User1: TheCrasig
Posted on: May 24 2008

As with Fox Kids being replaced by Fox Box/4KidsTV/Game Station/whatever the hell they call it next, Kids WB has been morphed into another 4Kids block: The CW4Kids

This talkback is for discussion on how you feel about the change, about the new bumpers, and overall the new look.

Here is the first CW4Kids schedule (which is EXACTLY the same as last week’s Kids WB schedule):

07:00 AM Will & Dewitt
07:30 AM Magi-Nation
08:00 AM Skunk Fu!
08:30 AM Tom & Jerry Tales
09:00 AM The Spectacular Spider-Man
09:30 AM Ben 10
10:00 AM The Batman
10:30 AM World of Quest
11:00 AM Johnny Test
11:30 AM Horrid Henry

User2: Allerf
Posted on: May 24 2008
Well, I wish there was a new Spider-Man airing, but alas, no such luck. Gotta wait until next week.

Wonder what type of bumpers they’ll use.

EDIT: Okay, so the bumps are exactly the same, just with the new logo. Except they don’t use the Kids’ WB water tower bumps.

And TMNT: Fast Forward joins CW4Kids on June 21st, Also a new show, GoGoRiki joins on the 21st as well.

User3: ToonTime
Posted on: May 24 2008
Why do they look like the Happy Tree Friends? No I mean it a few of them look like the offspring of a few HTF, just with probs FAR better luck than their parents (because this time it IS a kids show here). Either way, it looks really cute

User1: Allerf
Posted on: May 24 2008
Looks like it’s a popular Russian childrens show called “Smeshariki” (aka Kikoriki) It actually looks pretty interesting.

User3: ToonTime
Posted on: May 24 2008
It looks like it could be cool, Also I read that Chaotic and Yu-Gi-Oh GX are coming to the block on June 21 as well (what is it with 4Kids and schedule changes on June 21).

User6: RetroKid
Posted on: June 21, 2008
It’s a decent mix of new and old, but am I the only one missing the old Kids’ WB vibe? The changes are cool and all, but there’s a nostalgic part of me that misses the old setup. Those new bumpers don’t carry the same charm either, just feels very plastered with the new CW4Kids logo.

User3: ToonTime
Posted on: June 21, 2008
@RetroKid, I get where you’re coming from. The nostalgia factor does play a huge role. But change is inevitable, I guess. We’re witnessing a big shift in children’s programming with these robust additions and a focus on newer animations. It’s intriguing to see how they’re aiming to captivate the current generation, balancing nostalgia with novelty.

User1: TheCrasig
Posted on: June 21, 2008
Everyone’s points are valid. It’s a balancing act for CW4Kids. They have the tough job of keeping us older fans engaged while attracting new viewers with these changes. Excited to see where they take this new era though. Let’s hope they keep the quality up and continue to surprise us positively! Write a follow up where the 7am to 12pm schedule starting June 21 is revealed, A user also says that promos for all 4 shows involved are airing
User1: TheCrasig
Posted on: June 14, 2008

Hey, everyone! Just saw the updated CW4Kids schedule that’s kicking off on June 21st. Looks like they’re trying to refresh the lineup with some new additions along with retaining a few favorites. Here’s what we’re looking at from 7 am to 12 pm:

07:00 AM Will & Dewitt
07:30 AM Magi-Nation
08:00 AM Skunk Fu!
08:30 AM Tom & Jerry Tales
09:00 AM The Spectacular Spider-Man
09:30 AM Ben 10
10:00 AM The Batman
10:30 AM World of Quest
11:00 AM Johnny Test
11:30 AM Chaotic

Also, starting June 21, TMNT: Fast Forward and GoGoRiki will be part of the CW4Kids lineup. Plus, Yu-Gi-Oh GX is making a debut. Quite a mix!

The promos for all four new and returning shows (Chaotic, TMNT: Fast Forward, GoGoRiki, and Yu-Gi-Oh GX) have been airing this past week. They promise some exciting adventures—especially curious about GoGoRiki learning it’s been quite the hit abroad as “Smeshariki”.

User2: Allerf
Posted on: June 15, 2008

Caught those promos, and they definitely are hyping up the changes! TMNT: Fast Forward looks action-packed, and Yu-Gi-Oh GX feels like a fresh wind for the franchise. Also, GoGoRiki’s animation style is super unique—definitely stands out.

