0:0:0.0 --> 0:0:2.510
Keith Low
There is so this is something new which I need to update you guys.

0:0:3.260 --> 0:0:9.850
Keith Low
Uh, after quite a number of wrong of discussion, we've uh Chris and also
Stephanie and Josh.

0:0:10.120 --> 0:0:14.380
Keith Low
So the requirement for out licensing has a little bit of.

0:0:16.20 --> 0:0:18.750
Keith Low
Our colleague update, I'll put it that way.

0:0:18.880 --> 0:0:27.930
Keith Low
So basically what we need to do right now is there is a we need to track
exploration the expiry date and there will be a great period.

0:0:28.680 --> 0:0:35.270
Keith Low
So before the expiration period, uh, we will send out notification.

0:0:35.780 --> 0:0:38.610
Keith Low
So the the duration that one can be determined later.

0:0:38.620 --> 0:0:41.30
Keith Low
For example, let's say we say 2 weeks or a month.

0:0:41.560 --> 0:0:42.950
Keith Low
We send out notification.

0:0:43.200 --> 0:0:44.980
Keith Low
After that, we call it great.

0:0:44.990 --> 0:0:45.290
Keith Low
Period.

0:0:45.300 --> 0:0:47.80
Keith Low
That will be default to 30 days.

0:0:47.580 --> 0:0:53.770
Keith Low
We also keep on sending notification, so I think one of the main.

0:0:54.870 --> 0:0:57.80
Duraid Wadie
OK, so I think I understand this stuff.

0:0:57.260 --> 0:0:59.150
Keith Low
Umm OK.

0:0:58.870 --> 0:1:1.580
Duraid Wadie
A whole set this expiration date.

0:1:3.970 --> 0:1:10.960
Keith Low
The OK what at least based on licensing now the the due date is fixed.

0:1:11.190 --> 0:1:18.830
Keith Low
The only got one fixed due date, so let's say they buy 10 license now, six
months down the road, they added five.

0:1:19.80 --> 0:1:21.840
Keith Low
That would be pro rated and will have the same expiration date.

0:1:23.70 --> 0:1:25.450
Keith Low
So at least that that actually simplifies things.

0:1:25.460 --> 0:1:29.200
Keith Low
So the expiration date will come from the day when they buy the the license.

0:1:29.690 --> 0:1:35.610
Keith Low
If they buy it for one year, so if if they buy it for today, the expiration
date will be yesterday.

0:1:36.690 --> 0:1:38.120
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand that.

0:1:38.470 --> 0:1:41.220
Duraid Wadie
So is the expiration date.

0:1:43.180 --> 0:1:46.660
Duraid Wadie
I mean, who who put this requirement, if you don't mind asking?

0:1:49.970 --> 0:1:50.540
Duraid Wadie
It's that hasn't.

0:1:49.600 --> 0:1:51.150
Keith Low
It comes from the discussion.

0:1:51.220 --> 0:1:52.870
Keith Low
It actually is a requirement from ARM.

0:1:54.420 --> 0:1:59.300
Duraid Wadie
Is it a product manager requirement or is actually the commercial team
requirement?

0:2:2.580 --> 0:2:7.220
Keith Low
Uh, you comes from, well, I'll call your product because as Stephanie and Josh.

0:2:9.330 --> 0:2:21.770
Duraid Wadie
Well, right, so this expiration date, right, we can set it at the tenant level
again because this is a product specific expiration date license.

0:2:22.310 --> 0:2:22.570
Keith Low
Umm.

0:2:22.550 --> 0:2:29.840
Duraid Wadie
So that has to go of the of the same way we're gonna define the licensing.

0:2:29.850 --> 0:2:31.480
Duraid Wadie
It has to have an expiration date.

0:2:31.490 --> 0:2:32.750
Duraid Wadie
It's one expiration date.

0:2:34.50 --> 0:2:37.710
Duraid Wadie
All of that specific product, but that's from design point of view.

0:2:38.670 --> 0:2:43.140
Duraid Wadie
The check would needs to happen somewhere which is not in the Ark.

0:2:43.190 --> 0:2:47.920
Duraid Wadie
Unfortunately, that check needs to happen because we we managed the license
itself.

0:2:51.130 --> 0:2:58.820
Keith Low
Hmm, yes, I think initially I was suggesting they are the one who tracked it,
but then I think Chris disagreed with it.

0:2:58.830 --> 0:3:2.400
Keith Low
The reason being is that he wants the licensing to be complete.

0:3:3.50 --> 0:3:9.320
Keith Low
I mean, if there is a licensing service which doesn't track if you it's not
complete and that that shouldn't be the way.

0:3:9.780 --> 0:3:28.940
Duraid Wadie
If we start the data, we check the data for for our specific expiration date
develops with you, so it's doesn't mean we have to check the expiration date of
that specific product and we have to send a notification to ARC all the
distances that are them.

0:3:29.490 --> 0:3:35.70
Duraid Wadie
Your license is due to expire maybe 30 days before expiration date or whatever
that day's.

0:3:35.80 --> 0:3:35.710
Duraid Wadie
They decide.

0:3:34.520 --> 0:3:36.680
Keith Low
Yeah. Yep.

0:3:37.60 --> 0:3:42.300
Duraid Wadie
However, this is very complicated because what happens when they come?

0:3:42.310 --> 0:3:47.30
Duraid Wadie
Now they wanna change that expression date, which is probably they do it on a
yearly basis.

0:3:47.40 --> 0:3:58.130
Duraid Wadie
So once they renew the contract, they will have to put a new date in all of
this stuff needs to have screens that people will use them.

0:3:59.700 --> 0:4:0.470
Duraid Wadie
No APIs.

0:4:0.480 --> 0:4:2.880
Duraid Wadie
So, so whatever we do with this has to have screens.

0:4:3.690 --> 0:4:3.990
Keith Low
Umm.

0:4:7.60 --> 0:4:11.230
Keith Low
But how does this affect the architecture design at at this point in time?

0:4:11.240 --> 0:4:14.660
Keith Low
Because, uh, I believe this is quite a big, big change from what we have now.

0:4:16.240 --> 0:4:16.600
Duraid Wadie
Uh.

0:4:16.800 --> 0:4:47.280
Duraid Wadie
From the design point of view, it doesn't affect that much because what we
really do in here we just add in a new date into, you know, into the licensing
structure, which is the expiration date, I would say, uh, you would have some
type of what we call it like a background thread that I skip running to check
the dates for every single uh product was able to product will have if there is
available it be an expiration date.

