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Keith Low
Uh, like trial license.
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Keith Low
If they try it for one month after that, it converts to automatically converts to full license.
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Keith Low
I mean, they kind of thing.
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Stephanie Jones
Yeah, we, we've had varying levels of discussions around this and and what it looks like and is it required and and all that.
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Stephanie Jones
I mean, I I believe yes, it is something that we want to start offering.
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Stephanie Jones
We are getting questions about it.
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Stephanie Jones
I mean, it brings up a lot of other questions.
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Stephanie Jones
Like, who would get it?
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Stephanie Jones
I mean, I don't think we should just give it to anybody.
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Stephanie Jones
So there's a lot of like sales and marketing implications.
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Stephanie Jones
There's questions around if someone has a trial license, can they then and they and then they decide to move forward with it.
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Stephanie Jones
Then can they escalate and and move everything?
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Stephanie Jones
So there's that element, but at its most basic level, then yes, I believe we need, we will be asked, especially for migration purposes and those customers that that will require needing to go out and.
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Stephanie Jones
Try it out before they move forward with it.
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Stephanie Jones
So I guess yes is the answer to your question.
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Keith Low
But uh yeah, I think.
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Keith Low
Uh, OK.
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Keith Low
Uh, I think it's quite common to have a trial license, but the behavior or the expectation of the license I presume is still under discussion and it's not fixed yet.
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Chris DiPierro
We.
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Keith Low
I mean for example like Duraid was telling us it's very common.
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Stephanie Jones
Umm.
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Keith Low
You try it for a month and you convert that into a full license.
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Keith Low
So I think the question came about right now in our licensing.
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Keith Low
It's actually fixed.
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Keith Low
Uh, we will.
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Keith Low
We are talking about the start date and the expiry date, so if the demo license comes in then it will affect how do we calculate that?
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Keith Low
I mean, what is the expectation of that?
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Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
Uh, can't. Can't.
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Chris DiPierro
Can't we just make our lives simpler here though?
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Chris DiPierro
Like is a demo.
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Chris DiPierro
Why is it demo license special right?
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Chris DiPierro
So isn't a demo license effectively from, at least from you're describing anyway, a 30 day license of a 30 day version of one of the other licenses, basically of like the arc of the internal audit license or whatever it is.
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Chris DiPierro
If they become an actual customer, right, they try it for 30 days or whatever.
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Chris DiPierro
Why?
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Chris DiPierro
Why are we doing anything special with that license?
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Chris DiPierro
Why wouldn't we just basically treat it as a renewal?
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Chris DiPierro
So great, they have 30 days and now they're buying it for the next year or whatever, two years, whatever.
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Chris DiPierro
Why wouldn't we just renew that license at that point?
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Chris DiPierro
Why create like a special license type?
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Stephanie Jones
A good question.
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Keith Low
I mean not not exactly license that I mean, if Stephanie agrees to did that, that will make a I mean the way our licensing will be simpler.
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Chris DiPierro
Umm.
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Keith Low
So you have a demo license, or if it converts to a full license.
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Keith Low
So let's say you buy.
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Keith Low
Well, I thought.
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Keith Low
Now I demo for 30 days.
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Chris DiPierro
Umm.
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Keith Low
I converted into a full license so I will prorate 11 months for for me to pay instead of 12 months so that that that will actually have the.
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Chris DiPierro
Umm, I don't know that I agree with that.
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Chris DiPierro
I think I think the term of the license is gonna be dependent very much on what contract people's sign.
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Chris DiPierro
Right.
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Chris DiPierro
Like it might be that they get 30 days and then they sign a contract and they get 12 months from there, right?
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Chris DiPierro
So they might have ultimately be be 13 months, but I'm saying is that the license that the quote unquote thing that we're calling a demo license is really just a regular license with a very short term, right?
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Keith Low
Umm.
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Keith Low
Umm.
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Stephanie Jones
I don't see a problem with that.
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Chris DiPierro
That's basically all it is, and then sure if they convert then they get, you know quote unquote a real license which is just their life, a license with longer term like I don't know. Yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
I mean.
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Stephanie Jones
That seems pretty straightforward and simple, and then the rest of it is just becomes like marketing and sales questions, right?
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Chris DiPierro
Pretty much.
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Stephanie Jones
Like, how do we do?
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Stephanie Jones
Yeah, it's it's not a technical question at that point.
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Chris DiPierro
Yeah, yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
The only reason I would see that not working is if you wanted an actual flag on a license type to call it demo license.
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Stephanie Jones
Umm.
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Chris DiPierro
From a perspective of, I wanna do something different in ARC for the in internal audit or risk management for this user specifically because they're not a paid user right now.
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Chris DiPierro
I mean the things that could think that you might do in that path, where it every time they launched internal audit, they get like a big pop up that says hey, you should buy or something like that.
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Chris DiPierro
I mean maybe that kind of thing, maybe, maybe it makes sense to have a flag, I guess.
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Chris DiPierro
But as far as anything like auto converting, I don't think I would do any of that.
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Chris DiPierro
Like, I don't think we built logic in there.
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Chris DiPierro
If they, if they stop being a demo user and start being a real customer, they their license just gets replaced with the regular license.
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Chris DiPierro
We don't need to do some sort of weird conversion thing on the current license.
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Keith Low
Hmm, OK.
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Stephanie Jones
Chris, would we be able to?
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Stephanie Jones
Umm.
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Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
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Stephanie Jones
I'm not saying yes, we need a flag right now, but would we be able to do something like a flag without requiring a separate demo license type?
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Chris DiPierro
Yeah, it's a good question.
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Chris DiPierro
I mean and and I will say that I'm just throwing this out here without having uh ask anybody else on the team.
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Stephanie Jones
Right.
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Chris DiPierro
But the way the way I would handle the way I would handle something like that is for you could imagine for any license type, maybe you just carry with it some attributes that are always optional.
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Chris DiPierro
But like in the case where we're gonna provide a trial license that we set some sort of tag on it basically that says something like demo.
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Chris DiPierro
But again, my only be applicable to you in the same way that we're not at the licensing service level enforcing privileges or features or whatever.
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Chris DiPierro
We might just deliver to you.
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Chris DiPierro
Hey this either has a license, it's for internal audit by the way.
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Chris DiPierro
It has these flags on it, right?
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Chris DiPierro
And then you get to choose to do something.
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Chris DiPierro
That's how I would handle it.
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Stephanie Jones
Right.
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Stephanie Jones
I don't wanna like OfferUp and say to sales and marketing.
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Chris DiPierro
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
No, no. Let.
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Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
No. Let.
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Stephanie Jones
Ohh, we'll have it be the same license type, but you can have a flag and then not have the ability to do that and then commit to something that we've volunteered to do, yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
Well, yeah, let's not tell sales that at this point.
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Stephanie Jones
OK, OK.
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Chris DiPierro
But but I think you know, Keith from a design perspective there I you know.
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Keith Low
Umm.
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Chris DiPierro
Broadly, it is some is sometimes useful for things like this licenses and elsewise to carry with them a bunch of just tags on on things that might not be specifically defined as having a, you know, an A defined function necessarily within the context of the license service itself.
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Chris DiPierro
That's all we can.
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Chris DiPierro
We can talk about that separately, but I think right now the outcomes should just be that we would expect uh demo license user to just have a regular license.
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Keith Low
Umm.
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Chris DiPierro
That's a short term, but that's all for for the purpose of this conversation, we can always enhance it later.
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Chris DiPierro
We need to so.
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Keith Low
OK, OK.
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Keith Low
I the the other thing is, uh, it's not exactly a question.
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Keith Low
I think we discussed before there will be a start date, end date, grace period and our discussion is applied at the tenant level.
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Keith Low
So I think the because we are not designing only for art, we our design should be applicable across.
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Keith Low
So I think what I suggested is we apply this at license type level.
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Keith Low
So I think in our case.
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Keith Low
Every single license type will be treated as the same.
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Chris DiPierro
Say.
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Keith Low
So.
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Chris DiPierro
What are the implicate?
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Chris DiPierro
Sorry, I guess I'm not understanding the implications of what you're saying.
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Keith Low
OK, let's say this scenario.
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Keith Low
The same customer, the same tenant, they have audit and risk.
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Keith Low
Will be expired it be the same two different our license license type.
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Joshua Haseldine
Did well.
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Joshua Haseldine
I'm sure we had this with.
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Joshua Haseldine
We had this conversation.
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Chris DiPierro
I think we already then we have that discussion earlier, yeah.
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Joshua Haseldine
Yeah.
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Joshua Haseldine
So they will be the same.
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Keith Low
Yes.
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Keith Low
Yeah.
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Joshua Haseldine
So even if a user was to add risk on later, we'd still contract them so that expire on the same instead of having overlapping.
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Keith Low
Yeah.
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Joshua Haseldine
Exactly.
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Chris DiPierro
Right, the the the contracts handling, like the proration essentially of that, if they're like six months in or whatever, but yeah.
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Keith Low
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand that.
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Keith Low
So that that means this is actually at the tenant level.
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Keith Low
OK.
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Keith Low
But but maybe this does not really affect what I'm trying to say is that internally, how we're gonna design that it will be at the license type level, but they will make it all the same?
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Keith Low
Here it doesn't matter.
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Chris DiPierro
I don't know what you mean by when you say at the license type level in that in that sentence.
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Keith Low
The excited is based on license types.
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Chris DiPierro
The expiry is based on the license, not on the license type.
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Keith Low
Starting the license type no.
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Keith Low
No, like license time.
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Chris DiPierro
Net well, OK, what I'm saying is I I feel as if the the expiry should be based on the instance of the license, yeah.
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Keith Low
OK.
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Chris DiPierro
Because I think I I think why you're asking this question is maybe not in the art context.
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Keith Low
Yes.
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Chris DiPierro
I think you're asking this question in.
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Chris DiPierro
Somebody has internal audit and then they go add qual tracks or something, right?
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Keith Low
Yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
Something that in the future supports the licensing service.
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Chris DiPierro
I don't think that you would assume that the expiration date of quality checks would be the same as the as the expiration date of internal audit, because those are more likely to be some separate contracts, right?
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Keith Low
Yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
Because you probably have different people involved, even though it's the same tenant potentially, right?
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Keith Low
Yes, yes.
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Chris DiPierro
So is that kind of what you're asking you're saying, OK?
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Chris DiPierro
Sure. Yeah.
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Keith Low
I mean in in our context, obviously if it's tenant, we sign a contract whether it's risk or audit, it will be the same expiration date.
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Stephanie Jones
OK.
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Keith Low
But if it's another type of license, uh, I mean, another type of product, you will very likely to be a different different contract, different different expiration date.
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Chris DiPierro
Yes.
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Stephanie Jones
That makes sense.
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Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
Yes, I would agree with that.
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Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
Sorry, go ahead 7.
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Stephanie Jones
Yeah, we just right, I agree too, because we confirm that audit and risk would would sync up because those same like they if someone had both audit and risk we would try to sync them up and get them to the same timing.
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Stephanie Jones
But I don't feel like we can be like, yeah, qualtrax also has to have the same date.
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Chris DiPierro
Yeah, I I would agree with that.
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Stephanie Jones
I think that's, you know, I agree.
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Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
So I think what you're saying is it's not really at the when you say that the license type you make it sound like as if each license type has a fixed expiration.
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Chris DiPierro
But I think what you're really saying is at a licensed type per tenant.
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Chris DiPierro
So each license type in a given tenant has a different expiry, right?
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Chris DiPierro
Which is yes, I think that would be a true statement.
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Keith Low
Yeah.
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Keith Low
OK, I the other one is, uh, I think the notification.
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Keith Low
So I think previously we discussed before our internal account measure will be receiving it tenant manager, what about you then do we want to he stopped them Mickey make them uncomfortable so that they contact their admin.
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Chris DiPierro
I thought we had already kind of defined this too.
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Chris DiPierro
I thought we said we were gonna do that.
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Joshua Haseldine
At seven days, wasn't it? Yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
Only if they're in the grace period that right so.
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Keith Low
In a great period. Yeah.
