0:0:0.0 \--\> 0:0:2.20\
Keith Low\
To be integrated into work right?

0:0:2.260 \--\> 0:0:5.100\
Keith Low\
Or the other way around, like integrated into QP log.

0:0:5.960 \--\> 0:0:6.660\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, we\'re building.

0:0:5.840 \--\> 0:0:8.230\
Ella Holt\
Well, what\'s gonna happen is we\'re rebuilding it.

0:0:8.280 \--\> 0:0:9.120\
Ella Holt\
And work right?

0:0:9.180 \--\> 0:0:11.910\
Ella Holt\
So yeah, it\'s gonna be more.

0:0:11.960 \--\> 0:0:15.220\
Ella Holt\
Yeah, it\'s gonna be idea, general, but we\'re rebuilding it.

0:0:15.230 \--\> 0:0:17.390\
Ella Holt\
So it\'s not like QPR\'s law it\'s gonna get integrated.

0:0:19.510 \--\> 0:0:19.730\
Ryan Church\
Yeah.

0:0:17.400 \--\> 0:0:21.0\
Ella Holt\
It\'s gonna get fully rebuilt within within like crap.

0:0:21.790 \--\> 0:0:22.10\
Keith Low\
Umm.

0:0:21.450 \--\> 0:0:22.930\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, just don\'t just on that, Keith.

0:0:22.940 \--\> 0:0:26.20\
Ryan Church\
It\'s it\'s the front end of couple slaw that\'s being built into work,
right.

0:0:26.650 \--\> 0:0:26.900\
Ella Holt\
Umm.

0:0:26.30 \--\> 0:0:30.540\
Ryan Church\
The back end is gonna sit in high graph CMS in that that piece of work.

0:0:30.550 \--\> 0:0:31.60\
Ryan Church\
So already.

0:0:31.570 \--\> 0:0:32.780\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, it\'s 95.

0:0:32.790 \--\> 0:0:33.430\
Ryan Church\
It\'s been done.

0:0:33.440 \--\> 0:0:42.450\
Ryan Church\
We\'ve we\'ve proved that we can migrate the back end of Q\'s law into
at high graph, but it\'s the front end that this project nomos, it\'s
called.

0:0:44.460 \--\> 0:0:44.720\
Keith Low\
OK.

0:0:42.460 \--\> 0:0:45.510\
Ryan Church\
That\'s what we\'re doing, kicks off on the 12th, which is next week.

0:0:46.600 \--\> 0:0:48.170\
Keith Low\
Ohh then what happened to work right?

0:0:48.180 \--\> 0:0:49.520\
Keith Low\
As a product, it\'s still there.

0:0:50.270 \--\> 0:0:50.450\
Ella Holt\
Yeah.

0:0:50.430 \--\> 0:0:51.30\
Ryan Church\
Absolutely yes.

0:0:52.830 \--\> 0:0:53.520\
Ella Holt\
Yep.

0:0:52.290 \--\> 0:0:53.570\
Keith Low\
Ohk OK, OK.

0:0:53.610 \--\> 0:0:56.780\
Ella Holt\
So it\'s in theory that we have two products within work if that makes
sense.

0:0:56.790 \--\> 0:0:59.590\
Ella Holt\
We still got work right and then Law as well.

0:1:0.790 \--\> 0:1:0.970\
Ryan Church\
Yeah.

0:1:0.770 \--\> 0:1:2.320\
Keith Low\
Hmm.

0:1:2.360 \--\> 0:1:2.910\
Keith Low\
OK.

0:1:2.960 \--\> 0:1:23.490\
Keith Low\
OK, so in in this case, I think the number of weeks when when we started
to talk about this, you mentioned about this integrating into home, uh
with the user management and also well I maybe you can elaborate what
what is the requirement or what is expected?

0:1:24.440 \--\> 0:1:24.680\
Ella Holt\
Yeah.

0:1:24.690 \--\> 0:1:26.170\
Ella Holt\
We just wanted to talk about.

0:1:26.180 \--\> 0:1:41.690\
Ella Holt\
So obviously with the new we\'ve asked building Law within WorkRite,
obviously we need to talk about user management and there\'s this point
where we\'re at where I\'m is this something that will be ready in home
and we can use the user management within home rather than us rebuilding
in the product.

0:1:41.700 \--\> 0:1:43.20\
Ella Holt\
And that\'s kind of the conversation.

0:1:43.740 \--\> 0:1:50.510\
Ella Holt\
I\'m that we wanted to get well, the idea that we wanted to get from UK
for LA about time frames.

0:1:50.520 \--\> 0:1:51.270\
Ella Holt\
Is that possible?

0:1:51.280 \--\> 0:1:56.50\
Ella Holt\
Is that feasible that we could have user management for Law within home
rather than have to build?

0:1:56.60 \--\> 0:1:57.530\
Ella Holt\
I think within work right itself.

0:1:58.480 \--\> 0:2:2.140\
Keith Low\
Uh, you you are expecting it to be ready by year end?

0:2:4.710 \--\> 0:2:6.450\
Ella Holt\
I mean, Ryan, we should find frames on them.

0:2:4.980 \--\> 0:2:7.650\
Ryan Church\
We\'ll face. Yeah.

0:2:7.660 \--\> 0:2:10.60\
Ryan Church\
So there\'s there\'s three phases to this, Keith.

0:2:10.70 \--\> 0:2:14.690\
Ryan Church\
But yeah, for the the first phase or anticipating being, yeah, at some
point, October, November.

0:2:16.590 \--\> 0:2:18.380\
Ryan Church\
Which is going to require this user management piece.

0:2:20.20 \--\> 0:2:20.290\
Keith Low\
OK.

0:2:20.300 \--\> 0:2:23.10\
Keith Low\
I mean, based on the initial, uh.

0:2:24.430 \--\> 0:2:38.510\
Keith Low\
Our planning, I mean what we presented to our John Molamphy uh, we
should have our MVP for, for user management and and all those around
Q3Q4.

0:2:38.640 \--\> 0:2:43.90\
Keith Low\
But the the problem is right now we have not started anything due to
some other dependency.

