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User: Description: Hired Gun | Dokumentarfilm | Ganzer Film auf Deutsch 

Regie: Fran Strine
Drehbuch: Tim Calandrello, Fran Strine
Hauptbesetzung. John 5, Kenny Aronoff, Corey Britz
(2016)

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Hired Gun | Dokumentarfilm | Ganzer Film auf Deutsch
Title: Hired Gun | Dokumentarfilm | Ganzer Film auf Deutsch
Caption: [Music] [Music] I could go out on tour actually and play by myself as far as you know most people know but um it works like an orchestra on stage I happen to write the songs I write the songs um and uh I&#39;m I kind of conduct the band and we work as an orchestra I don&#39;t go out and uh do a Tom Jones thing with with a bunch of siden a hir gun is an assassin the best available musician that gets hired to go on tour to deliver that music for that artist nobody will know who he is but he gets the gig because he&#39;s the elite [Music] player it seems like there&#39;s about 20 musicians were talking about that have made every single record that everybody [Music] owns there&#39;s always somebody standing by ready to take your place if uh if things aren&#39;t going well well that&#39;s for [Music] sure my job security was my [Music] awesomeness you have to be even more focused than somebody who&#39;s permanently in a band because what you&#39;re doing today reflects in what you&#39;re going to be doing [Music] tomorrow you have to play great all the time because you&#39;re entertaining the name and if you&#39;re not great tonight you may lose your gig [Music] tomorrow we know the riffs that they played on guitar or piano or saxophone but we don&#39;t know face her their name being a Hired Gun you&#39;re sitting in the front row to a very glamorous high-profile exciting lifestyle but it has nothing to do with [Music] you my mother was always into music used to cut school to go see Frank arra and stuff like that and U my father was a bit of a square but they bought me a set of drums when I was maybe 12 11 years old because my father says because they didn&#39;t make Prozac back [Music] then when I was 19 years old I was playing with a guy named uh Richie super and Doug stagmire and Russell jabbers are in the audience watching me play was just something about lib that was very very special and I would go there as a kid and I say I&#39;m going to start a band with this guy you know that&#39;s the drummer I want to play with and it just evolved eventually we started a band called topper Doug stemm got the gig with Billy first he went on the street life serenada tour with Billy Joel when Billy told Doug that he wanted to move from California back to New York and he wanted a New York style drum so Doug said well we got the guy I know the guy first one Doug brought in because he was looking for a Rhythm Section was Liberty so they really started doing Turn Styles together with the three of them we got in the studio the three of us started to record me Doug and Billy just base drums and piano and when we listened Back Billy would say well you know I could use some guitar on this and we said well we no guitar players So eventually topper became Billy Joel&#39;s band and that was the band that went on and toward the turn Styles album the rest is [Music] history as a hard gun you have to be on point all the time oh you got to be prepared and ready to go the one most important thing that&#39;ll make it good is your attitude damn sure you know what the artist needs that&#39;s the key and then provide it being able to sing is always a plus if you can sing good and play you&#39;re going to get the gig before the guy that just plays good you got to be able to memorize stuff fast we get good at zeroing in on exactly what we need to hit very quickly there&#39;s no room for a b game here you gotta always bring a and just knock teeth out that&#39;s what you got to [Music] do I didn&#39;t really start playing metal or rock until I became part of quio Riot I&#39;m talking about the choir Riot version with Randy rhods uh which I was a member of in the 7s that version of choir RI was more of a glam rock band at the music scene at the time was very much Centric on New Wave and punk and bands like choir Riot we were considered dinosaurs there was word around town that the uh singer from Black Sabbath was looking for new musicians you know to put a band together so I was trying to get a hold of anybody meanwhile ay&#39;s management his people you know were trying to get a hold Randy to come on audition he went out there you know met with Azie and and as he was tuning up and just doodling around the guitar he got the gig and early 1981 I get the phone call from Azie Randy keeps telling me that you&#39;re the one and I met with Azie that night and Sharon and I guess I passed the test you want the gig yeah so I went from sleeping on the floor just a sheet to all a sudden I am not only a member of Aussie&#39;s band but I&#39;m living with him and Sharon up in a mansion in Beverly Hills it&#39;s it&#39;s it&#39;s been an incredible ride ever since you know good people don&#39;t stay undiscovered for very long that&#39;s what I always tell people that are so think the business is so vast it&#39;s not because if you&#39;re good you stand out quick everybody in the business from from Marilyn Manson to Rob Zombie to Azie Osborne to myself who are lead singers all know who where the Corral the a Corral is so you you of course go for those guys [Music] [Applause] first all right I broke two strings wo two [Music] strings I remember getting the paper and opening it up remember my tears hitting the newspaper and like Snot hitting the newspaper man it&#39;s like [ __ ] [Music] [ __ ] any bass players at that time they were into metal he was our hero he was Jimmy Hendricks of the bass man I&#39;ll tell that to anybody straight up I don&#39;t care who you are playing bass you&#39;re not as good as Cliff sorry and I&#39;d only seen him in concert man standing right in front of Cliff like and spent my last 4 bucks on my Metallica shirt you know the talk started happening they were talking about auditions okay who&#39;s the bass player man we got to get somebody cuz we have to continue this tour they have a big big hit on their hands need to rock and roll they got to push through there&#39;s momentum and you&#39;ll never going to get that momentum again they called out 45 to 50 people from around the world I got an early flight borrowed money from all of my friends 20 from that person 10 from that person seven from that nine from that guy whatever they could give me dude you got what audition with Metallica are you everybody&#39;s flipping the [ __ ] out and so I was ready and I got there early I was there the first one there I was there before the band got there on audition day I look over and I poke my head in what have I got myself into like I&#39;m actually going to step in and play with it hit me like Metallica dude 11 days after that we were touring Japan Metallica touring Japan for the first time and I was the Basse playter and at that time I was a Hired Gun for $500 a week okay i&#39; have done it for a sandwich I mean it wouldn&#39;t have mattered I&#39;d have paid you guys five bucks to let me go [ __ ] you know so that was at $500 a week until April the next year when I joined metallic and as a full member for 14 15 years I was not going to pass this up or take this for granted that I was given this opportunity by these guys now you&#39;re in it dude you signed to be in this thing you can&#39;t take that lightly this is big responsibility now everybody&#39;s got their role in this band and nobody wants to be the weak link that&#39;s why that band is still around finding the right person for your band is almost impossible because you&#39;re looking for to me three things you got to find somebody who is an excellent musician which that&#39;s the easiest thing to find there&#39;s a million excellent musicians then you&#39;re get to find somebody who&#39;s really cool who can stand on stage in front of you know 15 100,000 people and be amazing then it whittles it down to a smaller group and then you&#39;re got to find somebody you can stand to be around 24/7 cuz you you know you live with them day in and day out then it shrinks down to about here&#39;s the three people in the music industry I can actually stand to be around so no that is that is the trick you&#39;re going to be traveling with these guys for the next year so you&#39;re going to have to really like these guys because there&#39;s certain people you just don&#39;t it rubs you the wrong way you know it all comes down in the chemistry between people and the hang and how you get along with each other and what kind of person you present yourself as in the group I&#39;ve been lucky enough to not have to be on a tour with any douchy people I I&#39;ve talked to so many friends of mine who just were in a living hell on a tour because of who they had to deal with on a daily basis there&#39;s been times where you know you&#39;ve had someone in the band who maybe isn&#39;t the greatest