uh, I just want to see, you know, I can see two faces here.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I'm super happy to have more faces that makes me think that, you know, I'm not speaking to a computer, so that's great.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
And I don't feel too close, even if I'm not too 5.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
And if I'm from Australia, so let's move now to to the next slide and then you can see you know the answers.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
But that was really the point for you is actually to find those words.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
It's obvious that we can all find them, but The thing is, you have a mission as well.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
When you were when I was asking.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Hey, you guys find the five words I gave you a mission to go and find it, and that's what you're doing, OK?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So when you have a mission, you will accomplish it.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
When you have a sense of purpose, what's happening, you want to know the answer, right?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So if I just take you all.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yeah.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Uh, I leave you.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know those words?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Uh, that page with you do what you want.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Are you going to go and find those words?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Probably not.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So you see the meaning is about you bringing meaning to what you're doing.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Otherwise, you know you stay as a as a vegetable.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so it's it's not about finding the words, but it's also of course, the words are meaningful, but it is also about remembering that, you know, when you have a mission to do something is because you have a purpose.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so that's what you you're doing.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So first, thank you and let's move now to to the next slide and hopefully we have enough question at the end of then we can uh, we can have plenty of questions.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So when you hear a lot about this word, happiness, right, everyone.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
We all know that word we understand and my question to you, do you understand what happiness is?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Do you really understand what the word happiness is?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
It's very complex concept because you have happiness and then you have pleasure, happiness and the one that I want to talk about today when we talked about passion is what are called sustainable happiness.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so it's not a quick pleasure.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You go out, you say?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Ohh gosh I want to have an ice cream that makes me happy.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Wrong.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Having an ice cream, even if it's nice, doesn't bring you happiness.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
It brings you pleasure, but bringing happiness into your workplace and your work life and your private life is very different because you need meaning.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
That is sustainable happiness.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So by the way, if you want to know more, go to Tiki go and find my book.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I wrote a book on happiness.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so that is really all explained out there, but it's really what I mean is don't be confused.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Don't confuse yourself between pleasure and happiness.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Happiness is driven by a sense of purpose.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
It's not just pressure, OK?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Uh, any any questions?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Anyone any comments on that one?
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Any comments guys?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Otherwise you just chat and then we we pick it up.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Don't.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Not to worry.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
We'll pick up at the end.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yeah.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
If you want, you can let comment guys.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yeah, no worries.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, let's move now to the next slide.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So the next slide is, uh, a big a big number and is written 80%.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Does anyone know why it's 80 percent, 80% of work and you know that the topic today, right?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What is 80%?
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Christopher Denis Delacour
80% of what guys?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What do you think it means?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I think it's not what.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I'll give you a hint.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
It's actually scary.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
No, nothing guys.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You want me to tell you?
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Christopher Denis Delacour
OK, I think they are.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yeah. OK.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
I, Mr Trump.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Uh, somebody trying?
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Christopher Denis Delacour
OK. OK.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Mr Trung does sustainable opinions give you?
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Christopher Denis Delacour
OK, it's for later.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
For later.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, later.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Ah, near she say 80% had happiness death.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so actually.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
It it me it 80% people don't feel happy at work, OK.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Hi, happy at work, OK.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
That that type of here give another another topic on that one.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
But the 80% first thank you for, for, for, for jumping in and trying I I would not be able to give you the exact number that because first it depends on what time and which country and it's quite a complicated number, but actually you probably not too far the 80% that today I wanted to refer to is really about 80% of us have not do not know how to find passion and that is not very good because if you don't have passion that mean you don't know what you are doing in life and you don't know.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What you're doing, OK, so that is not good.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So let me give you some hope about how we can do it.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Alright.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so let's move now to to to to the next slide.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Umm, so, uh.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
And then you can move a bit more.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I think you got some words.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yeah.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So it's really about, you know, how can we do, you know, to find to find passion.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So when we want to actually, can you move to the next slide and then I see because I think that yeah, but that's it.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So when we when we talking about passion.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
The passion is is always how it brings very strong emotions into what you want to do.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so if somebody is passionated about have strong passion about tennis, about piano, about gymnasium or about.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Umm, I don't know.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Writing a book whatsoever all of this is driven by a strong passion, which is a strong emotion, and why I do I say this is because you have to remember that in emotional intelligence you have to remember that any of your emotions will drive you action.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, you cannot do anything if you don't feel an emotion.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Which means if you're not motivated to do something is because there's no emotion behind.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So if you're in a low mood, if you're not feeling well, you're not going to have passion, are you?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You're not going to want to do something.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Achieve something right?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You're not going just to have a brilliant creative idea, because to have passions you need to be able to understand your the positivity of your emotions.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So I didn't say that you have to force it, but I have.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I said you have to understand how to nurture your positive emotions, not putting, not pushing away.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, not pushing away the unpleasant one, because where human, we have everything, but it's really about being aware of that.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so do you have passion to drive you to do something you need to know about the quality of the emotions?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so let's move now to the next the next slide.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
And and this is what we we talked about.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So when we talked about self awareness, it's really about trying to understand who we are and most of us believe that we understand who we are and I can't tell you that it's super wrong because we don't know who we are because we don't question ourselves.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
We believe what society telling us, we tell, we believe you know that leaders Ohm in America where the country is telling us what to do.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So we not always self aware because we don't question our self enough to be able just to say what is it that I can do.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So then I can know myself.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So then therefore I can explore the possibilities with my own view and my own perspective, rather than being dictated by other people who tell you that's what you should do because you're a boy.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