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Keith Low
Integration. Yep.
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Keith Low
Uh.
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Stephanie Jones
8 Yep.
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Keith Low
OK, I'm not going there.
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Keith Low
OK, I think the other question is what is the status of Best Buy?
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Keith Low
I assume they have really signed the contract.
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Chris DiPierro
Yes.
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Chris DiPierro
Yeah, Michael.
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Chris DiPierro
I asked Michael Nohrden that actually, uh, yeah, Tuesday.
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Keith Low
OK.
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Chris DiPierro
And he said yes, they signed the contract, so congratulations to you guys.
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Keith Low
Uh, if that is the case, uh, what is the expected date that they will start onboarding customer?
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Stephanie Jones
They're they're looking at a like a July implementation.
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Keith Low
Hi implementation.
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Keith Low
Well OK.
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Joshua Haseldine
Well, can I ask a follow up question and as to when can we start plugging in to the licensing?
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Joshua Haseldine
Is there a date in which we can start this?
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Joshua Haseldine
Or at least looking come.
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Keith Low
Yeah, I think yesterday you were in in the meeting with Duraid.
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Keith Low
So right now we are at the point of the licensing UI that the simple UI.
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Keith Low
So we continue with Harinder.
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Joshua Haseldine
Yeah.
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Keith Low
So you know it has another another view of this grid view.
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Keith Low
So this morning I got the grid will sample from him our TPO 1000 and Jasmine is trying to keep come up with a mock at least a simple mock before mock up before we go to Harinder and and I have not received that from them yet.
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Keith Low
So hopefully tomorrow morning we can get something out and I hope to go through with you before we go to Harrington.
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Keith Low
I mean, once we fix that, we ask Harinder to do to come up with a proper UI design.
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Keith Low
And I think going in parallel, I'm also asking them to actually come up with a with an estimate.
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Keith Low
Because right now I still don't have the the estimate when we can actually have the the MVP for licensing.
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Chris DiPierro
So I mean that that may all be true, but like what did so SueAnn, you know, put in our sorry tried to pull up the right thing so platform licensing support for arc to be done by the end of July right.
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Chris DiPierro
So that's what she's got in, like, the road maps for our teams at this point.
0:12:47.950 --> 0:12:49.40
Keith Low
Yeah, that is the target.
0:12:48.190 --> 0:12:49.730
Chris DiPierro
So is that yeah.
0:12:49.690 --> 0:12:50.670
Keith Low
That is, that is our target.
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Joshua Haseldine
So OK, so with licensing being done and then we have to plug it in.
0:12:56.330 --> 0:12:56.470
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:12:54.710 --> 0:12:56.490
Chris DiPierro
You'd have to plug it in the admittedly, but.
0:12:55.0 --> 0:12:59.70
Joshua Haseldine
So yeah, so like that that there's still like at least the spread.
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Joshua Haseldine
I mean, no one, Gary.
0:13:0.270 --> 0:13:0.590
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, yeah.
0:13:0.570 --> 0:13:4.170
Joshua Haseldine
I'll do it in the day, but yeah, there's still like a sprints worth of work on top of that.
0:13:4.180 --> 0:13:6.840
Joshua Haseldine
So if those times are correct, then that's mid August.
0:13:10.300 --> 0:13:10.480
Keith Low
Yeah.
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Chris DiPierro
I think that's probably reasonable, right based on on expectations.
0:13:13.780 --> 0:13:14.60
Joshua Haseldine
OK.
0:13:13.570 --> 0:13:20.710
Chris DiPierro
So a little bit later than than Best Buy, I suppose, but I would assume that you could probably onboard them regardless of that, but.
0:13:21.950 --> 0:13:24.560
Stephanie Jones
The only problem is really the business users, right?
0:13:24.570 --> 0:13:32.510
Stephanie Jones
Which I'm not sure I'll have to ask if they purchased the business, if they decided to use business users, but that would be really the only implication, right?
0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:36.790
Stephanie Jones
Because they're already, they're an audit customer, so we don't have that.
0:13:35.620 --> 0:13:39.880
Chris DiPierro
Because you're just giving everybody everything right now without licensing.
0:13:39.890 --> 0:13:41.330
Chris DiPierro
Is that what's going on or?
0:13:41.930 --> 0:13:43.610
Stephanie Jones
That's that's the plan.
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Stephanie Jones
And it makes that plan makes more sense for audit than risk, because if I were a risk department and we couldn't, if I were a risk manager and I'm purchasing idea Gen risk, I would think why am I also getting audit?
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Stephanie Jones
But if I'm an audit department purchasing audit that it's OK that I'm getting risk, it's OK that it's all one thing cause I'm using that element anyway.
0:14:7.720 --> 0:14:10.430
Stephanie Jones
I mean, it's that goes back to that fried egg example, right?
0:14:17.40 --> 0:14:17.200
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:17.710
Stephanie Jones
Audit includes all of risk features at this point, so I'm not really getting anything extra that I would be getting anyway.
0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.510
Stephanie Jones
The only real issue if you will is around business users.
0:14:22.970 --> 0:14:23.200
Chris DiPierro
Right.
0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:25.10
Stephanie Jones
We don't want them having everything, so they won't be able to add business users until August.
0:14:25.20 --> 0:14:25.600
Stephanie Jones
It feels like.
0:14:27.10 --> 0:14:27.300
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:14:27.310 --> 0:14:28.580
Chris DiPierro
Probably because it.
0:14:34.180 --> 0:14:34.640
Stephanie Jones
It's actually.
0:14:38.570 --> 0:14:40.60
Stephanie Jones
I'm not right.
0:14:40.70 --> 0:14:40.420
Stephanie Jones
It's not.
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Chris DiPierro
Sorry and I know we probably discussed this business user essentially kind of a pretty light level user, right, that's kind of, I don't know if this is, I don't know if it's a true statement, but like view only sort of thing or something like that, but maybe not be maybe not quite that but.
0:14:41.660 --> 0:14:47.850
Stephanie Jones
Yeah, it's more like you can only, you know, look at like actions and have access to incidents and things like that.
0:14:47.80 --> 0:14:48.160
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, sure.
0:14:47.860 --> 0:14:48.650
Stephanie Jones
So I'm gonna.
0:14:48.660 --> 0:14:49.600
Stephanie Jones
Yeah, that's it.
0:14:49.950 --> 0:15:16.100
Chris DiPierro
I'm a question I guess I would have from coordination perspective is uh integrating with licensing service is one thing but having your privileges and features or whatever gated based on license types, is that something that's gonna like already just exist in new waiting to at the point that you plug in licensing that it will all exist or is it gonna be that you have to build that out once the licensing service exists.
0:15:18.770 --> 0:15:20.220
Joshua Haseldine
Wow, what a question.
0:15:23.50 --> 0:15:23.350
Chris DiPierro
OK.
0:15:24.570 --> 0:15:24.880
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:15:21.70 --> 0:15:24.960
Joshua Haseldine
My guess is the latter, and that's my worry I am.
0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.280
Chris DiPierro
If that's true, then it might be later than August, right?
0:15:27.290 --> 0:15:27.840
Chris DiPierro
Like that?
0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:28.220
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah.
0:15:27.850 --> 0:15:29.140
Chris DiPierro
That would be my concern there.
0:15:29.290 --> 0:15:43.110
Chris DiPierro
So I guess the question would be and this is not a thing that I'm really supposed to have an answer to right now, Keith, but like, is there anything kind of snapshot wise along the way that we can provide to our that would let them at least do that bit of work essentially?
0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:46.570
Keith Low
I will need to check with the TPO.
0:15:46.770 --> 0:15:47.340
Chris DiPierro
Sure. Yeah.
0:15:46.700 --> 0:15:48.740
Keith Low
I think right now we are at a stage.
0:15:48.750 --> 0:15:50.770
Keith Low
Uh, I'm not able to give the answer.
0:15:51.60 --> 0:15:57.750
Keith Low
I I think I got one more very crucial question, but I think for MVP we it may not affect the MVP.
0:15:57.820 --> 0:15:58.150
Keith Low
OK.
0:15:58.160 --> 0:15:59.30
Keith Low
It's like this.
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Keith Low
For example, we have enterprise license, the enterprise.
0:16:5.30 --> 0:16:12.20
Keith Low
When a person has an enterprise, does he or she still get a audit or risk or I?
0:16:12.30 --> 0:16:16.60
Keith Low
I mean when I assign a person and the price, I can't assign risk and audit.
0:16:16.130 --> 0:16:18.160
Keith Low
Am I right to say that the same with business user?
0:16:20.780 --> 0:16:24.470
Keith Low
Because by right enterprise should cover both business users similarly.
0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:25.420
Keith Low
They also should cover all.
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Chris DiPierro
You're you're asking the question at a can.
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Joshua Haseldine
Sorry.
0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:39.20
Joshua Haseldine
Like.
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Chris DiPierro
Well, so I've well two questions is is an enterprise license really a thing or did we say that when somebody an enterprise, they just get each of the audit and license and a risk license.
0:16:41.810 --> 0:16:50.240
Chris DiPierro
So enterprise is the thing at the level of contract signing, but is it actually a thing at the kind of technical level, do we actually define that as a license type?
0:16:50.410 --> 0:16:50.790
Joshua Haseldine
I mean.
0:16:50.250 --> 0:16:51.50
Chris DiPierro
I can't remember, sorry.
0:16:53.310 --> 0:16:54.920
Joshua Haseldine
There's that question 2, Chris.
0:16:55.260 --> 0:16:56.350
Chris DiPierro
Uh, Keith, maybe.
0:16:58.290 --> 0:16:59.760
Chris DiPierro
All of all of us, honestly, but.
0:17:5.700 --> 0:17:5.840
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:17:10.100 --> 0:17:11.490
Joshua Haseldine
Where it's called enterprise user.
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Keith Low
So I think right now I already told those guys we we, we do have risk, uh essential risk pro or the Essential audit Pro then are we have a a what do you call that and the price User and other business user.
0:17:11.830 --> 0:17:16.550
Joshua Haseldine
And yeah, I benchmark user is board.
0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:30.670
Joshua Haseldine
It's more just a general sysadmin thing, so if they only have audit then I guess they will sit in both audit and risk is just like you know users within there in both sides it's like.
0:17:29.820 --> 0:17:35.450
Keith Low
Now I mean the the question came came arises because if we were to do a grid like like what a direct suggested.
0:17:35.970 --> 0:17:36.280
Joshua Haseldine
Umm.
0:17:35.740 --> 0:17:37.290
Keith Low
So I have this user.
0:17:37.620 --> 0:17:45.850
Keith Low
I click on the enterprise so by right if enterprise covers both risk and audit then that will be actually I'm not able to click the risk and audit anymore.
0:17:47.230 --> 0:17:47.880
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, right.
0:17:47.890 --> 0:17:49.770
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, yeah, I I get why you're asking the question.
0:17:49.780 --> 0:17:53.80
Chris DiPierro
You're asking it from a from a like a license assignment perspective.
0:17:53.330 --> 0:17:53.480
Keith Low
Yes.
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Chris DiPierro
Should we be preventing people from being able to be assigned to license?
0:17:55.710 --> 0:17:56.250
Joshua Haseldine
Alright, OK.
0:17:56.820 --> 0:17:57.0
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:17:56.130 --> 0:18:0.940
Chris DiPierro
That's effectively a duplicate to what they already have, and my answer to that would be no.
0:18:0.950 --> 0:18:3.860
Chris DiPierro
I think our license UI should be absolutely generic.
0:18:3.870 --> 0:18:4.540
Chris DiPierro
It should not.
0:18:5.40 --> 0:18:12.340
Chris DiPierro
Obviously you can't assign the same license to somebody multiple times, but beyond that, I think you should be able to assign whatever licenses you want to to any person.
0:18:12.630 --> 0:18:16.720
Chris DiPierro
Understanding that somebody could get themselves in, if you will, a little bit of trouble.
0:18:17.30 --> 0:18:23.930
Chris DiPierro
Like if they assigned a what we're calling enterprise license here or even just like a Risk Pro license or something like that to somebody.
