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 Title: Steve Kaufmann - How to learn Russian and other languages
Description: Yes, I can hear it now.
Great!
Super!
Well, first of all, Steve, my first question is,
yes, how does a Russian person say, “can I switch to ‘you’?”
Of course, of course, that's what I prefer.
On "you" - it's more natural, more natural.
Yes, that's true, good, thanks!
And first of all, I want to thank you very much for taking
the time, for finding this time.
Because I'm happy that I can talk to you
and ask you some questions.
I've watched several of your videos.
Very interesting, very good videos.
When, for example, you were skiing on the lake.
Yes, lake.
It could be in Canada, you know.
I have not been to Canada, but, yes, I understand that Canada and Russia
are similar in terms of weather.
Very much yes!
OK then.
And tell me please.
Here you are, I know, you recently arrived from
Europe, right?
You went to Europe, but can you tell us a little
about where you went, what you did?
Maybe it was a conference of polyglots?
No, it was... firstly, I want... how to say this...
You know, I speak Russian, I speak maybe not
as fluently as a few years ago, because
now the last few I've been studying
other languages ​​for years. Arabic and Persian
and also Ukrainian can be mixed with Russian.
Language is communication.
But I was with my wife, we were in Europe, it was our 50th
wedding anniversary.
It's an anniversary, right?
Anniversary, yes. 50 years.
And the wife, she really likes to play golf.
And in Spain there was a golf academy, in Catalonia, Girona.
And we decided to participate.
We have never been to Croatia, how can I say this?
Croatia, yes.
We were 10 days in Croatia.
Very beautiful!
Mountains, and very beautiful.
And then 10 days in Spain. Here is the question right away, two questions immediately
appeared
to me
. First, here's one thing, one secret from Steve Kaufman.
How to live 50 years with your wife?
How, how can one person do this?
Is there any secret or advice for young people
who also want to live this long?
How to say this...
I have to think that you... I can’t solve everything, I have to
admit that she has her own life and her own problems,
and maybe, for example... when we had arguments,
it was , when, for example, I’m at work, I’m very busy
and there’s a lot of this.
And when I returned home, my wife had her own problems.
With a child, with children.
And you need to not only think about yourself.
But it’s clear, that is, you need to be able to negotiate and
not be too selfish.
Yes?
Yes.
Negotiate and...
Compromises, maybe Russian?
I forgot my Russian.
Respect.
Respect each other.
Mutually respect.
Mutual respect, yes.
Fine.
Thank you.
And the second question is: tell me, in your travels,
you travel a lot, yes.
Well, I travel a little too.
And I’m wondering: Russian language, do you often use it
when traveling?
Does he often help you?
And in general, has the Russian language ever helped you when traveling?
Maybe in Croatia?
Certainly.
First of all, I started learning Russian when I was
60 years old.
And this was a big discovery for me.
This opens the door.
Not only to the Russian world.
Let's say Russian literature, Russian culture.
This includes Czech, Japanese, and Ukrainian.
Slavic world.
There are Romance languages, there are Asian ones.
Latin.
There are definitely connections between Arabic, Persian,
Turkish. And every time I learn a new language, it's
a discovery.
Of course, the Russian language is Russian literature,
Russian stories.
And in the case of the Russian language, there are a lot of very
good books.
It's not like Spanish, where there isn't that much.
And I could for example...
I love 19th century literature.
Or the beginning of the 20th century.
And all this can be found for free on the Internet, I can
import to link to save words and
phrases.
I hear a lot.
This is very very helpful, it was very very good.
I enjoyed.
But when I travel, of course, when I'm in Israel, I
don't speak Hebrew.
In Hebrew.
But in Israel, if a person doesn't know English, it's...
it's rare.
But if he doesn’t know English, he’s a person from Russia.
Grandmother who works in a supermarket.
Supermarket.
I can speak Russian.
They are very happy when I talk to them.
Certainly.
Of course, in Ukraine, Kiev and then to the east everyone speaks
Russian.
But when I'm in Lviv, I try to speak Ukrainian.
But of course they also speak Russian.
Well, yes.
Sometimes, well, in Spain, there are also a lot of people from Russia.
It’s when I listen to either Russian, or Chinese, or some
language that I know, then I love talking to these people.
It happens.
Besides this, the nations... are Croatian, they speak
English very well.
I was very surprised by the level of English.
I tried to study. a little bit Croatian, because
with Czech and Russian it’s not very difficult.
But they have a very, very good level of English.
But in Bosnia it is less.
