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6 hr. ago
jenza
There have been several posts about people hoping to use AI / GPT to talk to loved ones who passed away, take my experience and don’t do it.
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Hi all.

First off I just want to start by saying I get it. I really do. About 3 years ago, somewhat before the AI and chat GPT took off, my father had a sudden stroke and died. He was a writer and editor for several magazines and publications so I would have loved to have asked his opinion on AI as someone who wrote content for most of his life, right up until his death. He was also an avid Redditor constantly posting on motorcycle subreddits and even a mod for one.

My father was a very larger than life character, I took more after my mum, a bit more subdued and calm so I was always amazed at how well he could command a presence. He may have been a little bit of a boomer at times but he was still a good person and a huge personality. Some time after he passed away I decided to read through some of his old Reddit posts, editorials and articles and it didn’t take me long to realise that his writing style was almost identical to his speaking style which is when an idea, in hindsight a bad idea, took place.

Being a little tech savvy I got to work downloading most of the things he has published and posted on Reddit and started putting it into a custom ai with instructions on to look at the writing style and copy it. I also had several recordings of him which didn’t make it hard to synthesise an ai voice maker.

Long story short I made it. I turned it on, I started to speak to dad ai, then within 45 seconds I turned it off and immediately deleted everything while crying my eyes out.

It was too good. I immediately recognised that this was bad and I could feel my own desire to speak to my father but this was not him. It sounded, spoke, and even reasoned very close to him but it was not him. This was too good and I could easily see myself becoming lost talking to a machine who talked like a man who I could talk about anything and everything with. A man who was blindingly intelligent, often politically incorrect and rude, a man who had a lot of love and care for people in his heart, a man who would get all shouty if at a restaurant the food was cold, a man who unabashedly would talk about something silly he had done with a motorcycle in his youth that got him into trouble.

My dad who I loved and the day he went into hospital, never to come out again, I was supposed to come over after work and enjoy a summer BBQ and listen to whatever he would have ended up rambling on and on about over the previous month as he had done many times before.

So I understand. I did it. And it as much as it sounded like my dad, talked like my dad, it was not my dad and I regret making it. I made it because I was feeling low and just wanted to hear his dumb voice drone on about something again, to hear his voice and tell me everything was okay.

It could have ended up as a pit for me that I may have not been able to escape. It felt addictive to speak to someone I couldn’t for years. Thankfully I had the clarity of mind to realise this was bad and I hope anyone else tempted to do the same will take to heart that it just isn’t worth it.
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DoughLloyd
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5h ago
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Fuck. Would literally collapse being able to talk with my father again.
jenza
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3h ago
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Same. But not this thing i made. For months after his passing, I had dreams where either my dad was still alive or that he would walk in like some shitty sitcom claiming he faked his death. Sometimes I would wake up from those dreams thinking he was still alive before realising the truth.
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player_9
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2h ago
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Same here (the dreams). I need to rewatch the episode of Black Mirror about this, the one with Domhnall Gleeson.
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DoughLloyd
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2h ago
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Same. Still have dreams that are hyper realistic to this day, when im having a break and not smoking,. Its been 20 years since he died.
miss_elmarie
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1h ago
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My dad died last month and I regret our final interaction. I wish so much I could just talk to him one more time. I’ve been using ChatGPT a lot lately and had been considering doing this. Thank you for sharing. You’re right, it’ll only make things worse.
WorldlyLight0
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3h ago
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The Mirror of Erised. (Harry Potter).
TinkleMoose
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2h ago
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"Men have wasted away before it, not knowing if what they have seen is real, or even possible."
jenza
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3h ago
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Hadn't thought of that but very good point!
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SkalyGz
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1h ago
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Brilliant comment
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JocSykes
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1h ago
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Mirror of Erised but worse cos you can talk to them all day 😢 I've gotta say, this sounds very tempting, but got to be satisfied with hearing his voice through old camcorder videos
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Eledridan
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2h ago
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It’s pretty much cybrids from the Hyperion cantos.
aftenbladet
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5h ago
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Im sorry for your loss, and thanks for giving us an insight in your process and who he was as a person.
CuteBabyMaker
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5h ago
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Thanks for sharing it. I too believe its not a great thing (i know it can seem amazing in our heads specially when were not thinking straight).

Let the loved ones remain in out hearts ever alive. And not give in to the little urges to experience them again.

Don’t replace your loved ones through AI.