musician and they leave and you replace them with somebody better technically better musician but the chemistry is gone there&#39;s just something about it you know because sometimes it&#39;s just that wacky personality is the glue that keeps the other three people from killing each other there&#39;s a a bond with musicians when it&#39;s the chemistry is right and it&#39;s an alchemic thing it&#39;s like people playing together and when some take happens that is just magic it&#39;s it&#39;s undeniable there it is right in front of you when we got into the studio with Billy we had this interesting chemistry that you know just kind of clicked you know it was kind of cool we were a very easy band to play with nobody ever went in there with a I&#39;ll show you attitude it was always about framing the song framing Billy we were very open-minded as to how we would do it so George Maron comes to one of the gigs and we&#39;re all excited George Martin&#39;s here oh my God the Beatles producer he&#39;s going to come and hear us play and he&#39;s going to love it he&#39;s going to be great I mean this is fantastic he&#39;s like the greatest producer in the world he watches the show after the show he says I love you Billy I want to produce it but I want to use Studio guys Billy was so loyal to the band that he turned down George Martin I just went off on my own and said look I&#39;m going to use my own guys I don&#39;t care politically what the ramifications are I got to use my own band and uh when we went in with Phil to do the stranger he saw the guys and he went wow they&#39;re great they love him and the band went he likes us certainly Liv and Doug&#39;s contribution you know is what stood out in those records because he frequently Billy would record in a strip down way and would even do a lot of the basic tracks with just Bas and drums Phil came in and he he said to Liberty why don&#39;t you play this backward Samba and Liberty is a real rock and roll drummer and he it&#39;s against every grain in his body to play these Samba type Latin beats and he turned it around it was like bo bo boom it gave it more of a flow [Music] and it just it flowed along a lot better Liv was right at the core of those songs and his mindset was just really perfect for those records because he had that tough Rock androll attitude about those songs yet he knew when to put it out there and when not to so these were parts that really brought the song out of the [Music] groes Liberty DeVito you know some people may not know but this guy has got 30 plus years with the same artist now in The Hired Gun business 3 years is a lot 30 is unheard of he&#39;s definitely is one of those guys that made the band he was in Billy Joel sounded like Billy Joel because of Liberty DeVito the Keith Richards of that band there&#39;s no question but now right here too G the Italian drummer when you see a Billy Joel album if you look at the back of the stranger it&#39;ll say words of music by Billy Joel it won&#39;t say music arranged by anywhere because we all arranged the songs um Only the Good D young he wrote it as a reggae tune and then I&#39;m like this is terrible it&#39;s it&#39;s really bad I I looked at Billy and I said said you know the closest you&#39;ve ever been to Jamaica is Jama a long island where you change trains on the Long Island Railroad only my drum part the intro was I always love the song called up from the skies that is on the jimmi Hendricks AIS Boulder&#39;s love album and up from the sky starts like that and has that quick so I kind of like thought about that song when I said let&#39;s do it this way you know and um it turned out to be [Music] [Music] good I had spent my entire younger years trying to develop some kind of skill playing [Music] guitar that&#39;s the only thing I cared about I practiced hours and hours and hours a day not because I wanted to make sure I was good I played because I really loved it it was fun you could hear yourself getting better you could pick up things that you couldn&#39;t do a Week Ago by the time I was moving to La I knew I had a certain skill level so any opportunity I had to mingle with other musicians and get up and play be in I was like three bands four bands at a time I&#39;d played Tuesday nights with this band I&#39;d play three nights with this band local stuff well eventually what happened was one of the musicians in one of these bands said hey you know um Mandy Moore is looking for an acoustic guitar player and I think that you&#39;d be perfect for the gig Jason got the Mandy Mor gig and I remember thinking good for you I mean it&#39;s a little lighter than what I thought he would probably go for but you know he was working making a good living people might not understand me in the Manny morgate but all I thought is like part one of the plan in motion like most of those gigs I&#39;m not in control of it at all right I&#39;m just the rented guitar player so at some point they decid to do some left turn with business she&#39;s going to go make a movie or we&#39;re going to kind of shut down the music part she&#39;s going to focus on acting or whatever the whatever the reason was and you just in one nanc your job&#39;s over and then you start to realize okay there is no security [Music] here when you&#39;re a kid you&#39;re like I want to be a rock star I want to be a rock star I never said that I always said I want to be a session guy to be a studio musician to be a great Studio musician you have to be a great musician I mean you just do there&#39;s just no two ways about it you can&#39;t be mediocre CU there&#39;s you know good is the enemy of great so if you&#39;re only good there&#39;s a thousand great guys that are going to take your place a producer wants to cast the right people for the right role of this record so they go out and they find the best player uh that that fits the role they find the best guy that for the drums they find the best guy for the bass they find the best guy for the keyboards they find the best guy for the guitars but they also want these guys to be able to blend as if they were in a band the guys on the record not playing on the record never crossed my mind in fact when someone go you know that&#39;s not even whatever Ace Freely playing that that&#39;s so and so or that&#39;s that I don&#39;t think that&#39;s Joe Perry it&#39;s so and so I I go well how is that possible like it didn&#39;t it never even crossed to my mind that that ever went on if if you look at the whole dynamic of the LA session scene um all of us in that generation that had replaced obviously the generation before us um we were all aspiring Studio musicians everybody who was anybody had to go through the record plan so I had my guitar in one hand my amp in the other hand and my opening line which was the same line I used to sell songs was you can sit here and I could tell you how great you are we could talk for 20 minutes or you can just let me play for five minutes and I get out your hair we didn&#39;t carry ourselves like rock stars might carry themselves we took a lot of [ __ ] for in the Press like they they made it like being a session musician was bad oh anybody can do that just didn&#39;t read music all day no man that&#39;s not what we did we often times polished the turd before Pro Tools there were Pros I&#39;m a studio musician I&#39;m doing what I&#39;m supposed to do I got to save this now in real time that&#39;s my job Jay Gren and I have been uh buddies for 45 years I came into a club and I saw him play and I just moved to Los Angeles I was so in awe of what I heard and what I saw this amazing technician with heart we became fast friends and have worked together uh over the decades ever since Jay is like a forensic scientist he is so into what he does and he has such an an inner ear for production and for playing you know obviously he&#39;s he&#39;s a great player I&#39;m working with Roger Nichols he&#39;s a recording engineer and he realized I was a good player in his eyes and said Steely Dan&#39;s having a really hard time with this one guitar solo I&#39;m going to recommend you for the gig and I said Roger that would be great because every Studio musician wants to be on a Steely Dan record this is as good as it gets whether you like that band or not you know that if they were ever on a Steely Dan record they&#39;re one of the baddest [ __ ] walking I am 5 milliseconds away from crashing in the middle of the solo and hitting a wall so I&#39;ll take a chance and I&#39;ll step on my dick Fagan says to me the key words think [Music] [Applause] [Music] blues and when I walked out of there I had no idea I was the final guy I&#39;m thinking well I&#39;m Justa another guy they&#39;re going to try no I was the seventh guy and they&#39;re going to who&#39;s eighth who&#39;s ninth who&#39;s 10th they love the solo record comes out and I&#39;m on it and I&#39;m going hey good I won so good for me I was the guy that was like if I said that&#39;s a hit record was doomed when Africa song Africa almost didn&#39;t make the [Music] record when I played on Beat it I thought that was hilarious I heard