uh and then of course we will lay out the agenda forward because he I I believe is going to fundamentally restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in ways that we haven't seen since God knows uh FDR back in the 1930s uh Tom Rose is a senior adviser to Mr Donald Trump he was also an adviser to the former vice president Mike Pence pun Aralia former Republican candidate for left governor in Virginia AJ boria is Deputy National Finance chair of the democratic party Le C is Deputy assistant uh uh Secretary of
State and of course now she is uh the head of uh the U uh the Indo Pacific security Center at the center for New American Security Tom Rose uh good morning to you from Washington DC let me start with you I remember interviewing you a couple of weeks ago and you said you were very confident that Trump will win his message was resonating with uh uh with ordinary voters what is your first reading of this wave this Red Wave Trump is won all seven or at least is on the verge of winning all seven of the Battleground States he's won the popular
vote by over 5 percentage points that is not something that the pollsters saw or the pundits saw or even the news media saw I think it's it's perhaps the most remarkable uh political story certainly in American history this man survived two impeachments 91 indictments 34 phony felony convictions uh two assassination attempts a lost presidential election or an FBI raid of his of his private home uh media collusion to destroy or delegitimize him the opposition in unison calling him the worst conceivable names comparing him to
history's most bloodthirsty brutal dictators and he comes out and he wins what could be 315 electoral votes out of the 538 total I think what it says is that the American people have had enough with the elite institutions and Elite voices that continually assume they know what's best for us and I think the American people rejected that this was a rainbow Victory president Trump won half of the Latino Or Hispanic vote unheard of George W bush yep in 2004 won 40% and everyone thought that was the high Watermark he
won almost 30% of black men this was not a white rage vote this was a multi-ethnic multi-racial landslide victory for a man who promises to fix America's great problems you know I think that's a fascinating uh Insight Tom Rose let me get Lisa Curtis in on on this uh you were here Lisa a couple of days ago we were speaking about it uh you know I don't think anyone can say that this is the kind of whitelash uh uh verdict which which uh many said 2016 was uh you know the the the Forgotten America the left behinds was sort of raging Against
The Establishment this is I mean like like Tom Rose said he he has won more Hispanic Americans than any other Republican who ran for president uh he's won more of the male African-American vote than any one who ran for for president at least in the modern era from the Republican side uh you know and I was looking at this this place it's called Dearborn in Michigan it has the highest proportion of of Arab Americans in in America in any City you know who won there Donald Trump what does that say to the Democrats politics of
appealing and pandering to to just race and nothing else well I think it shows that uh president-elect Trump was able to connect with the voters um voters you know from all kinds of backgrounds minority voters as you point out he held steady with the women vote there was a lot of speculation you remember just two days ago zaka when we were speaking there was you know a lot of people talking about you know women were breaking for Kamala well I don't think these things happened in the end I think uh he was able to convince uh voters on
uh his policies on the economy on immigration those were two major issues uh for voters and also just that he would uh be able to fight for their interests uh protect their interests and so people basically just felt that uh he was going to be the leader who was going to look out for their own interests look out for the American people he showed himself to be a fighter um he he ran a very hard and and persistent campaign uh as you mentioned there were two assassination attempts against him I think it was a remarkable moment when
you know he had part of his ear shut off what did he do he stood up he pumped his fist um so not not everybody is is going to respond to an assassination attempt that way and I think this showed the kind of leader he is and that he really would fight for the American people and I I think that is what has won him um so handily uh he he has won this handily people didn't expect that I myself I say uh you know I thought it would be a closer race you know I thought the holes were more neck and neck um but I think he has shown that uh
he's got a very strong mandate uh it's a very clear vote uh for him and his leadership and I think in the end of the day uh people basically thought he would be the leader to fight harder for their own interest and to protect America and everything it stands for you know I I think for me what was fascinating was um he was able to appeal to Americans You know despite or beyond their identities whether it is by race or by gender uh you know you look at look at a problem like illegal immigration you could accuse Trump of
you know simplifying it and making it uh sound inhumane and so on and so forth But ultimately there is a problem and that problem needs to be fixed who does illegal immigration affect the most it doesn't affect white Americans it affects legal IM immigrants into this country it affects the Hispanics and the African-Americans and the asian-americans disproportionately compared to how it affects white Americans and he was able to convey this message to those communities that look this is not about immigration this is
about violent crime and these are people who are coming to your neighborhoods infesting your neighborhoods making your life difficult and a lot of people have bought into that message you look at you know one of the counties which has the highest proportion of uh Puerto Rican Americans in in in Pennsylvania uh and despite all the the rhetoric and the comedian who made that joke about Puerto Ricans you know who won that County Donald Trump won that County so pun alalia what does that say I think it's got to a stage where politicians and
this is not just here in America it's across the world it's in India uh it's in it's in um other democracies you cannot just be playing identity politics you have to at the end of the day if you are the incumbent run on your record and show why your record is better than your opponents and if you're the anti-incumbent then say what you're going to do better than the incumbent to make the lives of ordinary people uh better and not just say oh you're African-American therefore you have to vote Democrat how can you dare think of
voting for Trump you're Hispanic look at all the stuff that Trump and his supporters are saying about uh Hispanics can you dare vote for Trump that politics of just spering to a narrow racial identity is not working is not working anymore pun alalia well Victory and Vindication is the headline for president Trump and for the Republicans who have stood by him since 2016 or time he started but more importantly the message is that the Democratic party or the liberal leftist media and socialist social Elites want
to have a view of America according to them and this is a clear message for them look at we as Republicans we went through a process where we elected president Trump to be the next leader of the Republican party and what happened on the Democratic side is she was anointed as soon as they found out that Biden was incapable to lead the country or be the head of the uh leader of the democratic party and then what she said she had no message she had no message and we as Americans have been suffering for the last four years after they
inherited a very successful economy a safe a safer world than before and and that rhetoric of imposing on American people that he's a fascist he's a racist didn't sit well with people and now guess what they have lost handily and it's complete sweep so what it says is that identity politics is not here to say and all Arab Americans all Hispanic Americans asian-americans what is one thing common in them they're all American they're all impacted and affected by failed policies of the democratic party the rism has to stop
the rule of law has to Prevail weaponizing of the doj has to stop this country has to come together and we have to lead not just only for the American people but for the entire world look at the Bad actors Trump in Europe we have Putin and we have North Korea and Iran we need to find a way to resolve these issues and president Trump was so good in this as he started the Arab Arab the Abram Accord I think we'll find peace there we'll find a way to get the NATO to be stronger but the NATO Partners have to contribute more and at the same
time China that's the biggest uh I would say the Gill in the room that we need to take on and find a way to neutralize that and do business with them and I believe President Trump is the Right leader at the right I'll get to the the forward agenda in just one second I yeah I want to get to a boria for the Democrats I think one of the points that pun Al made I think the fact that a the Democrats took too long to figure out that Joe Biden was not in a position uh to run again uh his mental equities was simply not there uh uh you know kamla
Harris just had 107 days uh to make the case to the American people that she was the alternative and clearly uh not many Americans have bought into that uh in fact you if you look at the popular vote if you look at the raw data uh she has about 66 million votes Which is less way less than what Biden got Biden got 81 million in the 2020 elections so there're about 14 15 million Americans who've either not turned up or who voted for somebody else but they certainly have not voted for KLA Harris in fact her popular vote is even less than what
Hillary Clinton got Hillary Clinton got 73 million I think uh in 2016 so it's about 5 six million short of what Hillary Clinton got uh 8 years ago so either the candidate was unpopular and that point that p m I think is absolutely validly taken and please address that Mr boria you cannot impose a candidate on the American people he or she has to come through the the primary process and unfortunately in your party kamla Harris did not come through that primary process the last time she went through that primary process she was
eliminated even before I think the first primary ever happened well um first of all congratulations to President elect Trump and U as one of the speakers said I do admire all his strength going through so much and is still string strong to fight for uh American people people and uh as the Punit pointed out or you pointed out kamla had 117 days and to bring the case to who she is and what she stands for to the American people and I think she did a good fairly good job in uh getting her message across uh the American people
have made it very clear choice that they want Trump to handle the economy the immigration issues the the the wars and everything and to make the country more safe so uh that's a that's a choice American people have made and we go with that now the transition from President Biden to kamla um I do agree that a lot of people within the party and a lot of people uh you know outside they did not like the way the transition was done I was knocking doors in the Wayne County in Pennsylvania and uh we were talking about the undecided voters to say Hey
you know you should be voting for kamla and one of the folk asked me that you guys are talking about saving democracy and uh but you did not elect your candidate democratically so how are you going to protect democra I said yeah that's question so so that's a question with many voters great Point yeah many undecided voters had and I think that played out in favor of trump I think that's a fantastic point and I think that resonated uh with with the with the with the undecideds uh that's a great point that Mr V has let
me go back to to Tom Rose and to try and take this forward what is Trump's agenda going to be first domestically and then I'll ask Lisa about the international agenda but domestically Trump has basically and he said this over and over again in his campaign he is going to fundamentally restructure the American bureaucracy which means RFK Jr becomes Health secretary uh Elon Musk becomes the secretary for the Department of controlling government expenditure what have you uh and now he has the Mandate he's got a sweeping mandate the biggest
that a republican has had I think since George W bush if not Ronald Reagan uh and more importantly he has control of the Senate so he can get anyone appointed as secretary or Ambassador uh in the next two years till till they have control of the Senate so how may you think Trump is going to restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in particular well I think he's been uh I think he's zaka been very clear about what he wants to do we need a closed border we need a fixed immigration system we need Mass deportation of
illegal criminals in the United States of whom there are hundreds of thousands he now has the ability to begin to do that but let's not forget zaka that the administrative State the bureaucracy if you will the civil service is still in place the legal system is still in place the uh the Democrats the left are not going to roll over uh and die they'll file lawsuit after lawsuit or injunction after injunction they'll get their judges to try and stop and that's the way our democracy works I'm not uh uh necessarily complaining about that we
have a system of checks and balances designed to ensure that not one single branch of government is uh supreme or has more power than the others but on the judicial side we now have three members of the Supreme Court who are over 70 years old two of those are conservative one is liberal uh we might see um uh some retirements on the court now that uh we're assured that they can be replaced by conservative uh uh uh judges so as significant and as important as this election is uh our American system of government is
designed to slow things down it's built with sand in the gears if you will to ensure that there can't be a dramatic radical change without popular mandates now Trump has a significant popular mandate he's been very clear about what he wants to do his main objectives he'll be able to accomplish but some of the broader thematic themes uh I think we're still going to have to wait and see all right let me also go across to CNN reporter Ivan Rodriguez is joining us from West Palm Beach Florida he's of course been keeping an eye out
on the Trump campaign uh Trump came out and spoke last night to his supporters massive massive win uh I know that CNN has still not projected Michigan Arizona or Nevada yet but Trump is leading in all three states and if he were to win all three this would be a bigger mandate for him than what he won in 2016 uh he's effectively going to win all seven Battleground States how did this come about uh Ivan what's the what's the read in in Trump HQ on how this lands was brought about well zanka I I didn't even say
that in the Trump Camp they'd argue even without winning Arizona Nevada it's a landslide Victory uh because it really has been surprising to see even earlier last night how much of a lead he was gaining in those key Battleground States I will tell you though that what we're hearing from a lot of Voters in States across the country let's even just focus on those Battlegrounds which had a lot to say in terms of who was going back to that white house uh the economy was the number one issue and we're looking at
things like inflation grocery prices gas prices housing market a lot of things uh in that sector have been worrisome to the American uh population to the greater population uh and although inflation isn't necessarily Rising anymore it also hasn't gone any lower per se so prices have remained pretty much high at that point so every time someone goes back to the grocery store they're still looking at those High prices Trump and his campaign did a good job of being able to tie Harris to that Biden presidency and remind people in a
way that she is no different than Biden if you vote for her you're going to get the same thing that you got for uh from President Biden but it really is so overwhelming and we look at we look across the editorial map right that blue wall what Democrats say is so important to them Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania Trump flipping Pennsylvania Trump also flipping Wisconsin we were we were talking yesterday even if he was just able to get one of those it was going to be crucial to his White House Victory but now looking at the map
he could walk away as you mentioned with Michigan as well would mean a complete overhaul of that blue wall which Biden was able to flip uh it back in 2020 but States like Georgia they were gone Republican again uh uh North Carolina which Democrats were eager to possibly flip uh that remained uh under that GOP win Arizona Nevada I mean at this point like you mentioned it doesn't really matter what happens in those States but if they do uh go Trump's way it's just even more of a sense of just how much of an overwhelming Victory it was not only
in the Electoral College but also winning the popular vote yeah uh I think last I checked like I said Trump had 71 million KLA Harris had about 66 million Biden had 81 million so that's about 13 14 million less uh who have voted for for the Democrats you know why they didn't do that I guess pundits will sort of scratch their heads and do their analysis about that but I'm coming to you Ian from the US Congress from the US Capital Hill uh and this is going to be a different uh government now because you have a republican in the White House
you have Republicans in control of the Senate and they are within Striking Distance of uh taking or winning the House of Representatives what does that mean for Trump in his second term uh both in terms of appointments and also his agenda I mean look yesterday we saw uh Trump very excited for the fact that the GOP was able to secure uh control of the Senate uh you can only imagine uh he's very closely watching those key races in the house uh because if he is able to secure the house I mean it really opens up the door for uh his new government
now uh to do a lot of the things that he had uh said along the campaign trail that he wanted to do a lot of these things do require Congressional approval uh although a lot of things have been said along the campaign Trail right uh for example tax on tips to help uh other sort of policies a lot of them uh zaka require that help from Congress all right Ivan we'll leave it with that thank you very much Ivan Rodriguez at West Palm Beach Florida uh tracking the Trump campaign and of course there was a big party there uh
after yesterday's speech Trump gave a big speech and he said said that the country is broken and we need to fix it we need to put America first that's been his messaging that's been his messaging for the last 8 years but let me go to Lisa Curtis and take this forward now obviously you know there's a big domestic agenda but there's also a big foreign policy agenda for Donald Trump uh there are two Wars uh he has been an anti-war candidate all along right from the first time he ran in 2016 uh he might respond differently to the two
Wars on Russia Ukraine he said publicly he will end it within 24 hours he will basically tell zalinsky take it or leave it what is that mean and two also on the Israel Hamas question now that you know I just gave you the example of Dearborn Michigan where Arab Americans have voted overwhelmingly for Trump how does he play the Israel Hamas War does he give uh Netanyahu more of a more of a blank check or does he tell him okay go ahead finish the job but also end this war quickly well these are all great questions um I can give just a few
thoughts uh first on the Ukraine Russia War uh certainly he has said he wants to focus on negotiations focus on ending the war but the question is how do we do that and how do you do that in a way that you're not empowering Russia to try the same thing a few years later uh of course Trump doesn't want to look like he's giving in to Putin uh the American people certainly would not uh support that kind of solution so I think it's going to take time and the the question is how do you end the war in a way that you're not rewarding Russia and that
you're not encouraging Russia to try the same kind of illegal unjustified invasion of another country one two years down the line so I think that's a critical issue uh the second on Middle East uh look uh the Trump Administration was a huge supporter of Israel um they will continue to support Israel um in its fight and I think that uh you know we have to look at the fact that um Netanyahu also um understands that that Trump uh does not like to see conflicts prolong um would not want to see the US get embroiled in the conflict uh so I
think again you know I think Trump will be able to help the situation and perhaps get to a position where there could be some kind of ceasefire or winding down of of this uh conflict as well and then lastly let me just say a few words about China um you know Trump had really uh set the policy uh toward China during his first term uh he had uh been very clear about restricting certain Technologies to China uh he had uh put in export controls um he had taken a very firm position on China's aggressive behavior uh toward other
countries India being one of them of course to the uh 2020 gawan crisis um so I would expect that he would continue uh with this strategy uh working with allies and partners in order to meet the China Challenge and more effectively compete uh this is this is the name of the game now the US is in competion with China all right Le Lisa um Tom Rose and and ponit thank you very much for joining us us I want to shift Focus to the second part of our program and that is on the US India bilateral relationship and somebody who's seen
that from very close quarters is Mr s akarin former secretary to the ministry of external Affairs former spokesperson of the ministry of external Affairs good morning to you from Washington DC Mr Akin I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress it is a new dawn in America it's a republican wave Trump is back in the White House what does it mean for the India us bilateral of course I want to start off with the whole trade question because Trump at least on the campaign uh has said that he's going to impose a 20% straight up
tariff on All Imports into the United States and that includes imports from India uh what may that mean so zaka first of all um changes in US Administration are not new to the Indian establishment uh We've navigated uh these changes successfully previously now on your um specific uh issue of uh trade and tariff uh yes um these are challenges uh that uh uh globally everybody has to navigate and it's not that we haven't navigated trade related challenges with the US before for example in the last Trump Administration
he withdrew the GSP um benefits for India um yes he's transactional but then big countries know how to work with each other and um a give and take relationship is what Trump understands and countries like India and the Indian diplomatic establishment know how to uh engage in this um dialogue and I don't see this as a major threat of course uh he needs intends to promote his interests on a uh basis which is not only antithetical to India alone it is a intention that he wants to impose these sort of restrictions of 10 to 20% across
the globe with some exceptions uh where their interest don't coincide like in China in terms of India us and India interests coincide so there will be such um pin Pricks but I don't see a Divergence in the big interest between the two countries I I don't want to ask you about the China question because uh the feeling with the Biden Harris Administration uh at least in South block was that they distracted by what's going on in in West Asia the war there the Russia Ukraine war there uh they were not as much focused on China
whereas with Trump and he said this publicly so many times both when he was president and also on the campaign he's going to be squarely focused on what is the the the long-term challenge for the United States which is the rise of China uh do you think that would be good for India because India also has its own set of challenges with China so um yes um to the credit of uh the first Trump Administration they uh pivoted in a uh manner which no other administration had done in addressing the long-term challenges from China now
uh India and us um interests converge in this area um for a variety of reasons uh which are pretty obvious uh and therefore a convergence of Interest helps um in both the countries in working together and yes as you said uh if other issues or the other two Wars the two major Wars which are going on elsewhere in the world are addressed uh the focus will turn to issues uh uh uh relating to the common challenges faced by both India and China and other count sorry both India and the US and other countries from uh a variety of um uh
strategic um impulses from China having said that uh there is one other thing I think we also need to be inent of and that is um the Republican Administration is less focused on um values than on interests and that's a good sign because interests are easy to um focus on values will always differ from perspectives of which are different in both societies yeah I think that's a that's a great Point especially on this whole business about kistan and all these separatist elements I think uh uh Trump won't be as uptight if I can use that
word as the Democrat Administration has been but thank you very much Mr akarin for joining us I'm in fact going to go across to one of your counterparts on the other side Ambassador Atul kab is the president of the US India Business Council Ambassador kab I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress outside the Capital Hill uh it's a new morning in America it's a it's a red wave Trump is back in the white house as president the Republicans are in control of the Senate and will likely take the house as well uh what's your read what's
your read of what went on uh last night because nobody was predicting this kind of a landslide I mean the polls were saying that was going to be extremely close it boils down to the Battlegrounds I think he's winning all seven Battlegrounds what what what exactly happened what what's your analysis well president Trump uh clearly ran on a CA uh campaign plank of keeping America strong uh and uh trying to uh address all of the wars and instability and ensuring the well-being of the American people so he clearly uh enjoyed
a ground swell of support uh I think the great Victory last night was not only President Trump's but of American democracy look at the American people queuing up and patiently voting in a free and fair election showing once again our passionate Devotion to democracy it's good for us it's good for all free people around the world so let's see what comes of it I do want to ask you about you know what Trump's agenda at least on the foreign policy front would be obviously he would be I mean his top two priorities would be the two Wars Israel
Hamas and of course Russia Ukraine on Russia Ukraine he has said publicly on the campaign that he's going to end it in day one he's going to end it in 24 hours he's basically going to tell zilinsky take it or leave it and he's going to shut off the eight his vice president uh now Vice president-elect uh JD Vance has said in as many words in the senate floor and otherwise that uh Ukraine should not be given American Aid uh you reckon that is is likely how Trump is going to play the Russia Ukraine war zaka I want to talk to you about us
India relations I think that Trump who wrote The Art of the deal uh clearly is invested in making deals and I think that us and India actually have an enormous opportunity to be ambitious so whatever happens in Russia Ukraine let's focus on Delhi and Washington let's focus on taking the US India strategic economic and technological convergence to the next level that's the critical work of the two great democracies of this planet what the reason I asked you that is because it has a knock-on effect I I know one sore point between the Biden
Harris Administration and New Delhi was on India's import of Russian oil but be that as it may let's talk about what what Trump's economic agenda is and what his plan is uh he's basically saying anywhere between 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the United States and that will surely affect Indian Imports into the United States as well won't it well look this is where the president has president Trump has been very clear about the need for uh fair and balanced trade uh there ha there have been structural imbalances in America's trade
with many countries around the world uh since the pandemic we've also had Rising concerns about supply chain vulnerability this is where again if Delhi and Washington play it well and if Delhi understands the sensitivities of the American people as telegraphed through this election then I think there's an opportunity for both India and America to be entrepreneurial recall that in the last days of the Trump Administration in Trump 1 there was a very uh intense effort to try to forge a meaningful trade deal and I think that
if both sides can get back to that there is a chance for both Delhi and Washington to be ambitious to achieve some big things for both Indian and American people and to reinforce the connectivity between High trust Nations such as India and the United States and strengthen our supply chains but it does require that our partners understand the sensitivities and feelings of the American people uh um I I want to get one final word from Ambassador kha mukes AI is also joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum but
Ambassador kop just on that question when Trump was President between 2016 and 2020 you know this I mean you had a ringside view of this how he railed about you know the harleydavidson tariffs that India was imposing how he was upset about India buying S400 uh missile defense systems from Russia uh H how do you see that that sort of playing out I mean India's defense partnership for example even today despite the war and all of that almost 50% of India's defense Imports are from Russia well I Al REM zaka that the
president visited India uh to ahmadabad for that big rally he also hosted Prime Minister Modi in Houston Texas and so much else besides and I vividly remember from my time in government that when India uh was facing the uh rather terrible challenge at galwan uh and made some requests of the United States uh for help uh in critical areas uh president Trump made a decision to rush that Aid to India because of the strength of the relationship between the Indian and American people so I think what will need to happen is clear
conversations between Delhi and Washington uh in Trump to about the respective needs of one another and then serious work to forge an ambitious agenda for continued strategic economic and technological convergence because it's important for both of us and it's frankly important for the stability and happiness of the world all right Ambassador kab thank you very much is always a pleasure speaking with you let's see uh if if us India sees a new dawn under Trump 2.
0 mukes AI from the US India strategic partnership forum is also now joining us thank you very much Mr AI good morning to you I'm coming to you live from Washington DC outside the US Congress uh the Capital Hill uh just tell us I mean your assessment your hot take of what exactly happened last night it's a massive Landslide for Donald Trump and the Republican Party well you had a very effective campaign by the Republican party they were organized their messaging was right which resonated with the people and you have a for the first time in last 20 years
popular award also being won by the president the Senate and the White House and and we're waiting for the results on the house also so I think it seems to be a clean sweep for the president on his agenda and and that's going to be disrupted on a global basis uh I do want to talk to you about one of the big issues that Trump made on the campaign was about illegal immigration uh and when we were speaking to people you know around around the DC area over the last 2 or 3 days that we've been here you know including
people in the indian-american community the indian-american community wants more legal immigration into the United States and they were saying that the people who uh who illegal immigration affects most are actually the legal immigrants do you see Trump once he's done with this whole business of you know mass deportations or whatever it is that he wants to do to address the illegal immigration problem do you see him addressing the legal immigration issue as well because that system is also broken no absolutely I think you have to
understand uh the crying need for the US business Community is uh skills and Manpower women power and it's important to basically hire those people and there's a massive shortage especially in the tech world and what we are seeing is is the legal immigration is being impacted by the illegal we have around 16 million illegal immigrants and and by the way the third largest uh illegal immigrants are now coming from India itself that has a percolative impact on the legal side so I think it's important we address that because if we don't
address that then the companies are not globally efficient effective and they need talent to be be able to build business uh both domestically and globally so he's also saying look I mean I know some of it could be campaign rhetoric he might turn it down when he is actually governing that this hold 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the us if not then you have to come and set up a plant here in the in the United States do you see this working because ultimately if there's going to be tariffs then um you know companies are
going to pass that on to the consumers it's not like they're doing this for for charity well uh the economists have estimated that if you put 20% tariff uh it has almost a uh uh 2% % inflationary impact and also have almost a dramatic impact on the GDP growth also because at the end of the day is a consumer which pays for that last time when the Tariff was set up we didn't see a massive movement of companies moving manufacturing back to the US you have to understand uh it's not all manufacturing will move back some will definitely move
back but overall there's a massive skill shortage what we will see is basically is that China will get impacted the most because the promise is to put 60% tariff on Chinese Goods coming into the country so a lot of us companies who are concerned about their supply chain concerned about their revenue and sales will look at other Alternatives beside China to set of manufacturing yes high-end manufacturing may move back uh to the US but the the lowend manufacturing will stay in Asia and other part of the world and India can
play a very pivotal role and it's not just about being part of the global supply chain India also offered us companies Market opportunity you look at Apple which moved part of his manufactured for India and his domestic Revenue has gone up over5 Billion doar itself so I think it's a combination of global supply chain drisking uh manufacturing and at the same time gaining market share and very quickly Mr AI before we let you go uh obviously the the big foreign policy challenge the most immediate priority for him would be to
end the to Wars and Trump to his credit has been anti-war ever since he first ran as as a candidate in 2016 um how do you see him play both the Russia Ukraine war and the Israel Hamas War when you look at on the Ukraine and Russia front uh they made it very clear the Republican party that they will not anymore supply all the weapons and money to Ukraine itself and there has been some kind of a discussion with potin so I think you will see some kind of a settlement happening on that war in the case of Middle East I believe they will
give a more freehand toan to go basically uh deal with the proxies which is the Hezbollah huis and Hamas itself but more important is is the stress point with China I think it's important to understand that both Republican and Democrats see China as a critical adversary both from military side economic side and Technology side and that's where India becomes critical in the strategy of leveraging uh India to deal with encounter China itself and you have to understand that one area which we will see more focus is going to take
place is is quad the four countries which is Japan Australia India and the US and I believe the quad will percolate into the economic agreement also because there have four countries whose total GDP is around $35 trillion they can work together as a potential Common Market which will be an easier thing to do and that's going to basically affect India dealing with the Tariff of 20% also so we believe that while the focus is going to be initially Middle East and Europe sorry Middle East and Ukraine but quad will play a pivital role
also I think that's a great point because when Trump was President between 16 and 20 uh he was the one who gave so much impetus to move quad into a head of government uh sort of setting eventually of course the first head of summit head of state quad meeting happened when Biden became president uh but he did really really push the quad so I think that's a great Point made thank you very much Mukesh AI for joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum uh it is a big big moment in America's political Journey no doubt about it
Donald Trump has managed to do something that no American president has done in over a 100 years gr Cleveland back in 1918 uh after he won a term then lost re-election came back after 4 years and then won a second term so for Trump this is a bit of redemption if you will this is a shot uh at creating history again making America great again as he keeps saying uh and I think the most important thing is Trump realizes that there is a broken system whether it's on immigration whether it's on economy and he has made a promise to the American
voters that he will fix it so the next 4 years we will uh we will wait and see uh whether or not he's able to live up to those uh High promises we'll take a quick break when we come back on the other side uh I've done a a quick walk through into what exactly happened why the Democrats got uh this election so wrong they were going into this election with a one straight narrow path strategy which was to win the blue wall States and then everything else will take care of it and that has simply come off the seams I'll explain that right on the
other side of this quick break [Music] addition it's the morning after election day and election night in America we're coming to you live from the US Capital Hill where the US Congress will now be shaded completely in red a republican is going to be the next president of the White House the Republicans have taken control of the US Senate and they are within Striking Distance of taking control of the House of Representatives which means once that happens the Republicans will have control of all three branches of government here in the
United States and that is a huge thing uh the last time that happened was in 2016 when uh Trump won all three branches of government he pipped Hillary Clinton but like I said a moment ago today's Victory is bigger than what Trump achieved back in 2016 it is bigger uh even in terms of Electoral College votes bigger than what Biden achieved 4 years ago so how did this come about we will get get into the integrities we will dive into the numbers like I said Trump is on course to win all seven of the Swing States Trump is winning the
popular vote and by a margin he is right now last I check is at over 71 million votes across uh the United States and kamla Harris is at over 66 million votes no one said that Trump would win the popular vote by this kind of a margin this is way above the plus or minus 3 margin of error in the polls this is closer to 5% of the entire electorate and therefore this has been a sweeping a sweeping victory for the Republicans and for Donald Trump we will try and break it down for you as to how he won and also take it Forward because he's got a
lot of work to do both domestically and internationally what are his priorities going to be we lay out the Trump agenda and the Trump vision for the first uh 100 days of the first uh you know first year at least because he has a lot of work to do both domestically and abroad uh this is how it played out in what has turned out to be a tremendous night for Trump the Republicans and of course a night of heartbreak for kamla Harris and the [Applause] Democrats America great again oh and Powerful M day [Applause] frankly this was I believe the
greatest political movement of all time there's never been anything like this in this country and maybe Beyond you have some great senators and some great new senators and it also looks like we'll be keeping control of the House of Representatives we are going to start by we all putting America first we have to put our country first for at least a period of time we have to fix it because together we can truly make America great again for all Americans we made history for a reason tonight you know Trump has been running
on this campaign of making America great again for the last 8 years and 70 million plus Americans have bought into that they bought into it in 2016 they bought into it in 2020 and they've boughten into it uh in 2024 but I think frankly what tilted the scales for Trump and this phenomenal the stunning comeback that we're seeing is the campaign line that he ran for the last few weeks saying Trump will fix it I think that resonated with a lot of Voters people were upset they were angry about the economy about cost of living
cost of groceries uh cost of housing had gone up and then of course a lot of Americans were upset about America's role in these two ongoing Wars and the fact that the Biden Harris admin ation was doing nothing to stop these two Wars Trump simply said I know the country is broken I know the world is broken I'm the man to fix it Trump will fix it and I think a lot of Americans have bought into that message irrespective of whether they are white or African-American Or Hispanic or Asian-American they have voted as
Americans first and Trump has and his message of trump will fix it has resonated with Americans irrespective of racial divides or even gender divides which was of course stocked up by the Democrats in a big way uh going into election day let me now bring in our guests first part we will try and analyze how this stunning this stunning Republican wave how it was Mastered by Trump and his team over the last few weeks and months uh and then of course we will lay out the agenda forward because he I I believe is going to
fundamentally restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in ways that we haven't seen since God knows uh FDR back in in the 1930s uh Tom Rose is a senior adviser to Mr Donald Trump he was also an adviser to the former vice president Mike Pence pun alalia former Republican candidate for left governor in Virginia AJ boria is Deputy National Finance chair of the democratic party Lisa Kurt is Deputy assistant uh uh Secretary of State and of course now she is uh the head of uh the U uh the indo-pacific security
Center at the center for New American Security Tom Rose uh good morning to you from Washington DC let me start with you I remember interviewing you a couple of weeks ago and you said you were very confident that Trump will win his message was resonating with uh with ordinary voters what is your first reading of this wave this Red Wave Trump has won all seven or at least is on the verge of winning all seven of the Battleground States he's won the popular vote by over 5 percentage points that is not something that the pollster saw or
the pundits saw or even the news media saw I think it's it's perhaps the most remarkable uh political story certainly in American history this man survived two impeachments 91 indictments 34 phony felony convictions uh two assassination attempts a lost presidential election or an FBI raid of his of his private home uh media collusion to destroy or Del legitimize him the opposition in unison calling him the worst conceivable names comparing him to history's most bloodthirsty brutal dictators and he comes out and he wins
what could be 315 electoral votes out of the 538 total I think what it says is that the American people have had enough with the elite institutions and Elite voices that continually assume assume they know what's best for us and I think the American people rejected that this was a rainbow Victory president Trump won half of the Latino Or Hispanic vote unheard of George W bush yep in 2004 won 40% and everyone thought that was the high Watermark he won almost 30% of black men this was not a white rage vote this was
a multiethnic multi-racial Landslide victory for a man who promises to fix America's great problems you know I think that's a fascinating uh Insight Tom Rose let me get Lisa Curtis in on this uh you were here Lisa a couple of days ago we were speaking about it uh you know I don't think anyone can say that this is the kind of white lash uh uh verdict which which uh many said 2016 was uh you know the the the Forgotten America the left behinds was of raging Against The Establishment this is I mean like like Tom Rose said he he has won more
Hispanic Americans than any other Republican who ran for president uh he's won more of the male African-American vote than any one who ran for uh for president at least in the modern era from the Republican side uh you know and I was looking at this this place it's called Dearborn in Michigan it has the highest proportion of of Arab Americans in in America in any City you know who won there Donald Trump what does that say to the Democrats politics of appealing and pandering to to just race and nothing else well I think it shows that uh
president-elect Trump was able to connect with the voters um voters you know from all kinds of backgrounds minority voters as you point out he held steady with the women vote there was a lot of speculation you remember just two days ago zaka when we were speaking there was you know a lot of people talking about you know women were breaking for Kamala well I don't think these things happened in the end I think uh he was able to convince uh voters on uh his policies on the economy on immigration those were two major issues
uh for voters and also just that he would uh be able to fight for their interests uh protect their interests and so people basically just felt that uh he was going to be the leader who was going to look out for their own interests look out for the American people he showed himself to be a fighter um he he ran a very hard and and persistent campaign uh as you mentioned there were two assassination attempts against him I think it was a remarkable moment when you know he had part of his ear shut off what did he do he stood up he pumped his
fist um so not not everybody is is going to respond to an assassination attempt that way and I think this showed the kind of leader he is and that he really would fight for the American people and I I think that is what has won him um so handily uh he he has won this handily people didn't expect that I myself I say uh you know I thought it would be a closer race you know I thought the holes were more neck and neck um but I think he has shown that uh he's got a very strong mandate uh it's a very clear vote uh for him and his leadership and I
think in the end of the day uh people basically thought he would be the leader to fight harder for their own interest and to protect America and everything it stands for you know I I think for me what was fascinating was um he was able to appeal to Americans You know despite or beyond their identities whether it is by race or by gender uh you know you look at look at a problem like illegal immigration you could accuse Trump of you know simplifying it and making it uh sound inhumane and so on and so forth But ultimately there is a problem and
that problem needs to be fixed who does illegal immigration affect the most it doesn't affect white Americans it affects legal IM immigrants into this country it affects the Hispanics and the the African-Americans and the asian-americans disproportionately compared to how it affects white Americans and he was able to convey this message to those communities that look this is not about immigration this is about violent crime and these are people who are coming to your neighborhoods infesting your neighborhoods making your
life difficult and a lot of people have bought into that message you look at you know one of the counties which has the highest proportion of uh Puerto Rican Americans in in in Pennsylvania uh and despite all the the rhetoric and the comedian who made that joke about Puerto Ricans you know who won that County Donald Trump won that County so pun alalia what does that say I think it's got to a stage where politicians and this is not just here in America it's across the world it's in India uh it's in it's in um other democracies you
cannot just be playing identity politics you have to at the end of the day if you are the incumbent run on your record and show why your record is better than your opponents and if you're the anti-incumbent then say what you're going to do better than the incumbent to make the lives of ordinary people uh better and not just say oh you're African-American therefore you have to vote Democrat how can you dare think of voting for Trump you're Hispanic look at all the stuff that Trump and his supporters are saying about uh Hispanics
how can you dare vote for Trump that politics of just spering to a narrow racial identity is not working is not working anymore pun alalia well Victory and Vindication is the headline for president Trump and for the Republicans who have stood by him since 2016 or time he started but more importantly the message is that the Democratic party or the liberal leftist media and socialist social Elites want to have a view of America according to them and this is a clear message for them look at we as Republicans we went
through a process where we elected president Trump to be the next leader of the Republican party and what happened on the Democratic side is she was anointed as soon as they found out that Biden was incapable to lead the country or be the head of the uh leader of the democratic body and then what she said she had no message she had no message and we as Americans have been suffering for the last four years after they inherited a very successful economy a safe a safer world than before and and that rhetoric of imposing on American
