moral framework and then you have this new locus to moral framework which is completely removed from it so one of the ways i explain it to people is uh bill maher's a great example clearly a person who was raised on christian moral values even though he's an atheist so he believes in free speech he believes in innocent until proven guilty concepts that are in the bible so in america a lot of our foundational rights inalienable rights granted by god that was the perception of the founding fathers even people who were growing up in the NUMBER_TOKENs NUMBER_TOKENs and becoming prominent might not believe in any of that stuff but they hold those moral frameworks still within them from their their the traditions that they were handed they were given but now you have a new moral framework completely removed from all those values they don't believe in the right of the innocent until proven guilty you know they're they're something completely separate if they even have a moral framework i do want to mention though i disagree with you on the need for a geographical divide that's uh um that's an american perspective on civil war if you look at a lot of other countries spanish civil war is a really good example they didn't have a geographical geographical divide in the same way they had cities versus the rural areas rural nationalists and urban communists so i believe that's what it was i believe the communists were centered around cities it could be wrong but it was it was essentially fascists and communists and if you look at the initial battle maps where the ideology started getting power it was splotchy it was like the left-wing group was here then it was over here and they were not united or connected in any way so we actually that we do have in the united states but in america the civil war here was based on you know we have each individual state siding on a specific you know states rights slavery versus you know more united federalist power which ultimately resulted in states breaking apart and then the interesting thing i think it was uh texas was like we have no choice because we're surrounded by southern states who hold this all these values we we wouldn't be able to be on the side anyway so in that sense i i think there's a there's a you know you're sort of correct yeah i sort of agree with you that's a good point so i guess i would go to my my other my other reason why i don't think there's actually a civil war is that uh nobody wants to leave their air conditioning and their tv for very long like we all we all there's just there's not the there's not the where with all the will for that sort of thing but i i but i still fun i still disagree um you know are you familiar with the fourth turning the strassau generational theory stuff no so they say it's like every NUMBER_TOKEN years there's a conflict we had the american revolution eight years later the civil war eight years later you know world war ii now it's NUMBER_TOKEN years later and you know what are we expecting to see in this fourth turning period there's four separate you know NUMBER_TOKEN-year periods i'm not saying that's definitively true but i certainly think we're headed towards a period
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