That's what you should do because you are a girl.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So obviously when you go there, you need to have a plan.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
It just doesn't happen like this.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
No one is going to say, hey, here's your passion on the plate.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Let's go and make it happen.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
It won't happen.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So you need to have a plan.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So why I'm saying this is because my journey is as I mentioned to you before.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So I I'm in my 50s.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Uh, you know, so I'm not that young, but I still feel quite young.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
It doesn't matter.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
That's still young, still young.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Umm, but thank you.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I feel young anyway, but my my journey I think is important because I always think about what is it that I want to leave behind as a legacy and I have always had that even in my 20s, thirties, 40s.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So my journey is not just to make money I and of money to leave, of course, but marginally.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Is it what is it that I can do to leave behind the day when I'm not in this planet anymore?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
How many lives have I impacted?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So it's really about how you want to move forward.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So then you can you can leave some impact on on other people and that is part of my passion.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So I know myself little bit more and not try to learn and learn and learn and learn and also unlearn as well.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So unlearn is important, because then you can see all.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Maybe it's maybe it's not enough place for passion because I'm doing too much or something. OK?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Does it make sense?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yeah.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so let's move now to the next slide.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
And and this is something that you might like just to to remember.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So when you when you are in your 20s and most of you and your 20s, you know you're not going just to find your passion like this.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know, it's not somebody telling you, hey, you know somebody is super successful because that person has found this way.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
It's not going to happen like that.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What you need to do is try something new, even if you're not good at try something.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So then you can challenge yourself know that you like it.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Maybe know that you can be good at it.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Know that you know you can push the boundaries, really push your comfort zone, and then this is how you push yourself awareness.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
This is why you also discovered yourself, and this is also how you must drink a new skill.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So I give you an idea, I give you, you know, a quick example.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So then you give you you you have the picture.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
All of this, of course, is based on your values, which are your compass.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So my first job when I was, uh, my first job when I was uh finishing my uh my my first masters in in France, I was a stockbroker and I met a lot of money because everybody in my family and my and my and my family around, you know, you should be working in in a stockbroking you make so much money and whatever, whatever whatever.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
And of course I did it, but I was only 20, something I didn't know what it was.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
When not when I did my job and I said Ohh, there's something that I know now is definitely something that I don't like and I won't do it again.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So I did my job.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
I finished my contract, but at least I knew what it was and I'm not going to do it because it's not my thing.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know, I was dragging my feet, you know, to go to work.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
That wasn't my thing.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So this is what I'm saying about, you know, try something new, even if it was my my background, OK, and This is why when we were crystal where introducing me before I do a lot of things, you know, I do a lot of happiness at work now, helping people to find happiness, meanings, passion.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Uh, you know, change bringing change in workplace culture.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
High helping people to discover themselves, so it's very different because you need to find your way and then you refine it and then you know, you adjust because you know that that's the thing that help you in the morning to wake up and say that's the one.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
That's the thing.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so you don't you don't create the meaning of your life, even if a lot of people or Instagram is telling you that's not true, you discover it, you shape it.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, very different.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So doesn't matter, but you study, you know, it's about you shaping you, shaping your, your, your work and your passion.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so let's move now to to the next slide.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
And and this is what we were really talking about.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So there's no recipe, no shortcut.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Even if Instagram or tick Tock, Terry, you know this is your passion.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You have to find, you know this is, you know, the recipe ABC 123 that is not right.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, that is not true.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You have to go through trying failing.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Trying again, failing again, it doesn't matter.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
UM is there's no shortcut whatsoever because we are all human being, and if we all human being, that's mean that we have to try make mistakes, try again.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Make mistake many times it doesn't matter, but then at the same times you have you know which one that you like.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Which one you good at?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Which one you good at?
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
But then you can stretch and then you adjust.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So it really is no shortcut whatsoever.
0:29:32.630 --> 0:29:36.0
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so let's move now to to the next slide.
0:29:39.380 --> 0:29:48.970
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And then and this big slide is a lot of words and as you can see, the big word on the top autotelic, has anyone seen this word before?
0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:54.420
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Don't worry, you even ask for native English because they don't even know about it.
0:29:55.770 --> 0:29:56.360
Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah, don't be.
0:29:54.430 --> 0:29:56.800
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So do not worry, that's a complicated word.
0:29:56.370 --> 0:29:57.300
Christopher Denis Delacour
Don't be shy guys.
0:29:57.830 --> 0:29:59.290
Christopher Denis Delacour
No, I don't. Yeah.
0:29:58.40 --> 0:30:1.910
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And so, you know, like even me long time ago, when I saw what does that mean?
0:30:2.220 --> 0:30:5.440
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, but I I read it.
0:30:5.510 --> 0:30:6.540
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I read it to you.
0:30:6.590 --> 0:30:6.900
My Holland | EQuest Asia
What?
0:30:6.910 --> 0:30:7.680
My Holland | EQuest Asia
What did we means?
0:30:7.690 --> 0:30:8.120
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
0:30:8.260 --> 0:30:20.550
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So autotelic person needs few material possessions and little entertainment, comfort, power or fame, because so much of what or she does is already rewarding.
0:30:22.50 --> 0:30:39.820
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Because such person experience flow in work and we're going to see that later in family life when interacting with people, when eating, even when alone with nothing to do, they depend less on external reward that keep over motivated to go on with your life of routines.
0:30:40.650 --> 0:30:48.240
My Holland | EQuest Asia
There are more autonomous and independent because they can't be easily manipulated with threats or rewards from the outside.
0:30:49.10 --> 0:30:57.510
My Holland | EQuest Asia
At the same time, they are more involved with everything around them because they are fully immersed in the current of life.
0:30:58.130 --> 0:31:9.60
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So complicated concept, but basically what it means is you know, you know you're worth, you are learning for yourself and you don't need rewards.
0:31:9.250 --> 0:31:13.940
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know from the external world, OK, so it's really for yourself, you know?
0:31:13.950 --> 0:31:17.820
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So you don't need all the things to feel that you are someone.
0:31:17.990 --> 0:31:29.510
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So it's it's really about knowing your worth, knowing your knowledge are having really knowing, you know, knowing what you have in your values, you know, rather than being validated by the external world.
0:31:29.740 --> 0:31:32.880
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so let's move now to the next slide.
0:31:36.60 --> 0:31:38.480
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And then, uh, and nothing.
0:31:38.490 --> 0:31:44.640
My Holland | EQuest Asia
We can click another one, so then you have the name and does anyone want to volunteer and pronounce his name?
0:31:48.0 --> 0:31:49.100
Christopher Denis Delacour
Ah, challenge guys.
0:31:47.940 --> 0:31:50.490
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Anyone wants to try his name? Who?
0:31:50.0 --> 0:31:50.680
Christopher Denis Delacour
Alec, anyone?
0:31:50.690 --> 0:31:52.160
Christopher Denis Delacour
Guys who wants to try?
0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:56.370
My Holland | EQuest Asia
At one many times, if you want to know.