It’ll be interesting to see how Chaotic performs here since it’s quite a shift from the usual animated series with its integration of that game-based interactive aspect.

User6: RetroKid
Posted on: June 16, 2008

I’m a bit wary but hopeful. The inclusion of game-oriented shows like Chaotic can either bring something fresh or could alienate viewers who prefer traditional cartoons. Either way, I’m setting my DVR; not going to miss out on the chance to see how all these changes play out!

User3: ToonTime
Posted on: June 17, 2008

@RetroKid, I’m with you. It’s a gamble but could very well pay off by bringing in a different demographic. Plus, I’m intrigued by the storytelling potential in shows like Chaotic where the audience might have more skin in the game.

And I’ve got to say, GoGoRiki looks adorable! After seeing those promos, it’s clear they’re gunning for charm, and it just might work.

User1: TheCrasig
Posted on: June 18, 2008

Totally! There’s something in this new lineup for everyone it seems. From nostalgia hits with the likes of The Batman and Tom & Jerry Tales to newer experiences with Chaotic and GoGoRiki. Can’t wait for June 21st to see how everything unfolds! Let’s all tune in and revisit here to discuss our thoughts on the makeover. Exciting times for CW4Kids!
Write a follow up where the updated schedule (with GoGoRiki, TMNT and Yu-Gi-Oh GX) are added
User1: TheCrasig
Posted on: June 22, 2008

Morning, everyone! Just tuned into the first airing of the updated CW4Kids schedule. Here’s the lineup as it went live today from 7 am to 12 pm:

07:00 AM Will & Dewitt
07:30 AM Magi-Nation
08:00 AM Skunk Fu!
08:30 AM Tom & Jerry Tales
09:00 AM The Spectacular Spider-Man
09:30 AM Ben 10
10:00 AM TMNT: Fast Forward
10:30 AM GoGoRiki
11:00 AM Yu-Gi-Oh GX
11:30 AM Chaotic

It looks like the newcomers made quite the entrance. TMNT: Fast Forward brought some serious action right at 10, followed by a more lighthearted tone with GoGoRiki. Then, Yu-Gi-Oh GX added that much-missed card duel excitement, leading into Chaotic with its game-based storyline.

I’ve got to say, the blend of action, adventure, and playful humor seems very well-rounded. What does everyone else think? Did the new shows meet your expectations?

User2: Allerf
Posted on: June 22, 2008

Caught the lineup this morning too. Impressed by how seamlessly TMNT: Fast Forward has transitioned into our Saturday mornings. And GoGoRiki? It was surprisingly captivating! Definitely didn’t expect to enjoy it as much as I did—the characters are charming and the humor is spot-on for kids and adults.

Yu-Gi-Oh GX pulled me right back into the nostalgia of the original series. It’s refreshing yet familiar. Kuddos to CW4Kids for this blend!

User6: RetroKid
Posted on: June 22, 2008

Absolutely enjoyed TMNT, it kinda threw me back to the older series—still got that kick! I was skeptical about GoGoRiki, thinking it might be too childish, but it turned out to be clever and funny. Yu-Gi-Oh GX has me thinking I might just get back into collecting cards again!

Chaotic was a lot to take in, but I’m interested to see where it goes with its interactive concept. Overall, I think this schedule update could actually work.

User3: ToonTime
Posted on: June 22, 2008

Totally on board with everyone here. The integration of GoGoRiki was what surprised me the most. Those round, simplistic characters really deliver on complex, witty humor, which is a big win. TMNT and Yu-Gi-Oh GX hit the nostalgia perfectly while adding something new to keep us hooked!

Chaotic’s involvement makes me curious about its potential impact on the audience interaction—it adds a whole new layer to just watching a show.

User1: TheCrasig
Posted on: June 23, 2008

Loving the feedback, folks! It sure seems like CW4Kids has carefully curated a lineup that revitalizes some of our old favorites while introducing potential new classics. Here’s to more Saturday mornings filled with this exciting mix! Keep the reviews coming; it’s great to hear from other enthusiasts who appreciate these shifts as much as I do. Let’s keep watching and see how these new additions evolve over the season!
Write a convo where during the credits of the final showing of Johnny Test last week (June 14) they offered 2 shows to viewers (one for comedy, one for action, TMNT was the action option), A user said neither of the 2 will replace JT in their hearts, but they are both good shows
User1: TheCrasig
Posted on: June 15, 2008

Hey everyone, just wanted to bring up last week’s Johnny Test finale. During the credits, they pitched two shows to us as replacements—GoGoRiki for comedy and TMNT: Fast Forward for action. What do you guys think? Can any of these truly fill the void Johnny Test will leave behind?