people that he's a fascist he's a racist didn't sit well with people and now guess what they have lost handily and it's complete sweep so what it says is that identity politics is not here to stay and all Arab Americans all Hispanic Americans asian-americans what is one thing very common in them they're all American they're all impacted and affected by failed policies of the democratic party the wokeism has to stop the rule of law has to Prevail weaponizing of the doj has to stop this country has to come together and we have
to lead not just only for the American people but for the entire world look at the Bad actors from in Europe we have Putin and we have North Korea and Iran we need to find a way to resolve these issues and president Trump was so good in this as he started the Arab Arab the Abram Accord I think we'll find peace there we'll find a way to get the NATO to be stronger but the NATO Partners have to contribute more and at the same time China that's the biggest uh I would say the g in the room that we need to take on and find a way to neutralize and
do business with them and I believe President Trump is the Right leader at the right I'll get to the the forward agenda in just one second I yeah I want to get to a boria for the Democrats I think one of the points that pun alalia made I think the fact that a the Democrats took too long to figure out that Joe Biden was not in a position uh to run again uh his mental equities was simply not there uh uh you know kamla Harris just had 107 days uh to make the case to the American people that she was the alternative and clearly uh not many
Americans have bought into that uh in fact you if you look at the popular vote if you look at the raw data uh she has about 66 million votes Which is less way less than what Biden got Biden got 81 million in the 2020 elections so there are about 14 15 million Americans who've either not turned up or who voted for somebody else but they certainly have not voted for KLA Harris in fact her popular vote is even less than what Hillary Clinton got she Hillary Clinton got 73 million I think in 2016 so it's about 5 6 million short
of what Hillary Clinton got 8 years ago so either the candidate was unpopular and that point that pun made I think is absolutely validly taken and please address that uh Mr boria you cannot impose a candidate on the American people he or she has to come through the the primary process and unfortunately in your party kamla Harris did not come through that primary process the last time she went through that primary process she was eliminated even before I think the first primary ever happened well um first of all congratulations to
president elect Trump and U as one of the speakers said I do admire all his strength going through so much and is still string strong to fight for American people and U as Punit pointed out or you pointed out kamla had 117 days and to bring the case to who she is and what she stands for to the American people and I think she did a good fairly good job in uh getting her message across uh the American people have made it very clear choice that they want Trump to handle the economy the immigration issues the the the wars and
everything and to make the country more safe so uh that's a that's a choice American people have made and we go with that now the transition from President Biden to kamla I do agree that a lot of people within the party and a lot of people uh you know outside uh the they did not like the way the transition was done I was knocking doors in the Wayne County in Pennsylvania and uh we were talking about the undecided voters to say Hey you know you should be voting for kamla and one of the folk asked me that you guys are talking about saving democracy
and uh but you did not elect your candidate democratically so how are you going to protect Democratic I said yeah that's question so so that's a question with many voters great point yeah many undecided voters had and I think that played out in favor of trump I think that's a fantastic point and I think that resonated uh W with the with the with the undecideds uh that's a great point that Mr VOR has made let me go back to to Tom Ros and to try and take this forward what is Trump's agenda going to be first domestically and then
I'll ask Lisa about the international agenda but domestically Trump has basically and he said this over and over again in his campaign he is going to fundamentally restructure the American bureaucracy which means RFK Jr becomes Health secretary uh Elon Musk becomes the secretary for the Department of controlling government expenditure what have you uh and now he has the Mandate he's got a sweeping mandate the biggest that a republican has had I think since George W bush if not Ronald Reagan uh and more importantly he has
control of the Senate so he can get anyone appointed as secretary or Ambassador uh in the next two years still till they have control of the Senate so how may you think Trump is going to restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in particular well I think he's been uh I think he's zaka been very clear about what he wants to do we need a closed border we need a fixed immigration system we need Mass deportation of illegal criminals in the United States of whom there are hundreds of thousands
he now has the ability to begin to do that but let's not forget zaka that the administrative State the bureaucracy if you will the civil service is still in place the legal system is still in place the uh the Democrats the left are not going to roll over uh and die they'll file lawsuit after lawsuit or injunction after injunction they'll get their judges to try and stop and that's the way our democracy works I'm not uh uh necessarily complaining about that we have a system of checks and balances designed to ensure that not one single
branch of government is uh supreme or has more power than the others but on the judicial side we now have three members of the Supreme Court who are over 70 years old two of those are conservative one is liberal uh we might see um uh some retirements on the court now that uh we're assured that they can be replaced by conservative uh uh judges so as significant and as important as this election is uh our American system of government is designed to slow things down it's built with sand in the gears if you will to ensure that there can't
be uh a dramatic radical change without popular mandates now Trump has a significant popular mandate he's been very clear about what he wants to do his main object he'll be able to accomplish but some of the broader thematic themes uh I think we're still going to have to wait and see all right let me also go across to CNN reporter Ivan Rodriguez is joining us from West Palm Beach Florida uh he's of course been keeping an eye out on the Trump campaign uh Trump came out and spoke last night to his supporters massive massive win um I know that CNN
has still not projected Michigan Arizona or Nevada yet but Trump is leading in all three states and if you were to win all three this would be a bigger mandate for him than what he won in 2016 uh he's effectively going to win all seven Battleground States how did this come about uh Ivan what's the what's the read in in Trump HQ on how this Landslide was brought about uh will zanka I I'd even say that in the Trump Camp they'd argue even without winning Arizona Nevada it's a landslide Victory uh because it really
has been surprising to see even even earlier last night how much of a lead he was gaining in those key Battleground States I will tell you though that what we're hearing from a lot of Voters in States across the country let's even just focus on those Battlegrounds which had a lot to say in terms of who was going back to that white house uh the economy was the number one issue and we're looking at things like inflation grocery prices gas prices housing market a lot of things uh in that sector have been worrisome to the American uh
population to the greater population uh and although inflation isn't necessarily Rising anymore it also hasn't gone any lower per se so prices have remained pretty much high at that point so every time someone goes back to the grocery store they're still looking at those high prices Trump and his campaign did a good job of being able to tie Harris to that Biden presidency and remind people in a way that she is no different than Biden if you vote for her you're going to get the same thing that you got for uh from president President Biden but it
really is so overwhelming and we look at we look across the editorial map right that blue wall what Democrats say is so important to them Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania Trump flipping Pennsylvania Trump also flipping Wisconsin uh we were we were talking yesterday even if he was just able to get one of those it was going to be crucial to his White House Victory but now looking at the map he could walk away as you mentioned with Michigan as well would mean a complete overhaul of that blue wall which Biden was able to flip uh it back in 2020 but
States like Georgia they were gone Republican again uh North Carolina which Democrats were eager to possibly flip uh that remained uh under that GOP win Arizona Nevada I mean at this point like you mentioned it doesn't really matter what happens in those States but if they do uh go Trump's way is just even more of a sense of just how much of an overwhelming Victory it was not only in the Electoral College but also winning the popular vote yeah uh I think last I checked like I said Trump had 71 million kamla Harris
had about 66 million Biden had 81 million so that's about 13 14 million less uh who have voted for the Democrats you know why they didn't do that I guess pundits will sort of scratch their heads and do their analysis about that but I'm coming to you Ian from the US Congress from the US Capital Hill uh and this is going to be a different uh government now because you have a republican in the White House you have Republicans in control of the Senate and they are within Striking Distance of uh taking or winning the House of Representatives
what does that mean for Trump in his second term uh both in terms of appointments and also his agenda I mean look yesterday we saw Trump very excited for the fact that the GOP was able to secure uh control of the Senate uh you can only imagine uh he's very closely watching those key races in the house uh because if he is able to secure the house I mean it really opens up the door for his new government now uh to do a lot of the things that he had uh said along the campaign trail that he had wanted uh to do a lot of these
things do require Congressional approval uh although a lot of things have been said along along the campaign Trail right uh for example tax on tips to help uh other sort of policies a lot of them uh zaka require that help from Congress all right Ivan we'll leave it with that thank you very much Ivan Rodriguez at West Palm Beach Florida uh tracking the Trump campaign and of course there was a big party there uh after yesterday's speech Trump gave a big speech and he said that the country is broken and we need to fix it we need to put America
first that's been his messaging that's been his messaging for the last8 years but let me go to Lisa Curtis and take this forward now obviously you know there's a big domestic agenda but there's also a big foreign policy agenda for Donald Trump uh there are two Wars uh he has been an anti-war candidate all along right from the first time he ran in 2016 uh he might respond differently to the two Wars on Russia Ukraine he said publicly he will end it within 24 hours he will basically tell zalinsky take it or leave it what does that mean
and two also on the Israel Hamas question now that you know I I just gave you the example of Dearborn Michigan where Arab Americans have voted overwhelmingly for Trump how does he play the Israel Hamas War does he give uh Netanyahu more of a more of a blank check or does he tell him okay go ahead finish the job but also end this war quickly well these are all great questions um I can give just a few thoughts uh first on the Ukraine Russia War uh certainly he has said he wants to focus on negotiations focus on ending
the war but the question is how do we do that and how do you do that in a way that you're not empowering Russia to try the same thing a few years later uh of course Trump doesn't want look like he's giving in to Putin uh the American people certainly would not uh support that kind of solution so I think it's going to take time and the the question is how do you end the war in a way that you're not rewarding Russia and that you're not encouraging Russia to try the same kind of illegal unjustified invasion of another country one two
years down the line so I think that's a critical issue uh the second on East uh look uh the Trump Administration was a huge supporter of Israel um they will continue to support Israel um in its fight and I think that uh you know we have to look at the fact that um Netanyahu also um understands that that Trump uh does not like to see conflicts prolong um would not want to see the US get embroiled in the conflict uh so I think again you know I think Trump will be able to help the situation and perhaps get to a position where there
could be some kind of ceasefire or winding down of of this uh conflict as well and then lastly let me just say a few words about China um you know Trump had really uh set the policy uh toward China during his first term uh he had uh been very clear about restricting certain Technologies to China uh he had uh put in export controls um he had taken a very firm position on China's aggressive behavior uh toward other countries India being one of them of course to the uh 2020 gawan crisis um so I would expect that he would continue
uh with this strategy uh working with allies and partners in order to meet the China Challenge and more effectively compete uh this is this is the name of the game now the US is in compe with China all right Le Lisa um Tom Rose and and ponit thank you very much for joining us us I want to shift Focus to the second part of our program and that is on the US India bilateral relationship and somebody who's seen that from very close quarters is Mr s akarin former secretary to the ministry of external Affairs former spokesperson
of the ministry of external Affairs good morning to you from Washington DC Mr Akin I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress it is a new dawn in America it's a republican wave Trump is back in the White House what does it mean for the India us bilateral of course I want to start off with the whole trade question because Trump at least on the campaign uh has said that he's going to impose a 20% straight up tariff on All Imports into the United States and that includes imports from India uh what may that
mean so um zaka first of all um U changes in US Administration are not new to the Indian establishment uh We've navigated these changes successfully previously now on your um spe specific issue of trade and tariff uh yes these are challenges that uh uh globally everybody has to navigate and it's not that we haven't navigated trade related challenges with the US before for example in the last Trump Administration he withdrew the GSP um benefits for India um yes he's transactional but then big countries know how to work with each
other and um a give and take relationship is what Trump understands and countries like India and the Indian diplomatic establishment know how to uh engage in this um dialogue and I don't see this as a major threat of course uh he needs intends to promote his interests on a uh basis which is not only antithetical to India alone it is a intention that he wants to impose these sort of restrictions of 10 to 20% across the globe with some exception where their interests don't coincide like in China in terms of India us and
India interests coincide so there will be such um P Pricks but I don't see a Divergence in the big interest between the two countries I don't want to ask you about the China question because uh the feeling with the Biden Harris Administration uh at least in South block was that they distracted by what's going on in in West Asia the war there the Russia Ukraine war there uh they were not as much focused on China whereas with Trump and he said this publicly so many times both when he was president and also on the campaign he's
going to be squarely focused on what is the the the long-term challenge for the United States which is the rise of China uh do you think that would be good for India because India also has its own set of challenges with China so um yes um to the credit of uh the first Trump Administration they pivoted in a uh manner which no the administration had done in addressing the long-term challenges from China now uh India and us um interests converge in this area um for a variety of reasons uh which are pretty obvious uh and
therefore a convergence of Interest helps um in both the countries in working together and yes as you said uh if other issues or the other two Wars the two major Wars which are going on elsewhere in the world are addressed uh the focus will turn to issues uh uh relating to the common challenges faced by both India and China and other count uh sorry both India and the Us and other countries from uh a variety of um uh strategic um impulses from China having said that uh there is one other thing I think we also need to be of and that is
um the Republican Administration is less focused on um values than on interests and that's a good sign because interests are easy to um focus on values will always differ from perspectives which are different in both societies yeah I think that's a that's a great Point um especially on this whole business about kistan and all these separatist elements I think uh uh Trump won't be as uptight if I can use that word as the Democrat Administration has been but thank you very much Mr akarin for joining us I'm in fact going to go
across to one of your counterparts on the other side Ambassador Atul Kap is the president of the US India Business Council Ambassador kab I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress outside the Capital Hill uh it's a new morning in America it's a it's a red wave Trump is back in the white house as president the Republicans are in control of the Senate and will likely take the house as well uh what's your read what's your read of what went on uh last night because no nobody was predicting this kind of a landslide I mean the polls
were saying that was going to be extremely Clos it boils down to the Battlegrounds I think he's winning all seven Battlegrounds what what what exactly happened what what's your analysis well president Trump uh clearly ran on a CA uh campaign plank of keeping America strong uh and uh trying to uh address all of the wars and instability and ensuring the well-being of the American people so he clearly uh enjoyed a ground swell of support uh I think the great Victory last night was not only President Trump's but of American
democracy look at the American people queuing up and patiently voting in a free and fair election showing once again our passionate Devotion to democracy it's good for us it's good for all free people around the world so let's see what comes of it I do want to ask you about you know what Trump's agenda at least on the foreign policy front would be obviously he would be I mean his top two priorities would be the two Wars Israel Hamas and of course Russia Ukraine on Russia Ukraine he has said publicly on the campaign that he's going to end it
in day one he's going to end it in 24 hours he's basically going to tell zilinsky take it or leave it and he's going to shut off the eight his vice president uh now Vice President elect uh J Vance has said in as many words in the senate floor and otherwise that uh Ukraine should not be given American Aid uh you reckon that is is likely how Trump is going to play the Russia Ukraine war zaka I want to talk to you about us India relations I think that Trump who wrote The Art of the deal uh clearly is invested in making deals and I think
that us and India actually have an enormous opportunity to be ambitious so whatever happens in Russia Ukraine let's focus on Delhi and Washington let's focus on taking the US India strategic economic and technological convergence to the next level that's the critical work of the two great democracies of this planet what the reason I asked you that is because it has a knock-on effect I I know one sore point between the Biden Harris Administration and New Delhi was on India's import of Russian oil but be that as it may let's talk about what
what Trump's economic agenda is and what his plan is uh he's basically saying anywhere between 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the United States and that will surely affect Indian Imports into the United States as well would it well look this is where the president has president Trump has been very clear about the need for uh fair and balanced trade uh there H there have been structural imbalances in America's trade with many countries around the world uh since the pandemic we've also had Rising concerns about supply chain
vulnerability this is where again if Delhi and Washington play it well and if Delhi H understands the sensitivities of the American people as telegraphed through this election then I think there's an opportunity for both India and America to be entrepreneurial recall that in the last days of the Trump Administration in Trump one there was a very uh intense effort to try to forge a meaningful trade deal and I think that if both sides can get back to that there is a chance for both Delhi and Washington to be ambitious to achieve
some big things for both Indian and American people and to reinforce the connectivity between High trust Nations such as India and the United States and strengthen our supply chains but it does require that our partners understand the sensitivities and feelings of the American people uh um I I want to get one final word from Ambassador kha mukes AI is also joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum but Ambassador kop just on that question when Trump was President between 2016 and 2020 you know this I mean you had a
ringside view of this how he railed about you know the harleydavidson tariffs that India was imposing how he was upset about India buying S400 missile defense systems from Russia uh H how do you see that that sort of playing out I mean India's defense partnership for example even today despite the war and all of that almost 50% of India's defense Imports are from Russia well I also remember zaka that the president visited India uh to ahmadabad for that big rally he also hosted Prime Minister Modi in Houston Texas and so much else besides and I
vividly remember from my time in government that when India uh was facing the rather terrible challenge at gwan uh and made some requests of the United States uh for help uh in critical areas uh president Trump made a decision to rush that Aid to India because of the strength of the relationship between the Indian and American people so I think what will need to happen is clear conversations between Delhi and Washington uh in Trump to about the respective needs of one another and then serious work to forge an ambitious
agenda for continued strategic economic and technological convergence because it's important for both of us and it's frankly important for the stability and happiness of the world all right Ambassador kab thank you very much is always a pleasure speaking with you let's see uh if us India sees a new dawn under Trump 2.
0 mukes AI from the US India strategic partnership forum is also now joining us thank you very much Mr AI good morning to you I'm coming to you live from Washington DC outside the US Congress uh the Capital Hill uh just tell us I mean you're assessment your hot take of what exactly happened last night it's a massive Landslide for Donald Trump and the Republican Party well you had a very effective campaign by the Republican party they were organized their messaging was right which resonated with the people and you have a for the first time in last 20
years popular award also being won by the president the Senate and the White House and and waiting for the results on the house also so I think it seems to be a clean sweep for the president on his agenda and and that's going to be disrupted on a global basis uh I do want to talk to you about one of the big issues that Trump made on the campaign was about illegal immigration uh and when we were speaking to people you know around around the DC area over the last 2 or 3 days that we've been here you know including
people in the indian-american community the indian-american community wants more legal immigration into the United States and they were saying that the people who uh who illegal immigration affects most are actually the legal immigrants do you see Trump once he's done with this whole business of you know mass deportations or whatever it is that he wants to do to address the illegal immigration problem do you see him addressing the legal immigration issue as well because that system is also broken no absolutely I think you have to
understand uh the crying need for the US business Community is uh skills and Manpower women power and it's important to basically hire those people and there's a massive shortage especially in the tech world and what we are seeing is is the legal immigration is being impacted by the illegal we have around 16 million illegal immigrants and by the way the third largest uh illegal immigrants are now coming from India itself that has a percolative impact on the legal side so I think it's important we address that because if we don't
address that then the companies are not globally efficient effective and they need talent to be be able to build business both domestically and globally so he's also saying look I mean I know some of it could be campaign rhetoric he might turn it down when he is actually governing that this hold 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the us if not then you have to come and set up a plant here in the in the United States do you see this working because ultimately if there's going to be tariffs then um you know companies are
going to pass that on to the consumers it's not like they're doing this for for charity well uh the economists have estimated that if you put 20% tariff uh it has almost a uh uh 2% inflationary impact and also have almost a dramatic impact on the GDP growth also because at the end of the day it's a consumer which pays for that last time when the Tariff was set up we didn't see a massive movement of companies moving manufacturing back to the US you have to understand it's not all manufacturing will move back some will definitely move
back but overall there's a massive skill shortage what we will see is basically is that uh China will get impacted the most because the promise is to put 60% tariff on Chinese Goods coming into the country so a lot of us companies who are concerned about their supply chain concerned about their revenue and sales will look at other alternatives beside China to set of manufacturing yes high-end manufacturing may move back uh to the US but the the lowend manufacturing will stay in Asia and other part of the world and India can
play a very pivotal role and it's not just about being part of the global supply chain India also offered us companies Market opportunity you look at Apple which moved part of his manufacturing to India and his domestic Revenue has gone up over5 Billion doar itself so I think it's a combination of global supply chain drisking uh manufacturing and at the same time gaining market share and very quickly Mr Ari before we let you go uh obviously the the big foreign policy challenge the most immediate priority for him would be to
end the two Wars and Trump to his credit has been anti-war ever since he first ran as as a candidate in 2016 um how do you see him play both the Russia Ukraine war and the Israel Hamas War when you look at on the Ukraine and Russia front uh they made it very clear the Republican party that they will not anymore supply all the weapons and money to Ukraine itself and there has been some kind of a discussion with Putin so I think you will see some kind of a settlement happening on that war in the case of Middle East I believe they will
give a more free hand to n to go basically uh deal with the proxies which is the Hezbollah huis and Hamas itself but more important is is the stress point with China I think it's important to understand that both Republican and Democrats see China as a critical adversary both from a military side economic side and Technology side and that's where India becomes critical in the strategy of leveraging uh India to deal with encounter China itself and you have to understand that one area which we will see more focus is going to take
place places is quad the four countries which is Japan Australia India and the US and I believe the quad will percolate into the economic agreement also because you have four countries whose total GDP is around $35 trillion they can work together as a potential Common Market which will be an easier thing to do and that's going to basically affect India dealing with the Tariff of 20% also so we believe that while the focus is going to be initially Middle East and sorry Middle East and Ukraine but quad will play a pivotal role
also I think that's a great point because when Trump was President between 16 and 20 uh he was the one who gave so much impetus to move quad into a head of government uh sort of setting eventually of course the first head of summit head of state quad meeting happened when Biden became president uh but he did really really push the quad so I think that's a great Point made thank you very much Mukesh Ari for joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum uh it is a big big moment in America's political Journey no doubt about it
Donald Trump has managed to do something that no American president has done in over a 100 years gr Cleveland back in 1918 uh after he won a term then lost re-election came back after 4 years and then won a second term so for Trump this is a bit of redemption if you will this is a shot uh at creating history again making America great again as he keeps saying uh and I think the most important thing is Trump realizes that there is a broken system whether it's on immigration whether it's on economy and he has made a promise to the American
voters that he will fix it so the next four years we will uh we will wait and see uh whether or not he's able to live up to those uh High promises we'll take a quick break when we come back on the other side uh I've done a a quick walk through into what exactly happened why the Democrats got uh this election so wrong they were going into this election with a one straight narrow path strategy which was to win the blue wall States and then everything else will take care of it and that has simply come off the seams I'll explain that right on the
other side of this quick [Music] break addition it's the morning after election day and election night in America we're coming to you live from the US Capital Hill where the US Congress will now be shaded completely in red a republican is going to be the next president of the White House the Republicans have taken control of the US Senate and they are within Striking Distance of taking control of the House of Representatives which means once that happens the Republicans will have control of all three branches of
government here in the United States and that is a huge thing uh the last time that happened was in 2016 when uh Trump won all three branches of government he pipped Hillary Clinton but like I said a moment ago today's Victory is bigger than what Trump achieved back in 2016 it is bigger uh even in terms of Electoral College votes bigger than what Biden achieved 4 years ago so how did this come about we will get into the integrities we will dive into the numbers like I said Trump is on course to win all seven of the Swing States
Trump is winning the popular vote and by a margin he right now last I checked is at over 71 million votes across uh the United States and kamla Harris is at over 66 million votes no one said that Trump would win the popular vote by this kind of a margin this is way above the plus or minus three margin of error in the polls this is closer to 5% uh of the entire electorate and therefore this has been a sweeping a sweeping victory for the Republicans and for Donald Trump we will try and break it down for you as to
how he won and also take it Forward because he's got a lot of work to do both domestic Ally and internationally what are his priorities going to be we lay out the Trump agenda and the Trump vision for the first 100 days of the first uh you know first year at least because he has a lot of work to do both domestically and abroad uh this is how it played out in what has turned out to be a tremendous night for Trump the Republicans and of course uh a night of heartbreak for kamla Harris and the Democrats [Applause]
America great again oh and Powerful [Applause] mandate frankly this was I believe the greatest political movement of all time there's never been anything like this in this country and maybe Beyond you have some great senators and some great new senators and it also looks like we'll be keeping control of the House of Representatives we are going to start by all putting America first we have to put our country first for at least a period of time we have to fix it because together we can truly make America great again for all Americans we made history
for a reason tonight you know Trump has been running on this campaign of making America great again for the last 8 years and 70 million plus Americans have bought into that they bought into it in 2016 they bought into it in 2020 and they've boughten into it uh in 2024 but I think frankly what tilted the scales for Trump and this phenomenal this stunning comeback that we're seeing is the campaign line that he ran for the last few weeks saying Trump will fix it I think that resonated with a lot of Voters people were upset
they were angry about the economy about cost of living cost of groceries uh cost of housing had gone up and then of course a lot of Americans were upset about America's role in these two ongoing Wars and the fact that the Biden Harris Administration was doing nothing to stop these two Wars Trump simply said I know the country is broken I know the world is broken I'm the man to fix it Trump will fix it and I think a lot of Americans have bought into that message irrespective of whether they are white or African-American Or Hispanic or
Asian-American they have voted as Americans first and Trump has and his message of trump will fix it has resonated with Americans irrespective of racial divides or even gender divides which was of course stocked up by the Democrats in a big way uh going into election day let me now bring in our guests first part we will try and analyze how this stunning this stunning Republican wave how it was Mastered by Trump and his team over the last few weeks and months uh and then of course we will lay out the agenda forward
because he I I believe is going to fundamentally restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in ways that we haven't seen since God knows uh FDR back in the 1930s uh Tom Rose is a senior adviser to Mr Donald Trump he was also an adviser to the former vice president Mike Pence pun Adalia a former Republican candidate for left governor in Virginia AJ boria is Deputy National Finance chair of the democratic party Lisa Kurt is Deputy assistant uh uh uh Secretary of State and of course now she is uh the head of
uh the U uh the indo-pacific security Center at the center for New American Security Tom Rose uh good morning to you from Washington DC let me start with you I remember interviewing you a couple of weeks ago and you said you were very confident that Trump will win his message was resonating with uh uh with ordinary voters what is your first reading of this wave this Red Wave Trump has won all seven or at least on the verge of winning all seven of the Battleground States he's won the popular vote by over 5 percentage points that is
not something that the pollsters saw or the pundits saw or even the news media saw I think it's it's perhaps the most remarkable uh political story certainly in American history this man survived two impeachments 91 indictments 34 phony felony convictions uh two assassination attempts a lost presidential election or an FBI raid of his of his private home uh media collusion to destroy or delegitimize him the opposition in unison calling him the worst conceivable names comparing him to history's most bloodthirsty brutal
dictators and he comes out and he wins what could be 350 electoral votes out of the 538 total I think what it says is that the American people have had enough with the elite institutions and Elite voices that continually assume they know what's best for us and I think the American people rejected that this was a rainbow Victory president Trump won half of the Latino Or Hispanic vote unheard of George W bush yep in 2004 won 40% and everyone thought that was the high Watermark he won almost 30% of black men this was not
a white rage vote this was a multi-ethnic multi-racial landslide victory for a man who promises to fix America's great problems you know I think that's a fascinating uh Insight Tom Rose let me get Lisa Curtis in on this you were here Lisa couple coup days ago we were speaking about it uh you know I don't think anyone can say that this is the kind of whitelash uh uh verdict which which uh many said 2016 was uh you know the the the Forgotten America the left behinds was sort of raging Against The Establishment this is I mean like like
Tom Rose said he he has won more Hispanic Americans than any other Republican who ran for president uh he's won more of the male African-American vote than any one who ran for uh for president at least in the modern era from the Republican side uh you know and I was looking at this this place it's called Dearborn in Michigan it has the highest proportion of of Arab Americans in in America in any City you know who won there Donald Trump what does that say to the Democrats politics of appealing and pandering to to just race
and nothing else well I think it shows that uh president-elect Trump was able to connect with the voters um voters you know from all kinds of backgrounds minority voters as you point out he held steady with the women vote there was a lot of speculation you remember just two days ago zaka when we were speaking there was you know a lot of people talking about you know women were breaking for Kamala well I don't think these things happened in the end I think uh he was able to convince uh voters on uh his policies on
the economy on immigration those were two major issues uh for voters and also just that he would uh be able to fight for their interests uh protect their interests and so people basically just felt that uh he was going to be the leader who was going to look out for their own interests look out for the American people he showed himself to be a fighter um he he ran a very hard and and persistent campaign uh as you mentioned there were two assassination attempts against him I think it was a remarkable moment when you know he had
part of his ear shut off what did he do he stood up he pumped his fist um so not not everybody is is going to respond to an assassination attempt that way and I think this showed the kind of leader he is and that he really would fight for the American people and I I think that is what has won him um so Hand uh he he has won this handily people didn't expect that I myself I say uh you know I thought it would be a closer race you know I thought the polls were more neck and neck um but I think he has shown that uh he's got a very strong
mandate uh it's a very clear vote uh for him and his leadership and I think in the end of the day uh people basically thought he would be the Le leader to fight harder for their own interest and to protect America and everything it stands for you know I I think for me what was fascinating was um he was able to appeal to Americans You know despite or beyond their identities whether it is by race or by gender uh you know you look at you look at a problem like illegal immigration you could accuse Trump of you know simplifying it and making it uh
sound inhuman M and so on and so forth But ultimately there is a problem and that problem needs to be fixed who does illegal immigration affect the most it doesn't affect white Americans it affects legal IM immigrants into this country it affects the Hispanics and the African-Americans and the asian-americans disproportionately compared to how it affects white Americans and he was able to convey this message to those communities that look this is not about immigration this is about violent crime and these are people
who are coming to your neighborhoods infesting your neighbor hoods making your life difficult and a lot of people have bought into that message you look at you know one of the counties which has the highest proportion of uh Puerto Rican Americans in in in Pennsylvania uh and despite all the the rhetoric and the comedian who made that joke about PTO Ricans you know who won that County Donald Trump won that County so pun aluia what does that say I think it's got to a stage where politicians and this is not just here in America it's
across the world it's in India uh it's in it's in um other democracies you cannot just be playing identity politics you have to at the end of the day if you are the incumbent run on your record and show why your record is better than your opponents and if you're the anti-incumbent then say what you're going to do better than the incumbent to make the lives of ordinary people uh better and not just say oh you're African-American therefore you have to vote Democrat how can you dare think of voting for Trump you're Hispanic look at
all the stuff that Trump and his supporters are saying about uh Hispanics how can you dare vote for Trump that politics of just spering to a narrow racial identity is not working is not working anymore pun alalia well Victory and Vindication is the headline for president Trump and for the Republicans who have stood by him since 2016 or time he started but more importantly the message is that the Democratic party or the liberal leftist media and socialist social Elites want to have a view of America according to
them and this is a clear message for them look at we as Republicans we went through a process where we elected president Trump to be the next leader of the Republican party and what happened on the Democratic side is she was anointed as soon as they found out that Biden was incapable to lead the country or be the head of the uh leader of the democratic party and then what she said she had no message she had no message and we as Americans have been suffering for the last four 4 years after they inherited a very successful economy a
safe a safer world than before and and that retric of imposing on American people that he's a fascist he's a racist didn't sit well with people and now guess what they have lost handily and it's complete sweep so what it says is that identity politics is not here to say and all Arab Americans all Hispanic Americans Asian Americans what is one thing very common in them they're all American all impacted and affected by failed policies of the democratic party the wokeism has to stop the rule of law has to Prevail weaponizing of the doj
has to stop this country has to come together and we have to lead not just only for the American people but for the entire world look at the Bad actors Trump in Europe we have Putin and we have North Korea and Iran we need to find a way to resolve these issues and president Trump was so good in this as he started the Arab Arab the Abram Accord I think we'll find peace there we'll find a way to get the NATO to be stronger but the NATO Partners have to contribute more and at the same time China that's the biggest uh I would say
the gur in the room that we need to take on and find a way to neutralize that and do business with them and I believe President Trump is the Right leader at the right I'll get to the the forward agenda in just one second I yeah I want to get to aay boria for the Democrats I think one of the points that pun alalia made I think the fact that a the Democrats took too long to figure out that Joe Biden was not in a position uh to run again uh his mental equities was simply not there uh uh you know kamla Harris just had 107 days uh to make the
case to the American people that she was the alternative and clearly uh not many Americans have bought into that uh in fact you if you look at the popular vote if you look at the raw data uh she has about 66 million votes Which is less way less than what Biden got Biden got 81 million in the 2020 elections there are about 14 15 million Americans who've either not turned up or who voted for somebody else but they certainly have not voted for kamla Harris in fact her popular vote is even less than what Hillary Clinton got Hillary Clinton got
73 million I think uh in 2016 so it's about 56 million short of what Hillary Clinton got uh 8 years ago so either the candidate was unpopular and that point that Punit made I think is absolutely validly taken and please address that uh Mr boria you cannot impose a candidate on the American people he or she has to come through the the primary process and unfortunately in your party kamla Harris did not come through that primary process the last time she went through that primary process she was eliminated even before I think the first primary
ever happened well um first of all congratulations to President elect Trump and U as one of the speakers said I do admire all his strength going through so much and uh is still string strong to fight for uh American people and uh as Punit pointed out or you pointed out kamla had 117 days and to bring the case to who she is and what she stands for to the American people and I think she did a good fairly good job in uh getting her message across uh the American people have made it very clear choice that they want Trump to handle the economy the
immigration issues the the the wars and everything and to make the country more safe so uh uh that's a that's a choice American people have made and we go with that now the transition from President Biden to kamla I do agree that a lot of people within the party and a lot of people uh you know outside they did not like the way the transition was done I was knocking doors in the way County in Pennsylvania and uh we were talking about the undecided voters to say Hey you know you should be voting for kamla and one of the folk asked me that you
guys are talking about saving democracy and uh but you did not elect your candidate democratically so how are you going to protect Democratic I said yeah that's question so so that's a question with many voters great yeah many undecided voters had and I think that played out in favor of trump I think that's a fantastic point and I think that resonated uh W with the with the with the undecideds uh that's a great point that Mr Bor has made let me go back to to Tom Ros and try and take this forward what is Trump's agenda
going to be first domestically and then I'll ask Lisa about the international agenda but domestically Trump has basically and he said this over and over again in his campaign he is going to fundamentally restructure the American bureaucracy which means RFK Jr becomes Health secretary uh Elon Musk becomes the secretary for the Department of controlling government expenditure what have you uh and now he has the Mandate he's got a sweeping mandate the biggest that a republican has had I think since George W bush if not Ronald Reagan uh
and more importantly he has control of the Senate so he can get anyone appointed as secretary or Ambassador uh in the next two years still till they have control of the Senate so how may you think Trump is going to restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in particular well I think he's been uh I think he's zaka been very clear about what he wants to do we need a closed border we need a fixed immigration system we need Mass deportation of illegal criminals in the United States of whom there are hundreds of thousands
he now has the ability to begin to do that but let's not forget zaka that the administrative State the bureaucracy if you will the civil service is still in place the legal system is still in place the uh the Democrats the left are not going to roll over uh and die they'll file lawsuit after lawsuit or injunction after injunction they'll get their judges to try and stop and that's the way our democracy works I'm not uh uh necessarily complaining about that we have a system of checks and balances designed to ensure that not
one single branch of government is uh supreme or has more power than the others but on the judicial side we now have three members of the Supreme Court who are over 70 years old two of those are conservative one is liberal uh we might see um uh some retirements on the court now that uh we're assured that they can be replaced by conservative uh uh uh judges so as significant and as important as this election is uh our American system of government is designed to slow things down it's built with sand in the gears if you will to
ensure that there can't be uh a dramatic radical change without popular mandates now Trump has a significant popular mandate he's been very clear about what he wants to do his main objectives he'll be able to accomplish but some of the broader thematic themes uh I think we're still going to have to wait and see all right let me also go across to CNN reporter Ivan Rodriguez is joining us from West Palm Beach Florida uh he's of course been keeping an eye ey out on the Trump campaign uh Trump came out and spoke last night to his supporters
massive massive win um I know that CNN has still not projected Michigan Arizona or Nevada yet but Trump is leading in all three states and if he were to win all three this would be a bigger mandate for him than what he won in 2016 uh he's effectively going to win all seven Battleground States how did this come about uh Ivan what's the what's the read in in Trump HQ on how this Landslide was brought about will zanka I I'd even say that in the Trump Camp they'd argue even without winning Arizona Nevada it's a landslide
Victory uh because it really has been surprising to see even earlier last night how much of a lead he was gaining in those key Battleground States I will tell you though that what we're hearing from a lot of Voters in States across the country let's even just focus on those Battlegrounds which had a lot to say in terms of who was going back to that White House the e economy was the number one issue and we're looking at things like inflation grocery prices gas prices housing market a lot of things uh in that sector have been worrisome to