this the lyric and I cracked up I went beat it I went oh yeah that&#39;s destined for hit and I played all the guitar parts and the bass [Music] part I said if this song&#39;s a hit I&#39;ll run naked down Hollywood Boulevard okay fortunately at this point nobody&#39;s ever called me out on that but seeing reviews seeing Quincy Jones manages to get the members of Toto to play with some kind of taste on you know Thriller you know they just hated the fact that we were on something so huge most of us didn&#39;t stay as Studio musicians very long we realized that it was kind of a dead end even though it was a great living but it was a dead end and all of us would watch The Producers on the other side of the glass and I just know me personally I was going like wow I know I can do that I&#39;m positive I can do what they&#39;re doing they&#39;re relying on us to come up with the music anyway so I&#39;m sure I can do that I went from six figures a year to the first year I produced I made a total of $5,000 three albums all three of them stiffed no sales no nothing and I was very discouraged because I used to think that producing meant just getting a bunch of great musicians together and making a great track but it&#39;s not what producing is producing fundamentally is finding great songs and pairing them with great artists and I didn&#39;t have that part together yet the breakout was when I met earthw in Fire and again that ties into Jay Gren because we wrote after the love is gone together along with Bill [Music] Champlain it propelled me into the 80s into uh Alice Cooper and Chicago and Shaka Khan and Kenny Rogers and Kenny loggin it was a hell of a [Music] decade I got called by Tommy lauma at Warner Brothers to produce George Benson I&#39;ve got four days to come up with a song after two days I have nothing I&#39;m I&#39;m trying to write something and I&#39;m just a blank I don&#39;t have anything I like I came over and he goes let&#39;s write a song for Benson and then afterwards you know we&#39;d hang see if you can come up with a verse I said look I&#39;m just going to walk away for 20 30 minutes I&#39;ll just go do something I&#39;ll come back and I&#39;ll see where you&#39;re at and I came up with the you know [Music] the I come back and he&#39;s got the the intro and the verse nailed and I&#39;m going this is great this tune shaping up great and I came up with that point and he says hey man I got to take a [ __ ] I&#39;ll be right back I&#39;m sitting on the [ __ ] I pop a deuce and the Melody comes into my head I&#39;ve got the groove I&#39;ve got the melody I&#39;ve got the Bas part I&#39;ve got the chorus to the song and I&#39;m going I got to get off the can as fast as I can man I&#39;m doing my best to get off the can as fast as I can and he comes back and he started singing Turn Your Love Around and we were laughing because Jay when he one of his OC CD things he has to take off all of his clothes be completely naked when he thinks a [ __ ] Jay&#39;s going to kill me for that turn your love around don&#39;t you turn me down I can show you how turn your love around unlike Dave and J I just wanted to be the star I want to see my face on the TV screen my mama didn&#39;t understand what I was doing I came home with a record one time and I was so excited and she looked at the record and go I don&#39;t see you and you know what the in in all fairness she was right I was wrong she was right well why don&#39;t you see me and so one day I thought about it I said well you know what I got to cut a record where my face is on the front where I did it I started writing songs and then I decided to cut my own music which I thought I was going to record with a this tun tune I wrote Call You Make Me Feel Like [Music] Dancing number one record one to Grammy which that&#39;s a whole another story and I had another tune called Jack and [Music] Jill so Clive Davis got win to Jack and Jill and he thought that was a smash so he heard it he loved it and we sold almost two million of those only a few people get phenomena and only a couple people get hits and it&#39;s more important to have a classic song that is to have a number one [Music] song first of all I never ever could possibly imagine that I could write a song that would become part of worldwide folklore it&#39;s not even American folklore while I was in California I&#39;ll never forget I had dinner at spos and across the street was this black billboard and every week or so many days they put different things around so now they got the circle going on man like wonder what that is you know well guess what the phone rings here&#39;s Gary LEL from Columbia Pictures and he&#39;s saying Ray there&#39;s a movie coming out he says have you seen these Black posters where we got the circle he says by the time they get the ghost in the rest the movie&#39;s coming out okay so this is going to happen fast and he says we&#39;ve now spent a year year and a half calling everybody we&#39;ve hired everybody we spent millions of dollars but the director is insistent upon the word Ghostbusters must be in the song Ghostbusters and I told G I said well that&#39;s nice but I&#39;m going back to Detroit I&#39;m not doing this I&#39;m like sort of not retired but sort of retired you mean if you don&#39;t like it I get to keep your says yeah if we hate it and you turn into some music you get to keep the 50 Grand stayed up two or three days wrote the song gave it to him and the director Ivan wman called me at 3:30 in the morning he loved it two weeks into this deal Clive Davis said we we sold 4 million records overseas just on Imports and at the medum festival they were already presenting me with a 10 million selling album award to this day people ask me are you tired of hearing people say who you going to call well no it&#39;s like am I tired of holding the best L tick or the best thing that ever happened no who you going to call who can you call [Music] la [Music] Justin&#39;s [Music] amazing nearly 10 years been playing with pink it&#39;s been one of the most amazing experiences of my life it&#39;s a cool process because we all have a lot of input she really lets us be ourselves and it comes across live people feel that people see that you [Music] know for me it&#39;s important that I create a family atmosphere for all of us because it just makes for a healthier environment you are to be a musician and feel like you&#39;re being looked after makes you want to do a better job and do a great job because you know that that you&#39;re being looked after and you&#39;re appreciated and you feel appreciated so it just makes everyone feel like they want to be their best at all times the bar is high so we have to be right there with her as a higher gun quote unquote I&#39;m there to be a supportive band member to the artist to the other musicians to the audience I have have the most brilliant wonderful best ever band give him a hand mark shman on the [Applause] drums sometimes I look at it the audience and it doesn&#39;t look like anybody&#39;s looking at me but I think why should they look at me they can look at [Music] pink we&#39;re perfect [Applause] perfect I&#39;m so thankful I&#39;ve got all these people in my life cuz it&#39;s just been an awesome ride man you know there&#39;s just [ __ ] nothing like it [Music] man [Music] [Applause] [Music] oh [Music] [Music] the first time I heard something I did on the radio was it was definitely uncredited I knew it was me you look at the the the Billboard top 100 and you&#39;re like on 30 of the songs in the top 100 or something like that and they never include us in any of the documentaries for these records and we had a lot to do with them more so than people realize I&#39;m of a mind where if anybody does anything on on a recording they should be credited for it whereas there&#39;s a lot of records that you think were made by bands by themselves you know in that era and before where there were lots of side people playing on him they just didn&#39;t credit [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] them you know string hole is a big song for him and of course in turn a huge song for me but most people think Ted sings it but they don&#39;t realizes that I&#39;m the voice that everybody thinks is Ted&#39;s [Music] [Applause] [Music] Voice songs like sneak skin Cowboys songs like Doggy Dog songs like storm trooping songs like of course strangle hold um song I wrote hey baby songs like just what the doctor ordered that&#39;s me singing all that stuff one night a man in the audience comes up to me and he goes man I&#39;m sorry Ted&#39;s throat wasn&#39;t feeling good tonight but you did a really good job singing his songs so the next time you hear this song you&#39;re going to know it was my voice and that&#39;s somebody [Music] [Applause] else&#39;s I day every night C [Music] nor just what the do [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] w [Music] the the [Music] [Music] the [Music] Kenny man I love Kenny he&#39;s he&#39;s got an energy man one of the most working dudes right oh that guy is so energetic Kenny irof uh he loud