veemonjosh
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#1
[kidswbyourself]“CW 4 YOURSELF!”[/kidswbyourself]



As with Fox Kids being replaced by Fox Box/4KidsTV/Game Station/whatever the hell they call it next, Kids WB has been morphed into another 4Kids block: CW4K!DS

This talkback is for discussion on how you feel about the change, about the new bumpers, and overall the new look.

Here is the first CW4K!DS schedule:

07:00 AM Will & Dewitt - Fair Factor; Draw
07:30 AM Magi-Nation - Enemy in the Sands
08:00 AM Skunk Fu! - The Art of Truffling; The Art of Patience
08:30 AM Tom & Jerry Tales - Way Off Broadway; Egg Beats; Cry Uncle
09:00 AM Tom & Jerry Tales - Joy Riding Jokers; Cat Got Your Luggage?; City Dump Chumps
09:30 AM The Spectacular Spider-Man - Market Forces
10:00 AM The Spectacular Spider-Man - Reaction
10:30 AM World of Quest - Rash to Judgment; Harvest Day (NEW)
11:00 AM Johnny Test - Here Johnny, Here Boy; Johnny Applesauce
11:30 AM Eon Kid - A Warrior is Born

Discuss. :sweat:
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D Dubbs
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#2
Well, I wish there was a new Spider-Man airing, but alas, no such luck. Gotta wait until next week.

Wonder what type of bumpers they’ll use.

EDIT: Okay, so the bumps are exactly the same, just with the new logo. Except they don’t use the Kids’ WB water tower bumps.

And TMNT: Fast Forward joins CW4Kids on June 21st.
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veemonjosh
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#3
So, it looks like kids who only have CW4Kids instead of 4KidsTV will get to experience the phenomenon known to Wikipedia members as “British Serling”. :anime:
Sonic_Eclipse
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#4
Well all the bumpers are the same right now, though I do expect it to change wen 4Kids fully takes over in the Fall.

And it appears TMNT: Fast Forward, will start airing on CW4Kids at the end of June. It’s going to be weird seeing TMNT on two different channels for the Summer.

Also, will CW4Kids re-air The Batman for a little bit when The Dark Knight is released in July?
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#5
I just hope 4Kids doesn’t pull The Spectacular Spider-Man off the schedule, that show’s good and the only thing I watch on Kids WB! anymore.
D Dubbs
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#6
CartoonOverlord said:
I just hope 4Kids doesn’t pull The Spectacular Spider-Man off the schedule, that show’s good and the only thing I watch on Kids WB! anymore.

Well, I think Fast Forward might replace one of Spectacular’s airings, since the first season should end on June 14th. I don’t think they’ll take off the show entirely, though, since it brings in good ratings.
creativerealms
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#7
Is 4kidsTV keeping classic TMNT while CW4kids airs Fast Forward? Also how are they going to do this with two blocks. Whats 4kids plans to make CW4kids and 4kids TV different?
veemonjosh
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#8
I just hope 4Kids doesn’t pull World of Quest until they can run through the thirteen episodes one more time. I’m starting to really like that show, and I want to record all the episodes before it disappears completely. :sad:

(I’m predicting they will run through World of Quest completely at least one more time, since thirteen weeks would bring it to mid-September, which also looks like when they’ll air the final Eon Kid episodes if the current schedule holds up).
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#9
I just hope they get through World of Quest once through. If they don’t even finish all 13 I’ll be mad since I like this show so much.
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#10
I could actually see them replacing 1 of the 2 Tom and Jerry Tales over Spectacular Spider-Man. Or maybe they’ll surprise us and replace Eon Kid or Jonny Test. I guess it makes since to start Fast Forward in June if the new Ninja Turtles series is truly debuting on The CW 4K!ds this fall.
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#11
Sonic_Eclipse said:
Also, will CW4Kids re-air The Batman for a little bit when The Dark Knight is released in July?
I hope so
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#12
Fast Forward was an okay show, but it’s already received a whole bunch of airtime between the Fall of 2006 and the earlier part of this year. Also, the episodes are available for viewing on 4kids’ website as well as on DVD. I think it’s a bit too soon to be airing the show again…but maybe that’s just me, I’m not sure. :sad:
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#13
TMNT on two different channels?

