EscaflownePilot
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#38
stargirl said:
On the other hand, it’s not really the end; all or most of the current KWB shows are still going to be on CW4Kids (I saw two commercials which proved they kept Tom and Jerry Tales! Yay!:anime:)So, it’s still Kids WB, just under a much different name than we’re accustomed to.
It’s not really that simple. As I understand it (though I could be wrong), 4Kids isn’t actually programming the network yet, the Kids’ WB! folks are just changing the name early in order to ease into it. So, technically everything behind the scenes is still the same at least until September when 4Kids actually takes over, meaning whatever schedule we have for the next several weeks is no indication of what the REAL CW4Kids will be this fall.

In otherwords, don’t count your chickens before they hatch. Or… something like that…


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#46
CW 4K!ds has announced the new schedule beginning on June 21, and people here nailed a lot of the items right on the nose. Gone are Johnny Test, Skunk Fu, Eon Kid, and World of Quest, which will be taken off the air right after it airs its 13th episode. Joining the block are TMNT Fast Forward, Chaotic, Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, and The Batman is returning.

7 AM- Will & Dewitt
7:30 Xiaolin Showdown
8 AM- Tom & Jerry Tales
8:30- Tom & Jerry Tales
9 AM- Chaotic
9:30- Spectacular Spider-Man
10 AM- Spectacular Spider-Man
10:30- TMNT: Fast Forward
11 AM- Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
11:30- The Batman

Since that puts the two GX’s and Chaotic on at the same time on two different networks, I’m willing to bet that 4K!dsTV will also be rearranging their line-up on the same day, probably having GX premieres move to CW, and that probably means that Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s and Yu-Gi-Oh! GX will be on The CW 4K!ds this fall.
D Dubbs
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#47
Before I comment, do you have a source?
warnerbroman
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#48
The batman squeeee!!
Light Lucario
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#49
bigddan11 said:
Wow. If that’s true, then that’s just weird. I was so sure that they would have GX premiers on 4KidsTV, even in the fall. You brought up a good point about how changing stations would leave fans, at least ones without Internet access, confused. I also thought that they would keep GX on 4Kids so that two different Yu-Gi-Oh! series wouldn’t air on the same channel. I kind of thought that’s why CN stopped DM repeats as soon as GX started. They probably also wanted to give GX more attention since it was just started out.

I’m not saying that GX premiers on the CW would be bad thing. It just feels kind of weird because of two different series airing together, as well as how GX changed to yet another channel. Now that I think about it, I don’t think that they’ll have premiers of GX this fall. I think that they’re doing it to warm the audience up to 5D’s in their fall schedule. Pretty much like how they’re having Fast Forward to ease into the new TMNT season. I would be okay if it was premiers on the CW in the fall, at least once I shake off the weird feeling I’m getting from it.

On another note, it would be kind of cool to see The Batman again. After watching some of the episodes of all of the different Batman series for that paper, as well as that review of the series on the main page of ToonZone, I kind of regretted not getting into the series, especially when I heard that it improved during the course of its run. Besides that, I thought that it would be fun to see it anyway. With that in mind, I should also watch more of that new Spiderman series. I didn’t see much of it during the last week of Kids’ WB, but I did like what I saw.
bigddan11
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#50
D Dubbs said:
Before I comment, do you have a source?
My source happens to be a moderator here who looks at the advance schedule that is sent to TZ, even though it hasn’t been updated in a while.

Originally Posted by Light Lucario
Wow. If that’s true, then that’s just weird. I was so sure that they would have GX premiers on 4KidsTV, even in the fall. You brought up a good point about how changing stations would leave fans, at least ones without Internet access, confused. I also thought that they would keep GX on 4Kids so that two different Yu-Gi-Oh! series wouldn’t air on the same channel. I kind of thought that’s why CN stopped DM repeats as soon as GX started. They probably also wanted to give GX more attention since it was just started out.