I worked with him one time he&#39;s loud [ __ ] loud he&#39;s a really well School musician to the point where he writes out all of his Parts he&#39;s kind of like the Godfather of the higher gum of drums I mean he was doing this [ __ ] when I was in junior [Music] now I grew up in a small town of 3,000 how the [ __ ] do you get out of a town of 3,000 into the Beatles and on stage and touring and making records I didn&#39;t know I was gardening it at 50 cents an hour gardening and I saved up for the snare drum and the symbol all I knew is I wanted to be in the beatle so the only thing I could do is I started a band I did five years at University I was practicing N9 hours a day and playing five nights a week in a jazz Trio one day I&#39;m sitting eating dinner I&#39;m about to walk out and I go you know I should just chill for a second had I not chilled for a second I wouldn&#39;t have run into this singer songwriter said you know this guy Johnny cougar he&#39;s looking for a drummer so they said do you know any of the songs on the record says I&#39;m familiar with the album they picked the song I tore it up broke a symbol sticks flying looking at me smiling shakes my hand goes welcome to hell I&#39;m like w what does he mean by that well I found out and 5 weeks later we&#39;re going to go to LA to make a record in one day I was off the Record life-changing moment for me huge life-changing moment John tells me well you know CER wants to get this song This Album done fast you haven&#39;t had quite as much experience in this studio and I&#39;m thinking NOP no no no no no this is not going to go down this way and uh you know you go home and I just went am I your drummer and I&#39;m going did I just say that I&#39;m not going home am I you a drummer and he goes uh uh uh uh yeah he says well if I&#39;m your drummer I&#39;m going to go to the studio I&#39;m going to watch these guys play my parts and I&#39;m going to benefit from that and you&#39;re going to benefit because I&#39;m your drummer cuz I&#39;m going to get better and that&#39;s good for you you don&#39;t have to pay me I&#39;ll sleep on the floor but I ain&#39;t going home he didn&#39;t know what to say he went all right I did stay and I did watch and I took notes and that was the beginning of a 45 degree angle of my career which is still going at 45 degrees he&#39;s just a creative drummer you know it&#39;s the thing in Jack and Diane that he does I don&#39;t care if it was like pulling teeth to get it out of him he made it up it&#39;s brilliant that&#39;s Kenny arov and that drum feel right there is that guy&#39;s personality and get you we need a drum solo I&#39;m like what on a ballad I&#39;m thinking how do you do a drum solo on a song it&#39;s like a little diddy about Jack and Dian you can&#39;t go you know nobody had done that yet except for Phil Collins and I&#39;m walking toward the dorms I&#39;m going you got 25 5 ft to save your career you got 20 15 10 what are you going to do Kenny what are you going to do I&#39;m at the drum stool facing that way five now I&#39;m like what am I going to do ding something pops into my [Music] head that was it this short little concise thing John&#39;s like Groove start playing the beach so you know that song goes to number one instead of getting excited I [ __ ] my pants because now I&#39;m going like now you have to be number one and you have to do it again and I don&#39;t know if I&#39;m that am I good enough to do that again I think out of all the drummers when uh you people used to say if there was somebody to take your place with Billy who would it be and Kenny was the only one that I could think of cuz I think me and him play a lot lot of Life very aggressive and to the song the great thing about it about Kenny is he is never satisfied with himself so he will always give you that extra bit he&#39;ll he&#39;ll bother you to do [Music] it I travel around with guys in my band it&#39;s like a New York Street gang and we kind of keep each other down to earth for always putting each other down and smacking each other around and keep you know we keep ourselves in line like that we took a band attitude we took a family attitude to what we did those tracks and those tours and and that whole trajectory of what happened with Billy that was part of our Legacy too we all had a lot of laughs and a lot of fun but um I&#39;d heard a little Scuttle butt you know that on the business side there was a lot of weird Vibes going going around that&#39;s when he found out that his manager screwed him out of money I mean there was Millions lost Millions that&#39;ll make you paranoid make you not trust anybody charges in the lawsuit are that they paid Kickbacks to Billy Joel&#39;s manager but never reported this to Mr Joel as a result of this Mr Joel did not fire the manager until after he purported to defraud Mr Joel out of tens of millions of dollars when I got the phone call from Billy he was so such a wreck he was broke he had no money he was like broke the thing he said to me was I want everything back you&#39;re not going to get that payment anymore on the records you&#39;re not going to get a percentage of the gross and then he got this accounting firm that was watching out for his money and they decided that well your name&#39;s on the Marquee why are you paying these guys so much money you can get anybody you want and that&#39;s really when it started to get weird I was tired of being pegged as TI of being stereotyped tired of being pigeon ho hold TI of being bagged as what as as Billy Joel and his Bandon his producer and no matter how much of a different album we would put out from the album before um it wasn&#39;t enough on the bridge album I could kind of feel that it was coming to an end there was an undercurrent there that I kind of in the back of my mind you know I I I could see the writing on the wall I never felt that I thought we&#39;re going to go on and and you know continue to go on but we were in Australia and uh Billy said to me what if I go in the studio with just you and all new players and I was like man what are you going to do with the other guys you know he goes I&#39;m going to get new players and just cut them loose now I&#39;ve got three children and I&#39;m married and I&#39;m like what am I going to say I quit I&#39;m out you know it&#39;s like we weren&#39;t making that much money that I&#39;m a millionaire you know the way it would work is that we would do a tour or whatever and then you wait around and you get the call and you go in there&#39;s a new batch of songs and and you go bang them out so you know we were kind of in that holding pattern and one day I&#39;m driving around and I hear on the radio that Billy&#39;s got a new band and a new album I said what I called up du you you&#39;re not going to believe this and that&#39;s how I found out nobody ever said a word to me after all those years I knew it was going to be announced on MTV that Billy Joel was going in with just me and a whole new bunch of players the guys didn&#39;t know yet and I told Billy I said you got to call these guys and tell them what&#39;s going on and he and he was like I don&#39;t have to do [ __ ] I&#39;m Billy Joel you know it was just time to do something different I worked with a different co-producer and I worked with some different musicians for the first time since 77 Doug and I got let go at the same time I mean I I I remember calling Doug to tell him what I heard on the radio you know you think that you know you know you know if you worked for a company that many years you get a watch and a pension so um you know I didn&#39;t even get a phone call Russell Russell was upset I you know I think it still gets under his skin I can honestly say that I never had any animosity towards Liberty it&#39;s just I just didn&#39;t get it you know I just you know here we are and we&#39;re all brothers and now we&#39;re kind of out of the loop here it was just you know it was that was the toughest pill to swallow either accept it and move on or you don&#39;t you are no longer the person that you were the day before you&#39;re no no longer in Billy Joel&#39;s band you&#39;re no longer going on tour you&#39;re no longer playing at Madison Square Garden your identity is totally gone now you still the guy that played on the records but you&#39;re not that person that you were the day before and Doug had a very very difficult time with that Doug tried and tried and tried to move on but his life just kept taking steps backwards instead of steps forward well I went out with a to do a gig and I came home and my wife then was crying on the couch and something had happened in the afternoon I said come on you&#39;re still crying over what happened this afternoon she goes no Doug&#39;s Doug May killed himself every time I spoke to Doug on the phone it was always uh hi how you doing what&#39;s going on blah blah blah small talk and then you know uh yeah I&#39;m having a hard time paying for this or whatever who at least you still got your [ __ ] gig with Billy [ __ ] you know I [ __ ] lost my gig and you got your [ __ ] gig remember I