not that and it's because when he says something about that like for instance the joke he made about being ranked by a catholic priest it's so ridiculous and extreme that it's just funny still offensive but the offense is dissipated by the fact that this joke is that outrageous the target of that joke is the catholic church somebody who definitely can't be punched down to by dave chappelle and chappelle himself so there's no way to punch down there but punching down is kind of what happens here when he gets to his trans jokes at a certain point in the closer chappelle explicitly talks about the concept of punching down and out of all the criticism he's gotten this is the one that bothers him the most he rejects the idea that punching down is what he's doing and argues that in order to punch down you have to think lesser of the group you're making a joke about and this is the most dishonest and disingenuous i've seen dave until he gets to the last NUMBER_TOKEN minutes of this show george collin has a great quote about punching down in his criticism of andrew dice clay from like probably the early NUMBER_TOKENs at this point colin is a long-standing star at the time in the comedy world with the core of his humor being aimed up at oppressive global systems conservative systems etc but on the flip side clay had risen to a mega stardom with an act that was almost completely dependent on jokes about minorities women immigrants and gay people i would defend to the death his right to do everything he does the thing that i find unusual and it's you know it's not a criticism so much but his targets are underdogs and comedy traditionally has picked on people in power people who abuse their power uh women and gays and immigrants are kind of to my way of thinking underdogs actually he should do what he wants and uh why does he get away with it do you think then he has never laughed at jokes about well he's appealing i think he's appealing largely i think his core audience are young white males who are threatened by these groups i think a lot of these guys aren't sure their manhood because that's a problem when you're going in through adolescence you know am i really i mean could i be i hope i'm not one of them and the women who assert themselves and are competent are a threat to these men and so are immigrants in terms of jobs and and uh and so that's why we as an audience then will laugh you say we i don't think you mean i don't know but i think you're collectively i think that's what what is at the core of that experience that takes place in these arenas and what clay did work because as carlin said and this is an important point he spoke to the insecurities of a society that was indifferent or fearful of change that was happening at the time a group of people that maybe felt like their place or their level of power was being reduced by the emergence of these new social forces and factors that they didn't agree upon and didn't have any power over i don't see too many fish in philly you know out in l.a
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