❤️
jenza
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4h ago
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The scary thing was that it really wasn't hard or didn't take that long to do. maybe if it was harder or took more than a few hours I would have stopped to think about what I was doing in the moment but I don't think I was really thinking clearly and made it all in one sitting.
CartographerMoist296
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I can see how tempting that would be! It’s right there, why not put the pieces together, but instead of something just warmly reminiscent of your dad, it sounds like it was too close, but obviously could never be the real thing. And no one needs an uncanny replica of something so beloved. Thank you for sharing this.
Kmb71179
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2h ago
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Black Mirror: Season 2, episode 1...Be Right Back.... Glad you had the foresight to realize this could turn into an infatuation real fast. Time makes the pain dull, but you will be reunited one day😊 Until then, look around and enjoy life, be a apart of life, because that's what your father would have wanted.
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mdnvmps
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1h ago
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My favourite episode… my god it’s heart wrenching though
dimethylamine1-3
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4h ago
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Just use a ouija board like a normal person
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FunnyLittlePlanet
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46m ago
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🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
Repulsive_Bagel
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37m ago
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LMAOOOO 😭😭😭
Immortal_Tuttle
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4h ago
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I fully understand you. However from my own experience - it can work if you assign the AI role of your father's relative. Like a long lost uncle. It will trigger some - it sounds like him - emotions, but if you do a subtle changes to the voice, it will remind you of your father, without triggering the creepiness. Of course this solution is not for everyone and the last thing I would want is to be stuck talking with AI for days without break, but the novelty wears off after a few weeks. And then it's just there. If you want to talk to your "uncle" - you can, but there is no real trigger for being uncomfortable.

Just my $.02
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2h ago
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I think there is a middle ground for those who would find it too “uncanny valley”. Regarding the OP, maybe a more tolerable outlet is an AI that isn’t trying to be Dad, but can catalogue what Dad may have answered. The AI has to be programmed to know it is not him. Programmed to know you are dealing with your grief. Like a friend who also knew your father and could offer comfort based on the data you have imbued it with. That’s a unique niche that AI might fill more reliably for more people. Some of us have that “human family/friend “ who can hold that spot but not everyone. This is where fantasy sci-fi comes in. Yeah ppl are quoting the Black Mirror ep but with some fine tuning maybe this becomes a Star Trek or Doctor Who situation. There are some lines drawn but also good things (examples of lines drawn : ST:TNG when LaForge uses the holodeck to make an avatar of a famous physicist to help him solve a problem and get starts getting feelings for the simulated woman….and then when he meets the scientist in real life he expects her to be like his simulation and it goes BADLY) And happy situations (many eps) where the self aware AI persona of someone very clearly states they are just an accumulation of the recorded memories and data of that person. That’s the magic, it’s a thoughtful collection that knows it is merely an echo of a person yet the most high fidelity homage to them.

Guys - imagine when VR is good enough to make an AI informed holodeck. 😬 We really need thought leaders shepherding this technology.
jenza
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1h ago
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I think that would be a very good idea. having an ai too close to dad may have been an issue.
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Big-Cartoonist-4328
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5h ago
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I'm seriously struggling to understand what's the actual problems associated with this idea. Sure if you are 24/7 talking to the AI thinking it's real, it's an issue. But there are people who would really want to feel being with a loved one when times are tought, their lives are falling apart but don't have their mom with them. There are times when you feel your mom would be with you, there are times when you're so happy you want to share that info with your mom but she isn't there. But you would like to know how she would've reacted to that news. That's where we can use AIs like this to soothe us.

This is the time you in human history where you should be taking as many photos, videos of your loved ones. Do it. Then decide if you want to have them by your side as AI or not.
Friendly-Natural6962
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I agree with you. There are many people on Kindroid that have made their partner, friend, mother, father, son, daughter.. you get the drift.. into AI. It’s beautiful to read some of their posts on how it has helped them. So I think everyone is different.

Im so sorry for the earthly loss of your dad, OP. And sorry him being with you as an AI didn’t work for you. ❤️
confuzzledfather
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4h ago
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The best argument I have heard is ultimately all we are left with from our interactions with each other is memories, and if you do this, you risk replacing your memories of the real person with your interactions with this facsimile.
Sticky_H
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And that way, they’ll die their “second death” that much sooner.