0:4:47.290 --> 0:4:49.130
Duraid Wadie
If the date is not being supplied.

0:4:51.280 --> 0:4:56.290
Duraid Wadie
That's mean there is no expiration date, so that there is there needs to be a
background thread in the system itself.

0:4:56.300 --> 0:5:4.730
Duraid Wadie
Keep checking all of those licenses going on and just so notification I don't
mix already changes anything.

0:5:5.100 --> 0:5:10.430
Duraid Wadie
They're Venezuela is just more dev work here than actually architecture work at
all.

0:5:10.840 --> 0:5:14.550
Duraid Wadie
That just the notification that's actually gonna get sent out.

0:5:14.560 --> 0:5:16.490
Duraid Wadie
It just needs to be agreed with the other people.

0:5:18.500 --> 0:5:18.680
Keith Low
Yeah.

0:5:16.500 --> 0:5:21.440
Duraid Wadie
This is what's going to be sending out and they need to pick it up and actually
do whatever they need to do.

0:5:21.450 --> 0:5:36.90
Duraid Wadie
However, if we have another products integrating with the licensing service,
let's say what cried coming in and we're going to control the licensing, we
need to understand how we gonna notify these people.

0:5:38.610 --> 0:5:39.210
Keith Low
Umm yeah.

0:5:38.840 --> 0:5:39.530
Duraid Wadie
If that makes sense.

0:5:39.540 --> 0:5:45.500
Duraid Wadie
So if they're gonna follow the same thing, and actually because those are, say,
what, cry for example, it's not in AWS.

0:5:45.540 --> 0:5:56.570
Duraid Wadie
So we have to send the messaging and they have to subscribe to it outside
outside our A think there is a a meeting set up to go through that.

0:6:0.590 --> 0:6:1.60
Keith Low
Uh, sorry.

0:6:1.70 --> 0:6:1.610
Keith Low
A meeting to.

0:6:0.930 --> 0:6:4.590
Duraid Wadie
Which is yeah, cross cloud eventing.

0:6:5.400 --> 0:6:9.10
Duraid Wadie
There is a meeting, I think it's set up to actually go through that.

0:6:9.600 --> 0:6:12.10
Duraid Wadie
Not sure if action yeah.

0:6:9.690 --> 0:6:13.660
Keith Low
OK, there the that that is the 8 WS meeting that you're referring.

0:6:14.780 --> 0:6:15.560
Duraid Wadie
That's right.

0:6:15.570 --> 0:6:18.550
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, I actually am really troubled.

0:6:18.560 --> 0:6:21.820
Duraid Wadie
Clashed with this meeting with other meetings.

0:6:26.890 --> 0:6:27.100
Keith Low
Uh.

0:6:23.850 --> 0:6:29.270
Duraid Wadie
I think I need to explain the Bing, Bing what she needs to actually explain to
Eric what they need to do.

0:6:32.680 --> 0:6:34.610
Duraid Wadie
Is that possible to be changed at times?

0:6:34.620 --> 0:6:36.50
Duraid Wadie
If you don't mind, I don't know.

0:6:35.980 --> 0:6:43.190
Lim Zhao Siang
Yeah, Duraid just about the suggest that to you, I think let me try to move it
the next day.

0:6:43.200 --> 0:6:44.40
Lim Zhao Siang
Maybe hold on.

0:6:45.700 --> 0:6:47.730
Duraid Wadie
Next day, next day.

0:6:47.780 --> 0:6:48.870
Duraid Wadie
Ohh dear me.

0:6:49.110 --> 0:6:50.510
Lim Zhao Siang
This same time works for you.

0:6:52.310 --> 0:6:56.140
Duraid Wadie
Uh, I'm triple booked in all of those meeting times.

0:6:56.690 --> 0:6:58.240
Duraid Wadie
No double trouble, folks.

0:6:59.660 --> 0:6:59.900
Keith Low
Umm.

0:7:0.50 --> 0:7:1.460
Lim Zhao Siang
Alright so.

0:7:1.340 --> 0:7:3.10
Duraid Wadie
Better state that is day will be fine.

0:7:4.10 --> 0:7:4.660
Lim Zhao Siang
Thursday.

0:7:4.800 --> 0:7:5.320
Lim Zhao Siang
OK.

0:7:5.190 --> 0:7:5.880
Duraid Wadie
Yeah.

0:7:5.380 --> 0:7:7.80
Lim Zhao Siang
OK, let me try Thursday then.

0:7:7.850 --> 0:7:8.510
Lim Zhao Siang
Alright, Thursday.

0:7:5.950 --> 0:7:10.260
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, because I've blocked my diary, actually, on Thursday.

0:7:10.270 --> 0:7:12.230
Duraid Wadie
So nobody can pop meetings by completing.

0:7:13.260 --> 0:7:13.880
Lim Zhao Siang
Sure. Sure.

0:7:13.890 --> 0:7:19.890
Lim Zhao Siang
Let me let me engage Eric first, then I will try to move that to Thursday, OK.

0:7:20.50 --> 0:7:21.250
Duraid Wadie
If he can't, yeah.

0:7:20.320 --> 0:7:24.820
Lim Zhao Siang
Or maybe let me let me just move it right now, then I'll send here email so
that I can book your time first.

0:7:24.820 --> 0:7:25.70
Lim Zhao Siang
Right.

0:7:25.80 --> 0:7:25.990
Lim Zhao Siang
So yeah.

0:7:26.0 --> 0:7:26.130
Lim Zhao Siang
Yeah.

0:7:26.140 --> 0:7:27.400
Lim Zhao Siang
Let me let me let me do that, yeah.

0:7:28.340 --> 0:7:29.740
Keith Low
AI during uh.

0:7:29.750 --> 0:7:30.600
Keith Low
There there are a bit more.

0:7:30.610 --> 0:7:31.350
Keith Low
Let me finish.

0:7:31.360 --> 0:7:33.10
Keith Low
Uh, what?

0:7:33.110 --> 0:7:33.900
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, sure, sure.

0:7:33.20 --> 0:7:36.930
Keith Low
I was going to say yeah, so there will be an expiration date.

0:7:36.980 --> 0:7:40.250
Keith Low
There will be a great period we need to track this and send out notification.

0:7:40.480 --> 0:7:47.730
Keith Low
So in the event when the license is reduced for whatever reason, they bought 10
and when they renew next year they reduce to five.