got you that gig and it was like holy [ __ ] so the one time that he called I&#39;m listening to him on the answering machine and I didn&#39;t pick up the phone because I didn&#39;t want it to turn into one of those phone calls again and that&#39;s when he ended his [Music] life Doug did what he did to himself we all could have been better and helped him but it&#39;s something I still can&#39;t come to grips with I I I I just don&#39;t understand how you go there it&#39;s been maybe one of the toughest things I&#39;ve had to deal with because I felt like I lost my brother and it&#39;s that&#39;s [Music] it right before I got the phone call from Azie the lowest point in my life know I had just turned 30 years old the way that the industry was the music industry in those days being 30 years old being in dinosaur type of musical genre like we were doing in choir Riot wasn&#39;t very promising you know to say the least but what happened was that as as I was pursuing my musical career I was also pursuing my own spirituality you know finding the meaning of life I made peace peace with God that if I didn&#39;t make it as a musician was all right that&#39;s that&#39;s cool but as long as my fingers kept moving I was going to keep playing and within days I got a call from Azie that phone call came in at the right moment joining Azie had a completely different meaning to me that it would have had if I didn&#39;t had make peace with God I understood the blessing that it [Music] was I started my journey journey in music as a Hired Gun for 9in nails TR had this record contract and he said I saw in that band collaps and you were jumping around the stage and you looked like you were having a good time why don&#39;t you come and join 9in nails and use it as a stepping board to get out and do your own thing and I was like okay cool well this sounds like a great idea there was no negotiation it was like hey you want to go on tour sure okay I actually thought I&#39;m a part of this right I&#39;m allowed to like work with you and and make some guitar stuff I had said to Trent I said well when&#39;s the record coming out and he&#39;s like well I&#39;m almost done I&#39;m mastering it and I&#39;m like [ __ ] I didn&#39;t play on it like I didn&#39;t do anything on it you know I said Trent man you&#39;re you&#39;re going to New Orleans you&#39;re going to you know to rebuild your whole life and rent a new house put a studio in it and I&#39;m going back home and live with my mom in the basement and he&#39;s like he looked at me and he went get off your butt and go write a record so I did I had written this song called Hey Man Nice Shot and there&#39;s a glass ceiling in 9in Nails there was a glass ceiling at that time of even if you write you&#39;re never going to own it I was making $400 a month John had called me up who&#39;s their manager and he said hey we&#39;re not seeing you that much and we know you want some more money we&#39;re not really sure what you&#39;re doing but if you want want to make a little bit more money there&#39;s a pizzeria at the bottom of siella drive and they&#39;re looking for drivers would you want to go make some money as a pizza delivery boy I took my little song Hey Man Nice Shot I&#39;ve got a new manager I&#39;ve got a lawyer and I am now in negotiation with five labels what what would you go with the [Music] pizza the power of having a great song and the the fact that you&#39;re the singer changes everything all of a sudden it goes from me being Hired Gun to me being the guy who has to hire a band and I get why Trent was so heavy-handed now I&#39;m in the hiring position to this day I I sit him down and I say listen I&#39;m not going to offer you anything you&#39;re going to go on tour you&#39;re going to have a [ __ ] good time playing music that I wrote as the drummer as the bass player as the guitar player and that&#39;s what you&#39;re going to do oh man filter was it it&#39;s almost laughable what we got paid um we were of every band we toured with we were the lowest paid band members even if we were making the most in guarantees you know as a a Hired Gun and a band at that level you&#39;re not getting paid enough to sustain anything why are you in filter you know what are you doing down here like we like to get in the muck we like to get dirty we play [ __ ] you know shitty clubs I you know we like to keep it real we have to do the uh the paid meet and greets when I say paid like the fans are paying money to meet the band we don&#39;t see any of that money you know I didn&#39;t see any of that money you know the singer keeps it all to himself I like taking the money home I like just keeping it all at home you know what I mean like I&#39;m not I don&#39;t give a [ __ ] like it&#39;s a but stay on the bus you don&#39;t need a [ __ ] hotel room I&#39;d rather just sit home and not be in a band than have to deal with them for another day I know of guys that are hired guns that have great stories great situations they love their jobs um that in this situation it wasn&#39;t for me I had that aha moment of is this really worth it on stage in Germany the show starts just like any other show and I&#39;m running and jumping whatever and really just rocking out and enjoying it and I almost felt this wave come over me and I just I straightened up I turned to Jeff our drummer and I just looked at him I go this isn&#39;t fun anymore like literally that was the moment where I was like I need to find my exit from this this project and I was gone from the vanand like a month later yeah so we&#39;ll just start with the duel got it rolling on what the Philly cheese steak burger on a fresh baked bun at Carl&#39;s Jr and Hardy and and I&#39;m the voice on your TV and radio if they need stuff read I I read it the grilled cheese breakfast sandwich only at Carl Jr uh the most notable one is the Carl Jr voice um without us some guys would starve on our second leg of the Diary of fatan tour we started in Atlanta we did one more show and our third show was in Knoxville Tennessee which is the last time that Randy rhods performed the 25-year-old guitar player lead guitarist for Aussie&#39;s band Randy rhs is dead along with two other passengers in the single engine aircraft that spun out Wing touching the tour bus cartwheeling into a two story house that you see in the background I wake up to this boom this huge boom out the middle of nowhere I mean the last time I saw Randy he was standing on the doorway getting out of the bus and I&#39;m they yelling hey come on you know come on and we&#39;re going to go on a plane and I said you know what I I just I&#39;m going to get out of my bunk when we get to the hotel and then it just lay by the pool and that&#39;s it and I closed the curtains and went back to sleep that was the last time I saw Randy usually we were like always hang out together and do Adventures and do stuff together and this is the only time that I declined went back to sleep and I wake up to glass everywhere there&#39;s glass shatter everywhere the U the window the passenger back window was gone and I looked out and there&#39;s our tour manager Jake Duncan on his knees pulling his hair out crying they&#39;re gone they&#39;re gone I my thought we must been in a highway accident the last thing that I could imagine was that the plane hit us once you realize what&#39;s going on I I it&#39;s this this huge hum hum really low frequency takes over and I couldn&#39;t hear anything I all I he was was a hum there&#39;s no self phones there&#39;s no way to communicate with any authorities like the fire department or the police or anybody to come and help the plane the CNA just crashed through some trees and exploded an impact on the garage that was attached to the house so the house was also on fire we thought no they must have jumped off the plane they they must be somewhere maybe on a tree or something you know we could just accept the reality of it you know that they had crashed inside the plane and their bodies were burning as we were listening to the fire that was the worst experience I&#39;ve ever had in my whole life sometimes death doesn&#39;t give you a warning doesn&#39;t say treat this night and savor it because it will be the last night so I play like there&#39;s no tomorrow I treated it like this is special because there might not be a tomorrow this is it this might be it out of every tragedy there should be something positive gained from it and that&#39;s one thing that I&#39;ve gained from it living like there&#39;s no tomorrow has a replacement for Randy been determined yet no a replacement hasn&#39;t been determined yet but a decision will be made in the course of the next few days to be honest with you we really didn&#39;t have much time to to mourn a decision was made to continue to keep Azie busy occupied if Azie would have just gone home and and cancel the tour would probably drank himself to death so basically we had about 10 days to find a guitar player that could actually play the songs the way that Randy composed him and recorded and fortunately that&#39;s when Brett Gillis you know came to the