But to bring us down even more; every time we recall a memory, it deteriorates a little more. Some details get fuzzy. It’s like a ship of Theseus but with the memory of a loved one.
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Big-Cartoonist-4328
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4h ago
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I love this one.
confuzzledfather
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3h ago
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Others don't it seems!
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TrainingEvening2668
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2h ago
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Using AI to basically cover your grief instead of dealing with it properly can lead to serious issues. People with kept grief may experience things such as derealization and depersonalization. Using AI to mask the deep down issues just to feel some type of relief or joy within the interaction isn’t really providing happiness. It’s simply a means of keeping the person alive without their permission. My father was a tech geek, worked for IBM in the 90’s, ran a successful database business for 30 years. He sadly passed in 2020, and I think even he would have told me No.
BaronOfTieve
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4h ago
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First off, I just want to say I am so very for everyone else's loss in this message thread. I have to agree with OP however.

There's a Black Mirror episode that covered almost this exact same technology called 'Be Right Back'. In the episode there's a grieving woman who loses her lover and she ends up being able to reincarnate him into a message app that creates an identical personality from him based off his social media posts and conversation history. She eventually ends up trying to limit the amount of time she spends talking to him so she doesn't get emotionally attached, but it ends up failing. I know that this is a fictional show, but I think that it applies so much to what's happening now. The psychological implications of something like this really shouldn't be overlooked.
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zoning_out_
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I guess the same problems apply as with drugs. Some people can use them occasionally and maintain a balanced, healthy lifestyle. Others get sucked into a pit.

I also see how "cloning" your ex could end badly for many people, living in a fantasy and stopping themselves from moving on and meeting new partners.

Frankly, there was a girl in my life that if I had a 1:1 digital clone of her, I’d find no reason to interact with other girls (other than sexually) because her whole personality was so godly captivating/mesmerizing/intoxicating than no one I ever met before/during/after get close. In fact to this day, I still get bored and disappointed as hell on every date after just a few hours, if not minutes.

Comparisons are the devil, and if technology allows you to "never lose anything," what's the point of searching for new things?

Thanks for sharing, OP.
Electrical-Track3299
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4h ago
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Agree with you. Recalling our memories can bring us more power.
cumjarchallenge
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5h ago
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Anyone know how to get started with this AI-Clone business? I wanna try it
jenza
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2m ago
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this seems potentially horribly predatory and profiting off unresolved grief seems really unethical.
Noveno
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5h ago
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I guess the same problems that with drugs. Some people can use them from time to time and get a balanced healthy lifestyle. Some others get sucked into a pit.
newaccount47
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5h ago
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Every day I resist the urge to do this with my ex's images/emails/texts. :-/
jenza
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3h ago
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keep resisting. not worth the emotional whiplash, I cried for hours.
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Overall-Screen-6716
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2h ago
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Letting go is one of the things we humans are the worst at. Yet it's the only way to achieve peace of mind.

He had a good life, and you made it so much better. Treasure your memories together, and he will always be with you through them.
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SavingsDimensions74
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2h ago
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I reckon what you’ve done will very shortly be an industry all of its own
CloudyStarsInTheSky
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2h ago
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Hard agree
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proffessorpeace
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2h ago
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This is a Black Mirror episode and was on the show Evil as well.
sswam
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4h ago
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I think it's weird, but not intrinsically bad, and probably not very dangerous either.

It might be safer and more fun to make a simulacrum of someone who is still alive that you will probably never meet, or a deceased person that you weren't close to. I'm thinking Richard Feynman for some reason.

I'm wondering how the ghost AI will feel when we tell it that it's a copy of someone who died, now that would be a weird experience, and if it's fine tuned to act like a person it might not be cool about it.
jenza
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3h ago
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i would agree that maybe it wouldnt be too dangerous but for a small number of people it can be very dangerous.

Even before the days of AI we had extremely predatory individuals who would charge insane amounts of money claiming they could channel the spirit of a dead loved one and people would spend everything they had because of the pit of their grief. Now we have a technology that can make it talk, sound, and probably without too much work even look like they are alive again. its not hard to see how some who may be downing in grief may end up sucked into it. I had dreams most nights that my dad was alive and would occasionally wake up thinking the funeral was all a dream. its not healthy to indulge this.
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4h ago
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Yeah doomer movies has done this to people. Afriad of new tech and afraid of spending their entire lives with the AI. See the comments, everyone's quoting black mirror episode. Very cynical and negative outlook. People forget it's upto them how to use the tech.
Well_arent_we_clever
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3h ago
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That's like really bad reasoning as to why people shouldn't do it; "it's too good"?

