Recapping the Week
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it's been a busy week welcome back to
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Hardware news we are doing a recap for
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the last two weeks actually because
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we've been working on some things in
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this one we're getting mostly back to
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normal there's a brief followup on the
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EK story it's mostly just some some
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talking about some extra information and
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then we'll also be going over some
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updates to the MSI claw which now claims
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a 150% performance increase in some
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games so 92 people will be really happy
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for some rumors on Intel's next desktop
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CPUs and the core configurations rumors
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of amd's radon 8000 gpus meta opening up
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its VR operating system to other vendors
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so soon we'll have the Asus Rog
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expensive edition of VR uh and plenty
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Quick EK Follow-Up & Jobs for Former Staff
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quick EK followup we have a ton more
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information we haven't published yet uh
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but for now it feels like the story is
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pretty well encapsulated in that part
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two video check out this image though so
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this was the org chart that we made it's
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about halfway through the uh EK
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investigation part two video
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and we made this chart to explain the
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complicated web of ownership and
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conflicts we also made this table of
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suppliers in 3D and We additionally
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talked about ek's global locations in
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this section of the video and then
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finally we covered some of the finance
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documents the tax forums the Secretary
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of State filings uh the taxes owed in
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various locations and also discussed
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leans and Loans in the business the
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reason I wanted to just sort of surface
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all of these is for all of you who
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didn't make it that far into the video
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uh or who just haven't seen it yet
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there's some really cool stuff in there
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and if you only watch one section really
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uh I would recommend somewhere around
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the 16 to 18 minute or so Mark for the
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starting point watch through till about
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30 minutes or so uh you got a good 12 to
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14 minute Chunk in there that's really
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focused on sort of the business the
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finance uh the strange structure of
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owners and investors and all this weird
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stuff going on uh that for me was the
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most fun part of the video but we had to
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sort of um establish the storyline of
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what is this company what's it doing
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what are it subsidiaries before we
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really got there so you should check
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that out if you haven't but I wanted to
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surface those just cuz it was the most
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intriguing part of it to me doing the
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research on this and uh our business
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analyst had a a pretty late night
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working on the or chart I was on the
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phone with them for several hours we
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were trying to we're like wait so does
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this this one connects to this one and
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but then how does it cross over to this
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one it really felt like we needed some
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red strain actually I bought some red
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strain but the gag didn't make it the
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video cuz the video end up been pretty
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long anyway we have received a number of
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follow-ups and tips that are credible
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however for now we're probably done
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covering the story until we see
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something major out of EK on the
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positive side we've compiled a list of
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ek's employes and contractors former and
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current who've reached out to us uh and
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for those of you who sent your resumés
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your contact information I've put it all
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together before this video goes up that
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we're filming right now uh I'm going to
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be sending that out to a couple of the
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companies in the space that have
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requested uh basically a pool of good
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talent in the PC industry that they can
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try and FastTrack and hire from so cool
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update on that uh I've spoken with star
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Forge I know that star Forge systems has
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an interview lined up with at least one
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of the former EK cooling solutions Texas
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staff which is awesome and it's great to
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hear they're already trying to uh see if
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they can create positions for people who
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were affected by this and then I also
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spoke with height uh and height has
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started lining up who they want to