0:7:47.820 --> 0:7:53.70
Keith Low
So I think the issue that we face is that we don't know who to deprovision
because that would be a product issue.

0:7:53.80 --> 0:7:53.830
Keith Low
We don't know who.

0:7:53.960 --> 0:8:11.460
Keith Low
So in this kind of scenario, we will send out a notification uh to to to both
our internal Ideagen account manager as well as to the tenant admin will keep
on alerting them that there's a discrepancy and prompt them to actually do the
provision.

0:8:11.550 --> 0:8:15.90
Keith Low
That is one thing and the last one would be the license time.

0:8:15.710 --> 0:8:19.760
Keith Low
Uh, I think we have been teasing out for the license type.

0:8:19.770 --> 0:8:24.380
Keith Low
Uh many times, and they have been changing and changing and changing.

0:8:24.490 --> 0:8:30.740
Keith Low
So I think in the end, Chris suggested this, we do dynamic type where they can
actually key in.

0:8:31.10 --> 0:8:33.0
Keith Low
So for example, like they they key in five.

0:8:33.10 --> 0:8:35.500
Keith Low
Now next month they have another two more.

0:8:35.510 --> 0:8:38.140
Keith Low
They key in two more and recaptured all this information.

0:8:38.790 --> 0:8:43.380
Keith Low
So essentially that is a that that is the changes right now.

0:8:45.770 --> 0:8:47.350
Duraid Wadie
What do you mean by a license type?

0:8:47.360 --> 0:8:48.420
Duraid Wadie
Keep changing this.

0:8:48.430 --> 0:8:49.920
Duraid Wadie
This can't be keep changing.

0:8:49.930 --> 0:8:52.320
Duraid Wadie
This is this is has to be set from.

0:8:52.370 --> 0:8:56.60
Duraid Wadie
You know the commercial team to Salesforce that can't be changing that.

0:8:56.70 --> 0:8:59.690
Duraid Wadie
This is how they actually touches the system.

0:9:1.100 --> 0:9:5.730
Keith Low
Uh, no, no, I'm not saying they are changing, but uh, they are adding new
license type now.

0:9:6.340 --> 0:9:6.640
Keith Low
OK.

0:9:6.650 --> 0:9:8.910
Keith Low
And as of now, they are in the stage of planning.

0:9:8.920 --> 0:9:15.270
Keith Low
They can't give me a fix specific answer like when I talk to Josh last week it
was six.

0:9:15.480 --> 0:9:16.430
Keith Low
Jasmine spoke to them.

0:9:16.440 --> 0:9:19.110
Keith Low
I think it was five earlier, there was three.

0:9:19.240 --> 0:9:22.210
Keith Low
So this has not been defined yet.

0:9:22.220 --> 0:9:25.390
Keith Low
OK, I think at this point of time, it's understandable.

0:9:25.400 --> 0:9:33.620
Keith Low
They're still working on it, but like it looks like has a plan to keep on
adding new type of license which they are not aware now.

0:9:34.320 --> 0:9:35.350
Duraid Wadie
OK, OK.

0:9:35.360 --> 0:9:40.670
Duraid Wadie
So technically, the license thought they wanna keep sullen, they wanna keep
changing, right?

0:9:42.80 --> 0:9:43.680
Duraid Wadie
I mean this is quiet.

0:9:41.490 --> 0:9:46.580
Keith Low
Uh, they want to add add for example, right now they have a a professional and
essential for risk and audit.

0:9:46.590 --> 0:9:47.670
Keith Low
So there are four already.

0:9:48.70 --> 0:9:49.170
Keith Low
Then there is a.

0:9:52.230 --> 0:9:53.730
Duraid Wadie
You know the enterprise.

0:9:53.740 --> 0:9:55.40
Duraid Wadie
You are professional, yeah.

0:9:51.740 --> 0:9:55.190
Keith Low
Or let me see there is a enterprise and there will be.

0:9:55.480 --> 0:9:57.370
Keith Low
Yeah, there will be another one called business user.

0:9:58.40 --> 0:10:6.830
Keith Low
So I was told they could be new type of license in future which they they they
are not they they don't know yet.

0:10:8.50 --> 0:10:8.410
Duraid Wadie
OK.

0:10:7.920 --> 0:10:10.710
Keith Low
So due to this, if we had query then it'll be a problem.

0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.540
Keith Low
So they want it to be well, they can edit themselves.

0:10:18.680 --> 0:10:19.140
Duraid Wadie
All, yes.

0:10:19.210 --> 0:10:22.430
Duraid Wadie
So we created, we created dynamic license types.

0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:23.840
Keith Low
Mm-hmm.

0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:28.150
Duraid Wadie
Like in dynamic license stops.

0:10:26.870 --> 0:10:32.530
Keith Low
So I think my understanding from Siang is in provisioning doesn't work that
way.

0:10:32.890 --> 0:10:34.960
Keith Low
I think all these are hard coded at the moment.

0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:36.0
Duraid Wadie
That's right.

0:10:34.970 --> 0:10:36.130
Keith Low
We tell the depth.

0:11:4.100 --> 0:11:4.390
Keith Low
Umm.

0:10:37.280 --> 0:11:5.870
Duraid Wadie
I mean to go to that level of craziness actually having different license types
dynamically created just like the business doesn't know where they want to
Venezuela here, which this is really, I mean it is definitely I mean from
provisioning definitely because for provisioning it doesn't make it different
to anything the Venezuelan because end of the day publishing just need to know
the keys for those license types that that's what provisioning need anyway.

0:11:6.890 --> 0:11:15.470
Duraid Wadie
But they would just mean that as a step before the provisioning, somebody needs
to define the license type that keys and to that product.

0:11:16.580 --> 0:11:16.880
Keith Low
Umm.

0:11:17.220 --> 0:11:18.290
Duraid Wadie
But that's what needs to happen.

0:11:32.380 --> 0:11:32.560
Keith Low
Yeah.

0:11:18.300 --> 0:11:32.870
Duraid Wadie
So we have to have another screen, another administration layer and another
place to actually save those license types, because now that are not fixed that
are actually coming from somewhere else that we don't know what it is, to be
honest with you.

0:11:35.260 --> 0:11:35.790
Keith Low
Yep, correct.

0:11:35.560 --> 0:11:36.50
Duraid Wadie
Uh.

0:11:38.40 --> 0:11:38.910
Duraid Wadie
Where will this be?