0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:58.50
Christopher Denis Delacour
Uh, wait, wait.
0:31:56.380 --> 0:31:58.60
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So you who wants to have a go?
0:31:58.420 --> 0:32:1.100
Christopher Denis Delacour
I know who Joe, John win.
0:32:2.630 --> 0:32:2.970
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Come on.
0:32:2.530 --> 0:32:4.990
Christopher Denis Delacour
Finland she has been in Finland five years.
0:32:5.550 --> 0:32:6.330
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Oh, so you would know?
0:32:7.580 --> 0:32:10.240
My Holland | EQuest Asia
That's almost almost the same as the. Yeah.
0:32:10.540 --> 0:32:12.160
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So how would you pronounce his name?
0:32:13.110 --> 0:32:13.930
Chau Nguyen
Umm.
0:32:15.80 --> 0:32:15.910
Chau Nguyen
Is this?
0:32:18.450 --> 0:32:19.290
My Holland | EQuest Asia
No, it's not finished.
0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:19.930
Chau Nguyen
This is clearly not 10 finished, but I will.
0:32:19.980 --> 0:32:28.190
Chau Nguyen
I will try like be we had we had this we had this see you today.
0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:30.340
Chau Nguyen
I can't it's.
0:32:29.870 --> 0:32:31.150
Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah, don't worry.
0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:32.600
Christopher Denis Delacour
Don't worry too.
0:32:31.770 --> 0:32:33.620
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Don't worry, we no one did it.
0:32:36.410 --> 0:32:37.340
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So thank you, Chao.
0:32:38.230 --> 0:32:38.490
Christopher Denis Delacour
Alright.
0:32:37.350 --> 0:32:38.790
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So you're right, it's not finished.
0:32:39.690 --> 0:32:48.340
My Holland | EQuest Asia
He's from Eastern Europe and now that I know how to pronounce his name because he came to Australia, you know, for conference and this is how I learned a lot of.
0:32:48.530 --> 0:32:53.220
My Holland | EQuest Asia
The science of happiness and what we call positive psychology.
0:32:53.470 --> 0:32:56.580
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So how to pronounce his name is Mihai Chichen Mihai.
0:32:57.620 --> 0:32:58.280
Christopher Denis Delacour
Wow.
0:32:56.970 --> 0:33:8.40
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so I won't be able to write it down for you next time, but but I have learned many many times and this guy has his ancient.
0:33:8.50 --> 0:33:8.780
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I think he's in.
0:33:8.790 --> 0:33:10.340
My Holland | EQuest Asia
He's 80 years old or something.
0:33:10.910 --> 0:33:17.450
My Holland | EQuest Asia
He doesn't travel anymore, but he's one of the brilliant, one of the most brilliant.
0:33:19.60 --> 0:33:25.30
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Mind in psychology, uh, and he's the father or what we call the concept of flow.
0:33:25.100 --> 0:33:25.290
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
0:33:25.300 --> 0:33:26.750
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And we're going to see that the next slide.
0:33:27.220 --> 0:34:2.510
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So he's the one who who's really at the at the basic of that concept of flow, where when, when the other guy so you can see on the quotation here that I I chosen here so pushback when he talks about you know the happy people are the happiest people because they are the one who don't need much they are not the one who had expensive cars or expensive houses or expensive watches they are not the one the happiest people are the one who knows how to get in the state of flow.
0:34:2.900 --> 0:34:4.950
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, flow FLW.
0:34:4.990 --> 0:34:8.770
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so let's move now to the next slide and you will know what I'm talking about.
0:34:9.380 --> 0:34:14.820
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So, so tickled Mihal is the guy who has basically done this graph.
0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:15.220
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.130
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And this is bad.
0:34:18.660 --> 0:34:20.890
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Where to understand this tool?
0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:25.190
My Holland | EQuest Asia
The flow state where you want to maximize your happiness.
0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:30.890
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So if you are very capable, so you see the access on the bottom.
0:34:31.100 --> 0:34:32.870
My Holland | EQuest Asia
This is the obvious kind of challenges.
0:34:33.770 --> 0:34:39.100
My Holland | EQuest Asia
If things are easy, OK, in terms of challenges is very, very easy.
0:34:39.500 --> 0:34:43.940
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know you are going to get a you're not going to be stretched.
0:34:43.940 --> 0:34:45.840
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You're going to be bored, you know?
0:34:45.850 --> 0:34:47.720
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So you're not differently and not in the flow.
0:34:48.30 --> 0:34:53.520
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So how it is to read this is how to make sure that you have the balance between the two.
0:34:54.110 --> 0:35:4.830
My Holland | EQuest Asia
If it's too complicated, too difficult for your capacity capability, you will be anxious, stressed and you are not going to be to achieve well, OK.
0:35:5.100 --> 0:35:9.730
My Holland | EQuest Asia
On the other side, if you have two is if it's too challenging, it makes you too worried.
0:35:9.840 --> 0:35:12.650
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You can't be happy either because you're constantly thinking, you know.
0:35:12.660 --> 0:35:13.80
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Oh my gosh.
0:35:13.90 --> 0:35:14.290
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know, I don't know how to do it.
0:35:14.730 --> 0:35:18.660
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So what you need to do to be able to have that?
0:35:19.930 --> 0:35:31.850
My Holland | EQuest Asia
That said, the flow is to have the balance between, you know, the challenges, the difficulty of the task that you involved in, and also your capacity at handling the task.
0:35:31.930 --> 0:35:33.360
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And that has to be balanced.
0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:37.320
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So obviously one we're talking before, but self awareness is up to you.
0:35:37.550 --> 0:35:39.470
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know how you move into that?
0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:42.100
My Holland | EQuest Asia
No, that graph.
0:35:42.150 --> 0:35:44.190
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So then you can really balance yourself.
0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:45.790
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So I'll give you an example.
0:35:46.240 --> 0:35:47.250
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Me, I'm bored.
0:35:47.300 --> 0:35:50.850
My Holland | EQuest Asia
If I don't learn OK, I think I'll Christoph is the same.
0:35:52.460 --> 0:35:53.20
Christopher Denis Delacour
Same here.
0:35:51.30 --> 0:35:53.650
My Holland | EQuest Asia
If you don't learn, you know you're not moving forward.
