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hype_irion
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10h ago

Yes, nothing would make me buy a mac faster than using windows 11
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net___runner
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7h ago

You win.
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JustCallMeJoker
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5h ago

Get this guy a job in marketing at Apple.
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SalukiKnightX
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4h ago

Having used Windows (I think they were using 10, also the less said of Teams the better) for work only made me appreciate my Mac even more.
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Erik0xff0000
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4h ago

I'm so amused when people say linux requires constant tinkering, but the past few years I find myself having to tinker with windows setup a lot more than linux/macOS. I regret buying a mini-pc running windows 11, I should have gotten a Mac mini. it would have been worth the money.
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LazarX
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4h ago

I've used all three platforms for about thirty years now, and pretty much none required more particular care than others, all have matured a lot since those early decades.
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Senkyou
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3h ago

No, no. None of that. Can't be objective like that.
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kyonkun_denwa
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2h ago
16" MBP M2 Pro | Beige G3 Desktop | Mac IIsi

I honestly find Linux is still a little bit too bitchy for my tastes. But desktop Linux has come a long, long way since I tried my first Knoppix Live CD in 2004.
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KingBenjaminAZ
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1h ago

LOL that’s like saying “Hey, this Toyota is faster than Ferrari’s ebike!” So fvcking dumb, since when is the MacBook Air the flagship Mac for performance? (To the Windodos, the MacBook Pro is the flagship laptop from Apple)
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Abi1i
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3h ago
rMBP 15" Mid-2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d2DQF6fLgk
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FeverTreeCloud
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10h ago

Once you try Apple Silicon, you can never go back to Windows PC
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Mrikoko
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7h ago

Windows is only solid for games, it is terrible for anything else.
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WhereSoDreamsGo
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7h ago

I much more prefer office productivity on windows than my Mac. However the CX on a Mac is superior
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GiftFrosty
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7h ago

I run the office suite and notepad++ in a VM. Otherwise I prefer my macOS. 

The file system / finder could be a little more intuitive. 
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Ciwan1859
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7h ago

I thought MS Office existed natively for MacOS?
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Dave_OB
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3h ago

It does but it's not a fun experience. Looking at you, Excel, with your stupid floating menus.

I have a licensed copy of MS Office for when I need 100% compatibility - usually for work - but I use LibreOffice for all my personal stuff.
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Byakko2000
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6h ago

It does but is not as robust as the PC version. And yes, I run both.
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nichijouuuu
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6h ago

You can do nearly everything in a browser nowadays, especially stuff like office365, sharepoint, etc.
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melancious
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4h ago
MacBook Pro M1 Pro

Don't forget the completely free office suite from Apple.
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nichijouuuu
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3h ago

🤦 I never suggested these things were free. I didn’t use or need them on my m4 Mac mini. Just suggesting they are available and usable on a Mac device and that reason alone is not a showstopper for making the jump from windows to a Mac…
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melancious
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3h ago
MacBook Pro M1 Pro

What? What are you even talking about? I’m talking about Pages, Numbers etc.
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escargot3
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3h ago

You cannot do the stuff in excel that people need the windows version of excel for in a browser, no
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DoctorRyner
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5h ago
Mac Studio

Why would use a VM for shitty editor like notepad++? It does nothing better than Visual Studio Code. It's also not really a flex for OGs, because vim users will laugh in such a case.
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wasteplease
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7h ago

Have you tried BBEdit? It’s my preferred text editor on any platform
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Funny_Papers
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7h ago

Excel is a big one too unfortunately. Maybe one day though
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utopicunicornn
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5h ago
MacBook Pro

Using an Apple Silicon machine has made me hate my old Lenovo ThinkPad even more, that Intel chipset ran way too hot for the level of performance it has. It’s literally a space heater since it makes my room a few degrees warmer and I live somewhere where we get more warm days than colder ones. Also, the battery life on that ThinkPad hasn’t really been the greatest, I usually get around 4-5 hours of battery life and that’s when it was brand new.

Meanwhile, my M4 MacBook Pro has the most insane battery life and performance is really amazing, it gets me through the day on a single charge, and it has made me love Macs again.

The only downside is my M4 MacBook Pro runs too cool to be a space heater lol
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kyonkun_denwa
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2h ago
16" MBP M2 Pro | Beige G3 Desktop | Mac IIsi

To be honest, I loved my Thinkpad. I had a T500 and I think that was, adjusting for technology of the time, the best computer I've ever owned and will ever own. I like my Mac but it's not nearly as open or easy to work on as the Thinkpad was. Also, the Thinkpad had a shitload of ports and expandability. I could remove the battery. I was able to swap out the CD drive for a second hard drive. I was even able to add USB 3.0 to it with an Express card. The Core2Duo ran pretty cool. And that keyboard... great stuff. Oh, and I dropped it down a flight of stairs, and drove off with it on the roof of my car, and both times it survived with just a few scratches. Overall it was a GOAT computer. Like yeah of course the modern MacBook Pro is better in terms of raw performance, but that Thinkpad had some amazing engineering behind it.
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Marino4K
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4h ago
MBA M4 24/512

I don’t know how anyone can use Windows now outside of gamers and workplaces that have no choice. It’s an ad infested bloatware mess.
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koolaidismything
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9h ago
MacBook Air

Old shittily patched legacy software only alive from ubiquity. macOS can be boring but atleast it feels higher end.
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Street_Classroom1271
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7h ago

boring? What on earth are y9u talking ab9ut
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koolaidismything
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7h ago
MacBook Air

How did your o key work the first two times then that?

