In 2004, he moved to , where he spent the next five seasons, making a total of 97 appearances. During this time, he was also included in the Super Rugby squad for their inaugural season in the competition in 2006. He was also included in the South Africa Sevens squad for the 2004–05 South Africa IRB Sevens World Series, playing in four tournaments, as well as the 2005 Rugby World Cup Sevens.