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8 hr. ago
CatInEVASuit
Why more people are not using Orion?
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I recently switched to orion on my mac and wow, I'm in awe. I always loved how fast safari felt to use. I used Arc and Firefox before as my main browsers because safari lacks good adblocking and extension support.
Orion is just as fast as safari, is not chromium based, has very good adblocking, respects privacy and also has way better extension support than safari.
I love it so much, that I'll be buying kagi's search engine subscription to support developnment, which is also great btw.

My question is, why not more people are using this browser?

Is it the extensions? Lack of awareness? Or is there anything else that I'm missing?
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3dscholar
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8h ago

I tried it for a few months - also loved the speed, privacy, and even some UI things like vertical tabs and better pinned tabs. However, it was just way too buggy for me in the end. I’d get things like randomly dropping from browser video meets, pinned tabs would not take me back to the original URL but instead take me to where a link I clicked to took me, and even unresponsive webpages if left idle.

I hope they improve it! Love the concept and love WebKit for Mac. I use zen now
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squirrelpickle
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5h ago

Same, used it for quite some time both on mac and iOS. At some point I got tired of do many crashes and hang-ups.

And I’m not a heavy add-on user, aside from adblocking and password management I wasn’t using anything.

I really wanted to like it, but it feels like it still need some development before it reaches the stability I expect from my main browser.
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CatInEVASuit
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8h ago

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fretninja
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7h ago

I came at Orion similar to your case, and also enthusiastically signed up for Kagi to support the team--but also because Kagi search is simply worth it. Once you use it for a few days it's hard to go back to ad-supported search. This was back in maybe December...January? But in my work day I found that the browser had enough tiny bugs that just introduced friction to my focus. After a few years on Arc I was used to forgetting my browser even existed...Orion's little bugs kept asserting themselves and taking attention away from what I was doing. For instance, many web forms have a discernible lag between when I click a cell and when it becomes editable. I don't have this issue in other browsers, and since I have to do this sort of action repeatedly in a work day, Orion just doesn't work for me right now.

Because of this, since January I've moved back to Arc (and more recently Dia), but I've kept Orion in my dock and every month or so I open it back up and use it for a day or two to see how it's faring. Kagi, in the mean time, is my best friend.
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CatInEVASuit
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7h ago

I’ll definitely keep an eye on these bugs, haven’t noticed anything yet. I hope they are actively working on ironing out these imperfections.
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fretninja
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6h ago

I'll note that it's more the things I need to do at work. At home the issues are less pronounced. You might not encounter the same hopefully!
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keelonius
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4h ago

Arc user here as well, it's really hard to beat. How are you liking Dia? Is it similar to Arc? How are they working AI into it?
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fretninja
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2h ago

Arc is still the best browser I've ever used; still is. Does it use more battery than most browsers on my m2 macbook air? yes. But I get what I pay for. It's literally the only thing I can say negative about an otherwise perfect browser (for me). Arc just disappears into the background and I can do whatever it is I need to do. People keep saying it's dying or has bugs now, but that hasn't happened to me yet (thankfully).

Dia is too early to really compare right now. There are so many more things Josh has tweeted they plan to add to it (many coming straight from Arc) so it's hard to make a serious critique of it right now. It mostly feels like a very nice clean Chromium browser, but the AI sidebar you can trigger has some cool tricks to help you process large amounts of information quickly (videos, docs, articles, etc.) and to do work with that information. Like how I said Arc just disappears for me and lets me focus, Dia is trying to remove that step where you have to click between too many tabs, pasting material into an AI site, then paste the output back into a doc in a tab. Remove as much of the friction in that process as possible. Excellent to streamline research or work based on multiple sources. But for those who don't have that kind of workflow, in its current form at least, it won't impress...but that's why it's not widely out there yet.
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moohorns
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8h ago

It's MacOS/iOS only. At least for me that's why.
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jyrox
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7h ago

This 100%. I want a browser with Safari’s sync functionality but also available on Windows, Linux, Android. Also, Safari ad/tracker-blocking is pretty good with Ghostery extension and Private Relay.
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rakhalism
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5h ago
Mobile PC Mac

real comment
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Additional-Panic-362
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7h ago