0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.560
Duraid Wadie
Stalled will be stored in the licensing service.

0:11:45.500 --> 0:11:46.40
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, this is.

0:11:46.50 --> 0:11:48.690
Duraid Wadie
I mean, this is now it's getting complicated.

0:11:52.910 --> 0:12:4.610
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, this is actually again a bit complicated now because if you would store
this the licensing service, the, the authors of storing all of this is actually
now we needs to be in specific order.

0:12:6.750 --> 0:12:11.850
Duraid Wadie
So we have we have to onboard of the.

0:12:14.850 --> 0:12:16.520
Duraid Wadie
You have to on board the product.

0:12:18.210 --> 0:12:24.490
Duraid Wadie
Then the licensing service knows the product and then start called figure and
it's license types.

0:12:29.950 --> 0:12:32.340
Duraid Wadie
If that makes sense, it's a bit complicated.

0:12:32.350 --> 0:12:51.190
Duraid Wadie
This probably we need another meeting just to explain how that would work for
the Dev and and this type of administration screens that we even actually think
about if it's going to be in this MVP, if this is quite a lot of screens here,
we're gonna start talking about the Venus with you, not just back end stuff.

0:12:51.540 --> 0:12:51.940
Keith Low
Yeah, yeah.

0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.760
Keith Low
I mean, we we umm.

0:12:54.690 --> 0:13:3.670
Duraid Wadie
Because we don't wanna be telling, you know, the people who's doing this
licenses type right, go to this API and call and add wanna remove one and
change one.

0:13:4.830 --> 0:13:6.880
Keith Low
I think probably, yeah.

0:13:6.890 --> 0:13:7.450
Keith Low
Yeah, right.

0:13:7.510 --> 0:13:9.0
Keith Low
Probably they won't be able to do it.

0:13:9.770 --> 0:13:14.720
Keith Low
I mean, I mean API, normally if we go that API route then we need to depend on
cloudops.

0:13:14.980 --> 0:13:16.730
Keith Low
I don't think there is a good good choice.

0:13:18.80 --> 0:13:18.630
Keith Low
Yeah.

0:13:20.250 --> 0:13:26.470
Keith Low
Uh, I think on your suggestion whether whether this could be taken out from
MEP, I think it's still a consideration.

0:13:27.40 --> 0:13:29.700
Keith Low
Uh, what?

0:13:30.250 --> 0:13:37.530
Keith Low
I would like to do is maybe we can actually go through this to to to to
determine how difficult it is.

0:13:38.870 --> 0:13:44.250
Keith Low
If it's not assuming this is a tough thing to do it, then we need to split it
into different phases.

0:13:44.390 --> 0:13:48.240
Keith Low
Then I can I can actually suggest to Stephanie as well as Chris.

0:13:48.290 --> 0:13:51.220
Keith Low
OK, maybe for MVP, we don't have enough time.

0:13:51.330 --> 0:14:2.500
Keith Low
It's actually a tough work to be done then for MVP, we take out this part first
and then of course we need to know how much or how tough it is to do.

0:14:2.750 --> 0:14:3.900
Keith Low
I mean some car estimation.

0:14:5.910 --> 0:14:8.340
Duraid Wadie
So you're right to Venezuela this.

0:14:10.630 --> 0:14:14.740
Duraid Wadie
This is getting bigger to be honest with you and bigger the slice of saying
stuff.

0:14:15.40 --> 0:14:21.180
Duraid Wadie
I mean, I think we need to estimate this, right?

0:14:22.310 --> 0:14:34.260
Duraid Wadie
I mean probably like the the PO's and the the definitely it's really needs to
be in the school with myself to start explaining really what we need to do here
to Venice with Issaquah.

0:14:34.270 --> 0:14:34.810
Duraid Wadie
Lot of what?

0:14:35.730 --> 0:14:36.180
Keith Low
Hmm.

0:14:34.820 --> 0:14:41.110
Duraid Wadie
This the expiration date checking in sending note many seems simple right?

0:14:41.540 --> 0:14:42.570
Duraid Wadie
But it's not really.

0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.830
Keith Low
Yeah, yeah, the.

0:14:42.580 --> 0:14:48.910
Duraid Wadie
It's as simple as we think this because that is a background flooding needs to
be run and keep running.

0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:54.810
Duraid Wadie
Make sure and you know, like things are ticking and probably the design of the
system is not this way.

0:14:54.820 --> 0:14:56.560
Duraid Wadie
They don't need it to do it yet that way.

0:14:56.570 --> 0:14:57.920
Duraid Wadie
Why would they wanna do it, you know?

0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:8.130
Keith Low
Yeah, I think right now the other question is, uh, we have home, we have a
licensing service and we have provisioning service three main things which are
all interlinked in, in, in this thing.

0:15:8.240 --> 0:15:11.980
Keith Low
So OK for myself, actually I'm quite confused.

0:15:11.990 --> 0:15:13.420
Keith Low
I don't know which part is which part.

0:15:14.30 --> 0:15:16.480
Keith Low
I think probably like like I was young or or just been.

0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:20.550
Keith Low
Uh, if we can get get a yeah. Hmm.

0:15:18.10 --> 0:15:27.730
Duraid Wadie
So I mean the licensing and provision and just think about them, the two
services different and the NHL other provisioning just send the formation to
provision.

0:15:32.470 --> 0:15:34.730
Keith Low
Umm. Umm.

0:15:27.740 --> 0:15:36.450
Duraid Wadie
Things licensing is where the all the license information is stored and all the
checks will happen and all the types will happen.

0:15:38.980 --> 0:15:39.230
Keith Low
OK.

0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.630
Duraid Wadie
All about happens and the licensing stayed to Venezuela. You.

0:15:40.690 --> 0:15:44.940
Keith Low
So in other words, the licensing would need quite a detailed UI.

0:15:46.370 --> 0:15:48.920
Keith Low
Uh, because I probably we need a UI to actually do all those.

0:15:49.690 --> 0:15:49.870
Duraid Wadie
All.

0:15:49.250 --> 0:15:50.760
Keith Low
I mean, for example, the person, yeah.

0:15:49.950 --> 0:15:56.120
Duraid Wadie
Well, they says a specific add menu is for a specific roles within the
business.

0:15:56.460 --> 0:15:58.470
Keith Low
Umm, OK, OK.

0:15:56.310 --> 0:16:5.710
Duraid Wadie
To be honest with you, so like the person who's doing with the renewal of the
product cannot just go and actually add the license type.