I mean like in the sense of if you’re coming from Windows it’s way more locked down and that’s kinda jarring for tinkerers. I got used to it pretty quick but I know some people can’t shake it and end up going back.
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Street_Classroom1271
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7h ago

    it’s way more locked down and that’s kinda jarring for tinkerers

I don't understand this. In what way do you mean?
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xxwarlorddarkdoomxx
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9h ago

Windows comparing itself this way to a company that has 5x less market share is a good sign for Apple and a bad sign for Microsoft.
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CelestOutlaw
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9h ago

Yes, the Snapdragon X Elite is faster than the M3 or M4 in some benchmarks, especially in terms of pure CPU multi-core performance.But no, it’s not consistently superior. When it comes to graphics performance, app compatibility and single-core speed, it falls behind Apple.Overall? A respectable achievement for Qualcomm but Apple still offers the more well-rounded system today.

And as for performance per watt or battery life, let’s not even go there. Apple is miles ahead.
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fortyonejb
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9h ago

The only thing Windows still has going for it is raw GPU power when using GPU cards. That assumes you're staying traditional as well.
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ElBarbas
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8h ago

cuda is the only reason I have a working windows machine
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Street_Classroom1271
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7h ago

M3 Ultra has more than enough performance to keep up with top end discrete cards. And some other capabilities that they can't match at all
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fortyonejb
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6h ago

Unfortunately while the M3 ultra lands between the RTX 5070 and 5080, if you're gaming, the M3 is worthless.
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WalrusWildinOut96
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8h ago

For my workflow, being in the Mac ecosystem has made me more productive with my hobbies than ever before. Such a smooth system and the cpu is so efficient.
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SGTemp1
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8h ago

They don’t even have the balls to compare it to M4

LMAO
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ZealousidealFruit386
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9h ago

And 5 years behind on software and integrated services that work seamlessly.
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motram
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6h ago

This is the big thing. All my life I have used windows, and I still use it for gaming, but the M series laptops are just so much better than Windows laptops. Artificial benchmarks can say what they want, but my M1 base model MacBook Air still launches apps faster than Windows does, and I can reliably count on it to always have a battery charge, which you can't for windows.
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SameExperience5973
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5h ago

i dont even want to imagine doing my work (photoshop and illustrator mainly) on a windows computer ever again lmao
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Elegant_Ad1397
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5h ago

5 years? You're being too generous. They can't even follow their own standards in windows alone.
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msc1974
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10h ago

A Mac M3 not an M4 - they are only a year behind Apple (at least).
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BoomerSoonerFUT
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2h ago

A Macbook Air M3 at that. Which is a year old base chip that's already throttled at peak load (like benchmarks) without active cooling like the Pro has.
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SeaSDOptimist
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8h ago

From the people that brought you the iPhone funeral, 15 years ago. Ok.
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Street_Classroom1271
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7h ago

mentionuing a competitor by name is a sure sign of desparatiion. Apple must be making real inroads
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NeitherAd5083
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7h ago

What year Mac? 2006? 2009? Definitely not modern ones.
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TEDCOR
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7h ago

Microsoft’s new stuff is faster than competitors old stuff….ok
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Nate8727
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10h ago

Wait let us update first then we'll show you...
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iloveeatinglettuce
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6h ago

Faster at giving people a reason to actually buy a Mac.
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bobthenob1989
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9h ago

Sure, Jan.
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SimilarToed
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7h ago

Yeah, MS is fast, all right. Fast at running down a laptop battery to a permanent 2 hours of battery life. WTF is with that?
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NavyPirate
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3h ago

An Apple a day, keeps Windows away!
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ohaiibuzzle
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2h ago
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Yep, they are faster than a Mac

At shoving ads.