0:2:46.990 \--\> 0:2:47.290\
Ella Holt\
Umm.

0:2:43.340 \--\> 0:2:48.870\
Keith Low\
So I\'m quite concerned or worried that this will actually be be delayed
a bit.

0:2:48.980 \--\> 0:2:54.680\
Keith Low\
I\'m not too sure when we are starting to work on the user sync now.

0:2:55.580 \--\> 0:2:55.800\
Ryan Church\
Mm-hmm.

0:2:55.270 \--\> 0:2:56.210\
Keith Low\
Uh.

0:2:57.30 \--\> 0:2:58.180\
Keith Low\
I home or what?

0:2:58.190 \--\> 0:2:59.180\
Keith Low\
We gonna create my dinner.

0:2:59.190 \--\> 0:3:1.690\
Keith Low\
I\'m not sure we are beginning to look into it.

0:3:2.370 \--\> 0:3:4.410\
Keith Low\
A lot of work has not been done at all.

0:3:6.110 \--\> 0:3:6.310\
Ella Holt\
I guess.

0:3:5.670 \--\> 0:3:13.870\
Keith Low\
If there is a hot, hot, uh deadline, for example, like end of the year,
then uh, I don\'t dare to promise.

0:3:13.550 \--\> 0:3:14.200\
Ryan Church\
It\'s and it\'s.

0:3:14.490 \--\> 0:3:15.70\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, it\'s a risk.

0:3:13.910 \--\> 0:3:16.900\
Keith Low\
But then if you, uh, there, there is a risk.

0:3:17.330 \--\> 0:3:24.670\
Keith Low\
But if you\'re talking about, for example, like Q1 next year, then
really do too much, then I don\'t think there is any problem for MVP.

0:3:27.220 \--\> 0:3:29.510\
Ryan Church\
And MVP is that user management.

0:3:29.520 \--\> 0:3:32.220\
Ryan Church\
Is that uh, I\'m yeah.

0:3:32.270 \--\> 0:3:34.110\
Ryan Church\
Let the authentication piece as well.

0:3:35.40 \--\> 0:3:38.290\
Keith Low\
Yes, authentication with a basic user management.

0:3:39.120 \--\> 0:3:39.360\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:3:40.100 \--\> 0:3:42.490\
Ella Holt\
Basic user management Key.

0:3:42.500 \--\> 0:3:43.390\
Ella Holt\
What would that include?

0:3:46.560 \--\> 0:3:46.910\
Keith Low\
OK.

0:3:46.920 \--\> 0:3:48.960\
Keith Low\
Right now we are working with uh.

0:3:48.970 \--\> 0:3:53.430\
Keith Low\
There is a user management page, but then you know that is very much
stated towards our.

0:3:53.950 \--\> 0:3:54.150\
Ella Holt\
Yeah.

0:3:53.780 \--\> 0:3:57.470\
Keith Low\
It\'s not supposed to see that it\'s supposed to.

0:3:57.240 \--\> 0:3:58.70\
Ella Holt\
Anyone else? Yeah.

0:3:57.480 \--\> 0:4:12.340\
Keith Low\
Actually, we\'re supposed to get it out and and function function for
every other pillar, so at least for arcs perspective, what we have right
now the user management page is basically you are able to view.

0:4:13.310 \--\> 0:4:14.900\
Keith Low\
Uh, the user?

0:4:14.950 \--\> 0:4:15.630\
Keith Low\
The name.

0:4:16.30 \--\> 0:4:20.10\
Keith Low\
Then there is another Licensing page where we can actually assign
licenses.

0:4:20.20 \--\> 0:4:21.310\
Keith Low\
You can actually look at the licenses.

0:4:23.460 \--\> 0:4:24.790\
Ella Holt\
If you look at licenses as well.

0:4:25.530 \--\> 0:4:25.710\
Keith Low\
Yep.

0:4:27.740 \--\> 0:4:30.530\
Ella Holt\
Because I think that\'s in law at the moment, Ryan, isn\'t there
Licensing management.

0:4:30.130 \--\> 0:4:33.540\
Ryan Church\
Umm yeah is it is.

0:4:33.590 \--\> 0:4:34.20\
Ryan Church\
Have you got?

0:4:33.250 \--\> 0:4:34.260\
Ella Holt\
So that\'s what we\'re going to be.

0:4:34.270 \--\> 0:4:35.710\
Ella Holt\
Your sorry, you\'re on you go.

0:4:35.650 \--\> 0:4:36.370\
Ryan Church\
You guys gonna?

0:4:37.780 \--\> 0:4:38.20\
Keith Low\
Uh.

0:4:37.280 \--\> 0:4:38.50\
Ella Holt\
Because I saw that.

0:4:38.60 \--\> 0:4:40.430\
Ella Holt\
Is that what you\'re gonna look to achieve for the MVP?

0:4:42.340 \--\> 0:4:42.540\
Keith Low\
Yes.

0:4:40.440 \--\> 0:4:43.710\
Ella Holt\
Is exact same with what you\'ve got for art, but for all.

0:4:43.780 \--\> 0:4:44.770\
Ella Holt\
Well, a few other products.

0:4:44.780 \--\> 0:4:45.800\
Ella Holt\
I\'m assuming you\'re aiming for.

0:4:44.520 \--\> 0:4:48.410\
Keith Low\
Yeah, I mean we, we, we are going to, we are going to expand from what
we have.

0:4:48.420 \--\> 0:4:48.850\
Keith Low\
Are you now?

0:4:49.680 \--\> 0:4:57.510\
Keith Low\
Uh, and and and I think our conversation now would actually be able to
fit into what we\'re going to do for the user management.

0:5:0.470 \--\> 0:5:0.680\
Ella Holt\
Umm.

0:4:57.520 \--\> 0:5:3.570\
Keith Low\
I mean additional things that we wanted to do, OK, even even for, for
the licensing. We why?

0:5:3.580 \--\> 0:5:5.510\
Keith Low\
Why I call it an MVP?