the American uh population to the greater population uh and although inflation isn't necessarily Rising anymore it also hasn't gone any lower per se so prices have remained pretty much high at that point so every time someone goes back to the grocery store they're still looking at those high prices Trump and his campaign did a good job of being able to tie Harris to that Biden presidency and remind people in a way that she is no different than Biden if you vote for her you're going to get the same thing that you got for uh from
President Biden but it really is so overwhelming and we look at we look across the electoral map right that blue wall what Democrats say is so important to them Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania Trump flipping Pennsylvania Trump also flipping Wisconsin uh we were we were talking yesterday even if he was just able to get one of those it was going to be crucial to his White House Victory but now looking at the map he could walk away as you mentioned with Michigan as well would mean a complete overhaul of that blue wall which Biden was able to
flip uh it back in 2020 but States like Georgia they were gone Republican again uh uh North Carolina which Democrats were eager to possibly flip uh that remained uh under that GOP win Arizona Nevada I mean at this point like you mentioned it doesn't really matter what happens in those States but if they do uh go Trump's way is just even more of a sense of just how much of an overwhelming Victory it was not only in the Electoral College but also winning the popular vote yeah uh I think last I checked like I said Trump had 71 million kamla Harris
had about 66 million Biden had 81 million so that's about 13 14 million less uh who have voted for the Democrats you know why they didn't do that I guess pundits will sort of scratch their heads and do their analysis about that but I'm coming to you Ian from the US Congress from the US Capital Hill uh and this is going to be a different uh government now because you have a republican in the White House you have Republicans in control of the Senate and they are within Striking Distance of uh taking or winning the House of Representatives
what does that mean for Trump in his second term uh both in terms of appointments and also his agenda I mean look yesterday we saw uh Trump very excited for the fact that the GOP was able to secure uh control of the Senate uh you can only imagine uh he's very closely watching those key races in the house uh because if he is able uh to secure the house I mean it really opens up the door for uh his new government now uh to do a lot of the things that he had uh said along the campaign trail that he had wanted uh to do a lot of
these things do require Congressional approval uh although a lot of things have been said along along the campaign Trail right uh for example tax on tips to help uh other sort of policies a lot of them uh zaka require that help from Congress all right Ivan we'll leave it with that thank you very much Ivan Rodriguez at West Palm Beach Florida uh tracking the Trump campaign and of course there was a big party there uh after yesterday's speech Trump gave a big speech and he said that the country is broken and we need to to fix it we
need to put America first that's been his messaging that's been his messaging for the last 8 years but let me go to Lisa Curtis and take this forward now obviously you know there's a big domestic agenda but there's also a big foreign policy agenda for Donald Trump uh there are two Wars uh he has been an anti-war candidate all along right from the first time he ran in 2016 uh he might respond differently to the two Wars on Russia Ukraine he said publicly he will end it within 24 hours he will basically tell zilinsky take it or leave
it what does that mean and two also on the Israel Hamas question now that you know I I just gave you the example of Dearborn Michigan where Arab Americans have voted overwhelmingly for Trump how does he play the Israel Hamas War does he give uh Netanyahu more of a more of a blank check or does he tell him okay go ahead finish the job but also end this war quickly well these are all great questions um I can give just a few thoughts uh first on the Ukraine Russia War uh certainly he has said he wants to focus on negotiations focus on ending
the war but the question is how do we do that and how do you do that in a way that you're not empowering Russia to try the same thing a few years later uh of course Trump doesn't want to look like he's giving in to pu uh the American people certainly would not uh support that kind of solution so I think it's going to take time and the the question is how do you end the war in a way that you're not rewarding Russia and that you're not encouraging Russia to try the same kind of illegal unjustified invasion of another country one two
years down the line so I think that's a critical issue uh the second on Middle East uh look uh the Trump Administration was a huge supporter of Israel um they will continue to support Israel um in its fight and I think that uh you know we have to look at the fact that um Netanyahu also um understands that that Trump uh does not like to see conflicts prolong um would not want to see the US get embroiled in the conflict uh so I think again you know I think Trump will be able to help the situation and perhaps get to a position where there
could be some kind of ceasefire or winding down of of this uh conflict as well and then lastly let me just say a few words about China um you know Trump had really uh set the policy uh toward China during his first term uh he had uh been very clear about restricting certain Technologies to China uh he had uh put in export controls um he had taken a very firm position on China's aggressive behavior uh toward other countries India being one of them of course to the uh 2020 gawan crisis um so I would expect that
he would continue uh with this strategy uh working with allies and partners in order to meet the China Challenge and more effectively compete uh this is this is the name of the game now the US is in competition with China all right Le Lisa um Tom Rose and and ponit thank you very much for joining us us I want to shift Focus to the second part of our program and that is on the US India bilateral relationship and somebody who's seen that from very close quarters is Mr s akarin former secretary to the ministry
of external Affairs former spokesperson of the ministry of external Affairs good morning to you from Washington DC Mr Akin I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress it is a new dawn in America it's a republican wave Trump is back in the White House what does it mean for the India us bilateral of course I want to start off with the whole trade question because Trump at least on the campaign uh has said that he's going to impose a 20% straight up tariff on All Imports into the United States and that includes imports from
India uh what may that mean so um zaka first of all um U changes in US Administration are not new to the Indian establishment uh We've navigated uh these changes successfully previously now on your um specific uh issue of uh trade and tariff uh yes um these are challenges uh that uh globally everybody has to navigate and it's not that we haven't navigated trade related challenges with the us before for example in the last Trump Administration he withdrew the GSP um benefits for India um yes he's transactional but then
big countries know how to work with each other and um a give and take relationship is what Trump understands and countries like India and the Indian diplomatic establishment know how to uh engage in this um dialogue and I don't see this as a major threat of course uh he needs intends to promote his on a uh basis which is not only antithetical to India alone it is a intention that he wants to impose these sort of restrictions of 10 to 20% across the globe with some exceptions uh where their interest don't coincide like in
China in terms of India us and India interests coincide so they will be such um P Pricks but I don't see a Divergence in the big interest between the two countries I don't want to ask you about the China question because uh the feeling with the Biden Harris Administration uh at least in South block was that they distracted by what's going on in in West Asia the war there the Russia Ukraine war there uh they were not as much focused on China whereas with Trump and he said this publicly so many times both when he was
president and also on the campaign he's going to be squarely focused on what is the the the long-term challenge for the United States which is the rise of China uh do you you think that would be good for India because India also has its own set of challenges with China so um yes um to the credit of uh the first Trump Administration they uh pivoted in a uh manner which no other administration had done in addressing their long-term challenges from China now uh India and us um interests converge in this area um for a variety
of reasons uh which are pretty obvious uh and therefore a convergence of Interest helps um in both the countries in working together and yes as you said uh if other issues or the other two Wars the two major Wars which are going on elsewhere in the world are addressed uh the focus will turn to issues uh uh uh relating to the common challenges faced by both India and China and other count sorry both India and the Us and other countries from uh a variety of um uh strategic um impulses from China said that uh there
is one other thing I think we also need to be of and that is um the Republican Administration is less focus on um values than on interests and that's a good sign because interests are easy to um focus on values will always differ from perspectives which are uh different in both societies yeah I think that's a that's a great Point um especially on this whole business about kistan and all these separatist elements I think uh uh Trump won't be as uptight if I can use that word as the Democrat Administration has
been but thank you very much Mr akarin for joining us I'm in fact going to go across to one of your counterparts on the other side Ambassador Atul kab is the president of the US India Business Council Ambassador Kap I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress outside the Capital Hill uh it's a new morning in America it's a it's a red wave Trump is back in the white house as president the Republicans are in control of the Senate and will likely take the house as well uh what's your read what's your read of what went on uh last night
because nobody was predicting this kind of a land slide I mean the polls were saying that was going to be extremely close it boils down to the Battlegrounds I think he's winning all seven Battlegrounds what what what exactly happened what's your analysis well president Trump uh clearly read on a campaign plank of keeping America strong uh and uh trying to address all of the wars and instability and ensuring the well-being of the American people so he clearly uh enjoyed a ground swell of support uh I think the
great Victory last night was not only President Trump's but of American democracy look at the American people queuing up and patiently voting in a free and fair election showing once again our passionate Devotion to democracy it's good for us it's good for all free people around the world so let's see what comes of it I do want to ask you about you know what Trump's agenda at least on the foreign policy front would be obviously he would be I mean his top two priorities would be the two Wars Israel Hamas and of course Russia Ukraine on
Russia Ukraine he has said publicly on the campaign that he's going to end it in day one he's going to end it in 24 hours he's basically going to tell zilinsky take it or leave it and he's going to shut off the eight his vice president uh now Vice president-elect uh JD Vance has said in as many words in the senate floor and otherwise that uh Ukraine should not be given American Aid uh you reckon that is is likely how Trump is going to play the Russia Ukraine war zaka I want to talk to you about us India relations I think that Trump who
wrote The Art of the deal uh clearly is invested in making deals and I think that us and India actually have an enormous opportunity to be ambitious so whatever happens in Russia Ukraine let's focus on Delhi and Washington let's focus on taking the US India strategic economic and technological convergence to the next level that's the critical work of the two great democracies of this planet what the reason I asked you that is because it has a knock-on effect I I know one sore point between the Biden Harris Administration and New Delhi was
on India's import of Russian oil but be that as it may let's talk about what what Trump's economic agenda is and what his plan is is uh he's basically saying anywhere between 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the United States and that will surely affect Indian Imports into the United States as well w't it well look this is where the president has president Trump has been very clear about the need for uh fair and balanced trade uh there H there have been structural imbalances in America's trade with many countries around the world uh
since the pandemic we've also had Rising concerns about supply chain vulnerability this is where again if Delhi and Washington play it well and if Delhi H understands the sensitivities of the American people as telegraphed through this election then I think there's an opportunity for both India and America to be entrepreneurial recall that in the last days of the Trump Administration in Trump one there was a very uh intense effort to try to forge a meaningful trade deal and I think that if both sides can get back to that there
is a chance for both Delhi and Washington to be ambitious to achieve some big things for both Indian and American people and to reinforce the connectivity between High trust Nations such as India and the United States and strengthen our supply chains but it does require that our partners understand the sensitivities and feelings of the American people uh um I I want to get one final word from Ambassador kab mukes AI is also joining us from the US India strategic partnership for for him but Ambassador kop just on that question
when Trump was President between 2016 and 2020 you know this I mean you had a ringside view of this how he railed about you know the harleydavidson tariffs that India was imposing how he was upset about India buying S400 uh missile defense systems from Russia uh H how do you see that that sort of playing out I mean India's defense partnership for example even today despite the war and all of that uh almost 50% of India's defense Imports are from Russia well I also remember zaka that the president visited India uh to
ahmadabad for that big rally he also hosted Prime Minister Modi in Houston Texas and so much else besides and I vividly remember from my time in government that when India uh was facing the uh rather terrible challenge at gwan uh and made some requests of the United States uh for help uh in critical areas uh president Trump made a decision to rush that Aid to India because of the strength of the relationship between the Indian and American people so I think what will need to happen is clear conversations between Delhi and
Washington uh in Trump 2 about the respective needs of one another and then serious work to forge an ambitious agenda for continued strategic economic and technological convergence because it's important for both of us and it's frankly important for the stability and happiness of the world all right Ambassador kab thank you very much is always a pleasure speaking with you let's see uh if us India sees a new Dawn under Trump 2.
0 mukes AI from the US India strategic partnership forum is also now joining us thank you very much Mr AI good morning to you I'm coming to you live from Washington DC outside the US Congress uh the Capital Hill uh just tell us I mean your assessment your hot take of what exactly happened last night it's a massive Landslide for Donald Trump and the Republican Party well you had a very effective campaign by the Republican party they were organized their messaging was right which resonated with the people and you have a for the first time in last 20
years popular award also being won by the president the Senate and the White House and and we're waiting for the results on the house also so I think it seems to be a clean sweep for the president on his agenda and and that's going to be disrupted on a global basis uh I do want to talk to you about one of the big issues that Trump made on the campaign was about illegal immigration uh and when we were speaking to people you know around around the DC area over the last 2 or 3 days that we've been here you know including people in the
indian-american community the indian-american community wants more legal immigration into the United States and they were saying that the people who uh who IL legal immigration affects most are actually the legal immigrants do you see Trump once he's done with this whole business of you know mass deportations or whatever it is that he wants to do to address the illegal immigration problem do you see him addressing the legal immigration issue as well because that system is also broken no absolutely I think you have to
understand uh the crying need for the US business Community is uh skills and Manpower women power and it's important to basically hire those people and there's a massive shortage especially in the tech world and what we are seeing is is the legal immigration is being impacted by the illegal we have around 16 million illegal immigrants and and by the way the third largest uh illegal immigrants are now coming from India itself that has a percolative impact on the legal side so I think it's important we address that because if we don't
address that then the companies are not globally efficient effective and they need talent to be be able to build business uh both domestically and globally so he's also saying look I mean I know some of it could be campaign rhetoric he might turnone it down when he is governing that this hold 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the us if not then you have to come and set up a plant here in the in the United States do you see this working because ultimately if there's going to be tariffs then um you know companies are
going to pass that on to the consumers it's not like they're doing this for for charity well uh the economists have estimated that if you put 20% tarff uh it has almost a uh uh 2% inflationary impact and also have almost a dramatic impact on the GDP growth also because at the end of the day it's the consumer which pays for that last time when the Tariff was set up we didn't see a massive movement of companies moving manufacturing back to the US you have to understand it's not all manufacturing will move back some will definitely move
back but overall there's a massive skill shortage what we will see is basically is that uh China will get impacted the most because the promise is to put 60% tariff on Chinese Goods coming into the country so a lot of us companies who are concerned about their supply chain concerned about their revenue and sales will look at other Alternatives beside China to set of manufacturing yes high-end manufacturing may move back uh to the US but the the low-end manufacturing will stay in Asia and other part of the world and India can
play a very pivotal role and it's not just about being part of the glob supply chain India also offered us companies Market opportunity you look at Apple which moved part of his manufacturing to India and his domestic Revenue has gone up over5 Billion Dollar itself so I think it's a combination of global supply chain drisking uh manufacturing and at the same time gaining market share and very quickly Mr AI before we let you go uh obviously the the big foreign policy challenge the most immediate priority for him would be to
end the two Wars and Trump to his credit credit has been anti-war ever since he first ran as as a candidate in 2016 um how do you see him play both the Russia Ukraine war and the Israel Hamas War when you look at on the Ukraine and Russia front uh they made it very clear the Republican party that they will not anymore supply all the weapons and money to Ukraine itself and there has been some kind of a discussion with Putin so I think you will see some some kind of a settlement happening on that war in the case of Middle East I believe they will
give a more free hand to naani to go basically uh deal with the proxies which is the Hezbollah huis and Hamas itself but more important is is the stress point with China I think it's important to understand that both Republican and Democrats see China as a critical adversary both from military side economic side and Technology side and that's where India becomes critical in the strategy of leveraging uh India to deal with encounter China itself and you have to understand that one area which we will see more focus is going to take
place is is quad are the four countries which is Japan Australia India and the US and I believe the quad will percolate into the economic agreement also because you have four countries whose total GDP is around $35 trillion they can work together as a potential Common Market which will be an easier thing to do and that's going to basically affect India dealing with the Tariff of 20% also so we believe that while the focus is going to be initially Middle East and Europe sorry Middle East and Ukraine but quad
will play a pivital role also I think that's a great point because when Trump was President between 16 and 20 uh he was the one who gave so much impetus to move quad into a head of government uh sort of setting eventually of course the first head of summit head of state quad meeting happened when Biden became president uh but he did really really push the quad so I think that's a great Point made thank you very much Mukesh Ari for joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum uh it is a big big moment in America's
political Journey no doubt about it Donald Trump has managed to do something that no American president has done in over a 100 years Grover Cleveland back in 1918 uh after he won a term then lost re-election came back after 4 years and then won a second term so for Trump this is a bit of redemption if you will this is a shot uh at creating history again making America great again as he keeps saying uh and I think the most important thing is Trump realizes that there is a broken system whether it's on immigration whether it's on economy and
he has made a promise to the American voters that he will fix it so the next four years we will uh we will wait and see uh whether or not he's able to live up to those uh High promises we'll take a quick break when we come back on the other side uh I've done a a quick walk through into what exactly happened why the Democrats got uh this election so wrong they were going into this election with a one straight narrow path strategy which was to win the blue wall States and then everything else will take care of it and that has simply come off the
seams I'll explain that right on the other side of this quick break [Music] addition it's the morning after election day and election night in America we're coming to you live from the US Capital Hill where the US Congress will now be shaded completely in dread a republican is going to be the next Resident of the White House the Republicans have taken control of the US Senate and they are within Striking Distance of taking control of the House of Representatives which means once that happens the Republicans will have control of all
three branches of government here in the United States and that is a huge thing uh the last time that happened was in 2016 when uh Trump won all three branches of government he pipped Hillary Clinton but like I said a moment ago today's Victory is bigger than what Trump achieved back in 2016 it is bigger uh even in terms of Electoral College votes bigger than what Biden achieved 4 years ago so how did this come about we will get into the integrities we will die dive into the numbers like I said Trump is on course to win all seven of
the Swing States Trump is winning the popular vote and by a margin he right now last I checked is at over 71 million votes across uh the United States and kamla Harris is at over 66 million votes no one said that Trump would win the popular vote by this kind of a margin this is way above the plus or minus 3 margin of error in the polls this is closer to 5% uh of the entire electorate and therefore this has been a sweeping a sweeping victory for the Republicans and for Donald Trump we will try and break it down for you as to how he won and
also take it Forward because he's got a lot of work to do both domestically and internationally what are his priorities going to be we lay out the Trump agenda and the Trump vision for the first uh 100 days or the first uh you know first year at least because he has a lot of work to do both domestically and abroad uh this is how it played out in what has turned out to be a tremendous night for Trump the Republicans and of course a night of heartbreak for kamla Harris and the [Applause] Democrats America great again
oh and Powerful M day [Applause] frankly this was I believe the greatest political movement of all time there's never been anything like this in this country and maybe Beyond you have some great senators and some great new senators and it also looks like we'll be keeping control of the House of representativ we are going to start by all putting America First with we have to put our country first for at least a period of time we have to fix it because together we can truly make America great again for all Americans we made history
for a reason tonight you know Trump has been running on this campaign of making America great again for the last 8 years and 70 million plus Americans have bought into that they bought into it in 2016 they bought into it in 2020 and they've boughten into it uh in 2024 but I think frankly what tilted the scales for Trump and this phenomenal this stunning comeback that we're seeing is the campaign line that he ran for the last few weeks saying Trump will fix it I think that resonated with a lot of Voters people were upset they were angry
about the economy about cost of living cost of groceries uh cost of housing had gone up and then of course a lot of Americans were upset about America's role in these two ongoing Wars and the fact that the Biden Harris Administration was doing nothing to to stop these two Wars Trump simply said I know the country is broken I know the world is broken I'm the man to fix it Trump will fix it and I think a lot of Americans have bought into that message irrespective of whether they are white or African-American Or Hispanic or
Asian-American they have voted as Americans first and Trump has and his message of trump will fix it has resonated with Americans irrespective of racial divides or even gender divides which was of course stocked up by the Democrats in a big way uh going into ction day let me now bring in our guests first part we will try and analyze how this stunning this stunning Republican wave how it was Mastered by Trump and his team over the last few weeks and months uh and then of course we will lay out the agenda forward because he I I
believe is going to fundamentally restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in ways that we haven't seen since God knows uh FDR back in the 1930s uh Tom Rose is a senior adviser to Mr Donald Trump he was also an adviser to the former vice president Mike Pence pun Aralia a former Republican candidate for left governor in Virginia AJ boria is Deputy National Finance chair of the democratic party Lisa Kurt is Deputy assistant uh uh Secretary of State and of course now she is uh the head of uh the U uh the
indo-pacific security Center at the center for New American Security Tom Rose uh good morning to you from Washington DC let me start with you uh I remember interviewing you a couple of weeks ago and you said you were very confident that Trump will win his message was resonating with uh with ordinary voters what is your first reading of this wave this Red Wave Trump has won all seven or at least is on the verge of winning all seven of the Battleground States he's won the popular vote by over 5 percentage points that is
not something that the pollster saw or the pundits saw or even the news media saw I think it's it's perhaps the most remarkable uh political story certainly in American history this man survived two impeachments 91 indictments 34 phony felony convictions uh two assassination attempts a lost presidential election or an FBI raid of his of his private home uh media collusion to destroy or delegitimize him the opposition in unison calling him the worst conceivable names comparing him to history's most bloodthirsty brutal
dictators and he comes out and he wins what could be 315 electoral votes out of the 538 total I think what it says is that the American people have had enough with the elite institutions and Elite voices that continually assume they know what's better best for us and I think the American people rejected that this was a rainbow Victory president Trump won half of the Latino Or Hispanic vote unheard of George W bush yep in 2004 won 40% and everyone thought that was the high water mark he won almost 30% of black men this
was not a white rage vote this was a multi-ethnic multi-racial Landslide victory for a man who promises to fix America's great problems you know I think that's a fascinating uh Insight tomrose let me get Lisa Curtis in on this uh you were here Lisa a couple of days ago we were speaking about it uh you know I don't think anyone can say that this is the kind of whitelash uh uh verdict which which uh many said 2016 was uh you know the the the Forgotten America the left behinds was sort of raging against the establishment
this is I mean like like Tom Rose said he he has won more Hispanic Americans than any other Republican who ran for president uh he's won more of the male African-American vote than any one who ran for uh for president at least in the modern era from the Republican side uh you know and I was looking at this this place it's called Dearborn in Michigan it has the highest proportion of of Arab Americans in in America in any City you know who won there Donald Trump what does that say to the Democrats politics of appealing and pandering to to just
race and nothing else well I think it shows that uh president-elect Trump was able to connect with the voters um voters you know from all kinds of backgrounds minority voters as you point out he held steady with the women vote there was a lot of speculation you remember just two days ago zaka when we were speaking there was you know a lot of people talking about you know women were breaking for Kamala well I don't think these things happened in the end I think uh he was able to convince uh voters on uh his policies on the economy on
immigration those were two major issues uh for voters and also just that he would uh be able to fight for their interests uh protect their interests and so people basically just felt that uh he was going to be the leader who was going to look out for their own interests look out for the American people he showed himself to be a fighter um he he ran a very hard and and persistent campaign uh as you mentioned there were two assassination attempts against him I think it was a remarkable moment when you know he had part of his ear shut off
what did he do he stood up he pumped his fist um so not not everybody is is going to respond to an assassination attempt that way and I think this showed the kind of leader he is and that he really would fight for the American people and I I think that is what has won him um so handily uh he he has won this handily people didn't expect that I myself I say uh you know I thought it would be a closer race you know I thought the holes were more neck and neck um but I think he has shown that uh he's got a very strong mandate uh it's a very clear vote
uh for him and his leadership and I think in the end of the day uh people basically thought he would be the leader to fight harder for their own interest and to protect America and everything it stands for you know I I think for me what was fascinating was um he was able to appeal to Americans you know despite or beyond their identities whether it is by race or by gender uh you know you look at look at a problem like illegal immigration you could accuse Trump of you know simplifying it and making it uh sound inhumane and so on and so forth
But ultimately there is a problem and that problem needs to be fixed who does illegal immigration affect the most it doesn't affect white Americans it affects legal IM immigrants into this country it affects the Hispanics and the African-Americans and the asian-americans disproportionately compared to how it affects white Americans and he was able to convey this message to those communities that look this is not about immigration this is about violent crime and these are people who are coming to your neighborhoods infesting your
neighborhoods making your life difficult and a lot of people have bought into that message you look at you know one of the counties which has the highest proportion of uh Puerto Rican Americans in in in Pennsylvania uh and despite all the the rhetoric and the comedian who made that joke about Puerto Ricans you know who won that County Donald Trump won that County so pun alalia what does that say I think it's got to a stage where politicians and this is not just here in America it's across the world it's in India uh it's in it's in um
other democracies you cannot just be playing identity politics you have to at the end of the day if you are the incumbent run on your record and show why your record is better than your opponents and if you're the anti-incumbent then say what you're going to do better than the incumbent to make the lives of ordinary people uh better and not just say oh you're African-American therefore you have to vote Democrat how can you dare think of voting for Trump you're Hispanic look at all the stuff that Trump and his
supporters are saying about uh Hispanics how can you dare vote for Trump that politics of just spering to a narrow racial identity is not working is not working anymore pun alalia well Victory and Vindication is the headline for president Trump and for the Republicans who have stood by him since 2016 or time he started but more importantly the message is that the Democratic party or the liberal leftist media and socialist social Elites want to have a view of America according to them and this is a clear message for
them look at we as Republicans we went through a process where we elected president Trump to be the next leader of the Republican party and what happened on the Democratic side is she was anointed as soon as the found out that Biden was incapable to lead the country or be the head of the uh leader of the democratic party and then what she said she had no message she had no message and we as Americans have been suffering for the last four years after they inherited a very successful economy a safe a safer world than before and and
that rhetoric of imposing on American people that he's a fascist he's a racist didn't sit well with people and now guess what they lost handily and it's complete sweep so what it says is that identity politics is not here to say and all Arab Americans all Hispanic Americans asian-americans what is one thing very common in them they're all American they're all impacted and affected by failed policies of the democratic party the wokeism has to stop the rule of law has to Prevail weaponizing of the doj has to stop this
country has to come together and we have to lead not just only for the American people but for the entire world look at the Bad actors Trump in Europe we have Putin and we have North Korea and Iran we need to find a way to resolve these issues and president Trump was so good in this as he started the Arab Arab the Abram Accord I think we'll find peace there we'll find a way to get the NATO to be stronger but the NATO Partners have to contribute more and at the same time China that's the biggest uh I would say the gur in the room that we need to
take on and find a way to neutralize that and do business with them and I believe President Trump is the Right leader at the right I'll get to the the forward agenda in just one second I yeah I want to get to Ajay boria for the Democrats I think one of the points that pun aluia made I think the fact that a the Democrats took too long to figure out that Joe Biden was not in a position uh to run again uh his mental equities was simply not there uh uh you know kamla Harris just had 107 days uh to make the case to the American
people that she was the alternative and clearly uh not many Americans have bought into that uh in fact you if you look at the popular vote if you look at the raw data uh she has about 66 million votes Which is less way less than what Biden got Biden got 81 million in the 2020 elections so they're about 14 15 million Americans who've either not turned up or who voted for somebody else but they certainly have not voted for kamla Harris in fact her popular vote is even less than what Hillary Clinton got Hillary Clinton got 73 million I think
uh in 2016 so it's about about 5 six million short of what Hillary Clinton got uh 8 years ago so either the candidate was unpopular and that point that Punit made I think is absolutely validly taken and please address that uh Mr boria you cannot impose a candidate on the American people he or she has to come through the the primary process and unfortunately in your party kamla Harris did not come through that primary process the last time she went through that primary process she was eliminated even before I think the first primary
ever happened well uh first of all congratulations to President elect Trump and as one of the speakers said I do admire all his strength going through so much and uh is still string strong to fight for uh American people and U as Punit pointed out or you pointed out kamla had 117 days and to bring the case to who she is and what she stands for to the American people and I think she did a good fairly good job in uh getting her message across uh the American people have made it very clear choice that they want Trump to handle the economy the
immigration issues the the the wars and everything and to make the country more safe so uh that's a that's a choice American people have made and we go with that now the transition from President Biden to kamla I do agree that a lot of people within the party and a lot of people uh you know outside they did not like the way the transition was was done I was knocking doors in the way County in Pennsylvania and we were talking about the undecided voters to say Hey you know you should be voting for kamla and one
of the folk asked me that you guys are talking about saving democracy and uh but you did not elect your candidate democratically so how are you going to protect Democratic I said yeah that's a question so so that's a question with many voters undd yeah many undecided voters had and I think that played out in favor of trump I think that's a fantastic point and I think that resonated uh W with the with the with the undecideds uh that's a great point that Mr Bor has made let me go back to to Tom Rose and to try and
take this forward what is Trump's agenda going to be first domestically and then I'll ask Lisa about the international agenda but domestically Trump has basically and he said this over and over again in his campaign he is going to fundamentally restructure the American bureaucracy which means RFK Jr becomes Health secretary uh Elon Musk becomes the secretary for the Department of controlling government expenditure what have you uh and now he has the Mandate he's got a sweeping mandate the biggest that a republican has had I think since
George W bush if not Ronald Reagan uh and more importantly he has control of the Senate so he can get anyone appointed as secretary or Ambassador uh in the next two years still till they have control of the Senate so how may you think Trump is going to restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in particular well I think he's been uh I think he's zaka been very clear about what he wants to do we need a closed border we need a fixed immigration system we need Mass deportation of illegal criminals in the United States
of whom there are hundreds of thousands he now has the ability to begin to do that but let's not forget zaka that the administrative State the bureaucracy if you will the civil service is still in place the legal system is still in place the uh the Democrats the left are not going to roll over uh and die they'll file lawsuit after lawsuit or injunction after injunction they'll get their judges to try and stop and that's the way our democracy works I'm not uh uh necessarily complaining about that we have a system of check and balances
designed to ensure that not one single branch of government is uh supreme or has more power than the others but on the judicial side we now have three members of the Supreme Court who are over 70 years old two of those are conservative one is liberal uh we might see um uh some retirements on the court now that uh we're assured that they can be replaced by conservative uh uh uh judges so as significant and as important as this election is uh our American system of government is designed to slow things down it's built with sand in the gears
if you will to ensure that there can't be uh a dramatic radical change without popular mandates now Trump has a significant popular mandate he's been very clear about what he wants to do his main objectives he'll be able to accomplish but some of the broader thematic themes uh I think we're still going to have to wait and see all right let me also go across to CNN reporter Ivan Rodriguez is joining us from West Palm Beach Florida uh he's of course been keeping an eye out on the Trump campaign uh Trump came out and
spoke last night to his supporters massive massive win um I know that CNN has still not projected Michigan Arizona or Nevada yet but Trump is leading in all three states and if you were to win all three this would be a bigger mandate for him than what he won in 2016 uh he's effectively going to win all seven Battleground States how did this come about uh Ivan what's the what's the read in in Trump HQ on how this Landslide was brought about uh well zanka I I'd even say that in the Trump Camp they'd argue even
without winning Arizona Nevada it's a landslide Victory uh because it really has been surprising to see even earlier last night how much of a lead he was gaining in those key Battleground States I will tell you though that what we're hearing from a lot of Voters in States across the country let's even just focus on those Battlegrounds which had a lot to say in terms of who was going back to that white house uh the economy was the number one issue and we're looking at things like inflation grocery prices gas
prices housing market a lot of things uh in that sector have been worrisome to the American uh population to the greater population uh and although inflation isn't necessarily Rising anymore it also hasn't gone any lower per se so prices have remained pretty much high at that point so every time someone goes back to the grocery store they're still looking at those high prices Trump and his campaign did a good job of being able to tie Harris to that Biden presidency and remind people in a way that she is no different than Biden
if you vote for her you're going to get the same thing that you got for from President Biden but it really is so overwhelming and we look at we look across the electoral map right that blue wall what Democrats say is so important to them Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania Trump flipping Pennsylvania Trump also flipping Wisconsin uh we were we were talking yesterday even if he was just able to get one of those it was going to be crucial to his White House Victory but now looking at the map he could walk away as you mentioned with Michigan as
well would mean a complete overhaul of that blue wall which Biden was able to flip uh it back in 201 20 but States like Georgia they were gone Republican again uh North Carolina which Democrats were eager to possibly flip uh that remained uh under that GOP win Arizona Nevada I mean at this point like you mentioned it doesn't really matter what happens in those States but if they do uh go Trump's way is just even more of a sense of just how much of an overwhelming Victory it was not only in the Electoral College but also winning
the popular vote yeah uh I think last I checked like I said Trump had 71 million kamla Harris had about 66 million Biden had 81 million so that's about 13 14 million less uh who have voted for the Democrats you know why they didn't do that I guess pundits will sort of scratch their heads and do their analysis about that but I'm coming to you Ian from the US Congress from the US Capital Hill uh and this is going to be a different uh government now because you have a republican in the White House you have Republicans in
control of the Senate and are within Striking Distance of uh taking or winning the House of Representatives what does that mean for Trump in his second term uh both in terms of appointments and also his agenda I mean look yesterday we saw Trump very excited for the fact that the GOP was able to secure uh control of the Senate uh you can only imagine he's very closely watching those key races in the house uh because if he is able uh to secure the house I mean it really opens up the door for uh his new government
now uh to do a lot of the things that he had uh said along the campaign trail that he had wanted uh to do a lot of these things do require Congressional approval uh although a lot of things have been said along along the campaign Trail right uh for example tax on tips to help uh other sort of policies a lot of them uh zaka require that help from Congress all right Ivan we'll leave it with that thank you very much Ivan Rodriguez at West Palm Beach Florida uh tracking the Trump campaign and of course there was a
big party there uh after yesterday's speech Trump gave a big speech and he said that the country is broken and we need to fix it we need to put America first that's been his messaging that's been his messaging for the last8 years but let me go to Lisa Curtis and take this forward now obviously you know there's a big domestic agenda but there's also a big foreign policy agenda for Donald Trump uh there are two Wars uh he has been an anti-war candidate all along right from the first time he ran in 2016 uh he might respond differently
to the two Wars on Russia Ukraine he said publicly he will end it within 24 hours he will basically tell zilinsky take it or leave it what does that mean and two also on the Israel Hamas question now that you know I I just gave you the example of Dearborn Michigan where Arab Americans have voted overwhelmingly for Trump how does he play the Israel Hamas War does he give uh Netanyahu more of a more of a blank check or does he tell him okay go ahead finish the job but also end this war quickly well these are all great
questions um I can give just a few thoughts uh first on the Ukraine Russia War uh certainly he has said he wants to focus on negotiations focus on ending the war but the question is how do we do that and how do you do that in a way that you're not empowering Russia to try the same thing a few years later uh of course Trump doesn't want to look like he's giving in to Putin uh the American people certainly would not uh support that kind of solution so I think it's going to take time and the the question is how do you end the war in a way that
you're not rewarding Russia and that you're not encouraging Russia to try the same kind of illegal unjustified invasion of another country one two years down the line so I think that's a critical issue uh the second on Middle East uh look uh the Trump Administration was a huge supporter of Israel um they will continue to support Israel um in its fight and I think that uh you know we have to look at the fact that um Netanyahu also um understands that that Trump uh does not like to see conflicts prolong um would not want to see the US
get embroiled in the conflict uh so I think again you know you know I think Trump will be able to help the situation and perhaps get to a position where there could be some kind of ceasefire or winding down of of this uh conflict as well and then lastly let me just say a few words about China um you know Trump had really uh set the policy uh toward China during his first term uh he had uh been very clear about restricting certain Technologies to China uh he had uh put in export controls um he had taken a very firm position on China's
aggressive behavior uh toward other countries India being one of them of course to the uh 2020 gawan crisis um so I would expect that he would continue uh with this strategy uh working with allies and partners in order to meet the China Challenge and more effectively compete uh this is this is the name of the game now the US is in competion with China all right Le Lisa um Tom Rose and and ponit thank you very much for joining us us I want to shift Focus to the second part of our program and that is on the US India bilateral
relationship and somebody who's seen that from very close quarters is Mr s akarin former secretary to the ministry of external Affairs former spokesperson of the ministry of external Affairs good morning to you from Washington DC Mr Akin I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress it is a new dawn in America it's a republican wave Trump is back in the White House what does it mean for the India us bilateral of course I want to start off with the whole trade question because Trump at least on the campaign has said that he's
going to impose a 20% straight up tariff on All Imports into the United States and that includes imports from India uh what may that mean so zaka first of all um U changes in US Administration are not new to the Indian establishment uh We've navigated these changes successfully previously now on your um specific issue of trade and tariff uh yes these are challenges that globally everybody has to navigate and it's not that we haven't navigated trade related challenges with the US before for example in the last
Trump Administration he withdrew the GSP um benefits for India um yes he's transactional but then big countries know how to work with each other and um a give and take relationship is what Trump understands and countries like India and the Indian diplomatic establishment know how to engage in this um dialogue and I don't see this as a major threat of course uh he needs intends to promote his interests on um uh basis which is not only antithetical to India alone it is a intention that he wants to impose these sort of