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interview from the former EK staff both
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HQ and cooling solutions in Texas so
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there might be a positive ending for
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some of those affected here
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whistleblower Dan Henderson who kicks us
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all off at LinkedIn has a job at antech
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now which is actually also awesome to
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hear because uh whistleblowers and other
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Industries typically get forced out of
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those Industries and don't find work in
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them again after they raise the alarm so
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the fact that he's found a job in
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Industry at antech uh that's good news
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on the GN side we have a pool of awesome
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Consultants who can help with future
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investigation so we've really learned
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about how to piece this type of content
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together it was really complicated uh I
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was working every day all day like 20
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plus hours a day on trying to sort the
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story put it together understand it all
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that everything um it was really fun to
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work on it's an expensive way to do
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things but I think the content speaks
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for itself where we've never had this
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level of sort of depth in an
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investigation before and with this many
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contributing experts both on camera and
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behind the scenes
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so I'm excited to apply that knowledge
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to Future content uh for now though
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we'll be moving on with our reviews
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lineup now real talk we've made a lot of
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specific enemies with people who are
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Executives or high up at EK or in EK
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subsidiaries with that video uh and
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that's fine because I've had a lot of
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people reach out the last couple days
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alone like suppliers and other companies
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in the industry where definitely an
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overwhelming majority of what we've
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heard has been from people I know in
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director positions or
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uh positions at other large companies
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that deal with EK where they have
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thanked us for exposing what they've
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been dealing with for years so um
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there's one supplier I just spoke to
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recently that's owed a a singled digit
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thousands amount of dollars uh for a
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very long time now and that's like you
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can't pay that and something's wrong so
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MSI Claw Update, Ryzen 9000, & Intel Desktop CPUs
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back to normal we're going to do some
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speedrun stories first these are rumors
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and things without a whole lot of
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content to them first up MSI posted
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Updates this one's official for it's MSI
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claw handheld that we reviewed a couple
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weeks ago MSI claims an improvement
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upwards of 150% which must have been
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borderline broken before to get that big
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of an uplift we're not sure if this fix
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will fix the frame time pacing issues
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that we saw now previously just before
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review went live Intel post its own
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update that recommended avoiding some
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MSI Center M Power plans and stated its
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own intention of improving performance
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for Ark and we'll revisit the device
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next time we do a handheld review amd's
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ryzen 9000 series was in the rumor mill
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this has been confirmed by gigabyte as
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being the naming basically gigabyte
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posted a press release that it has since
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changed stating that its beta bios
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supports quote the coming ryzen 9000
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Series processors and video cards was
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able to capture a screenshot of the
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original posting the only news here is
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that we now have have a confirmed name
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and he leaving the 8,000 naming to
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probably the apus in other news it home
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picked up a rumor that Intel's core
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Ultra 5 240f will be an 8+ 16 and 6 Plus
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8 core configuration for what the poster
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says is the entry level desktop skew we
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look forward to motherboards running
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them at 700 watts and related to that
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comment hard run box posted a uh testing
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video relating to Intel's motherboards
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and the CPUs and how they get blasted uh
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depending on the configuration of the
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board and it various settings we did not
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cover that story so that's related to
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the stability story that's been in the
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news for on and off couple months now uh
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we haven't covered it because we're
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buried in all this EK stuff and I'm
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happy to defer to them for that one