0:5:5.520 \--\> 0:5:13.510\
Keith Low\
Because basically to me those are very simple things like for example,
I\'m able to view the username, I\'m able to view the tenant.

0:5:13.520 \--\> 0:5:15.130\
Keith Low\
How many licenses they have?

0:5:15.340 \--\> 0:5:22.150\
Keith Low\
I\'m able to view what license they have, redesign and so on in in cloud
OPS are still very much involved in this.

0:5:22.160 \--\> 0:5:33.850\
Keith Low\
The the manual part where they need to provision a tenant and the
initial admin for for tenant in the longer term we wanted all this to be
fully automated.

0:5:36.520 \--\> 0:5:39.60\
Keith Low\
But they will probably take longer, longer, longer time.

0:5:42.640 \--\> 0:5:42.870\
Ella Holt\
OK.

0:5:42.100 \--\> 0:5:43.400\
Ryan Church\
Where where\'s this document?

0:5:43.410 \--\> 0:5:43.670\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:5:43.680 \--\> 0:5:51.60\
Ryan Church\
So we can see exactly what what\'s included in sort of the
authentication and user management piece is that is that confluence or
is it somewhere else?

0:5:52.100 \--\> 0:5:53.80\
Keith Low\
Uh, OK.

0:6:0.820 \--\> 0:6:1.50\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:5:55.0 \--\> 0:6:1.880\
Keith Low\
50 Peter has a very high level platform view or what we\'re going to do,
I can actually share that with you.

0:6:2.660 \--\> 0:6:3.60\
Ryan Church\
Thank you.

0:6:3.70 \--\> 0:6:3.480\
Ryan Church\
Yes, please.

0:6:3.730 \--\> 0:6:4.150\
Ella Holt\
Yes, please.

0:6:2.610 \--\> 0:6:5.960\
Keith Low\
Uh, but, but uh, be mindful of the date.

0:6:5.970 \--\> 0:6:8.970\
Keith Low\
Uh may change because we are still working on that.

0:6:9.510 \--\> 0:6:9.720\
Ella Holt\
Umm.

0:6:9.850 \--\> 0:6:10.90\
Ryan Church\
Yeah.

0:6:9.510 \--\> 0:6:12.90\
Keith Low\
I can actually share share that here.

0:6:14.290 \--\> 0:6:14.590\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:6:16.260 \--\> 0:6:17.530\
Keith Low\
I I just put it in this chat.

0:6:19.640 \--\> 0:6:20.0\
Ryan Church\
Thank you.

0:6:21.330 \--\> 0:6:28.470\
Keith Low\
OK, so right now you you require a user management page, probably your
Licensing page with the UI.

0:6:28.950 \--\> 0:6:36.730\
Keith Low\
Obviously the SSO integration that actually will, I don\'t think that is
an issue because we have already done all the POC testing.

0:6:37.910 \--\> 0:6:38.170\
Ella Holt\
Umm.

0:6:36.740 \--\> 0:6:44.370\
Keith Low\
We work right, so if this this Law supposed to be running on top of
work, right, I don\'t see that as an issue.

0:6:44.570 \--\> 0:6:46.760\
Keith Low\
So The thing is, I\'ll probably on the UI side.

0:6:48.400 \--\> 0:6:48.880\
Ella Holt\
Yeah.

0:6:48.810 \--\> 0:6:49.510\
Keith Low\
On the UI.

0:6:48.930 \--\> 0:6:54.990\
Ella Holt\
Yeah, I would say it\'s more around the user management side than, yeah,
the I think we can get the single sign on stuff to work.

0:6:55.120 \--\> 0:6:59.770\
Ella Holt\
I\'m guessing the only thing is what method are you still aiming for
Samuel?

0:6:59.780 \--\> 0:7:5.530\
Ella Holt\
Because I heard rumblings about the you\'re potentially looking at open
ID Connect again.

0:7:5.540 \--\> 0:7:6.880\
Ella Holt\
Is that decision been made?

0:7:8.200 \--\> 0:7:9.300\
Keith Low\
We hope to support both.

0:7:10.160 \--\> 0:7:11.140\
Ella Holt\
OK, that\'s fine.

0:7:11.150 \--\> 0:7:11.780\
Ella Holt\
That\'s good.

0:7:10.920 \--\> 0:7:12.950\
Keith Low\
Uh, we hold, we hope to support.

0:7:11.950 \--\> 0:7:13.550\
Ella Holt\
A single signals easier for us.

0:7:13.660 \--\> 0:7:16.210\
Ella Holt\
So OK, no worries.

0:7:13.190 \--\> 0:7:23.550\
Keith Low\
Umm, yeah, yeah, I think right now the decision whether we go with
Auxilio or AWS cognito, there is a leaning towards the Oxo.

0:7:23.990 \--\> 0:7:24.250\
Ella Holt\
OK.

0:7:23.780 \--\> 0:7:29.50\
Keith Low\
So if we go with Auth 0 then open ID as well as the SAML is not an
issue.

0:7:29.650 \--\> 0:7:29.850\
Ella Holt\
OK.

0:7:29.320 \--\> 0:7:33.970\
Keith Low\
I mean the the, the the problems that AWS COGNITO which only supposed to
support more open ID.

0:7:35.180 \--\> 0:7:35.440\
Ella Holt\
OK.

0:7:39.590 \--\> 0:7:39.850\
Keith Low\
Uh.

0:7:35.350 \--\> 0:7:42.340\
Ryan Church\
And what\'s the timeline on that decision as well, the all zero
decision, Keith, because I\'m I\'m conscious that with with without a
decision, nothing can happen.

0:7:42.760 \--\> 0:7:45.500\
Keith Low\
Yes, yes, I we are expecting around this month.

0:7:47.170 \--\> 0:7:47.350\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:7:49.290 \--\> 0:7:49.640\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:7:49.650 \--\> 0:7:50.30\
Ryan Church\
Thank you.

0:7:52.450 \--\> 0:7:53.50\
Ryan Church\
Just looking at.

0:7:52.190 \--\> 0:7:54.470\
Keith Low\
So we are talking about a user management.