restrictions of 10 to 20% across the globe with some exceptions uh where they interest don't coincide like in China in terms of India us and India interests coincide so they will be such um P Pricks but I don't see a Divergence in the big interest between the two countries I don't want to ask you about the China question because uh the feeling with the Biden Harris Administration uh at least in South block was that they distracted by what's going on in in West Asia the war there the Russia Ukraine war there uh they not
as much focused on China whereas with Trump and he said this publicly so many times both when he was president and also on the campaign he's going to be squarely focused on what is the the the long-term challenge for the United States which is the rise of China uh do you think that would be good for India because India also has its own set of challenges with China so um yes um to the credit of uh the first Trump Administration they uh pivoted in a uh manner which no other administration had done in addressing
the long-term challenges from China now uh India and us um interests converge in this area um for a variety of reasons uh which are pretty obvious uh and therefore a convergence of Interest helps um in both the countries in working together and yes as you said uh if other issues or the other two Wars the two major Wars which are going on elsewhere in the world are addressed uh the focus will turn to issues uh uh uh relating to the common challenges faced by both India and China and other count sorry both India and the Us and other
countries from uh a variety of um uh strategic um impulses from China having said that uh there is one other thing I think we also need to be inent of and that is um the Republican Administration is less focused on um values than on interests and that's a good sign because interests are easy to um focus on values will always differ from perspectives which are different in both societies yeah I think that's a that's a great Point um especially on this whole business about kistan and all these separatist elements I think uh uh Trump
won't be as uptight if I can use that word as the Democrats Administration has been but thank you very much Mr akarin for joining us I'm in fact going to go across to one of your counterparts on the other side Ambassador Atul kab is the president of the US India Business Council Ambassador Kap I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress outside the Capital Hill uh it's a new morning in America it's a it's a red wave Trump is back in the white house as president the Republicans are in control of the Senate and will likely take the
house as well uh what's your read what's your read of what went on uh last night because nobody was predicting this kind of a Landslide I mean the polls were saying that was going to be extremely Clos it boils down to the Battlegrounds I think he's winning all seven Battlegrounds what what what exactly happened what what's your analysis well president Trump uh clearly ran on a CA uh campaign plank of keeping America strong uh and uh trying to uh address all of the wars and instability and ensuring the well-being of the
American people so he clearly uh enjoyed a ground swell of support uh I think the great Victory last night was not only President Trump's but of American democracy look at the American people queuing up and patiently voting in a free and fair election showing once again our passionate Devotion to democracy it's good for us it's good for all free people around the world so let's see what comes of it I do want to ask you about you know what Trump's agenda at least on the foreign policy front would be obviously
he would be I mean his top two priorities would be the two Wars Israel Hamas and of course Russia Ukraine on Russia Ukraine he has said publicly on the campaign that he's going to end it in day one he's going to end it in 24 hours he's basically going to tell zilinsky take it or leave it and he's going to shut off the eight his vice president uh now Vice president-elect uh jry Vance is said in as many words in the senate floor and otherwise that uh Ukraine should not be given American Aid uh you reckon that is is likely how
Trump is going to play the Russia Ukraine war zaka I want to talk to you about us India relations I think that Trump who wrote The Art of the deal uh clearly is invested in making deals and I think that us and India actually have an enormous opportunity to be ambitious so whatever happens in Russia Ukraine let's focus on Delhi and Washington let's focus on taking the US India strategic economic and technological convergence to the next level that's the critical work of the two great democracies of this planet what the reason I asked you that
is because it has a knock-on effect I I know one sore point between the Biden Harris Administration and New Delhi was on India's import of Russian oil but be that as it may let's talk about what what Trump's economic agenda is and what his plan is uh he's basically saying anywhere between 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the United States and that will surely affect Indian Imports into the United States as well won't it well look this is where the president has president Trump has been very clear about the need for uh fair and balanced
trade uh there H there have been structural imbalances in America's trade with many countries around the world uh since the pandemic we've also had Rising concerns about supply chain vulnerability this is where again if Deli and Washington play it well and if Deli H understands the sensitivities of the American people as telegraphed through this election then I think there's an opportunity for both India and America to be entrepreneurial recall that in the last days of the Trump Administration in Trump 1 there was a
very uh intense effort to try to forge a meaningful trade deal and I think that if both sides can get back to that there is a chance for both Delhi and Washington to tend to be ambitious to achieve some big things for both Indian and American people and to reinforce the connectivity between High trust Nations such as India and the United States and strengthen our supply chains but it does require that our partners understand the sensitivities and feelings of the American people uh um I I want to get one final
word from Ambassador kab mukes AI is also joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum but Ambassador kab just on that question when Trump was President between 2016 and 2020 you know this I mean you had a ringside view of this how he railed about you know the Holly Davidson tariffs that India was imposing how he was upset about India buying S400 uh missile defense systems from Russia uh H how do you see that that sort of playing out I mean India's defense partnership for example even today despite the war
and all of that uh almost 50% of India's defense Imports are from Russia well I also remember zaka that the president visited India uh to aminabad for that big rally he also hosted Prime Minister Modi in Houston Texas and so much else besides and I vividly remember from my time in government that when India uh was facing the uh rather terrible challenge at gwan uh and made some requests of the United States uh for help uh in critical areas uh president Trump made a decision to rush that Aid to India because of the
strength of the relationship between the Indian and American people so I think what will need to happen is clear conversations between Delhi and Washington uh in Trump 2 about the respective needs of one another and then serious work to forge an ambitious agenda for continued strategic economic and technological conver because it's important for both of us and it's frankly important for the stability and happiness of the world all right Ambassador kab thank you very much is always a pleasure speaking with you let's see uh if us India sees a
new dawn under Trump 2. o mukes AI from the US India strategic partnership forum is also now joining us thank you very much Mr AI good morning to you I'm coming to you live from Washington DC outside the US Congress uh the Capital Hill uh just tell us I mean your assessment your hot take of what exactly happened last night it's a massive Landslide for Donald Trump and the Republican Party well you had a very effed campaign by the Republican party they were organized their messaging was right which resonated with the people and you
have a for the first time in last 20 years popular award also being won by the president the Senate and the White House and and waiting for the results on the house also so I think it seems to be a Clean Sweep for the president on his agenda and and that's going to be disrupted on a global basis uh I do want to talk to you about one of the big issues that Trump made on the campaign was about illegal immigration uh and when we were speaking to people you know around around the DC area over the last 2 or 3 days that
we've been here you know including people in the indian-american community the indian-american community wants more legal immigration into the United States and they were saying that the people who uh who illegal immigration affects most are actually the legal immigrants do you see Trump once he's done with this whole business of you know mass deportations or whatever it is that he wants to do to address the illegal immigration problem do you see him addressing the legal immigration issue as well because that
system is also broken no absolutely I think you have to understand uh the crying need for the US business Community is uh skills and manow women power and it's important to basically hire those people and there's a massive shortage especially in the tech world and what we are seeing is is the legal immigration is being impacted by the illegal we have around 16 million illegal immigrants and and by the way the third largest uh illegal immigrants are now coming from India itself that has a percolative impact on the legal
side so I think it's important we address that because if we don't address that then the companies are not globally efficient effective and they need talent to be be able to build business both domestically and globally so he's also saying look I mean I know some of it could be campaign rhetoric he might turn it down when he is actually governing that this whole 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the us if not then you have to come and set up a plant here in the in the United States do you see this working because
ultimately if there's going to be tariffs then um you know companies are going to pass that on to the consumers it's not like they're doing this for for charity well uh the economists have estimated that if you put 20% tariff uh it has almost a uh uh 2% inflationary impact and also have almost a dramatic impact on the GDP growth also because at the end of the day it's the consumer which pays for that last time when the Tariff was set up we didn't see a massive movement of companies moving manufacturing back to the US us you have
to understand it's not all manufacturing will move back some will definitely move back but overall there's a massive skill shortage what we will see is basically is that uh China will get impacted the most because the promises to put 60% tariff on Chinese Goods coming into the country so a lot of us companies who are concerned about their supply chain concern about their revenue and sales will look at other Alternatives beside China to set up manufact facturing yes high-end manufacturing may move back uh to the US but the the lowend
manufacturing will stay in Asia and other part of the world and India can play a very pivotal role and it's not just about being part of the global supply chain India also offered us companies Market opportunity you look at Apple which moved part of his manufacturing to India and his domestic Revenue has gone up over5 Billion itself so I think it's a combination of global supply chain drisking uh manufact facturing and at the same time gaining market share and very quickly Mr AI before we let you go uh obviously the the big
foreign policy challenge the most immediate priority for him would be to end the two Wars and Trump to his credit has been anti-war ever since he first ran as as a candidate in 2016 um how do you see him play both the Russia Ukraine war and the Israel Hamas War when you look at on the Ukraine and Russia front uh they made it very clear the Republican party that they will not anymore supply all the weapons and money to Ukraine itself and there has been some kind of a discussion with Putin so I think you will see some kind of a
settlement happening on that war in the case of Middle East I believe they will give a more free hand to nathu to go basically uh deal with the proxies which is the Hezbollah huis and Hamas itself but more important is is the stress point with China I think it's important to understand that both Republican and Democrats see China as a critical adversary both from a military side economic side and Technology side and that's where India becomes critical in the strategy of leveraging uh India to deal with encounter China itself and you
have to understand that one area which we will see more focus is going to take place is is quad the four countries which is Japan Australia India and the US and I believe the quad will percolate into the economic agreement also because you have four countries whose total GDP is around $35 trillion they can work together as a potential Common Market which will be an easier thing to do and that's going to basically affect India dealing with the Tariff of 20% also so we believe that while the focus is going to be initially Middle East and Europe
sorry Middle East and Ukraine but quad will play a pivotal role also I think that's a great point because when Trump was President between 16 and 20 uh he was the one who gave so much impetus to move quad into a head of government uh sort of setting eventually of course the first head of summit a head of state quad meeting happened when Biden became president uh but he did really really push the quad so I think that's a great Point made thank you very much mesari for joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum uh it
is a big big moment moment in America's political Journey no doubt about it Donald Trump has managed to do something that no American president has done in over 100 years gr Cleveland back in 1918 uh after he won a term then lost re-election came back after 4 years and then won a second term so for Trump this is a bit of redemption if you will this is a shot uh at creating history again making America great again as he keeps saying uh and I think the most important thing is Trump realizes that there is a broken system whether it's on
immigration whether it's on economy and he has made a promise to the American voters that he will fix it so the next four years we will uh we will wait and see uh whether or not he's able to live up to those uh High promises we'll take a quick break when we come back on the other side uh I've done a a quick walk through into what exactly happened why the Democrats got uh this election so wrong they were going into this election with a one straight narrow path strategy which was to win the blue wall States and then everything else will take care
of it and that has simply come off the seams I'll explain that right on the other side of this quick [Music] break addition it's the morning after election day and election night in America we're coming to you live from the US Capital Hill where the US Congress will now be shaded completely in rad a republican is going to be the next president of the White House the Republicans have taken control of the US Senate and they are within Striking Distance of taking control of the House of Representatives which means once that
happens the Republicans will have control of all three branches of government here in the United States and that is a huge thing uh the last time that happened was in 2016 when uh Trump won all three branches of government he pipped Hillary Clinton but like I said a moment ago today's Victory is bigger than what Trump achieved back in 2016 it is bigger uh even in terms of Electoral College votes bigger than what Biden achieved four years ago so how did this come about we will get into the integrities we will dive into the
numbers like I said Trump is on course to win all seven of the Swing States Trump is winning the popular vote and by a margin he right now last I check is at over 71 million votes across the United States and kamla is at over 66 million votes no one said that Trump would win the popular vote by this kind of a margin this is way above the plus or minus 3 margin of error in the polls this is closer to 5% uh of the entire electorate and therefore this has been a sweeping a sweeping victory for the Republicans and for Donald Trump we will
try and break it down for you as to how he won and also take it Forward because he's got a lot of work to do both domestically and internationally what are his priorities going to be we lay out the Trump agenda and the Trump vision for the first uh 100 days or the first uh you know first year at least because he has a lot of work to do both domestically and abroad uh this is how it played out in what has turned out to be a tremendous night for Trump the Republicans and of course a night of heartbreak for kamla Harris and the
Democrats [Applause] America great again oh and Powerful [Applause] mandate frankly this was I believe the greatest political movement of all time there's never been anything like this in this country and maybe Beyond you have some great senators and some great new senators and it also looks like we'll be keeping control of the House of represent we are going to start by all putting America first we have to put our country first for at least a period of time we have to fix it because together we can truly make America great again
for all Americans we made history for a reason tonight you know Trump has been running on this campaign of making America great again for the last 8 years and 70 million plus Americans have bought into that they bought into it in 2016 they bought into it in 2020 and they've boughten into it uh in 2024 but I think frankly what tilted the scales for Trump and this phenomenal the stunning comeback that we're seeing is the campaign line that he ran for the last few weeks saying Trump will fix it I think that resonated
with a lot of Voters people were upset they were angry about the economy about cost of living cost of groceries uh cost of housing had gone up and then of course a lot of Americans were upset about America's role in these two ongoing Wars and the fact that the Biden Harris Administration was doing nothing to stop these two Wars Trump simply said I know the country is broken I know the world is broken I'm the man to fix it Trump will fix it and I think a lot of Americans have bought into that message irrespective of whether they are white
or African-American Or Hispanic or Asian American they have voted as Americans first and Trump has and his message of trump will fix it has resonated with Americans irrespective of racial divides or even gender divides which was of course stocked up by the Democrats in a big way uh going into election day let me now bring in our guest first part we will try and analyze how this stunning this stunning Republican wave how it was Mastered by Trump in his team over the last few weeks and months uh and then of course we will lay out the agenda
forward because he I I believe is going to fundamentally restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in ways that we haven't seen since God knows uh FDR back in the 1930s uh Tom Rose is a senior adviser to Mr Donald Trump he was also an adviser to the former vice president Mike Pence pun Aralia former Republican candidate for left governor in Virginia AJ boria is Deputy National Finance chair of the democratic party Lisa CT is Deputy assistant uh uh Secretary of State and of of course now she is uh the head of
uh the U uh the indo-pacific security Center at the center for New American Security Tom Rose uh good morning to you from Washington DC let me start with you I remember interviewing you a couple of weeks ago and you said you were very confident that Trump will win his message was resonating with uh uh with ordinary voters what is your first reading of this wave this Red Wave Trump has won all seven or at least is on the verge of winning all seven of the Battleground States he's won the popular vote by over 5 percentage points that is
not something that the pollster saw or the pundit saw or even the news media saw I think it's it's perhaps the most remarkable uh political story certainly in American history this man survived two impeachments 91 indictments 34 phony felony convictions uh two assassin ation attempts a lost presidential election an FBI raid of his of his private home uh media collusion to destroy or delegitimize him the opposition in unison calling him the worst conceivable names comparing him to history's most bloodthirsty brutal
dictators and he comes out and he wins what could be 315 electoral votes out of the 38 total I think what it says is that the American people have had enough with the elite institutions and Elite voices that continually assume they know what's best for us and I think the American people rejected that this was a rainbow Victory president Trump won half of the Latino Or Hispanic vote unheard of George W bush yep in 2004 won 40% and everyone thought that was the high water mark he won almost 30% of black men this was not a white rage vote
this was a multi-ethnic multi-racial landslide victory for a man who promises to fix America's great problems you know I think that's a fascinating uh Insight tomrose let me get Lisa Curtis in on this uh you were here Lisa a couple of days ago we were speaking about it uh you know I don't think anyone can say that this is the kind of white lash uh uh verdict which which uh many said 2016 was uh you know the the the Forgotten America the left behinds was sort of raging Against The Establishment this is I mean like like Tom Rose said he he has
won more Hispanic Americans than any other Republican who ran for president uh he's won more of the male African-American vote than any one who ran for uh for president at least in the modern era from the Republican side uh you know and I was looking at this this place it's called Dearborn in Michigan it has the highest proportion of of Arab Americans in in America in any City you know who won there Donald Trump what does that say to the Democrats politics of appealing and pandering to to just race and nothing
else well I think it shows that uh president-elect Trump was able to connect with the voters um voters you know from all kinds of backgrounds minority voters as you pointed out he held steady with the women vote there was a lot of speculation you remember just two days ago zaka when we were speaking there was you know a lot of people talking about you know women were breaking for Kamala well I don't think these things happened in the end I think uh he was able to convince uh voters on uh his policies on the economy on
immigration those were two major issues uh for voters and also just that he would uh be able to fight for their interests uh protect their interests and so people basically just felt that uh he was going to be the leader who was going to look out for their own interests look out for the American people he showed himself to be a fighter um he he ran a very hard and and persistent campaign uh as you mentioned there were two assassination attempts against him I think it was a remarkable moment when you know he had part of his ear shut off
what did he do he stood up he pumped his fist um so not not everybody is is going to respond to an assassination attempt that way and I think this showed the kind of leader he is and that he really would fight for the American people and I I think that is what has won him um so handily uh he he has won this handily people didn't expect that I myself I say uh you know I thought it would be a closer race you know I thought the holes were more neck and neck um but I think he has shown that uh he's got a very strong mandate
uh it's a very clear vote uh for him and his leadership and I think in the end of the day uh people basically thought he would be the leader to fight harder for their own interest and to protect America and everything it stands for you know I I think for me what was fascinating was um he was able to appeal to Americans You know despite or beyond their identities whether it is by race or by gender uh you know you look at you look at a problem like illegal immigration you could accuse Trump of you know simplifying it and making it uh
sound inhumane and so on and so forth but ultim Ely there is a problem and that problem needs to be fixed who does illegal immigration affect the most it doesn't affect white Americans it affects legal IM immigrants into this country it affects the Hispanics and the African-Americans and the asian-americans disproportionately compared to how it affects white Americans and he was able to convey this message to those communities that look this is not about immigration this is about violent crime and these are people
who are coming to your neighborhoods infesting your neighborhoods making your life difficult and a lot of people have bought into that message you look at you know one of the counties which has the highest proportion of uh Puerto Rican Americans in in in Pennsylvania uh and despite all the the rhetoric and the comedian who made that joke about Puerto Ricans you know who won that County Donald Trump won that County so pun aluia what does that say I think it's got to a stage where politicians and this is not just here in America it's
across the world it's in India uh it's in it's in um other democracies you cannot just be playing identity politics you have to at the end of the day if you are the incumbent run on your record and show why your record is better than your opponents and if you're the anti-incumbent then say what you're going to do better than the incumbent to make the lives of ordinary people uh better and not just say oh you're African-American therefore you have to vote Democrat how can you dare think of voting for Trump you're Hispanic look at
all the stuff that Trump and his supporters are saying about Hispanics how can you dare vote for Trump that politics of just pandering to a narrow racial identity is not working is not working anymore pun alalia well Victory and Vindication is the headline for president Trump and for the Republicans who have stood by him since 2016 or time he started but more importantly the message is that the Democratic party or the liberal leftist media and socialist social Elites want to have a view of America according to
them and this is the clear message for them look at we as Republicans we went through a process where we elected president Trump to be the next leader of the Republican party and what happened on the Democratic side is she was anointed as soon as they found out that Biden was incapable to lead the country or be the head of the uh leader of the democratic party and then what she said she had no message she had no message and we as Americans have been suffering for the last four years after they inherited a very successful economy a
safe a safer world than before and and that rhetoric of imposing on American people that he's a fascist he's a racist didn't sit well with people and now guess what they have lost handily and it's complete sweep so what it says is that identity politics is not here to say and all Arab Americans all Hispanic Americans asian-americans what is one thing very common in them they're all American they're all impacted and affected by failed policies of the democratic party the wokeism has to stop the rule of law has to Prevail
weaponizing of the doj has to stop this country has to come together and we have to lead not just only for the American people but for the entire world look at the Bad actors fromp in Europe we have Putin and we have North Korea and Iran we need to find a way to resolve these issues and president Trump was so good in this as he started the Arab Arab the Abram Accord I think we'll find peace there we'll find a way to get the NATO to be stronger but the NATO Partners have to contribute more and at the same time China that's the biggest uh I would
say the gur in the room that we need to take on and find a way to neutralize that and do business with them and I believe President Trump is the Right leader the right I'll get to the the forward agenda in just one second I yeah I want to get to a boria for the Democrats I think one of the points that pun alalia made I think the fact that a the Democrats took too long long to figure out that Joe Biden was not in a position uh to run again uh his mental equities was simply not there uh uh you know kamla Harris just had 107 days uh
to make the case to the American people that she was the alternative and clearly uh not many Americans have bought into that uh in fact you if you look at the popular vote if you look at the raw data uh she has about 66 million votes Which is less way less than what Biden got Biden got 81 million in the 2020 election so they're about 14 15 million Americans who've either not turned up or who voted for somebody else but they certainly have not voted for KLA Harris in fact her popular vote is even less than what Hillary Clinton got Hillary
Clinton got 73 million I think uh in 2016 so it's about 56 million short of what Hillary Clinton got uh 8 years ago so either the candidate was unpopular and that point that Punit made I think is absolutely validly taken and please address that uh Mr boria you cannot impose a candidate on the American people he or she has to come through the the primary process and unfortunately in your party kamla Harris did not come through that primary process the last time she went through that primary process she was eliminated even before I
think the first primary ever happened well um first of all congratulations to president-elect Trump and uh as one of the speakers said I do admire all his strength going through so much and is still string strong to fight for uh American people and U as the pun pointed out out or you pointed out kamla had 117 days and to bring the case to who she is and what she chains for to the American people and I think she did a good fairly good job in uh getting her message across uh the American people have made it very clear choice that they
want Trump to handle the economy the immigration issues the the the wars and everything and to make the country more safe so uh that's a that's a choice American people have made and we go with that now the transition from President Biden to kamla I do agree that a lot of people within the party and a lot of people uh you know outside they did not like the way the transition was done I was knocking doors in the Wayne County in Pennsylvania and uh we were talking about the undecided voters to say Hey you know you should be voting for kamla
and one of the folk asked me that you guys are talking about saving democracy and uh but you did not elect your candidate democratically so how are you going to protect Democratic I said yeah that's a question so so that's a question with many voters unded yeah many undecided voters had and I think that played out in favor of trump I think that's a fantastic point and I think that resonated uh W with the with the with the undecideds uh that's a great point that Mr Bor has made let me go back to to Tom Rose and to try and
take this forward what is Trump's agenda going to be first domestically and then I'll ask Lisa about the international agenda but domestically Trump has basically and he said this over and over again in his campaign he is going to fundamentally restructure the American bureaucracy which means RFK Jr becomes Health secretary uh Elon Musk becomes the secretary for the Department of controlling government expenditure what have you uh and now he has the Mandate he's got a sweeping mandate the biggest that a republican has had I think since
George W bush if not Ronald Reagan uh and more importantly he has control of the Senate so he can get anyone appointed as secretary or Ambassador uh in the next two years till till they have control of the Senate so how may you think Trump is going to restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in particular well I think he's been uh I think he's zaka been very clear about what he wants to do we need a closed border we need a fixed immigration system we need Mass deportation of illegal criminals in the United States
of whom there are hundreds of thousands he now has the ability to begin to do that but let's not forget Saka that the administrative State the bureaucracy if you will the civil service is still in place the legal system is still in place the uh the Democrats the left are not going to roll over uh and die they'll file lawsuit after lawsuit or injunction after injunction they'll get their judges to try and stop and that's the way our democracy works I'm not uh uh necessarily complaining about that we have a system of checks and balances
designed to ensure that not one single branch of government is uh supreme or has more power than the others but on the judicial side we now have three members of the Supreme Court who are over 70 years old two of those are conservative one is liberal uh we might see um uh some retirements on the court now that uh we're assured that they can be replaced by conservative uh uh uh judges so as significant and as important as this election is uh our American system of government is designed to slow things down it's built
with sand in the gears if you will to ensure that there can't be uh a dramatic radical change without popular mandates now Trump has a significant popular mandate he's been very clear about what he wants to do his main objectives he'll be able to accomplish but some of the broader thematic themes uh I think we're still going to have to wait and see all right let me also go across to CNN reporter Ivan Rodriguez is joining us from West Palm Beach Florida uh he's of course been keeping an eye out on the Trump campaign Trump came out and spoke
last night to his supporters massive massive win um I know that CNN has still not projected Michigan Arizona or Nevada yet but Trump is leading in all three states and if he were to win all three this would be a bigger mandate for him than what he won in 2016 uh he's effectively going to win all seven Battleground States how did this come about uh Ivan what's the what's the read in in Trump HQ on how this Landslide was brought about uh will zanka I I'd even say that in the Trump Camp they'd argue even without
winning Arizona Nevada it's a landslide Victory uh because it really has been surprising to see even earlier last night how much of a lead he was gaining in those key Battleground States I will tell you though that what we're hearing from a lot of Voters in States across the country let's even just focus on those Battlegrounds which had a lot to say in terms of who was going back to that white house uh the economy was the number one ISS issue and we're looking at things like inflation grocery prices gas prices housing market a lot of
things uh in that sector have been worrisome to the American uh population to the greater population uh and although inflation isn't necessarily Rising anymore it also hasn't gone any lower per se so prices have remained pretty much high at that point so every time someone goes back to the grocery store they're still looking at those high prices Trump and his campaign did a good job of being being able to tie Harris to that Biden presidency and remind people in a way that she is no different than Biden if you vote for her
you're going to get the same thing that you got for uh from President Biden but it really is so overwhelming and we look at we look across the editorial map right that blue wall what Democrats say is so important to them Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania Trump flipping Pennsylvania Trump also flipping Wisconsin uh we were we were talking yesterday even if he was just able to get one of those it was going to be crucial to his White House Victory but now looking at the map he could walk away as you mentioned with Michigan as
well would mean a complete overhaul of that blue wall which Biden was able to flip uh it back in 2020 but States like Georgia they were gone Republican again uh uh North Carolina which Democrats were eager to possibly flip uh that remained uh under that GOP win Arizona Nevada I mean at this point like you mentioned it doesn't really matter what happens in those States but if they do uh go Trump's way is just even more of a sense of just how much of an overwhelming Victory it was not only in the Electoral College but also winning
the popular vote yeah uh I think last I checked like I said Trump had 71 million KLA Harris had about 66 million Biden had 81 million so that's about 13 14 million less uh who have voted for the Democrats you know why they didn't do that I guess pundits will sort of scratch their heads and do their analysis about that but I'm coming to you Ian from the US Congress from the US Capital Hill uh and this is going to be a different uh government now because you have a republican in the White House you have Republicans in
control of the Senate and they are within Striking Distance of uh taking or winning the House of Representatives what does that mean for Trump in his second term uh both in terms of appointments and also his agenda I mean look yesterday we saw Trump very excited for the fact that the GOP was able to secure uh control of the Senate uh you can only imagine uh he's very closely watching those key races in the house uh because if he is able uh to secure the house I mean it really opens up the door for uh his new government
now uh to do a lot of the things that he had uh said along the campaign trail that he' wanted to do a lot of these things do require Congressional approval uh although a lot of things have been said along the campaign Trail right uh for example tax on tips to help uh other sort of policies a lot of them uh zaka require that help from Congress all right Ivan we'll leave it with that thank you very much Ian Rodriguez at West Palm Beach Florida uh tracking the Trump campaign and of course there was a big party there uh
after yesterday's speech Trump gave a big speech and he said that the country is broken and we need to fix it we need to put America first that's been his messaging that's been his messaging for the last 8 years but let me go to Lisa Curtis and take this forward now obviously you know there's a big domestic agenda but there's also a big foreign policy agenda for Donald Trump uh there are two Wars uh he has been an anti-war candidate all along right from the first time he ran in 2016 uh he might respond differently to the two
Wars on Russia Ukraine he said publicly he will end it within 24 hours he will basically tell zalinsky take it or leave it what does that mean and two also on the Israel Hamas question now that you know I I just gave you the example of Dearborn Michigan where Arab Americans have voted overwhelmingly for Trump how does he play the Israel Hamas War does he give uh Netanyahu more of a more of a blank check or does he tell him okay go ahead finish the job but also end this war quickly well these are all great questions um I can give just a few
thoughts uh first on the Ukraine Russia War uh certainly he has said he wants to focus on negotiations focus on ending the war but the question is how do we do that and how do you do that in a way that you're not empowering Russia to try the same thing a few years later uh of course Trump doesn't want to look like he's giving in to Putin uh the American people certainly would not uh support that kind of solution so I think it's going to take time and the the question is how do you end the war in a way that you're not rewarding Russia and that
you're not encouraging Russia to try the same kind of illegal unjustified invasion of another country one two years down the line so I think that's a critical issue uh the second on Middle East uh look uh the Trump Administration was a huge supporter of Israel um they will continue to support Israel um in its fight and I think that uh you know we have to look at the fact that um Netanyahu also um understands that that Trump uh does not like to see conflicts prolong um would not want to see the US get embroiled in Conflict uh so I think
again you know I think Trump will be able to help the situation and perhaps get to a position where there could be some kind of ceasefire or winding down of this uh conflict as well and then lastly let me just say a few words about China um you know Trump had really uh set the policy uh toward China during his first term uh he had uh been very clear about restricting certain Technologies to China uh he had uh put in export controls um he had taken a very firm position on China's aggressive behavior uh toward other countries India
being one of them of course to the uh 2020 gawan crisis um so I would expect that he would continue uh with this strategy uh working with allies and partners in order to meet the China Challenge and more effectively compete uh this is this is the name of the game now the US is in competition with China all right le le Lisa um Tom Rose and and ponit thank you very much for joining us us I want to shift Focus to the second part of our program and that is on the US India bilateral relationship and somebody who's seen that from very close
quarters is Mr s akarin former secretary to the Ministry of external Affairs former spokesperson of the ministry of external Affairs good morning to you from Washington DC Mr Akin I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress it is a new dawn in America it's a republican wave Trump is back in the White House what does it mean for the India us bilateral of course I want to start off with the whole trade question because Trump at least on the campaign uh has said that he's going to impose a 20% straight up tariff on All Imports
into the United States and that includes imports from India uh what may that mean so um zaka first of all um changes in US Administration are not new to the Indian establishment uh We've navigated these changes successfully previously now on your um specific uh issue of uh trade and tariff uh yes um these are challenges uh that uh globally everybody has to navigate and it's not that we haven't navigated trade related challenges with the US before for example in the last Trump Administration he withdrew the GSP um benefits for
India um yes he's transactional but then big countries know how to work with each other and um a give and take relationship is what Trump understands and countries like India and the Indian diplomatic establishment know how to uh engage in this um dialogue and I don't see this as a major threat of course uh he needs intends to promote his interest on um uh basis which is not only antithetical to India alone it is a intention that he wants to impose these sort of restrictions of 10 to 20% across the globe with some exceptions uh where
their interest don't coincide like in China in terms of India us and India interests coincide so there will be such um pin Pricks but I don't see a Divergence in the big interest between the two countries I don't want to ask you about the China question because uh the feeling with the Biden Harris Administration uh at least in South block was that they distracted by what's going on in in West Asia the war there the Russia Ukraine war there uh they were not as much focused on China but whereas with Trump and he said
this publicly so many times both when he was president and also on the campaign he's going to be squarely focused on what is the the the long-term challenge for the United States which is the rise of China uh do you think that would be good for India because India also has its own set of challenges with China so um yes um to the credit of uh the first Trump Administration they uh pivoted in a uh manner which no other administration had done in addressing their long-term challenges from China now uh India and us um interests
converge in this area um for a variety of reasons uh which are pretty obvious uh and therefore a convergence of interest helps um in both the countries in working together and yes as you said uh if other issues or the other two Wars the two major Wars which are going on elsewhere in the world are addressed uh the focus will turn to issues uh uh uh relating to the common challenges faced by both India and China and other count sorry both India and the Us and other countries from uh a variety of um uh strategic um impulses from China having
said that there is one other thing I think we also need to be inent of and that is um the Republican Administration is less focused on um values than on interests and that's a good sign because interests are easy to um focus on values will always differ from perspectives which are different in both societies yeah I think that's a that's a great Point um especially on this whole business about kistan and all these separatist elements I think uh uh Trump won't be as uptight if I can use that word as the Democrat Administration has
been but thank you very much Mr Akin for joining us I'm in fact going to go across to one of your counterparts on the other side Ambassador Atul kab is the president of the US India Business Council ambass kop I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress outside the Capital Hill uh it's a new morning in a America it's a it's a red wave Trump is back in the white house as president the Republicans are in control of the Senate and will likely take the house as well uh what's your read what's your read of what went on uh last night
because nobody was predicting this kind of a landslide I mean the polls were saying that is going to be extremely close it boils down to the Battlegrounds I think he's winning all seven Battlegrounds what what what exactly happened what what's your analysis well president Trump uh clearly ran on a c uh campaign plank of keeping America strong uh and uh trying to uh address all of the wars and instability and ensuring the well-being of the American people so he clearly uh enjoyed a ground swell of support uh I think the
great Victory last night was not only President Trump's but of American democracy look at the American people queuing up and patiently voting in a free and fair election showing once again our passionate Devotion to democracy it's good for us it's good for all free people around the world so let's see what comes of it I do want to ask you about you know what Trump's agenda at least on the foreign policy front would be obviously he would be I mean his top two priorities would be the two Wars Israel Hamas and of course Russia Ukraine on
Russia Ukraine he has said publicly on the campaign that he's going to end it in day one he's going to end it in 24 hours he's basically going to tell zinsky take it or leave it and he's going to shut off the eight his vice president uh now Vice president-elect uh J Vance has said in as many words in the senate floor and otherwise that uh Ukraine should not be given American Aid uh you reckon that is is likely how Trump is going to play the Russia Ukraine war zaka I want to talk to you about us India relations I think that Trump who
wrote The Art of the deal uh clearly is invested in making deals and I think that us and India actually have an enormous opportunity to be ambitious so whatever happens in Russia Ukraine let's focus on Delhi and Washington let's focus on taking the US India strategic economic and technological convergence to the next level that's the critical work of the two great democracies of this planet what the reason I asked you that is because it has a knock-on effect I I know one sore point between the Biden Harris Administration and New Delhi was
on India's import of Russian oil but be that as it may let's talk about what what Trump's economic agenda is and what his plan is uh he's basically saying anywhere between 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the United States and that will surely affect Indian Imports into the United States as well won't it well look this is where the president has president Trump has been very clear about the need for uh fair and balanced trade uh there H there have been structural imbalances in America's trade with many countries around the world uh
since the pandemic we've also had Rising concerns about supply chain vulnerability this is where again if Del and Washington play it well and if Deli understands the sensitivities of the American people as telegraphed through this election then I think there's an opportunity for both India and America to be entrepreneurial recall that in the last days of the Trump Administration in Trump one there was a very uh intense effort to try to forge a meaningful trade deal and I think that if both sides can get back to that there is a
chance for both Delhi and Washington to be T tend to be ambitious to achieve some big things for both Indian and American people and to reinforce the connectivity between High trust Nations such as India and the United States and strengthen our supply chains but it does require that our partners understand the sensitivities and feelings of the American people uh um I I want to get one final word from Ambassador kesab mukes AI is also joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum but ambassador kesab just on that question
when Trump was President between 2016 and 2020 you know this I mean you had a ringside view of this how he railed about you know the Holly Davidson tariffs that India was imposing how he was upset about India buying S400 uh missile defense systems from Russia uh how how do you see that that sort of playing out I mean India's defense partnership for example even today despite the war and all of that uh almost 50% of India's defense Imports are from Russia well I also remember zaka that the president visited India uh to
ahmadabad for that big rally he also hosted Prime Minister Modi in Houston Texas and so much else besides and I vividly remember from my time in government that when India uh was facing the uh rather terrible challenge at galwan uh and made some requests of the United States uh for help uh in critical areas uh president Trump made a decision to rush that Aid to India because of the strength of the relationship between the Indian and American people so I think what will need to happen is clear conversations between Delhi and
Washington uh in Trump 2 about the respective needs of one another and then serious work to forge an ambitious agenda for continued strategic economic and technological convergence because it's important for both of us and it's frankly important for the stability and happiness of the world all right ukab thank you very much is always a pleasure speaking with you let's see uh if us India sees a new dawn under Trump 2 .