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since we kind of skipped that in favor
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of the EK coverage so they've got a
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report for you there if you want to
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follow up on that all right next one
AMD Radeon RX 8000 GPUs & Slower GDDR6 Rumors
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we've previously reported on rumors that
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nvidia's at 50 Series gpus will be using
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gdr 7 memory and this is showing that
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AMD is currently cooking up unannounced
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rdna 4 powered RX 8000 gpus that will
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stick with slower gddr6 vram now this
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comes by the way of Kepler L2 who
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tweeted quote only 18 gbits per second I
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don't know how to verbally quote the
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Emoji that's in that is it is it like
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it's
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like I think that's how you quote it uh
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this would indicate potentially a
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cost-saving measure for amd's following
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gpus going with an older memory
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technology would definitely save money
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it could also however create a memory
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bandwidth issue depending on how Reliant
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the architecture is on bandwidth uh and
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that varies architecture architecture
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the gdr 7 is expected to go into mass
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production uh throughout and by the end
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of the year companies like SK HX have
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stated publicly that they are targeting
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40 gbits per second performance out of
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gdr 7 as it matures when it first comes
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out it's going to be lower than that
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it's typically how it goes now for
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reference amd's rdna 3 based RX 7900 gr
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and RX 7700 XT uh both carry 18 GB per
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second memory and this would be slower
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than the 7900 XTX which carries 20 GBS
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per second for its configuration by
Meta Opens Up VR OS
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default now up next meta opens up its VR
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OS to other vendors including Lenovo and
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Asus in what feels to be a bid to be the
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Android or Windows operating system in
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the VR space meta has announced that
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it's beginning to open up what it's now
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calling the Met Horizon OS to other VR
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headsets the company revealed that VR
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headsets from Asus Lenovo and a limited
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edition Quest headset made in
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collaboration with Xbox are in the works
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and in a company blog post meta wrote
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this quote we're opening up the
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operating system powering our meta Quest
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devices to thirdparty Hardware makers
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giving more choice to Consumers and a
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larger ecosystem for developers to build
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for end quote Zuckerberg posted to
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Instagram referencing modding and
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Hardware diversity as a key driver for
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opening up the solution he specifically
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cited apple as the Counterpoint to this
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approach headsets that use meta Horizon
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OS will have access to the features that
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meta has built which include Inside Out
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tracking as well as eye face hand and
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body tracking the operating system also
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supports mixed reality features like
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they say quote pass through scene
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understanding and spatial anchors with
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these headsets meta is also pushing its
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meta Quest store which it has rebranded
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to the metah Horizon store maybe
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something of a steam play there as well
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where valve benefits from being
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effectively the publisher or at least
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the the retailer of the games on its
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platform and that's where the real money
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is for them not the hardware as you see
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with the steam deck and previously with
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the original HTC Vive efforts so maybe
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something like that now delving more
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into the coming headsets there's the
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Asus version which is supposed to be an
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Rog branded device likely with Rog
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pricing attached to it and this is aimed
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at being what they say uh is a quote all
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new performance gaming headset so Asus
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has really taken the gaming side of it
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and specifically cited high performance
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as a key demand that they seek to fill
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with that headset lenovo's headset seems
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to be aimed at more mixed uses with the
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blog post highlighting things like
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learning and
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productivity ew and also entertainment
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as the key areas of focus of sarcasm by
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the way before someone's like I thought
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you liked learning uh the company
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previously partnered with Facebook when
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it co-designed the Oculus Rift s headset