0:7:54.480 \--\> 0:7:56.250\
Keith Low\
What do you expect inside the user management?

0:7:59.280 \--\> 0:8:0.0\
Ryan Church\
You know what, Starla?

0:7:59.710 \--\> 0:8:22.390\
Ella Holt\
I guess in in a dream scenario we with the one all of you, the
management for law to be in time and a dream scenario but we I guess as
a first MVP as a basic thing would be that they just get added and that
information gets sent to to work right and then we set anything that\'s
Law related within the product.

0:8:22.400 \--\> 0:8:27.260\
Ella Holt\
But I think that\'s the user experience won\'t be very good, but I
don\'t what you think, Ryan.

0:8:28.400 \--\> 0:8:29.630\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, you watching to be?

0:8:29.700 \--\> 0:8:32.310\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, it\'s gonna be you.

0:8:32.320 \--\> 0:8:32.650\
Ryan Church\
You act.

0:8:32.710 \--\> 0:8:33.220\
Ryan Church\
Or not you are.

0:8:35.440 \--\> 0:8:35.670\
Ryan Church\
Yeah.

0:8:35.210 \--\> 0:8:36.240\
Ella Holt\
Sorry if you hear my daughter.

0:8:36.250 \--\> 0:8:38.400\
Ella Holt\
She\'s singing twinkle, twinkle little star in the background.

0:8:38.410 \--\> 0:8:39.520\
Ella Holt\
So yeah, sorry if you can hear that.

0:8:40.820 \--\> 0:8:41.230\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:8:41.240 \--\> 0:8:41.530\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:8:41.540 \--\> 0:8:42.470\
Ryan Church\
OK, James coffin.

0:8:43.690 \--\> 0:8:44.430\
Ella Holt\
Ohh no.

0:8:42.480 \--\> 0:8:44.590\
Ryan Church\
But I couldn\'t hear that and.

0:8:46.530 \--\> 0:8:49.820\
Ryan Church\
Umm yeah, as before we need to have a conversation offline.

0:8:55.320 \--\> 0:8:55.570\
Ella Holt\
Umm.

0:8:49.830 \--\> 0:8:55.880\
Ryan Church\
And that\'s what we do, cause normal isn\'t we need to get nomos out and
if we\'re not gonna have what we need.

0:8:58.800 \--\> 0:8:58.980\
Ella Holt\
Yeah.

0:8:56.620 \--\> 0:9:0.620\
Ryan Church\
Umm need to make a decision as to pushing out that pushing that out?

0:9:1.500 \--\> 0:9:2.150\
Ella Holt\
How about?

0:9:2.280 \--\> 0:9:2.690\
Ella Holt\
Yeah.

0:9:5.470 \--\> 0:9:5.900\
Ryan Church\
Yeah.

0:9:2.700 \--\> 0:9:6.240\
Ella Holt\
How about me and you have conversation, Ryan, and we\'ll come back with
Keith with our expectations.

0:9:5.910 \--\> 0:9:6.870\
Ryan Church\
Is that alright, Keith? Yeah.

0:9:6.250 \--\> 0:9:7.820\
Ella Holt\
And then, yeah.

0:9:6.540 \--\> 0:9:9.110\
Keith Low\
Yeah, sure, sure, Jeff.

0:9:15.170 \--\> 0:9:15.320\
Ella Holt\
I\'m.

0:9:18.550 \--\> 0:9:19.60\
Ella Holt\
Any work?

0:9:9.120 \--\> 0:9:21.330\
Keith Low\
I I mean I I would appreciate this kind of feedback because right now
what we have for on is very much a sense centric to towards R and and of
course we are working towards opening up to all other pillars.

0:9:22.20 \--\> 0:9:24.200\
Ella Holt\
Umm. Question.

0:9:26.200 \--\> 0:9:26.570\
Ella Holt\
Umm.

0:9:21.680 \--\> 0:9:32.910\
Keith Low\
So if you can discuss that internally, then you can come back to me with
well, even if an ideal case, I think that is fine because we can always
discuss what can be done and what.

0:9:33.360 \--\> 0:9:38.700\
Keith Low\
Maybe you guys have to have to handle so, but at least that will help
with.

0:9:38.800 \--\> 0:9:40.530\
Keith Low\
I mean we can start working on that basis.

0:9:41.600 \--\> 0:9:42.40\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:9:42.30 \--\> 0:9:42.190\
Ella Holt\
Yeah.

0:9:42.960 \--\> 0:9:43.970\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, we\'ll have that chat.

0:9:43.980 \--\> 0:9:44.410\
Ryan Church\
Thank you.

0:9:46.940 \--\> 0:9:48.860\
Keith Low\
Because you said management any.

0:9:48.910 \--\> 0:9:49.700\
Keith Low\
Uh.

0:9:49.710 \--\> 0:9:53.40\
Keith Low\
I mean on the UI side Licensing page, would you be expecting then?

0:9:55.60 \--\> 0:9:55.250\
Ella Holt\
Yeah.

0:9:55.980 \--\> 0:9:56.530\
Ella Holt\
Licensing.

0:9:56.400 \--\> 0:9:56.830\
Ryan Church\
Umm.

0:9:57.10 \--\> 0:10:3.430\
Ella Holt\
Laura is no, but I don\'t know if you expect that as part of the first
release run or if you\'re happy to have that a second or third part of
the release.

0:10:3.90 \--\> 0:10:7.650\
Ryan Church\
Like if if we haven\'t got licensing in there, how are we gonna
provision a provision of user?

0:10:14.290 \--\> 0:10:15.760\
Ryan Church\
I\'ll just I\'ll just the UI side of it.

0:10:9.780 \--\> 0:10:16.570\
Ella Holt\
No, as in to so they can see what their licensing is, what they
purchased, that kind of stuff. Yeah.

0:10:15.770 \--\> 0:10:19.990\
Ryan Church\
So the yeah, I mean that, that that can come in later releases that
doesn\'t need to be phased, one, does it?

0:10:20.790 \--\> 0:10:21.980\
Ella Holt\
Yeah, that\'s what you were thinking.