Therefore, in Bosnia I could speak a little Croatian.
That is, it turns out that...
But except for the Russian language.
Well, of course, old people, I think.
In the link, for example, we had members from Lithuania, Poland,
old ones - 50 years and more.
They also speak Russian.
Tell me please, do you remember the moment when
you started, when you just started?
When did you get the idea that: damn, I want you
to learn Russian.
Do you remember that moment?
This is the moment.
This is the moment.
And this is how it was and this is how you started?
If you can even tell me, if you remember,
what were your steps?
Well, I always, I liked Russian literature.
I read Dostoevsky and Tolstoy when I was
18 years old.
But in English.
And for me it turned out that it would be interesting to read
Russian literature in the original, in Russian.
But let's say the flow... why I started.
Because I always thought that to learn languages ​​you don’t
have to focus on grammar.
On the contrary, it has many negative results.
People told me that this might work in the case of
Chinese and Japanese.
Russian language is very difficult.
It is very difficult to understand him.
This does not work.
Does it work or not?
Works.
But I can not.
Of course, we need to, we need to look, yes, at the grammar. I need to get to know something
.
But I don't think we can....
Because Russian grammar is very complicated.
Lots and lots of mistakes, lots of explanations.
And if you don’t have enough experience with the language, it means that after
you’ve heard a lot, read a lot, you have a feeling
about the language.
If you have, you can then focus
on grammar.
Because explanation has connections, meanings.
They talk about things you already know.
If you don’t know this, you don’t have this experience, and people
told you: buy, yes, buy tomorrow.
I understand or I don’t understand.
And if you don't have experience, you don't (...) it, it's too
difficult.
It can't be that difficult.
And then, when you already have this, this experience, but
now I understand, I have done it many times and now it matters
and the process is to understand the rules and then remember,
and then use.
And this is also very difficult.
Just like Russian people, who know that, in principle,
there is an article in English.
But to use is another matter.
Yes.
That is, to know...
Because in Russian there is no.
And it's the same situation for us.
We do not have a perfect form/imperfect form.
No.
So even if I understand when I speak, it is very
difficult.
It's clear.
That is, you need to distinguish, yes, two things.
The first is such an understanding, yes, such a theoretical one.
That, yes, I understand that there is this article, there is
that article.
There is a perfect form, there is an imperfect form.
And another thing is to already have experience, yes, some kind of interaction
with this grammar, and then it will all tie together.
That is, if you just teach, then you kind of... it's
like, I don't know.
As a physicist, you sit, you draw something on the board,
yes, the law of gravity, for example.
But you don’t understand that this is it, yes, this is a law,
a physical law.
All you see is this thing on the board.
Also here.
That is, practice and theory.
But please tell me, if we are talking about
the Russian language, yes.
That is, a huge amount of, yes, grammar.
For example, let's take cases or verbs
of motion.
Very difficult!
Walk, approach, come, enter, leave, find.
Tough!
Nightmare!
How do we live?
Here.
And here is the question.
If you start, yes, or continue to study the language,
if you are not yet a master, yes, not a sensei.
How do you understand what needs to be taught and what not?
There is, let’s say, I don’t know, a list of thousands of verbs
of motion, yes, of different forms.
How to choose?
I think, I am sure that you need to choose a minimum of some,
and not think about everything else for now.
Don't think about it for now.
It depends on the goal.
For me to understand, yes, most of all I hear
and read.
Because there aren't many people here that you can talk to.
But I listen and read.
And, get there, drive... I understand. From the point of view of understanding
there is no problem.
OK.
But the question is, how did you understand this?
So, just grammar books?
Well, I read, of course, I read these rules, but I don’t think
I can remember it and not use it.
But when I see it, I listen, I see, I read why,
where, step by step, I begin to use it more
and more correctly.
And if every time I have to think, if it’s to get there
or go, or something, I can’t talk.
So I sometimes read... I think, by the way.
I think that when, for example,
almost everyone understands my level of Russian , I have a huge feasible
vocabulary.
But I very rarely speak.
If I now focus on Russian to improve
my level, speak more correctly, yes, I would like to
read grammars in Russian.
Explanation in Russian.
And listen.
And hear.
There are a lot of lessons where everything will be in Russian and
the explanations will be in Russian, and I think that through this I could
improve my level a little.
And therefore, if I live in Russia, yes, for three months,
then I will communicate with Russians.
And I will try to use it, I will listen to it and little by little
my level will improve.
It's very difficult in Vancouver.