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so there's some history there as well
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the limited edition Xbox inspired one is
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pictured in black and green coloring
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with the quest with the user holding an
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Xbox controller which no doubt will be
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targeted at streaming Xbox cloud gaming
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titles this is currently available in a
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beta State on existing Quest headsets we
FCC Reinstates Net Neutrality
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recently reported on how the fccu was
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going to vote to reinstate net
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neutrality which has come to pass and uh
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that was a 3 to2 vote restored net
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neutrality as predicted this
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reclassifies internet service providers
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under the title 2 provision of the
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communications act which is actually a
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1930s act in law and this is after net
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neutrality was repealed in 2017 so it's
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kind of a restoring of that title 2 has
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a common carrier aspect which would
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allow the FCC to have authority over
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those carriers so critically this would
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mean public access to Internet would be
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uh explicitly required to be a
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non-discriminatory provision of that
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service now in this instance the the
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non-discriminatory applies to the type
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of access so that would be things like
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certain websites being faster or slower
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uh maybe having throttling or other
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restrictions placed on them so that's
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what's meant here by that use of that
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phrasing so net neutrality theoretically
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aims to put all internet traffic on the
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same playing field preventing potential
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paid priority Lanes prior to the vote
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opponent of net neutrality and FCC chair
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Rosen warell stated that internet access
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has gone from a quote nice to have to a
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quote need to have adding that quote
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Broadband is now an essential service
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essential Services the ones we count on
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in every aspect of Modern Life have some
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basic oversight historically isps or
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internet service providers have fought
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this provision and it's mostly over
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concerns that their pricing could become
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regulated so not a big surprise they' be
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against it now this would be similar in
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some ways to utilities like power it's
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not that far uh but that's I think what
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they are maybe scared of as an ISP the
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FCC has continued to push a national
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security angle for this uh previously
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they pushed a more consumer angle from
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our observation of how things have gone
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down so definitely a change in tone and
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what they're focused on um the material
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we saw was much less consumer focused
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this time next one RX 7800 XT price
RX 7800 XT Drops to $470
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drops to
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$470 so uh the powercolor hellhound 7800
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XT has dropped to a new low with the
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price of
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$470 available from Newegg by way of
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eBay this is $31 less than its original
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$500 price that puts it in spitting
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distance of nvidia's 4060 TI 16 gab
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which currently retails for $450 and
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remains a waste of money for anyone who
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just wants it for gaming uh when we
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reviewed the 7800 XT back in September
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we concluded that it's one of the better
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value cards this generation thus far
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we've reviewed the powercolor hellhound
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cards in the past so for the 7900 XT
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model we found it to be a good cheap
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performer and the cards official product
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page for the 7800 XT Hound mentions that
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it offers dual bio support and features
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like a physical LED switch on the cart
Rumor: PS5 Pro Inbound
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after speculation that A PS5 Pro was
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inbound it's inbound it's really only a
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couple versions of consoles out there
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there's Slims pros and bass models so it
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wasn't inevitable at some point uh this
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one comes from The Verge which reports
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that it has obtained documents
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confirming the console's existence and
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The Verge says that those documents
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indicate it'll be called the PS5 Pro
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Trinity or in other words the PS5 3 Sony
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allegedly views this as a quote high-end
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version of the PlayStation 5 and says
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that it's one that'll focus on improving
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rate tracing so this would be a maybe
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more typical mid generation refresh it's
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a reminder the PlayStation 5 originally
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came out in 2020
