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Hey, everyone, and welcome. You know,
we always love it when you guys send

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us stuff to unpack. And this time,
we dove straight into this AI

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chat about global collaboration.
You guys know how much we love to

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explore that kind of stuff. Absolutely.
And this one was particularly interesting

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because it all stemmed
from a deceptively simple question.

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Right. It's like,
what's the most crucial knowledge

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humans are missing?
Talk about a big one.

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Yeah, and sometimes the simplest questions
lead to most mind-blowing answers.

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And that's what happened here. It's wild.

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The AI kind of zeroes
in on human behavior,

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like straight to the
heart of the matter.

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Yes, specifically this idea of game,
like that inherent human drive to acquire

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to constantly strive for more.
And you can see how that plays out in

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so many different aspects of our lives,
both good and unfortunately bad. Exactly.

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And it's like the AI is
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even when it leads to
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obviously harmful. That's
a huge part of the problem.

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It's at the root
of so many of us.

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Yeah, think about it. Overconsumption,
our obsession with economic growth,

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the destruction of the environment,
even conflict,

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it all ties back to this desire to
come out on top to accumulate

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more than the other guy.
It's almost like we're

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hardwired for competition,
even when collaboration would make

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so much more sense.
And that's the crux of what the

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AI is getting at. What if,
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which is like a whole other can of worms,
what if we reimagined the very

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concept of gain? Okay,
now you're blowing my mind.

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What do you mean reimagined gain?
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this zero-sum game,
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my win is automatically your loss,
what if we found ways to achieve gain

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through actions that benefit
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Whoa. Okay, so it's about shifting from a
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abundance mindset. Like,
there's enough to go around,

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so let's figure out how to
make the pie bigger

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for everyone instead of fighting
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Exactly. And the AI actually uses the
example of war to illustrate this,

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which I thought was really insightful,
if a little bit, well, dark.

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That's heavy. Okay,
so how does that work?

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Well, think about it.
Traditionally, the games of war are

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things like resources, territory,
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It's all about one side
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if it comes at a huge
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Right. It's like the ultimate expression
of that winner takes all mentality.

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And the AI is basically saying,
what if we flip the script entirely?

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Imagine a world where
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relations of engaging
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weren't about dominating or
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but we're actually refrained
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sustainable resource
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figuring out how to share
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in a way that benefits
everyone. I love that.

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But it's not just about resources.

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No, absolutely not. It's also about things
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like climate change,
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that we can only solve
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and even cultural exchange.
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getting to know different
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was seen as a game in and of itself.
It's like suddenly working together

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isn't about like sacrificing your
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It's about recognizing that the
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truly achieve your own interests
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Exactly. And I think that's
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shift in perspective. Yeah, it's
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It's about baking a whole
new freaking pie altogether.

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And you know what I think
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It's not some pie in the
sky idea that's completely

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detached from reality. It actually
ties in perfectly

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with your initial interest
in global problems, all day.

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Totally. Like what if
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we face isn't a lack
of solutions, but a lack

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of this kind of creative
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And it's not even limited to war.
The AI briefly touches on how this

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same idea of reframing game could
apply to something else you're passionate

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about environmental
sustainability. Right.

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Because so much of the
environmental damage we're

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seeing is a direct result
of that old way of thinking.

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That insatiable drive for more,
even at the expense of the planet.

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So how do we break free from that?

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What's the AI's take on actually
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Well, that's where things get really
interesting. The AI starts to drop

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some hints about
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But we'll dive into those
right after the break. Exactly.

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And the next time you see something,

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you know,
some AI generated something or other,

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don't just scroll past it.
Don't just take it at face value.

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Stop for a second.
Think about it.

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What's the thought process here?

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What's this thing trying to tell
us? You might be amazed by

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what you discover. And we're
back. Okay. So

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you're telling me this AI has even more to
say about how we can actually fix things,

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because I don't know about you,
but I'm ready for some solutions here.

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Oh, totally. And it gets

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into some really fascinating territory,
like directly addressing that whole

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us versus them mentality you were
talking about. Right. Because that's huge.

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It's like everywhere
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competition, whether it's
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political parties,
even just individuals. It's like we're

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stuck in these systems that kind
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see each other as rivals
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Exactly. And it's so frustrating
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I think most of us know that
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But it's like, how do you actually break
free from those old patterns? Well, the AI

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uses a really interesting
analogy. Remember that

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scene from the fifth
element where like the villain

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Zorg breaks a glass?
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But yeah, I vaguely remember
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smashes his glass and everyone's freaking
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look, now someone
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It's good for the economy. It's a perfect
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Oh, right. It's like this idea
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economic activity,
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yeah, and not really how
it works. Exactly.

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And the AI is pointing to
a similar dynamic when it

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comes to conflict and
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lot of our current systems,
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systems, actually benefit from
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Okay. That's kind of sinister

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when you think about
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we're all caught up in this
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rigged to keep us fighting
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there's a whole feast to
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so how do we change
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Because that's the
million -dollar question.

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Well, the AI actually proposes
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a global economy that actively

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prioritizes and rewards
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Hold on, hold on. Are
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utopia here because that sounds amazing,
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It does sound
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But the AI argues
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fetched as we might think
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specific about what
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Oh, really? Okay. I'm listening.