0:35:53.660 --> 0:35:55.910
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You don't grow and then you're bored.
0:35:56.470 --> 0:36:5.200
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So some people, you know, they're OK with bottom, but then at the same time, boredom, it doesn't go well with with happiness.
0:36:5.460 --> 0:36:5.810
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
0:36:5.820 --> 0:36:12.910
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Because you you are the state where you are not being challenged and your brain is not being challenged.
0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:16.470
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So basically nothing, nothing is really stretching you OK?
0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:27.470
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So the key thing is to find that balance between your capacity, your intellectual capacity, and your cognitive capacity, obviously, and your level of challenge.
0:36:27.860 --> 0:36:30.930
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So you are not anxious, but you are not bored neither.
0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:36.300
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so being in the balance, OK, does anyone want to to have any questions here?
0:36:41.150 --> 0:36:41.330
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yep.
0:36:37.550 --> 0:36:46.630
Christopher Denis Delacour
OK, we have some some comments if you don't mind, Mr Trump say, I think people who found passion in in arts are mostly autotelic.
0:36:47.630 --> 0:36:47.850
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yes.
0:36:47.730 --> 0:36:49.0
Christopher Denis Delacour
It was a previous concept.
0:36:49.10 --> 0:36:53.540
Christopher Denis Delacour
Yes, it's it's a correct one, uh sang following the same ID.
0:36:53.550 --> 0:36:55.740
Christopher Denis Delacour
I think there is some artists that use uh.
0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:56.820
Christopher Denis Delacour
It's a bit different.
0:36:56.950 --> 0:37:0.80
Christopher Denis Delacour
Some artists, they use negative emotion to do art and songs.
0:37:0.390 --> 0:37:1.300
Christopher Denis Delacour
Is that passion too?
0:37:2.500 --> 0:37:4.370
Christopher Denis Delacour
So maybe you can answer now later.
0:37:5.90 --> 0:37:6.140
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yeah, keep that question. Yeah.
0:37:5.140 --> 0:37:11.910
Christopher Denis Delacour
I think the yeah, I think we, Venus say I think we have their sense of direction.
0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:19.550
Christopher Denis Delacour
Telling them the path that they should go, so I think is talking about autotelic people that follow Autotelic system.
0:37:20.180 --> 0:37:20.690
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yeah.
0:37:20.740 --> 0:37:21.290
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yeah.
0:37:21.660 --> 0:37:25.290
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So I think you, you alright and that question, let's let's keep it at the end.
0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:27.790
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Uh, I think you're very right about the artist.
0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:29.970
My Holland | EQuest Asia
'S uh, you know, being in the flow.
0:37:30.690 --> 0:37:36.260
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Umm, you know you're doing painting, you're doing, you know, writing or whatever.
0:37:36.270 --> 0:37:37.850
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So it doesn't have just to be artists.
0:37:37.860 --> 0:37:38.320
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
0:37:38.530 --> 0:37:52.960
My Holland | EQuest Asia
But it's about when you have a sense of mastery because you are creating you are creating something and where you're going to have a moment of pride because it's it's your creation and you know that you know you're going to finish it and you know that you need to Polish it.
0:37:52.970 --> 0:37:56.560
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You're not to be good at and you need to have that sense of mastery.
0:37:56.690 --> 0:38:21.990
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So therefore, you know you have you had that, that sense of flow, but also remember you don't have to be adult to have flow think about children when they are playing and you know they don't do whatever when they're playing, they're in the floor, they forget everything it because they want to build with Lego bricks, they want to build a tower or they drawing something and they're so involved that they forget to hear Mum calling.
0:38:22.0 --> 0:38:22.960
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Hey, it's time to it.
0:38:23.260 --> 0:38:24.410
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so that's what I'm saying.
0:38:24.420 --> 0:38:29.690
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So the Pro is pushing the challenges they want to go the big tower.
0:38:29.870 --> 0:38:34.750
My Holland | EQuest Asia
It doesn't fall and they are capable of doing it because they have engineered.
0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:38.910
My Holland | EQuest Asia
They're thinking so it's really, you know, being in in the flow there.
0:38:38.980 --> 0:38:41.420
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so let's move on to the next slide.
0:38:44.960 --> 0:39:2.840
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And and this is I think we all know business, but it's really about, you know, uh, reminding yourself about, you know, and we usually take the easy solution, we always let's be clear about ourselves, you know, like 80% of us, you know, we'll take the comfort zone.
0:39:3.820 --> 0:39:5.430
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Umm, we know something.
0:39:5.480 --> 0:39:8.630
My Holland | EQuest Asia
We stay there, you know, we all said, oh, yeah, yeah, I will.
0:39:8.640 --> 0:39:9.460
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I will try myself.
0:39:9.470 --> 0:39:11.510
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I will stretch myself, you know.
0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:13.250
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Can you really adapt to it?
0:39:13.260 --> 0:39:14.410
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Do you really want to learn?
0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.390
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I do you accept to fail?
0:39:18.290 --> 0:39:22.280
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Is it OK if you try to get in and try it again even if people are judging you?
0:39:22.970 --> 0:39:24.320
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Or how are you doing?
0:39:24.330 --> 0:39:39.640
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And this is really a slide where I want you to reflect especially you know, for your assignment if you want to choose this one about, you know, how much of your comfort zone are you in and how much do you challenge it on a daily basis?
0:39:40.270 --> 0:39:46.120
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so the comfort zone is not because you do it once every six months in your hey, you know, I'm doing something new.
0:39:46.130 --> 0:39:47.10
My Holland | EQuest Asia
That's fantastic.
0:39:47.470 --> 0:39:49.0
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know you learning something new?
0:39:49.100 --> 0:40:0.850
My Holland | EQuest Asia
What I'm talking is, is every day it's not, it's not, uh, you know, because you have, you want to do a startup, you know, in a year time or three years time you're going to get out your comfort zone.
0:40:1.180 --> 0:40:2.470
My Holland | EQuest Asia
It's not what I'm talking about.
0:40:2.480 --> 0:40:5.210
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I'm talking about your comfort zone as of today.
0:40:5.700 --> 0:40:7.590
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know, how ready are you?
0:40:8.80 --> 0:40:8.870
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Small question.
