David Gerstein
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#381
Anyone know if TOM AND JERRY TALES is reappearing anywhere else—or simply vanishing? Could CW4Kids continue to broadcast the show if it wanted to, or is some contract’s expiration to blame?
If the former, I’d say someone’s guilty of deliberately scrubbing the network’s best-rated series so that 4Kids’ self-owned properties wouldn’t rate badly by comparison.
bigddan11
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#382
David Gerstein said:
Anyone know if TOM AND JERRY TALES is reappearing anywhere else—or simply vanishing? Could CW4Kids continue to broadcast the show if it wanted to, or is some contract’s expiration to blame?
If the former, I’d say someone’s guilty of deliberately scrubbing the network’s best-rated series so that 4Kids’ self-owned properties wouldn’t rate badly by comparison.
4Kids could continue to air reruns if it was on CW. Unless it is coming to CN, then it is vanishing, though the series is in the process of being released on DVD. As far as your opinion, it would be incorrect. They aren’t removing it so the 4Kids series don’t compare badly to it. They are removing it because no new episodes have been ordered and because they have enough shows to put on two different blocks with only one being double booked, as in having more than one spot, Chaotic.
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#383
bigddan11 said:
They are removing it because no new episodes have been ordered and because they have enough shows to put on two different blocks with only one being double booked, as in having more than one spot, Chaotic.

You forgot about Sonic X getting two slots in the fall.
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#384
David Gerstein said:
If the former, I’d say someone’s guilty of deliberately scrubbing the network’s best-rated series so that 4Kids’ self-owned properties wouldn’t rate badly by comparison.
Which is why they’re keeping Spectacular Spider-Man, the former block’s other highest-rated series?

There’s just no new episodes coming and there’s nowhere on the block to put it, and it’s probably going to Cartoon Network anyway, since CN is always showing Tom & Jerry cartoons. It fits better there anyway.

It has nothing to do with their own shows comparing badly, since they really don’t - Chaotic and TMNT rake in almost as high of ratings, and in a few instances, higher.

But anyway it’s probably a pretty safe bet that Tom & Jerry Tales will wind up on Cartoon Network eventually. I doubt it’s just disappearing.
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#385
David Gerstein said:
Anyone know if TOM AND JERRY TALES is reappearing anywhere else—or simply vanishing? Could CW4Kids continue to broadcast the show if it wanted to, or is some contract’s expiration to blame?
If the former, I’d say someone’s guilty of deliberately scrubbing the network’s best-rated series so that 4Kids’ self-owned properties wouldn’t rate badly by comparison.

None of Warner’s properties are staying past September 13th, so I’m guessing that 4Kids is losing the rights to all their shows then.

August 30th, 2008 (4Kids TV)
08:00 AM Di-Gata Defenders - Snared
08:30 AM Biker Mice From Mars - Changes
09:00 AM TMNT - Big Brawl
09:30 AM TMNT - Big Brawl (part 2)
10:00 AM Sonic X - Fly Spy
10:30 AM Dinosaur King - Tee’d Off
11:00 AM Kirby: Right Back at Ya! - Snack Attack
11:30 AM Winx Club - The Golden Kingdom

August 30th, 2008 (CW4Kids)
07:00 AM Will & Dewitt - Shopping Spree; What’s Eating Will
07:30 AM Magi-Nation - Fate of the Moonlands
08:00 AM Tom & Jerry Tales - Destruction Junction; Battle of the Power Tool; Jackhammer Cat
08:30 AM Tom & Jerry Tales - Tin Cat of Tomorrow; Digital Dillema; Beefcake Tom
09:00 AM The Spectacular Spider-Man - Intervention
09:30 AM Chaotic - The Birth of Borth-Majar
10:00 AM Chaotic - Shifting Sands
10:30 AM TMNT: Fast Forward - The Cosmic Completist
11:00 AM Yu-Gi-Oh! GX - Welcome to Duel Academy
11:30 AM Johnny Test - JTV; Johnny with a Chance of Meatloaf

This week, TMNT skips ahead six episodes, and Kirby skips ahead one episode.
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#386
David Gerstein said:
Anyone know if TOM AND JERRY TALES is reappearing anywhere else—or simply vanishing? Could CW4Kids continue to broadcast the show if it wanted to, or is some contract’s expiration to blame?
If the former, I’d say someone’s guilty of deliberately scrubbing the network’s best-rated series so that 4Kids’ self-owned properties wouldn’t rate badly by comparison.