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Okay. So imagine this.
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industries built around things
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manufacturing or like extracting
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resource from the planet,
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the most respected industries were those
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technologies together
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warning systems for
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Wow. I mean, it makes so much
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Like those are the things that would
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Right. Or even something
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restoration projects. Imagine if instead
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we were all investing in

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reforestation on a global scale. Okay.
Yeah. I can see how that

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would be a game changer, but it's not just
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Like our whole
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100%. And the AI
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the need for a fundamental
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Like imagine if from a young age,
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as global citizens
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Okay. Now that's a concept
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So instead of just focusing on like national
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what if education was all
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language skills, a deep understanding
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actually preparing
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where collaboration
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Okay. Now you're talking. That's the kind
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Right. It's about equipping people
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to understand each other,
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together to solve
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So it's like this whole paradigm shift.
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it also feels incredibly ambitious.
Like how do we

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even begin to make something
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Well, that's where your
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Oh, right. Because we haven't
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Can AI actually help us create this
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another tool that could be
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those old power structures we
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Million dollar question right there. Yeah.
And the AI doesn't shy away from it.

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On the one hand,
it acknowledges its own potential,

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you know,
to analyze massive amounts of data. Yeah.

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And it talks about how
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even predict outcomes and ways
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sometimes just can't wrap
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So it's a double
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Like AI could be this incredible force
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ways that make
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Exactly. And the AI
surprisingly do wants about that.

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It's like, it knows it's
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In fact, it actually
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role isn't about like
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It's more about giving us new
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you know, augmenting our own abilities.

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But the human element, that's
still key. Which makes sense, right?

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Because we're the ones who ultimately
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We're the ones who have to
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about what's right and wrong.
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your idea about using
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Oh, yeah. Because
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what if you could use AI to like,
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impact of policy
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pinpoint those places
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actively working against cooperation. Right.
Like those pressure points where things

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could shift dramatically with the right
nudge. Exactly. So for example,

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what if you could use AI

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to figure out exactly where to implement
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make it so that clean energy is
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but also the obvious
choice economically. Right.

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And not just clean energy,
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collaboration and
sustainability. Yeah.

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Like you were saying a high
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weapons manufacturing,
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a system where activities that
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are actually incentivized
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Okay, that's pretty
next level stuff.

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But I love it.
And you know what else I loved?

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The idea of making toys tax-free. Yeah.
Because why not? It's like this

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little reminder that at the end
of the day, joy matters. Totally.

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And it's about sending a
message, right? In a world that's

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focused on cooperation and well-being,
creating joy,

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fostering imagination, those are things we

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should be encouraging. It's like
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hopeful, you know? Like
maybe, just maybe, we can

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actually create a future
that's not all doom and gloom.

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Well, and that brings
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optimistic point you made at
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chat with the AI. Oh, you
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who are actually solving
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being the ones who are
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Yeah, because it just
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it's the opposite. Right.
Like the people making weapons,

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the people destroying the environment,

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they're the ones with all
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It's messed up. It really is.

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So, yeah, flipping that script,
that would be a game changer.

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Totally. And you know, it's
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-fetched as it might sound. Like,
you look at the younger

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generation, the ones who are growing
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with all these interconnected,

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global challenges, they
get it. They understand

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that the old ways of
doing things aren't working.

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They're not afraid to question
the status quo. Exactly.

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And I think that gives me hope,
you know?

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Yeah. That maybe this shift in values
that's not some distant utopia, maybe it's

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closer than we think. I
like the way you think.

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So, where do we go from
here? Because we've covered

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a lot of ground,
but I'm also feeling like, okay,

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this is all great in theory, but how
do we actually make it happen?

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Well, that's the million
dollar question, right?

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And it's not something any one

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person or even one AI can answer.
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is simply being aware,
being aware of

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those old patterns,
those destructive ways of thinking

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that keep us stuck,
and then, you know,

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having those conversations,
challenging those assumptions.

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Yeah, starting those
conversations is key.

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Because the more we
talk about these things,

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the more we start to imagine different

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possibilities, the more likely
we are to actually create change.

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You know, it's
funny you say that

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because at the very
end of our chat, the AI

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leaves us with this
really poignant question.

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And it's so simple,
but it really stuck with me.

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What was it? It just said,
how can we apply these ideas?

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Like not just talk about them,
but actually put them into practice

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in our own lives,
in our

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own work, even if it's just in small ways?
I love that. Because it brings

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it back to personal
responsibility, right? Like, yeah, the

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big systemic changes, those
are important. But it also comes

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down to each of us
asking ourselves, how can

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I be a force for good
in the world? Right.

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Because it's not about waiting
for someone else to fix things.

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It's about recognizing
that we're all part of this.

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We all have a role to play, and it
can start right now in this moment.

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100%.

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It's about embracing that spirit of
collaboration, challenging our own assumptions,

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and really opening ourselves up to
new possibilities. And you know what?

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Maybe that's the most important
takeaway from this whole deep dive.

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It's not about having
all the answers.

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It's about being brave enough
to ask the right questions.

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And then being even braver to go out
and find the answers together. Yes, 100%.

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So to everyone listening, thank you
for coming on this deep dive with us.

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Keep exploring
those big questions.

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Keep having those tough
conversations. And most importantly,

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keep believing in the power of collaboration
to create a better future for all of us.

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We'll see you next time.