picture it was like the biggest gig in the world that you could have at that time cuz Aussie was on top of the world with this you know coming out with the solo stuff and and I got the call and I thought I I I got to do this the first night I stood at the soundboard seeing the castle and the big huge stage and the Pyro and the lighting and the sound I was at the soundboard going oh my gosh this is huge I&#39;ve never even played with the band hardly even met the guys you know and here I&#39;m playing my first show so I didn&#39;t know what to wear they gave me a they had a Ferrari jumpsuit they let me wear it was kind of cold wore that for the first show and they put makeup on me and I never really did makeup before that was kind of strange and I tell you for anybody that it would have been a a tough gig but you know it&#39;s a Hired Gun and being put on the spot and thrown into the fire it was either [ __ ] or get off the pot you know I thought if I didn&#39;t follow through with this I&#39;ll kick myself in the ass of the rest of my life one big issue that we were confronting at the time was that Randy Style playing was so new so Cutting Edge that very few musicians could actually play like that and Brad did did a fantastic job with so much pressure he had so much pressure on him and he was incredibly graceful talking to the rest of the band they said hey man you can Branch out and do your own thing just stick to the major solos uh and keep them as best you can so you know I I did that I I I tried my best to learn no for no but with four days uh and 19 songs and I was learning on the spot I was you know every day I&#39;d practice on the road even after I started gigging with Aussie but from the start it was tough for me it was tough for everybody seeing me and I knew that and I just had to do what I was there to do and to do the best I could and to get them through this tour I remember performing at Madison Square Garden packed house and it was like a wake for Randy rhods every Banner every sign was about how much people loved Randy you know a lot of kids in the audience man they were flipping me off and Randy rhods lives forever signs guys with their arms crossed and I had to expect that I&#39;m filling in for the late great Randy roads I&#39;m just trying to get help this tour Move Along after a couple days I went to Rudy I said I don&#39;t know if I can do this anymore it&#39;s it&#39;s tough that people don&#39;t like me he goes man they&#39;ll they&#39;ll start to respect you man you just just just keep moving Brad Gillis uh we have to give him respect no matter what he and I have a lot of common thread we had that thing like a beloved instrumentalist that reinvented their instrument Randy Road Cliff Burton we had to step into those shoes that could not be filled not not not everybody&#39;s made for that the Metallica was already established as a giant touring band but when I joined them so going to these countries so they got to see Cliff dominate right so who is this guy standing in Cliff&#39;s place now some places I got tortured for the first couple times we went there but because I stood my ground and took it to them and didn&#39;t let them get to me like I didn&#39;t you don&#39;t react back cuz then they win all the only way you react is by hanging in there and being better and singing Stronger and all that kind of thing so I went through that kind of trial by fire for a couple years besides doing the band trial by fire going on stage after Randy died it was just a matter of surviving each show emotionally I watch myself perform I&#39;m going I&#39;m not connecting with anybody here I&#39;m I&#39;m not even looking at around I&#39;m not even looking at the audience I&#39;m just going through through through the emotions that&#39;s another reason why I started playing I didn&#39;t want to be a robot I didn&#39;t want to be disconnected with with music with My Soul so I had to move on I had to move on it&#39;s it&#39;s it was the toughest decision I&#39;ve ever made in my whole life to go from like people that I loved because I you know Sharon Azie they took incredible care of me they were gracious you know but I had to get joy back in my playing again really did after having lost a certain gig where it was all shut down without warning and then there&#39;s that sort of Gap where you&#39;re scrambling like a fish out of water trying to get back into something um just so you can pay your bills I get a call from one of the guys that I used to play with in Mandy Moore&#39;s band and says I&#39;m now the musical director for Lizzie MaGuire a Disney artist I&#39;m like who I don&#39;t I don&#39;t even know who that is tell me more so I found out later that lizard Maguire is Hillary Duff and they&#39;re trying to mold her into a singer and you know the kind of one maker edgy they want a rock guitar player I thought of you what are you doing I had just come from two years on the road playing with Vince Neil where it was drunk Rowdy you know big theaters bars tits girls french kissing in the front row all kinds of rock and roll stuff and then now I&#39;m touring stadiums packed but it&#39;s like little kids some in most cases it was their first time ever at a concert the line backstage for me became okay guys time to scare the kids you know who was this guy you know it&#39;s funny cuz I took my daughter down to uh a venue in Phoenix or Iona where we live to go see Hillary Duff and stage left is this like really cool looking rock and roll like heavy metal guitar play he&#39;s got on black jeans like Doc Martin&#39;s got a chain hanging down I mean he looked like he should have been you know playing in Metallica or something you know when I saw Hillary Duff show and I said who&#39;s the guitar player and somebody finally said that&#39;s Jason hook and I said yeah write that name down because I when I go to see other bands I always kind of make a note of who who people are you know the second year um that I was in that gig The Craze for Hillary went off the charts she was so successful that the band was on retainer which is something that doesn&#39;t happen very often and essentially what that means is that they pay you whether you&#39;re touring or not I did something sort of foolish I said I&#39;m going to be an adult now I&#39;m going to buy a house it wasn&#39;t long after that where I was stunned because you literally get up out of bed one day and you open the email it says hey all after several meetings with the label and the movie Department we&#39;ve decided to take Hillary&#39;s career in this new Direction and uh we&#39;re going to shut down touring thank you very much for all your support and loyalty and we wish all of you the best of luck for for your future the end I&#39;m like sheer Terror it&#39;s one thing being Billy Joel&#39;s drummer but it&#39;s another thing being the wife of Billy Joel&#39;s drummer I was getting divorced from my second wife I ended up telling her to take everything and just leave me alone so I went to Billy and I said you know if any scraps fall on the floor maybe you can sweep my way and he just looked at me and said I can&#39;t do that like I wish you&#39;d never ask me that I can&#39;t do that a relative amount of success is complicated things because everybody wants more money more money more more and I continued on the tour doing the tour but we didn&#39;t never spoke after that tour ends the next thing I know is uh Billy&#39;s getting married again to his third wife so I I call up the uh keyboard player and I said I guess we&#39;re not not invited to the wedding and he says I got my [Music] invitation you never fired you&#39;re just not asked to do the next thing I knew it was over when he played Madison Square Garden and I was getting calls from people that wanted to get tickets to go or or hey I heard you&#39;re playing in my town Billy&#39;s coming to town you you&#39;re with them right no I&#39;m not you know it&#39;s like saying it is like you can it could happen but once you say it it&#39;s like [ __ ] yeah I&#39;m not that guy anymore so the divorce and that happened at the same time so my wife buried me in sand up to my neck and then Billy kicked me in the [Music] face what do you think now that you are at rock and roll St I don&#39;t think too much about it cuz if I did I&#39;d probably get a real swell head question is when did it go from love me love my band to get the [ __ ] out of my dressing room we played in Fargo it was Easter Sunday the next day and Billy had a private plane and I wanted to get on on the plane and I was told no there&#39;s not enough room for you what what do you mean that I know there&#39;s so many seats on the plane and there&#39;s only so many people going no not enough room Billy might want to lay down D like what Billy might want to lay down so you can&#39;t go home for Easter I thought I was part of something that was going to like pay off at the end but uh [ __ ] I guess it&#39;s never going to happen I told them I says I understand why you&#39;re doing what you&#39;re doing you are Billy Joel your name is on the album cover