0:40:9.0 --> 0:40:12.200
My Holland | EQuest Asia
How ready are you and to it tonight?
0:40:12.470 --> 0:40:18.220
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know, instead of uh, uh, Ben sale or flow or whatever, how much?
0:40:18.510 --> 0:40:21.630
My Holland | EQuest Asia
How many of you would be happy to to eat the good afternoon?
0:40:22.500 --> 0:40:23.590
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Or how much?
0:40:23.700 --> 0:40:27.440
My Holland | EQuest Asia
How many of you would be happy to try something like a okonomiyaki?
0:40:28.650 --> 0:40:31.560
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so here's your here's your question.
0:40:31.790 --> 0:40:34.160
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Do I take the comfort zone when I know what it is?
0:40:34.490 --> 0:40:37.240
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I I eat what I want or am I touching my?
0:40:37.290 --> 0:40:39.760
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I might stretching myself and learn what?
0:40:39.770 --> 0:40:41.650
My Holland | EQuest Asia
What is that word that she's just mentioned?
0:40:42.390 --> 0:40:52.630
My Holland | EQuest Asia
By the way, is an Indian dessert as beautiful gulab jamun is really about stretch, learn and then fell that mean maybe you don't like it doesn't matter, but it's really about learning it.
0:40:52.870 --> 0:41:1.550
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so let's move now to to the next slide and why we were talking about comfort zone is really about, you know, being in the flow.
0:41:1.560 --> 0:41:3.300
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So then you are stretching yourself.
0:41:3.310 --> 0:41:11.240
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so can someone really retire if that person is passionate about what that person wants to do?
0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:15.510
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so I gave you my the example of myself here.
0:41:16.300 --> 0:41:19.610
My Holland | EQuest Asia
UM, honestly, I can take it easy.
0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:22.650
My Holland | EQuest Asia
He Australia, even if it's winter here.
0:41:22.660 --> 0:41:23.750
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I live by the beach.
0:41:24.10 --> 0:41:24.810
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I have the river.
0:41:24.820 --> 0:41:26.590
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You're not the bottom of my garden here.
0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:34.110
My Holland | EQuest Asia
My property I can have it pretty easy here, but I cannot do it because I would be deadly bored.
0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:35.230
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I can't do it.
0:41:35.380 --> 0:41:45.620
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so so This is why when I'm telling you about, you know, finding your passion is you need to find the thing which, umm, drives you in the morning.
0:41:45.630 --> 0:41:47.50
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I say yeah, I have an idea.
0:41:47.60 --> 0:41:52.190
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I am going to do this when I move with my family and Christoph taught.
0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.450
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Actually one of my daughter's.
0:41:54.460 --> 0:41:55.230
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I tired Martin.
0:41:56.80 --> 0:41:56.610
Christopher Denis Delacour
I did.
0:41:55.240 --> 0:41:58.870
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Vietnam UM, remember?
0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:5.210
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So you know, so my 2 girls were born in Australia, so they don't speak the enemies, you know, and my husband definitely don't speak Vietnamese.
0:42:5.220 --> 0:42:6.340
My Holland | EQuest Asia
He's he's from New Zealand.
0:42:7.280 --> 0:42:16.630
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Uh, we all came to Vietnam telling me about, you know, pushing our comfort zone is we don't know, Vietnam, we didn't know Vietnam and I speak Vietnamese but not that great.
0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:20.270
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And we did our startup in Vietnam.
0:42:21.310 --> 0:42:22.790
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So this is what I'm talking about.
0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:41.600
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know, pushing your comfort zone and opened yourself to to possibilities and opportunities as well and really just try to see, you know, the passion that I had before about legacy of education, sharing, helping people to think in another way.
0:42:42.450 --> 0:42:45.60
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Can I do a startup out of it?
0:42:45.470 --> 0:42:52.540
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And we did because we see six years now that we we are doing it, so it worked, but the first few years was really hard.
0:42:53.410 --> 0:42:54.640
My Holland | EQuest Asia
But this is what I'm saying.
0:42:54.650 --> 0:43:7.910
My Holland | EQuest Asia
It's about starting, you know, be driven by a sense of purpose, meaning and and, you know, challenge your comfort zone and really learn, learn, learn, sometimes unlearn as well and just keep on.
0:43:7.920 --> 0:43:23.170
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Keep on doing because when you have that flow for moment, that chicken behaves talking about it's about stretching yourself so then you know your your you had that fine balance been is it too much or is it not enough so then you you adjusting it.
0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:27.480
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so let's move now to to the next slide.
0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:37.480
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And and then we were talking about the the, the last one, I think about the mindset of for, for action.
0:43:38.990 --> 0:43:49.890
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So basically is the biggest, the biggest obstacle that I think that you will have is, is your mindset.
0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:55.840
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So we all believe that, you know we will do it, but we can do it.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
That's great, but sometimes it's really about.
0:44:1.970 --> 0:44:7.640
My Holland | EQuest Asia
It's about stopping and pausing and just thinking how.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
What is it that I need to do to have a mindset to make things happen?
0:44:13.270 --> 0:44:15.560
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Is my passion enough or not enough?
0:44:17.420 --> 0:44:19.990
My Holland | EQuest Asia
What is it that I need to add to my passion?
0:44:20.60 --> 0:44:25.720
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So then I have enough skills to make sure you know whatever project that I want to do will will happen.
0:44:26.410 --> 0:44:39.640
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So it's OK, you know, to have status go and thinking about this, but this sometimes is also good just to to stop and reflect on your on your milestone.
0:44:41.340 --> 0:44:46.600
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Then you challenge it and then if you really want, I mean like me, I have one.
0:44:46.970 --> 0:44:50.610
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I have a journal where I write about my my doubt.
0:44:51.460 --> 0:44:53.130
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Uh, myself.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Doubt the question that people ask me and that didn't know how to answer and the question that people ask me is ohh my gosh, this is such a good question I should have thought about it.
0:45:1.710 --> 0:45:7.90
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know, ten years ago or it's all about building that mindset.
0:45:7.380 --> 0:45:10.990
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So then you bring your passion into action, OK?
0:45:11.100 --> 0:45:18.670
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Because the issue that you might have I think is the group thinking, you have a passion, you have an idea.
0:45:19.540 --> 0:45:22.50
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You think is very good because it's your gut feeling.