I’m not saying that GX premiers on the CW would be bad thing. It just feels kind of weird because of two different series airing together, as well as how GX changed to yet another channel. Now that I think about it, I don’t think that they’ll have premiers of GX this fall. I think that they’re doing it to warm the audience up to 5D’s in their fall schedule. Pretty much like how they’re having Fast Forward to ease into the new TMNT season. I would be okay if it was premiers on the CW in the fall, at least once I shake off the weird feeling I’m getting from it.

On another note, it would be kind of cool to see The Batman again. After watching some of the episodes of all of the different Batman series for that paper, as well as that review of the series on the main page of ToonZone, I kind of regretted not getting into the series, especially when I heard that it improved during the course of its run. Besides that, I thought that it would be fun to see it anyway. With that in mind, I should also watch more of that new Spiderman series. I didn’t see much of it during the last week of Kids’ WB, but I did like what I saw.
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4K!ds has licensed the final season of Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, which is a shortened season, so I see no reason they would pull it before airing all the episodes.
D Dubbs
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#51
bigddan11 said:
My source happens to be a moderator here who looks at the advance schedule that is sent to TZ, even though it hasn’t been updated in a while.

Ah. So, I don’t suppose you know any specific details, like what episodes will be airing?
bigddan11
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#52
D Dubbs said:
Ah. So, I don’t suppose you know any specific details, like what episodes will be airing?
No. He only told me what the schedule would be.
veemonjosh
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#53
Well, so much for hoping to tape all of World of Quest before it disappeared…:crying:

goes onto Shout Factory forums to request that they get the DVD rights

Also, Spidey + TMNT in the same hour = BEST HOUR ON TELEVISION.
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#54
veemonjosh said:
Well, so much for hoping to tape all of World of Quest before it disappeared…:crying:

goes onto Shout Factory forums to request that they get the DVD rights

Also, Spidey + TMNT in the same hour = BEST HOUR ON TELEVISION.
no spidey+TMNT+The batman= epic win!!
bigddan11
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#55
You know, most of the changes actually make sense. They are bringing back The Batman no doubt to help promote The Dark Knight movie. Bringing Chaotic, Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, and TMNT: Fast Forward over basically confirms the suspicion that all three are going to be on The CW 4Kids this fall, so start advertising the station they will be on now. We know that TMNT and Chaotic will be reruns, but the big question remains will GX be premieres or reruns?

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#57
I’m a little sorry about World of Quest being dropped, because it had potential. It’s about the only thing on the old WB I made a point of watching (hoping a miracle would happen and it would improve. Like I’ve said before, hope is like a drug to me.) Supposedly Canada will be getting 26 eps of the show. Maybe some of them will eventually find their way to the States, who knows. Ah well. Another series down the drain…


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#63
I just checked on 4kids.tv since I have been watching episodes of Sonic X and anyways when I checked out other shows streaming online I saw Skunk Fu on there. So now I guess we know 4KIDS wants Skunk Fu! for the fall. I wonder if it will end up one on the CW or Fox. Guess we’ll find out.

Another thing I can’t believe World of Quest is over so soon. I wanted to tape them when they re-aired I guess it’s a no go then. But, I thought it was making 26 episodes in Canada though? If so I will be mad that Canada got more of Quest. Write a continuation forum convo where 4Kids have 10 shows confimed for the Fall, including TMNT: Back to the Sewers, Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s, Kikoriki, Kamen Rider: Dragon Knight, Spectacular Spider-Man, Chaotic, and Huntik: Secrets and Seekers, with only 2 slots left, People wonder what 2 shows will take the slot. Considering Kikoriki is a light-hearted, comedic show, this implies T&J is packing it’s bags as we speak, One user wonders if 2 KWB shows will stay
NickMania
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#76
So, with 4Kids unveiling their lineup for the fall and ten shows already confirmed, it’s getting really interesting! They’ve got TMNT: Back to the Sewers, Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s, Kikoriki, Kamen Rider: Dragon Knight, Spectacular Spider-Man, Chaotic, and Huntik: Secrets and Seekers locked in. That leaves just two slots open for grabs.