0:10:21.990 \--\> 0:10:22.460\
Ella Holt\
Keep isn\'t it?

0:10:22.270 \--\> 0:10:23.270\
Keith Low\
Hmm yeah.

0:10:22.470 \--\> 0:10:24.570\
Ella Holt\
Is that what kind of licensing you\'ve been built in home?

0:10:26.740 \--\> 0:10:26.970\
Ella Holt\
OK.

0:10:25.580 \--\> 0:10:34.830\
Keith Low\
Yes, I mean just to give some background at the moment, the licensing
page for for uh, it\'s very much geared towards them.

0:10:34.940 \--\> 0:10:45.150\
Keith Low\
I mean, when I say that is because the licensing model it has to based
on certain certain licensing model for example like in they have a
license that is actually applicable to wards all instances.

0:10:45.790 \--\> 0:10:45.990\
Ella Holt\
Uh-huh.

0:10:45.220 \--\> 0:10:49.470\
Keith Low\
It\'s the same licensing replies applies all towards the instance.

0:10:49.780 \--\> 0:10:56.170\
Keith Low\
So I think over for this particular Law like product, if it\'s the same,
well then nothing much.

0:10:56.180 \--\> 0:11:1.420\
Keith Low\
We need to change, but if it\'s different then the back end, we may need
to tweak it to change it.

0:11:1.510 \--\> 0:11:9.130\
Keith Low\
So if this is required, then it\'s something which I need to go to in
depth the licensing model for example.

0:11:10.760 \--\> 0:11:14.530\
Ella Holt\
Assume that you\'re expecting line that it will show with the
jurisdictions that they\'ve purchased.

0:11:14.900 \--\> 0:11:15.610\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, it needs to.

0:11:15.620 \--\> 0:11:16.180\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, yeah.

0:11:16.590 \--\> 0:11:16.730\
Ella Holt\
Yeah.

0:11:18.700 \--\> 0:11:18.880\
Ella Holt\
OK.

0:11:19.40 \--\> 0:11:19.320\
Ryan Church\
Yep.

0:11:19.650 \--\> 0:11:20.760\
Keith Low\
And maybe you can.

0:11:20.770 \--\> 0:11:24.250\
Keith Low\
Uh, describe to me the licensing model.

0:11:24.260 \--\> 0:11:36.700\
Keith Low\
I mean, not necessarily now, but then if you can have some writing or or
or some description how the licensing actually is assigned to a user or
to a tenant, I don\'t I mean that that actually can help us a lot.

0:11:37.170 \--\> 0:11:37.710\
Ella Holt\
It\'s OK.

0:11:38.90 \--\> 0:11:38.440\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:11:38.490 \--\> 0:11:39.720\
Ryan Church\
We\'ll, we\'ll pull that together as well, OK.

0:11:39.920 \--\> 0:11:40.250\
Keith Low\
Umm.

0:11:40.410 \--\> 0:11:40.590\
Ella Holt\
Yeah.

0:11:43.190 \--\> 0:11:43.820\
Ryan Church\
Yeah. OK.

0:11:44.340 \--\> 0:11:44.900\
Keith Low\
What else?

0:11:50.70 \--\> 0:11:54.260\
Keith Low\
Yeah, I think probably for initial MVP then.

0:11:57.110 \--\> 0:12:0.910\
Keith Low\
What would the be the expectation for the user journey?

0:12:1.490 \--\> 0:12:2.230\
Keith Low\
Uh to log in?

0:12:6.420 \--\> 0:12:6.780\
Ryan Church\
Umm.

0:12:9.900 \--\> 0:12:10.210\
Ryan Church\
What?

0:12:10.280 \--\> 0:12:15.100\
Ryan Church\
What do the letter it\'s it\'s going to be similar to a WorkRite lovely
isn\'t Ella.

0:12:15.110 \--\> 0:12:16.550\
Ryan Church\
That\'s, I mean that\'s how I did missed it.

0:12:17.460 \--\> 0:12:17.670\
Ella Holt\
Mm-hmm.

0:12:18.590 \--\> 0:12:20.0\
Ella Holt\
Do you expect them to see home though?

0:12:20.10 \--\> 0:12:22.340\
Ella Holt\
Or would you expect them to get directed straight into work right?

0:12:23.410 \--\> 0:12:25.420\
Ryan Church\
That\'s something we\'ve we\'ve talked about it then.

0:12:27.480 \--\> 0:12:31.550\
Ryan Church\
With worker already been hooked into home, I would expect them to stay
home.

0:12:30.490 \--\> 0:12:33.400\
Ella Holt\
I bet it\'s only looked into the marketing page, isn\'t it?

0:12:33.410 \--\> 0:12:34.340\
Ella Holt\
That\'s different.

0:12:35.240 \--\> 0:12:35.740\
Ryan Church\
Yeah. OK.

0:12:34.350 \--\> 0:12:37.530\
Ella Holt\
What unless are you rebuilding the marketing page within home, Keith?

0:12:40.250 \--\> 0:12:41.660\
Ella Holt\
But it kind of will be in one place.

0:12:49.920 \--\> 0:12:50.190\
Ryan Church\
Hmm.

0:12:55.690 \--\> 0:12:55.890\
Ryan Church\
Yeah.

0:12:39.860 \--\> 0:12:57.530\
Keith Low\
I think the ideal situation, uh, did the ideal situation for home would
be that you will be logging into home, you go into the dashboard, you be
seeing all the product that the tenant has, the user has and let\'s say
Law is there.

0:12:57.540 \--\> 0:13:0.560\
Keith Low\
The person clicks on it and it comes to Law or work right?

0:13:1.390 \--\> 0:13:4.670\
Keith Low\
That that is how I would imagine the whole flow would be.

0:13:24.610 \--\> 0:13:24.870\
Keith Low\
Hmm.

0:13:5.630 \--\> 0:13:30.390\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, yeah, I think he said, differentiating between those customers
that have only that have got work right, those that have got Law and
those that have got both that that\'s that\'s that\'s the the piece that
we need to get our heads around Keith, because it\'s it is 2 products,
but effectively surfacing it to the opportunity here Keith is that we
can sell Law to work, right customers as an additional module, but we
also need to be able to accommodate just purely law customers.