0:18:24.0 --> 0:18:26.460
Chris DiPierro
And then also assigned a business user license to it.
0:18:26.470 --> 0:18:31.700
Chris DiPierro
You're ending up using up a license that they really shouldn't from that perspective, but it really.
0:18:33.140 --> 0:18:37.190
Chris DiPierro
And this goes into the philosophy of the licensing service itself.
0:18:56.0 --> 0:18:56.180
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:18:37.260 --> 0:18:58.600
Chris DiPierro
Shouldn't really know anything about what a license does basically, so if somebody gets assigned an enterprise license and they also get assigned an audit license or whatever, clearly that's a duplicate from functionality perspective, but I don't think the licensing UI itself should prevent that from happening, because if you started doing that, you'd have to know every other relationship between every type of license that we would eventually have.
0:18:58.610 --> 0:18:59.940
Chris DiPierro
And we just don't want to do that.
0:18:59.990 --> 0:19:12.910
Chris DiPierro
So clearly there need to be some guidance to folks that say, hey, if you're assigning this kind of license, you shouldn't do this like, but that to me is more of a process thing than like a hard limit basically.
0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:16.170
Keith Low
Umm, OK yeah, I think if we decide on this then it will be much simpler.
0:19:16.180 --> 0:19:18.570
Keith Low
I mean there there was a concern if we were to.
0:19:17.910 --> 0:19:19.350
Chris DiPierro
Because otherwise you get into the future.
0:19:22.210 --> 0:19:22.390
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:19:22.990 --> 0:19:23.140
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:19:19.360 --> 0:19:23.410
Chris DiPierro
You know, Stephanie is talked about things like socks licenses and this and that.
0:19:23.420 --> 0:19:23.750
Chris DiPierro
Right.
0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:31.390
Chris DiPierro
And and we don't want to know the relationship between that and every other religions type to say, well, you can assign a Sox license because they already have this, which already covered up function.
0:19:37.590 --> 0:19:37.770
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:37.960
Chris DiPierro
If we get into that game, then we go back to the world of the license service needing to be updated every time there is a new license type.
0:19:37.970 --> 0:19:40.250
Chris DiPierro
And again, I want to be out of that world, right?
0:19:41.110 --> 0:19:41.290
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:19:40.260 --> 0:19:50.640
Chris DiPierro
So yes, clearly there needs to be documentation slash guidance to administrators that says don't do this because you're just using up an extra license that you shouldn't an extra license vision.
0:19:50.830 --> 0:19:54.610
Chris DiPierro
But but we we should not be enforcing it.
0:19:55.350 --> 0:19:56.90
Keith Low
Yeah. OK.
0:20:6.260 --> 0:20:6.450
Chris DiPierro
OK.
0:20:6.500 --> 0:20:7.760
Stephanie Jones
Is that just a hangover?
0:20:7.770 --> 0:20:19.870
Stephanie Jones
Because at one point we oh, it was only one license type per user and that was the only way to give someone both audit and risk was to say we have to have one user type that includes both.
0:20:19.930 --> 0:20:28.570
Stephanie Jones
So do we still need now that we can assign more than one license Type 2 one person?
0:20:28.900 --> 0:20:30.270
Stephanie Jones
Do we need to?
0:20:32.310 --> 0:20:32.490
Chris DiPierro
And.
0:20:39.470 --> 0:20:40.960
Chris DiPierro
Yeah. I'm.
0:20:30.500 --> 0:20:41.20
Stephanie Jones
Do we need to have that enterprise or is enterprise like you said, just in name only and it's more like OK, if you are enterprise, quote unquote, then you're getting business and audit or risk and audit.
0:20:40.970 --> 0:20:41.280
Chris DiPierro
I'm.
0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:44.140
Chris DiPierro
I'm almost gonna push that back to you, and here's here's the reason for that.
0:20:44.150 --> 0:20:56.360
Chris DiPierro
Because if you assume that enterprise will always mean everything, we ever every all functionality we ever put in this product, then I think enterprise should be its own license type because of what we just talked about.
0:20:56.430 --> 0:21:4.880
Chris DiPierro
If you invent a new socks license or whatever else in the future, you don't wanna have to go revisit the licensing screen and now assign everybody that when the feature comes out right.
0:21:5.70 --> 0:21:11.430
Chris DiPierro
If you, they should theoretically just always have that functionality because they are quote unquote enterprise license, right?
0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:25.330
Chris DiPierro
We wanted, by the way, disassociate the word enterprise, you know, call it like ultimate or platinum or whatever, right, like some sort of thing that that means that whatever functionality you ever put in the product, they always get if that's, if that's kind of the meaning.
0:21:25.660 --> 0:21:31.70
Chris DiPierro
Then I think it's its own license type, because then you don't create any work if it doesn't really mean that.
0:21:31.80 --> 0:21:42.500
Chris DiPierro
If Enterprise just truly means risk pro and audit Pro, but doesn't necessarily mean any feature functionality, then I think those would be separate types and you wouldn't create a combined license type for them.
0:21:47.770 --> 0:21:50.80
Stephanie Jones
Yeah, I at this point, enterprise.
0:21:52.460 --> 0:21:52.930
Stephanie Jones
Right.
0:21:53.180 --> 0:21:58.810
Stephanie Jones
I mean, enterprise to me is going to mean you have everything that we offer within the audit and risk blowing which.
0:21:56.990 --> 0:22:0.90
Chris DiPierro
That's kind of what I assume, yeah, for.
0:21:58.900 --> 0:22:2.190
Stephanie Jones
Yeah, which could later also include socks like you said.
0:22:2.220 --> 0:22:4.60
Chris DiPierro
Right it.
0:22:2.200 --> 0:22:4.360
Stephanie Jones
So then it's now it's three things instead of two.
0:22:4.250 --> 0:22:11.550
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, if it if it means if enterprise basically means everything we are ever gonna do in this product, then I would create a license type specifically for it.
0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:12.810
Chris DiPierro
So that would be my.
0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:16.10
Stephanie Jones
So we will have an enterprise.
0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:18.130
Stephanie Jones
So you think we should have an enterprise?
0:22:18.430 --> 0:22:18.870
Chris DiPierro
I do.
0:22:18.650 --> 0:22:21.320
Stephanie Jones
Umm, alright, OK, OK.
0:22:21.390 --> 0:22:23.110
Stephanie Jones
So Keith, does that answer your question?
0:22:24.290 --> 0:22:28.600
Keith Low
Uh, yeah, yeah, I think, uh, my, my main question is actually on assigning.
0:22:28.610 --> 0:22:32.120
Keith Low
So I think since we are not going to have any uh logic to prevent that.
0:22:40.220 --> 0:22:41.150
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, exactly.
0:22:32.130 --> 0:22:41.210
Keith Low
So I think that makes things are much easier because the concern is if we were to understand our logic, then when I have another product that will be another set of.
0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:49.20
Chris DiPierro
But yeah, and and and also just just for clarity, I don't think we're gonna be in a situation a whole lot.
0:22:49.30 --> 0:22:57.100
Chris DiPierro
Like if somebody buys enterprise licenses, as it were, for arc, it's unlikely that they're probably gonna have a separate pool of just audit licenses.
0:22:57.110 --> 0:23:5.40
Chris DiPierro
I guess it's possible, but it see it just from a business sense that seems less like not terribly likely to to happen.
0:23:5.50 --> 0:23:16.570
Chris DiPierro
So and also kind of not spending too much on the exception case, right, but again you know my bigger thing would be the that you know let's we need the service to be a generic as possible.
0:23:16.740 --> 0:23:37.500
Chris DiPierro
So I mean what I would what I would suggest is Support you know in a knowledge base article or whatever should probably address this that says like hey, if you give somebody an enterprise license and you also give them an audit license, look, you're using up one of both even though you didn't need to do that should have probably a KB article on that.
0:23:37.510 --> 0:23:43.370
Chris DiPierro
So to head off the inevitable question of like, why did this deduct from my license count?
0:23:43.620 --> 0:23:46.230
Chris DiPierro
Shouldn't they already have this kind of thing?
0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:50.550
Chris DiPierro
But otherwise, I don't think we should be doing something to you're prevent it.
0:23:51.450 --> 0:23:51.730
Keith Low
Umm.
0:24:0.850 --> 0:24:1.100
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:23:54.30 --> 0:24:2.980
Keith Low
Uh, I think that's all I have for for I mean, what I prepared to ask, I think more urgently is on the UI, Josh.
0:24:2.990 --> 0:24:6.640
Keith Low
So tomorrow I'll get back to you as we go through one round.
0:24:6.830 --> 0:24:8.280
Keith Low
I think always agree.
0:24:8.290 --> 0:24:12.730
Keith Low
Then we we go to Harinder so that she can she come up with the UI F as soon as possible.
0:24:18.300 --> 0:24:18.520
Keith Low
Umm.
0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:18.870
Joshua Haseldine
Are OK, OK, yeah.
0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:20.180
Joshua Haseldine
Uh.
0:24:21.780 --> 0:24:26.650
Joshua Haseldine
Follow up, Keith, do you know where I can find the best technical documentation for licensing?
0:24:26.660 --> 0:24:28.650
Joshua Haseldine
Is that in confluence?
0:24:28.660 --> 0:24:30.90
Joshua Haseldine
Do we have it like written now?
0:24:30.100 --> 0:24:43.200
Joshua Haseldine
Basically, the reason I ask is my developers are gonna come pounding at my door the moment I open this, so I need like I I basically just need some technical documentation for them to go look at before they start before I start barraging questions your way.
0:24:44.570 --> 0:24:46.370
Joshua Haseldine
So the sooner.
0:24:45.690 --> 0:24:47.190
Keith Low
Uh, let me check with the TPOS.
0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:48.800
Keith Low
Umm, I'm not sure about that.
0:24:49.180 --> 0:24:49.670
Joshua Haseldine
Ah, OK.
0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:50.310
Joshua Haseldine
No, that's fine.
0:24:48.810 --> 0:24:50.610
Keith Low
Have they prepare any documentation?
0:24:50.780 --> 0:24:51.510
Joshua Haseldine
That's fine, is it?
0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:51.970
Joshua Haseldine
Is it Jasmine?
0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:53.780
Keith Low
Uh.
0:24:55.890 --> 0:24:56.70
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:24:56.80 --> 0:24:57.240
Keith Low
Actually we are in a transition.
0:24:57.250 --> 0:24:58.320
Keith Low
I mean, I like you.
0:24:58.390 --> 0:24:58.890
Joshua Haseldine
Alright.
0:24:58.330 --> 0:24:59.260
Keith Low
That's why you end up you.
0:25:3.590 --> 0:25:4.170
Joshua Haseldine
OK, cool.
0:24:59.270 --> 0:25:4.860
Keith Low
You see, both Jasmine and Chelsea Chelsea will be taking over from the Jasmine, yeah.
0:25:3.870 --> 0:25:7.140
Chris DiPierro
And now Jasmine is leaving us, unfortunately.
0:25:6.730 --> 0:25:7.461
Joshua Haseldine
I wish I E.
0:25:7.900 --> 0:25:8.80
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:25:7.150 --> 0:25:10.930
Chris DiPierro
But yeah, she's transferring over to huddle, apparently so.
0:25:11.170 --> 0:25:12.320
Keith Low
And she's moving to higher team.
0:25:13.950 --> 0:25:14.420
Joshua Haseldine
Cheek.
0:25:13.940 --> 0:25:16.770
Keith Low
So, but don't worry, is equally experienced.
0:25:16.810 --> 0:25:18.430
Keith Low
So he will be handling 2 victims.
0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:20.950
Joshua Haseldine
Wow, fast.
0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:28.590
Joshua Haseldine
Later, there was one more thing I well, I say that I mean I have on my whiteboard next to me.
0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:30.230
Joshua Haseldine
I have Chris DiPierro dash.
0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.370
Joshua Haseldine
How to navigate and?
0:25:32.430 --> 0:25:33.910
Joshua Haseldine
I don't think that means your personality.