0 mukes AI from the US India strategic partnership forum is also now joining us thank you very much Mr AI good morning to you I'm coming to you live from Washington DC outside the US Congress uh the Capital Hill uh just tell us I mean your assessment your hot take of what exactly happened last night it's a massive Landslide for Donald Trump and the Republican Party well you had a very effective campaign by the Republican party they were organized their messaging was right which resonate with the people and you have a for the first time in last 20
years popular award also being won by the president the Senate and the White House and and we're waiting for the results on the house also so I think it seems to be a clean sweep for the president on his agenda and and that's going to be disrupted on a global basis uh I do want to talk to you about one of the big issues that Trump made on the campaign was about illegal immigration uh and when we were speaking to people you know around around the DC area over the last 2 or 3 days that we've been here you know including
people in the indian-american community the indian-american community wants more legal immigration into the United States and they were saying that the people who uh who illegal immigration affects most are actually the legal immigrants do you see Trump once he's done with this whole business of you know mass deportations or whatever it is that he wants to do to address the illegal immigration problem do you see him addressing the legal immigration issue as well because that syst system is also broken no absolutely I think you have to
understand uh the crying need for the US business Community is uh skills and manpow women power and it's important to basically hire those people and there's a massive shortage especially in the tech world and what we are seeing is is the legal immigration is being impacted by the illegal we have around 16 million illegal immigrants and and by the way the third l uh illegal immigrants are now coming from India itself that has a percolative impact on the legal side so I think it's important we address that because if we
don't address that then the companies are not globally efficient effective and they need talent to be be able to build business uh both domestically and globally so he's also saying look I mean I know some of it could be campaign rhetoric he might turn it down when he is actually governing that this whole 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the us if not then you have to come and set up a plant here in the in the United States do you see this working because ultimately if there's going to be tariffs then um you know companies are
going to pass that on to the consumers it's not like they're doing this for for charity well uh the economists have estimated that if you put 20% tariff uh it has almost a uh uh 2% inflationary impact and also have almost a dramatic impact on the GDP growth also because at the end of the day it's the consumer which pays for that last time when the Tariff was set up we didn't see a massive movement of companies moving manufacturing back to the US you have to understand it's not all manufacturing will move back some will definitely move
back but overall there's a massive skill shortage what we will see is basically is that uh China will get impacted the most because the promises to put 60% tariff on Chinese Goods coming into the country so a lot of us companies who are concerned about their supply chain concern about their revenue and sales will look at other Alternatives beside China to set up manufacturing yes high-end manufacturing may move back uh to the US but the the lowend manufacturing will stay in Asia and other part of the world and India can
play a very pivotal role and it's not just about being part of the global supply chain also offered us companies Market opportunity you look at Apple which moved part of his manufacturing to India and his domestic Revenue has gone up over A5 billion itself so I think it's a combination of global supply chain drisking uh manufacturing and at the same time gaining market share and very quickly Mr AI before we let you go uh obviously the the big foreign policy challenge the most immediate priority for him would be to
end the two Wars and Trump to his credit has been anti-war ever since he first ran as as a candidate in 2016 um how do you see him play both the Russia Ukraine war and the Israel Hamas War when you look at on the Ukraine and Russia front uh they made it very clear the Republican party that they will not anymore supply all the weapons and money to Ukraine itself and there has been some kind of a discussion with Putin so I think you will see some kind of a settlement happening uh on that war in the case of Middle East I believe they
will give a more free hand to Nathan to go basically uh deal with the proxies which is the Hezbollah huis and Hamas itself but more important is is the stress point with China I think it's important to understand that both Republican and Democrats see China as a critical adversary both from a military side economic side and Technology side and that's where India becomes critical in in the strategy of leveraging uh India to deal with encounter China itself and you have to understand that one area which we will see more focus is
going to take place is is quad the four countries which is Japan Australia India and the US and I believe the quad will percolate into the economic agreement also because you have four countries who total GDP is around $35 trillion they can work together as a potential Common Market which will be an easier thing to do and that's going to basically affect India dealing with the Tariff of 20% also so we believe that while the focus is going to be initially Middle East and Europe sorry Middle East and Ukraine but
quad will play up role also I think that's a great point because when Trump was President between 16 and 20 uh he was the one who gave so much impetus to move quad into a head of government uh sort of setting eventually of course the first head of summit a head of state quad meeting happened when Biden became president uh but he did really really push the quad so I think that's a great Point made thank you very much mkh Ari for joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum uh it is a big big moment in America's
political Journey no doubt about it Donald Trump has managed to do something that no American president has done in over a 100 years gr Cleveland back in 1918 uh after he won a term then lost re-election came back after 4 years and and then won a second term so for Trump this is a bit of redemption if you will this is a shot uh at creating history again making America great again as he keeps saying uh and I think the most important thing is Trump realizes that there is a broken system whether it's on immigration whether it's on economy and
he has made a promise to the American voters that he will fix it so the next four years we will uh we will wait and see uh whether or not he's able to live up to those uh High promises we'll take a quick break when we come back on the other side uh I've done a a quick walk through into what exactly happened why the Democrats got uh this election so wrong they were going into this election with a one straight narrow path strategy which was to win the blue wall States and then everything else will take care of it and that has simply come off the
seams I'll explain that right on the other side of this quick break [Music] addition it's the morning after election day and election night in America we're coming to you live from the US Capital Hill where the US Congress will now be shaded completely in red a republican is going to be the next president of the White House the Republicans have taken control of the US Senate and they are within Striking Distance of taking control of the House of Representatives which means once that happens the Republicans will have control of all
three branches of government here in the United States and that is a huge thing uh the last time that happened was in 2016 when uh Trump won all three branches of government he pipped Hillary Clinton but like I said a moment ago today's Victory is bigger than what Trump achieved back in 2016 it is bigger uh even in terms of Electoral College votes bigger than what Biden achieved four years ago so how did this come about we will get into the integrities we will dive into the numbers like like I said Trump is on course to win all
seven of the Swing States Trump is winning the popular vote and by a margin he's right now last I check is at over 71 million votes across uh the United States and kamla Harris is at over 66 million votes no one said that Trump would win the popular vote by this kind of a margin this is way above the plus or minus three margin of error in the polls this is closer to 5% of the entire electorate and then therefore this has been a sweeping a sweeping victory for the Republicans and for Donald Trump we will try and break it down for you as to
how he won and also take it Forward because he's got a lot of work to do both domestically and internationally what are his priorities going to be we lay out the Trump agenda and the Trump vision for the first uh 100 days or the first uh you know first year at least because he has a lot of work to do both domestically and abroad uh this is how it played out in what is Stern out to be a tremendous night for Trump the Republicans and of course a night of heartbreak for kamla Harris and the [Applause] Democrats America great again
oh and Powerful mate [Applause] frankly this was I believe the greatest political movement of all time there's never been anything like this in this country and maybe Beyond you have some great senators and some great new senators and it also looks like we'll be keeping control of the House of Representatives we are going to start by all putting America first we have to put our country first for at least a period of time we have to fix it because together we can truly make America great again for all American We Make History
for a reason tonight you know Trump has been running on this campaign of making America great again for the last 8 years and 70 million plus Americans have bought into that they bought into it in 2016 they bought into it in 2020 and they've boughten into it uh in 2024 but I think frankly what tilted the scales for Trump and this phenomenal the stunning comeback that we're seeing is the campaign line that he ran for the last few weeks saying Trump will fix it I think that resonated with a lot of Voters people were upset they were angry
about the economy about cost of living cost of groceries uh cost of housing had gone up and then of course a lot of Americans were upset about America's role in these two ongoing Wars and the fact that the Biden Harris Administration was doing nothing to stop these two Wars Trump simply said I know the country is broken I know the world is broken I'm the man to fix it Trump will fix it and I think a lot of Americans have bought into that message irrespective of whether they are white or African-American Or Hispanic or
Asian-American they have voted as Americans first and Trump has and his message of trump will fix it has resonated with Americans irrespective of racial divides or even gender divides which was of course stocked up by the Democrats in a big way uh going into election day let me now bring in guest first part we will try and analyze how this stunning this stunning Republican wave how it was Mastered by Trump in his team over the last few weeks and months uh and then of course we will lay out the agenda forward because he I I
believe is going to fundamentally restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in ways that we haven't seen since God knows uh FDR back in the 1930s uh Tom Rose is a senior adviser to Mr Donald Trump he was also an adviser to the former vice president Mike Pence pun Aralia former Republican candidate for left governor in Virginia a borya is Deputy National Finance chair of the democratic party Lisa Kurt is Deputy assistant uh uh Secretary of State and of course now she is uh the head of uh the U uh the indo-pacific
security Center at the center for New American Security Tom Rose uh good morning to you from Washington DC let me start with you I remember interviewing you a couple of weeks ago and you said you were very confident that Trump will win his message was resonating with uh uh with ordinary voters what is your first reading of this wave this Red Wave Trump has won all seven or at least is on the verge of winning all seven of the Battleground States he's won the popular vote by over 5 percentage points that is not something that the pollster saw or
the pundits saw or even the news media saw I think it's it's perhaps the most remarkable uh political story certainly in American history this man survived two impeachments 91 indictments 34 phony felony convictions uh two assassination attempts a lost presidential election or an FBI raid of his of his private home uh media collusion to destroy or delegitimize him the opposition in UNIS calling him the worst conceivable names comparing him to history's most bloodthirsty brutal dictators and he comes out and he wins
what could be 315 electoral votes out of the 538 total I think what it says is that the American people have had enough with the elite institutions and Elite voices that continually assume they know what's best for us and I think think the American people rejected that this was a rainbow Victory president Trump won half of the Latino Or Hispanic vote unheard of George W bush yep in 2004 won 40% and everyone thought that was the high Watermark he won almost 30% of black men this was not a white rage vote this was
a multiethnic multi-racial landslide victory for a man who promises to fix America's great problems you know I think that's a fascinating uh Insight tomrose let me get Lisa Curtis in on this uh you were here Lisa a couple of days ago we were speaking about it uh you know I don't think anyone can say that this is the kind of white lash uh uh verdict which which uh many said 2016 was uh you know the the the Forgotten America the left behinds was sort of raging Against The Establishment this is I mean like like
Tom Rose said he he has won more Hispanic Americans than any other Republican who ran for president uh he's won more of the male African-American vote than any one who ran for uh for president at least in the modern era from the Republican side uh you know and I was looking at this this place it's called Dearborn in Michigan it has the highest proportion of of Arab Americans in in America and any City you know who won there Donald Trump what does that say to the Democrats politic politics of appealing and pandering to to just race
and nothing else well I think it shows that uh president-elect Trump was able to connect with the voters um voters you know from all kinds of backgrounds minority voters as you point out he held steady with the women vote there was a lot of speculation you remember just two days ago zaka when we were speaking there was you know a lot of people talking about you know women were breaking for Kamala well I don't think these things happened in the end I think uh he was able to convince uh voters on uh his policies on the economy on
immigration those were two major issues uh for voters and also just that he would uh be able to fight for their interests uh protect their interests and so people basically just felt that uh he was going to be the leader who was going to look out for their own interests look out for the American people he showed himself to be a fighter um he he ran a very hard and and persistent campaign uh as you mentioned there were two assassination attempts against him I think it was a remarkable moment when you know he had part of his ear shut off
what did he do he stood up he pumped his fist um so not not everybody is is going to respond to an assassination attempt that way way and I think this showed the kind of leader he is and that he really would fight for the American people and I I think that is what has won him um so handily uh he he has won this handily people didn't expect that I myself I say uh you know I thought it would be a closer race you know I thought the polls were more neck and neck um but I think he has shown that uh he's a very strong
mandate uh it's a very clear vote uh for him and his leadership and I think in the end of the day uh people basically thought he would be the leader to fight harder for their own interest and to protect America and everything it stands for you know I I think for me what was fascinating was um he was able to appeal to Americans You know despite or being beyond their identities whether it is by race or by gender uh you know you look at look at a problem like illegal immigration you could accuse Trump of you know simplifying it and making it uh
sound inhumane and so on and so forth But ultimately there is a problem and that problem needs to be fixed who does illegal immigration affect the most it doesn't affect white Americans it affects legal IM immigrants into this country it affects the Hispanics and the African-Americans and the asian-americans disproportionately compared to how it affects white Americans and he was able to convey this message to those communities that look this is not about immigration this is about violent crime and these are people
who are coming to your neighborhoods infesting your neighborhoods making your life difficult and a lot of people have bought into that message you look at you know one of the counties which has the highest proportion of uh Puerto Rican Americans in in in Pennsylvania uh and despite all the the rhetoric and the comedian who made that joke about Puerto Ricans you know who won that County Donald Trump won that County so pun alalia what does that say I think it's got to a stage where politicians and this is not just here in America it's
across the world it's in India uh it's in it's in um other democracies you cannot just be playing identity politics you have to at the end of the day if you are the incumbent run on your record and show why your record is better than your opponents and if you're the anti-incumbent then say what you're going to do better than the incumbent to make the lives of Ordinary People uh better and not just say oh you're African-American therefore you have to vote Democrat how can you dare think of voting for Trump you're Hispanic look at
all the stuff that Trump and his supporters are saying about uh Hispanics how can you dare vote for Trump that politics of just spering to a narrow racial identity is not working is not working anymore pun alalia well Victory and Vindication is the headline for president Trump and for the Republicans who have stood by him since 2016 or time he started but more importantly the message is that the Democratic party or the liberal leftist media and socialist soci social Elites want to have a view of America according to them and this is a clear
message for them look at we as Republicans we went through a process where we elected president Trump to be the next leader of the Republican party and what happened on the Democratic side is she was anointed as soon as they found out that Biden was incapable to lead the country or be the head of the uh leader of the democratic party and then what she said she had no message she had no message and we as Americans have been suffering for the last four years after they inherited a very successful economy a safe a safer world
than before and and that rhetoric of imposing on American people that he's a fascist he's a racist didn't sit well with people and now guess what they have lost handily and complete sweep so what it says is that identity politics is not here to say and all Arab Americans all Hispanic Americans asian-americans what is one thing very common in them they're all American they're all impacted and affected by failed policies of the democratic party the wokeism has to stop the rule of law has to Prevail weaponizing of the doj has to stop this
country has to come together and we have to lead not just only for the American people but for the entire world look at the bad actors Trump in Europe we have Putin and we have North Korea and Iran we need to find a way to resolve these issues and president Trump was so good in this as he started the Arab Arab the Abram Accord I think we'll find peace there we'll find a way to get the NATO to be stronger but the NATO Partners have to contribute more and at the same time China that's the biggest uh I would say the Gill in the room that we need to
take on and find a way to neutralize that and do business with them and I believe President Trump is the Right leader at the right I'll get to the the forward agenda in just one second I yeah I want to get to a boria for the Democrats I think one of the points that pun Alia made I think the fact that a the Democrats took too long to figure out that Joe Biden was not in a position uh to run again uh his mental equities was simply not there uh uh you know kamla Harris just had 107 days uh to make the case to the American people
that she was the alternative and clearly uh not many americ have bought into that uh in fact you if you look at the popular vote if you look at the raw data uh she has about 66 million votes Which is less way less than what Biden got Biden got 81 million in the 2020 election so they're about 14 15 million Americans who've either not turned up or who voted for somebody else but they certainly have not voted for KLA Harris in fact her popular vote is even less than what Hillary Clinton got Hillary Clinton got 73 million I think uh in
2016 so it's about 56 million short of what Hillary Clinton got uh 8 years ago so either the candidate was unpopular and that point that Punit made I think is absolutely validly taken please address that uh Mr boria you cannot impose a candidate on the American people he or she has to come through the the primary process and unfortunately in your party kamla Harris did not come through that primary process the last time she went through that primary process she was eliminated even before I think the first primary ever
happened well um first of all congratulations President elect Trump and uh as one of the speakers said I do admire all his strength going through so much and is still string strong to fight for American people and U as the pun pointed out or you pointed out kamla had 117 days and to bring the case to who she is and what she stains for to the American people and I think she did a good fairly good job in uh getting her message across uh the American people have made it Clear Choice that they want Trump to handle the economy the
immigration issues the the the wars and everything and to make the country more safe so uh that's a that's a choice American people have made and we go with that now the transition from President Biden to kamla I do agree that a lot of people within the party and a lot of people uh you know outside they did not like the way the transition was done I was knocking doors in the Wayne County in p pania and we were talking about the undecided voters to say Hey you know you should be voting for kamla and one of
the folk ask me that you guys are talking about saving democracy and uh but you did not elect your candidate democratically so how are you going to protect Democratic I said yeah that's a question so so that's a question with many voters great yeah many undecided voters had and I think that played out in favor of trump I think that's a fantastic point and I think that resonated uh W with the with the with the undecideds uh that's a great point that Mr Bor has made let me go back to to Tom Rose and to try and
take this forward what is Trump's agenda going to be first domestically and then I'll ask Lisa about the international agenda but domestically Trump has basically and he said this over and over again in his campaign he is going to fundamentally restructure the American bureaucracy which means RFK Jr becomes Health secretary uh Elon musk becomes the secretary for the Department of controlling government expenditure what have you uh and now he has the Mandate he's got a sweeping mandate the biggest that a republican has had I think since
George W bush if not Ronald Reagan uh and more importantly he has control of the Senate so he can get anyone appointed as secretary or Ambassador uh in the next two years still till they have control of the Senate so how may you think Trump is going to restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in particular well I think he's been uh I think he's zaka been very clear about what he wants to do we need a closed border we need a fixed immigration system we need Mass deportation of illegal criminals in the United States
of whom there are hundreds of thousands he now has the ability to begin to do that but let's not forget zaka that the administrative state the bureaucracy if you will the civil service is still in place the legal system is still in place the uh the Democrats the left are not going to roll over uh and die they'll file lawsuit after lawsuit or injunction after injunction they'll get their judges to try and stop and that's the way our democracy works I'm not uh uh necessarily complaining about that we have a system of checks and balances
designed to ensure that not one single branch of government is uh supreme or has more power than the others but on the judicial side we now have three members of the Supreme Court who are over 70 years old two of those are conservative one is liberal uh we might see um uh some retirements on the court now that uh we're assured that they can be replaced by conservative uh uh uh judges so as significant and as important this election is uh our American system of government is designed to slow things down it's built
with sand in the gears if you will to ensure that there can't be uh a dramatic radical change without popular mandates now Trump has a significant popular mandate he's been very clear about what he wants to do his main objectives he'll be able to accomplish but some of the broader thematic themes uh I I think we're still going to have to wait and see all right let me also go across to CNN reporter Ivan Rodriguez is joining us from West Palm Beach Florida uh he's of course been keeping an eye out on the Trump campaign uh Trump came out and
spoke last night to his supporters massive massive win um I know that CNN has still not projected Michigan Arizona or Nevada yet but Trump is leading in all three states and if he were to win all three this would be a bigger mandate for him than what he won in 2016 uh he is effectively going to win all seven Battleground States how did this come about uh Ivan what's the what's the read in in Trump HQ on how this Landslide was brought about uh well zanka I I even say that in the Trump Camp they'd argue even without
winning Arizona Nevada it's a landslide Victory uh because it really has been a surprising to see even earlier last night how much of a lead he was gaining in those key Battleground States I will tell you though that what we're hearing from a lot of Voters in States across the country let's even just focus on those Battlegrounds which had a lot to say in terms of who was going back to that white house uh the economy was the number one issue and we're looking at things like inflation grocery prices gas prices housing market a lot of things uh
in that sector have been worrisome to the American uh population to the greater population uh and although inflation isn't necessarily Rising anymore it also has has gone any lower per se so prices have remained pretty much high at that point so every time someone goes back to the grocery store they're still looking at those high prices Trump and his campaign did a good job of being able to tie Harris to that Biden presidency and remind people in a way that she is no different than Biden if you vote for her you're going to get
the same thing that you got for uh from President Biden but it really is so overwhelming and we look at we look across the electoral map right that blue wall what Democrats say is so important to them Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania Trump flipping Pennsylvania Trump also flipping Wisconsin uh we were we were talking yesterday even if he was just able to get one of those it was going to be crucial to his White House Victory but now looking at the map he could walk away as you mentioned with Michigan as well would mean a complete overhaul of
that blue wall which Biden was able to flip it back in 2020 but States like Georgia they were Republican again uh North Carolina which Democrats were eager to possibly flip uh that remained uh under that GOP win Arizona Nevada I mean at this point like you mentioned it doesn't really matter what happens in those States but if they do uh go Trump's way is just even more of a sense of just how much of an overwhelming Victory it was not only in the Electoral College but also winning the popular vote yeah uh I think last I check like I
said Trump had 71 million kamla Harris had about 66 million Biden had 81 million so that's about 13 14 million less uh who have voted for the Democrats you know why they didn't do that I guess pundits will sort of scratch their heads and do their analysis about that but I'm coming to you Ivan from the US Congress from the US Capital Hill uh and this is going to be a different uh government now because you have a republican in the White House you have Republicans in control of the Senate and they are within Striking Distance of uh taking or
winning the House of Representatives what does that mean for Trump in his second term both in terms of appointments and also his agenda I mean look yesterday we saw Trump very excited for the fact that the GOP was able to secure uh control of the Senate uh you can only imagine uh he's very closely watching those uh key races in the house uh because if he is able uh to secure the house I mean it really opens up the door for uh his new government now uh to do a lot of the things that he had uh said along the campaign trail that he' wanted to do a
lot of these things do require Congressional approval uh although a lot of things have been said along the campaign Trail right uh for example tax on tips to help uh other sort of policies a lot of them uh zaka require that help from Congress all right Ivan we'll leave it with that thank you very much Ian Rodriguez at West Palm Beach Florida tracking the Trump campaign and of course there was a big party there after yesterday's speech Trump gave a big speech and he said that the country is broken and we need to fix it we need to
put America first that's been his messaging that's been his messaging for the last8 years but let me go to Lisa Curtis and take this forward now obviously you know there's a big domestic agenda but there's also a big foreign policy agenda for Donald Trump uh there are two Wars uh he has been an anti-war candidate all along right from the first time he ran in 2016 uh he might respond differently to the two Wars on Russia Ukraine he has said publicly he will end it within 24 hours he will basically tell zilinsky take it
or leave it what does that mean and two also on the Israel Hamas question now that you know I I just gave you the example of Dearborn Michigan where Arab Americans have voted overwhelmingly for Trump how does he play the Israel Hamas War does he give uh Netanyahu more of a more of a blank check or does he tell him okay go ahead finish the job but also end this war quickly well these are all great questions um I can give just a few thoughts uh first on the Ukraine Russia War uh certainly he has said he wants to focus on
negotiations focus on ending the war but the question is how do we do that and how do you do that in a way that you're not empowering Russia to try the same thing a few years later uh of course Trump doesn't want to look like he's giving in to Putin uh the American people certainly would not uh support that kind of solution so I think it's going to take time and the the question is how do you end the war in a way that you're not rewarding Russia and that you're not encouraging Russia to try the same kind of illegal unjustified
invasion of another country one two years down the line so I think that's a critical issue uh the second on Middle East uh look uh the Trump Administration was a huge supporter of Israel is um they will continue to support Israel um in its fight and I think that uh you know we have to look at the fact that um Netanyahu also um understands that that Trump uh does not like to see conflicts prolong um would not want to see the US get embroiled in the conflict uh so I think again you know I think Trump will be able to help the situation
and perhaps get to a position where there could be some kind of ceasefire or winding down of of this uh conflict as well and then lastly let me just say a few words about China um you know Trump had really uh set the policy uh toward China during his first term uh he had uh been very clear about restricting certain Technologies to China uh he had uh put in export controls um he had Tak a very firm position on China's aggressive behavior uh toward other countries India being one of them of course to the uh 2020 gawan crisis um so
I would expect that he would continue uh with this strategy uh working with allies and partners in order to meet the China Challenge and more effectively compete uh this is this is the name of the game now the US is in competition with China all right Le Lisa um Tom Rose and and ponit thank you very much for joining us us I want to shift Focus to the second part of our program and that is on the US India bilateral relationship and somebody who's seen that from very close quarters is Mr s akarin former secretary to the ministry
of external Affairs former spokesperson of the ministry of external Affairs good morning to you from Washington DC Mr Akin I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress it is a new dawn in America it's a republican wave Trump is back in the White House what does it mean for the India us bilateral of course I want to start off with the whole trade question becauseum at least on the campaign has said that he's going to impose a 20% straight up tariff on All Imports into the United States and that includes imports from India uh what
may that mean so um zaka first of all um changes in US Administration are not new to the Indian establishment uh We've navigated uh these changes successfully previously now on your um specific uh issue of uh trade and tariff uh yes um these are challenges uh that uh globally everybody has to navigate and it's not that we haven't navigated trade related challenges with the US before for example in the last Trump Administration he withdrew the GSP um benefits for India um yes he's transactional but then big countries know how to work with each
other and um a give and take relationship is what Trump understands and countries like India and the the Indian diplomatic establishment know how to uh engage in this um dialogue and I don't see this as a major threat of course uh he needs intends to promote his interest on a uh basis which is not only antithetical to India alone it is a intention that he wants to impose these sort of restrictions of 10 to 20% across the globe with some exceptions uh where their interests don't coincide like in China in terms of India us and India
interests coincide so there will be such um pin Pricks but I don't see a Divergence in the big interest between the two countries I don't want to ask you about the China question because uh the feeling with the Biden Harris Administration uh at least in South block was that they distracted by what's going on in in West Asia the war there the Russia Ukraine war there uh they were not as much focused on China whereas with Trump and he said this public l so many times both when he was president and also on the campaign he's
going to be squarely focused on what is the the the long-term challenge for the United States which is the rise of China uh do you think that would be good for India because India also has its own set of challenges with China so um yes um to the credit of uh the first Trump Administration they uh pivoted in a uh manner which no other administration had done in addressing their long-term challenges from China now uh India and us um interests converge in this area um for a variety of reasons uh which are pretty obvious
uh and therefore a convergence of Interest helps um in both the countries in working together and yes as you said uh if other issues or the other two Wars the two major Wars which are going on elsewhere in the world are addressed uh the focus will turn two issues uh uh relating to the common challenges faced by both India and China and other count sorry both India and the Us and other countries from uh a variety of um uh strategic um impulses from China said that uh there is one other thing I think we also need to be of and that is um the
Republican Administration is less focused on um values than on interest and that's a good sign because interests are easy to focus on values will always differ from perspectives which are different in both societies yeah I think that's a that's a great Point um especially on this whole business about kistan and all these separatist elements I think uh uh Trump won't be as uptight if I can use that word as the Democrat Administration has been but thank you very much Mr akarin for joining us I'm in fact going to go
across to one of your counterparts on the other side Ambassador Atul kab is the president of the US India Business Council Ambassador Kap I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress outside the Capital Hill uh it's a new morning in America it's a it's a red wave Trump is back in the white house as president the Republicans are in control of the Senate and will likely take the house as well uh what's your read what's your read of what went on uh last night because nobody was predicting this kind of a landslide I mean the polls were
saying that was going to be extremely close it boils down to the Battlegrounds I think he's winning all seven Battlegrounds what what what exactly happened what what's your analysis well president Trump uh clearly ran on a c uh campaign plank of keeping America strong uh and uh trying to uh address all of the wars and instability and ensuring the well-being of the American people so he clearly uh enjoyed a ground swell of support uh I think the great Victory last night was not only president trumps but of American
democracy look at the American people queuing up and patiently voting in a free and fair election showing once again our passionate Devotion to democracy it's good for us it's good for all free people around the world so let's see what comes of it I do want to ask you about you know what Trump's agenda at least on the foreign policy front would be obviously he would be I mean his top two priorities would be the two Wars Israel Hamas and of course Russia Ukraine on Russia Ukraine he has said publicly on the campaign that he's going to end it
in day one he's going to end it in 24 hours he's basically going to tell zilinski take it or leave it and he's going to shut off the eight his vice president uh now Vice president-elect uh J Vance has said in as many words in the senate floor and otherwise that uh Ukraine should not be given American Aid uh you reckon that is is likely how Trump is going to play the Russia Ukraine war zaka I want to talk to you about us India relations I think that Trump who wrote The Art of the deal uh clearly is invested in making deals and I think
that us and India actually have an enormous opportunity to be ambitious so whatever happens in Russia Ukraine let's focus on Delhi and Washington let's focus on taking the US India strategic economic and technological convergence to the next level that's the critical work of the two great democracies of this planet what the reason I asked you that is because it has a knock-on effect I I know one sore point between the Biden Harris Administration and New Delhi was on India's import of Russian oil but be that as it may let's talk about what
what Trump's economic agenda is and what his plan is uh he's basically saying anywhere between 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the United States and that will surely affect Indian Imports into the United States as well won't it well look this is where the president has president Trump has been very clear about the need for uh fair and balanced trade uh there H there have been structural imbalances in America's trade with many countries around the world uh since the pandemic we've also had Rising concerns about supply chain
vulnerability this is where again if Delhi and Washington play it well and if Delhi H understands the sensitivities of the American people as telegraphed through this election then I think there's an opportunity for both India and America to be entrepreneurial recall that in the last days of the Trump Administration in Trump one there was a very uh intense effort to try to forge a meaningful trade deal and I think that if both sides can get back to that there is a chance for both Delhi and Washington to be ambitious to achieve
some big things for both Indian and American people and to reinforce the connectivity between High trust Nations such as India and the United States and strengthen our supply chains but it does require that our partners understand the sensitivities and feelings of the American people uh um I want to get one final word from Ambassador kup mukes AI is also joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum but Ambassador kop just on that question when Trump was President between 2016 and 2020 you know this I mean you had a
ringside view of this how he railed about you know the harleydavidson tariffs that India was imposing how he was upset about India buying S400 uh missile defense systems from Russia uh H how do you see that that sort of playing out I mean India's defense partnership for example even today despite the war and all of that almost 50% of India's defense Imports are from Russia well I also remember zaka that the president visited India uh to ahmadabad for that big rally he also hosted Prime Minister Modi in Houston
Texas and so much else besides and I vividly remember from my time in government that when India uh was facing the uh rather terrible challenge at galwan uh and made some requests of the United States uh for help uh in critical areas uh president Trump made a decision to rush that Aid to India because of the strength of the relationship between the Indian and American people so I think what will need to happen is clear conversations between Delhi and Washington uh in Trump to about the respective needs of one another and then
serious work to forge an ambitious agenda for continued strategic economic and technological convergence because it's important for both of us and it's frankly important for the stability and happiness of the world all right Ambassador kab thank you very much as always a pleasure speaking with you let's see uh if us India sees a new dawn under Trump 2.