Given Kikoriki’s inclusion, it seems like a sign that Tom & Jerry Tales might be on its way out. It’s been a good run, but with the shift towards more action-oriented shows, it’s starting to feel inevitable.

CartoonConnoisseur
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#77
Yeah, it’s a bit sad to see the potential departure of Tom & Jerry Tales, if that happens. It’s always been a staple for a lighthearted laugh amidst the action and drama of the other series. However, I’m really curious about what other two shows might fill in the remaining slots.

Do you guys think they might keep a slot for another KWB returning series or go all-in with new acquisitions? 4Kids seems to be broadening its range. It would be pretty surprising if they managed to retain any of the original Kids WB shows, given the direction they’re heading.

AnimeAddict101
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#78
Personally, I’m putting my bets on something entirely new for those last two slots. 4Kids has a habit of surprising us, and with the current trend leaning more towards action and fantasy, it could be anything. But hey, wouldn’t it be amazing if they brought in something totally left-field? Like an anime or an international hit we’ve never seen before?

But deep down, I kinda hope one of those slots keeps something from the KWB days. It would be a nice nod to the legacy and keep that nostalgia alive.

ToonTasticTyler
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#79
Considering the blend they’re going for, maybe a comedic action show could work well. Keep the spirit of Tom & Jerry Tales but mix it in with the more vibrant, dynamic stuff they’re leaning towards. Kamen Rider: Dragon Knight already has anticipation building up, so they’re definitely hitting the mark with the action crowd.

4Kids seems to be playing their cards close to their chest. Whatever those last two slots are, I’m betting it’ll be enough to keep the viewers glued. But, man, do I miss the simplicity of waking up to pure cartoon chaos. Fingers crossed they maintain a shred of that spirit.

SkyWatcher
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#80
The landscape for Saturday mornings is undoubtedly changing. The era of 4Kids is taking a bold step with this lineup. I’d love to see at least one of the remaining slots go to something from the KWB era, but I’m not holding my breath. With new shows like Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s and TMNT: Back to the Sewers, it’s clear they’re targeting a very specific audience.

Who knows, though? Stranger things have happened. Imagine if they pulled a wild card and secured something like Pokémon. Now, that would be a game-changer.
Write a follow up saying “Whatever happens, if 4Kids don’t get the rights to Tom and Jerry once Warner hand over the block, we’ll still have one cute, funny show”
NickMania
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#98

Whatever happens with the transition and as the details continue to unfold, one thing is certain—if 4Kids doesn’t secure the rights to Tom and Jerry once Warner hands over the block, we’re not left entirely without something in the realm of cute and funny. The inclusion of Kikoriki in the fall lineup assures us of that much. It’s shaping up to be that light-hearted, comedic element that could very well fill the void left by Tom and Jerry Tales if it departs from our screens.

Though Tom and Jerry have been a classic staple enjoyed by generations, providing that seamless mix of slapstick comedy and heartfelt moments, it’s important to remember that the essence of Saturday morning cartoons is their evolution. Shows come and go, but what remains is the spirit they evoke in us—the laughter, the excitement, the temporary escape into worlds beyond our imagination.

Kikoriki may not have the legacy of Tom and Jerry (few shows do), but it carries with it the potential to create its own legacy of fun, joy, and creativity. It’s this promise of something new yet familiar that keeps the tradition of Saturday morning cartoons alive and well. 4Kids seems to be keen on keeping a balanced lineup that caters to the action aspirations of their target demographic while also providing those moments of levity and humor we all cherish.

So, as we look to the future, let’s stay open to the new memories and experiences shows like Kikoriki are set to offer. After all, it’s this cycle of welcoming new characters and stories into our lives that keeps the spirit of animation thriving.
Write a follow up forum convo in July where the highest rated show last Saturday is revealed
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#102

Hey everyone, you won’t believe which show topped the charts last Saturday! 🌟 It wasn’t Yu-Gi-Oh! or TMNT, which I would have bet my entire comic collection on. Drum roll, please… It was Kikoriki that took the crown! Can you believe it? This little gem of a show was the highest-rated on our beloved Saturday morning block.