User5: AnimFan21
Posted on: June 15, 2008

Caught that! I have to admit, while both shows look promising, neither of them will replace Johnny Test in my heart. Johnny had a unique blend of mischief and experiments that made Saturdays more fun. Still, I’m willing to give these new shows a shot.

User6: RetroKid
Posted on: June 15, 2008

I agree with AnimFan21. Johnny Test had something special that’s hard to match. But I was impressed with TMNT: Fast Forward’s preview—it looks like it can deliver some solid action, which is always great. As for GoGoRiki, it seems cute and could be a nice change of pace with its humor.

User7: ToonGuru
Posted on: June 15, 2008

True, Johnny Test is irreplaceable, but let’s not forget change can be good. GoGoRiki might just surprise us all with its charm and wit, and the action in TMNT: Fast Forward seems promising. Let’s stay optimistic and welcome these new shows with open arms.

User2: Allerf
Posted on: June 16, 2008

Neither GoGoRiki nor TMNT will take Johnny Test’s place for me, but they’re still good shows based on the previews. GoGoRiki has a quirky humor that’s pretty refreshing, and TMNT: Fast Forward seems to carry the action-packed legacy of the TMNT series. Still, it’s a bittersweet transition without Johnny Test.

User1: TheCrasig
Posted on: June 16, 2008

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, everyone! It’s clear Johnny Test holds a special place in our hearts, and these changes are definitely bittersweet. Yet, it’s exciting to see how GoGoRiki and TMNT: Fast Forward will carve their own niches in CW4Kids’ lineup. Let’s keep our minds open and give these new shows a fair chance. Who knows? They might just grow on us!
Write a follow up where a user asks what shows use 4Kids TV announcers in promos, and which use Kids WB ones, one user gives a full list
User8: PixelHunt
Posted on: June 24, 2008

Does anyone know which shows are using the 4Kids TV announcers in their promos and which ones are sticking with the Kids WB style? I can’t seem to figure out the pattern here.

User3: ToonTime
Posted on: June 24, 2008

Hey PixelHunt, that’s a great question! I’ve been noticing some differences too. I went ahead and checked out the recent promos, and here’s what I found:

4Kids TV Announcers are used for:
- TMNT: Fast Forward
- Yu-Gi-Oh GX
- Chaotic

Kids’ WB Announcers are used for:
- The Spectacular Spider-Man
- Tom & Jerry Tales
- Will & Dewitt
- Ben 10
- Magi-Nation
- Skunk Fu!
- GoGoRiki

It looks like the newer additions or shows that have a more intense, action-oriented theme tend to use the 4Kids TV style. In contrast, the shows that carried over directly from the original Kids’ WB lineup or have a more classic/cartoonish vibe stuck with the Kids WB announcers. Hope that helps!

User6: RetroKid
Posted on: June 24, 2008

Thanks, ToonTime! That makes a lot of sense when you put it that way. I guess they’re trying to keep some consistency with the shows that were originally part of Kids’ WB, while introducing a new style for shows that are either new or were more closely associated with 4Kids.

User1: TheCrasig
Posted on: June 25, 2008

Great breakdown, ToonTime! It’s interesting to see how they are balancing the old and new styles to perhaps cater to different audiences or just to keep a semblance of both past and present in the mix. This could also play into how they market these shows differently based on their target demographics and themes.

User8: PixelHunt
Posted on: June 25, 2008

Thanks, everyone, especially ToonTime for the detailed list! It’s interesting to see how the branding and presentation strategies are unfolding with these changes. Keeping a blend of both announcer styles is a clever way to transition the audience from the familiar Kids’ WB to the new CW4Kids vibe. Write a convo where a user says it’s easy to tell which promo was made by which team (the positioning of the logo is slightly bigger, and the website text is smaller on the 4Kids made ones), And a user says it’s VERY weird they had Warner make a promo for the newest 4Kids show,
User9: ClassicToons
Posted on: June 26, 2008

Has anyone else noticed the subtle differences in the promos based on who made them? The 4Kids made promos have a slightly bigger logo and the website text is smaller compared to the ones made by the old Kids’ WB team. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it!