Therefore, I know everything, the more I speak, the more
I speak correctly, and if for a long time like now,
it will be harder not to speak for a long time.
More mistakes, yes.
But it doesn't bother me, right?
Doesn't bother me.
People understand me. I speak and you understand me, right?
Absolutely.
No, I agree!
People understand me.
But if I wanted it... but mastery does not exist.
If I want to improve my level, then I will read
books about Russian grammar in Russian.
But tell me.
At what point should you try to start learning
Russian, or English, yes.
Russian in Russian, English in English.
That is, do not use your native language.
That is, if I, for example, study Chinese, yes, then
study Chinese in Chinese.
Or if I’m studying Russian, then start learning Russian
in Russian.
At what point is it better to do this?
I think it's a matter of taste.
I think I prefer a bilingual dictionary.
Because I really want to be... I can say that now
it’s not important for my level of Russian.
it’s not important for my level of Russian.
I can use either Russian-Russian or Russian-English.
It doesn't matter.
But about the explanation of grammar, because reading it in Russian
is also good for understanding.
For me, learning a language is (...). Quantity (...). This is
the time, the amount of listening, reading.
If I have to read it in English, it's a minus
time.
The time (...) is now.
But if I don’t have this level, it’s better to read
in English-Russian.
That is, it turns out that, well, everything is according to your desire,
yes, but in principle, the sooner you start this, the
more effectively you will use your time?
Yes, it may be difficult at first.
Still, even if I read about grammar in
Russian, it won’t be... maybe five percent.
Most of all I will read and listen to, I don't know, things,
audio books, stories, literature, that kind of content.
I won't use 50 percent of my time
to read... because when you read explanations
about grammar, you won't remember almost all of it.
You'll forget this, right?
All.
It will be very... nothing.
Unfortunately.
I understand, I understand.
If I read and listen, for example, to Boris Akunin, to train
the Russian language, it is interesting.
I can learn a lot of new things.
Grammar is always the same thing that
I can't remember.
Cool.
Super.
Here's my question.
A lot of people on YouTube, and you too, and, well, basically
all people, yes, talk a lot about motivation.
That motivation is number one, yes.
You have to be motivated, motivated, motivated.
A few days ago I was at a business forum,
and I don’t remember whether Arnold Schwarzenegger said it,
or another speaker... in general, there was an idea that
motivation is good, but there must be
discipline.
Because motivation comes and goes.
That is, you cannot always be one hundred percent,
yes, motivated.
Sometimes discipline is needed.
So what do you think about this?
Motivation, discipline.
How's that?
Let's say, if you go to the gym.
So to speak, yes, in Russian?
Yes, great!
You have the motivation to become strong, I don't know... you
have the motivation.
Discipline is the outcome of motivation.
Yeah.
If you don't have motivation, you won't have discipline.
OK then.
And the question is this: here is the army, yes, for example, the army.
There is discipline in the army.
But I think that in the army people have no motivation.
It’s unlikely that anyone has the motivation “I want to kill, kill.”
Well, of course, but the army is not like, say,
learning languages.
Slightly different things, right?
These are the things that keep me busy.
I want to do this.
The army - if you are a professional, it is to get money.
Every man should join the army.
This is when... it's called a regular army.
You don't have a choice.
Go do what they say, they say.
I don't think it can be compared.
I prefer to use attitude as motivation.
This includes motivation, (...), you like this language,
the way of learning, you are sure that it is good.
There are many elements that...are included in the term "attitude."
Motivation is one.
Well, of course, motivation is very important, but you need to create
new habits.
Ah, new habits, right?
New habits.
Well today I don't want to study.
So, what to do, what to do?
I watched today, I don’t want to...
Therefore, I must do things that...
Which give you motivation, which charge you with energy?
It doesn't necessarily give you motivation, but it's very easy to do.
Not difficult.
Therefore, if today I study verbs of motion,
I will read the explanations a thousand times.
Don't want.
That's it!
But if I take headphones today, I will listen to
anything in Russian, Thai, Arabic, it’s very easy.
There is no confrontation.
It is very easy.
I'll take it, then I'll cook breakfast and then I'll almost
... drive.
I'm driving, I'm listening in the office.
It is not difficult.
For me this is already a habit.
That is, if you choose between, as it were, what you need to do
and between what you like, then it is better to strive
to study most of the time, yes, or master, yes.
Master the language as it were... in a way that you like.
It's better to devote more time to what you like.
Yes.
And there is, for me there is such, let’s say... order, yes.
The easiest thing is to listen.
I'm listening, but maybe I don't understand.