0:13:30.400 \--\> 0:13:41.540\
Ryan Church\
So if it\'s, if it\'s an icon on the home and having a way of
differentiating between those 3 scenarios, so WorkRite law or WorkRite
and law. Umm.

0:13:43.990 \--\> 0:13:44.250\
Keith Low\
Umm.

0:13:43.680 \--\> 0:13:45.10\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, we need to put some more thoughts about.

0:13:48.260 \--\> 0:13:48.480\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:13:50.490 \--\> 0:13:51.440\
Ryan Church\
I could do the product manager.

0:13:54.610 \--\> 0:13:56.360\
Ella Holt\
Your plate has just got much busier, right?

0:13:56.260 \--\> 0:13:56.530\
Keith Low\
Yeah.

0:13:57.30 \--\> 0:13:57.250\
Keith Low\
Yeah.

0:13:56.370 \--\> 0:13:58.320\
Ella Holt\
And that\'s that\'s summary of this conversation.

0:13:58.860 \--\> 0:13:59.50\
Keith Low\
Who?

0:13:56.750 \--\> 0:13:59.180\
Ryan Church\
Ohh yeah Yep.

0:13:59.60 \--\> 0:14:0.450\
Keith Low\
Who was and link this to previously?

0:14:0.460 \--\> 0:14:1.750\
Keith Low\
Is it as a Sam Walton?

0:14:2.810 \--\> 0:14:3.750\
Ryan Church\
No, it\'s Steven Walton.

0:14:3.760 \--\> 0:14:4.0\
Ryan Church\
Yeah.

0:14:4.20 \--\> 0:14:4.650\
Keith Low\
I\'ll see what then?

0:14:4.10 \--\> 0:14:5.720\
Ryan Church\
So he left the he?

0:14:4.660 \--\> 0:14:6.470\
Keith Low\
Sorry enough, this is. Uh-huh.

0:14:5.930 \--\> 0:14:7.660\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, he left the business end of April.

0:14:7.670 \--\> 0:14:7.870\
Ryan Church\
I\'m.

0:14:11.180 \--\> 0:14:11.430\
Keith Low\
Uh.

0:14:7.930 \--\> 0:14:11.990\
Ryan Church\
I\'m I\'m interviewing for replacement at the moment, but yeah, that
can\'t come quick enough.

0:14:14.270 \--\> 0:14:15.50\
Keith Low\
OK.

0:14:15.410 \--\> 0:14:23.20\
Keith Low\
So OK, if I understand this correctly, the law will be integrated into
work, right?

0:14:23.770 \--\> 0:14:24.30\
Ryan Church\
Yep.

0:14:23.750 \--\> 0:14:27.960\
Keith Low\
Uh, OK, basically what does Law consists of?

0:14:27.970 \--\> 0:14:28.460\
Keith Low\
Insight.

0:14:28.990 \--\> 0:14:32.400\
Keith Low\
I mean, I mean, I mean, sorry for this very basic question.

0:14:32.410 \--\> 0:14:34.130\
Keith Low\
I don\'t understand what QP law does.

0:14:34.730 \--\> 0:14:35.60\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:14:35.70 \--\> 0:14:39.330\
Ryan Church\
So, uh QP law is is regulatory summaries.

0:14:43.730 \--\> 0:14:44.40\
Keith Low\
Umm.

0:14:39.340 \--\> 0:14:53.30\
Ryan Church\
So if you think of like a a piece of EHS legislation, so a legal
document piece of legislation, what the Qpulse law team do is they read,
understand, digest that information and then they summarize it in the
queue, possible product.

0:14:53.40 \--\> 0:14:55.80\
Ryan Church\
So the way then sell the queue.

0:14:55.90 \--\> 0:15:0.570\
Ryan Church\
Possible customers have visibility of those regulatory summaries of each
piece of legislation.

0:15:0.630 \--\> 0:15:0.880\
Keith Low\
Umm.

0:15:0.690 \--\> 0:15:2.620\
Ryan Church\
It also links to that piece of legislation.

0:15:10.360 \--\> 0:15:10.660\
Keith Low\
Umm.

0:15:2.630 \--\> 0:15:11.690\
Ryan Church\
If the customer wants to go to the full the legislation, but that
that\'s not hosted within within Law, that is just taking them to the
actual published publicly available piece of legislation.

0:15:11.700 \--\> 0:15:19.450\
Ryan Church\
But our our team summarize it and and put together a checklist for our
customers to to identify whether they are compliant with that piece of
law.

0:15:20.320 \--\> 0:15:21.990\
Ryan Church\
That that\'s effectively what the product does.

0:15:22.370 \--\> 0:15:22.650\
Keith Low\
OK.

0:15:25.340 \--\> 0:15:39.220\
Keith Low\
So you require the home to have a user management page for the user, or
probably a licensing page, but on top of that, if you\'re talking about
and UI we did in home do you require home to be able to like?

0:15:44.760 \--\> 0:15:44.950\
Ryan Church\
No.

0:15:42.140 \--\> 0:15:45.360\
Keith Low\
Store or display the content of QP loss I.

0:15:46.60 \--\> 0:15:46.320\
Ella Holt\
Alright.

0:15:49.360 \--\> 0:15:49.970\
Ryan Church\
Yeah.

0:15:45.370 \--\> 0:15:50.220\
Keith Low\
I mean, this probably would be like the content marketplace, which I
think Christopher mentioned to me a few times.

0:15:50.120 \--\> 0:15:52.890\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, that\'s that\'s that\'s that\'s with me as well, Keith.

0:15:52.900 \--\> 0:15:56.180\
Ryan Church\
That\'s another one of my hats to content content marketplace piece.

0:15:58.290 \--\> 0:16:0.720\
Ryan Church\
So yeah, so so content marketplace is a separate product.

0:16:15.70 \--\> 0:16:15.420\
Keith Low\
Umm.