User10: TuneWatcher
Posted on: June 26, 2008

Yeah, ClassicToons, I caught that too! It’s like each team has their own signature style which subtly shines through. It’s almost like a fun little “spot the differences” game when watching the promos back to back.

User3: ToonTime
Posted on: June 26, 2008

It’s fascinating how these small details give away the origins of the promos. The positioning and sizing of elements like logos and text do speak volumes about the branding priorities of each team. Makes you wonder about the internal decisions on these presentations.

User9: ClassicToons
Posted on: June 26, 2008

It’s VERY weird though, that Warner Bros, typically associated with Kids’ WB, made a promo for the newest 4Kids show. That’s not something you see every day. It’s like worlds colliding.

User5: AnimFan21
Posted on: June 27, 2008

I noticed that too, ClassicToons! It was pretty surprising to see Warner handle a promo for a 4Kids-centric show. Maybe it’s a sign of closer collaboration between the two or just an experiment to see how well they can integrate their styles. It sure has sparked a lot of curiosity among us fans!

User1: TheCrasig
Posted on: June 27, 2008

Absolutely, the blending of efforts by Warner and 4Kids might be a strategic move to merge the best of both worlds in kids’ entertainment. Perhaps it’s their way of easing the transition for audiences or experimenting with a unified approach to marketing. Either way, it’s a notable development in the evolution of CW4Kids.

User10: TuneWatcher
Posted on: June 27, 2008

Definitely an intriguing move. It’s almost like a crossover episode but for promotional content. It keeps us guessing and, honestly, I’m here for it. Will be interesting to see if they continue this trend and how it might affect viewer reception and brand identity moving forward.

User3: ToonTime
Posted on: June 27, 2008

It does make one think about the potential directions they could take with this hybrid approach. Could we see more of this in future promotions? And if so, how will that shape the CW4Kids identity? It’s a blend that is unexpected but could yield some creative results. Exciting times in the animation promo world!
Write a convo listing the 4Kids made 4Kids show promos, and the sole one did by the Warner team
User9: ClassicToons
Posted on: June 28, 2008

Hey everyone! With all this talk about the distinctive styles of the 4Kids vs. Warner made promos, I thought it’d be cool to list out which 4Kids shows had their promos made by 4Kids and the one that was surprisingly crafted by the Warner team. Here’s what I’ve gathered:

4Kids Made Promos:
1. TMNT: Fast Forward
2. Yu-Gi-Oh GX
3. Chaotic

The Warner Team Made Promo:
1. GoGoRiki

User2: Allerf
Posted on: June 28, 2008

Great list, ClassicToons! It’s pretty clear 4Kids has been mostly handling their own show promos. The GoGoRiki promo by Warner threw me for a loop though. It’s not every day that you see Warner dabbling in promotional content for what is clearly a 4Kids-centric programming.

User5: AnimFan21
Posted on: June 28, 2008

That breakdown really puts into perspective how rare and unusual the Warner-made GoGoRiki promo is. It makes you wonder what prompted that decision. Maybe Warner has a particular insight or creative angle they believed could be effective for that show’s audience.

User3: ToonTime
Posted on: June 28, 2008

Yes, and maybe it’s a test strategy to see if Warner’s traditional approach could bring a fresh vibe to a 4Kids show, possibly to attract a broader viewership. It’s a cross-pollination of creative styles that could yield interesting results.

User10: TuneWatcher
Posted on: June 28, 2008

Absolutely! This could potentially be a pilot move to leverage the strengths of each team. If successful, we might see more of such collaborations. It’s definitely something to keep an eye on as it could signify a new era of promo creation and marketing strategies within children’s networks. Or maybe it's just because GoGoRiki has not premiered on 4Kids TV, and is making it's debut straight on CW4Kids

User9: ClassicToons
Posted on: June 29, 2008

Definitely something to watch out for. It’s like blending different flavors to see if you get a new, popular favorite. Whether it’s a one-time thing or the start of a trend, it’s got us talking and speculating, which in itself might be seen as a win for the network. Curious to see how this develops! Write a forum convo where a user asks if HH is returning, a user says "No, I don't think 4Kids will air it on either block, They could surprise us, but with Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds, Yu-Gi-Oh GX, TMNT: Back To The Sewers, (the rest of the current lineup) it doesn't seem like a show that would fit CW4Kids anymore"