0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:42.970
Joshua Haseldine
I think that means throughout the system and for the life of me I can't work out the reason I wrote that cause it's been on there all week, so I might have another question for you, Chris.
0:25:42.980 --> 0:25:44.530
Joshua Haseldine
But let's go in now.
0:25:43.690 --> 0:25:47.480
Chris DiPierro
OK, uh, I'll let you come back with that one.
0:25:50.580 --> 0:25:52.890
Chris DiPierro
Sorry, was there anything else done?
0:25:51.910 --> 0:25:53.340
Joshua Haseldine
No, that was, yeah.
0:25:53.350 --> 0:25:54.60
Joshua Haseldine
No, go.
0:25:52.940 --> 0:25:56.990
Chris DiPierro
OK, so I wanted to share a thing then.
0:25:57.420 --> 0:26:0.890
Chris DiPierro
So we've been spending under Andrew's guidance.
0:26:0.900 --> 0:26:13.0
Chris DiPierro
We've been spending some time putting together our plans in AHA, so we want to show you what we have and I probably need to figure out how to how to like actually give you access to this.
0:26:13.10 --> 0:26:14.230
Chris DiPierro
But that's a whole separate issue.
0:26:15.100 --> 0:26:19.870
Chris DiPierro
So where I am right now in Yahaya, I'm at the platform level, right?
0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:28.0
Chris DiPierro
So much like you guys have kind of a pillar level and then products underneath that and at that and then I'm in a road map that we've explicitly customly custom created, right.
0:26:33.390 --> 0:26:33.540
Joshua Haseldine
It's.
0:26:29.650 --> 0:26:38.550
Chris DiPierro
So this theoretically is our best laid plans right now of what we're doing over the next year and who is doing what on it.
0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:43.270
Chris DiPierro
There's probably a couple tweaks need to happen, but broadly we're we spent time trying to get this into shape.
0:26:43.830 --> 0:26:44.250
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:26:44.430 --> 0:26:51.640
Chris DiPierro
You know, Stephanie, for your benefit, this has all the roll up objectives that we have at the product level, the OKR and that kind of stuff.
0:26:51.650 --> 0:27:1.460
Chris DiPierro
But then within platform, we built our own objectives and then initiatives within those and then ultimately themes within each of those initiatives, right.
0:27:1.570 --> 0:27:12.110
Chris DiPierro
So like relevant to this conversation, what you should be able to do is come down to in this case, uh, we're launching version one of the integrated cloud solutions.
0:27:12.120 --> 0:27:19.890
Chris DiPierro
That's you in ARC, but enhance the platform services to support our strategic products and then specifically product licensing needs, right.
0:27:19.940 --> 0:27:21.280
Chris DiPierro
And we've got that on the board.
0:27:21.290 --> 0:27:27.860
Chris DiPierro
It's that one in particular split up into 2 themes, but ARC licensing themes in general and initial licensing UI right.
0:27:28.130 --> 0:27:35.740
Chris DiPierro
I really want to start linking dependencies across to other pillars.
0:27:35.750 --> 0:27:41.240
Chris DiPierro
Basically right, David was telling me that you guys had some of this together.
0:27:41.250 --> 0:27:49.260
Chris DiPierro
But admittedly, when I was going and taking a look at some of the boards, I couldn't quite necessarily understand see it in in kind of a top down view.
0:27:49.270 --> 0:28:12.270
Chris DiPierro
So I don't know where where you guys are on that at the moment, but what I would really like to do is for you guys to take whatever release we intend like licensing France to be in and then make it dependent upon our themes over here and then hopefully what we should be able to do is create a new version of this dashboard that is limited to the things that have dependencies across I on each other at that point.
0:28:12.340 --> 0:28:22.550
Chris DiPierro
But I I really want to encourage and and not just art, but like really any of the products or dependent upon our our our services to kind of start there in these dependencies on on, on the board.
0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.780
Chris DiPierro
And so that we can start to to visualize this.
0:28:25.260 --> 0:28:25.430
Joshua Haseldine
OK.
0:28:25.740 --> 0:28:27.550
Chris DiPierro
Is that reasonable? Ask.
0:28:29.190 --> 0:28:29.370
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah.
0:28:32.40 --> 0:28:34.770
Joshua Haseldine
I mean, yeah, it's yeah, it's, you know, it's not.
0:28:34.820 --> 0:28:37.10
Joshua Haseldine
It's not that difficult to add to.
0:28:36.990 --> 0:28:38.250
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, yeah, sure.
0:28:47.380 --> 0:28:48.110
Joshua Haseldine
Are you still laying?
0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:48.280
Chris DiPierro
Do you Josh and and Stephanie, I guess already have access to the platform workspaces like can you see this kind of stuff?
0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:49.640
Joshua Haseldine
Can I'll see if I can log in.
0:28:49.890 --> 0:28:50.670
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, fair enough.
0:28:50.290 --> 0:28:52.510
Stephanie Jones
Check, yeah.
0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:53.360
Chris DiPierro
At that perfectly clear.
0:29:2.720 --> 0:29:4.390
Chris DiPierro
I'll figure out how to give it to you guys, but.
0:29:4.200 --> 0:29:4.420
Joshua Haseldine
So.
0:29:8.740 --> 0:29:11.670
Keith Low
And last few days, when I spoke to David Nakamura.
0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:15.870
Keith Low
So I did link the few things that we discussed.
0:29:17.180 --> 0:29:17.920
Chris DiPierro
Oh, did you? OK.
0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:23.430
Keith Low
I think licensing notification, yeah, I linked to the I think I saw a D2, something something.
0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.280
Keith Low
Something actually is referring to the release tool.
0:29:25.290 --> 0:29:32.380
Keith Low
According to David Nakamura, so I think Josh or Stephanie, if you can take a look at it, whether I link to the correct place or not.
0:29:32.570 --> 0:29:39.70
Keith Low
So I think in future there could be more more teams to to be linked I think then.
0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.540
Chris DiPierro
What did what's at length?
0:29:40.550 --> 0:29:42.40
Chris DiPierro
What did you link to? Right?
0:29:42.50 --> 0:29:44.490
Chris DiPierro
Because I don't see like a dependency.
0:29:44.500 --> 0:29:47.490
Chris DiPierro
If I go to like ARC licensing needs here, right?
0:29:48.850 --> 0:29:49.190
Keith Low
Uh.
0:29:47.500 --> 0:29:52.310
Chris DiPierro
So usually you'd see something like such and such a dependent on right if we.
0:29:54.170 --> 0:29:54.760
Keith Low
Let me check.
0:29:56.50 --> 0:29:56.920
Joshua Haseldine
Uh, yes, I can.
0:29:56.970 --> 0:29:58.30
Joshua Haseldine
I do have access that Chris.
0:29:58.480 --> 0:29:58.770
Chris DiPierro
Awesome.
0:29:59.980 --> 0:30:0.610
Stephanie Jones
And me too.
0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:0.880
Keith Low
Uh licensing MVP release.
0:30:2.660 --> 0:30:4.350
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, it said again, Keith, sorry.
0:30:4.840 --> 0:30:6.470
Keith Low
Uh licensing MVP release.
0:30:8.620 --> 0:30:13.930
Chris DiPierro
You linked our you, you relinked release on our side to release on their side.
0:30:13.990 --> 0:30:15.660
Chris DiPierro
That way you're saying basically.
0:30:14.900 --> 0:30:16.340
Keith Low
Uh, yes, uh yes.
0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:18.840
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, I think it would be good to link.
0:30:19.110 --> 0:30:20.50
Chris DiPierro
I mean, I can't, you know.
0:30:23.810 --> 0:30:32.100
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, because OK, because that's in that release problem with the problem with the heart is I want to always show more things than I can show.
0:30:32.110 --> 0:30:41.910
Chris DiPierro
Basically like there's no real good way to on this kind of word to put also put releases, because it allows you to have like 1 object type in the bar side of things.
0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:48.190
Chris DiPierro
I think it might be good to link to.
0:30:48.260 --> 0:30:49.360
Chris DiPierro
Well, I'm now.
0:30:49.370 --> 0:30:51.250
Chris DiPierro
I'm now I'm trying to.
0:30:51.380 --> 0:30:52.770
Chris DiPierro
I might be setting guessing myself.
0:30:52.780 --> 0:30:58.440
Chris DiPierro
I'm gonna say I think it might be good to link to themes, but maybe we should discuss that first.
0:30:58.450 --> 0:31:6.840
Chris DiPierro
So, but yeah, what you're you're saying is if I go up to, uh, up to this.
0:31:9.200 --> 0:31:14.850
Chris DiPierro
E and it also won't let you navigate sometimes, which is it's own fun thing like I should be able to click on that, but any minute.
0:31:14.890 --> 0:31:16.830
Chris DiPierro
Alright, you're saying you're really you link to that?
0:31:18.620 --> 0:31:20.480
Chris DiPierro
Let's talk about that offline.
0:31:20.460 --> 0:31:23.50
Keith Low
Yeah, I think what I did is is a release link to a release.
0:31:23.60 --> 0:31:24.370
Keith Low
So that's why it's not showing here.
0:31:23.700 --> 0:31:25.310
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
0:31:24.380 --> 0:31:26.690
Keith Low
All these are teams and epics, yeah.
0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:27.550
Chris DiPierro
No, no, that that that makes some sense.
0:31:28.10 --> 0:31:29.400
Chris DiPierro
Umm, alright.
0:31:29.450 --> 0:31:30.510
Chris DiPierro
I wanna think about that but.
0:31:32.650 --> 0:31:35.430
Stephanie Jones
Have something I wanted to go over to in this meeting.
0:31:36.170 --> 0:31:36.320
Chris DiPierro
Sure.
0:31:37.510 --> 0:31:37.860
Stephanie Jones
Umm.
0:31:37.930 --> 0:31:39.120
Stephanie Jones
If we're when we're done with this.
0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:39.970
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:31:39.980 --> 0:31:40.550
Chris DiPierro
No, that's OK.
0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:48.570
Chris DiPierro
I mainly wanted to make sure that you had visibility in into what we have here and then yeah, we'll figure out the correct objects are linked to the correct objects. But.
0:31:49.750 --> 0:31:52.480
Stephanie Jones
OK, OK.
0:32:5.260 --> 0:32:5.400
Chris DiPierro
Yes.
0:31:52.950 --> 0:32:9.220
Stephanie Jones
So one of the things that that we are that I've been working on with David Nakamura and well mostly David is we have these program status review meetings coming up and the one for audit and risk is next Tuesday.
0:32:9.930 --> 0:32:10.140
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:32:10.30 --> 0:32:15.280
Stephanie Jones
And I'm not sure I'm looking at the at The Who all is invited to that?
0:32:15.940 --> 0:32:21.990
Stephanie Jones
Umm, so it's like John Molamphy, Michael Norton Nige.
0:32:22.40 --> 0:32:22.350
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:26.300
Stephanie Jones
David, no interestingly enough, Chris, you're not on here.
0:32:26.750 --> 0:32:26.910
Chris DiPierro
No.
0:32:26.770 --> 0:32:30.480
Stephanie Jones
I would have but Jonn Farr, Joe Pygall.
0:32:31.490 --> 0:32:33.980
Stephanie Jones
So basically, and then Megan O'Brien.
0:32:34.710 --> 0:32:38.480
Stephanie Jones
But but really what it is is a.
0:32:38.530 --> 0:32:44.70
Stephanie Jones
It's kind of the continuation of the business pitch items.
0:32:47.230 --> 0:32:47.550
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:32:44.80 --> 0:32:53.530
Stephanie Jones
So the things that went through the business pitch process, this is the chance where we update what all is happening with those with with those things that have been approved.
0:32:54.180 --> 0:33:7.630
Stephanie Jones
Umm, so my first one is next Tuesday and I wanted to just go through this just the slides cause I there's some things I just wanna make sure that that we are all on the same page with and that that look good.
0:33:6.380 --> 0:33:8.30
Chris DiPierro
Umm it's gonna? Yeah.
0:33:8.20 --> 0:33:10.530
Stephanie Jones
So let me share my screen.