0:45:22.380 --> 0:45:23.310
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Of course you have to.
0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:25.30
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Do your homework.
0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:26.450
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You have to do your.
0:45:26.530 --> 0:45:30.670
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You have to put a few skills you have to go to uni, you have to learn and learn.
0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:33.890
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Learn, you know, don't stop after you learn everything you can.
0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:40.810
My Holland | EQuest Asia
But then if the group thinking of your friends tell ohh that one that is not going to work.
0:45:40.820 --> 0:45:43.840
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know that's not going to work in our four.
0:45:43.850 --> 0:45:45.620
My Holland | EQuest Asia
My friend's tried and it's not working.
0:45:46.810 --> 0:45:49.930
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Then you start to self doubt, right?
0:45:51.150 --> 0:45:53.560
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And then that is what we call the group thinking.
0:45:53.670 --> 0:46:10.660
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So voice one can stop you from making sure that you go to the next step and it is sometimes also the good thing is how can you make sure that you think you thinking and your idea about whatever you want to do in your in your passionate life.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You have to to be humble about it.
0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:15.850
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You don't have to be.
0:46:16.80 --> 0:46:19.130
My Holland | EQuest Asia
That is only one that I want to do and I will stick to it.
0:46:19.660 --> 0:46:22.390
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Don't be so stubborn to be stuck with it.
0:46:22.660 --> 0:46:25.610
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know when it's time to adjust, you adjust.
0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:27.30
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So don't be.
0:46:27.460 --> 0:46:32.630
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Don't be really driven by one thing and then you don't see all the things.
0:46:32.900 --> 0:46:38.0
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so that can be an obstacle for growth because it doesn't.
0:46:39.260 --> 0:46:45.190
My Holland | EQuest Asia
It doesn't help you to open your minds, so then you can see you can see everything else.
0:46:46.100 --> 0:47:1.190
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So I think that's important just to to make sure that you know your to build your your mindset for action, you have to have all those and uh over feedback honest.
0:47:1.480 --> 0:47:5.570
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know, especially honest one, you know from other people the good one and the not so good one.
0:47:5.980 --> 0:47:8.750
My Holland | EQuest Asia
But also make sure that you judge it.
0:47:9.600 --> 0:47:18.330
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Make sure that it's not because Tik T.O.K say or Tik T.O.K say that you know that is brilliant idea.
0:47:18.340 --> 0:47:22.580
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know, look, that person has make millions because of that one simple idea.
0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:27.760
My Holland | EQuest Asia
But think of how many of a million of people also have tried and it didn't work.
0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:43.830
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So it's really about doing being very careful about, you know, making sure that you, you, your sense of perspective, you know when you when you really uh judge, assess balance, uh, the validity of your of your project.
0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:45.510
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK.
0:47:45.580 --> 0:47:46.980
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So any question on this one?
0:47:50.110 --> 0:47:50.960
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, go for it.
0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:52.160
Christopher Denis Delacour
Or we have many comments and some questions. Allie.
0:47:52.170 --> 0:47:52.630
Christopher Denis Delacour
Let's go.
0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:54.650
Christopher Denis Delacour
Sorry guys, if I forget some.
0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:56.350
Christopher Denis Delacour
OK, wait a bit.
0:47:56.510 --> 0:47:57.950
Christopher Denis Delacour
And now add some flow.
0:47:57.960 --> 0:47:58.380
Christopher Denis Delacour
I finish.
0:47:58.390 --> 0:47:58.750
Christopher Denis Delacour
OK.
0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:0.440
Christopher Denis Delacour
So it's more comment, it's more comment.
0:48:0.780 --> 0:48:4.570
Christopher Denis Delacour
Ah, question for Miss NI, and it's a good question.
0:48:4.660 --> 0:48:9.510
Christopher Denis Delacour
Does passion last forever in human life, or is it just?
0:48:9.640 --> 0:48:10.740
Christopher Denis Delacour
Is it just temporary?
0:48:12.930 --> 0:48:14.120
My Holland | EQuest Asia
That's a very good question.
0:48:14.130 --> 0:48:15.90
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So thank you for asking.
0:48:15.670 --> 0:48:23.880
My Holland | EQuest Asia
UM, honestly, I won't be able to answer that because I don't really know about the how temporary it is or not.
0:48:24.900 --> 0:48:25.990
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm hmm.
0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:30.230
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Umm, I think what we have to be very careful about the word passion.
0:48:31.60 --> 0:48:34.340
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I think maybe we have to be very careful about the word we want to choose.
0:48:49.450 --> 0:48:49.660
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:48:35.130 --> 0:48:49.820
My Holland | EQuest Asia
If you have a very strong passion and remember 80% of us had not found it yet, umm, what is not good about passion is that you are so driven that you don't see other things.
0:48:50.190 --> 0:48:51.320
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You're so obsessed.
0:48:51.650 --> 0:48:58.500
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And to be to have an obsession, it's not always very healthy for your mental health.
0:48:59.340 --> 0:48:59.590
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
0:48:59.110 --> 0:49:4.410
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So that is something that I think is important just to uh, to to make the point.
0:49:3.390 --> 0:49:5.310
Christopher Denis Delacour
To put in perspective, yeah, yeah, too.
0:49:5.630 --> 0:49:9.30
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Because and then you you see it.
0:49:9.110 --> 0:49:9.810
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Uh, for instance.
0:49:9.820 --> 0:49:10.990
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know Tiger Woods?
0:49:11.0 --> 0:49:12.370
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know the guy who plays golf?
0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:13.80
Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah.
0:49:12.730 --> 0:49:16.510
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Uh, Michael Jordan or, you know, always people.
0:49:17.170 --> 0:49:17.350
Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah.
0:49:17.60 --> 0:49:19.90
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And they have not.
0:49:19.420 --> 0:49:21.630
My Holland | EQuest Asia
They're not mentally healthy.
0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:28.760
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Do you know there's so, so, so obsessed with with that stuff?
0:49:34.910 --> 0:49:35.300
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
0:49:29.670 --> 0:49:37.510
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Uh, just because they make money and then second because their agent is pushing them and pushing those people so then they can even make more money martial for who?
0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:40.230
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Umm, so this is what I'm saying.