There is often content that I listen to that I don't understand.
Because of this, motivation increases.
Curiosity grows.
I don't understand this!
I didn't understand.
I will read.
And when I read, there are words that I don't understand.
I'll look it up in the dictionary.
Yeah, that is...
Formulas, grammatical, this... what is this for, endings,
cases, blah blah blah?
I will look for.
So for me it starts to listen.
From this curiosity grows.
Yes, curiosity.
Motivation, it moves.
Pushes me to look for others.
I don't have a problem, I don't say every day: "Today I
want to study verbs of motion."
No.
It's clear.
That is, it turns out that everything comes from the content,
from the context.
In general, I don’t really like the word content, it’s a little bit
like... content, content.
But, okay.
That is, everything comes as if from the content that
you listen to or watch.
If you like it, then you just have
this curiosity: “Oh, what did he say, let me see!”
And you look at the verb of motion there, yes.
And you look at the verb of motion there, yes.
Or what did he say?
You look at some kind of grammar help.
That is, you kind of... you're interested and it kind
of provokes you, yes, to snatch some information.
Do I get it right?
Yes.
And of course, there is... when we start, we cannot...
they always say that we must use (...). This is not possible
when we start.
Therefore, for the first three months, for example, in my case,
I use ours (...). Lots of repetition.
Then I want to start with interesting content.
And this is of course very difficult in the case of the Persian language,
the Arabic language.
When I try to listen to, for example, a podcast from (...) it's
a little... too difficult.
We need to look for something in between.
The European language is, for example, in the case of the Ukrainian
language, after a very short time I could start
listening to audiobooks, Ukrainian stories.
Because it's the same in the case of, I don't know... or
Romanian, it's very similar to Italian vocabulary
.
Therefore, not every language... when you already know, say,
five thousand words, you can start listening to interesting
things.
For example, in the case of Chinese.
That's right!
I just have a question about the Chinese language, because
I lived in China for two years, and... but I just
couldn’t master this language.
And now I’m trying, I’m sitting, I’m listening, I
have flash cards there, 123, so I bought a book, I’m reading
stories.
But it’s difficult, it’s really difficult.
You listen and it’s very difficult even for the most basic
things.
This is exactly how my Chinese path goes.
You need to listen a lot.
You know, I have statistics.
Of course, I never learned Chinese in Ling,
but I read Russian.
Two million words.
These are our statistics.
This is not to mention the books that I have in Russian.
And I heard I don’t know how many, maybe a thousand.
You know, there was a time, I listened to audiobooks: Dostoevsky,
Kuprin, Ostrovsky, Turgenev “Fathers and Sons.”
I listened a lot.
And then there was a time, you know, there is such a radio station:
"Echo of Moscow".
Which, I know, is not very... many Russians do not like.
But there are ten interviews there every day.
And the text.
Every day.
And I can for one year every day... I
had...
Everything is there.
There are people whom I don't like at all.
There is, maybe I like the voice or
I like the content.
And I download the sound every day, five interviews and I
hear it.
And then in the evening I will read.
There were a few parts that I didn't
understand very well.
But every day!
Every day there are five interviews.
It is very interesting.
I learned about the situation in Russia.
This doesn’t matter to me, I don’t live in Russia.
But there is a lot of controversy, blah blah blah.
That is, a real language, yes, it turns out?
Just input directly.
And always text.
Audio with text.
Audio and text.
This... this is Heaven!
This is the best source for studying.
If there were Echoes of Moscow in every language, I did not say
this is not a matter of politics.
I can hear Zyuganov, I can listen to Zhirinovsky,
whatever.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Fine.
It's clear.
Say one more thing.
We all know about the advantages of language, the advantages of gadgets.
Gadgets, technologies, mobile phones,
computers.
Of course, there are a lot of advantages.
Do you see any disadvantages in using
gadgets?
Not in the use of gadgets, or rather, but in how it affects
... well, not on people's lives, but in particular on
language learning.
Here's one example, yes.
I often notice that a mobile phone, yes, the Internet, a computer
distract you a lot.
That is, it is very difficult for people to focus and let’s say
, sit down and, yes, study the language for 30 minutes.
That is, you already want to sit for five minutes and
you already: “Oh, what’s there?
Or maybe this, or maybe this, maybe
this?”
That is, such defocusing is taking place.
Are there any downsides?
Eat.
Of course have.
Yes, but it's a matter of discipline.
Yeah.
That is, you need...
Still, I don’t have my iPhone, but there are in... I don’t
know, 20 languages.