0:16:0.790 \--\> 0:16:15.990\
Ryan Church\
So that is what will happen in the back end there, Keith, is there\'ll
be a bidirectional integration between the, the, the Law back end
punching out into content marketplace AA something this is awkward, a
summary of the summary.

0:16:16.0 \--\> 0:16:35.180\
Ryan Church\
So it\'s this, this this so in the example where we we have a full
summary and checklist in Q pulse law for, I don\'t know, let\'s say
marine, uh marine safety let\'s say for example that in Q post Law
there\'ll be that full regulatory summary a checklist for those
customers using that.

0:16:35.450 \--\> 0:16:51.560\
Ryan Church\
But in content marketplace, there\'ll be a high level overview of what Q
Pulse law has, and the customer will have a call to action in content
marketplace if they want that summary, they would be handed off to the Q
pulse law sales team to be able to purchase queue post Law or in this
example idea.

0:16:51.570 \--\> 0:16:52.890\
Ryan Church\
General umm.

0:16:52.460 \--\> 0:16:53.320\
Keith Low\
Hmm.

0:16:53.610 \--\> 0:17:0.260\
Ryan Church\
So yeah, that\'s the that, that, that piece of work is all driven from
the back end of of the high graph CMS.

0:17:0.390 \--\> 0:17:3.40\
Ryan Church\
So content marketplace needs to be built.

0:17:6.160 \--\> 0:17:6.600\
Keith Low\
OK.

0:17:10.890 \--\> 0:17:11.330\
Keith Low\
Hmm.

0:17:3.90 \--\> 0:17:12.460\
Ryan Church\
That\'s a Greenfield product and I\'m literally got got acknowledgement
today that we\'re getting a brand new team to build, that they\'re not
be in the business till September, October time.

0:17:13.410 \--\> 0:17:14.740\
Keith Low\
OK, OK.

0:17:14.830 \--\> 0:17:16.390\
Keith Low\
I I think we will come to that.

0:17:18.430 \--\> 0:17:18.680\
Ryan Church\
Umm.

0:17:16.430 \--\> 0:17:19.600\
Keith Low\
I think in tomorrow\'s discussion tomorrow night, Amy for me.

0:17:19.970 \--\> 0:17:30.360\
Keith Low\
So, but over here we\'re talking about and you I for user management and
probably on the licensing page where actually integrated with the SSO
and also the authentication for work, right.

0:17:31.240 \--\> 0:17:31.940\
Ryan Church\
Yeah. OK.

0:17:32.640 \--\> 0:17:33.50\
Keith Low\
OK.

0:17:33.100 \--\> 0:17:34.610\
Keith Low\
OK, OK, I\'m clear now.

0:17:35.890 \--\> 0:17:49.400\
Keith Low\
Uh, I think based on the timeline that we have a if you are looking at
end of the year, I will need to double confirm whether we are able to
confidently work on that on time.

0:17:50.270 \--\> 0:17:50.490\
Ryan Church\
Yeah.

0:17:49.820 \--\> 0:18:1.740\
Keith Low\
But if you\'re more, if you can actually accept this, let\'s say Q1 next
year, then I\'m very confident we are able to do that.

0:18:11.470 \--\> 0:18:12.780\
Keith Low\
And I\'m referring to the calendar.

0:18:12.790 \--\> 0:18:14.280\
Keith Low\
Yeah, I know it.

0:18:2.490 \--\> 0:18:14.310\
Ryan Church\
And and just on that, Keith, I mean the the work being completed in Q1
calendar next year or cute, yeah, or actually being fully tested
calendar year?

0:18:16.920 \--\> 0:18:17.460\
Ryan Church\
Yeah.

0:18:14.290 \--\> 0:18:19.320\
Keith Low\
I didn\'t has has a different financial year, which is that is actually
from March.

0:18:17.510 \--\> 0:18:20.70\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, it\'s a confusing, isn\'t it? So.

0:18:19.410 \--\> 0:18:20.380\
Keith Low\
I don\'t know calendar.

0:18:20.390 \--\> 0:18:20.650\
Keith Low\
Yeah.

0:18:20.690 \--\> 0:18:23.990\
Keith Low\
So January to March next year, I\'m quite confident that is not an
issue.

0:18:26.890 \--\> 0:18:27.210\
Keith Low\
Umm.

0:18:22.490 \--\> 0:18:38.510\
Ryan Church\
But yes, so so, so, so so calendar year Q1SO2026Q1 calendar year is that
the the the development work to be completed or is that for the
development work to be completed tested and released it\'s it\'s I mean
I\'m just sorry to be pedantic.

0:18:37.450 \--\> 0:18:40.410\
Keith Low\
Uh, not 20262025 January to March.

0:18:40.550 \--\> 0:18:41.920\
Ryan Church\
25 did I say 26?

0:18:41.990 \--\> 0:18:42.440\
Ryan Church\
Sorry.

0:18:43.550 \--\> 0:18:44.890\
Keith Low\
No 26 don\'t know.

0:19:0.890 \--\> 0:19:2.80\
Keith Low\
Completed, tested and released.

0:18:42.450 \--\> 0:19:3.440\
Ryan Church\
OK, you fusing calendar years and and financial years now, but yes,
it\'s OK so so calendar year 25, you\'re the same question is that the
development work to be completed or is it to be completed, tested and
released and because we\'re gonna need time to make sure that we can fit
this into that, it works for a low, OK.

0:19:5.780 \--\> 0:19:6.20\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:19:3.600 \--\> 0:19:8.40\
Keith Low\
Completed, tested and released some, but I\'m talking about MVP, not not
the whole full flash.

0:19:13.110 \--\> 0:19:13.310\
Keith Low\
Yeah.

0:19:9.810 \--\> 0:19:14.490\
Ryan Church\
OK, we\'ve got a conversation to have the Ella cause at that timelines
struggling for a project almost.

0:19:15.30 \--\> 0:19:15.600\
Ella Holt\
Yep.

0:19:15.650 \--\> 0:19:16.400\
Ella Holt\
OK, cool.