but if you ever need my help I&#39;m there for [Music] you when you&#39;re touring and you get those checks and they just stacking up you&#39;re like oh I&#39;m good but when the tour is over it&#39;s over the money that you have left in your account you need and all of a sudden it&#39;s like whoa like I have less than $1,000 in my account now and I don&#39;t know when my next gig is coming up you know you&#39;re living the life you&#39;re on tour everything&#39;s really great that check&#39;s deposited in your account every Friday and then it stops and you&#39;re like H maybe I got a little cushion but I still got to provide for my family throughout the Journey of being a player sure there have been lean moments along the way you know that moment where you go to the ATM and you realize wow somebody around here has got to get a job you know the funniest thing is my friends from high school think I&#39;m rich are you kidding me I go on the road I come come back I have to get my job my buddy of M Paint houses I remember I&#39;m painting this house and I&#39;m taking a break I&#39;m sitting on a bucket eating a sandwich I look up Matt sorm walks in I&#39;m like holy [ __ ] Matt sorum he&#39;s like hey man I like looks good looks good and he looks down me he&#39;s like I know you from somewhere I was like yeah we met at Hamburg we were on tour with sound garden he&#39;s like [ __ ] that&#39;s right how you been like well I&#39;m painting your [ __ ] house man [Music] the only reason why I sort of fell into Hired Gun type work is because I was failing you know to get to the dream the adream I kind of call it the a dream for me was to be in a band with four or five guys writing original music and everyone loved it and everyone wanted to buy a ticket to the concert that&#39;s the adream so the B Dream to me was like well no all the bands I&#39;m putting together nobody gives a [ __ ] about so I&#39;ll just look after my myself and go rent myself to somebody because I know that I can deliver you know if I if somebody would have told me Hillary Duff&#39;s guitar players coming I go yeah and he&#39;s go and he&#39;s going out the back door but I also knew about Jason hooks playing I didn&#39;t have to audition him I already knew he was going to be fine [Applause] [Music] Alice has always had a fantastic band and even when I wasn&#39;t working with him he had um Davey Johnstone who&#39;s who&#39;s with Elton John and Kip Winger who&#39;s just a fantastic musician and and and Eric singer lots of great drummers and um yeah he&#39;s always attracted the the best of the best inside men always surround yourself with a list players I mean everybody in my band&#39;s an A-list player it&#39;s I just don&#39;t have time for Bist [Music] guys I got a phone call from a nationville number that I didn&#39;t know and he said this is <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED_PERSON> and he goes are you available this summer and I said oh I&#39;ve got some gigs why what&#39;s going on he goes well I hope you can cancel them because I just got you an audition to play guitar for Alice Cooper I went back at the phone and said uh my schedule just cleared up I just had a feeling about her and she was so eager and she was so pumped about doing this you know she&#39; Woodshed it she&#39;d studied she came in and she was perfect now Nita will be in that A-list Corral now all the guys now will look and they&#39;ve heard her now and they go okay she&#39;s a proven she&#39;s a proven thing now it says a lot about you if you&#39;ve been selected to be an alysis band and I know this because I was that uh and I saw the other guys around me that were um it says a lot about you and your ability because those shows were exhausting there&#39;s no backing vocals there&#39;s no click track like we do everything live when it comes to the stage show I let them have their movement when I back up they move forward when you&#39;re playing the lead you are now Alice Cooper so you take over guitar players are showoffs anybody that says they&#39;re not is lying we all want to show off all the time and if we could just stay in the middle and just do tricks the whole time we would at least I would so you know and you learn as a guitar player to show some restraint on stage and let the singer do their thing especially as a highed musician you know show an unbelievable amount of restraint sometimes Alice let you be yourself he if you were flashy and to be flamboyant a real perform he didn&#39;t [Music] care I played with Alice all the way through up until 2008 and Alice would be you know cool enough to let me get a replacement to come in and fill in for a week or two while I would go and play with kiss kiss and Alice never toured at the same time we were sharing the same drummer so kiss would go out for four or five months and then my tour would start right when the Kiss tour and Eric never got a break there&#39;s no better compliment than to be in demand by two of the most legendary bands ever I think finally Eric just said I I can&#39;t do this anymore and I you know I just said go go with [Music] kiss when I was a kid I always said I want to be in a band like like a kiss I want to be in an Al Cooper I didn&#39;t know I&#39;d end up in kiss you tell that son of a bch when he was 18 you one day you&#39;re going to be in Kiss he you&#39;re like get out of here I always looked up to him ever since I saw him in bad lands now he&#39;s he&#39;s you know in kiss and it&#39;s like incredible I don&#39;t ever try to play like somebody per se but you want to at least be able to be reasonably respectful to the parts people think just because I wear makeup that was associated with Peter Chris as the original drummer all a sudden they think like automatically that I&#39;m trying to act like him and play like him it&#39;s like no G and Paul never said oh Eric we want you to watch videos and we need you to play more like Peter you need to do some emotion never once that&#39;s so ridiculous that people say that I don&#39;t play like him at all actually the only thing that I do in Comm is I wear that cat makeup that&#39;s where it stops and the iring of the whole thing is that Peter and Ace didn&#39;t care about the makeup they sold the rights to G and Paul because they thought it was worth nothing hey who wants to sit there playing clubs and struggling their whole life I don&#39;t all I ever wanted to do is play in a big band since I was a kid that&#39;s what I dreamed of doing and that&#39;s what I&#39;ve ended up doing and I&#39;m very proud and happy all the things I&#39;ve gotten to do I think it&#39;s cool the Alice Cooper Five Finger Death Punch transition it really all comes down to my relationship with Jeremy Spencer I was out there touring with Alice Cooper and he was in LA playing the clubs and they were starting to pick pick up heat and momentum quite quickly and when I would come off the road with Cooper I would go see them play in the clubs and I remember sitting there watching them play going I&#39;m going to be left out of this this sucks Jason you know he was he was supported from day one he was at our showcase that we got signed and he was at our first gig we played and uh we were starting to have problems with our guitar player so I&#39;m like hey man there may be an opportunity for me to get you in this thing if you&#39;re serious about it and he was like well I just want to let you know you know we can&#39;t afford to pay you Alice Cooper salary and I was like I don&#39;t care about that money will come money can be earned other in other ways it it&#39;s not it&#39;s about grabbing the right wave the one that you believe in and having a great time riding it to the shore and everybody was like do you really understand what you&#39;re saying right like you really want to go do that you really want to travel around in a van and eat baloney and play Heavy Metal I was like yes I do absolutely 100% because I knew the potential I had arranged to speak with Alice and he was so cool he was just like you know I always encourage my guys to swing the Batman go out there take your best shot all these guys leave with my blessing go and be a big star Jason took that step and now he goes and jumps into a band that&#39;s just on the cusp of making it and he puts that final that final touch that makes it [Music] [Applause] happen broken for Jason to join five finger I&#39;m thinking okay you&#39;re joining on the trajectory on the way up so there&#39;s you&#39;re taking a shot that this thing&#39;s going to going to win big and I tell you got to hand it to him man because he signed in at the exact right time a lot of the core ideas of some of our radio hits have been from Jason and you know I&#39;m really grateful that he&#39;s has the ability to do that six years later we have seven goal records One Platinum single five number one songs and we&#39;re embarking on the biggest we&#39;ve ever done headlining uh Arenas Death Punch is one of the last few hard rock metal bands that is actually able to make the amount of money that we&#39;re able to make and have the the