0 mukes AI from the US India strategic partnership forum is also now joining us thank you very much Mr AI good morning to you I'm coming to you live from Washington DC outside the US Congress the Capital Hill uh just tell us I mean your assessment your hot take of what exactly happened last night it's a massive landslide for Donald Trump and the Republican Party well you had a very affected campaign by the Republican party they were organized their messaging was right which resonated with the people and you have a for the first time in last 20
years popular award also being won by the president the Senate and the White House and and waiting for the results on the house also so I think it seems to be a clean sweep for the president on his agenda and and that's going to be disrupted on a global basis uh I do want to talk to you about one of the big issues that Trump made on the campaign was about illegal immigration uh and when we were speaking to people you know around around the DC area over the last 2 or 3 days that we've been here you know including
people in the indian-american community the indian-american community wants more legal immigration into the United States and they were saying that the people who uh who illegal immigration affects most are actually the legal immigrants do you see Trump once he's done with this whole business of you know mass deportations or whatever it is that he wants to do to address the illegal immigration problem do you see him addressing the legal immigration issue as well because that system is also broken no absolutely I think you have to
understand uh the crying need for the US business Community is uh skills and man power women power and it's important to basically hire those people and there's a massive shortage especially in the tech world and what we are seeing is is the legal immigration is being impacted by the illegal we have around 16 million illegal immigrants and by the way the third largest uh illegal immigrants are now coming from India itself that has a percolating impact on the legal side so I think it's important we address that
because if we don't address that then the companies are not globally efficient effective and they need talent to be be able to build business uh both domestically and globally so he's also saying look I mean I know some of it could be campaign rhetoric he might turn it down when he is actually governing that this whole 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the us if not then you have to come and set up a plant here in the in the United States do you see this working because ultimately if there's going to be tariffs then um you know companies are
going to pass that on to the consumers it's not like they're doing this for for charity well uh the economists have estimated that if you put 20% tariff uh it has almost a uh uh 2% inflationary impact and also have almost a dramatic impact on the GDP growth also because at the end of the day is a consumer which pays for that last time when the Tariff was set up we didn't see a massive movement of companies moving manufacturing back to the US you have to understand U uh it's not all manufacturing will move back some will definitely move back but
overall there's a massive skill shortage what we will see is basically is that uh China will get impacted the most because the uh promise is to put 60% tariff on Chinese Goods coming into the country so a lot of us companies who are concerned about their supply chain concerned about their revenue and sales will look at other Alternatives beside China to set of manufacturing yes high-end manufacturing may move move back uh to the US but the the lowend manufacturing will stay in Asia and other part of the world and India can play a very pivotal
role and it's not just about uh being part of the global supply chain India also offered us companies Market opportunity you look at Apple which moved part of his manufacturing to India and his domestic Revenue has gone up over5 Billion Dollar itself so I think it's a combination of global supply chain drisking uh manufacturing and at the same time gaining market share and very quickly Mr Ari before we let you go uh obviously the the big foreign policy challenge the most immediate priority for him would be to end the two
Wars and Trump to his credit has been anti-war ever since he first ran as as a candidate in 2016 um how do you see him play both the Russia Ukraine war and the Israel Hamas War when you look at on the Ukraine and Russia front uh they made it very clear the Republican Party that they will not anymore supply all the weapons and money to Ukraine itself and there has been some kind of a discussion with Putin so I think you will see some kind of a settlement happening on that war in the case of Middle East I believe they will
give a more free hand to Nath to go basically uh deal with the proxies which is the hbas huis and Hamas itself but more important is is the stress point with China I think is important to understand that both Republican and Democrats see China as a critical adversary both for a military side economic side and Technology side and that's where India becomes critical in the strategy of leveraging uh India to deal with encounter China itself and you have to understand that one area which we will see more focus is going to take
place is is quart the four countries which is Japan Australia India and the US and I believe the quad will percolate into the economic agreement also because there are four countries whose total GDP is around 35 trillion dollars they can work together as a potential Common Market which will be a easier thing to do and that's going to basically affect India dealing with the Tariff of 20% also so we believe that while the focus is going to be initially Middle East and Europe sorry Middle East and Ukraine but quar will play a pivotal role also
I think that's a great point because when Trump was President between 16 and 20 uh he was the one who gave so much impetus to move quad into a head of government uh sort of setting eventually of course the first head of summit head of state quad meeting happened when Biden became president uh but he did really really push the quad so I think that's a great Point made thank you very much mukes Ari for joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum uh it is a big big moment in America's political Journey no doubt about it
Donald Trump has managed to do something that no American president has done in over a 100 years gr Cleveland back in 1918 after he won a term then lost re-election came back after 4 years and then won a second term so for Trump this is a bit of redemption if you will this is a shot uh at creating history again making America great again as he keeps saying uh and I think the most important thing is Trump realizes that there is a brok system whether it's on immigration whether it's on economy and he has made
a promise to the American voters that he will fix it so the next 4 years we will uh we will wait and see uh whether or not he's able to live up to those uh High promises we'll take a quick break when we come back on the other side uh I've done a a quick walk through into what exactly happened why the Democrats got uh this election so wrong they were going into this election with a one straight narrow path strategy which was to win the blue move all states and then everything else will take care of it and that has simply come off the seams I'll
explain that right on the other side of this quick [Music] break addition it's the morning after election day and election night in America we're coming to you live from the US Capital Hill where the US Congress will now be shaded completely in red a republican is going to be the next president of the White House the Republicans have taken control of the US Senate and they are within Striking Distance of taking control of the House of Representatives which means once that happens the Republicans will have control of all three branches of
government here in the United States and that is a huge thing uh the last time that happened was in 2016 when uh Trump won all three branches of government he pipped Hillary Clinton but like I said a moment ago today's Victory is bigger than what Trump achieved back in 16 it is bigger uh even in terms of Electoral College votes bigger than what Biden achieved four years ago so how did this come about we will get into the integrities we will dive into the numbers like I said Trump is on course to win all seven of the Swing States
Trump is winning the popular vote and by a margin he is right now last I check is at over 71 million votes across uh the United States and kamla Harris is at over 66 million votes no one said that Trump would win the popular vote by this kind of a margin this is way above the plus or minus three margin of error in the polls this is closer to 5% uh of the entire electorate and therefore this has been a sweeping a sweeping victory for the Republicans and for Donald Trump we will try and break it down for you as to
how he won and also take it Forward because he's got a lot of work to do both domestically and internationally what are his priorities going to be we lay out the Trump and agenda and the Trump vision for the first uh 100 days or the first uh you know first year at least because he has a lot of work to do both domestically and abroad uh this is how it played out in what has turned out to be a tremendous night for Trump the Republicans and of course a night of heartbreak for kamla Harris and the Democrats [Applause]
America great again oh and Powerful [Applause] mandate frankly this was I believe the greatest political movement of all time there's never been anything like this in this country and maybe Beyond you have some great senators and some great new senators and it also looks like we'll be keeping control of the House of Representatives we are going to start by all putting America first we have to put our country first for at least a period of time we have to fix it because together we can truly make America great again for all Americans we made history
for a reason tonight you know Trump has been running on this campaign of making America great again for the last 8 years and 70 million plus Americans have bought into that they bought into it in 2016 they bought into it in 20120 and they've boughten into it uh in 2024 but I think frankly what tilted the scales for Trump and this phenomenal the stunning comeback that we're seeing is the campaign line that he ran for the last few weeks saying Trump will fix it I think that resonated with a lot of Voters people were upset they were angry
about the economy about cost of living cost of groceries cost of housing had gone up and then of course a lot of Americans were upset about America's role in these two ongoing Wars and the fact that uh the Biden Harris Administration was doing nothing to stop these two Wars Trump simply said I know the country is broken I know the world is broken I'm the man to fix it Trump will fix it and I think a lot of Americans have bought into that message irrespective of whether they are white or African-American Or Hispanic or
Asian-American they have voted as Americans first and Trump Trump has and his message of trump will fix it has resonated with Americans irrespective of racial divides or even gender divides which was of course stocked up by the Democrats in a big way uh going into election day let me now bring in our guests first part we will try and analyze how this stunning this stunning Republican wave how it was Mastered by Trump and his team over the last few weeks and months uh and then of course we will lay out the agenda forward
because he I I believe is going to fundamentally restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in ways that we haven't seen since God knows FDR back in the 1930s uh Tom Rose is a senior adviser to Mr Donald Trump he was also an adviser to the former vice president Mike Pence pun alalia former Republican candidate for left governor in Virginia AJ boria is Deputy National Finance chair of the democratic party Lisa Kurt is Deputy assistant uh uh Secretary of State and of course now she is uh the head of uh
the uh uh the indo-pacific security Center at the center for New American Security Tom Rose uh good morning to you from Washington DC let me start with you I remember interviewing you a couple of weeks ago and you said you were very confident that Trump will win his message was resonating with uh uh with ordinary voters what is your first reading of this wave this Red Wave Trump has won all seven or at least is on the verge of winning all seven of the Battleground States he's won the popular vote by over 5 percentage points that is
not something that the pollster saw or the pundits saw or even the news media saw I think it's it's perhaps the most remarkable uh political story certainly in American history this man survived two impeachments 91 indictments 34 phony felony convictions uh two assassination attempts a lost presidential election an FBI raid of his of his private home uh media collusion to destroy or delegitimize him the opposition in unison calling him the worst conceivable names comparing him to history's most bloodthirsty brutal dictators and he
comes out and he wins what could be 315 electoral votes out of the 538 total I think what it says is that the American people have had enough with the elite institutions and Elite voices that continually assume they know what's best for us and I think the American people rejected that this was a rainbow Victory president Trump won half of the Latino Or Hispanic vote unheard of George W bush yep in 2004 won 40% and everyone thought that was the high Watermark he won almost 30% of black men this was not a white rage vote this was a multiethnic
multi-racial landslide victory for a man who promises to fix America's great problems you know I think that's a fascinating uh Insight tomrose let me get Lisa Curtis in on this uh you were here Lisa a couple of days ago we were speaking about it uh you know I don't think anyone can say that this is the kind of whitelash uh uh verdict which which uh many said 2016 was uh you know the the the Forgotten America the left behinds was sort of raging Against The Establishment this is I mean like like Tom Rose said he he has won more
Hispanic Americans than any other Republican who ran for president uh he's won more of the male African-American vote than any one who ran for uh for president at least in the modern era from the Republican side uh you know and I was looking at at this this place it's called Dearborn in Michigan it has the highest proportion of of Arab Americans in in America in any City you know who won there Donald Trump what does that say to the Democrats politics of appealing and pandering to to just race and nothing else well I think it shows that uh
president-elect Trump was able to connect with the voters um voters you know from all kinds of backgrounds minority voters as you point out he held steady with the women vote there was a lot of speculation you remember just two days ago zaka when we were speaking there was you know a lot of people talking about you know women were breaking for Kamala well I don't think these things happened in the end I think uh he was able to convince uh voters on uh his policies on the economy on immigration those were two major issues
uh for voters and also just that he would uh be able to fight for their interests uh protect their interests and so people basically just felt that uh he was going to be the leader who was going to look out for their own interests look out for the American people he showed himself to be a fighter um he he ran a very hard and and persistent campaign uh as you mentioned there were two assassination attempts against him I think it was a remarkable moment when you know he had part of his ear shut off what did he do he stood up he pumped his
fist um so not not everybody is is going to respond to an assassination attempt that way and I think this showed the kind of leader he is and that he really would fight for the American people and I I think that is what has won him um so handily uh he he has won this handily people didn't expect that that I myself I say uh you know I thought it would be a closer race you know I thought the polles were more neck and neck um but I think he has shown that uh he's got a very strong mandate uh it's a very clear vote uh for him and his leadership and I
think in the end of the day uh people basically thought he would be the leader to fight harder for their own interest and to protect America and everything it stands for you know I I think for me what was fascinating was um he was able to appeal to Americans You know despite or beyond their identities whether it is by race or by gender uh you know you look at look at a problem like illegal immigration you could accuse Trump of you know simplifying it and making it uh sound inhumane and so on and so forth But ultimately there is a problem and
that problem needs to be fixed who does illegal immigration affect the most it doesn't affect white Americans it affects legal IM immigrants into this country it affects the Hispanics and the African-Americans and the asian-americans disproportionately compared to how it affects white Americans and he was able to convey this message to those communities that look this is not about immigration this is about violent crime and these are people who are coming to your neighborhoods infesting your neighborhoods making your
life difficult and a lot of people have bought into that message you look at you know one of the counties which has the highest proportion of uh Puerto Rican Americans in in in Pennsylvania uh and despite all the the rhetoric and the comedian who made that joke about Puerto Ricans you know who won that County Donald Trump won that County so pun alalia what does that say I think it's got to a stage where politicians and this is not just here in America it's across the world it's in India uh it's in it's in um other democracies you
cannot just be playing identity politics you have to at the end of the today if you are the incumbent run on your record and show why your record is better than your opponents and if you're the anti-incumbent then say what you're going to do better than the incumbent to make the lives of ordinary people uh better and not just say oh you're African-American therefore you have to vote Democrat how can you dare think of voting for Trump you're Hispanic look at all the stuff that Trump and his supporters are saying about uh Hispanics
how can you dare vote for Trump that politics of just spering to a narrow racial identity is not working is not working anymore pun alalia well Victory and Vindication is the headline for president Trump and for the Republicans who have stood by him since 2016 or time he started but more importantly the message is that the Democratic party or the liberal leftist media and socialist social Elites want to have a view of America according to them and this is a clear message for them look at we as Republicans we went
through a process where we elected president Trump to be the next leader of the Republican party and what happened on the Democratic side is she was anointed as soon as they found out that Biden was incapable to lead the country or be the head of the uh leader of the democratic party and then what she said she had no message she had no message and we as Americans have been suffering for the last four years after they inherited a very successful economy a safe a safe world than before and and that rhetoric of imposing on American
people that he's a fascist he's a racist didn't sit well with people and now guess what they have lost handily and it's complete sweep so what it says is that identity politics is not here to say and all Arab Americans all Hispanic Americans asian-americans what is one thing very common in them they're all American they're all impacted and affected by failed policies of the democratic party the ISM has to stop the rule of law has to Prevail weaponizing of the doj has to stop this country has to come together and we have to lead not
just only for the American people but for the entire world look at the Bad actors Trump in Europe we have Putin and we have North Korea and Iran we need to find a way to resolve these issues and president Trump was so good in this as he started the Arab Arab the Abram Accord I think we'll find peace there we'll find a way to get the NATO to be stronger but the NATO Partners have to contribute more and at the same time China that's the biggest uh I would say the g in the room that we need to take on and find a way to neutralize that and
do business with them and I believe President Trump is the Right leader at the right I'll get to the the forward agenda in just one second I yeah I want to get to a boria for the Democrats I think one of the points that pun aluia made I think the fact that a the Democrats took too long to figure out that Joe Biden was not in a position uh to run again uh his mental equities was simply not there uh uh you know kamla Harris just had 107 days uh to make the case to the American people that she was the alternative and clearly uh not many
Americans have bought into that uh in fact you if you look at the popular vote if you look at the raw data uh she has about 66 million votes Which is less way less than what Biden got Biden got 81 million in the 2020 election so there are about 14 15 million Americans who've either not turned up or who voted for somebody else but they certainly have not voted for KLA Harris in fact her popular vote is even less than what Hillary Clinton got Hillary Clinton got 73 million I think uh in 2016 so it's about 56 million short of what Hillary
Clinton got uh 8 years ago so either the candidate was unpopular and that point that Punit made I think is absolutely validly taken please address that uh Mr boria you cannot impose a candidate on the American people he or she has to come through the the primary process and unfortunately in your party kamla Harris did not come through that primary process the last time she went through that primary process she was eliminated even before I think the first primary ever happened well um first of all congratulations to President elect Trump
and U as one of the speakers said I do admire all his strength going through so much and is still string strong to fight for uh American people and as the pun pointed out or you pointed out kamla had 117 is and to bring the case to who she is and what she stands for to the American people and I think she did a good fairly good job in uh getting her message across uh the American people have made it very clear choice that they want Trump to handle the economy the immigration issues the the the wars and everything and to make the country more
safe so uh that's a that's a choice American people have made and we go with that now the transition from President Biden to kamla um I do agree that a lot of people within the party and a lot of people uh you know outside they did not like the way the transition was done I was knocking doors in the Wayne County in Pennsylvania and uh we were talking about the undecided voters to say Hey you know you should be voting for kamla and one of the folk asked me that you guys are talking about saving democracy and uh but you did not elect your
candidate democratically so how are you going to protect Democratic I said yeah that's question so so that's a question with many voters yeah many undecided voters had and I think that played out in favor of trump I think that's a fantastic point and I think that resonated uh W with the with the with the undecideds uh that's a great point that Mr VOR has made let me go back to to Tom Rosen to try and take this forward what is Trump's agenda going to be first domestically and then I'll ask Lisa about the international
agenda but domestically Trump has basically and he said this over and over again in his campaign he is going to fundamentally restructure the American bureaucracy which means RFK Jr becomes Health secretary uh Elon Musk becomes the secretary for the Department of controlling government expenditure what have you uh and now he has the Mandate he's got a sweeping mandate the biggest that a republican has had I think since George W bush if not Ronald Reagan uh and more importantly he has control of the Senate so he can get anyone
appointed as secretary or Ambassador uh in the next two years still till they have control of the Senate so how may you think Trump is going to restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in particular well I think he's been uh I think he's zaka been very clear about what he wants to do we need a closed border we need a fixed immigration system we need Mass deportation of illegal criminals in the United States of whom there are hundreds of thousands he now has the ability to begin to do that but let's not forget zaka that the
administrative State the bureaucracy if you will the civil service is still in place the legal system is still in place the uh the Democrats the left are not going to roll over uh and die they'll file lawsuit after lawsuit or injunction after injunction they'll get their judges to try and stop and that's the way our democracy works I'm not uh uh necessarily complaining about that we have a system of checks and balances designed to ensure that not one single branch of government is uh supreme or has more power than the others but on
the judicial side we now have three members of the Supreme Court who are over 70 years old two of those are conservative one is liberal uh we might see um uh some retirements on the court now that uh we're assured that they can be replaced by conservative uh uh uh judges so as significant and as important as this election is uh our American system of government is designed to slow things down it's built with sand in the gears if you will to ensure that there can't be uh a dramatic radical change with without popular
mandates now Trump has a significant popular mandate he's been very clear about what he wants to do his main objectives he'll be able to accomplish but some of the broader thematic themes uh I think we're still going to have to wait and see all right let me also go across to CNN reporter Ivan Rodriguez is joining us from West Palm Beach Florida uh he's of course been keeping an eye out on the Trump campaign uh Trump came out and spoke last night to his supporters massive massive win um I know that CNN has still not projected Michigan Arizona
or Nevada yet but Trump is leading in all three states and if you were to win all three this would be a bigger mandate for him than what he won in 2016 uh he's effectively going to win all seven Battleground States how did this come about uh Ivan what's the what's the read in in Trump HQ on how this Landslide was brought about uh will zanka I I even say that in the Trump Camp they'd argue even without winning Arizona Nevada it's a landslide Victory uh because it really has been surprising to see even earlier last
night how much of a lead he was gaining in those key Battleground States I will tell you though that what we're hearing from a lot of Voters in States across the country let's even just focus on those Battlegrounds which had a lot to say in terms of who was going back to that white house uh the economy was the number one issue and we're looking at things like inflation grocery prices gas prices housing market a lot of things uh in that sector have been worrisome to the American uh population to the greater population uh and although
inflation isn't necessarily Rising anymore it also hasn't gone any lower per se so prices have remained pretty much high at that point so every time someone goes back to the grocery store they're still looking at those high prices Trump and his campaign did a good job of being able to tie Harris to that Biden presidency and remind people in a way that she is no different than Biden if you vote for her you're going to get the same thing that you got for uh from President Biden but it really is so overwhelming and we
look at we look across the editorial map right that blue wall what Democrats say is so important to them Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania Trump flipping Pennsylvania Trump also flipping Wisconsin uh we were we were talking yesterday even if he was just able to get one of those it was going to be crucial to his White House Victory but now looking at the map he could walk away as you mentioned with Michigan as well would mean a complete overhaul of that blue wall which Biden was able to flip uh it back in 2020 but States like
Georgia they were gone Republican again North Carolina which Democrats were eager to possibly flip uh that remained uh under that GOP win Arizona Nevada I mean at this point like you mentioned it doesn't really matter what happens in those States but if they do uh go Trump's way is just even more of a sense of just how much of an overwhelming Victory it was not only in the Electoral College but also winning the popular vote yeah uh I think last I checked like I said Trump had 71 million kamla Harris had about 66 million Biden had 81
million so that's about 13 14 million less uh who have voted for the Democrats you know why they didn't do that I guess pundits will sort of scratch their heads and do their analysis about that but I'm coming to you Ian from the US Congress from the US Capital Hill uh and this is going to be a different uh government now because you have a republican in the White House you have Republicans in control of the Senate and they are within Striking Distance of uh taking or winning the House of Representatives what does that mean for Trump in his
second term uh both in terms of appointments and also his agenda I mean look yesterday we saw Trump very excited for the fact that the GOP was able to secure uh control of the Senate uh you can only imagine uh he's very closely watching those key races in the house uh because if he is able uh to secure the house I mean it really opens up the door for uh his new government now uh to do a lot of the things that he had uh said along the campaign trail that he had wanted uh to do a lot of these things do require Congressional
approval although a lot of things have been said along the campaign Trail right uh for example tax on tips to help uh other sort of policies a lot of them uh zaka require that help from Congress all right Ivan we'll leave it with that thank you very much Ivan Rodriguez at West Palm Beach Florida uh tracking the Trump campaign and of course there was a big party there uh after yesterday's speech Trump gave a big speech and he said that the country is broken and we need to fix it we need to put America first that's been his
messaging that's been his messaging for the last 8 years but let me go to Lisa Curtis and take this forward now obviously you know there's a big domestic agenda but there's also a big foreign policy agenda for Donald Trump uh there are two Wars uh he has been an anti-war candidate all along right from the first time he ran in 2016 uh he might respond differently to the two Wars on Russia Ukraine he has said publicly he will end it within 24 hours he will basically tell zilinski take it or leave it what does that mean and two
also on the Israel Hamas question now that you know I I just gave you the example of Dearborn Michigan where Arab Americans have voted overwhelmingly for Trump how does he play the Israel Hamas War does he give uh Netanyahu more of a more of a blank check or does he tell him okay go ahead finish the job but also end this war quickly well these are all great questions um I can give just a few thoughts uh first on the Ukraine Russia War uh certainly he has said he wants to focus on negotiations focus on ending
the war but the question is how do we do do that and how do you do that in a way that you're not empowering Russia to try the same thing a few years later uh of course Trump doesn't want to look like he's giving in to Putin uh the American people certainly would not uh support that kind of solution so I think it's going to take time and the the question is how do you end the war in a way that you're not rewarding Russia and that you're not encouraging Russia to try the same kind of illegal unjustified invasion of another country one two
years down the line so I think that's a critical issue uh the second on Middle East uh look uh the Trump Administration was a huge supporter of Israel um they will continue to support Israel um in its fight and I think that uh you know we have to look at the fact that um Netanyahu also um understands that that Trump uh does not like to see conflicts prolong um would not want to see the US get embroiled in the conflict uh so I think again you know I think Trump will be able to help the situation and perhaps get to a position where there
could be some kind of ceasefire or winding down of of this uh conflict as well and then lastly let me just say a few words about China um you know Trump had really uh set the policy uh toward China during his first term uh he had uh been very clear about restricting certain Technologies to China uh he had uh put in export controls um he had taken a very firm position on China's aggressive behavior uh toward other countries India being one of them of course to the uh 2020 gawan crisis um so I would expect that he would continue uh
with this strategy uh work with allies andn in order to meet the China Challenge and more effectively compete uh this is this is the name of the game now the US is in competion with China all right le le Lisa um Tom Rose and and ponit thank you very much for joining us us I want to shift Focus to the second part of our program and that is on the US India bilateral relationship and somebody who's seen that from very close quarters is Mr s akarin former secretary to the ministry of external Affairs former spokesperson of the ministry of
external Affairs good morning morning to you from Washington DC Mr Akin I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress it is a new dawn in America it's a republican wave Trump is back in the White House what does it mean for the India us bilateral of course I want to start off with the whole trade question because Trump at least on the campaign uh has said that he's going to impose a 20% straight up tariff on All Imports into the United States and that includes imports from India uh what may that mean so um zaka first of all um U
changes in US Administration are not new to the Indian establishment uh We've navigated uh these changes uh successfully previously now on your um specific uh issue of uh trade and tariff uh yes um these are challenges uh that uh uh globally everybody has to navigate and it's not that we haven't navigated trade related challenges with the US before for example in the last Trump Administration he withdrew the GSP uh um benefits for India um yes he's transactional but then big countries know how to work with each other and um
a give and take relationship is what Trump understands and countries like India and the Indian diplomatic establishment know how to uh engage in this um dialogue and I don't see this as a major threat of course uh he needs intends to promote his interest on a uh basis which is not only antithetical to India don't it is a intention that he wants to impose these sort of restrictions of 10 to 20% across the globe with some exceptions uh where their interests don't coincide like in China in terms of India us and India
interest coincide so there will be such um pin Pricks but I don't see a Divergence in the big interest between the two countries I don't want to ask you about the China question because uh the feeling with the Biden Harris Administration uh at least in South block was that they distracted by what's going on in in West Asia the war there the Russia Ukraine war there uh they were not as much focused on China whereas with Trump and he said this publicly so many times both when he was president and also on the campaign he's
going to be squarely focused on what is the the the long-term challenge for the United States which is the rise of China uh do you think that would be good for India because India also has its own set of challenges with China so um yes um to the credit of uh the first Trump Administration they uh pivoted in a uh manner which no other administration had done in addressing their long-term challenges from China now uh India and us um interests converge in this area um for a variety of reasons uh which are pretty obvious
uh and therefore a convergence of Interest helps um in both the countries in working together and yes as you said uh if other issues or the other two Wars the two major Wars which are going on elsewhere in the world are addressed uh the focus will turn to issues uh relating to the common challenges faced by both India and China and other count sorry both India and the Us and other countries from uh a variety of um uh strategic um uh uh impulses from China said that there is one other thing I think we also need to be of and that is
um the Republican Administration is less focused on um values than on interest and that's a good sign because interests are easy to um focus on values will always differ from perspectives which are uh different in both societies yeah I think that's a great Point um especially on this whole business about kistan and all these separatist elements I think uh uh Trump won't be as uptight if I can use that word as the Democrat Administration has been but thank you very much Mr akarin for joining us I'm in fact going to go
across to one of your counterparts on the other side Ambassador Atul Kap is the president of the US India Business Council Ambassador kab I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress outside the Capital Hill uh it's a new morning in America it's a it's a red wave Trump is back in the white houses president the Republicans are in control of the Senate and will likely take the house as well uh what's your read what's your read of what went on uh last night because nobody was predicting this kind of a landslide I mean the polls were
saying that was going to be extremely close it boils down to the Battlegrounds I think he's winning all seven Battlegrounds what what what exactly happened what what's your analysis well president Trump uh clearly ran on a c uh campaign plank of keeping America strong uh and uh trying to uh address all of the wars and instability and ensuring the well-being of the American people so he clearly uh enjoyed a ground swell of support uh I think the great Victory last night was not only President Trump's but of American
democracy look at the American people queuing up and patiently voting in a free and fair election showing once again our passionate Devotion to democracy it's good for us it's good for all free people around the world so let's see what comes of it I do want to ask you about you know what Trump's agenda at least on the foreign policy front would be obviously he would be I mean his top two priorities would be the two Wars Israel Hamas and of course Russia Ukraine on Russia Ukraine he has said publicly on the campaign that he's going to end it
in day one he's going to end it in 24 hours he's basically going to tell zilinsky take it or leave it and he's going to shut off the eight his vice president uh now Vice president-elect jry Vance has said in as many words in the senate floor and otherwise that Ukraine should not be given American Aid uh you reckon that is is likely how Trump is going to play the Russia Ukraine war zaka I want to talk to you about us India relations I think that Trump who wrote The Art of the deal uh clearly is invested in making deals and I think
that us and India actually have an enormous opportunity to be ambitious so whatever happens in Russia Ukraine let's focus on Delhi and Washington let's focus on taking the US India strategic economic and technological convergence to the next level that's the critical work of the two great democracies of this planet what the reason I asked you that is because it has a knock-on effect I I know one sore point between the Biden Harris Administration and New Delhi was on India's import of Russian oil but be that as it may let's talk about what
what Trump's economic agenda is and what his plan is uh he's basically saying anywhere between 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the United stes States and that will surely affect Indian Imports into the United States as well won't it well look this is where the president has president Trump has been very clear about the need for uh fair and balanced trade uh there H there have been structural imbalances in America's trade with many countries around the world uh since the pandemic we've also had Rising concerns about supply chain
vulnerability this is where again if Delhi and Washington play it well and if Delhi stands the sensitivities of the American people as telegraphed through this election then I think there's an opportunity for both India and America to be entrepreneurial recall that in the last days of the Trump Administration in Trump 1 there was a very uh intense effort to try to forge a meaningful trade deal and I think that if both sides can get back to that there is a chance for both Delhi and Washington to be ambitious to achieve
some big things for for both Indian and American people and to reinforce the connectivity between High trust Nations such as India and the United States and strengthen our supply chains but it does require that our partners understand the sensitivities and feelings of the American people uh um I want to get one final word from Ambassador kab mukes AI is also joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum but Ambassador kop just on that question when Trump was President between 2016 and 2020 you know this I mean you had a
ringside view of this how he railed about you know the Holly Davidson tariffs that India was imposing how he was upset about India buying S400 uh missile defense systems from Russia uh H how do you see that that sort of playing out I mean India's defense partnership for example even today despite the war and all of that uh almost 50% of India's defense Imports are from Russia well I also remember zaka that the president visited India uh to ahmadabad for that big rally he also hosted Prime Minister Modi in Houston
Texas and so much else besides and I vividly remember from my time in government that when India uh was facing the uh rather terrible challenge at galwan uh and made some requests of the United States uh for help uh in critical areas uh president Trump made a decision to rush that Aid to India because of the strength of the relationship between the Indian and American people so I think what will need to happen is clear conversations between Delhi and Washington uh in Trump 2 about the respective needs of one another and then
serious work to forge an ambitious agenda for continued strategic economic and technological convergence because it's important for both of us and it's frankly important for the stability and happiness of the world all right Ambassador kab thank you very much is always a pleasure speaking with you let's see uh if us India sees a new dawn under Trump 2.