0:33:10.540 --> 0:33:15.70
Stephanie Jones
Chris, have you been invited to some of the other ones or is this were you aware that this was happening?
0:33:15.990 --> 0:33:26.470
Chris DiPierro
I was vaguely aware that you have one coming up because Dave's talking to talk to me about it in the past, but I don't think I'm a been invited to most.
0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:26.620
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:33:26.510 --> 0:33:32.400
Chris DiPierro
There would be other stuff I do know that you know for platform business reviews.
0:33:32.410 --> 0:33:36.200
Chris DiPierro
My goal is to be able to prevent it from AHA and not have to do this with slides.
0:33:36.40 --> 0:33:36.270
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:33:39.730 --> 0:33:40.50
Stephanie Jones
Right.
0:33:36.210 --> 0:33:41.530
Chris DiPierro
Basically, so and entire spending a bunch of time trying to get that into shape, but yeah.
0:33:41.970 --> 0:33:42.420
Stephanie Jones
Right.
0:33:42.510 --> 0:33:45.440
Stephanie Jones
Yeah, I'm wondering if you have your own program review for platform.
0:33:45.450 --> 0:33:46.430
Stephanie Jones
I'm assuming that you do.
0:33:45.950 --> 0:33:49.810
Chris DiPierro
It do, but I think it's not until June sometime, but yeah.
0:33:49.740 --> 0:33:50.590
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:51.30
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:33:51.40 --> 0:34:1.70
Stephanie Jones
Our first one, it was supposed to be last week, but then Kristyn Plante, she is the, you know, the product manager for Audit analytics and she was out of town.
0:34:1.520 --> 0:34:1.690
Chris DiPierro
Yep.
0:34:1.80 --> 0:34:2.470
Stephanie Jones
And then I was gone that day.
0:34:2.480 --> 0:34:9.550
Stephanie Jones
So it it got moved to next Tuesday, but for for audit and risk there are three things that we have to go through.
0:34:9.640 --> 0:34:17.10
Stephanie Jones
One is audit analytics, one is audit and risk next Gen and then one is ideagen analytics.
0:34:17.340 --> 0:34:17.500
Chris DiPierro
Yep.
0:34:17.80 --> 0:34:22.180
Stephanie Jones
So the audit analytics stuff and Kristyn's already put together and and that's fine.
0:34:22.190 --> 0:34:24.840
Stephanie Jones
And this format came from Andrew Buglass.
0:34:24.150 --> 0:34:25.210
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, yeah.
0:34:25.110 --> 0:34:31.530
Stephanie Jones
OK, so for the audit and risk management, one, I wanted to just again kind of go through this with this team.
0:34:31.540 --> 0:34:39.900
Stephanie Jones
What I'm saying so OK, so basically we're developing and marketing IDEAGEN internal audit and risk management as the destination software.
0:34:39.910 --> 0:34:42.720
Stephanie Jones
It is one of our strategic process processes.
0:34:50.780 --> 0:34:50.960
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:34:44.540 --> 0:34:58.310
Stephanie Jones
I included the the initiatives that are in this fiscal year, so that's why kind of releases on the roadmap beyond custom notifications are not included.
0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:1.470
Stephanie Jones
But I'll confirm that that's what I need to do.
0:35:1.480 --> 0:35:11.430
Stephanie Jones
So for the first initiative, so the initiatives are are I've included them as they relate to those boxes on my roadmap.
0:35:11.490 --> 0:35:15.360
Stephanie Jones
So the first box, if you will is this items DE scoped from R1.
0:35:15.370 --> 0:35:32.680
Stephanie Jones
So the items that were originally part of the initial release, our go to market date is planned July 2024, I put Team Enigma and platform services as the teams and it's really the external release of Descoped item and we're on track for July release, OK.
0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:36.540
Chris DiPierro
Well.
0:35:32.690 --> 0:35:39.390
Stephanie Jones
So stop me if you want me to change any of this, because this is once you know, once this is out there that gets a little more kind of crazy at that point.
0:35:39.660 --> 0:35:40.210
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:35:40.220 --> 0:35:40.770
Chris DiPierro
So I mean.
0:35:42.930 --> 0:35:49.940
Chris DiPierro
And and and you know, I guess This is why I was suggesting that this is the kind of stuff that kind of would maybe wanna present from.
0:35:49.950 --> 0:35:50.310
Chris DiPierro
Aha.
0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:50.560
Chris DiPierro
Right.
0:35:51.590 --> 0:35:53.200
Stephanie Jones
There's. Yep.
0:35:50.570 --> 0:36:0.100
Chris DiPierro
Like because you should have an objective right in in ARC and then initiatives under that you should be able to show progress through it like that that I mean I realized that the ideal state right, but but yeah, I mean otherwise it's makes sense.
0:35:58.730 --> 0:36:0.800
Stephanie Jones
Yeah, and that's coming later.
0:36:0.810 --> 0:36:2.280
Stephanie Jones
That's what this is supposed to be.
0:36:3.260 --> 0:36:3.490
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:36:7.580 --> 0:36:7.810
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:36:2.290 --> 0:36:8.990
Stephanie Jones
Later but but these tie exactly to the initiatives that I have in AHA.
0:36:10.410 --> 0:36:10.590
Chris DiPierro
OK.
0:36:10.580 --> 0:36:11.290
Stephanie Jones
So.
0:36:11.380 --> 0:36:16.630
Stephanie Jones
So just so you know that these are I'm trying to keep Spike consistent as possible.
0:36:17.100 --> 0:36:24.700
Stephanie Jones
My next AHA initiative because when there are initiatives in AHA then like you said, then you have the themes and the releases and we can show all that.
0:36:25.580 --> 0:36:25.840
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:36:25.180 --> 0:36:33.950
Stephanie Jones
Umm, so my next initiative in AHA and on here is the I did just have like advanced audit but then I needed.
0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:40.400
Stephanie Jones
I was told I needed to kind of put a little bit more around it, so I'm calling it audit, planning, custom fields and licensing.
0:36:42.30 --> 0:36:42.280
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:36:41.370 --> 0:36:44.910
Stephanie Jones
Umm, so prioritized audit features and also ability.
0:36:45.140 --> 0:36:50.350
Stephanie Jones
So in her original thing, we said all of this, they were all lumped together.
0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:54.150
Stephanie Jones
And on my road map, I say that they're December 2024.
0:36:54.240 --> 0:37:2.490
Stephanie Jones
Now, as we've said, licensing will come a lot earlier, but the idea is that all of these will be finished by December 2024.
0:37:3.300 --> 0:37:3.590
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:37:22.80 --> 0:37:22.280
Chris DiPierro
Sure.
0:37:3.330 --> 0:37:22.920
Stephanie Jones
Umm, the and then again team and Nigma platform services and then this will allow 30% of Pentana audit customers, 35% of MK to upgrade and on track any issues with how I've I've put this now if I get questions specifically about licensing I'm gonna say that licensing is coming earlier more like August.
0:37:23.730 --> 0:37:24.0
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:37:28.740 --> 0:37:29.120
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:37:24.10 --> 0:37:31.600
Chris DiPierro
I guess when you're asking if there's any questions, I have questions that are not platform related, but but I guess what what questions are are you are you looking for here.
0:37:31.610 --> 0:37:33.890
Chris DiPierro
I mean, I think it's fine what you're saying about licensing that, sure.
0:37:32.80 --> 0:37:34.140
Stephanie Jones
I mean just are you OK?
0:37:34.180 --> 0:37:37.90
Stephanie Jones
Is everyone on this call OK with me saying this?
0:37:37.100 --> 0:37:42.220
Stephanie Jones
I mean, Josh, you two, I don't think none of any of this is like new to you, but if you have any issues with it?
0:37:40.470 --> 0:37:45.780
Joshua Haseldine
I KPI is KPI S and coming out in December is semi new.
0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:47.160
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:37:45.980 --> 0:37:48.870
Joshua Haseldine
I'm but yeah.
0:37:49.40 --> 0:37:51.560
Joshua Haseldine
No, I I don't really have anything.
0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:52.620
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:37:57.380 --> 0:37:57.540
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:37:52.450 --> 0:38:6.900
Chris DiPierro
I my the challenge I would give to you just you know from an advice perspective is how do you know that 30% of pentana audit and 35% of Pentana audit MK customers are able to upgrade based on those features like like where where does that number come from?
0:38:18.530 --> 0:38:18.780
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:38:7.770 --> 0:38:29.280
Stephanie Jones
That is, those are numbers that came from analysis done last year around modeling of how many customer looking at the feature set for Pentana audit and pentana risk prioritized into these areas of what we're hearing from our customers of what the most used.
0:38:29.290 --> 0:38:35.460
Stephanie Jones
I mean, we don't have unfortunately the the gain sight to show us this.
0:38:45.750 --> 0:38:46.130
Chris DiPierro
Right.
0:38:46.140 --> 0:38:46.470
Chris DiPierro
Sure, yeah.
0:38:35.470 --> 0:38:51.780
Stephanie Jones
So a lot of this has to be estimations, but that's our estimate of of what will be available and and it's not that 30% will move at that point, it's that the ability of 30% of our customers cause customers care about different things.
0:38:52.970 --> 0:38:57.70
Stephanie Jones
So yeah, it's it's all estimates, unfortunately, yeah.
0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:58.770
Chris DiPierro
Umm you you think you have enough functionality to accommodate 30% of customers at 30 to 35 respectively.
0:38:59.780 --> 0:39:0.260
Stephanie Jones
That's right.
0:38:59.80 --> 0:39:0.990
Chris DiPierro
So wouldn't the follow up question though then?
0:39:1.0 --> 0:39:3.410
Chris DiPierro
And if I was John, wouldn't the follow question the OK?
0:39:3.420 --> 0:39:7.800
Chris DiPierro
And then if that's true, how many of those will have moved, right, right.
0:39:7.420 --> 0:39:8.90
Stephanie Jones
Yep.
0:39:8.140 --> 0:39:10.290
Stephanie Jones
So OK, yes, that is a great question.
0:39:13.490 --> 0:39:14.420
Chris DiPierro
On that, yeah, yeah.
0:39:10.300 --> 0:39:23.150
Stephanie Jones
So there's a whole other financial modeling that's been done because this is really opens up the possibility then at that point we're giving in the estimation modeling that has been done.
0:39:23.380 --> 0:39:27.40
Stephanie Jones
We're giving these 30% three years to actually move.
0:39:30.580 --> 0:39:30.750
Chris DiPierro
OK.
0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:42.670
Stephanie Jones
So basically saying, OK, 30% of Pentana audit customers, let's say that's, you know, 100 customers, we estimate that it'll take three years for all 100 of those customers to move SO30 a year.
0:39:44.500 --> 0:39:44.650
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:39:53.60 --> 0:39:53.600
Stephanie Jones
Just course.
0:39:46.310 --> 0:39:56.640
Chris DiPierro
And I'm not trying to make your life difficult, but if you know to to play the the John Devil's advocate, I would say, boy, that's a really long time.
0:39:57.430 --> 0:39:57.610
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:39:56.650 --> 0:39:58.620
Chris DiPierro
I all I would say in an Irish accent.
0:39:59.380 --> 0:40:0.120
Chris DiPierro
Why do we want?
0:40:0.130 --> 0:40:3.360
Chris DiPierro
Why do we wanna be supporting Pentana audit for the next three years?
0:40:3.370 --> 0:40:4.880
Chris DiPierro
Why don't we only support it for two?
0:40:6.170 --> 0:40:6.390
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:40:4.890 --> 0:40:8.290
Chris DiPierro
What encouragement can we give them to move over faster?
0:40:8.920 --> 0:40:9.570
Stephanie Jones
Right.
0:40:9.660 --> 0:40:18.810
Stephanie Jones
No, that's an honestly my reply to that would be, are we able to move cause to me 30 actually sounds like a lot to move a year.
0:40:18.990 --> 0:40:19.250
Chris DiPierro
Sure.
0:40:19.100 --> 0:40:23.250
Stephanie Jones
I I don't want it to be higher because I'm afraid that that feels like a lot.