0:49:42.930 --> 0:49:43.140
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:49:40.300 --> 0:49:43.520
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Have to be very careful about the weddings.
0:49:47.190 --> 0:49:47.410
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
0:49:43.870 --> 0:49:52.980
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I think it's good to have to be driven by passion if it brings you joy and then if it if it stopped one day of it's going down, that's OK.
0:49:53.30 --> 0:49:54.350
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You don't have just to push, push, push.
0:49:55.190 --> 0:49:55.580
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
0:49:56.10 --> 0:49:58.500
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You have to let go, but you have to know at the right time.
0:49:58.510 --> 0:50:0.0
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So this is one I'm talking to today.
0:50:0.10 --> 0:50:2.180
My Holland | EQuest Asia
A lot about self awareness is is about this.
0:50:2.940 --> 0:50:3.180
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:50:9.500 --> 0:50:9.730
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
0:50:9.790 --> 0:50:13.280
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Being very mean to all your families and friends, something is not right.
0:50:13.310 --> 0:50:16.20
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm yeah, so the limit of passion, right?
0:50:16.30 --> 0:50:17.60
Christopher Denis Delacour
It's optician.
0:50:17.230 --> 0:50:17.780
Christopher Denis Delacour
It's moment.
0:50:17.830 --> 0:50:18.480
Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah.
0:50:18.890 --> 0:50:19.340
Christopher Denis Delacour
OK.
0:50:16.350 --> 0:50:19.540
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so that is not right, yeah.
0:50:19.350 --> 0:50:20.20
Christopher Denis Delacour
Thank you.
0:50:20.690 --> 0:50:23.620
Christopher Denis Delacour
We have another question from Mr Chung.
0:50:23.850 --> 0:50:28.360
Christopher Denis Delacour
How do you reignite ignite your passion when you lose it?
0:50:28.890 --> 0:50:34.420
Christopher Denis Delacour
Would it just be a temporary pleasure that you take in doing that thing and not actually passion?
0:50:39.100 --> 0:50:39.370
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Yep.
0:50:35.500 --> 0:50:41.540
Christopher Denis Delacour
So it means that you know the the short term, the the disappearance of passion etcetera, etcetera.
0:50:43.90 --> 0:50:53.180
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I think like you know, if you're writer or if you're a painter and and somehow we all are umm, it happens.
0:50:53.190 --> 0:51:1.560
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Where days when you write a book or you write your journal, or you write whatever you do a painting and and then you stop, you have no idea why it's stopped.
0:51:2.270 --> 0:51:3.280
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So think about it.
0:51:2.0 --> 0:51:3.640
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm hmm.
0:51:3.890 --> 0:51:7.990
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Maybe there's the environment, maybe there's something missing.
0:51:8.0 --> 0:51:11.570
My Holland | EQuest Asia
That maybe there's someone's missing in your in your love life.
0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:18.770
Christopher Denis Delacour
Anyone.
0:51:11.710 --> 0:51:21.0
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Maybe there's something in the world which happens which makes you really sad and moved, and that can impact on your creativity as well.
0:51:21.430 --> 0:51:22.140
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So.
0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:22.150
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
0:51:28.30 --> 0:51:28.680
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
0:51:30.570 --> 0:51:30.770
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:51:22.190 --> 0:51:34.70
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So I don't think that you have to push yourself too much, but you have to understand This is why I talk a lot about self awareness is really about making sure that you do a lot of thinking. Umm.
0:51:35.950 --> 0:51:37.50
My Holland | EQuest Asia
What's happening to me?
0:51:37.90 --> 0:51:40.780
My Holland | EQuest Asia
There's nothing wrong about, you know, having a blank page, even if I'm a writer.
0:51:41.10 --> 0:51:41.210
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:51:43.40 --> 0:51:43.290
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:51:40.790 --> 0:51:48.40
My Holland | EQuest Asia
It happened to me, but don't don't be, you know, don't don't be mean to yourself.
0:51:48.50 --> 0:51:48.840
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know, it's OK.
0:51:49.0 --> 0:51:49.250
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
0:51:48.850 --> 0:51:49.960
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You you're not a machine.
0:51:50.310 --> 0:51:57.0
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know, if you write, if you write with AI, you know a I just write every day you you're not a human, you're human person.
0:51:57.60 --> 0:51:57.290
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:51:59.470 --> 0:51:59.910
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
0:51:57.270 --> 0:52:0.960
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You can't write every day and it's OK not to be successful every day.
0:52:2.330 --> 0:52:2.580
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:52:7.400 --> 0:52:7.650
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
0:52:9.880 --> 0:52:10.110
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:14.10
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
0:52:1.690 --> 0:52:25.510
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Umm so you have days where you can accept and you have to accept that you have limitation, but then maybe a week later he come back because you have found the right the right place, the right time, the right whether the right people to be with and then your passion that you you're talking about reuniting is is happening again because that person has said something which motivates you to write again.
0:52:24.650 --> 0:52:26.910
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm, correct.
0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:31.550
Christopher Denis Delacour
And if I can add something, me, we have Mr Sang.
0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:39.250
Christopher Denis Delacour
It just said in the chat 10 minutes ago, I think external and internal environment can affect effect, passion and mindset.
0:52:39.860 --> 0:52:40.340
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Absolutely.
0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:42.230
Christopher Denis Delacour
So it's it's it's connecting exactly what you say.
0:52:42.240 --> 0:52:44.130
Christopher Denis Delacour
Of course we have external factors guys.
0:52:44.380 --> 0:52:45.130
Christopher Denis Delacour
It makes sense.
0:52:45.40 --> 0:52:45.510
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Absolutely.
0:52:45.140 --> 0:52:51.770
Christopher Denis Delacour
And if you listen carefully to me speech, she's exactly saying that, OK, we have time for 1-2 more questions.
0:52:51.780 --> 0:52:52.60
Christopher Denis Delacour
Is it OK?
0:52:53.190 --> 0:52:53.640
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Go for it.
0:52:54.100 --> 0:53:3.550
Christopher Denis Delacour
OK, Mr Trump again, should you hide your passion when there is a heavily negative group thinking, for example family?
0:53:5.110 --> 0:53:5.730
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Ohh my gosh.
0:53:3.920 --> 0:53:6.890
Christopher Denis Delacour
OK, wait Vietnamese. Umm.