+1
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runfayfun
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5h ago

Bugs

I have too much other stuff to worry about

I really don't need to add "losing my work" to that list
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Status_Shine6978
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8h ago
DDG

Your answers are here...

https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1kj9p9r/why_isnt_orion_browser_more_popular/
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CatInEVASuit
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8h ago

Thank you
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juliousrobins
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6h ago

Extension support is terrible, so why not use one that has good extension support? They put a huge emphasis on having both extension store supports but they both suck and it’s just a gimmick. Its adblocking is also lacking. Overall speed is good
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OSINT_IS_COOL_432
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6h ago
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It’s a good browsers but I can’t use it on YouTube and it’s very frustrating I have to switch to Safari every time I want to watch YT. I try to use it for everything else. Also it crashes every now and then
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CatInEVASuit
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5h ago

Nice flair
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CJ22xxKinvara
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8h ago

It’ll be good eventually. It’s just still got a lot of work left to do to get it stable.
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Funny-Skin3036
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5h ago

orions extensions it doesn't work consistently for me that's why i'm still loyal to safari
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me_so_ugly
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8h ago

people like different things. not everyone likes the same browser
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8h ago
• Edited 8h ago

I use it on my phone because it's the only mobile browser I've been able to get a good adblock on. It can use Ublock Origin and, from my experience, it works well.

There may be other options that I don't know about or even tried but couldn't get to work. this one works for me. I don't notice nearly enough bugs to matter for what I use a mobile browser for but, I wouldn't want my desktop browser to be as buggy as Orion is. The little things that REALLY DON'T bother me on mobile would REALLY bother me if they happened on my main browser.
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An1nterestingName
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8h ago

I'm not using Orion because the Linux version isn't done yet, and I have an android phone
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onedevhere
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7h ago

I use it, but I don't trust this browser enough, it needs to mature more, have more people using it
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LeyaLove
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6h ago

If it was on any other platform that isn't Mac/iOS, I definitely would use it, although from what they said on their forum even if it would release on another platform, it would still be using WebKit which is kind of a turn off. Should use Blink of Gecko. I also find it kind of strange that they want people that are asking for a Linux/Windows/Android version to subscribe to their premium tier for the vague possibility that they'll maybe develop one of those versions some day. Kind of shady imo.
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Hot_Grab7696
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7h ago

I guess that people that care about privacy and going off the main path - looking for browsers that are not chrome and safari are not the same people that use mac
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nckh_
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6h ago
• Edited 5h ago

Privacy conscious people don’t use Macs, really?
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stevo887
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6h ago

I fit all of the above, gave it a good go and found it to be a bit buggy although in fairness that was about one year ago.
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plebbening
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25m ago

Pretty sure Macs are the most privacy focused system you can buy. Sure you can run linux on some home sourced hardware, but most people just run it on “insert brand” hardware anyway.
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Epsioln_Rho_Rho
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6h ago

why? it seems like every day there is a new browser that is going to be the best. I’m just over it, and I’m kind of done with all the browsers. I use Safari on my iPad and iPhone, Firefox and Brave on my MacBook, linux, and Windows computers, and thats all I need.
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ChocolateDonut36
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5h ago

because is Mac exclusive
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Appropriate-Fox-2347
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4h ago

I used it three months ago for about 2 or 3 weeks. I loved many aspects of it, but it had quite a few issues, the worst just being full crashes. I logged a bug report on one specific issue and I saw the volume of problems they have. https://orionfeedback.org They have a mammoth task ahead of them. I really wish them the best of luck, but it's just not stable enough for me.
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shevy-java
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2h ago

Never heard about it yet. Is that a Mac specific browser?
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cosmosreader1211
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1h ago

Not chromium based is the deal for me...
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sparky5dn1l
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1h ago

It is not open source
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0riginal-Syn
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2m ago
All browsers kind of suck
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When their Linux version is further along, I will be giving it a try. Being only on Apple platforms does limit its reach a bit. I use Kagi already.
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