0:19:16.410 \--\> 0:19:16.780\
Ella Holt\
That\'s fine.

0:19:18.600 \--\> 0:19:19.0\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:19:19.70 \--\> 0:19:19.810\
Ryan Church\
Thanks, Keith.

0:19:19.820 \--\> 0:19:20.160\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, it was.

0:19:20.170 \--\> 0:19:20.400\
Ryan Church\
It was.

0:19:18.730 \--\> 0:19:20.780\
Keith Low\
OK, I think umm yeah.

0:19:20.420 \--\> 0:19:22.930\
Ryan Church\
It was a question wanting to ask is it it\'s it\'s See.

0:19:22.980 \--\> 0:19:31.420\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, in, in, in the best case scenario, all this long term, we\'re
gonna have user management, authentication or the provisioning is gonna
be happening in home.

0:19:31.670 \--\> 0:19:31.970\
Keith Low\
Hmm.

0:19:31.570 \--\> 0:19:36.350\
Ryan Church\
If we\'re not gonna have that in time for the release of Project Nomos,
which is Key post Law, so idea.

0:19:36.360 \--\> 0:19:36.880\
Ryan Church\
Gen law.

0:19:37.850 \--\> 0:19:42.570\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, we have another conversation, Ella, because that\'s pushing that
out as an extra work for our team, isn\'t it?

0:19:43.200 \--\> 0:19:43.920\
Ella Holt\
Uh-huh it is.

0:19:44.990 \--\> 0:19:45.770\
Ryan Church\
Yeah. OK.

0:19:46.970 \--\> 0:19:53.510\
Keith Low\
But I think, uh, let me come up with a proper discussion with the TPO
and also the deaf team.

0:19:54.420 \--\> 0:19:54.660\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:19:54.30 \--\> 0:20:1.320\
Keith Low\
Uh, but before we come to a specific estimation, then maybe you can work
on the requirement that you have in mind.

0:20:1.970 \--\> 0:20:2.170\
Ryan Church\
Yeah.

0:20:2.250 \--\> 0:20:5.200\
Keith Low\
Ideal case or maybe what you can accept as MVP.

0:20:5.410 \--\> 0:20:8.790\
Keith Low\
Then from there I can actually look at it whether it fits into what we
have.

0:20:9.510 \--\> 0:20:15.130\
Keith Low\
Then I will be able to give a very definite answer by year end whether
we can complete it or not.

0:20:16.500 \--\> 0:20:16.970\
Ryan Church\
Perfect.

0:20:16.980 \--\> 0:20:17.570\
Ryan Church\
Thank you, Keith.

0:20:17.710 \--\> 0:20:18.30\
Keith Low\
Umm.

0:20:17.580 \--\> 0:20:19.940\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, we\'ll we\'ll go and do that work and then we\'ll we\'ll come back
to you.

0:20:20.490 \--\> 0:20:20.780\
Keith Low\
Yeah.

0:20:20.790 \--\> 0:20:21.130\
Keith Low\
OK.

0:20:21.140 \--\> 0:20:21.520\
Keith Low\
OK.

0:20:21.590 \--\> 0:20:22.50\
Keith Low\
Thanks a lot.

0:20:23.350 \--\> 0:20:23.790\
Ryan Church\
Excellent.

0:20:23.800 \--\> 0:20:24.820\
Ryan Church\
Any other questions are Keith?

0:20:25.660 \--\> 0:20:26.260\
Keith Low\
Uh, no.

0:20:27.680 \--\> 0:20:28.270\
Ryan Church\
I think for me.

0:20:27.480 \--\> 0:20:29.240\
Keith Low\
Uh, we talk about content marketplace tomorrow.

0:20:30.430 \--\> 0:20:30.740\
Ryan Church\
Yeah.

0:20:30.750 \--\> 0:20:31.520\
Ryan Church\
What time is that one?

0:20:30.680 \--\> 0:20:32.870\
Keith Low\
That is not a, not a big monster, I think.

0:20:33.780 \--\> 0:20:34.350\
Ryan Church\
Yeah.

0:20:34.360 \--\> 0:20:36.510\
Ryan Church\
And that\'s it\'s late for you, isn\'t it? OK.

0:20:36.720 \--\> 0:20:37.280\
Keith Low\
Yeah.

0:20:37.380 \--\> 0:20:38.110\
Keith Low\
Yeah, it\'s OK.

0:20:38.120 \--\> 0:20:38.550\
Keith Low\
No problem.

0:20:38.960 \--\> 0:20:41.660\
Keith Low\
I think the one I I need, Christy Peru to be in.

0:20:42.710 \--\> 0:20:44.40\
Ryan Church\
Yeah. Fair plan.

0:20:44.50 \--\> 0:20:44.380\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:20:44.390 \--\> 0:20:45.40\
Ryan Church\
Yeah, I\'ll get.

0:20:45.500 \--\> 0:20:48.170\
Ryan Church\
Make sure I\'ll have all the well try and get all the answers for that.

0:20:48.210 \--\> 0:20:50.300\
Ryan Church\
That meeting on tomorrow on Wednesday.

0:20:50.290 \--\> 0:20:52.170\
Keith Low\
Umm, OK thanks a lot.

0:20:52.820 \--\> 0:20:53.470\
Ryan Church\
Because stuff.

0:20:54.40 \--\> 0:20:54.370\
Ella Holt\
Right.

0:20:53.520 \--\> 0:20:54.420\
Ryan Church\
Thanks very much, Sal.

0:20:54.880 \--\> 0:20:55.120\
Keith Low\
OK.

0:20:55.130 \--\> 0:20:55.550\
Keith Low\
Thank you.

0:20:54.740 \--\> 0:20:55.930\
Ella Holt\
Thank you. Bye.

0:20:55.950 \--\> 0:20:56.260\
Ryan Church\
OK.

0:20:56.270 \--\> 0:20:56.490\
Ryan Church\
Bye bye.

0:20:56.580 \--\> 0:20:56.770\
Keith Low\
Yeah.

0:20:56.780 \--\> 0:20:56.950\
Keith Low\
Bye, bye.

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