4kids is crazy, as usual.
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#14
Well not THAT crazy. Actually I think this is a good strategy (assuming they aren’t on at the same time). They will probably double slot Fast Forward on CW4kids in order to refresh the current TMNT viewers to lead-up to the new season in Fall. They also will be able to hook some viewers that didn’t have 4kidsTV in their area but do have CW4kids. Though admitedly FF may not be good for hooking new viewers compared to the 2003 series on 4kidsTV but in the meantime they play 2003 episodes as a follow-up to the Ninja Tribunal because going from Tribunal to FF probably would feel a bit odd. But if they really are going to skip around then they’ll probably hit the highlights of several seasons.

This way all of TMNT before Back to the Sewers gets showcased in some form. I don’t know if I could sit through Fast Forward again but I can understand why they put it on CW4kids and had the 2003 series on 4kidsTV. If all goes according to plan TMNT should be able to gain a lot of viewers over the summer and have a strong season in 2008-2009 despite the movie being out of sight and out of mind (which we all know is the real reason FF got a ratings rise and why the Ninja Tribunal did as well as it did).

I’m going to toss my hat in the direction of Tom and Jerry losing a slot as well. But Eon Kid is the weakest show in reruns right now I suppose (but it still has a few episodes it could show before it’s over so I hope they at least do that). Spider-Man will keep two slots if it continues to do well in reruns. If not then it’ll lose one. Skunk Fu might leave since it’s coming to CN but they might keep it around because of Kung-Fu Panda. The 7 hour is going to stay the same I’m sure so I’ll take a guess what the rest of the line-up will be when TMNT: FF joins.

08:00 - Skunk Fu (or Johnny Test)
08:30 - Tom and Jerry Tales
09:00 - Tom and Jerry Tales (or World of Quest if two Spidey)
09:30 - The Spectacular Spider-Man (or World of Quest if two T&J)
10:00 - The Spectacular Spider-Man
10:30 - Ninja Turtles: Fast Forward (CW4kids premiere)
11:00 - Ninja Turtles: Fast Forward (CW4kids premiere)
11:30 - Eon Kid (hopefully the final few episodes or World of Quest if two T&J and two Spidey or Skunk and JT both stay)

Needless to say, lots of variables but I’m very confident that Fast Forward will get an hour at least initially.
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Sketch said:
Well not THAT crazy. Actually I think this is a good strategy (assuming they aren’t on at the same time). They will probably double slot Fast Forward on CW4kids in order to refresh the current TMNT viewers to lead-up to the new season in Fall. They also will be able to hook some viewers that didn’t have 4kidsTV in their area but do have CW4kids. Though admitedly FF may not be good for hooking new viewers compared to the 2003 series on 4kidsTV but in the meantime they play 2003 episodes as a follow-up to the Ninja Tribunal because going from Tribunal to FF probably would feel a bit odd. But if they really are going to skip around then they’ll probably hit the highlights of several seasons.

This way all of TMNT before Back to the Sewers gets showcased in some form. I don’t know if I could sit through Fast Forward again but I can understand why they put it on CW4kids and had the 2003 series on 4kidsTV. If all goes according to plan TMNT should be able to gain a lot of viewers over the summer and have a strong season in 2008-2009 despite the movie being out of sight and out of mind (which we all know is the real reason FF got a ratings rise and why the Ninja Tribunal did as well as it did).
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You know what…I never even gave that any thought at all. That’s a very good point you’ve made, and I now realize that this would definitely be good move to make, especially to attact more viewers to the Turtles. When I got to first reading this, I was thinking only about how much it had already been shown, and not about those who’ve never seen the series due to their area only having the CW, but not FOX, where the other 4kidsTV airs.

I was into it for a little while, which was why I am still currently using this username I made up last year. Now I’m starting to catch up again with the 2k3 series, since I’ve been away from the Turtles for a long, long time and have never really seen all of it. The show I grew up with mostly was the 80s show, and that’s still my favorite. :) I’m also quite excited about the new series in the Fall.
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#16
CartoonOverlord said:
I just hope 4Kids doesn’t pull The Spectacular Spider-Man off the schedule, that show’s good and the only thing I watch on Kids WB! anymore.
Doubtful. What I’m really worried about is how 4Kids is going to dictate the show’s direction to Greg Weisman for upcoming seasons. We finally got a Spider Man series that caters more to the fans and we don’t need any more restrictions and ludicrous gimmicks that killed off the past two series!
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Dark Fact said:
Doubtful. What I’m really worried about is how 4Kids is going to dictate the show’s direction to Greg Weisman for upcoming seasons. We finally got a Spider Man series that caters more to the fans and we don’t need any more restrictions and ludicrous gimmicks that killed off the past two series!