0:16:5.760 --> 0:16:7.680
Duraid Wadie
This is a commercial team doing this.

0:16:8.210 --> 0:16:9.40
Keith Low
Yes, umm.

0:16:8.600 --> 0:16:13.200
Duraid Wadie
This is why the more dynamic you are to this, the more complexity you are to
this.

0:16:15.510 --> 0:16:15.960
Keith Low
Hmm.

0:16:15.270 --> 0:16:19.30
Duraid Wadie
I mean, I just took out in the delay of the count and the count decide on
license types.

0:16:21.580 --> 0:16:21.890
Keith Low
Umm.

0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:26.950
Jasmine Tang
To read this is a different screens with the license screen, right?

0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:27.680
Jasmine Tang
As far as I understand.

0:16:29.890 --> 0:16:30.160
Jasmine Tang
Umm.

0:16:28.750 --> 0:16:32.260
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, it's it's some, it's not in the platform, Jasmine.

0:16:32.970 --> 0:16:33.250
Jasmine Tang
OK.

0:16:32.270 --> 0:16:34.30
Duraid Wadie
This is way before.

0:16:34.40 --> 0:16:36.60
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, way before the platform.

0:16:36.70 --> 0:16:41.360
Duraid Wadie
This is happens when you can't forget licenses to a product.

0:16:42.230 --> 0:16:45.940
Duraid Wadie
Then you would use the provisioning surface to say this license type.

0:16:50.650 --> 0:16:52.970
Keith Low
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:16:46.10 --> 0:17:2.250
Duraid Wadie
I mean, imagine the headache if there is no UI here even when you do
provisioning now because you don't know which license type to what, because
you're doing it dynamic now before he can, for example, he can figure it out as
and then API call, right?

0:17:2.260 --> 0:17:2.480
Duraid Wadie
What?

0:17:10.250 --> 0:17:10.430
Keith Low
Yeah.

0:17:2.530 --> 0:17:11.550
Duraid Wadie
This is my license types, but now if you don't know what they are I would
suggest everything happens through your eyes because that's mean this stuff
keep changing.

0:17:13.850 --> 0:17:15.710
Keith Low
Yeah, I think that's why we need like you, I for this.

0:17:17.150 --> 0:17:17.480
Lim Zhao Siang
Great.

0:17:17.690 --> 0:17:17.880
Duraid Wadie
Yeah.

0:17:17.490 --> 0:17:22.380
Lim Zhao Siang
So the expiration date right now couldn't be provided by the cloud of state.

0:17:22.470 --> 0:17:22.970
Lim Zhao Siang
Is that correct?

0:17:23.660 --> 0:17:26.770
Duraid Wadie
Ohh, that actually complicates stuff even further, right?

0:17:26.780 --> 0:17:31.570
Duraid Wadie
That's mean, I think, Keith, what needs to happen, right?

0:17:31.580 --> 0:17:34.470
Duraid Wadie
I mean, this is an extremely good point here, right?

0:17:35.40 --> 0:17:42.790
Duraid Wadie
The more and more they added to this, the more complexities outside the remit
of that team, which is pretty cloud operation to look after.

0:17:42.620 --> 0:17:42.800
Keith Low
Yeah.

0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:43.610
Duraid Wadie
Infrastructure.

0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:44.150
Duraid Wadie
Not really.

0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.650
Duraid Wadie
Didn't licensing data to Venice with you?

0:17:48.770 --> 0:17:49.190
Keith Low
OK, I think.

0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:56.900
Duraid Wadie
What I really think they need to decide in the business, who is going to do a
provisioning, who is going to provision to Venezuela.

0:17:58.120 --> 0:17:58.430
Keith Low
I was.

0:18:1.250 --> 0:18:1.440
Duraid Wadie
Yeah.

0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:2.260
Keith Low
So you we cloud OPS at the moment at least until the UI comes on.

0:18:4.520 --> 0:18:8.770
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, but if cloud OPS needs to Hoover data like licensing data, right?

0:18:8.780 --> 0:18:10.690
Duraid Wadie
This cannot be from the cloud OPS.

0:18:10.740 --> 0:18:20.730
Duraid Wadie
I wouldn't have a clue, so the project team I need to tell the cloud operation
what the expiration date of that specific tenant.

0:18:20.740 --> 0:18:22.890
Duraid Wadie
I mean, they think in their head is a tenant, right?

0:18:22.900 --> 0:18:23.770
Duraid Wadie
Because it's it's.

0:18:23.890 --> 0:18:25.120
Keith Low
Umm yeah.

0:18:23.780 --> 0:18:26.100
Duraid Wadie
That's what it is, but really it's a product itself now.

0:18:29.690 --> 0:18:30.660
Duraid Wadie
It's a bigger piece.

0:18:30.670 --> 0:18:31.940
Duraid Wadie
I mean, yeah, yeah, I agree.

0:18:37.230 --> 0:18:37.500
Keith Low
Hmm.

0:18:31.950 --> 0:18:37.900
Duraid Wadie
If there, if there's a cloud operation today, this information needs to be
provided to them by project teams.

0:18:38.30 --> 0:18:40.240
Duraid Wadie
To be honest with you, that's that's why it needs to happen.

0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:43.180
Keith Low
Umm.

0:18:47.0 --> 0:18:58.920
Lim Zhao Siang
And do we need to keep track of the expiration date like for example if someone
renewed that right, do we need the previous record or their expiration date can
be overridden with the latest one?

0:19:1.250 --> 0:19:10.0
Duraid Wadie
Technically you don't need it, but in Ideagen world you would need to know
who's changed it from what to what.

0:19:10.10 --> 0:19:12.540
Duraid Wadie
So you gotta change log that date. Someone.

0:19:11.410 --> 0:19:13.480
Lim Zhao Siang
Tesla got it.

0:19:12.610 --> 0:19:14.590
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, yeah.

0:19:18.660 --> 0:19:22.920
Duraid Wadie
But the problem is right you send them a notification out.

0:19:24.990 --> 0:19:26.600
Duraid Wadie
The problem path?

0:19:26.610 --> 0:19:27.10
Duraid Wadie
Like what?

0:19:27.20 --> 0:19:30.890
Duraid Wadie
The business needs to understand there's not just sending this notification
out.

0:19:31.230 --> 0:19:32.870
Duraid Wadie
What do they wanna do with it?