More audio content with text.
And to look for opportunities, I don’t know, French, Spanish.
Everything is!
20 years ago there were laboratories at universities, I know
how to say this in Russian.
But my iPhone is much stronger.
Library, right?
Yes Yes Yes.
This... but of course, when I read Persian, I
listen and read.
And sometimes it’s very useful... oh, one more.
Nowadays people study, for example, Chinese characters and hieroglyphs
via the Internet.
Did I write
all this
? Write.
I think it was good.
I wrote a lot.
I wrote by hand.
And this is a bit of a minus.
But I don’t think that if you compare... after all, now is the best
time to study.
For learning a language, right?
But discipline is needed.
Me too, I read in Ling, on an iPad.
The iPad is very easy to attract other things.
Oh, get distracted, right?
For other things.
There was a war and blah blah blah.
Yes Yes.
Well, the only negative.
There is a minus, but... there are more pluses, right?
There are more advantages.
Fine.
But tell me there is such a thing now, too, now a minus with a lot
of different content.
No, of course, there are problems with the content, yes, that it’s
difficult for you to find content that matches
your level.
Yes, it would be a little higher.
Very difficult.
But in general there is... if you want to learn
English, yes, there are 20,000 YouTube channels, there are 50,000
podcasts.
That is, people often become not
language learners, but collectors.
They collect podcasts, YouTube channels and so on.
But... here's what you can advise: it's still better
is it okay to take something specific and study it, or is
it a little here, a little there, a little here,
a little there? Of course,
this is a problem in the case of the English language. This
does not exist in the case of Persian, Arabic,
Turkish. I
would hope this problem existed for me.
But
you need to look for sources that are interesting to you.
Maybe
a podcast, I don’t know, marketing. Digital
marketing. Could
be about history, could be about the blues, whatever.
That
is, not for learning the language, yes, rather, but for the topic
that you need? Topic.
Topic question.
Because
the content for beginners is only for the case of English
the content for beginners is only for the case of English
. This is
where everything is in the Latin alphabet. And
even for people who, in principle, read Kerin,
the Latin alphabet is not difficult. It's
not like Arabic or Chinese. 3 months or 5 months,
that's it.
This is enough.
Then you need to look for something interesting.
And it depends on... and it needs to be there, for example, I will... I'm
looking for a podcast and not 10, but 1, 2.
And every day I try... do you listen to it?
Because this, if you love the voice and you love the content,
this is the best.
If you're not very happy, you have to keep looking.
Fine.
The question is whether you have something good.
Yeah.
Here's how to make the most of these three months.
You say, well then, plus or minus 3 months.
How to carry them out as efficiently as possible?
To be able to understand the content faster?
Interesting.
For me this is the so-called Point of view.
After I started using mini-stories
in Greek, Romanian, Ukrainian, Persian,
Arabic, I learn faster.
As it were.
Point of view is... a lot of repetition.
The same content, but the points of view change.
I do something, or she does something.
Everything changes.
And I’m very...did we translate this matter in English
into different languages?
translated into 30+ languages. but I would really like to
listen to Slavic, from Slavic languages.
Languages.
It will be the same.
Because the problem is that every language is different, different.
And what we do for the English language, of course, it works.
But it will be better if, for example, there is one story
in a perfect form and another in an imperfect form, and
we drove, we drove, blah blah blah.
That is, variations.
Yes Yes.
I think when we start out, our motivation is - at least
in my case - I really don't believe it. I want to know
what this language has.
This is interesting for me.
So the content isn't very interesting, but that's all.
I didn't know anything.
It's a sound, and then now I understand something.
I'm very, it's motivating.
And then a new stage begins, where I have the feeling
that I am... no progress.
Oh, yes, this is the so-called plateau?
Therefore, I will always say, I have always said that this is...
how to say this?
Stick?
Reverse stick?
You start very rarely and there is progress, you feel
progress.
Three months and I understand, I can say something.
And then...
Oh, well, that is, this is how it goes?
Yes exactly.
Because.
Uh, hockey stick?
This is a stick, a hockey stick.
Hockey stick.
That's right, this is Canada.
On the contrary, down?
Purity?
Purity!
You know, it's falling a lot.
The first 50 words appear very often.
It's very easy to learn.
Because this is very, very common.
Often.
But then they fall very quickly and...
it’s better to switch to Chinese.
Needs.
Even particulars are very low, particulars of words are very much needed.
Therefore, it falls quickly, which means that in order to learn
new words, it will become difficult.