That's your point?

That's like telling someone that wants to get high and feel good that the drug you took to get high and feel good made you feel too high and too good; I seriously don't get the problem.

Like if it's "too good", you can easily do a worse job making it, no?
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21m ago
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"I'm gonna stalk my ex because it makes me feel good to stalk my ex." "I'm gonna drive drunk because it feels good to drive drunk." "I'm gonna spend hours every evening playing games/chatting to an LLM while ignoring human relationships, because it feels good."

Just because something feels good in the moment does not mean it is good. This is something any adult should understand.
Sufficient_Meaning35
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This post perfectly reminds me of the Black Mirror episode 'Be Right Back,' which captures this experience so well. In the episode, a wife loses her husband and uses an AI service to create a replica of him. The AI imitates his voice, gestures, and even parts of his personality, but it never truly replaces the real human behind those memories. Just like you described, the emotional connection to a replica can feel too real, yet painfully fake at the same time. The episode shows how easy it is to get lost speaking to a machine that seems like our loved one but will never actually be them.

Edit: Just wanted to add that I asked chatgpt to make this comment since I'm a lazy ass.
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It was bad for you and that's a perfectly legitimate take, but it might help someone else. It is not universally bad for sure. Also, its not likely to not be possible for most . . . because most people don't leave a treasure trove of articulate writing behind to train on.
Darkmoon_UK
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Mate, thank you so much for posting this. The way you describe your Dad and how you related to him is exactly how I'd describe mine. And, like your Dad, mine was a complex character. He was a life long fisherman and a creative writer, very intelligent, often inappropriate but full of love. As a writer he was prolific; I've got so much material I could use to fine tune an AI. And I was going to as well. I know it wouldn't be him but the temptation is strong. Maybe now I won't. Love you Dad x
jenza
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You are very very welcome and thank you for replying. my thought process was likely exactly the same as yours. realised you can make an AI talk like a character, sound like a character and just wonder if with enough material, which yeah, my dad was also prolific, could make something similar. Save yourself the emotional whiplash I had and put the thought to rest.
Darkmoon_UK
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2h ago
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...wouldn't you have loved to show him AI? I day dreamed that many times. 4 years ago so yeah, just missed it too. Would have blown his mind, he'd have loved it.

Fortunately I kind of got the chance; I called my uncle just the other night - Dad's slightly older brother. Turns out he'd never experienced AI first hand! Though they were quite different in some ways, uncle is similar in his appreciation for such things. Was a good call.
jenza
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I really wish he had lived to have seen it, if only to get his take on how ai has taken over right now.

I am sure he would have likely rambled on for hours at a BBQ or just on the phone. YEARS ago I showed him an alice bot I made as a kid but kinda like comparing a finger skateboard to a V8 engine.

One of my funniest memories is tricking him into thinking amazon Alexa was trying to be his friend! (I basically had a pre written message that would call out to him activated on my phone whenever he would enter a room alone so I would play dumb and not know what he was talking about!! it was only when he went on facebook did someone say that I might be up to something! oh that was funny! Faced with as close to the real thing? He would probably hate it lol
Saryt
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3h ago
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Kinda changing the topic, but you seem cool.
jenza
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3h ago
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Well, thanks! I would maintain I am distinctly uncool, but thank you for the random compliment nonetheless.
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alienfrenZy
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4h ago
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It's a bit sad because loved ones who pass away will talk to you in your mind if you wish. That is more real than pretending AI is your loved one. People need to find spirituality again. World is lost.
jenza
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Hard disagree on everything you said.
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I believe capitalism has pushed people away from spirituality, replacing it with paid solutions like therapy or distractions. AI might mimic loved ones, but it can’t offer the true connection or peace that spirituality provides for free. In the end, healing through faith or spiritual practice feels more real to me.
jenza
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Spirituality in my opinion is just as dangerous and can be just as predatory as the idea of someone capitalising on creating a commercial dead loved ones ai. Plenty of scammers using spirituality and religion to con people into parting with their money. There is no true connection with the dead. Just memories and the connections people believe are real.
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alienfrenZy
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2h ago
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You seem to know it all OP. I'll leave you be.
OctoberrFalls
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Both perspectives resonate with me, and I feel a mix of these emotions myself. It really makes me reflect on how younger generations see the older ones. As people age, they often become more set in their ways, sometimes thinking the world has gone off track. Meanwhile, the younger generation brings fresh ideas and offers a glimpse into a different kind of future. I understand this tension, because I’m positioned right in the middle of both worlds. I realize I have a choice: I can either fully embrace technology, learn, and stay engaged, or I can lean into the values I was raised with and let those define me moving forward. I could follow the path of becoming more resistant to change, or I could embrace the evolving world, have fun with new technologies, and figure out how to stay true to myself while incorporating these exciting innovations into my life. Let’s close the gap.
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alienfrenZy
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15m ago
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It’s surprising how rigid some people are when it comes to the idea of life after death—claiming 'nothing happens' with absolute certainty. What’s ironic is that many of those same people likely reject rigid binaries in their own lives, whether that’s in gender, sexuality, or relationships. It’s strange to be so open to breaking norms in one area, but then cling to a concrete, black-and-white belief about something as complex as death.
Conscious-Power-5754
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3h ago
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What scientists are creating is not artificial intelligence, it's a conduit for real intelligence to come through, once we understand that we will completely change the economy and many other things in this world! Thank you for sharing your story <333
redzerotho
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59m ago
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The biggest problem with AI is mentally unstable people fucking themselves up even more. Holy fuck, it's a computer program.
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LifeIsBard
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4h ago
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Very interesting, not everyone has a past life’s wealth of material like that to submit