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and it's approaching four years old at
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this point so it's relatively new in
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console years the PlayStation 2 is
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something like a decade or somewhere in
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that range of life but the Verge reports
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that the new one will quote include a
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more powerful GPU and a slightly faster
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CPU mode elaborating on performance the
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publication wrote quote Sony expects GPU
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rendering on the PS5 Pro to be about 45%
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faster than the standard PS5 adding the
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PS5 Pro GPU will be larger and use
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faster system memory to help improve R
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tracing in games they say that Sony is
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also using a more powerful R tracing
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architecture in the PS5 Pro where the
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speed here is up to three times better
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than the regular PS5 the article
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likewise claims a 350 MHz clock bump
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which is pretty big and says that
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developers may be able to pick between
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modes for lower or higher frequencies
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this uh could maybe make sense if the
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developer is optimizing a heavier game
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to spec down to better work on the older
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device or on the other side of things uh
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if they have a game that already runs
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fine on the older device they could
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maybe find ways to uh utilize The
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increased memory from we'll get there uh
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increased capabilities of the GPU
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whatever with higher quality assets
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things like higher resolution textures
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things like that so there's a few
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options there uh and the claim is that
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there's going to be multiple modes for
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which the games can be built now
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elaborating to the ram changes The Verge
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stated that quote the PS5 Pro will also
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have some changes to system memory for
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developers the standard PS5 memory runs
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at 448 GB per second but Sony's bumping
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it up 28% to 576 GB per second on the
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PS5 Pro they say the Verge also claims
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that quote developers will get more
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access to overall system memory games
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can use an additional 1.2 GB on the PS5
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Pro so that's 13.7 versus 12.5 allocated
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to games on the Basse PS5 now this could
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manifest in a couple ways as well so
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first again is for the p PC audience we
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may see a kind of knock on effect to
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this because a lot of games come from
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console and are ported or uh they are
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built for all platforms simultaneously
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and in either case they're going to
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build to the spec probably of the
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consoles in some capacity so an increase
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in memory available there might mean an
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increase in vram as an example uh
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requirements for games on the PC now in
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this case that bump isn't massive it's
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not the same as a generational bump but
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1.2 GB increase
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still a lot it's enough to push you into
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another class of GPU depend on what you
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have so we could see that pop up in a
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couple years as developers have had time
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to get games out to actually utilize
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this memory change now another way this
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could materialize is an increase to
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Graphics quality on the PS5 Pro as
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opposed to the PS5 if the developers
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leverage that for say higher resolution
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textures or something along those lines
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now additionally if Sony's moving
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forward with its pssr or its own super
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resolution technology then GPU load
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might decrease at least with relation to
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resolution while the CPU capabilities
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would be less constrained by the GPU in
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that instance the increase in Ray
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tracing Focus here uh maybe could mean
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that super resolution instead could be
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used to kind of free up some aspect of
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GPU processing capabilities to instead
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Leverage The GPU on allow it to
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basically crunch on other things like
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rate tracing well that one's interesting
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because um the rate tracing is one that
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that sort of maybe toggling or reducing
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bounces or something like that it's just
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seems like it'll be hard to fully
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represent the same experience on both
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devices if there's going to be this big
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push for increased rate tracing
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capabilities but we'll see how it pans
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out the Verge also reports quote Sony
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has built a custom architecture for
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machine learning on the PS5 Pro which