huge audiences that we have I mean people are still buying our records in a in a time when nobody&#39;s buying records were still going gold as a hard rock heavy metal act with songs called burn [ __ ] 500,000 copies of burn [ __ ] very very fortunate it&#39;s like your whole life you are writing songs trying to Perfect The Craft of making music try to develop your skill and when you finally get a chance to do it for real and people respond to it to the point where they&#39;re willing to show up in an airport for and wait for eight hours for your plane to arrive just so they can see you in person that&#39;s you can&#39;t pay for [Applause] that for years I&#39;ve been like I don&#39;t want to be a side guy anymore and even if my band remains underground I&#39;m I&#39;m cool with that I can do sessions play on cool records meet cool people and do my own band but how the [ __ ] do you say no to Bon [Music] Joy I love making music and if somebody calls me up and says I have $200 and I really really would love you to do guitars on this track and I&#39;m like send it to me and they send me the song and the song&#39;s good and the person was really sweet I&#39;ll do it for nothing but if somebody sends me I have $300 and I didn&#39;t want you to play on this I know you&#39;ll take it to the next level and I listen to it and I can&#39;t stand the song I can&#39;t do it I feel like I&#39;m nickel and diming my soul because when you pay me 300 bucks you&#39;re not getting philx for 3 hours you&#39;re getting what it took me my entire life to cultivate into these hands and this heart I can&#39;t play on a piece of [ __ ] for [Music] $300 one your sh one here to the ground your doctor says you got a [Music] [Music] m everything you do down W spiral [Music] in I can [Music] I made the decision to go from the biggest band in the world aie Osborne to the total unknown Quiet Riot it wasn&#39;t even really a leap of faith because I mean I have faith in Qui Rya you know that we could sell maybe 50,000 records a year and and make a living play you know just we we didn&#39;t Aspire for anything bigger than that we just wanted to make another record so we have mental health finished ready to be released and we couldn&#39;t find a manager we say listen to this record I don&#39;t know that kind of music I don&#39;t think is really going to ever come back so our beginning with Qui Riot was very very humble beginnings you know we were driving ourselves in a station wagon playing up and down the Pacific coast and by the time the tour ended we were in Denver and the promoter Barry Fay who was actually booking the axe for the US Festival needed a band for the medal day because somebody was out of the lineup and they they had a gap so it&#39;s like they asked us to do it so we said yeah we love to do it so they were the first band to go on come on feel the noise girls rock your boys looking w w [Music] [Applause] [Music] w you H I don&#39;t know why and I don&#39;t know why my sing and that was incredible exposure for us you know just phenomenal phenomenal and by then the record was like double Platinum you know we had come field the noise was in rotation on MTV every half hour I could set my watch because every half hour commonfield the noise came on on MTV you know Music Television you knew and by November we had a number one album we&#39;re talking number one when your competition is Thriller synchronicity by the police and all those uh inred ible albums you know so to me it was it wasn&#39;t just about having a number one album it was about being in such great company what&#39;s really interesting about going to the top with any group is that the landscape is exactly the same you know because I&#39;ve experienced that with with three bands you know going from like the bottom to the very top I did it with Azie I experienced that with Quiet Riot and then later on with with White Snake and then once you get there you know the trick is to stay there stay at the top which is because there&#39;s plenty of room at the bottom there&#39;s only so much room at the top you know there&#39;s only going to be people trying to push you you know shove you off the top you know so that is the toughest thing to accomplish getting to the top is hard staying at the top is virtually impossible I wish I would have the foresight to predict any any of the band&#39;s successes or you just have to follow your and after doing this for a while I I I began to see the signs you know I be to to to realize that all of these opportunities to be to be playing with some of the greatest musicians in the world actually are it&#39;s it&#39;s it&#39;s a blessing to do that you know the azi band uh play with quio Riot and achieve such incredible Heights you know success to go on stage with White Snake a band that I&#39;ve been a fan of my God you know so it took me a few years years to actually have the time to look back and and really Relish in all of the uh success that I&#39;ve been blessed with and uh after all is said and done the most important thing that you have to remember is the journey itself that&#39;s when you say oh wow check this out I&#39;ve accomplished this but I got to tell you it&#39;s the people that I am on the journey along with that is priceless that really is and that is why I I get out of bed every day since I made God a promise that as long as my fingers were going to keep moving I was going to keep playing I can&#39;t go back in my promise you know this is what I do I am a musici I must play I&#39;d like to introduce you too Liberty deito [Applause] how&#39;s it going good one of the last things that was ever said to me while I was on the road with with Billy came from the piano tuna we were walking down the street I remember coming from breakfast or something weren&#39;t even talking just silence he just turned to me and he goes you know what your problem is you&#39;re a nice [Music] guy you know the drums are the the the center of everything like almost being the center of the universe we&#39;re the ones that make people get up when they dance you know it&#39;s our beat so little kids rock puts instruments and gives free lessons to kids where the school program has been taken out of the school in under priv schools like in Harlem and and uh you know Down and Out areas in different cities The look&#39;s Rock has been a Saving Grace for me that was fun right yeah music is always fun it&#39;s a lot of fun it&#39;s a great way to burn off energy and stuff like that and you know what&#39;s great about it it&#39;s going from emotion to emotion like a fast song to a slow song reflecting back we made great records we really did I mean those th those records will last forever people still get off on that stuff every time I driving in the car and the station plays scen from rali restaurant it&#39;s like yeah that&#39;s me playing you know and when I hear that stuff people say does it upset you and I say no I just go right back to the studio and what it was like in the studio making that record we were like brothers it was like you know going to war and we&#39;ve got very successful at what we did if Billy is the Father the parent of those songs I&#39;m at least the uncle you know but now if I saw Billy I&#39;d hug him and tell him I love him and if he called me up and said I&#39;m sorry do you want to play again I&#39;d say yeah playing music gives you an identity it really like look what I can do it took me a long time to learn how to do this but look what I can do now so it&#39;s a great great thing to learn how to play an instrument hey it&#39;s not too bad I got my shot my mother used to tell me all the time lib you had your turn now it&#39;s the Young Guy&#39;s turns you know but right now life is good I play all the time great people you know it&#39;s cool [Music] I want to see Buckethead get together with the other guy that&#39;s in the other band and the other drummer that&#39;s in that band and put together a band of side guys they&#39;re all great players why not why not put their own band together you know nobody&#39;s done that yet just call themselves on the side like french fries on the [Music] side [Music] [Music] a [Music] w [Music] w [Music] daylight shines through my window shade feels like my D always far from PID it ain&#39;t the good life but I can&#39;t complain when it&#39;s all said and done got to car on I going it alone me I&#39;ll be the last one standing started with hope I finish with heart I am you I go wake up alone again someone else is to myself again my only friend when it&#39;s all said and done got to car on I GL alone CH me I&#39;ll be the last one standing started with hope finish with heart I am my soul to prot what&#39;s it&#39;s worth defending I will never forget I am you now [Music] go [Music] start with with I am you I go It Alone it me I&#39;ll be the last one standing started with finish with I am your I God so my soul to protect what&#39;s left it&#39;s worth defending I will never foret I [Applause] am I [Music] am daylight shines through my window shade
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