For slightly under two years the two of them were held in a succession of three . One was a converted barracks at Moudon (VD) in the Francophone west of the country. Another was at Saint-Cergue, at the other end of the same canton. Clearly the Swiss were not in the business of running death camps, and the physical conditions were evidently less dire than those they had encountered at Gurs. In addition, in at least one of the camps and possibly all three of them, Gertrud and Ursula were reunited with their husband/father.