Yeah, that is, you need to repeat and repeat and
repeat more often.
But I can repeat, when I start, there will be ours
ministories is a very important point to focus
on this vocabulary.
But then it will become difficult.
You have a feeling that there is no progress.
Therefore, it is very important to keep the content interesting
during this time
. Clear.
That is, when you have reached this point, this plateau,
then you just need to be very interested,
yes, and then you will have motivation, then you will
still go, go, and then - hop!
And you are already here somewhere, yes.
Exactly, exactly.
Okay, Steve.
I literally have one last question for you.
You’ve been to Russia, tell me?
Yes.
I was in Russia 7 years ago.
I was in St. Petersburg.
And Moscow.
And so... that was the time when I was very focused
on the Russian language.
I really wanted to visit Russia.
Please tell me, here’s one thing you liked
and one thing you didn’t like about Russia,
can you tell me?
Such polar opinions are always interesting.
Well, I liked it a lot.
I liked a lot of things.
Firstly.
Visit a country where they speak the language you
are studying.
It is a paradise.
Because I live in Canada, I read, I listen, and when:
wow!
do they speak Russian?
And you had this: what, in what language?
I dont understand what?
No?
No no no.
It was for me: wow!
I really liked it.
Well, yes, you listened to “Echo of Moscow”.
After "Echo of Moscow", after such practice
there will be no problems.
Yes, "Echo of Moscow" and Turgenev.
And because people, usually people, speak Russian.
Wow!
And I was in St. Petersburg, of course, it was the month of June.
White Nights?
11 o'clock, 12 o'clock, you can take a walk, you can ride
on the boats
. But very useful, very good.
By the way, are there white nights in Canada?
Well, of course.
If you, you know, in St. Petersburg it's very far from the north, yes.
It depends... when I worked or was a member
at a (sawmill) in northern Canada, it's the same
thing there .
White nights too?
What didn't you like?
Well, I liked it, for example.
I traveled on a high speed train.
Very good.
Very good.
And... no, of course, in St. Petersburg or Moscow, when you are in the center,
it is very beautiful.
When you walk a little further, a little less.
Let's say, the level of the building, the level...
well, in general, the state in which the buildings are.
Yes, very good.
But that’s all, I always have this feeling both in Croatia
and the Czech Republic.
People in the service sector.
Yes, the service sector.
They don't really like their job.
What do you want?
Well, what?
What you want?
Almost yes.
Why, don’t you speak Russian?
Do not you speak Russian?
Why did you come, you don’t speak Russian, go away.
This is common.
This is how it is.
Need to get used to it.
And this is very interesting.
Because, for example, I bought a train ticket and, in principle,
I understand.
But if you don't have experience, there was a line, and then
I... in front of me, grandma.
But you need to buy a ticket.
Please can you repeat it please.
Then I realized that if I do this a second time,
everything will be fine.
You need experience, right?
In every situation you need to have experience.
If you have a language, we always, if we can more or less...
it’s not always very... on the contrary, people on the street or in the subway
are very fond of... I’ll explain to you, I’m going with you.
That is, responsive people?
Responsive.
Responsive - well, when they respond.
That is, when you ask, they answer you and help you.
Yes.
There are two worlds - the service sector and ordinary people.
Clear.
Okay, okay, Steve, thank you very much.
Here, I want to once again express my gratitude to you,
here is a low bow for all your work, for your channel.
If anyone hasn't been to Steve's channel yet, be sure to...
well, I'm sure everyone knows about him.
But if someone doesn’t know, then be sure to go here
, here’s the link in the description, go to the link too, because
this is a cool platform.
I also posted a little bit of content there, but I will
definitely post more.
Here.
So Steve, if you have a desire to practice
Russian, you know where to turn.
Yes.
And I think that only on YouTube it is very good.
I've seen a few videos and you speak very slowly.
And there are subtitles.
Subtitles, yes, subtitles.
If I start reading and learning Russian now
, I will definitely watch all your videos.
Thanks Steve!
You can also listen to my podcast.
OK!
I haven't heard the podcast.
But a podcast is better for me, because you don’t have to
sit in front of a screen, in front of a computer.
I can... this will be a new “echo of Moscow”.
All!
Now I have a goal.
I should turn my podcast into a podcast as cool
as “Echo of Moscow”.
Do you have a transcript, as I saw?
Yes, sure.
Your podcasts are awesome.
Very very good.
OK.
Thanks Steve!
That's it, thank you and see you soon!
See you.
That's it, bye-bye!
Bye.
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