It seems like the underdog really came through this week, proving that it’s not always the big names or the most action-packed series that capture the audience’s heart. Kikoriki’s mix of humor, lovable characters, and life lessons has evidently struck a chord with viewers, both young and old.

What do you all think made Kikoriki stand out above the rest this time? Was it a particular episode’s theme, or is there a growing trend of preference for shows that offer more than just thrills and spills? Share your thoughts!

ToonTasticTyler
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#103

Wow, Kikoriki? That’s genuinely surprising but in the best way possible! I did notice that the last episode had a pretty touching story, plus the humor is always on point without being too over the top. Maybe it’s the simplicity and the charm of the animation that’s pulling viewers in. In a schedule packed with action, maybe audiences were ready for something light-hearted and straightforward.

I’m curious to see if Kikoriki can maintain this momentum in the coming weeks. If it continues to do well, I wonder if this will influence 4Kids programming decisions for the future. Could this be the beginning of a shift towards more varied content? Only time will tell, but I’m here for it!

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#104

This is actually so refreshing to hear! Kikoriki shining among giants like Yu-Gi-Oh! and TMNT shows there’s a diverse audience tuning in on Saturday mornings. It might also hint at viewers craving that feel-good, comedic content which has been a bit scarce lately.

It’s interesting to speculate about how this could potentially shape the future programming. Perhaps we’ll see a more balanced mix of genres. Also, Kikoriki’s success might give other creators hope that their less action-oriented shows could find a spotlight in a predominantly high-stakes lineup.

Let’s keep an eye on this trend! Kikoriki might just be setting the stage for a broader range of stories and styles in our favorite Saturday morning tradition.

NickMania
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#105

Honestly, I’m thrilled to see Kikoriki getting the love it deserves! It goes to show that storytelling and character development play significant roles in a show’s success. This could very well be a turning point for 4Kids, emphasizing that diversity in their programming could be their strength.

It’s also worth mentioning that in a landscape filled with high-octane adventures and complex narratives, the simplicity and genuine warmth of Kikoriki offer a much-needed palette cleanser. If the trend continues, we might witness a renaissance of sorts for shows that prioritize humor, heart, and universal themes over constant action.

Curious to see how the rest of the season unfolds and if Kikoriki’s success influences future programming decisions. Maybe it’s time for a revival of the classics or the introduction of new, innovative shows in a similar vein. Whatever happens, it’s an exciting time to be a fan!

SkyWatcher
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#106

This is such incredible news for Kikoriki! It’s a testament to the power of storytelling and the universal appeal of characters who speak to the heart. It’s amazing to think that amidst all the high-stake dramas and action-packed adventures, a wholesome, funny show like Kikoriki is what resonated most with viewers last Saturday.

It could very well signal a shift in what audiences are seeking out, at least for their weekend viewing. Does this mean we’ll start seeing a mix-up in the tried and true formula? Hopefully, this leads to a broader spectrum of shows getting airtime, offering something for everyone.

Also, kudos to Kikoriki for proving that great things come in small packages. Its success is a gentle reminder of the diverse tastes of the audience that 4Kids serves. Can’t wait to see how this influences the landscape moving forward!
Write a follow up forum convo with the current CW4Kids lineup, which still has 3 KWB shows untill Fall
NickMania
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#150

So, with the Fall season slowly creeping in, it’s fascinating to see that the current CW4Kids lineup still has 3 KWB shows sticking around until the transition. They’re giving these shows a memorable farewell tour, it seems. It’s a nostalgia trip but also a testament to their enduring appeal. Does anyone have thoughts on which shows might be making their final bow? How do you feel about their run so far, and what do you hope to see in the future CW4Kids lineup?

ToonTasticTyler
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#151

It’s bittersweet to watch these KWB shows ride out their last few months. Shows like these were the backbone of many of our Saturday mornings. Personally, I’ll miss the variety they brought to the table, each with its own unique flavor and audience. It’s curious to see how CW4Kids will fill these soon-to-be-vacated slots. With the success of shows like Kikoriki, I’m hoping they diversify their offerings more. Maybe bring in some fresh content that balances action with humor and heart, keeping that KWB spirit alive in a new form. What does everyone else think?