0 mukes AI from the US India strategic partnership forum is also now joining us thank you very much Mr AI good morning to you I'm coming to you live from Washington DC outside the US Congress the Capital Hill uh just tell us I mean your assessment your hot take of what exactly happened last night it's a massive Landslide for Donald Trump and the Republican Party well you had a very effective campaign by the Republican party they were organized their messaging was right which resonated with the people and you have a for the first time in last 20
years popular award also being won by the president the Senate and the White House and and we're waiting for the results on the house also so I think it seems to be a clean sweep for the president on his agenda and and that's going to be disrupting our Global basis uh I do want to talk to you about one of the big issues that Trump made on the campaign was about illegal immigration uh and when we were speaking to people you know around around the DC area over the last 2 or 3 days days that we've been here you know including
people in the indian-american community the indian-american community wants more legal immigration into the United States and they were saying that the people who uh who illegal immigration affects most are actually the legal immigrants do you see Trump once he's done with this whole business of you know mass deportations or whatever it is that he wants to do to address the illegal immigration problem do you see him addressing the legal immigration issue as well because that system is also broken no absolutely I think you have to
understand uh the crying need for the US business Community is uh skills and man power women power and it's important to basically hire those people and there's a massive shortage especially in the tech world and what we are seeing is is the legal immigration is being impacted by the illegal we have around 16 million illegal immigrants and by the way the third largest uh illegal immigrants are now coming from India itself that has a percolative impact on the legal side so I think it's important we address that
because if we don't address that then the companies are not globally efficient effective and they need talent to be be able to build business uh both domestically and globally so he's also saying look I mean I know some of it could be campaign rhetoric he might tone it down when he is actually governing that this whole 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the us if if not then you have to come and set up a plant here in the in the United States do you see this working because ultimately if there's going to be
tariffs then um you know companies are going to pass that on to the consumers it's not like they're doing this for for charity well uh The Economist have estimated that if you put 20% tariff uh it has almost a uh uh 2% inflationary impact and also have almost a dramatic impact on the GDP growth also because at the end of the day is a consumer which pays for that last time when the Tariff was set up we didn't see a massive movement of companies moving manufacturing back to the US you have to understand it's not all manufacturing
will move back some will definitely move back but overall there's a massive skill shortage what we will see is basically is that uh China will get impacted the most because the uh promise is to put 60% tariff on Chinese Goods coming into the country so a lot of us companies who are concerned about their supply chain concerned about their revenue and sales will look at other Alternatives beside China to set of manufacturing yes high-end manufacturing may move back uh to the US but the the loow in manufacturing will stay in Asia and
other part of the world and India can play a very pivotal role and it's not just about being part of the global supply chain India also offered us companies Market opportunity you look at Apple which moved part of his manufacturing to India and his domestic Revenue has gone up over5 Billion itself so I think it's a combination of global supply chain drisking uh manufacturing and at the same time gaining market share and very quickly Mr Ari before we let you go uh obviously the the big foreign policy challenge the most
immediate priority for him would be to end the two Wars and Trump to his credit has been anti-war ever since he first ran as as a candidate in 2016 um how do you see him play both the Russia Ukraine war and the Israel Hamas War when you look at on the Ukraine and Russia front uh they made it very clear the Republican party that they will not anymore supply all the weapons and money to Ukraine itself and there has been some kind of a discussion with Putin so I think you will see some kind of a settlement happening on that war in the
case of Middle East I believe they will give a more free hand to naanu to go basically uh deal with the proxies which is the Hezbollah hutis and Hamas itself but more important is is the stress point with China I think it's important to understand that both Republican and Democrats see China as a critical adversary both from a military side economic side and Technology side and that's where India becomes critical in the strategy of leveraging uh India to deal with encounter China itself and you have to understand that one area which
we will see more focus is going to take place is is quad the four countries which is Japan Australia India and the US and I believe the quad will percolate into the economic agreement also because you have four countries whose total GDP is around $35 trillion they can work together as a potential Common Market which will be an easier thing to do and that's going to basically affect India dealing with the Tariff of 20% also so we believe that while the focus is going to be initially Middle East and Europe sorry Middle East and
Ukraine but quad will play a pivotal role also I think that's a great point because when Trump was President between 16 and 20 uh he was the one who gave so much impetus to move quad into a head of government uh sort of setting eventually of course the first head of summit head of state quad meeting happened when Biden became president uh but he did really really push the quad so I think that's a great Point made thank you very much Mukesh AI for joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum uh it is a big big moment in America's
political Journey no doubt about it Donald Trump has managed to do something that no American president has done in over a 100 years gr Cleveland back in 1918 uh after he won a term then lost reelection came back after 4 years and then won a second term so for Trump this is a bit of redemption if you will this is a shot uh at creating history again making America great again as he keeps saying uh and I think the most important thing is Trump realizes that there is a broken system whether it's on immigration whether it's on economy and
he has made a promise to the American voters that he will fix it so the next 4 years we will uh we will wait and see uh whether or not he's able to live up to those uh High promises we'll take a quick break when we come back on the other side uh I've done a a quick walk through into what exactly happened why the Democrats got uh this election so wrong they were going into this election with a one straight narrow path strategy which was to win the blue wall States and then everything else will take care of it and that has simply come off the
seams I'll explain that right on the other side of this quick [Music] break addition at it's the morning after election day and election night in America we're coming to you live from the US Capital Hill where the US Congress will now be shaded completely in red a republican is going to be the next president of the White House the Republicans have taken control of the US Senate and they are within Striking Distance of taking control of the House of Representatives which means once that happens the Republicans will have
control of all three branches of government here in the United States and that is is a huge thing uh the last time that happened was in 2016 when uh Trump won all three branches of government he pipped Hillary Clinton but like I said a moment ago today's Victory is bigger than what Trump achieved back in 2016 it is bigger uh even in terms of Electoral College votes bigger than what Biden achieved four years ago so how did this come about we will get into the integrities we will dive into the numbers like I said Trump is on course
to win all seven of the swing States Trump is winning the popular vote and by a margin he is right now last I checked is at over 71 million votes across uh the United States and kamla Harris is at over 66 million votes no one said that Trump would win the popular vote by this kind of a margin this is way above the plus or minus three margin of error in the polls this is closer to 5% uh of the entire electorate and therefore this has been a sweeping a sweeping victory for the Republicans and for Donald Trump we
will try and break it down for you as to how he won and also take it Forward because he's got a lot of work to do both domestically and internationally what are his priorities going to be we lay out the Trump agenda and the Trump vision for the first uh 100 days or the first uh you know first year at least because he has a lot of work to do both domestically and abroad uh this is how it played out in what has turned out to be a tremendous night for Trump the Republican an and of course a night of heartbreak for kamla Harris and the
[Applause] Democrats America great again oh and Powerful M [Applause] day frankly this was I believe the greatest political movement of all time there's never been anything like this in this country and maybe Beyond you have some great senators and some great new senators and it also looks like we'll be keeping control of the House of Representatives we are going to start by all putting America first we have to put our country first for at least a period of time we have to fix it because together we can truly make America great
again for all Americans we made history for a reason tonight you know Trump has been running on this campaign of making America great again for the last 8 years and 70 million plus Americans have bought into that they bought into it in 2016 they bought into it in 2020 and they've boughten into it uh in 2024 but I think frankly what tilted the scales for Trump and this phenomenal this stunning comeback that we're seeing is the campaign line that he ran for the last few weeks saying Trump will fix it I think that resonated with a lot of
Voters people were upset they were angry about the economy about cost of living cost of groceries uh cost of housing had gone up and then of course a lot of Americans were upset about America's role in these two ongoing Wars and the fact that the Biden Harris Administration was not doing nothing to stop these two Wars Trump simply said I know the country is broken I know the world is broken I'm the man to fix it Trump will fix it and I think a lot of Americans have bought into that message irrespective of whether they are white
or African-American Or Hispanic or Asian-American they have voted as Americans first and Trump has and his message of trump will fix it has resonated with Americans irrespective of racial divides or even gender divides which was of course stocked up by the Democrats in a big way uh going into election day let me now bring in our guests first part we will try and analyze how this stunning this stunning Republican wave how it was Mastered by Trump and his team over the last few weeks and months uh and then of course
we will lay out the agenda forward because he I I believe is going to fundamentally restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in ways that we haven't seen since God knows uh FDR back in the 1930s uh Tom Rose is a senior adviser to Mr Donald Trump he was also an adviser to the former vice president Mike Pence pun alalia former Republican candidate for left governor in Virginia AJ boria is Deputy National Finance chair of the democratic party Lisa Kurt is Deputy assistant uh uh Secretary of State and
of course now she is uh the head of uh the U uh the Indo Pacific security Center at the center for New American Security Tom Rose uh good morning to you from Washington DC let me start with you I remember interviewing you a couple of weeks ago and you said you were very confident that Trump will win his message was resonating with uh uh with ordinary voters what is your first reading of this wave this Red Wave Trump is won all seven or at least is on the verge of winning all seven of the Battleground States he's won the popular
vote by over five percentage points that is not something that the pollsters saw or the pundits saw or even the news media saw I think it's it's perhaps the most remarkable uh political story certainly in American history this man survived two impeachments 91 indictments 34 phony felony convictions uh two assassination attempts a lost presidential election or an FBI raid of his of his private home uh media collusion to destroy or delegitimize him the opposition in unison calling him the worst conceivable names compared ing him
to history's most bloodthirsty brutal dictators and he comes out and he wins what could be 315 electoral votes out of the 538 total I think what it says is that the American people have had enough with the elite institutions and Elite voices that continually assume they know what's best for us and I think the American people rejected that this was a ring rainbow Victory president Trump won half of the Latino Or Hispanic vote unheard of George W bush yep in 2004 won 40% and everyone thought that was the high Watermark he won almost 30% of black men
this was not a white rage vote this was a multi-ethnic multi-racial landslide victory for a man who promises to fix America's great problems you know I think that's a fascinating uh Insight tomrose let me get Lisa Curtis in on this uh you were here Lisa a couple of days ago we were speaking about it uh you know I don't think anyone can say that this is the kind of white lash uh uh verdict which which uh many said 2016 was uh you know the the the Forgotten America the left behinds was sort of raging Against The
Establishment this is I mean like like Tom Rose said he he has won more Hispanic Americans than any other Republican who ran for president uh he's won more of the male African-American vote than any one who ran for uh for president at least in the modern era from the Republican side uh you know and I was looking at this this place it's called Dearborn in Michigan it has the highest proportion of of Arab Americans in in America in any City you know who won there Donald Trump what does that say to the democrat's politics of
appealing and pandering to to just race and nothing else well I think it shows that uh president-elect Trump was able to connect with the voters um voters you know from all kinds of backgrounds minority voters as you point out he held steady with the women vote there was a lot of speculation you remember just two days ago zaka when we were speaking there was you know a lot of people talking about you know women were breaking for Kamala well I don't think think these things happened in the end I think uh he was able to convince uh
voters on uh his policies on the economy on immigration those were two major issues uh for voters and also just that he would uh be able to fight for their interests uh protect their interests and so people basically just felt that uh he was going to be the leader who was going to look out for their own interests look out for the American people he showed himself to be a fighter um he he ran a very hard and and persistent campaign uh as you mentioned there were two assassination attempts against him I think it was a remarkable moment when
you know he had part of his ear shut off what did he do he stood up he pumped his fist um so not not everybody is is going to respond to an assassination attempt that way and I think this showed the kind of leader is and that he really would fight for the American people and I I think that is what has won him um so handily uh he he has won this handily people didn't expect that I myself I say uh you know I thought it would be a closer race you know I thought the Poes were more neck and neck um but I think he has shown that uh he's got a very
strong mandate uh it's a very clear vote uh for him and his leadership and I think in the end of the day uh people basically thought he would be the leader to fight harder for their own interest and to protect America and everything it stands for you know I I think for me what was fascinating was um he was able to appeal to Americans You know despite or beyond their identities whether it is by race or by gender uh you know you look at you look at a problem like illegal immigration you could accuse Trump of you know simplifying it and making it uh
sound inhumane and so on and so forth But ultimately there is a problem and that problem needs to be fixed who does illegal immigration affect the most it doesn't affect white Americans it affects legal IM immigrants into this country it affects the Hispanics and the African-Americans and the asian-americans disproportionately compared to how it affects white Americans and he was able to convey this message to those communities that look this is not about immigration this is about violent crime and these are people
who are coming to your neighborhoods infesting your neighborhoods making your life difficult and a lot of people have bought into that message you look at you know one of the counties which has the highest proportion of uh Puerto Rican Americans in in in Pennsylvania uh and despite all the the rhetoric and the comedian who made that joke about Puerto Ricans you know who won that County Donald Trump won that County so pun Al what does that say I think it's got to a stage where politicians and this is not just here in America it's across the
world it's in India uh it's in it's in um other democracies you cannot just be playing identity politics you have to at the end of the day if you are the incumbent run on your record and show why your record is better than your opponents and if you're the anti-incumbent then say what you're going to do better than the incumbent to make the lives of ordinary people uh better and not just say oh you're African American therefore you have to vote Democrat how can you dare think of voting for Trump you're Hispanic look at
all the stuff that Trump and his supporters are saying about uh Hispanics how can you dare vote for Trump that politics of just spering to a narrow racial identity is not working is not working anymore pun alalia well Victory and Vindication is the headline for president Trump and for the Republicans who have stood by him since 2016 or time he started but more importantly the message is that the Democratic party or the liberal leftist media and socialist social Elites want to have a view of America according to
them and this is a clear message for them look at we as Republicans we went through a process where we elected president Trump to be the next leader of the Republican party and what happened on the Democratic side is she was anointed as soon as they found out that Biden was incapable to lead the country or be the head of the uh leader of the democratic party and then what she said she had no message she had no message and we as Americans have been suffering for the last four years after they inherited a very successful economy a
safe a safer world than before and and that rhetoric of imposing on American people that he's a fascist he's a racist didn't sit well with people and now guess what they have lost handily and it's complete sweep so what it says is that Iden politics is not here to say and all Arab Americans all Hispanic Americans Asian Americans what is one thing very common in them they're all American they're all impacted and affected by failed policies of the democratic party the wokeism has to stop the rule of law has to Prevail
weaponizing of the doj has to stop this country has to come together and we have to lead not just only for the American people but for the entire world look at the Bad actors Trump in Europe we have Putin and we have North Korea and Iran we need to find a way to resolve these issues and president Trump was so good in this as he started the Arab Arab the Abram Accord I think we'll find peace there we'll find a way to get the NATO to be stronger but the NATO Partners have to contribute more and at the same time China that's the biggest uh I would
say the Gill in the room that we need to take on and find a way to neutralize that and do business with them and I believe President Trump is the Right leader at the right the the forward agenda in just one second I yeah I want to get to a boria for the Democrats I think one of the points that pun Alia made I think the fact that a the Democrats took too long to figure out that Joe Biden was not in a position uh to run again uh his mental equities was simply not there uh uh you know kamla Harris just had 107 days uh to make the
case to the American people that she was the alternative and clearly uh not many Americans have bought into that uh in fact you if you look at the popular vote if you look at the raw data uh she has about 66 million votes Which is less way less than what Biden got Biden got 81 million in the 2020 election so there're about 14 15 million Americans who've either not turned up or who voted for somebody else but they certainly have not voted for KLA Harris in fact her popular vote is even less than what Hillary Clinton got Hillary Clinton got
73 million I think uh in 2016 so it's about 56 million short of what Hillary Clinton got uh 8 years ago so either the candidate was unpopular and that point that pun made I think is absolutely validly taken please address that Mr boria you cannot impose a candidate on the American people he or she has to come through the the primary process and unfortunately in your party kamla Harris did not come through that primary process the last time she went through that primary process she was eliminated even before I think the first primary
ever happened well um first of all congratulations to President elect Trump and U as one of the speaker said I do admire all his strength going through so much and is still string strong to fight for American people and uh as the Punit pointed out or you pointed out kamla had 117 days and to bring the case to who she is and what she stands for to the American people and I think she did a good fairly good job in uh getting her message across uh the American people have made it very clear choice that they want Trump to handle the economy the
immigration issues the the the wars and everything and to make the country more safe so uh that's a that's a choice American people have made and we go with that now the transition from President Biden to kamla um I do agree that a lot of people within the party and a lot of people uh you know outside they did not like the way the transition was done I was knocking doors in the way County in Pennsylvania and uh we were talking about the undecided voters to say Hey you know you should be voting for kamla and one of the folk asked me that you
guys are talking about saving democracy and uh but you did not elect your candidate democratically so how are you going to protect democr I said yeah that's a question so so that's a question with many voters great Point yeah many undecided voters had and I think that played out in favor of trump I think that's a fantastic point and I think that resonated uh W with the with the with the undecideds uh that's a great point that Mr VOR has made let me go back to to Tom Rose and to try and take this forward what is Trump's agenda
going to be first domestically and then I'll ask Lisa about the international agenda but domestically Trump has basically and he said this over and over again in his campaign he is going to fundamentally restructure the American bureaucracy which means RFK Jr becomes Health secretary uh Elon Musk becomes the secretary for or the department of controlling government expenditure what have you uh and now he has the Mandate he's got a sweeping mandate the biggest a republican has had I think since George W bush if not Ronald Reagan uh
and more importantly he has control of the Senate so he can get anyone appointed as secretary or Ambassador uh in the next two years still till they have control of the Senate so how may you think Trump is going to restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in particular well I think he's been uh I think he's zaka been very clear about what he wants to do we need a closed border we need a fixed immigration system we need Mass deportation of illegal criminals in the United States of whom there are hundreds of thousands
he now has the ability to begin to do that but let's not forget zaka that the administrative State the bureaucracy if you will the civil service is still in place the legal system is still in place the uh the Democrats the left are not going to roll over uh and die they'll file lawsuit after lawsuit or injunction after injunction they'll get their judges to try and stop and that's the way our democracy works I'm not uh uh necessarily complaining about that we have a system of checks and balances designed to ensure that not one single
branch of government is uh supreme or has more power than the others but on the judicial side we now have three members of the Supreme Court who are over 70 years old two of those are conservative one is liberal uh we might see um uh some retirements on the court now that uh we're assured that they can be replaced by conservative uh uh uh judges so as significant and as important as this election is uh our American system of government is designed to slow things down it's built with sand in the gears if you will to
ensure that there can't be uh a dramatic radical change without popular mandates now Trump has a significant popular mandate he's been very clear about what he wants to do his main objectives he'll be able to accomplish but some of the broader thematic themes uh I think we're still going to have to wait and see all right let me also go across to CNN reporter Ivan Rodriguez is joining us from West Palm Beach Florida uh he's of course been keeping an eye out on the Trump campaign uh Trump came out and spoke last night to his supporters
massive massive win um I know that CNN has still not projected Michigan Arizona or Nevada yet but Trump is leading in all three states and if he were to win all three this would be a bigger mandate for him than what he won in 2016 uh he's effectively going to win all all seven Battleground States how did this come about uh Ivan what's the what's the read in in Trump HQ on how this Landslide was brought about well zanka I I didn't even say that in the Trump Camp they'd argue even without winning Arizona Nevada it's a
landslide Victory uh because it really has been surprising to see even earlier last night how much of a lead he was gaining in those key Battleground States I will tell you though that what were hearing from a lot of Voters in States across the country let's even just focus on those Battlegrounds which had a lot to say in terms of who was going back to that white house uh the economy was the number one issue and we're looking at things like inflation grocery prices gas prices housing market a lot of things uh
in that sector have been worrisome to the American uh population to the greater population uh and although inflation isn't necessarily Rising anymore it also hasn't gone any lower per se so prices have remained pretty much high at that point so every time someone goes back to the grocery store they're still looking at those high prices Trump and his campaign did a good job of being able to tie Harris to that Biden presidency and remind people in a way that she is no different than Biden if you vote for her you're going to get
the same thing that you got for uh from President Biden but it really is so overwhelming and we look at we look across the electorial map right that blue wall what Democrats say is so important to them Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania Trump flipping Pennsylvania Trump also flipping Wisconsin uh we were we were talking yesterday even if he was just able to get one of those it was going to be crucial to his White House Victory but now looking at the map he could walk away as you mentioned with Michigan as well would mean a complete
overhaul of that blue wall which Biden was able to flip uh it back in 2020 but States like Georgia they were gone Republican again uh North Carolina which Democrats were eager to possibly flip uh that remained uh under that GOP win Arizona Nevada I mean at this point like you mentioned it doesn't really matter what happens in those States but if they do uh go Trump's way is just even more of a sense of just how much of an overwhelming Victory it was not only in the Electoral College but also winning the popular
vote yeah uh I think last I check like I said Trump had 71 million kamla Harris had about 66 million Biden had 81 million so that's about 13 14 million less uh who have voted for the Democrats you know why they didn't do that I guess pundits will sort of scratch their heads and do their analysis about that but I'm coming to you Ivan from the US Congress from the US Capital Hill uh and this is going to be a different uh government now because you have a republican in the White House you have Republicans in control of the Senate and they are
within Striking Distance of uh taking or winning the House of Representatives what does that mean for Trump in his second term uh both in terms of appointments and also his agenda I mean look yesterday we saw Trump very excited for the fact that the GOP was able to secure uh control of the Senate uh you can only imagine uh he's very closely watching those key races in the house uh because if he is able to secure the house I mean it really opens out the door for uh his new government now uh to do a lot of the things that he
had uh said along the campaign trail that he' wanted uh to do a lot of these things do require Congressional approval uh although a lot of things have been said along along the campaign Trail right uh for example tax on tips to help uh other sort of policies a lot of them uh zaka require that help from Congress all right Ian we'll leave it with that thank you very much Ivan Rodriguez at West pal Beach Florida uh tracking the Trump campaign and of course there was a big party there after yesterday's speech Trump gave a big
speech and he said that the country is broken and we need to fix it we need to put America first that's been his messaging that's been his messaging for the last8 years but let me go to Lisa Curtis and take this forward now obviously you know there's a big domestic agenda but there's also a big foreign policy agenda for Donald Trump uh there are two Wars uh he has been an anti-war candidate all along right from the first time he ran in 2016 uh he might respond respond differently to the two Wars on Russia Ukraine he has said
publicly he will end it within 24 hours he will basically tell zilinsky take it or leave it what does that mean and two also on the Israel Hamas question now that you know I I just gave you the example of Dearborn Michigan where Arab Americans have voted overwhelmingly for Trump how does he play the Israel Hamas War does he give uh Netanyahu more of a more of a blank check or does he tell him okay go ahead finish the job but also end this war quickly well these are all great questions um I can give just a few
thoughts uh first on the Ukraine Russia War uh certainly he has said he wants to focus on negotiations focus on ending the war but the question is how do we do that and how do you do that in a way that you're not empowering Russia to try the same thing a few years later uh of course Trump doesn't want to look like he's giving in to Putin uh the American people certainly would not uh support that kind of solution so I think it's going to take time and the the question is how do you end the war in a way that you're not rewarding Russia and that
you're not encouraging Russia to try the same kind of illegal unjustified invasion of another country one two years down the line so I think that's a critical issue uh the second on Middle East uh look uh the Trump Administration was a huge supporter of Israel um they will continue to support Israel um in its fight and I think that uh you know we have to look at the fact that um Netanyahu also um understands that that Trump uh does not like to see conflicts prolong um would not want to see the US get embroiled in the conflict uh so I
think again you know I think Trump will be able to help the situation and perhap get to a position where there could be some kind of ceasefire or winding down of of this uh conflict as well and then lastly let me just say a few words about China um you know Trump had really uh set the policy uh toward China during his first term uh he had uh been very clear about restricting certain Technologies to China uh he had uh put in export controls um he had taken a very firm position on China's aggressive behavior uh toward other countries India
being one of them of course to the 2020 gawan crisis um so I would expect that he would continue uh with this strategy uh working with allies and partners in order to meet the China Challenge and more effectively compete uh this is this is the name of the game now the US is in competion with China all right Le Lisa um Tom Rose and and pon thank you very much for joining us us I want to shift Focus to the second part of our program and that is on the US India bilateral relationship and somebody who's seen that from very close quarters is Mr s
akarin former secretary to the ministry of external Affairs former spokesperson of the ministry of external Affairs good morning to you from Washington DC Mr Akin I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress it is a new dawn in America it's a republican wave Trump is back in the White House what does it mean for the India us bilateral of course I want to start off with the whole trade question because Trump at least on the campaign uh has said that he's going to impose a 20% straight up tariff on All Imports into the United
States and that includes imports from India uh what may that mean so um zaka first of all um U changes in US Administration are not new to the Indian establishment uh We've navigated uh these changes successfully previously now on your um specific uh issue of uh trade and tariff uh yes um these are challenges uh that uh uh globally everybody has to navigate and it's not that we haven't navigated trade related challenges with the US before for example in the last Trump Administration he withdrew the GSP um benefits for India um yes he's
transactional but then big countries know how to work with each other and um give and take relationship is what Trump understands and countries like India and the Indian diplomatic establishment know how to engage in this um dialogue and I don't see this as a major threat of course he needs intends to promote his interests on a uh basis which is not only antithetical to India alone it is a intention that he wants to impose these sort of restrictions of 10 to 20% across the globe with some exceptions uh where
their interests don't coincide like in China in terms of India us and India interests coincide so there will be such um pin Pricks but I don't see a Divergence in the big interest between the two countries I don't want to ask you about the China question because uh the feeling with the Biden Harris Administration uh at least in South block was that they distracted by what's going on in in West Asia the war there the Russia Ukraine war there uh they were not as much focused on China whereas with Trump and he said this
publicly so many times both when he was president and also on the campaign he's going to be squarely focused on what is the the the long-term challenge for the United States which is the rise of China uh do you think that would be good for India because India also has its own set of challenges with China so um yes um to the credit of uh the first Trump Administration they uh pivoted in a uh manner which no other administration had done in addressing their long-term challenges from China now uh India and us um interests
converge in this area um for a variety of reasons which are pretty obvious uh and therefore a convergence of Interest helps um in both the countries in working together and yes as you said uh if other issues or the other two Wars the two major Wars which are going on elsewhere in the world are addressed uh the focus will turn to issues uh uh uh relating to the common challenges faced by both India and China and other count sorry both India and the Us and other countries from uh a variety of um uh strategic um impulses from China having
said that uh there is one other thing I think we also need to be of and that is um the Republican Administration is less focused on values than on interests and that's a good sign because interests are easy to focus on values will always differ from perspectives which are uh different in both societies yeah I think that's a that's a great Point um especially on this whole business about kistan and all these separatist elements I think uh uh Trump won't be as uptight if I can use that word as the Democrat Administration has
been but thank you very much Mr akarin for joining us I'm in fact going to go across to one of your counterparts on the other side Ambassador Atul kab is the president of the US India Business Council Ambassador kab I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress outside you the Capital Hill uh it's a new morning in America it's a it's a red wave Trump is back in the white house as president the Republicans are in control of the Senate and will likely take the house as well uh what's your read what's your read of what went on uh last night
because nobody was predicting this kind of a landslide I mean the polls were saying that was going to be extremely close it boils down to the battlegrounds I think he's winning all seven Battlegrounds what what what exactly happened what what's your analysis well president Trump uh clearly ran on a CA uh campaign plank of keeping America strong uh and uh trying to uh address all of the wars and instability and ensuring the well-being of the American people so he clearly uh enjoyed a ground swell of support uh I think the
great Victory last night was not only President Trump's but of American democracy look at the American people queuing up and patiently voting in a free and fair election showing once again our passionate Devotion to democracy it's good for us it's good for all free people around the world so let's see what comes of it I do want to ask you about you know what Trump's agenda at least on the foreign policy front would be obviously he would be I mean his top two priorities would be the two Wars Israel Hamas and of course Russia Ukraine on
Russia Ukraine he has said public on the campaign that he's going to end it in day one he's going to end it in 24 hours he's basically going to tell zilinsky take it or leave it and he's going to shut off the eight his vice president uh now Vice president-elect uh J Vance has said in as many words in the senate floor and otherwise that uh Ukraine should not be given American Aid uh you reckon that is is likely how Trump is going to play the Russia Ukraine war zaka I want to talk to you about us India relations I think that Trump who
wrote The Art of the deal uh clearly is invested in in making deals and I think that us and India actually have an enormous opportunity to be ambitious so whatever happens in Russia Ukraine let's focus on Delhi and Washington let's focus on taking the US India strategic economic and technological convergence to the next level that's the critical work of the two great democracies of this planet what the reason I asked you that is because it has a knock-on effect I I know one sore point but between the Biden Harris Administration and New
Delhi was on India's import of Russian oil but be that as it may let's talk about what what Trump's economic agenda is and what his plan is uh he's basically saying anywhere between 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the United States and that will surely affect Indian Imports into the United States as well won't it well look this is where the president has president Trump has been very clear about the need for uh fair and balanced trade uh there H there have been structural imbalance bances in America's trade with many
countries around the world uh since the pandemic we've also had Rising concerns about supply chain vulnerability this is where again if Delhi and Washington play it well and if Delhi H understands the sensitivities of the American people as telegraphed through this election then I think there's an opportunity for both India and America to be entrepreneurial recall that in the last days of the Trump Administration in Trump 1 there was a very uh intense effort to try to forge a meaningful trade deal and I think that
if both sides can get back to that there is a chance for both Delhi and Washington to be ambitious to achieve some big things for both Indian and American people and to reinforce the connectivity between High trust Nations such as India and the United States and strengthen our supply chains but it does require that our partners understand the sensitivities and feelings of the American people uh um I I want to get one final word from Ambassador Kash mukes AI is also joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum but
Ambassador kop just on that question when Trump was President between 2016 and 2020 you know this I mean you had a ringside view of this how he railed about you know the harleydavidson tariffs that India was imposing how he was upset about India buying S400 uh missile defense systems from Russia uh H how do you see that that sort of playing out I mean India's defense partner for example even today despite the war and all of that almost 50% of India's defense Imports are from Russia well I also remember zaka that
the president visited India uh to ahmadabad for that big rally he also hosted Prime Minister Modi in Houston Texas and so much else besides and I vividly remember from my time in government that when India uh was facing the a rather terrible challenge at galwan uh and made some requests of the United States uh for help uh in critical areas uh president Trump made a decision to rush that Aid to India because of the strength of the relationship between the Indian and American people so I think what will need to happen is clear conversations
between Delhi and Washington uh in Trump to about the respective needs of one another and then serious work to forge an ambitious agenda for continued strategic economic and technological convergence because it's important for both of us and it's frankly important for the stability and happiness of of the world all right Ambassador kop thank you very much is always a pleasure speaking with you let's see uh if us India sees a new dawn under Trump 2.
0 mukes AI from the US India strategic partnership forum is also now joining us thank you very much Mr AI good morning to you I'm coming to you live from Washington DC outside the US Congress uh the Capital Hill uh just tell us I mean your assessment your hot take of what exactly happened last night it's a massive Landslide for Donald Trump and the Republican party well you had a very effective campaign by the Republican party they were organized their messaging was right which resonated with the people and you have a for the first time in last 20
years popular award also being won by the president the Senate and the White House and and we're waiting for the results on the house also so I think it seems to be a clean sweep for the president on his agenda and and that's going to be disruptive you know Global basis uh I do want to talk to you about one of the big issues that Trump made on the campaign was about illegal immigration uh and when we were speaking to people you know around around the DC area over the last 2 or 3 days that we've been here you know including
people in the indian-american community the indian-american community wants more legal immigration into the United States and they were saying that the people who uh who illegal immigration affects most are actually the legal immigrants do you see Trump once he is done with this whole business of you know mass deportations or whatever it is that he wants to do to address the illegal immigration problem do you see him addressing the legal immigration issue as well because that system is also broken no absolutely I think you have to
understand uh the crying need for the US business Community is uh skills and Manpower women power and it's important to basically hire those people and there's a massive shortage especially in the tech world and what we are seeing is is the legal immigration is being impacted by the illegal we have around 16 million illegal immigrants and and by the way the third largest uh illegal immigrants are now coming from India itself that has a perative impact on the legal side so I think it's important we address that because if we don't address
that then the companies are not globally efficient effective and they need talent to be be able to build business both domestically and globally so he's also saying look I mean I know some of it could be campaign rhetoric he might turn it down when he is actually governing that this hold 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the us if not then you have to come and set up a plant here in the in the United States do you see this working because ultimately if there's going to be tariffs then um you know companies are
going to pass that on to the consumers it's not like they're doing this for for charity well uh the economy have estimated that if you put 20% tariff it has almost a uh 2% inflationary impact and also have almost a dramatic impact on the GDP growth also because at the end of the day it's a consumer which pays for that last time when the Tariff was set up we didn't see a massive movement of companies moving manufacturing back to the US you have to understand it's not all manufacturing will move back some will definitely move
back but overall there's a massive skill shortage what we will see is basically is that uh China will get impacted the most because the promise is to put 60% tariff on Chinese Goods coming into the country so lot of us companies who are concerned about their supply chain concerned about their revenue and sales will look at other Alternatives beside China to set up manufacturing yes high-end manufacturing may move back uh to the us but the the low in manufacturing will stay in Asia and other part of the world and India can
play a very pivotal role and it's not just about being part of the global supply chain India also offered us companies Market opportunity you look at Apple which moved part of his manufacturing to India and his domestic Revenue has gone up over5 Billion Dollar itself so I think it's a combination of global supply chain drisking uh manufacturing and at the same time gaining market share and very quickly Mr Ari before we let you go uh obviously the the big foreign policy challenge the most immediate priority for him would be to end the two
Wars and Trump to his credit has been anti-war ever since he first ran as as a candidate in 2016 um how do you see him play both the Russia Ukraine war and the Israel Hamas War when you look at on the Ukraine and Russia front uh they made it very clear the Republican party that they will not anymore supply all the weapons and money to Ukraine itself and there has been some kind of a discussion with Putin so I think you will see some kind of a settlement happening on that war in the case of Middle East I believe they will
give a more freehand to n to go basically uh deal with the proxies which is the Hezbollah huis and Hamas itself but more important is is the stress point with China I think it's important to understand that both Republican and Democrats see China as a critical adversary both from a military side economic side and Technology side and that's where India becomes critical in the strategy of leveraging uh India to deal with encounter China itself and you have to understand that one area which we will see more focus is going to take
place is is quad the four countries which is Japan Australia India and the US and I believe the W will percolate into the economic agreement also because you have four countries whose total GDP is around $35 trillion they can work together as a potential Common Market which will be an easier thing to do and that's going to basically affect India dealing with the Tariff of 20% also so we believe that while the focus is going to be initially Middle East and Europe sorry Middle East and Ukraine but quar will play a pivital role also
I think that's a great point because when Trump was President between 16 and 20 uh he was the one who gave so much impetus to move quad into a head of government uh sort of setting eventually of course the first head of summit head of state quad meeting happened when Biden became president uh but he did really really push the quad so I think that's a great Point made thank you very much Mukesh Ari for joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum uh it is a big big moment in America's political Journey no doubt about it
Donald Trump has man to do something that no American president has done in over a 100 years gr Cleveland back in 1918 uh after he won a term then lost reelection came back after 4 years and then won a second term so for Trump this is a bit of redemption if you will this is a shot uh at creating history again making America great again as he keeps saying uh and I think the most important thing is Trump realizes that there is a broken system whether it's on immigration with its own economy and he has made a promise to the American
voters that he will fix it so the next 4 years we will uh we will wait and see uh whether or not he's able to live up to those uh High promises we'll take a quick break when we come back on the other side uh I've done a a quick walk through into what exactly happened why the Democrats got uh this election so wrong they were going into this election with a one straight narrow path strategy which was to win the blue wall States and then everything else will take care of it and that has simply come off the seams I'll explain that right on the
other side of this quick [Music] break addition it's the morning after election day and election night in America we're coming to you live from the US Capital Hill where the US Congress will now be shaded completely in red a republican is going to be the next Resident of the White House the Republicans have taken control of the US Senate and they are within Striking Distance of taking control of the House of Representatives which means once that happens the Republicans will have control of all three branches of
government here in the United States and that is a huge thing uh the last time that happened was in 2016 when uh Trump won all three branches of government he pipped Hillary Clinton but like I said a moment ago today's Victory is bigger than what Trump achieved back in 2016 it is bigger uh even in terms of Electoral College votes bigger than what Biden achieved four years ago so how did this come about we will get into the nities we will dive into the numbers like I said Trump is on course to win all seven of the Swing States Trump is winning the
popular vote and by a margin he right now last I checked is at over 71 million votes across uh the United States and kamla Harris is at over 66 million votes no one said that Trump would win the popular vote by this kind of a margin this is way above the plus or minus three margin of error in the polls this is closer to 5% uh of the entire electorate and therefore this has been a sweeping a sweeping victory for the Republicans and for Donald Trump we will try and break it down for you as to how he won and also take it Forward because
he's got a lot of work to do both domestically and internationally what are his priorities going to be we lay out the Trump agenda and the Trump vision for the first uh 100 days or the first uh you know first year at least because he has a lot of work to do both domestically and abroad uh this is how it played out in what has turned out to be a tremendous night for Trump the Republicans and of course a night of heartbreak for kamla Harris and the [Applause] Democrats America again oh and Powerful M [Applause] day frankly this was I believe the
greatest political movement of all time there's never been anything like this in this country and maybe Beyond you have some great senators and some great new senators and it also looks like we'll be keeping control of the House of Representatives we are going to start by all putting America first we have to put our country first for at least a period of time we have to fix it because together we can truly make America great again for all Americans we made history for a reason tonight you know Trump has been running
on this campaign of making America great again for the last eight years and 70 million plus Americans have bought into that they bought into it in 2016 they bought into it in 2020 and they've boughten into it uh in 2024 but I think frankly what tilted the scales for Trump and this phenomenal this stunning comeback that we're seeing is the campaign line that he ran for the last few weeks saying Trump will fix it I think that resonated with a lot of Voters people were upset they were angry about the economy about cost of living