0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:30.300
Stephanie Jones
So I think three years is really reasonable to sunset a product as big as our products.
0:40:33.370 --> 0:40:33.590
Chris DiPierro
OK.
0:40:34.460 --> 0:40:34.640
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:40:36.0 --> 0:40:36.850
Stephanie Jones
Umm, OK.
0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:42.170
Stephanie Jones
And then March 2025 for the custom notifications retention questionnaires.
0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:48.780
Stephanie Jones
Josh one thing I will say is these dates they came from, I don't know if I have it pulled up.
0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:50.60
Stephanie Jones
I don't have a pulled up.
0:40:51.720 --> 0:40:52.70
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:40:55.130 --> 0:40:55.360
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:40:51.860 --> 0:40:57.980
Joshua Haseldine
No, I think I think our number is doing the dates cause you asked me about the whether an actual month or quarter is fine.
0:40:59.30 --> 0:40:59.290
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:40:59.310 --> 0:41:1.260
Joshua Haseldine
And I I agree with Roshan.
0:41:7.580 --> 0:41:7.910
Stephanie Jones
Right.
0:41:1.270 --> 0:41:9.820
Joshua Haseldine
I I yeah, my goldfish memory is probably like you are probably right with the KPI's but I I don't recall as agreeing as December.
0:41:12.110 --> 0:41:13.850
Stephanie Jones
So these are, yeah.
0:41:15.610 --> 0:41:15.850
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:41:9.910 --> 0:41:17.410
Joshua Haseldine
But then yeah, I mean, the plan of branching out teams is we're probably be fine, so.
0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:22.760
Chris DiPierro
Sure.
0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:22.910
Joshua Haseldine
So.
0:41:25.190 --> 0:41:25.350
Joshua Haseldine
Yes.
0:41:18.240 --> 0:41:28.400
Stephanie Jones
So these dates were already presented in the business pitch with you know like here the they're coming from here is where they're coming from.
0:41:28.700 --> 0:41:28.920
Joshua Haseldine
OK.
0:41:28.460 --> 0:41:30.890
Stephanie Jones
So this is kind of the the backup for it.
0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:34.60
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:41:30.900 --> 0:41:35.30
Stephanie Jones
But yeah, I mean, ah, it gets it gets tricky, right?
0:41:35.40 --> 0:41:35.930
Stephanie Jones
Because we do.
0:41:36.850 --> 0:41:38.250
Chris DiPierro
So so I get.
0:41:35.980 --> 0:41:38.720
Stephanie Jones
Yeah, there's a lot of future stuff.
0:41:39.180 --> 0:41:44.360
Chris DiPierro
I guess at a platform perspective, what you're saying is that you're done with us once licensing is done, right?
0:41:44.370 --> 0:41:48.630
Chris DiPierro
Like, that's what that, that that's kind of what that is saying pretty much.
0:41:49.190 --> 0:41:54.360
Stephanie Jones
Well, right, I mean, I'm not sure how much that's a good question.
0:41:54.410 --> 0:42:0.490
Stephanie Jones
Do KPI SKRISI don't know the what will be needed from platform?
0:42:2.10 --> 0:42:4.30
Chris DiPierro
So like.
0:42:6.390 --> 0:42:6.880
Chris DiPierro
Right.
0:42:0.500 --> 0:42:8.360
Stephanie Jones
Maybe I just put platform services on the whole thing because here I think custom notifications there will be in implications I would imagine.
0:42:7.310 --> 0:42:23.440
Chris DiPierro
And and and beyond custom notifications and right stuff like that we have on on on our Rd maps right are two fold, 11 is migrating ARC to whatever our new SSO platform ends up being right.
0:42:23.450 --> 0:42:33.440
Chris DiPierro
So as we kind of already alluded to, we are in the process of building a new identity service, right?
0:42:33.450 --> 0:42:35.850
Chris DiPierro
That's either gonna be based on author or cognito or whatever.
0:42:37.30 --> 0:42:41.110
Chris DiPierro
So what we're gonna need to do is migrate you guys to that right.
0:42:41.630 --> 0:42:42.90
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:42:42.590 --> 0:42:58.700
Chris DiPierro
And then beyond that, I have, you know, this kind of, if emitted by nebulous support arcs, file storage needs where you know, Josh, you've talked about some stuff that you wanted in the past, this more kind of a wish list stuff of like multiple uploads and things like that, right, so.
0:43:1.670 --> 0:43:8.250
Chris DiPierro
We have those on ours I guess, but I don't see any of that really reflected in, in near road map here necessarily, so.
0:43:10.330 --> 0:43:12.200
Chris DiPierro
Might be good to coordinate those.
0:43:12.210 --> 0:43:14.230
Chris DiPierro
I guess it's really like I guess I'm saying so.
0:43:16.730 --> 0:43:19.260
Stephanie Jones
You think I should put platform services under here?
0:43:23.650 --> 0:43:23.870
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:43:19.330 --> 0:43:27.620
Stephanie Jones
I mean, obviously these are not defined in scoped and everything yet, but I don't want that implication implication to be that we don't need you guys after this.
0:43:27.630 --> 0:43:28.890
Stephanie Jones
So maybe I should put them on here.
0:43:31.610 --> 0:43:32.90
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, I don't.
0:43:32.100 --> 0:43:34.330
Chris DiPierro
I don't think it would be the worst thing in the world.
0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:38.540
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:43:38.180 --> 0:43:40.570
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah, like you can, you can easily address it when asked.
0:43:40.580 --> 0:43:45.700
Joshua Haseldine
Like if if they do indeed ask and if not then you have it on record that you need platform services so.
0:43:44.290 --> 0:43:46.270
Stephanie Jones
Yeah, right.
0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:46.660
Stephanie Jones
Right.
0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:48.950
Stephanie Jones
OK. OK.
0:43:49.510 --> 0:43:50.340
Stephanie Jones
Umm.
0:43:51.90 --> 0:43:54.20
Stephanie Jones
And again, this is really OK.
0:43:54.90 --> 0:43:55.530
Stephanie Jones
Sorry, I'm trying to get to.
0:43:58.650 --> 0:44:4.10
Stephanie Jones
Of this crazy thing, I want to get to this.
0:44:4.80 --> 0:44:8.730
Stephanie Jones
OK, So what I'm showing is the.
0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:14.900
Stephanie Jones
I'm only displaying on here through this bit.
0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:17.700
Chris DiPierro
Uh.
0:44:14.980 --> 0:44:20.740
Stephanie Jones
I'm not including these last boxes because their next financial year, so I'm not even including them in here.
0:44:21.470 --> 0:44:21.700
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:44:22.740 --> 0:44:24.40
Stephanie Jones
OK, let me go back.
0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.210
Stephanie Jones
To the next slide.
0:44:29.220 --> 0:44:29.540
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:44:31.90 --> 0:44:31.390
Stephanie Jones
Umm.
0:44:31.490 --> 0:44:31.860
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:44:31.870 --> 0:44:39.190
Stephanie Jones
So then each of those initiatives I took out and broke them into their own screenshot here or into their own slide here.
0:44:39.240 --> 0:44:52.190
Stephanie Jones
So for the items to scoped from R1, that initiative and Josh, I think you had said yesterday that internal release for that is June 15th, is that right?
0:44:52.980 --> 0:44:54.740
Joshua Haseldine
Uh, yes, but not 2004.
0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:56.90
Stephanie Jones
Oh.
0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:57.670
Stephanie Jones
Ohh jeez.
0:44:57.720 --> 0:44:58.450
Stephanie Jones
Ohh my gosh.
0:44:58.460 --> 0:44:58.990
Stephanie Jones
Typo.
0:44:59.40 --> 0:44:59.330
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:44:59.340 --> 0:44:59.790
Stephanie Jones
Thank you.
0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:0.250
Stephanie Jones
Good catch.
0:45:0.260 --> 0:45:0.580
Stephanie Jones
Good catch.
0:45:0.700 --> 0:45:1.130
Joshua Haseldine
Well.
0:45:3.30 --> 0:45:4.380
Stephanie Jones
It's been a hey, it's been a while.
0:45:2.880 --> 0:45:6.120
Joshua Haseldine
Your is this the in?
0:45:6.130 --> 0:45:11.590
Joshua Haseldine
No, the internal release for the descoped items is is not June 15th.
0:45:13.270 --> 0:45:13.810
Stephanie Jones
When is that?
0:45:14.250 --> 0:45:17.820
Joshua Haseldine
While not it's July 3rd is our code freeze.
0:45:19.60 --> 0:45:21.600
Stephanie Jones
OK, so July 3rd is the code freeze there.
0:45:24.540 --> 0:45:24.840
Stephanie Jones
And then.
0:45:30.180 --> 0:45:30.460
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:45:21.950 --> 0:45:30.610
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah, July 1st, the code freeze and then it goes into testing and then external release and vary should be two weeks after and.
0:45:33.390 --> 0:45:33.690
Joshua Haseldine
So.
0:45:34.30 --> 0:45:37.540
Stephanie Jones
And and did you have a meeting to talk about the testing?
0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:41.810
Joshua Haseldine
Uh, that's next week is Monday.
0:45:42.830 --> 0:45:43.520
Stephanie Jones
Monday. OK.
0:45:43.550 --> 0:45:46.640
Joshua Haseldine
Mondays, I mean, so I do you need this earlier?
0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:51.890
Stephanie Jones
This meeting is on Tuesday, so I can.
0:45:51.330 --> 0:45:51.940
Joshua Haseldine
Alright, let.
0:45:51.930 --> 0:45:52.200
Stephanie Jones
I don't.
0:45:53.390 --> 0:45:53.910
Stephanie Jones
Yeah, go ahead.
0:45:53.270 --> 0:46:2.60
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah, let's let I'll see what will come with this and basically give you a rough estimate as to when we can actually get the fun date and how long the testing is.
0:46:2.880 --> 0:46:3.90
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:46:2.530 --> 0:46:7.930
Joshua Haseldine
But my yeah, I mean, I've had prior confidence and testings.
0:46:8.320 --> 0:46:11.250
Joshua Haseldine
Debatable, but I I think we we'll get it out by the end of July.
0:46:11.260 --> 0:46:11.940
Joshua Haseldine
I'm fairly certain.
0:46:12.670 --> 0:46:12.860
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:46:14.570 --> 0:46:17.430
Stephanie Jones
OK, OK.
0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:24.670
Stephanie Jones
And then as far as key issues and risks, I just put the risk of unknowns related to first release of ongoing releases.
0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:28.650
Stephanie Jones
That's a lot of the word release, but basically wanted to say that we had our initial release.
0:46:28.780 --> 0:46:35.330
Stephanie Jones
Now we're starting this this, you know, pattern of having ongoing releases.
0:46:37.380 --> 0:46:37.580
Joshua Haseldine
Yep.
0:46:35.340 --> 0:46:37.950
Stephanie Jones
And this is the first time we're doing those doing that.
0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:39.600
Stephanie Jones
So there's a risk of that.
0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:45.360
Stephanie Jones
And there's medium chance and I put a high impact.
0:46:45.370 --> 0:46:47.910
Stephanie Jones
Like if they if they're the impact.
0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:51.180
Stephanie Jones
If I guess I'm not really saying what the risk is, but.
0:46:53.490 --> 0:46:56.860
Stephanie Jones
You know, maybe a risk of delays, you know.
0:46:58.160 --> 0:46:58.750
Chris DiPierro
Isn't it?
0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:0.990
Chris DiPierro
I mean, isn't your?
0:47:13.790 --> 0:47:14.40
Joshua Haseldine
Umm.
0:47:1.0 --> 0:47:16.10
Chris DiPierro
Well, isn't the risk really in that case, is there might be issues in the first like bug fixes essentially in the first release that are going to take the teams time to address to taking them away from the from.
0:47:16.60 --> 0:47:17.820
Chris DiPierro
This isn't that kind of what you're saying.
0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:22.420
Chris DiPierro
OK.