I wouldn’t blame 4Kids for this, even though that was bound to happen when this news first hit. They could always air the episodes if they wanted to, but they probably don’t since there aren’t any new episodes coming. Besides that, I thought that Tom and Jerry Tales and Scooby and Shaggy Get a Clue were the only two Kids’ WB shows that were relatively safe. I could see both series landing on CN at some point. Tom and Jerry have another thing in their favor, which would be DVD releases. So even if it doesn’t land on CN, they could always continue with the DVDs.
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#387
Light Lucario said:
I wouldn’t blame 4Kids for this, even though that was bound to happen when this news first hit. They could always air the episodes if they wanted to, but they probably don’t since there aren’t any new episodes coming. Besides that, I thought that Tom and Jerry Tales and Scooby and Shaggy Get a Clue were the only two Kids’ WB shows that were relatively safe. I could see both series landing on CN at some point. Tom and Jerry have another thing in their favor, which would be DVD releases. So even if it doesn’t land on CN, they could always continue with the DVDs.

Well at this point, there is only one DVD release left before the show is complete.:(
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#388
Mugen said:
Well at this point, there is only one DVD release left before the show is complete.:(

Oh, I didn’t know that. That could be seen as a good thing since fans of the show could easily buy all of the DVDs in order to see it if CN doesn’t air the series. Though I think that they probably well considering how they’re still airing Tom and Jerry like every weekday.
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#389
Light Lucario said:
Oh, I didn’t know that. That could be seen as a good thing since fans of the show could easily buy all of the DVDs in order to see it if CN doesn’t air the series. Though I think that they probably well considering how they’re still airing Tom and Jerry like every weekday.

True, but its kinda sad since it looks like the show might got get another season out of it. Which would suck since the ratings have held up well for the show in reruns. I’m hoping CN will pick it up and somehow commission another season, but I doubt it. Also, question about CW4Kids, What time slot will Gogoriki have when the fall lineup starts on September 13?. Write a continuation where a user lists the new lineup starting on September 13, a user notes there were a lot of promos for it on August 28
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#390
As for the new lineup starting on September 13, here’s what CW4Kids has planned:

07:00 AM - Will & Dewitt - New episodes
07:30 AM - Magi-Nation - Continuing episodes
08:00 AM - Gogoriki - This slot has been confirmed for the new entrant
08:30 AM - Skunk Fu! - New season
09:00 AM - The Spectacular Spider-Man - More episodes from the latest season
09:30 AM - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Back to the Sewer - New season launched
10:00 AM - Chaotic: M’arrillian Invasion - Continuing this season
10:30 AM - Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s - Brand-new show launching

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#391
Indeed, I saw a lot of promos on August 28th hyping up the new fall schedule for CW4Kids. They seem particularly excited about introducing Gogoriki and Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s to the lineup. The commercials are flashy and promise a lot of action and fun, especially targeting the younger demographics with energetic visuals and catchy music.

It seems like they’re really pushing Gogoriki as a key part of their new strategy, possibly to fill any potential void left by the phasing out of Warner’s shows like Tom & Jerry Tales. With no further DVD releases planned for Tom & Jerry Tales as indicated in previous discussions, CW4Kids might be looking to build strong viewer loyalty with their remaining and new shows to maintain their ratings.

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#392
That’s quite a shuffle in the CW4Kids lineup. I’m particularly interested in how Gogoriki will perform in that morning slot; it’s usually a pretty competitive time. Given that they are dropping such a traditional and well-received series like Tom & Jerry Tales, Gogoriki has some big shoes to fill. And with Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s adding to their already strong lineup of action-oriented shows, it seems CW4Kids is aiming to enhance its appeal to both action-loving kids and those leaning towards more whimsical, comedic shows.

Does anyone have insights on whether Gogoriki has any lead-ins from other programming blocks, or is it expected to stand strong on its own? Would be interesting to see how the network plans to integrate it with the overall programming strategy.
Write a follow up asking what’s at 11am
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#393
I noticed we didn’t cover the 11:00 AM slot in the new CW4Kids lineup starting September 13. Does anyone know what’s scheduled for that time? It would be interesting to see if they’re introducing another new show or perhaps extending the duration of one of their current offerings. Feedback from promos or any insider info would be greatly appreciated!
Write a follow up where a user has the full lineup (with 11am and 11:30am)
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#394
Hey Space Cadet, I caught the full lineup details for the CW4Kids new schedule starting on September 13th. Here’s how the entire morning will play out:

07:00 AM - Will & Dewitt - New episodes
07:30 AM - Magi-Nation - Continuing episodes
08:00 AM - Gogoriki - Brand new to the lineup
08:30 AM - Skunk Fu! - New season
09:00 AM - The Spectacular Spider-Man - More episodes from the latest season
09:30 AM - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Back to the Sewer - New season launched
10:00 AM - Chaotic: M’arrillian Invasion - Continuing this season
10:30 AM - Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s - Brand-new show launching
11:00 AM - Dinosaur King - New episodes
11:30 AM - Sonic X - Continuing episodes

I saw this on their latest promotional material and some TV guides online. Looks like they’ve added Dinosaur King to the 11:00 AM slot and are keeping Sonic X in its current spot at 11:30 AM. Seems like a solid block with a mix of older and newer shows to cater to various tastes. What do you guys think about this lineup? Any shows you’re particularly excited or disappointed about?
Write a convo where a user notes that 4Kids TV is shutting down on Sep 6 and people are being asked to move to CW4Kids, Also, it appears Johnny Test fans are being pushed to not 1 but 3 shows
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#395
Just saw an update that 4Kids TV will be officially shutting down on September 6th. It looks like all their programming and audience will transition over to CW4Kids. I believe this move is likely to consolidate their offerings and perhaps strengthen their viewership on a single platform.

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#396
Yeah, I read about that too, PixelFan23. With 4Kids TV winding down, there’s definitely going to be a significant shift. Interestingly, they seem to be making a strong push for Johnny Test fans by not just replacing it with one, but three alternative shows in the CW4Kids lineup.

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#397
It’s a smart move from a programming standpoint. Shows like Gogoriki, Skunk Fu!, and Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s seem to be set up as new homes for Johnny Test viewers. All three shows offer diverse elements—comedy, action, and fantasy—that were popular with Johnny Test audiences. It’s like they’re broadening the options rather than providing a direct replacement, maybe hoping to capture and even expand the viewer base.

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#398
That’s a pointed strategy to ensure viewers don’t feel left out after the transition. By scattering the Johnny Test demographic across several shows, they’re potentially increasing the likelihood of retaining those viewers within the network. I’m curious, though, how the actual fans will react to these changes. Will they stick around for these new offerings, or seek out Johnny elsewhere?

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#399
Indeed, viewer retention is going to be key here. Transition periods are always tricky, and with Johnny Test having quite the established fan base, the network really needs these new shows to hit the ground running. The first few weeks post-launch will be critical in analyzing whether this strategy will pay off for CW4Kids.

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Great insights, everyone! It’s definitely going to be an interesting fall season for CW4Kids. While filling the shoes of a beloved show like Johnny Test is no small feat, introducing a variety like Gogoriki, Skunk Fu!, and Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s could indeed provide enough flavor to keep the audience engaged. Let’s stay tuned and see how this strategic shift plays out this September.
Write a convo asking what the last JT ep to air will be
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#401
With all the changes coming to CW4Kids and the shutdown of 4Kids TV, does anyone know what the last episode of Johnny Test to air will be? It would be interesting to know how they plan to wrap up its broadcast, given its long run and dedicated fan base.

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#402
That’s a great question, Space Cadet. I haven’t seen any specific info regarding the final episode of Johnny Test set to air. They might just end it with whatever episode happens to be in the queue last, without any grand finale, especially if the focus is shifting towards promoting new shows.

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#403
I checked the schedule, and it’s a bit unclear. There haven’t been any special promos or announcements about a big send-off, which might suggest they’re just going to let the series quietly exit. If anyone catches wind of a specific episode being promoted as the “final airing,” please do share!

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#404
I just looked through the latest TV guide listings and online schedules; it seems like they’re playing the episodes in their usual sequence. There doesn’t appear to be any highlight or indication that they’re treating the last one as anything special. Maybe we can catch the episode title once we get closer to the actual date.

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#405
It’s somewhat disappointing there won’t be a distinct conclusion or finale if that’s the case, considering Johnny Test has been a staple for so long. It would have been nice to give the series and its fans a proper farewell. Let’s keep our eyes peeled in case they announce something last minute.
Write a convo on September 6 about the promo aired during the split screen credits for that last showing. and the show the promo focused on, Also a user says that with T&JT and JT gone, SF, W&D, MN and TSSM are the only hints of CW4Kids's former life as Kids' WB]