i'm marie jackson paranormal investigator from kansas city missouri best known as the ghost girl from casey or the black pendulum is what they call me okay okay i was contacted to come out here to do an investigation with these amazing guys hey have you been to the sally house i've never been to the sally house never do you know the story of the science i do notice there you do okay okay and i know a lot more stories than what is posted actually really wait a minute pendulum special you're getting the black pendulum deeper explanation let's go that sounds awesome i'm just a tag along them just like just a little holder i guess i don't know okay sounds good man sounds good so i hear the story that there is sally the little girl that is allegedly the result of a botched surgery that went wrong that's i think the most common story do you believe in that botched surgery story i honestly can't say that it is or isn't true i've tried to do a little bit of research on the doctor themselves haven't really found too much about it but not to say that it didn't happen true so a medium is someone who can actually connect directly with spirits and those spirits come to mediums and send them messages and signals that are much more intimate not necessarily a summoning type thing me i'm more of a i can see aspirations i can feel energies i can feel the presence of energies outside of the human form so that's the difference i can't like connect like with the medium they don't talk to me so is it similar to being like an impact i'm severely impact catholic yeah what i'm going to bring on our journey around the house is a radiation detector radiation take us back to chernobyl yes let's go i do want to tell you guys that there's more than one spirit here i call them energies i don't necessarily call them spirits because it's kind of just like a cross between religion and all that there's a lot more than just one energy here a lot more yes there's a lot more energy there's a male presence an adult woman presence there's a teenager's presence there's a military presence that i was able to pick up there's a lot are you able to feel if they're like benevolent or yeah yeah i call them energy one is like the less evil ones as you want to call it and then there's energy twos that kind of get a little bit more physical and then there's energy threes when you get scratches on you and then energy fours is the ones that start revealing themselves in the dark shadows and more physical they were in human form at one point some human form some not so human form so if you want to summon something talk to it as if it were in a human form be very careful with what you asked asking to do yeah you could essentially be bringing something to the surface that you can't get rid of i know a lot of people use devices and ouija boards and stuff like that i'm i'm opposed to those things i know a lot of them do it for fun but you can actually
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