0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:29.890
Joshua Haseldine
No, because I think we addressed all the bug fixes in the 1.01 and because we've worked on monthly releases and this is effectively by the time this gets to the customer, we're on 1.3.
0:47:30.380 --> 0:47:30.600
Chris DiPierro
So.
0:47:31.250 --> 0:47:39.210
Joshua Haseldine
I think the risk really is that the fact that we're having to feature, we're probably gonna have to feature flag a few items because they're not quite ready for customer release.
0:47:40.230 --> 0:47:42.450
Joshua Haseldine
I'm and thus having.
0:47:44.10 --> 0:47:47.40
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah, it's basically just trying to work out on how we've each flagged this.
0:47:47.50 --> 0:47:56.250
Joshua Haseldine
And then if we have to create work arounds umm for items because they're not quite ready, that's the risk really.
0:47:56.310 --> 0:47:56.800
Joshua Haseldine
But that but.
0:47:58.780 --> 0:47:59.340
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah.
0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:1.960
Joshua Haseldine
So it's a time delay more than anything, but.
0:48:8.730 --> 0:48:8.910
Stephanie Jones
And.
0:48:11.110 --> 0:48:11.580
Stephanie Jones
There's really.
0:48:11.10 --> 0:48:12.240
Joshua Haseldine
Ohh how how do we fix that?
0:48:12.250 --> 0:48:14.730
Joshua Haseldine
Oh oh.
0:48:13.310 --> 0:48:16.310
Stephanie Jones
Yeah, I'm trying to think there's what the mitigation is.
0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:20.740
Stephanie Jones
I mean the mitigation is we just have to like there really isn't no mitigation.
0:48:19.590 --> 0:48:21.230
Joshua Haseldine
We have to grin and bear it, yeah.
0:48:20.750 --> 0:48:22.350
Stephanie Jones
We have to see what happens, yeah.
0:48:22.40 --> 0:48:22.630
Chris DiPierro
But what?
0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:24.90
Chris DiPierro
What risk are you really trying to address?
0:48:24.100 --> 0:48:28.510
Chris DiPierro
From what Josh just said, it's like you might some of these features might not be ready, right?
0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:29.470
Chris DiPierro
Like, that's the risk.
0:48:33.90 --> 0:48:33.290
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah.
0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:34.10
Chris DiPierro
Essentially, the mitigation is feature flag and then right and then create.
0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:43.240
Chris DiPierro
I assume a fairly short term release on after that to get have them in the stable state for everybody, yeah.
0:48:43.510 --> 0:48:48.90
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah, and I dropped that likelihood and down from a medium to allow, if I'm honest.
0:48:47.980 --> 0:48:48.460
Chris DiPierro
Sure, sure.
0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:49.440
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:48:48.100 --> 0:48:50.740
Joshua Haseldine
Stephanie, it's like I'm.
0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:54.560
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:48:50.810 --> 0:48:55.620
Joshua Haseldine
I I've said it before, I'm more than confident we'll meet that July 3rd date and it's.
0:48:58.140 --> 0:48:59.470
Joshua Haseldine
But yeah, the impact is high.
0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:0.30
Joshua Haseldine
It's just low.
0:48:58.750 --> 0:49:0.220
Stephanie Jones
And I guess that would be something.
0:49:0.950 --> 0:49:1.280
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:49:1.290 --> 0:49:3.390
Stephanie Jones
Well, I was wondering is it high, I mean if?
0:49:2.950 --> 0:49:3.580
Joshua Haseldine
It will.
0:49:5.930 --> 0:49:6.930
Stephanie Jones
It just puts everything.
0:49:3.590 --> 0:49:11.620
Joshua Haseldine
It will be high because realistically if we launch without notifications then like it's it puts a lot of things at risk, but it's very unlikely to happen.
0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:13.740
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:49:18.610 --> 0:49:19.460
Stephanie Jones
Any other risk?
0:49:24.210 --> 0:49:25.260
Stephanie Jones
If we don't think of any.
0:49:23.660 --> 0:49:25.350
Joshua Haseldine
Uh, not like I think of.
0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:29.930
Joshua Haseldine
I have also just remembered what I put Chris DiPierro how to navigate on my board.
0:49:30.860 --> 0:49:31.100
Chris DiPierro
OK.
0:49:30.650 --> 0:49:32.830
Joshua Haseldine
Umm, so that's a good one.
0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:34.370
Joshua Haseldine
So I'll come back to that after we finished it.
0:49:35.50 --> 0:49:35.920
Stephanie Jones
I'm glad I could.
0:49:35.930 --> 0:49:37.410
Stephanie Jones
I could spark that for you.
0:49:38.670 --> 0:49:39.100
Stephanie Jones
I'm.
0:49:39.710 --> 0:49:44.440
Stephanie Jones
I'm gonna find out from David what we need to have in this, like, recent progress and key planned cause.
0:49:44.450 --> 0:49:47.430
Stephanie Jones
It's like last period since when this is the first one, we're doing it.
0:49:47.580 --> 0:49:47.930
Chris DiPierro
Let.
0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:48.570
Stephanie Jones
So I don't know what also include.
0:49:47.940 --> 0:49:49.780
Chris DiPierro
Let's ohh yeah, I get it.
0:49:49.790 --> 0:49:50.130
Chris DiPierro
You're.
0:49:50.140 --> 0:49:53.300
Chris DiPierro
I can say last period since you did this, since you presented this before, but you haven't.
0:49:54.90 --> 0:49:54.560
Joshua Haseldine
I.
0:49:55.550 --> 0:49:55.810
Stephanie Jones
No.
0:49:53.310 --> 0:49:56.530
Chris DiPierro
You haven't done one of these before because because we could.
0:49:56.620 --> 0:49:57.30
Chris DiPierro
OK.
0:49:57.40 --> 0:49:59.960
Chris DiPierro
I guess I'm so raised by that, but but aren't.
0:49:59.940 --> 0:50:1.590
Stephanie Jones
The last thing was the business pitch.
0:50:2.570 --> 0:50:2.730
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:50:2.390 --> 0:50:3.760
Joshua Haseldine
If you well yes.
0:50:3.770 --> 0:50:8.130
Joshua Haseldine
So if you have, if it this is your first one since then, so it's everything since first release.
0:50:7.940 --> 0:50:8.780
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, I suppose, yeah.
0:50:8.590 --> 0:50:8.900
Stephanie Jones
Right.
0:50:8.290 --> 0:50:9.870
Joshua Haseldine
So this.
0:50:9.920 --> 0:50:11.10
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah, since it came out the door.
0:50:12.540 --> 0:50:12.740
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:50:13.810 --> 0:50:17.680
Stephanie Jones
OK, which I OK, which I guess then if I do that I could put in here.
0:50:17.690 --> 0:50:23.330
Stephanie Jones
So we, you know, we so big, umm.
0:50:25.220 --> 0:50:26.90
Stephanie Jones
We released.
0:50:28.530 --> 0:50:29.370
Stephanie Jones
Initial versions.
0:50:39.980 --> 0:50:43.890
Stephanie Jones
And then we had the internal, what was that called?
0:50:45.270 --> 0:50:47.900
Stephanie Jones
Be 1.2.
0:50:49.910 --> 0:50:50.590
Stephanie Jones
Which it's us.
0:50:49.300 --> 0:50:51.330
Joshua Haseldine
In no.
0:50:51.340 --> 0:50:55.70
Joshua Haseldine
Well, 1.2 is coming end of this month.
0:50:55.120 --> 0:51:2.560
Joshua Haseldine
So one point 1.01 for bug fixes and then 1.1 for additional features.
0:51:11.340 --> 0:51:11.520
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah.
0:51:10.0 --> 0:51:12.350
Stephanie Jones
1.1 that that.
0:51:13.0 --> 0:51:18.560
Joshua Haseldine
Yes, I mean, you could just Rob badge them all into 1.1 for bug fixes and additional features cause.
0:51:21.0 --> 0:51:23.270
Joshua Haseldine
But yeah, yeah, they they go.
0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:24.410
Joshua Haseldine
Looks like we've released twice for that.
0:51:25.150 --> 0:51:25.710
Stephanie Jones
There you go.
0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:28.680
Stephanie Jones
And then the next is, umm, uh.
0:51:30.770 --> 0:51:37.380
Stephanie Jones
Are we doing anything between 1.1 and the one point who?
0:51:38.300 --> 0:51:38.610
Joshua Haseldine
What?
0:51:38.620 --> 0:51:40.920
Joshua Haseldine
What is in the internal release on top?
0:51:42.420 --> 0:51:42.770
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:51:45.660 --> 0:51:46.220
Joshua Haseldine
Right.
0:51:42.780 --> 0:51:47.580
Stephanie Jones
One point is 1.3 the external release or 1.2.
0:51:46.380 --> 0:51:49.650
Joshua Haseldine
Sorry, sorry, I've just realized that's internally.
0:51:54.80 --> 0:51:54.220
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:51:49.660 --> 0:51:59.670
Joshua Haseldine
Sorry, I thought we would complete cause it says internal and external external will stay the same as July 31st, but the next internal release is.
0:52:1.190 --> 0:52:6.960
Joshua Haseldine
June 29th No May 20.
0:52:7.310 --> 0:52:21.470
Joshua Haseldine
Ohh sorry, I want my dates wrong here June 5th for the next internal release and then we'll do the another release which is the external release on June 5th, but then that leads into testing and then actually pushing it out so.
0:52:20.430 --> 0:52:22.70
Stephanie Jones
OK, I did.
0:52:22.370 --> 0:52:23.600
Stephanie Jones
I did mean code for.
0:52:23.610 --> 0:52:24.280
Stephanie Jones
I meant in.
0:52:24.330 --> 0:52:24.920
Stephanie Jones
I didn't.
0:52:24.930 --> 0:52:29.20
Stephanie Jones
I did not mean internal release like I'm talking about down here, so I did make that confusing.
0:52:29.30 --> 0:52:31.20
Stephanie Jones
What I did meet here was the code freeze.
0:52:31.30 --> 0:52:35.550
Stephanie Jones
This was our development is 4 OK.
0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:38.20
Joshua Haseldine
All the extent photo release that's going out to our customer.
0:52:39.380 --> 0:52:39.750
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah.
0:52:38.720 --> 0:52:40.610
Stephanie Jones
Yeah, the.
0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:41.250
Joshua Haseldine
Then, then those dates are fine.
0:52:41.260 --> 0:52:41.640
Joshua Haseldine
Just put.
0:52:41.650 --> 0:52:42.490
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah, just leave it as code.
0:52:42.500 --> 0:52:42.820
Joshua Haseldine
Freeze then.
0:52:43.620 --> 0:52:47.150
Stephanie Jones
And and the the external release is that 1.3?
0:52:48.250 --> 0:52:48.730
Joshua Haseldine
*****.
0:52:48.740 --> 0:52:50.400
Joshua Haseldine
I don't wanna release will be 1.3, yeah.
0:52:51.70 --> 0:52:51.300
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:52:55.690 --> 0:53:0.230
Stephanie Jones
And I'm I'm calling out this separate up here because this is the big external.
0:53:1.400 --> 0:53:3.280
Stephanie Jones
I'm gonna say commercial.
0:53:5.520 --> 0:53:9.220
Stephanie Jones
Release of the 1.3.
0:53:9.280 --> 0:53:9.710
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:53:9.670 --> 0:53:9.850
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah.
0:53:9.800 --> 0:53:13.150
Stephanie Jones
And then remind me 1.2 is what?
0:53:12.500 --> 0:53:16.20
Joshua Haseldine
Yes, the next internal release is 1.2.
0:53:16.970 --> 0:53:18.310
Stephanie Jones
And that's what's ended this month.
0:53:18.720 --> 0:53:20.40
Joshua Haseldine
And that's June 5th.
0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:23.720
Stephanie Jones
And what does that have in it?
0:53:25.130 --> 0:53:27.490
Joshua Haseldine
Most the entirety of audit trail.
0:53:28.690 --> 0:53:30.270
Joshua Haseldine
Uh Reece.
0:53:30.310 --> 0:53:33.190
Joshua Haseldine
Principal risk and.