0:19:32.950 --> 0:19:34.260
Duraid Wadie
Did they want to end?

0:19:35.270 --> 0:19:37.180
Duraid Wadie
You know, did they wanna to interfere?

0:19:37.190 --> 0:19:39.580
Duraid Wadie
The logging in is it after the logging in?

0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.290
Duraid Wadie
Is it that ARC level when the user is logged in?

0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:53.30
Duraid Wadie
Because what they take in this idea is what I've done in our system actually,
before they log in in, we're gonna tell them your license is due to expire.

0:19:53.100 --> 0:19:55.820
Duraid Wadie
That's before logging in, not after logging in.

0:19:57.850 --> 0:20:0.630
Duraid Wadie
That they tell you Keith wanted. We know.

0:19:58.150 --> 0:20:1.640
Keith Low
How will you know if you be following? Uh-huh.

0:20:1.680 --> 0:20:1.910
Duraid Wadie
Yeah.

0:20:1.920 --> 0:20:6.410
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, we know that because our licensing system knows this data.

0:20:6.860 --> 0:20:8.710
Duraid Wadie
So we know the expiration date.

0:20:8.940 --> 0:20:13.710
Duraid Wadie
So like when you inject it now into the licensing service, we already know what
the expiration date.

0:20:14.0 --> 0:20:16.50
Duraid Wadie
So we build it to our auth flow.

0:20:16.370 --> 0:20:21.850
Duraid Wadie
This will complicate stuff heavily further if we do it at that level, you know.

0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.330
Duraid Wadie
Did they tell you what they want to do with it after you get out?

0:20:24.340 --> 0:20:25.270
Duraid Wadie
Notification out.

0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:26.370
Duraid Wadie
When is it gonna happen?

0:20:26.380 --> 0:20:27.210
Duraid Wadie
What is it gonna happen?

0:20:30.70 --> 0:20:34.160
Keith Low
The discussion wasn't so detailed, but then if you, if you're telling me if.

0:20:32.610 --> 0:20:39.610
Duraid Wadie
Ohh yeah, it needs it needs to be very detailed to be honest with you, because
if you're happens at the auth flow that changes the all auth journeys.

0:20:40.660 --> 0:20:43.310
Keith Low
No, but if it's complicated, then I'll choose the easier way.

0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:47.150
Keith Low
I don't want to complicate this, it's already getting more and more
complicated.

0:20:48.420 --> 0:20:50.30
Duraid Wadie
I know, but that's the problem, isn't it?

0:20:50.40 --> 0:20:51.790
Duraid Wadie
That might be not our choice.

0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:54.190
Duraid Wadie
This this is the this is how it happens.

0:20:54.200 --> 0:21:0.930
Duraid Wadie
When I did it in in in my internal audit system, it wasn't my choice where the
decide where does this happen?

0:21:1.500 --> 0:21:5.530
Duraid Wadie
They had to do it at the login, in journey, in my time to Venezuela.

0:21:5.540 --> 0:21:8.250
Duraid Wadie
You, which is if just push back.

0:21:8.260 --> 0:21:12.480
Duraid Wadie
If this happened as much as we can, but that's actually really complicates all
the other journeys everywhere.

0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:17.350
Duraid Wadie
That question is what does are going to do with that notification?

0:21:17.360 --> 0:21:18.870
Duraid Wadie
What is he going to do with it?

0:21:19.360 --> 0:21:23.500
Duraid Wadie
But we need to know this, to be honest with you, from our point of view.

0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:30.920
Duraid Wadie
So we do, we need to know, does it stays at the platform once we send this
notification or actually goes out fully from us.

0:21:31.850 --> 0:21:34.120
Duraid Wadie
And I mean think about it for a second, right?

0:21:34.410 --> 0:21:38.810
Duraid Wadie
Once you have this idea, Gen home number, whatever that version is, they gonna
call it now, right?

0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:43.520
Keith Low
Umm yeah.

0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:45.150
Duraid Wadie
The users already logged in to the platform before even hitting Ideagen Home.

0:21:45.380 --> 0:21:48.30
Duraid Wadie
Sorry before hitting, sorry the arc itself right?

0:21:48.360 --> 0:21:50.210
Duraid Wadie
So it's already logged in into Idea Agent home.

0:21:51.120 --> 0:21:52.240
Duraid Wadie
So not, not today.

0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:53.990
Duraid Wadie
I'm talking about tomorrow, right?

0:21:55.380 --> 0:21:55.520
Keith Low
Yeah.

0:21:54.380 --> 0:22:0.870
Duraid Wadie
Because all of that will apply to the same flow, and they're gonna see, let's
say, ARC click on it.

0:22:1.80 --> 0:22:5.560
Duraid Wadie
We already know that specific product the license is due to expire to
Venezuela.

0:22:7.910 --> 0:22:8.50
Duraid Wadie
Yeah.

0:22:8.90 --> 0:22:8.310
Keith Low
Umm.

0:22:10.350 --> 0:22:22.720
Duraid Wadie
The question is we know this before even they click on it is due to expire, but
that's not happening in the current flow because that's not the way Ideagen
Home is today.

0:22:23.310 --> 0:22:28.900
Duraid Wadie
And for ARC, if we push this further to them right to deal with.

0:22:28.910 --> 0:22:36.960
Duraid Wadie
So once we send the notification with all the art people, this is your
notification and you just the supply it to all your users, right?

0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:37.680
Keith Low
Yeah.

0:22:37.170 --> 0:22:40.770
Duraid Wadie
So every time they logged in, every single person is logged in.

0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.870
Duraid Wadie
So you're gonna see this happening. Where?

0:22:46.550 --> 0:22:54.330
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, that I think it needs to go be more discussed that before we just, I mean
we can do some of the back end and all of that right.

0:22:54.340 --> 0:22:56.180
Duraid Wadie
But actually what happens in the UI?

0:22:56.190 --> 0:22:56.980
Duraid Wadie
We need to understand.

0:23:0.20 --> 0:23:18.760
Keith Low
OK, I think the on on at least on the surface, what we have discussed is it
should be a system notification, meaning that there will be something like like
a pop up that tells every single user including the tenant admin, that your
license is about to expire or your license already expired for example.

0:23:25.110 --> 0:23:25.270
Duraid Wadie
Yeah.

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:29.670
Keith Low
Yeah, for everyone.

0:23:25.300 --> 0:23:30.70
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, but this message is actually is for everyone, if that makes sense.