cost of groceries uh cost of housing had gone up and then of of course a lot of Americans were upset about America's role in these two ongoing Wars and the fact that the Biden Harris Administration was no doing nothing to stop these two Wars Trump simply said Hispanic or Asian-American they have voted as Americans first and Trump has and his message of trump will fix it has resonated with Americans irrespective of racial divides or even gender divides which was of course stocked up by the Democrats in a big way uh going into
election day let me now bring in our guests first part we will will try and analyze how this stunning this stunning Republican wave how it was Mastered by Trump and his team over the last few weeks and months uh and then of course we will lay out the agenda forward because he I I believe is going to fundamentally restructure the American government the American bureaucracy in ways that we haven't seen since God knows uh FDR back in the 1930s uh Tom Rose is a senior adviser to Mr Donald Trump he was also adviser to the former
vice president Mike Pence pun alalia former Republican candidate for left governor in Virginia AJ boria is Deputy National Finance chair of the democratic party Lisa Kurt is Deputy assistant uh uh Secretary of State and of course now she is uh the head of the uh the indo-pacific security Center at the center for New American Security Tom Rose uh good morning to you from Washington DC let me start with you I remember interviewing you a couple of weeks ago and you said you were very confident that Trump will win his
message was resonating with uh with ordinary voters what is your first reading of this wave this Red Wave Trump has won all seven or at least is on the verge of winning all seven of the Battleground States he's won the popular vote by over five percentage points that is not something that the pollster saw or the pundits saw or even the news media saw I think it's it's perhaps the most remarkable uh political story certainly in American history this man survived two impeachments 91 indictments 34 phony felony convictions uh two assassination
attempts a lost presidential election an FBI raid of his of his private home uh media collusion to destroy or delegitimize him the opposition in unison calling him the worst conceivable names comparing him to history's most bloodthirsty brutal dictators and he comes out and he wins what could be 315 electoral votes out of the 538 total I think what it says is that the American people have had enough with the elite institutions and Elite voices that continually assume they know what's best for us and I think the American people
reject Ed that this was a rainbow Victory president Trump won half of the Latino Or Hispanic vote unheard of George W bush yep in 2004 won 40% and everyone thought that was the high Watermark he won almost 30% of black men this was not a white rage vote this was a multi-ethnic multi-racial landslide victory for a man who promises to fix America's great problems you know I think that's a fascinating uh Insight tomrose let me get Lisa Curtis in on this uh you were here Lisa a couple of days ago we were speaking about it uh you know I don't
think anyone can say that this is the kind of whitelash uh uh verdict which which uh many said 2016 was uh you know the the the Forgotten America the left behinds was sort of raging Against The Establishment this is I mean like like Tom Rose said he he has won more Hispanic Americans than any other Republican who ran for president uh he's won more of the male African-American vote than any one who ran for uh for president at least in the modern era from the Republican side uh you know and I was looking at this this place it's
called Dearborn in Michigan it has the highest proportion of of Arab Americans in in America in any City you know who won there Donald Trump what does that say to the Democrats politics of appealing and pandering to to just race and nothing else well I think it shows that uh president-elect Trump was able to connect with the voters um voters you know from all kinds of backgrounds minority voters as you point out he held steady with the women vote there was a lot of speculation you remember just two days ago zaka when we were speaking
there was you know a lot of people talking about you know women were breaking for Kamala well I don't think these things happened in the end I think uh he was able to convince uh voters on uh his policies on the economy on immigration those were two major issues uh for voters and also just that he would uh be able to fight for their interests uh protect their interests and so people basically just felt that uh he was going to be the leader who was going to look out for their own interest look out for the American people he showed
himself to be a fighter um he he ran a very hard and and persistent campaign uh as you mentioned there were two assassination attempts against him I think it was a remarkable moment when you know he had part of his ear shut off what did he do he stood up he pumped his fist um so not not everybody is is going to respond to an assassination attempt that way and I think this showed the kind of leader he is and that he really would fight for the American people and I I think that is what has won him um so handily uh he he has won this handily
people didn't expect that I myself I say uh you know I thought it would be a closer race you know I thought the holes were more neck and neck um but I think he has shown that uh he's got a very strong mandate uh it's a very clear vote uh for him and his leadership and I think in the end of the day uh people basically thought he would be the leader to fight harder for their own interest and to protect America and everything it stands for you know I I think for me what was fascinating was um he was able to appeal
to Americans You know despite or beyond their ID identities whether it is by race or by gender uh you know you look at look at a problem like illegal immigration you could accuse Trump of you know simplifying it and making it uh sound inhumane and so on and so forth But ultimately there is a problem and that problem needs to be fixed who does illegal immigration affect the most it doesn't affect white Americans it affects legal IM immigrants into this country it affects the Hispanics and the African-Americans and the
asian-americans disproportionately compared to how it affects Americans and he was able to convey this message to those communities that look this is not about immigration this is about violent crime and these are people who are coming to your neighborhoods infesting your neighborhoods making your life difficult and a lot of people have bought into that message you look at you know one of the counties which has the highest proportion of uh Puerto Rican Americans in in in Pennsylvania uh and despite all the the rhetoric and the
comedian who made that joke about Puerto Ricans you know who won that County Donald Trump Trump won that County so pun aluia what does that say I think it's got to a stage where politicians and this is not just here in America it's across the world it's in India uh it's in it's in um other democracies you cannot just be playing identity politics you have to at the end of the day if you are the incumbent run on your record and show why your record is better than your opponents and if you're the anti-incumbent then say what you're
going to do better than the incumbent to make the lives of ordinary people uh better and not just say oh you're African-American therefore you have to vote Democrat how can you dare think of voting for Trump you're Hispanic look at all the stuff that Trump and his supporters are saying about uh Hispanics how can you dare vote for Trump that politics of just spering to a narrow racial identity is not working is not working anymore pun alalia well Victory and Vindication is the headline for president Trump and for
the Republicans who have stood by him since 2016 or time he started but more importantly the message is that the Democratic party or the liberal leftist media and socialist social Elites want to have a view of America according to them and this is a clear message for them look at we as a Republicans we went through a process where we elected president Trump to be the next leader of the Republican party and what happened on the Democratic side is she was anointed as soon as they found out that Biden was incapable to lead the country
or be the head of the uh leader of the democratic party and then what she said she had no message she had no message and we as Americans have been suffering for the last four years after they inherited a very successful economy a safe a safer world than before and and that rhetoric of imposing on American people that he's a fascist he's a racist didn't sit well with people and now guess what they have lost handily and it's complete sweep so what it says is that identity politics is not here to say and all Arab Americans all Hispanic
Americans asian-americans what is one thing very common in them they're all American they're all impacted and affected by failed policies of the democratic party the VM has to stop the rule of law has to Prevail weaponizing of the doj has to stop this country has to come together and we have to lead not just only for the American people but for the entire world look at the Bad actors Trump in Europe we have Putin and we have North Korea and Iran we need to find a way to resolve these issues and president Trump was so good in this as
he started the Arab Arab the Abram Accord I think we'll find peace there we'll find a way to get the NATO to be stronger but the NATO Partners have to contribute more and at the same time China that's the biggest uh I would say the Gilla in the room that we need to take on and find a way to neutralize that and do business with them and I believe President Trump is the right lead the right I'll get to the the forward agenda in just one second I yeah I want to get to a boria for the Democrats I think one of the points that
pun alalia made I think the fact that a the Democrats took too long to figure out that Joe Biden was not in a position uh to run again uh his mental equities was simply not there uh uh you know kamla Harris just had 107 days uh to make the case to the American people that she was the alternative and clearly uh not many Americans have bought into that in fact you if you look at the popular vote if you look at the raw data uh she has about 66 million votes Which is less way less than what Biden got Biden got 81 million in the 2020
elections so there're about 14 15 million Americans who've either not turned up or who voted for somebody else but they certainly have not voted for KLA Harris in fact her popular vote is even less than what Hillary Clinton got Hillary Clinton got 73 million I think uh in 2016 so it's about 56 million short of what Hillary Clinton got uh years ago so either the candidate was unpopular and that point that Punit made I think is absolutely validly taken and please address that uh Mr boria you cannot impose a candidate on the
American people he or she has to come through the the primary process and unfortunately in your party kamla Harris did not come through that primary process the last time she went through that primary process she was eliminated even before I think the first primary ever happened well um first of all congratulations to President elect Trump and uh as one of the speakers said I do admire all his strength going through so much and uh is still string strong to fight for American people and U as the pun pointed out or you pointed out kamla
had 117 days and to bring the case to who she is and what she stands for to the American people and I think she did a good fairly good job in uh getting her message across uh the American people have made it very clear choice that they want Trump to handle the economy the immigration issues the the the wars and everything and to make the country more safe so uh that's a that's a choice American people have made and we go with that now the transition from President Biden to kamla I do agree that a lot of people
within the party and a lot of people uh you know outside they did not like the way the transition was done I was knocking doors in the Wayne County in Pennsylvania and we were talking about the undecided voters to say Hey you know you should be voting for kamla and one of the folk ask me that you guys are talking about saving democracy and uh but you did not elect your candidate democratically so how are you going to protect Democratic I said yeah that's question so so that's a question with many voters Point yeah many undecided voters
had and I think that played out in favor of trump I think that's a fantastic point and I think that resonated uh W with the with the with the undecideds uh that's a great point that Mr Bor has made let me go back to to Tom Rose and to try and take this forward what is Trump's agenda going to be first domestically and then I'll ask Lisa about the international agenda but domestically Trump has basically and he said this over and over again in his campaign he is going to fundamentally restructure the American bureaucracy which means RFK Jr becomes
Health secretary uh Elon Musk becomes the secretary for the Department of controlling government expenditure what have you uh and now he has the Mandate he's got a sweeping mandate the biggest that a republican has had I think since George W bush if not Ronald Reagan uh and more importantly he has control of the Senate so he can get anyone appointed as secretary or Ambassador uh in the next two years still till they have control of the Senate so how may you think Trump is going to restructure the American government the American
bureaucracy in particular well I think he's been uh I think he's zaka been very clear about what he wants to do we need a closed border we need a fixed immigration system we need Mass deportation of illegal criminals in the United States of whom there are hundreds of thousands he now has the ability to begin to do that but let's not forget Saka that the administrative State the bureaucracy if you will the civil service is still in place the legal system is still in place the uh the Democrats the left are not
going to roll over uh and die they'll file lawsuit after lawsuit or injunction after injunction they'll get their judges to try and stop and that's the way our democracy works I'm not uh uh necessarily complaining about that we have a system of checks and balances designed to ensure that not one single branch of government is uh supreme or has more power than the others but on the judicial side we now have three members of the Supreme Court who are over 70 years old two of those are conservative one is liberal uh we might
see um uh some retirements on the court now that uh we're assured that they can be replaced by conservative uh uh uh judges so as significant and as important as this election is uh our American system of government is designed to slow things down it's built with sand in the gears if you will to ensure that there can't be uh a dramatic radical change without popular mandates now Trump has a significant popular mandate he's been very clear about what he wants to do his main objectives he'll be able to accomplish but some of the
broader thematic themes uh I think we're still going to have to wait and see all right let me also go across to CNN reporter Ivan Rodriguez is joining us from West Palm Beach Florida uh he's of course been keeping an eye out on the Trump campaign uh Trump came out and spoke last night to his supporters massive massive win um I know that CNN has still not projected Michigan Arizona or Nevada yet but Trump is leading in all three states and if you were to win all three this would be a bigger mandate for him than what he won in 2016 uh
is effectively going to win all seven Battleground States how did this come about Ivan what's the what's the read in in Trump HQ on how this Landslide was brought about uh well zanka I I'd even say that in the Trump Camp they'd argue even without winning Arizona Nevada it's a landslide Victory uh because it really has been surprising to see even earlier last night how much of a lead he was gaining in those key Battleground States I will tell you though that what we're hearing from a lot of Voters in States across the country let's even just focus
on those Battlegrounds which had a lot to say in terms of who was going back to that white house uh the economy was the number one issue and we're looking at things like inflation grocery prices gas prices housing market a lot of things uh in that sector have been worrisome to the American uh population to the greater population uh and although inflation isn't necessarily Rising anymore it also Al hasn't gone any lower per se so prices have remained pretty much high at that point so every time someone goes back to the grocery store
they're still looking at those high prices Trump and his campaign did a good job of being able to tie Harris to that Biden presidency and remind people in a way that she is no different than Biden if you vote for her you're going to get the same thing that you got for uh from President Biden but it really is so overwhelming and we look at we look across the elori right that blue wall what Democrats say is so important to them Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania Trump flipping Pennsylvania Trump also flipping Wisconsin uh we were we were
talking yesterday even if he was just able to get one of those it was going to be crucial to his White House Victory but now looking at the map he could walk away as you mentioned with Michigan as well would mean a complete overhaul of that blue wall which Biden was able to flip uh it back in 2020 but States like Georgia they were gone Republican again uh uh North Carolina which Democrats were eager to possibly flip uh that remained uh under that GOP win Arizona Nevada I mean at this point like you mentioned it doesn't really matter what
happens in those States but if they do uh go Trump's way is just even more of a sense of just how much of an overwhelming Victory it was not only in the Electoral College but also winning the popular vote yeah uh I think last I check like I said Trump had 71 million kamla Harris had about 66 million Biden had 81 million so that's about 13 14 million less uh who have voted for the Democrats you know why they didn't do that I guess pundits will sort of scratch their heads and do their analysis about that but I'm
coming to you Ian from the US Congress from the US Capital Hill uh and this is going to be a different uh government now because you have a republican in the White House you have Republicans in control of the Senate and they are within Striking Distance of uh taking winning the House of Representatives what does that mean for Trump in his second term uh both in terms of appointments and also his agenda I mean look yesterday we saw Trump very excited for the fact that the GOP was able to secure uh control of the
Senate uh you can only imagine uh he's very closely watching those key races in the house uh because if he is able uh to secure that house I mean it really opens up the door for his new government now to do a lot of the things that he had uh said along the campaign trail that he' wanted uh to do a lot of these things do require Congressional approval uh although a lot of things have been said along the campaign Trail right uh for example tax on tips to help uh other sort of policies a lot of them uh zaka require that help from
Congress all right Ivan we'll leave it with that thank you very much Ian Rodriguez at West Palm Beach Florida tracking the Trump campaign and of course there was a big party there after yesterday's speech Trump gave a big speech and he said that the country is broken and we need to fix it we need to put America first that's been his messaging that's been his messaging for the last eight years but let me go to Lisa Curtis and take this forward now obviously you know there's a big domestic agenda but there's also a big
foreign policy agenda for Donald Trump uh there are two Wars uh he has been an anti-war candidate all along right from the first time he ran in 2016 uh he might respond differently to the two Wars on Russia Ukraine he has said publicly he will end it within 24 hours he will basically tell zalinski take it or leave it what does that mean and two also on the Israel Hamas question now that you know I I just gave you the example of Dearborn Michigan where Arab Americans have voted overwhelmingly for Trump how does he play the Israel Hamas
War does he give uh Netanyahu uh more of a more of a blank check or does he tell him okay go ahead finish the job but also end this war quickly well these are all great questions um I can give just a few thoughts uh first on the Ukraine Russia War uh certainly he has said he wants to focus on negotiations focus on ending the war but the question is how do we do that and how do you do that in a way that you're not empowering Russia to try the same thing a few years later uh of course Trump doesn't want to look like he's
giving in to Putin uh the American people certainly would not uh support that kind of solution so I think it's going to take time and the the question is how do you end the war in a way that you're not rewarding Russia and that you're not encouraging Russia to try the same kind of illegal unjustified invasion of another country one two years down the line so I think that's a critical issue uh the second on Middle East uh look uh the Trump Administration was a huge supporter Israel um they will continue to support
Israel um in its fight and I think that uh you know we have to look at the fact that um Netanyahu also um understands that that Trump uh does not like to see conflicts prolong um would not want to see the US get embroiled in the conflict uh so I think again you know I think Trump will be able to help the situation and perhaps get to a position where there could be some kind of ceasefire or winding down of this uh conflict as well and then lastly let me just say a few words about China um you know Trump had really uh set the policy uh toward China
during his first term uh he had uh been very clear about restricting certain Technologies to China uh he had uh put in export controls um he had taken a very firm position on China's aggressive behavior uh toward other countries India being one of them of course to the uh 2020 gawan crisis um so I would expect that he would continue uh with this strategy uh working with allies and partners in order to meet the China Challenge and more effectively compete uh this is this is the name of the game now the US is in competion with China
all right le le Lisa um Tom Rose and and Punit thank you very much for joining us us I want to shift Focus to the second part of our program and that is on the US India bilateral relationship and somebody who's seen that from very close quarters is Mr s akarin former secretary to the ministry of external Affairs former spokesperson of the ministry of external Affairs good morning to you from Washington DC Mr Akin I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress it is a new dawn in America it's a republican wave Trump is back in the
White House what does it mean for the India us bilateral of course I want to start off with the whole trade question because Trump at least on the campaign uh has said that he's going to impose a 20% straight up tariff on All Imports into the United States and that includes imports from India uh what may that mean so um zaka first of all um changes in US Administration are not new to the Indian establishment uh We've navigated uh these changes successfully previously now on your um specific uh issue of uh trade and tariff uh yes um these are
challenges that uh globally everybody has to navigate and it's not that we haven't navigated trade related challenges with the US before for example in the last Trump Administration he withdrew the GSP um benefits for India um yes he's transactional but then big countries know how to work with each other and um a give and take relationship is what Trump understands and countries like India and the Indian diplomatic establishment know how to engage in this um dialogue and I don't see this as a major threat of course uh
he needs intends to promote his interest on a uh basis which is not only antithetical to India alone it is a intention that he wants to impose these sort of restrictions of 10 to 20% across the globe with some exceptions uh where their interests don't coincide like in China in terms of India us and India interests coincide so there will be such um P Pricks but I don't see a Divergence in the big interest between the two countries I don't want to ask you about the China question because uh the feeling with the Biden Harris
Administration uh at least in South block was that they distracted by what's going on in in West Asia the war there the Russia Ukraine war there uh they were not as much focused on China whereas with Trump and he said said this publicly so many times both when he was president and also on the campaign he's going to be squarely focused on what is the the the long-term challenge for the United States which is the rise of China uh do you think that would be good for India because India also has its own set of challenges with
China so um yes um to the credit of uh the first Trump Administration they uh pivoted in a uh manner which no other administration had done in addressing their long-term challenges from China now uh India and us um interests converge in this area um for a variety of reasons uh which are pretty obvious uh and therefore a convergence of Interest helps um in both the countries in working together and yes as you said uh if other issues or the other two Wars the two major Wars which are going on elsewhere in the world are addressed uh
the focus will turn to issues uh uh relating to the common challenges faced by both India and China and other count sorry both India and the Us and other countries from uh a variety of um uh strategic um impulses from China said that uh there is one other thing I think we also need to be of and that is um the Republican Administration is less focused on um values than on interest and that's a good sign because interests are easy to focus on values will always differ from perspectives which are different in both
societies yeah I think that's a that's a great Point um especially on this whole business about kistan and all these separatist elements I think uh uh Trump won't be as uptight if I can use that word as the Democrat Administration has been but thank you very much Mr akarin for joining us I'm in fact going to go across to one of your counterparts on the other side Ambassador Atul kab uh is the president of the US India Business Council Ambassador kab I'm coming to you live from outside the US Congress outside the Capital Hill uh it's a new
morning in America it's a it's a red wave Trump is back in the white house as president the Republicans are in control of the Senate and will likely take the house as well uh what's your read what's your read of what went on uh last night because nobody was predicting this kind of a landslide I mean the polls were saying that it was going to be extremely close it boils down to the Battlegrounds I think he's winning all seven Battlegrounds what what what exactly happened what what's your analysis well president Trump uh clearly
ran on a CA uh campaign plank of keeping America strong uh and uh trying to uh address all of the wars and instability and ensuring the well-being of the American people so he clearly uh enjoyed a ground swell of support uh I think the great Victory last night was not only President Trump's but of American democracy look at the American people queuing up and patiently voting in a free and fair election showing once again our passionate Devotion to democracy it's good for us it's good for all free people around the world so
let's see what comes of it I do want to ask you about you know what Trump's agenda at least on the foreign policy front would be obviously he would be I mean his top two priorities would be the two Wars Israel Hamas and of course Russia Ukraine on Russia Ukraine he has said publicly on the campaign that he's going to end it in day one he's going to end it in 24 hours he's basically going to tell ziny take it or leave it and he's going to shut off the eight his vice president uh now Vice president-elect uh JD Vance has
said in as many words in the senate floor and otherwise that uh Ukraine should not be given American Aid uh you reckon that is is likely how Trump is going to play the Russia Ukraine war zaka I want to talk to you about us India relations I think that Trump who wrote The Art of the deal uh clearly is invested in making deals and I think that us and India actually have an enormous opportunity to be ambitious so whatever happens in Russia Ukraine let's focus on Delhi and Washington let's focus on taking the US India strategic
economic and technological convergence to the next level that's the critical work of the two great democracies of this planet what the reason I asked you that is because it has a knock-on effect I know one sore point between the Biden Harris Administration and New Delhi was on India's import of Russian oil but be that as it may let's talk about what what Trump's economic agenda is and what his plan is uh he's basically saying anywhere between 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the United States and that will surely affect Indian Imports
into the United States as well won't it well look this is where the president has president Trump has been very clear about the need for uh fair and balanced trade uh there have there have been structural imbalances in America's trade with many countries around the world uh since the pandemic we've also had Rising concerns about supply chain vulnerability this is where again if Delhi and Washington play it well and if Delhi understands the sensitivities of the American people as telegraphed through this election then I think
there's an opportunity for both India and America to be entrepreneurial recall that in the last days of the Trump Administration in Trump one there was a very uh intense effort to try to forge a meaningful trade deal and I think that if both sides can get back to that there is a chance for both Delhi and Washington to be ambitious to achieve some big things for both Indian and American people and to reinforce the connectivity between High trust Nations such as India and the United States and strengthen our supply chains but it does
require that our partners understand and the sensitivities and feelings of the American people uh um I I want to get one final word from Ambassador kup mukes AI is also joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum but Ambassador kab just on that question when Trump was President between 2016 and 2020 you know this I mean you had a ringside view of this how he railed about you know the harleydavidson tariffs that India was imposing how he was upset about India buying S400 uh missile defense systems from Russia uh
how do you see that that sort of playing out I mean India's defense partnership for example even today despite the war and all of that almost 50% of India's defense Imports are from Russia well I also remember zaka that the president visited India uh to ahmadabad for that big rally he also hosted Prime Minister Modi in Houston Texas and so much else besides and I vividly remember from my time in government that when India uh was facing the uh rather terrible challenge at galwan uh and made some requests of the
United States uh for help uh in critical areas uh president Trump made a decision to rush that Aid to India because of the strength of the relationship between the Indian and American people so I think what will need to happen is clear conversations between Delhi and Washington uh in Trump to about the respective needs of one another and then serious work to forge an ambitious agenda for continued strategic economic and technological convergence because it's important for both of us and it's frankly important for the stability and
happiness of the world all right Ambassador kab thank you very much as always a pleasure speaking with you let's see uh if us India sees a new dawn under Trump 2.0 mukes AI from the US India strategic partnership forum is also now joining us thank you very much Mr AI good morning to you I'm coming to you live from Washington DC outside the US Congress the Capital Hill uh just tell us I mean your assessment your hot take of what exactly happened last night it's a massive lands lied for Donald Trump and the Republican
Party well you had a very affected campaign by the Republican party they were organized their messaging was right which resonated with the people and you have a for the first time in last 20 years popular award also being won by the president the Senate and the White House and and we're waiting for the results on the house also so I think it seems to be a clean sweep for the president on his agenda and and that's going to be disrupted on a global basis uh I do want to talk to you about one of the big issues that Trump made on
the campaign was about illegal immigration uh and when we were speaking to people you know around around the DC area over the last two or 3 days that we've been here you know including people in the indian-american community the indian-american community wants more legal immigration into the United States and they were saying that the people who uh who illegal immigration affects most are actually the legal immigrants do you see Trump once he's done with this whole business of you know mass deportations or whatever it is that he
wants to do to address the illegal immigration problem do you see him addressing the legal immigration issue as well because that system is also broken no absolutely I think you have to understand uh the crying need for the US business Community is uh skills and man power women power and it's important to basically hire those people and there's a massive shortage especially in the tech world and what we are seeing is is the legal immigration is being impacted by the illegal we have around 16 million illegal immigrants and and by the way
the third largest uh illegal immigrants are now coming from India itself that has a percolative impact on the legal side so I think it's important we address that because if we don't address that then the companies are not globally efficient effective and they need talent to be be able to build business uh both domestically and globally so he's also saying look I mean I know some of it could be campaign rhetoric he might turn it down when he is actually governing that this whole 10 to 20% tariffs on All Imports into the us if
not then you have to come and set up a plant here in the in the United States do you see this working because ultimately if there's going to be tariffs then um you know companies are going to pass that on to the consumers it's not like they're doing this for for charity well uh the economists have estimated that if you put 20% tariff uh it has almost a uh uh 2% inflationary impact and also have almost a dramatic impact on the GDP growth also because at the end of the day is a consumer which pays for that last time when the Tariff was
set up we didn't see a massive movement of companies moving manufacturing back to the US you have to understand U uh it's not not all manufacturing will move back some will definitely move back but overall there's a massive skill shortage what we will see is basically is that uh China will get impacted the most because the uh promise is to put 60% tariff on Chinese Goods coming into the country so a lot of us companies who are concerned about their supply chain concerned about their revenue and sales will look at
other Alternatives beside China to set of manufacturing yes high-end Manufacturing may move back uh to the US but the the lowend manufacturing will stay in Asia and other part of the world and India can play a very pivotal role and it's not just about uh being part of the global supply chain India also offered us companies Market opportunity you look at Apple which moved part of his manufacturing to India and his domestic Revenue has gone up over5 Billion Dollar itself so I think it's a combination of global supply chain
drisking uh manufacturing and at the same time gaining market share and very quickly Mr AI before we let you go uh obviously the the big foreign policy challenge the most immediate priority for him would be to end the two Wars and Trump to his credit has been anti-war ever since he first ran as as a candidate in 2016 um how do you see him play both the Russia Ukraine war and the Israel Hamas War when you look at on the Ukraine and Russia front uh they made it very clear the Republic party that they will not anymore supply all the weapons and money
to Ukraine itself and there has been some kind of a discussion with Putin so I think you will see some kind of a settlement happening on that war in the case of Middle East I believe they will give a more free hand to nathu to go basically uh deal with the proxies which is the Hezbollah hutis and Hamas itself but more important is is the stress point with China I think it's important to understand that both Republican and Democrats see China as a critical adversary both for a military side economic side and Technology side and
that's where India becomes critical in the strategy of leveraging uh India to deal with encounter China itself and you have to understand that one area which we will see more focus is going to take place is is quad the four countries which is Japan Australia India and the us and I believe the quad will percolate into the economic agreement also because there have four countries whose total GDP is around $35 trillion they can work together as a potential Common Market which will be an easier thing to do and that's going to basically affect India
dealing with the Tariff of 20% also so we believe that while the focus is going to be initially Middle East and Europe sorry Middle East and Ukraine but quar will play a pivotal role also I think that's a great point because when Trump was President between 16 and 20 uh he was the one who gave so much impetus to move quad into a head of government uh sort of setting eventually of course the first head of summit head of state quad meeting happened when Biden became president uh but he did really really push the quad so I think
that's a great Point made thank you very much Mukesh AI for joining us from the US India strategic partnership Forum uh it is a big big moment in America's political Journey No Doubt out about it Donald Trump has managed to do something that no American president has done in over a 100 years gr Cleveland back in 1918 after he won a term then lost re-election came back after 4 years and then won a second term so for Trump this is a bit of redemption if you will this is a shot uh at creating history again making America great again as he keeps
saying uh and I think the most important thing is Trump realizes that there is a broken system whether it's on immigration whether it's on economy and he has made a promise to the American voters that he will fix it so the next four years we will uh we will wait and see uh whether or not he's able to live up to those uh High promises we'll take a quick break when we come back on the other side uh I've done a a quick walk through into what exactly happened why the Democrats got uh this election so wrong they were going into this election
with a one straight narrow path strategy which was to wi the blue wall States and then everything else will take care of it and that has simply come off the seams I'll explain that right on the other side of this quick [Music] break addition it's the morning after election day and election night in America we're coming to you live from the US Capital Hill where the US Congress will now be shaded completely in red a republican is going to be the the next Resident of the White House the Republicans have taken control of the US
Senate and they are within Striking Distance of taking control of the House of Representatives which means once that happens the Republicans will have control of all three branches of government here in the United States and that is a huge thing uh the last time that happened was in 2016 when uh Trump won all three branches of government he pipped Hillary Clinton but like I said a moment ago today's Victory is bigger than what Trump achieved back back in 2016 it is bigger uh even in terms of Electoral College votes bigger than what
Biden achieved 4 years ago so how did this come about we will get into the integrities we will dive into the numbers like I said Trump is on course to win all seven of the Swing States Trump is winning the popular vote and by a margin he is right now last I checked is at over 71 million votes across uh the United States and kamla Harris is at over 66 million votes no one said that Trump would win the popular vote by this kind of a margin this is way above the plus or minus three margin of error in the polls this is closer to 5% uh of the
entire electorate and therefore this has been a sweeping a sweeping victory for the Republicans and for Donald Trump we will try and break it down for you as to how he won and also take it Forward because he's got a lot of work to do both domestically and internationally what are his priorities going to be we lay out the Trump agenda and the Trump vision for the first uh 100 days or the first uh you know first year at least because he has a lot of work to do both domestically and abroad uh this is how it played out in what has turned out to
be a tremendous night for Trump the Republicans and of course a night of heartbreak for kamla Harris and the Democrats [Applause] America great again oh and Powerful [Applause] mandate frankly this was I believe the greatest political movement of all time there's never been anything like this in this country and maybe Beyond you have some great senators and some great newor senors and it also looks like we'll be keeping control of the House of Representatives we are going to start by all putting America first we have to put
our country first for at least a period of time we have to fix it because together we can truly make America great again for all Americans we made history for a reason tonight you know Trump has been running on this campaign of making America great again for the last 8 years and 70 million plus Americans have bought into that they bought into it in 2016 they bought into it in 2020 and they've boughten into it uh in 2024 but I think frankly what tilted the scales for Trump and this phenomenal the stunning comeback that we're seeing is the
campaign line that he ran for the last few weeks saying Trump will fix it I think that resonated with a lot of Voters people were upset they were angry about the economy about cost of living cost of groceries uh cost of housing had gone up and then of course a lot of Americans were upset about America's role in these two ongoing Wars and the fact that the Biden Harris Administration was no doing nothing to stop these two Wars Trump simply said I know the country is broken I know the world is broken I'm the man to fix it
Trump will fix it and I think a lot of Americans have bought into that message irrespective of whether they are white or African-American Or Hispanic or Asian-American they have voted as Americans first and Trump has and his message of trump will fix it has resonated with Americans irrespective of racial divides or even gender divides which was of course stocked up by the Democrats in a big way uh going into election day let me now bring in our guests first part we will try and analyze how this stunning this stunning
Republican wave how it was Mastered by Trump and his team over the last few weeks and months uh and then of course we will lay out the agenda forward because he I I believe is going to fundamentally re structure the American government the American bureaucracy in ways that we haven't seen since God knows uh FDR back in the 1930s uh Tom Rose is a senior adviser to Mr Donald Trump he was also an adviser to the former vice president Mike Pence pun Aralia former Republican candidate for left governor in Virginia AJ borya is
Deputy National Finance chair of the democratic party Lisa Kurt is Deputy assistant uh uh Secretary of State and of course now she is uh the head of uh the uh the indo-pacific security Center at the center for New American Security Tom Rose uh good morning to you from Washington DC let me start with you I remember interviewing you a couple of weeks ago and you said you were very confident that Trump will win his message was resonating with uh uh with ordinary voters what is your first reading of this wave this Red Wave Trump
is won all seven or at least is on the verge of winning all seven of the Battleground States he's won the popular vote by over five percentage points that is not something that the pollsters saw or the pundits saw or even the news media saw I think it's it's perhaps the most remarkable uh political story certainly in American history this man survived two impeachments 91 indictments 34 phony felony convictions uh two assassination attempts a lost presidential election an FBI raid of his of his private home uh media collusion to
destroy or delegitimize him the opposition in unison calling him the worst conceivable names comparing him to history's most bloodthirsty brutal dictators and he comes out and he wins what could be 315 electoral votes out of the 538 total I think what it's says is that the American people have had enough with the elite institutions and Elite voices that continually assume they know what's best for us and I think the American people rejected that this was a rainbow Victory president Trump won half of the Latino Or Hispanic vote unheard
of George W bush yep in 2004 won 40% and everyone thought that was the high Watermark he won almost 30% of black men this was not a white rage vote this was a multiethnic multi-racial landslide victory for a man who promises to fix America's great problems you know I think that's a fascinating uh Insight tomrose let me get Lisa Curtis in on this uh you were here Lisa a couple of days ago we were speaking about it uh you know I don't think anyone can say that this is is the kind of white lash uh uh verdict which
which uh many said 2016 was uh you know the the the Forgotten America the left behinds was sort of raging Against The Establishment this is I mean like like Tom Rose said he he has won more Hispanic Americans than any other Republican who ran for president uh he's won more of the male African-American vote than any one who ran for for president at least in the modern era from the Republican side uh you know and I was looking at this this place it's called Dearborn in Michigan it has the highest proportion of of Arab Americans
in in America in any City you know who won there Donald Trump what does that say to the Democrats politics of appealing and pandering to to just race and nothing else well I think it shows that uh president-elect Trump was able to connect with the voters um voters you know from all kinds of backgrounds minority voters as you point out he held steady with the women vote there was a lot of speculation you remember just two days ago zaka when we were speaking there was you know a lot of people talking about you know women were
breaking for Kamala well I don't think these things happened in the end I think uh he was able to convince uh voters on uh his policies on the economy on immigration those were two major issues uh for voters and also just that he would uh be able to fight for their interests uh protect their interests and so people basically just felt that uh he was going to be the leader who was going to look out for their own interests look out for the American people he showed himself to be a fighter um he he ran a very hard and and persistent
campaign uh as you mentioned there were two assassination attempts against him I think it was a remarkable moment when you know he had part of his ear shut off what did he do he stood up he pumped his fist um so not not everybody is is going to respond to an assassination attempt that way and I think this showed the kind of leader he is and that he really would fight for the American people and I I think that is what has won him um so handily uh he he has won this handily people didn't expect that I myself I say
uh you know I thought it would be uh a closer race you know I thought the polles were more neck and neck um but I think he has shown that uh he's got a very strong mandate uh it's a very clear vote uh for him and his leadership and I think in the end of the day uh people basically thought he would be the leader to fight harder for their own interest and to protect America and everything it stands for you know I I think for me what was fascinating was um he was able to appeal to Americans You know despite or beyond
their identities whether it is by race or by gender uh you know you look at look at a problem like illegal immigration you could accuse Trump of you know simplifying it and making it uh sound inhumane and so on and so forth But ultimately there is a problem and that problem needs to be fixed fixed who does illegal immigration affect the most it doesn't affect white Americans it affects legal IM immigrants into this country it affects the Hispanics and the African-Americans and the asian-americans disproportionately
compared to how it affects white Americans and he was able to convey this message to those communities that look this is not about immigration this is about violent crime and these are people who are coming to your neighborhoods infesting your neighborhoods making your life difficult and a lot of people have bought into that message you look at you know one of the counties which has the highest proportion of uh Puerto Rican Americans in in in Pennsylvania uh and despite all the the rhetoric and the comedian who made that joke about Puerto
Ricans you know who won that County Donald Trump won that County so pun ALU Alia what does that say I think it's got to a stage where politicians and this is not just here in America it's across the world it's in India uh it's in it's in um other democracies you cannot just be playing identity politics you have to at the end of the day if you are the incumbent run on your record and show why your record is better than your opponents and if you're the anti-incumbent then say what you're going to do better than the incumbent to
make the lives of ordinary people uh better and not just say oh you're African-American therefore you have to vote Democrat how can you dare think of voting for Trump you're Hispanic look at all the stuff that Trump and his supporters are saying about uh Hispanics how can you dare vote for Trump that politics of just spering to a narrow racial identity is not working is not working anymore pun alalia well Victory and Vindication is the headline for president Trump and for the Republicans who have stood by him
since 2016 or time he started but more importantly the message is that the Democratic party or the liberal leftist media and socialist social Elites want to have a view of America according to them and this is a clear message for them look at we as Republicans we went through a process where we elected president Trump to be the next leader of the Republican party and what happened on the Democratic side is she was anointed as soon as they found out that Biden was incapable to lead the country or be the head of the uh leader of the
democratic party and then what she said she had no message she had no message and we as Americans have been suffering for the last four years after they inherited a very successful economy a safe safer world than before and and that rhetoric of imposing on American people that he's a fascist he's a racist didn't sit well with people and now guess what they have lost handily and it's complete sweep so what it says is that identity politics is not here to say and all Arab Americans all Hispanic Americans asian-americans what is one
thing very common in them they're all American they're all impacted and affected by failed policies of the Democratic Party the wokeism has to stop the rule of law has to Prevail weaponizing of the doj has to stop this country has to come together and we have to lead not just only for the American people but for the entire world look at the Bad actors Trump in Europe we have Putin and we have North Korea and Iran we need to find a way to resolve these issues and president Trump was so good in this as he started the Arab Arab the
Abram Accord I think we'll find peace there we'll find a way to get the NATO to be stronger but the NATO Partners have to contri more and at the same time China that's the biggest uh I would say the Gilla in the room that we need to take on and find a way to neutralize that and do business with them and I believe President Trump is the Right leader at the right get to the the forward agenda in just one second I yeah I want to get to a boria for the Democrats I think one of the points that pun alalia made I think the fact that a
the Democrats took too long to figure out that Joe Biden was not in a position uh to run again uh his mental equities was simply not there uh uh you know kamla Harris just had 107 days uh to make the case to the American people that she was the alternative and clearly uh not many Americans have bought into that uh in fact you if you look at the popular vote if you look at the raw data uh she has about 66 million votes Which is less way less than what Biden got Biden got 81 million in the 2020 election so there're about 14 15 million
Americans who've either not turned up or who voted for somebody else but they certainly have not voted for KLA Harris in fact her popular vote is even less than what Hillary Clinton got Hillary Clinton got 73 million I think uh in 2016 so it's about 56 million short of what Hillary Clinton got uh 8 years ago so either the candidate was unpopular and that point that pun made as think

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