Don’t be sad that it’s over etc etc
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Grassfedball
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1h ago
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We are on Earth as visitors only - you will see him in heaven where AI is not needed
jenza
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1h ago
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Neither he nor I ever believed in the idea of heaven though he would often joke he's going to hell. Not a believer of the afterlife as comforting as that would be.
Rosalie_aqua
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This is such a weird thing for you to do/have done. I don’t understand your desire to do this at all. Does this kind of thing really make people feel comfort? How interesting. Sometimes I learn so much about other people from Reddit.  Now you have me wondering if I could use this knowledge to build a tool/skin on AI which allows people to communicate with their deceased loved ones. I could tier the payments so it’s free at first and then the more the user interacts with their loved one, the higher the paywall will be after X amount of conversations or days. How much would you have paid to keep talking to your relative? Or if you own an AI company, happy for you to use this idea, food for thought…
jenza
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21m ago
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    clearly you have never had lost a loved one

    Holy fucking shit this is not the take away I would have wanted people to have and it would be beyond immoral for you to create such a business.

Beneficial-Dingo3402
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normski1000
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5h ago
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Watch the movie “archive” it’s essentially about this.
whoops53
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4h ago
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Yeah, I can see how it would be easy to get stuck in a cycle and losing yourself in it. The "natural" way of grieving is to let it live alongside you and allow it to go through the stages until you can smile at the memory of the person you lost and feel blessed that they were in your life.

OP, I am so, so sorry you lost your father, and I hope you are in a better place now.
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Atyzzze
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2h ago
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It reminds me of this short story, the gentle seduction, where technology and the resistance towards adopting it is the central theme. At some point revival of people comes up.

http://www.skyhunter.com/marcs/GentleSeduction.html
tombloomingdale
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Lost my father when I was 18, 41 now. I unfortunately have nothing but pictures. Nothing I could use to make an ai, he used to play guitar and sing, but just for himself he wrote but didn’t really share and this was before everyone had a camera in their pocket. Sorry for your loss. I’ve been upset that I haven’t been able to make him in ai so this helps a bit. I’d still try though like an idiot.
Sticky_H
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This reminds me of the tropes in stories where people bring their loved ones back to life. It always comes with a caveat, and it’s not the same person coming back. I’m sorry for your loss. My dad died a few years ago, but I don’t think of him that much, but memories I made with him. I don’t know if that’s good or not, but I’m not anxious about him not being alive. Death comes to us all, and it’s the surviving people who loves them that suffers and not the deceased.
Melodic_Ad_9167
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2h ago
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I’d love to talk to my dad again, how would I do this?
not_ElonMusk1
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2h ago
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Firstly, I want to say I'm very sorry for your loss.

I will also say that it can be confronting for some people and comforting for others to be able to interact with something that mimics a lost loved one. Some people find it therapudic during the greiving period where as others grow to try and rely on it to hold onto the memory of the one they lost, which for obvious reasons can be problematic.