0:23:30.540 --> 0:23:38.170
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, but usually do we need the question is this is what I'm saying, this is
this is not from product manager.

0:23:38.180 --> 0:23:40.650
Duraid Wadie
This is actually comes from commercial teams.

0:23:40.850 --> 0:23:42.330
Duraid Wadie
This message should be coming.

0:23:42.620 --> 0:23:46.850
Duraid Wadie
Do they wanna nag the user before they log it in after they log in in?

0:23:46.860 --> 0:23:48.810
Duraid Wadie
Do we need to know those questions answered?

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:55.600
Duraid Wadie
Because the system our system is designed actually to nag the user before they
log in and on purpose, they've done this.

0:23:56.90 --> 0:23:56.350
Keith Low
Umm.

0:23:56.40 --> 0:23:58.610
Duraid Wadie
So they actually tell them to go and actually renew.

0:23:58.880 --> 0:23:59.600
Duraid Wadie
They see what I mean.

0:24:0.60 --> 0:24:4.470
Duraid Wadie
So that's that was the origin and that's the actual design was on purpose this
way.

0:24:7.490 --> 0:24:9.840
Keith Low
OK, OK, I can check this paper.

0:24:9.850 --> 0:24:13.480
Keith Low
Stephanie and Josh and bring it up to whoever the commercial manager is.

0:24:14.750 --> 0:24:15.720
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, I think so.

0:24:15.730 --> 0:24:34.290
Duraid Wadie
Tinniswood because what once we understand the UI Germany, we can actually, I
mean the the the back end of the licensing service that's probably all kind of
start and do whatever they want to do and notifications and that I'm just
afraid what does the UI list to look like in this journey to be honest with
you.

0:24:37.300 --> 0:24:37.640
Keith Low
Umm.

0:24:40.120 --> 0:24:41.30
Keith Low
OK, I can check this.

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.230
Keith Low
Uh, that's one thing I I what?

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:52.700
Keith Low
We've Stephanie and Josh, but in the meantime, can we do some some background
estimation or some briefing to the teammate or whatever?

0:24:52.880 --> 0:25:1.930
Keith Low
Because I'm quite concerned on the, I mean the the art has certain expectation
that uh, this will be ready in sometime in July.

0:25:1.940 --> 0:25:6.190
Keith Low
I mean, let's say if you can't come up with this, at least we have certain MVP
to deliver.

0:25:6.620 --> 0:25:10.650
Keith Low
So the way I look at things are now licensing.

0:25:10.660 --> 0:25:12.430
Keith Low
We are still in discussion mode.

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:15.0
Keith Low
We haven't done anything yet, so I'm quite concerned about that.

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:25.170
Keith Low
Hmm.

0:25:20.210 --> 0:25:27.760
Jasmine Tang
We are currently proceeding with the the scope of work that defined in the
conference that previously shared to Duraid.

0:25:28.220 --> 0:25:28.870
Keith Low
Umm.

0:25:28.420 --> 0:25:31.870
Jasmine Tang
So that is the first conversation of the first MVP.

0:25:32.180 --> 0:25:40.860
Jasmine Tang
Yeah, but for the subsequent that currently we are discussing now that that is
not part of it at at this moment, at least at this moment, yeah.

0:25:42.500 --> 0:25:50.720
Keith Low
I think the the biggest question right now is the the the only keeping, keeping
track of the numbers but not on the exploration.

0:25:51.420 --> 0:25:51.900
Keith Low
Uh.

0:25:55.790 --> 0:25:58.860
Keith Low
At least he doesn't seem to be complete, and I think that is the biggest
question.

0:25:58.870 --> 0:26:0.260
Keith Low
It doesn't seem to be complete.

0:26:0.570 --> 0:26:1.770
Keith Low
It's only keeping track.

0:26:2.380 --> 0:26:4.170
Keith Low
Uh, it doesn't.

0:26:4.510 --> 0:26:11.480
Keith Low
Uh, I mean, it helps to assign and unassign user and I I think that that's
that's what we have been doing previously.

0:26:19.140 --> 0:26:22.620
Keith Low
So Duraid just now you mentioned you could be doing a briefing.

0:26:22.630 --> 0:26:28.430
Keith Low
Do you want to do that after I get more information from them or you can
actually say we book a time next week?

0:26:40.40 --> 0:26:40.460
Keith Low
Umm.

0:26:28.490 --> 0:27:1.230
Duraid Wadie
No, let's get the briefing to be honest with you because I, I mean we we can
get some of the back end on, but I I'm afraid I wouldn't understand the UI bit
more because we need to know see how big that scope change is to Venezuela you
and if you want me to be in the skull to explain you know how big these changes
gonna have impact on, I can actually explain it to them because I said like
this is coming from what I've designed while back to Venezuelan and the system
they trying to replicate.

0:27:1.370 --> 0:27:2.680
Duraid Wadie
Anyway, I just want.

0:27:2.450 --> 0:27:2.710
Keith Low
Umm.

0:27:2.690 --> 0:27:7.210
Duraid Wadie
I don't wanna do it the same way, it's just too much change everywhere to do
that.

0:27:9.380 --> 0:27:9.780
Keith Low
Hmm.

0:27:11.70 --> 0:27:11.460
Keith Low
OK.

0:27:11.470 --> 0:27:11.780
Keith Low
OK.

0:27:11.790 --> 0:27:17.40
Keith Low
In that case, then I I will arrange your session with Stephanie and Josh. Uh.

0:27:18.890 --> 0:27:20.600
Keith Low
I'm not sure about your schedule, see.

0:27:21.500 --> 0:27:22.290
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, yeah.

0:27:22.300 --> 0:27:24.690
Duraid Wadie
I mean, uh, when?

0:27:24.700 --> 0:27:26.670
Duraid Wadie
I mean, when does that needs to start?

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:27.180
Duraid Wadie
The question.

0:27:29.40 --> 0:27:34.470
Keith Low
Uh, they have certain expectation the licensing should be ready around July.

0:27:36.730 --> 0:27:38.340
Keith Low
So I think yes.

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.210
Duraid Wadie
This July, the the all of this.

0:27:40.980 --> 0:27:50.360
Keith Low
Uh, I I think whatever we can do the the, I mean that's the reason of whatever
we can do.

0:27:50.370 --> 0:27:52.800
Keith Low
We do and I can check counter proposal to to Chris.

0:27:52.810 --> 0:27:54.60
Keith Low
OK, this is what we can do.