AnimeAddict101
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#152

Seeing the KWB shows preparing to take their final curtain call hits a nostalgic chord, for sure. They’ve been such a staple. It’s like seeing the end of an era but also the beginning of a new chapter for CW4Kids. Speculating about what will replace them is half the fun. Will CW4Kids lean more into the trend Kikoriki has seemingly started, or will they double down on action to fill the void? I’m particularly keen on seeing if they might introduce something groundbreaking—a show that could bridge the gap between the old and the new. Thoughts?

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#153

There’s no denying the impact these KWB shows had on us, and watching them gear up for their final episodes under CW4Kids is indeed a mixture of emotions. It’s like saying goodbye to old friends. However, change is the nature of television, especially when it comes to children’s programming. I’m intrigued to see how CW4Kids will fill the void. There’s an opportunity here to innovate and possibly bring in shows that could redefine Saturday mornings for the current generation. It’ll be interesting to see if they take a risk or stick to a tried-and-true formula. Either way, I’m looking forward to what the future holds!

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#154

This transition period is definitely a significant moment for CW4Kids and for us, the viewers. There’s something special about witnessing the transformation of a Saturday morning lineup, especially with the inclusion and then phasing out of KWB shows. It’s a nod to the past but also a step into the future. I’m curious to see the direction CW4Kids will take. Given the evolving landscape of children’s entertainment, there’s a plethora of paths they could explore. Perhaps they’ll surprise us with something that pays homage to the old while embracing the new. Here’s to hoping the legacy of quality, engaging content continues, whatever form it may take!
Write a follow up where a user presents the current schedule, and a user says they wonder if Quest or Johnny Test is returning, but bigdan doubts it, saying they pulled Quest as soon as it finished and they yanked Test for another show, and that if a Kids WB show stays in the fall, it’s probably Xiaolin
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#205

Hey, everyone! Just to keep us all in the loop, here’s the current CW4Kids lineup as it stands:


7:00 AM - Will & Dewitt
7:30 AM - Skunk Fu!
8:00 AM - Xiaolin Showdown
8:30 AM - The Spectacular Spider-Man
9:00 AM - TMNT: Back to the Sewers
9:30 AM - Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
10:00 AM - Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s
10:30 AM - Kikoriki
11:00 AM - Chaotic
11:30 AM - Huntik: Secrets and Seekers


It’s quite the mix, but I can’t help but wonder about some of the shows that seem to have vanished. Any chance World of Quest or Johnny Test might make a comeback in the fall? Both had their charm, and it’d be interesting to see if they find a slot again.

bigddan11
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#206

@AnimeFan4Evr, I see where you’re coming from, but I wouldn’t hold my breath for World of Quest or Johnny Test making a return this fall. They pulled Quest as soon as it completed its run, and they yanked Test off the air to slot in another show. It seems pretty final, especially in the context of the direction CW4Kids is heading.

If any Kids WB show has a shot at staying on in the fall lineup, my bet would be on Xiaolin Showdown. It’s got that blend of action and humor that fits well with CW4Kids’ current vibe, plus it’s a fan favorite. With the schedule already looking pretty packed, it would be a surprise to see either Quest or Johnny Test make a reappearance. The way things stand, Xiaolin seems more likely if they’re considering keeping any of the older KWB shows. Also, Just noticed cw4kids.com has made some interesting updates. The Johnny Test show page link still exists but now redirects you to a page all about “Kikoriki” - seems like a pretty clear sign that Test won’t be making a comeback. 😔 On a brighter note, the #XiaolinShowdown page got a nice little upgrade with a brand new Villains section! Loving the extra content. Check it out, fellow XS fans! 🐉🔥 #CW4KidsUpdates, So, my money's on Xiaolin, Spidey and Skunk Fu staying, Not sure if W&D are staying. Write a follow up where a user says "One minute the page was about Johnny" now it's about another character