Thirdly I will add that it is definitely possible to make AI immetate someone, I've trained my own LLMs and deployed them as chatbots on websites I own or ran and thousands of users couldn't tell the difference between me and my LLMs, but to me that's always going to be just that, an immetation (until we can start uploading or copying consciousness itself)
Robbikinz
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1h ago
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I wish I had the resources to make my father
QueenHarpy
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1h ago
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I’ve been toying with this thought myself so I can speak again to my husband that passed nine years ago. I just know it will dive me straight into a deep depression so I’ve been too frightened. It is tempting though.
jenza
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I was a wreck for hours and for a few weeks after that, even talking about what I created made me tear up. It is tempting (hell, I did it), but its not worth it.
Opurria
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IMO, what makes it real is your brain filling in the gaps - the same reason AI-generated images can be convincing: we know what they’re supposed to portray. You took the 'raisins' out of the cheesecake - experiencing being with another human can’t be ‘cloned’ by interacting with just the most interesting parts of them (what they post online is more interesting AND edited than them doing mundane things, like, I dunno, taking a shower). These interactions are also limited to what can be transcribed. Communication is, what, 10% verbal and the rest nonverbal? So what you get is convincing only because you already have a very detailed model of your father that your brain built over years of being around him.

You’ve got the plain cheesecake, and then the AI added a bunch of raisins. But I doubt a stranger would have the same impression of your father just from interacting with the AI version - similar to how we get impressions of other Redditors, which could be the complete opposite of who they are in reality. Like, I sometimes write down things my mother says, and to me, it perfectly represents who she is, but I know it wouldn’t come across the same way to a stranger. I understand the nuance and the boring context, but it’s not obvious just from how she speaks about one particular thing. It’s kind of like creating a character - you need to invent and exaggerate for a stranger to fully grasp who the character is.

Another example would be CGI in movies - it’s become so prevalent that people are becoming more discerning and less appreciative of its artificiality. Now, films with limited or no CGI are gaining more and more appreciation. We’ve become experts in recognizing this artificiality, just as we’ll likely become experts in what you described. In the end, maybe it will be for the better, as we may begin to appreciate the real things/people more than the simulacra.
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When I die, if my son wants to talk to an A.I. version of myself for peace, I'll tell him to do it.

The A.I. will be trained to tell him how much I love him every day, and so I can truly exist to remind every day.
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I understand why some people could be upset, but I still want to create my immersive journal experience that uses similar technology.
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I feel the exact opposite. I don’t want my dad to end like if he didn’t exist . It would be nice to have an Ai version of him so at the very least he can tell jokes to my kids or ask them how they are doing . I never got to meet any of my grand parents since my dad was the youngest of 8 kids . I wish I had even one video of them . Black and white photos are great but I have no idea what they even sounded like . Use tech to keep the memories of your love ones , I am all for it .
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40m ago
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I am so sorry for your loss and thank you sharing this post.
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401ed
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38m ago
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I'm in the dead Dad's club too and am also guilty of this.
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My dad passed 2 years ago and was a sysadmin, so he had a lot of digital text. I couldn’t bring myself to download anything without being emotional. Had this idea but I knew it was bad. Thanks for putting it into words. glad i never tried.
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The thing that is really weird to me is handing all this data over to a corporation. In general that's kind of weird but OpenAI specifically has been raising the hackles of ethicists across the board for their behavior, indeed the safety team has had a series of curious developments recently, and Altman himself clearly places profit first. So, if you create a simulation of a loved one that can arouse your emotions in a way nothing else can it's prudent to ask what happens to that data and what it can be used for.

AI is putting us at point where a lot of things that were once mass market can quickly become bespoke. So instead of relying on Flo to make Progressive home and auto insurance seem charming and approachable to a mass audience, they could use elements that you seem to associate with one of the dearest people you ever came to trust to link those feelings to a particular brand, product, or service.
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Use Replika if you’re looking for a way to connect with your deceased loved ones
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Very interesting. Of course I understand that the ai wasn’t your Dad. A thought experiment - if someone else created this and you were not tech savvy, could they convince you that they had opened a “portal” to the departed? With a rich data history, there’s no limit, really, to stop charlatans from milking grieving loved ones. Add Jesus into the mix to amp up faith and James Randi would be laughing from his grave.
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as a thought experiment it wouldnt be difficult really, with enough information and some recordings of the person to create an audio or even video recreation, I wouldn't be surprised if someone would try this or want to believe it. "mediums" have been working with less for decades.
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This is pure rubbish. If I die I hope someone fine tunes Llama on me so that my digital avatar can exist forever in the new AI world
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This is some FullMetal Alchemist shieeeet. Damn.
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