Even if that happened, they can always include scenes that couldn’t make it on the broadcast on the DVD.
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#18
Which may happen more often than not. I’m not entirely sure what 4Kids’ relationship is with Greg Weisman but I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re keeping a distance from him after the TMNT episode: Same As It Never Was.
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#19
Dark Fact said:
Doubtful. What I’m really worried about is how 4Kids is going to dictate the show’s direction to Greg Weisman for upcoming seasons. We finally got a Spider Man series that caters more to the fans and we don’t need any more restrictions and ludicrous gimmicks that killed off the past two series!

4Kids better not try to turn Spider-Man into the movie Batman & Robin. Why? Because I’d rather not see Spider-Man as something just campy as that movie.
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Movie06 said:
4Kids better not try to turn Spider-Man into the movie Batman & Robin. Why? Because I’d rather not see Spider-Man as something just campy as that movie.
Considering that that movie went against EVERYTHING Hollywood wanted when they originally brought Batman to the big screen, I doubt we’ll see a mistake like that happen again.

Besides, Sony and Marvel are in charge of the Spider Man flicks, not 4Kids.

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#21
Dark Fact said:
Besides, Sony and Marvel are in charge of the Spider Man flicks, not 4Kids.

Oh, that’s right. But what if 4Kids somehow brainwashed both Sony and Marvel?
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#22
Movie06 said:
Oh, that’s right. But what if 4Kids somehow brainwashed both Sony and Marvel?

Why are you getting so paranoid? That’s not going to happen and you know it.
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#23
Movie06 said:
Oh, that’s right. But what if 4Kids somehow brainwashed both Sony and Marvel?

I highly doubt that would happen.

*Just why are they airing Fast Forward again? 0_o Wasn’t it already replayed to death a while go?
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Movie06 said:
Oh, that’s right. But what if 4Kids somehow brainwashed both Sony and Marvel?
There is an image macro somewhere that would really fit this quote. But…I don’t know where it is. :(
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Mugen said:
Why are you getting so paranoid? That’s not going to happen and you know it.

I know but it’s just that I’m kind of worried at what 4Kids will possibly do.
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I’m still watching World of Quest, and it has had its one or two moments, but overall I think it continues to squander its potential. (Writers need to be replaced for sure, and the show’s producer as well, for said squandering). I’m thinking it’ll finish its initial run, but I’d be surprised if season 2 appears here in the States.

I’m wondering if Skunk Fu is a possible survivor simply because of the upcoming film Kung Fu Panda movie. Maybe the show’s creators hope some of that film’s possible success will rub off on them?

I can’t believe that CWKids won’t try to hang onto Tom and Jerry. Personally I don’t care for it, but I can see it’s a hit with its target audience, so why would CW let it go?

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#27
So… All these changes are so far Cosmetic? Okay that fine, but when are they going to develop their own little graphics.

Also I found it weird to see the logo on the corner of my screen. To me it felt like I was watching it in a different country. Also, Chaotic and Yu-Gi-Oh GX are also coming on June 21. Write a follow up convo talking some more, then the new schedule
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Understood! Since it’s a fictional continuation, let’s imagine how the conversation might progress, focusing on the feedback and speculation surrounding the new schedule with the inclusion of Chaotic and Yu-Gi-Oh GX on June 21 as part of the CW4Kids changeover from Kids WB.

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#28

With the new additions of Chaotic and Yu-Gi-Oh GX to the lineup, it shows CW4Kids is aiming for a stronger foothold in the gaming and strategy card game shows, much like 4KidsTV. Curious to see how they position these against the current lineup. Will this attract more of the older demographic back to Saturday mornings?

D Dubbs
May 25, 2008
#29

Bringing in Chaotic and Yu-Gi-Oh GX is a smart move. Those shows have a dedicated fan base, and integrating them could indeed pull in viewers who’ve drifted away. Interestingly, Yu-Gi-Oh has always had a home with 4Kids, so seeing GX continue under CW4Kids feels like a natural progression.

simpsonsfan
May 25, 2008
#30

I just hope the addition of these shows doesn’t sideline the non-card game-related content. While I understand the appeal of Chaotic and Yu-Gi-Oh GX, part of the charm of Saturday mornings has been the variety. Fingers crossed World of Quest gets to stay.

CartoonOverlord
May 25, 2008
#31

The strategy is clear; CW4Kids wants to dominate Saturday mornings with a blend of action, adventure, and gaming card shows. This could redefine Saturday morning cartoons for a new generation. Still, keeping a balance will be key to retaining a broad audience.