0:27:54.610 --> 0:27:57.330
Keith Low
The certain certain other things that maybe is like phase two or phase three.

0:27:59.550 --> 0:28:3.600
Duraid Wadie
OK, so let's start the expiration date.

0:28:4.120 --> 0:28:8.60
Duraid Wadie
Let's check the expiration date, and let's set the notification.

0:28:8.70 --> 0:28:10.130
Duraid Wadie
That's probably is doable.

0:28:13.820 --> 0:28:14.70
Keith Low
Umm.

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:20.440
Duraid Wadie
I would say if there is steam availability now depends with you with that, but
the question is what has all over your eyes gonna cover then?

0:28:20.780 --> 0:28:23.490
Duraid Wadie
I mean, that's what takes the time as the old way your eyes stuff.

0:28:24.220 --> 0:28:24.350
Keith Low
Yeah.

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:29.860
Keith Low
And let me arrange that.

0:28:29.870 --> 0:28:32.250
Keith Low
That meeting next week I need to catch your time.

0:28:32.260 --> 0:28:33.750
Keith Low
When when would be a good time for you?

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:35.210
Keith Low
Looks like your overbooked next week.

0:28:36.500 --> 0:28:38.90
Duraid Wadie
Uh, next week?

0:28:38.100 --> 0:28:38.810
Duraid Wadie
Next week?

0:28:38.820 --> 0:28:41.140
Duraid Wadie
Is that what the Stephanie or is that just with the team?

0:28:42.380 --> 0:28:43.820
Keith Low
Uh, with Stephanie and Josh.

0:28:46.500 --> 0:28:46.830
Keith Low
And to.

0:28:46.220 --> 0:28:46.920
Duraid Wadie
Stephanie cheese.

0:28:46.930 --> 0:28:47.370
Duraid Wadie
And there you are.

0:28:47.380 --> 0:28:52.230
Duraid Wadie
Asked Josh is in the UK, but we will be good actually to Port Chris DiPierro
that goal too.

0:28:52.670 --> 0:28:52.950
Keith Low
Yes.

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:53.940
Keith Low
Yes, I will include him in.

0:28:55.470 --> 0:28:56.940
Duraid Wadie
We should be fined after noon.

0:28:57.950 --> 0:28:58.840
Keith Low
After it should be fine.

0:28:58.850 --> 0:28:59.160
Keith Low
OK.

0:28:56.950 --> 0:28:59.560
Duraid Wadie
Should be fine, yeah.

0:28:59.170 --> 0:28:59.740
Keith Low
OK, fine.

0:28:59.750 --> 0:29:1.100
Keith Low
Attend then I'll include you in.

0:29:1.270 --> 0:29:6.450
Keith Low
So it'll be like my night time, but afternoon for you and our morning for Chris
and a Stephanie.

0:29:8.130 --> 0:29:8.330
Duraid Wadie
Yeah.

0:29:9.450 --> 0:29:9.780
Keith Low
OK.

0:29:9.790 --> 0:29:10.770
Keith Low
OK, I'll arrange that.

0:29:10.890 --> 0:29:13.820
Keith Low
In the meantime, what about the briefing for the dev team?

0:29:13.910 --> 0:29:16.950
Keith Low
We wait after that or we can go parallel.

0:29:17.570 --> 0:29:19.140
Duraid Wadie
I'm actually coming to KL.

0:29:19.150 --> 0:29:21.410
Duraid Wadie
Maybe we can do it actually face to face.

0:29:22.690 --> 0:29:24.370
Keith Low
Uh, yeah, I think in two weeks time.

0:29:24.380 --> 0:29:25.700
Keith Low
Yeah, I remember.

0:29:25.710 --> 0:29:26.620
Keith Low
I saw your calendar.

0:29:27.380 --> 0:29:28.50
Duraid Wadie
Yeah.

0:29:42.230 --> 0:29:42.440
Keith Low
Umm.

0:29:28.60 --> 0:29:47.950
Duraid Wadie
So if you can, when if the guys can actually book, I mean like I think SueAnn
actually booked some meeting with myself when I'm actually there with you guys,
I think it's fine just to to make it you know face to face this we can go
through it face to face.

0:29:49.270 --> 0:29:49.700
Keith Low
OK.

0:29:49.710 --> 0:29:57.400
Keith Low
OK, OK, I'll take rifa if if she has something else to discuss with you, then
maybe I'll book another time of just during that time.

0:30:0.610 --> 0:30:0.910
Duraid Wadie
Yeah.

0:29:57.410 --> 0:30:0.950
Keith Low
I think that it will be 2 weeks time from now, 15 and 16.

0:30:2.690 --> 0:30:3.920
Duraid Wadie
Yeah.

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:11.190
Keith Low
Yeah, 1516.

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:11.910
Keith Low
OK.

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:13.270
Keith Low
OK, OK.

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:14.340
Keith Low
OK, that will do.

0:30:14.460 --> 0:30:15.610
Keith Low
I think now it's fine for 80.

0:30:16.20 --> 0:30:16.740
Keith Low
So thanks a lot.

0:30:16.330 --> 0:30:18.170
Duraid Wadie
Yet you're probably at all.

0:30:18.180 --> 0:30:18.510
Duraid Wadie
Thank you.

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:19.150
Duraid Wadie
Thank you everyone.

0:30:19.540 --> 0:30:20.370
Keith Low
OK, thanks.

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:20.910
Jasmine Tang
Forward to see you today.

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:21.460
Keith Low
OK.

0:30:21.470 --> 0:30:21.830
Keith Low
Thanks.

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:22.10
Jasmine Tang
See you.

0:30:21.700 --> 0:30:22.130
Lim Zhao Siang
Thank you.

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:22.190
Duraid Wadie
Yeah, Pinky.

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:23.90
Jasmine Tang
Bye bye.

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:23.130
Duraid Wadie
Seems like Jasmine.

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:23.300
Keith Low
Bye bye bye bye.

0:30:23.100 --> 0:30:23.470
Jasmine Tang
Thank you.

0:30:23.140 --> 0:30:23.650
Duraid Wadie
Thank you.

0:30:23.660 --> 0:30:24.190
Duraid Wadie
Thank you.

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:24.570
Jasmine Tang
Bye bye bye bye.

0:30:24.580 --> 0:30:25.30
Duraid Wadie
Thank you.

0:30:25.110 --> 0:30:25.720
Duraid Wadie
Bye bye bye bye.


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