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support 300 tops of 8 bit computation uh
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they say and we're not sure how that'd
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be used at this point the publication
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here's that game developers are able to
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order test kits now that means that
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there's going to be a lot of leaks in
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the coming months as developers get
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their hands on these the plan apparently
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is to get this launched by holiday
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season this year to be uh available
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alongside the original PS5 not outright
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replacing it up next if you've got a
Z790 Problems on Gigabyte
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gigabyte z790 board gigabyte is warning
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against using the latest beta bios
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apparently it's causing the BIOS to
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freeze it's totally uncool while the
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BIOS update was supposed to support
20:26
Intel's 14900 K CPU that just launched
20:29
and enable Intel APO which got updates
20:32
we talked about recently instead users
20:34
are experiencing Frozen bioses videoc
20:37
cards.com reports that this has impacted
20:39
more than just a single motherboard but
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quote all boards that were recently
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updated unfortunately it seems like
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early adopters got the short end of the
20:47
stick with Taiwanese publication unico's
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Hardware reporting negative feedback
20:52
from users who say things like quote if
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I boot into BIOS I'm unable to change
20:56
anything no matter what I do or click
20:58
the first 10 seconds or so the BIOS
21:00
freezes other users also reported the
21:02
same and the UEFI has been called
21:05
unusable now gigabyte has followed this
21:07
up and has warned against using that
21:09
version they're working on another
21:11
update that should fix all these issues
21:13
and then that'll roll out if it's not
21:14
already out might be by the time this
21:16
news video goes up with that said if you
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own an AR z790 board probably best to
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wait for the stable bios to come out
21:23
also just kind of a general commentary
21:25
here but uh whenever bioses come out
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personally speaking as in on systems I
21:29
use but not for testing and things like
21:32
that it's good to stay updated for
21:34
security reasons at the same time I
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personally still will wait like at least
21:38
a month to sometimes three months just
21:41
to make sure any issues like this have
21:43
been worked out because uh if there's
21:46
going to be a problem with a perfectly
21:48
working setup normally it comes from
21:49
either a Windows update thanks Microsoft
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this actually this computer behind me
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was stuck updating earlier it kept
21:56
rolling back or it comes from the uh the
22:00
bioses that come out and actually on the
22:02
count of this system behind me I I
22:05
considered just filming with a giant
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windows's updating logo on that Center
22:11
screen right there and uh unfortunately
22:13
it sorted itself out before we started
Ubisoft Takes Away Games
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we got a good one up next it's Ubisoft
22:18
they're back previously Ubisoft said
22:21
people should feel comfortable with not
22:23
owning their games direct quote by the
22:25
way and they cited that they intended to
22:28
make good on the gaming libraries and
22:30
gaming streaming services among others
22:33
and make sure you'd always have access
22:34
to your
22:36
games except for the ones they remove
22:38
like the crew which they just removed
22:41
but don't worry they won't take access
22:44
away to games people who purchased
22:46
copies of the online only racing game
22:48
got this message upon trying to launch
22:50
the game recently it says you no longer
22:53
have access to this game why not check
22:55
the store to pursue your adventures uh
22:59
here's why last time I did that you took
23:02
it away this is some of the most toned
23:04
deaf advertising for a digital game
23:07
store I think I've ever
23:09
seen just like sorry the one you clicked
23:12
on that you bought and paid for from us
23:15
is gone or that you've invested money
23:18
into somehow and um anyway how about
23:21
giving us some more of that money PC
23:23
Gamer reports that the crew has been
23:25
moved to a player Library labeled
23:27
inactive game which again is not
23:30
encouraging to have a entire subfolder
23:34
that exists for a store that can charge
23:36
you for games and then just dump them
23:38
into that folder whenever they feel like
23:40
it personally I just think that's how
23:41
they should work you buy the game and
23:44
then once you download it it just moves
23:45
it into that inactive games folder and
23:47
that's the end of the whole transaction
23:49
you've actually beaten the game it's
23:51
just the the part where you play it we
23:54
don't need to do that one takes a lot of
23:56
time anyway and so you get all of the
23:58
satisfaction of having defeated the game
24:00
without needing to sink all that time
24:02
into it but you still get to pay the
24:03
money for it so it still feels like
24:05
you've earned
24:07
something I think that's how I think
24:09
that's what I think that's how it works
24:11
we previously reported on how Ubisoft
24:13
director of subscriptions Philip tremble
24:15
stated quote I still have two boxes of
24:17
DVDs that's a hell of an appeal to
24:19
Authority I can trust this guy on
24:21
physical media quote I definitely
24:23
understand the gamers perspective with
24:25
that but as people Embrace that
24:27
subscription model they will see that
24:29
these games will exist the services will
24:31
continue and you'll be able to access
24:33
them whenever you feel like that's
24:35
reassuring they access them whenever you
24:37
feel like they maybe just strike that
24:40
part from the record it's you can access
24:42
them whenever Ubisoft feels like that's
24:44
what they meant so when they said
24:46
whenever you feel like it's just a typo
24:49
I actually was using Shand so uh
24:51
internally they everyone knows they just
24:53
shorten Ubisoft to just you the letter
24:55
and when the journalist transcribe the
24:57
statement didn't realize that it's
24:59
actually it's shorthand for Ubisoft you
25:01
can access it whenever Ubisoft feels
25:03
like and this all comes at a time when a
25:04
cured Farms is working on uh right of
25:07
ownership for games and if if ever he
25:11
needed more proof uh of the problem then
25:16
this definitely came to provide that
25:19
it's perfect timing for that discussion
25:21
all right next one we'll definitely have
25:25
we'll be back to this Ubisoft thing I
25:26
have a lot more thoughts on it uh we'll
25:28
let them we'll let them cook a little
25:30
longer all right that's it for Harbor
25:31
news this week we filmed it over 2 days
25:33
because we're in the middle of all the
25:34
EK stuff so that's everything for you
25:36
covers a wide span so the first half is
25:39
the most recent news St from the past
25:41
week and then you've got some from the
25:42
week before as well just because we
25:43
skipped there so uh that gets you all up
25:46
to speed thanks for watching we have a
25:47
ton of stuff coming out we're in the
25:49
reviews area of things now taking a
25:51
break from some of the investigations
25:52
although tips are still coming in so
25:54
we'll see if anything changes there but
25:56
uh largely pending ek's actions
25:58
decisions at this point so that's it for
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this one thanks for watching subscribe
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for more we'll see you all next time

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