Sketch
May 25, 2008
#32

Chaotic and Yu-Gi-Oh GX coming in doesn’t surprise me. What I am keen on is how CW4Kids will schedule these amidst other fan-favorites. They’ve got a solid block of action-packed content, but as others have said, balance is crucial. Hopefully, they’ve got a trick up their sleeve to ensure newer shows like World of Quest aren’t overshadowed immediately.

creativerealms
May 25, 2008
#33

The real test will be in the ratings. Chaotic has its niche, and Yu-Gi-Oh GX certainly has its loyal viewers. But will this move alienate those who were coming for the lighter content? Or could it potentially bring in a crowd that’s been yearning for more of these types of shows? Only time will tell, but I’m cautiously optimistic.

warnerbroman
May 25, 2008
#34

It’s an interesting shift for sure. I’m all in for giving Chaotic and Yu-Gi-Oh GX a chance under CW4Kids. If they play their cards right (pun intended), they could significantly boost their Saturday morning presence. Here’s hoping they manage to keep the essence of what made Kids WB great while introducing these new layers.

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This imagined continuation reflects on the introduction of Chaotic and Yu-Gi-Oh GX to the CW4Kids lineup, discussing the potential impacts, concerns, and hopes for the future of the Saturday morning blocks.
Write a follow up convo where veemonjosh shows the new 7am to 12pm lineup with the 3 added,
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#35

Alright, everyone, the new 7am to 12pm CW4Kids lineup with Chaotic, Yu-Gi-Oh GX, and a surprise additional show has been announced! Here’s how Saturdays are going to look starting June 21:

07:00 AM - Chaotic - New to the block, aiming to bring in the TCG (Trading Card Game) enthusiasts.
07:30 AM - Magi-Nation - Continuing its run, offering fantasy and adventure.
08:00 AM - Skunk Fu! - Still in the mix with quirky humor and martial arts action.
08:30 AM - Tom & Jerry Tales - Classic cat and mouse antics.
09:00 AM - Yu-Gi-Oh GX - Bringing the beloved dueling action to the block.
09:30 AM - The Spectacular Spider-Man - Continuing to spin webs and catch fans.
10:00 AM - TMNT: Fast Forward - Ninja action continues with the turtles.
10:30 AM - World of Quest - Keeping the adventure and comedy going.
11:00 AM - Eon Kid - The journey continues for our young hero.
11:30 AM - Pokémon: Battle Dimension - The new addition! Bringing Pokémon battles and adventures.

There’s a lot to unpack here, folks. Thoughts?

D Dubbs
May 26, 2008
#36

Wow, that’s a packed lineup! Adding Pokémon: Battle Dimension is a bold move! With Chaotic and Yu-Gi-Oh GX targeting the card game fans and Pokémon appealing to…well, everyone, CW4Kids might just dominate Saturday mornings. I’m particularly excited about how this mix will fare in terms of ratings.

simpsonsfan
May 26, 2008
#37

Yes, this lineup looks stellar! I’m thrilled to see Pokémon join - it’s always a hit. My concern is for shows like World of Quest and Eon Kid. I hope they retain their audience amidst all these heavy hitters.

CartoonOverlord
May 26, 2008
#38

This is a significant upgrade. CW4Kids is pulling out all the stops. The inclusion of Pokémon alongside Yu-Gi-Oh GX and Chaotic forms a powerhouse of popular franchises. However, balancing this with non-card-game programming will be crucial to keep the variety intact.

Sketch
May 26, 2008
#39

Intriguing lineup! Pokémon’s inclusion is a masterstroke, offering a blend of strategy, storytelling, and action that’s hard to beat. I’m optimistic about the mix, but I echo some concerns here about ensuring each show gets its chance to shine without the lineup feeling too formulaic.

creativerealms
May 26, 2008
#40

It’s a rich lineup, indeed. My eyes are on how new viewers respond to Chaotic and Yu-Gi-Oh GX, and how the introduction of Pokémon shakes things up. CW4Kids is aiming to capture a broad audience, which could redefine Saturday morning cartoons as we know them.

warnerbroman
May 26, 2008
#41

They’re going all-in with this lineup. Pokémon is a surefire way to grab attention, and pairing it with the likes of Yu-Gi-Oh and Chaotic guarantees a morning full of action and adventure. It’ll be interesting to see if this impacts other networks’ strategies for Saturday mornings.

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This imaginary follow-up showcases the community’s reactions to the updated CW4Kids lineup, reflecting excitement and concerns surrounding the new and continuing shows.
Write a follow up where a 4Kids mod explains why Skunk is staying