Seriously, how is it acceptable that you get ads in the out of box experience on your $2000 gaming laptop.
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lw5555
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7h ago

We're doing this again?
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void_const
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6h ago

Even if this were true, Windows is ad-ridden garbage
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Clessiah
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6h ago
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If it's that apparent, they wouldn't have to yell at people to try to convince them.
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KNIGHTFALLx
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9h ago

Micro$ost says a lot of dumb shit lol
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ObjectionablyObvious
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9h ago

Their CoPilot+PC is such fucking bullshit ass marketing, what dickhead came up with that
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ooninay
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8h ago

“Co-pilot + PC”: seriously, “pilot”? Who ever compares, or would want to compare, using a computer to flying a plane? And the term “co-pilot” specifically, implies to me that I won’t be able to “pilot” the PC by myself.
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Bryanmsi89
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9h ago

Unless those PC machines are Snapdragon, they are only capable of this performance when on mains power. On battery, x86 chips lose a lot of performance, where Apple maintains its performance.
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DrunkenGerbils
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8h ago

It’s for their new ARM laptops that do indeed use Snapdragon chips. It’s still marketing fluff though, it’s referencing a set of narrow benchmarks as opposed to overall performance and there’s a reason the ad doesn’t compare the battery life to the M series Macs. Not to mention they run Windows for ARM so they aren’t even compatible with a lot of the software people put up with Windows for.
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candylandmine
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8h ago

I mean my M4 Pro runs Windows 11 pretty nicely in Parallels but I’m not about to make it my main OS.
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RootVegitible
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8h ago

a) they are only measuring cpu .. b) measuring against M3 when Apple has moved onto M4 … Microsoft’s info is rubbish, surprise…
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WesFL
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7h ago

They are doing better with both hardware and software. That said, no way it’s in the same category as a M4 air or Pro.
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wasteplease
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7h ago

Does the windows PC need to be plugged in? I hate that my work laptop has bad battery life and goes slower when it’s not plugged into power.
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thedarph
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5h ago

Sounds like a bad move going back to competing on specs. It’s not the 90s anymore. There’s a small set of power users that need processing speed but most people want a snappy, intuitive, fun experience that doesn’t feel bloated. I wouldn’t switch to Windows if their hardware were faster. In fact, I’m sure a lot of PCs out there are faster than a Mac.

Speed is not the thing though. I think Apple does a good job of making sure the focus is really on what you do on a Mac rather than just “computer fast, bigger number good”. Like I said, this isn’t the 90s when everyone was looking at the numbers on the processors and choosing based on that.
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jafarjones69
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4h ago
MacBook Air

Once you go Mac, you can’t go back.
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sondersHo
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8h ago

That’s a damn lie Microsoft can’t even say this with a straight face windows solely the reason I’m currently even using Mac currently my shit crashed & never rebooted back up for no reason literally
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Dominos-roadster
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7h ago

It is faster in the context of disappoing the user and not being able to perform basic functionality reliably. Horsepower doesn't mean jack shit if microsoft still categorizes a dealy of 300ms "acceptable" internally (I can't find the source however it really makes a lot of sense given the state of W11 and explorer)
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nemesit
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7h ago

Yeah no nothing is as sluggish as a maxed out windows machine lol
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gloerkh
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5h ago

Windows 11 is an awful system that is counter intuitive and the laptop it came on is pathetic, i've seen more impressive fit and finish in McDonald's Happy Meal toys.
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missambitions
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5h ago
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james27_84
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4h ago

I am testing some new HP elite book for work with some new built in ai coprocessor. The build quality is nice for a PC, the trackpad is the best I've ever seen on a PC (still a diving board style, makes me yearn for my Mac). On first use I thought, "Wow, this almost feels as responsive as my m2 MacBook Air!" Upon further research, the damn thing has 32gb of ram, and starts at $2500. This is what it takes for a PC to approach the Mac baseline. I'm not a fan of AI productivity tools, but I fired up co-pilot, tried to execute a suggested action, and it crashed.
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seitz38
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4h ago
MacBook Pro

lol. “Our latest brand new top-tier CPU is faster than the cheapest MacBook you could buy 2 and a half years ago”
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3h ago
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Yep, faster at conversions towards their competitor’s product.
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Miserable-Lawyer-233
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2h ago

Speed is not the issue with PCs.
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ParanHak
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38m ago

I like my windows desktop (still on windows 10 probs gonna stay with ESU). It works great for games and microsoft office work and hosting my GPU so I can use it for data analysis. That said, in the laptop department. I am mostly going to use a mac; unless I am using an LG Gram in which case I only use it when I know I need to utilize windows only apps (I live in Korea, we have quite a few)
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spilk
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7h ago

i have a surface pro 11 and an m4 macbook air... the surface is definitely faster at some things but I use the macbook a heck of a lot more. Software support for native ARM is still lacking on Windows.
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Fer65432_Plays
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10h ago
MacBook Pro
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Summary Through Apple Intelligence: Microsoft claims in a new ad that top-end Windows PCs with Copilot+ branding are up to 58% faster than the previous-generation MacBook Air with the M3 chip. While some Copilot+ PCs are faster than the latest MacBook Air models with the M4 chip, Apple emphasizes the M4 family’s industry-leading performance per watt.
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NovaPrime94
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7h ago

Laughable
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kochapi
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8h ago

I hope so. If true, we can expect larger jump in performance for M5
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DeExecute
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1h ago

The productivity hit you get from using MacOS is what makes you slow. Apple makes great hardware, but the OS is still the worst on the market by far.

The faster claim in terms of performance is bs obviously.
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Droobot33
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9h ago

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