0:53:7.520 --> 0:53:12.890
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Ohh UM well, I suggest that you watch my TEDx talk, which is going to be published in the month.
0:53:13.570 --> 0:53:13.780
Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah.
0:53:16.810 --> 0:53:18.100
Christopher Denis Delacour
But maybe yeah, yeah, it was.
0:53:14.830 --> 0:53:18.350
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And that talk about this and I think it will be.
0:53:18.110 --> 0:53:19.560
Christopher Denis Delacour
That's why I'm smiling too.
0:53:19.570 --> 0:53:20.980
Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah. Umm.
0:53:20.580 --> 0:53:21.250
My Holland | EQuest Asia
And it's it.
0:53:21.260 --> 0:53:21.760
My Holland | EQuest Asia
It pours.
0:53:21.830 --> 0:53:22.410
My Holland | EQuest Asia
It was.
0:53:23.300 --> 0:53:30.350
My Holland | EQuest Asia
It was about this, and so this one thing that you might also look on diet success.
0:53:33.590 --> 0:53:33.780
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:41.400
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So I didn't an interview with with Anna and Tongue and cooked Tan and we were talking about, you know, the influence of the family into your your own decision.
0:53:40.70 --> 0:53:42.310
Christopher Denis Delacour
Ah, you moment. Umm.
0:53:50.500 --> 0:53:50.710
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:53:41.580 --> 0:53:53.840
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So you might have a look at it, but basically I'm saying I'm saying is you don't have to go against against them because you will lose, but you need to build bridge even if they don't want to.
0:53:55.180 --> 0:53:55.540
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
0:53:54.720 --> 0:53:58.970
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Because in some in Vietnam the family is like this.
0:54:0.910 --> 0:54:1.250
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:53:58.980 --> 0:54:3.150
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So you know, the people on the top and we are always on the bottom.
0:54:3.950 --> 0:54:6.440
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So even if you're right, you could be wrong and nothing.
0:54:8.180 --> 0:54:8.420
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:54:11.80 --> 0:54:11.280
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:54:6.450 --> 0:54:15.690
My Holland | EQuest Asia
We know that, so that is why it's very difficult to talk about this with the family because you need to be to know how to build bridges.
0:54:16.710 --> 0:54:18.620
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So then you can open communication.
0:54:19.430 --> 0:54:19.750
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:54:18.830 --> 0:54:20.900
My Holland | EQuest Asia
We've at anyone losing face.
0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:22.40
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:54:21.470 --> 0:54:23.890
My Holland | EQuest Asia
We've had anyone feeling that you are.
0:54:29.330 --> 0:54:29.770
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
0:54:25.530 --> 0:54:31.280
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Challenging them because you are the youngest person, so you don't want to bring challenges.
0:54:39.10 --> 0:54:39.230
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:54:47.470 --> 0:54:47.630
Christopher Denis Delacour
No.
0:54:32.860 --> 0:54:49.170
My Holland | EQuest Asia
You don't want to bring challenges for the sake of bringing challenges, but you want to bring challenges for our debate, which is different, and if you are so my life, my latest Adobe stocks talked about how we can bring our inner inner diplomat skills.
0:54:50.90 --> 0:54:52.380
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm, very interesting.
0:54:52.390 --> 0:54:53.360
Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah. Umm.
0:54:55.290 --> 0:54:55.520
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:54:50.150 --> 0:54:56.70
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Uh, and I think it's it's, it's really the thing how you can be diplomatic, family.
0:54:56.800 --> 0:54:57.130
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
0:54:56.580 --> 0:54:59.370
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So then it's like a negotiation network.
0:54:58.580 --> 0:55:0.370
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm. Umm.
0:54:59.660 --> 0:55:0.630
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So then, nobody.
0:55:0.690 --> 0:55:1.740
My Holland | EQuest Asia
Nobody's losing it.
0:55:2.860 --> 0:55:3.100
Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
0:55:2.980 --> 0:55:5.640
My Holland | EQuest Asia
So it's not a bad negative emotion from their side.
0:55:6.180 --> 0:55:6.400
Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah.
0:55:6.850 --> 0:55:14.390
My Holland | EQuest Asia
It's more about disagreement that they don't understand why you don't think like like them, because it's different generation.
0:55:15.190 --> 0:55:21.260
My Holland | EQuest Asia
UM, so that is disagreement for you is negative, but for them for them they say.
0:55:21.610 --> 0:55:25.260
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I don't understand why this young generation doesn't think like us.
0:55:31.820 --> 0:55:32.60
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:55:25.830 --> 0:55:41.90
My Holland | EQuest Asia
OK, so that gap is and exist will always exist, so the to key word is try to be to have an open communication and I'm telling and not telling you is easy.
0:55:42.490 --> 0:55:43.210
Christopher Denis Delacour
Getting on, yeah.
0:55:44.170 --> 0:55:45.10
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm it?
0:55:41.100 --> 0:55:47.730
My Holland | EQuest Asia
I haven't told you that, but I'm telling you that it's it's a working process.
0:55:49.170 --> 0:55:49.550
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:55:54.150 --> 0:55:54.460
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
0:55:47.740 --> 0:55:57.70
My Holland | EQuest Asia
If in and that process you have to to nurture it, so it's not a one off conversation, it's paving the way paving the way.
0:56:3.700 --> 0:56:3.980
Christopher Denis Delacour
Umm.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
So, so you know the family accept this and overview, which is not challenging their views.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Yeah.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
Your view is different and that's OK that is more than I like your view or I don't like the view.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
That's not the point.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Hmm.
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My Holland | EQuest Asia
You know, if you if they say I understand your view and I accept it, that's very different from our like you use and that is already a big a big a big marstone.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
OK.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Thank you, me and I'm glad the guys you you discuss about this because we are in a specific context and if you choose this first session for your self reflection, obviously you will need to assess the concept of happiness in the Vietnamese society, a society which is changing quite fast.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
You have an example with me, Holland, that discuss the concepts, but don't forget to tell you that the let's say the weight of the family and the counter is still important.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Finding passion depends on the culture and your own environment too.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
Uh, that mean example liberal family is more open, less open conservatives, countries, etcetera, etcetera.
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Christopher Denis Delacour
So it's good you discuss that."