0:53:35.850 --> 0:53:38.230
Joshua Haseldine
I'm some of notifications but not all.
0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:40.40
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:53:42.290 --> 0:53:46.130
Joshua Haseldine
Dashboards and what's the what's there's like?
0:53:46.140 --> 0:53:47.550
Joshua Haseldine
There's, like a BIG4 audit trail.
0:53:48.250 --> 0:53:48.420
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:49.380
Joshua Haseldine
Notifications, dashboards and what's the other one?
0:53:50.370 --> 0:53:55.170
Stephanie Jones
Umm Audit trail notifications, dashboards and.
0:53:59.750 --> 0:53:59.970
Stephanie Jones
3.
0:54:0.610 --> 0:54:3.90
Joshua Haseldine
Hey, whatever is it will probably have it in it.
0:54:3.390 --> 0:54:5.390
Joshua Haseldine
But yeah, yeah.
0:54:5.400 --> 0:54:5.810
Joshua Haseldine
There you go.
0:54:4.200 --> 0:54:9.0
Stephanie Jones
Yeah, attachments needs cases, audit trail and dashboards attachments.
0:54:5.820 --> 0:54:9.590
Joshua Haseldine
What attachments he has attachments in it, yeah.
0:54:11.230 --> 0:54:12.930
Joshua Haseldine
So yeah, it's it has attachments.
0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:16.720
Stephanie Jones
OK, OK.
0:54:16.730 --> 0:54:18.640
Stephanie Jones
And then 1.3 will be.
0:54:19.260 --> 0:54:20.470
Joshua Haseldine
The rest of notifications.
0:54:21.60 --> 0:54:24.630
Stephanie Jones
The rest of notifications, I'm just putting my notes in here.
0:54:25.80 --> 0:54:27.530
Stephanie Jones
OK, I'll clean this up, all right.
0:54:27.830 --> 0:54:30.350
Stephanie Jones
And then 1.3 is the external.
0:54:31.100 --> 0:54:32.210
Stephanie Jones
So we're calling that out.
0:54:32.220 --> 0:54:34.430
Stephanie Jones
OK then the.
0:54:36.410 --> 0:54:37.640
Stephanie Jones
I don't have.
0:54:37.730 --> 0:54:42.60
Stephanie Jones
I need to find out if I don't really have anything to put for the release.
0:54:42.70 --> 0:54:54.980
Stephanie Jones
After this I did include it on here because we Josh, maybe you and I separately need to talk about this, but just like because we have, I I wanna say in here that we have started progress on audit planning custom fields and then where we're at with licensing.
0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:55.970
Joshua Haseldine
OK.
0:54:56.40 --> 0:54:56.730
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah, we'll cut.
0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:58.590
Stephanie Jones
So let's do that.
0:54:58.600 --> 0:54:59.310
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:54:59.620 --> 0:54:59.880
Stephanie Jones
Yep.
0:54:56.740 --> 0:55:0.520
Joshua Haseldine
We can catch it will not just just give me a shout whenever you're free.
0:55:0.900 --> 0:55:1.600
Stephanie Jones
Yeah.
0:55:1.840 --> 0:55:6.130
Stephanie Jones
And then after that, we'll be the roadmap which this will be a screenshot from.
0:55:6.140 --> 0:55:9.970
Stephanie Jones
Aha, which is I haven't put in here yet because we don't.
0:55:10.100 --> 0:55:14.0
Stephanie Jones
We still are working without a little bit this week and then the metrics.
0:55:15.720 --> 0:55:16.360
Joshua Haseldine
That looks great.
0:55:18.140 --> 0:55:18.320
Stephanie Jones
OK.
0:55:19.830 --> 0:55:26.570
Stephanie Jones
And then the I need to talk to Andrew about how we're going to handle ideagen analytics because we haven't really started that yet.
0:55:26.580 --> 0:55:27.430
Stephanie Jones
So it's.
0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:32.810
Stephanie Jones
I don't know how to represent it in here, but I feel good about presenting the audit and risk piece.
0:55:33.650 --> 0:55:36.730
Stephanie Jones
So, OK, that's really what I wanted to go over.
0:55:39.780 --> 0:55:40.450
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah.
0:55:37.500 --> 0:55:41.410
Stephanie Jones
Did you wanna talk about your what you wanted to talk to Chris about?
0:55:42.930 --> 0:55:43.90
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:55:40.840 --> 0:55:44.710
Joshua Haseldine
Well, it's basically just a quick question and I don't know even know if you'll have the answer, Chris.
0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:50.840
Stephanie Jones
It's.
0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:53.790
Chris DiPierro
No.
0:55:57.360 --> 0:55:57.570
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:55:45.420 --> 0:56:0.80
Joshua Haseldine
But basically I'm playing wild goose chase in ideagen for a skew and and the person who I did come for it for gainsight and he's he's not reluctant to give it.
0:56:9.250 --> 0:56:9.730
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, sure.
0:56:12.180 --> 0:56:12.410
Chris DiPierro
Who?
0:56:12.420 --> 0:56:12.770
Chris DiPierro
Who?
0:56:0.90 --> 0:56:12.830
Joshua Haseldine
He's still trying to work out if it's been cope with one or two and and it's basically blocking us because if we don't get it, then what do we put in its place and the that's the question I'm being asked from them is you know?
0:56:12.780 --> 0:56:14.200
Chris DiPierro
Sorry, who have you been chasing?
0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:15.300
Joshua Haseldine
Ohh so I'm asking Andrew.
0:56:15.310 --> 0:56:16.520
Joshua Haseldine
Andrew is asking.
0:56:16.260 --> 0:56:16.650
Chris DiPierro
I.
0:56:16.530 --> 0:56:17.720
Joshua Haseldine
Ohh forgive me.
0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:20.230
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:20.400
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:56:17.780 --> 0:56:20.720
Joshua Haseldine
Adam Perkins is his name. I'm.
0:56:21.250 --> 0:56:23.80
Chris DiPierro
Uh, well.
0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:26.740
Chris DiPierro
Those are the names I would have given you so.
0:56:26.470 --> 0:56:28.80
Joshua Haseldine
Yeah, exactly.
0:56:28.610 --> 0:56:30.0
Joshua Haseldine
So I've gone to him.
0:56:30.10 --> 0:56:33.800
Joshua Haseldine
Basically asked him, you know, well, like if they if they're not gonna give him the what can we put them in?
0:56:33.810 --> 0:56:35.200
Joshua Haseldine
What can we put in its place?
0:56:35.330 --> 0:56:36.180
Joshua Haseldine
And they don't know.
0:56:39.370 --> 0:56:39.770
Chris DiPierro
I mean.
0:56:36.590 --> 0:56:42.820
Joshua Haseldine
And now I presume you're not sure as well, which is fine, but I'm in La La land there.
0:56:42.180 --> 0:56:46.370
Chris DiPierro
I well it it comes down to you can put whatever you want, right?
0:56:46.380 --> 0:56:46.890
Chris DiPierro
Like it's not.
0:56:46.900 --> 0:56:51.150
Chris DiPierro
There's no validation and PX that says like it's gotta be this thing or or whatnot.
0:56:51.280 --> 0:56:56.110
Chris DiPierro
And I think the person who is most relevant to this conversation, though, is Adam Perkins, right?
0:56:56.380 --> 0:56:56.620
Joshua Haseldine
Yep.
0:56:56.120 --> 0:57:1.650
Chris DiPierro
Because he's the one who's trying to take this data and correlate it up at the CS level.
0:57:1.900 --> 0:57:16.550
Chris DiPierro
And even though we don't yet have the tenant ID's right or the IID, some bits of the subscription, that kind of stuff and we do split or I should say really gainsight splits those three pieces up when it feeds it to.
0:57:16.630 --> 0:57:21.310
Chris DiPierro
So the the the part that you're interacting PX, but there's another game site thing called CS.
0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:22.470
Chris DiPierro
That's what Adam works with.
0:57:22.840 --> 0:57:32.930
Chris DiPierro
When PX feeds data to CS, it does split that IID by those 3 delimiters essentially, so presumably CS is doing something with that skew.
0:57:32.940 --> 0:57:39.340
Chris DiPierro
I don't know exactly why, because I don't really have visibility on that side of it, so I would assume that Adam would want it to be, you know, correct.
0:57:39.930 --> 0:57:41.630
Chris DiPierro
So so so.
0:57:42.610 --> 0:57:43.360
Joshua Haseldine
Ah yeah.
0:57:44.510 --> 0:57:46.820
Chris DiPierro
My my guidance is it.
0:57:46.830 --> 0:57:49.920
Chris DiPierro
It's truly blocking and you wanna do stuff with PX.
0:57:52.50 --> 0:57:52.240
Joshua Haseldine
So.
0:57:58.90 --> 0:57:58.360
Joshua Haseldine
I'm.
0:57:49.970 --> 0:58:2.190
Chris DiPierro
Just put the word unknown for your skew at the moment, but I would lean a little bit on Adam if you can and try to say I wanna put the real things in here and not put a place holder.
0:58:4.430 --> 0:58:4.590
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:58:1.490 --> 0:58:5.350
Joshua Haseldine
I'm banging on the door, but yes, the door is not opening.
0:58:5.630 --> 0:58:6.790
Joshua Haseldine
But yeah, that's fine.
0:58:6.850 --> 0:58:7.520
Joshua Haseldine
I will.
0:58:12.990 --> 0:58:13.170
Chris DiPierro
Yeah.
0:58:7.650 --> 0:58:17.350
Joshua Haseldine
I'll check and none in and I'll generate a task to just add the real one in once we get it mate, cuz it's set in our Sprint for two weeks now, so I just.
0:58:16.670 --> 0:58:26.300
Chris DiPierro
Especially by the way, if if it, yeah, if it's a dev blocker and you guys wanna see stuff, how it works like in the integration environment and that kind of stuff definitely don't worry about it there like put like whatever the hell you want.
0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:26.720
Joshua Haseldine
So.
0:58:26.310 --> 0:58:33.270
Chris DiPierro
Honestly, from that perspective, ideally before it starts being in the production channel, then yeah, it would be really good to have that so.
0:58:34.340 --> 0:58:34.770
Joshua Haseldine
Hope.
0:58:36.100 --> 0:58:37.10
Joshua Haseldine
Brilliant, right?
0:58:37.100 --> 0:58:39.310
Joshua Haseldine
Well, thank you. Ohh.
0:58:40.0 --> 0:58:40.250
Chris DiPierro
Umm.
0:58:43.240 --> 0:58:43.740
Chris DiPierro
These are good.
0:58:42.530 --> 0:58:44.250
Joshua Haseldine
Like a wipe that off my white Board now.
0:58:44.830 --> 0:58:46.120
Chris DiPierro
Let's keep them happening.
0:58:46.130 --> 0:58:49.540
Chris DiPierro
Dave will have a nice full meeting recording to come back to you and watch.
0:58:52.100 --> 0:58:52.770
Stephanie Jones
Perfect.
0:58:53.180 --> 0:58:53.560
Stephanie Jones
All right.
0:58:54.650 --> 0:58:55.150
Keith Low
Anyway, thank you.
0:58:53.570 --> 0:58:55.660
Stephanie Jones
Thank you guys for your help and that slides too.
0:58:55.670 --> 0:58:56.300
Stephanie Jones
I appreciate it.
0:58:56.210 --> 0:58:56.840
Chris DiPierro
Yeah, of course.
0:58:57.930 --> 0:58:58.880
Chris DiPierro
Have a good one. Bye.
0:58:59.670 --> 0:58:59.850
Keith Low
Yeah.
0:58:59.860 --> 0:59:0.170
Keith Low
Thanks. Bye.
0:58:59.390 --> 0:59:0.970
Stephanie Jones
Alright, thanks everyone. Bye.
0:59:0.880 --> 0:59:1.190
Joshua Haseldine
Cheers.
0:59:1.310 --> 0:59:1.650
Keith Low
Hey, bye bye.
0:59:1.200 --> 0:59:1.900
Joshua Haseldine
Oh, bye.


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