these companies and i hated doing it it was awful just selling stuff and tricking them and so i just stopped doing it and then a period of things happened occupy happens i start working in this and i enjoy doing it so i keep doing it when i was traveling around filming breaking news events i don't know sometimes you wouldn't get many views or make much money but it's like i wanted to be there doing something so it's true there are a lot of people who are driven by a desire for ego and that's why you get the new york city establishment media because these are people who are like i'm a worthless human being but if i get hired by the new york times then people will think i'm cool there you go yeah i mean i just i think there's that but there's just also a lot of people like you know for like a lot of people like twitter is too complex and facebook is like about where a lot i mean it's facebook is where a lot of people have arrived and it's hard to see them it's older adding apps using apps it's true although yeah the young people are on tick tock yeah although i even see young people just reducing their social media platforms to instagram yep instagram yeah you know and so i i the idea that we're going to go and make that work more complex for people and that they're going to we're going to get mass uptake of it i'm skeptical you need to simplify it it needs to be as easy to use or easier than whatever's out there right now i i i i disagree um so we want to make it modular without calling out any individual company i can just tell you the the strategy used by social media companies to become big is so obvious and ridiculously easy it's simple what they've done again not naming any individual company but more than one is they'll create an app they'll advertise it to high school kids they will then give those high school kids fake followers quickly and they will give them fake likes and they will give them fake comments and then all of a sudden you have a new app called superweb and some kid shows up to his school and they're like where do i follow you oh dude i'm on superweb and they're like what's that you're not on super web i already got NUMBER_TOKEN NUMBER_TOKEN followers and they go dude john's got NUMBER_TOKEN NUMBER_TOKEN followers and they all want to download it because they all want followers too a bunch of companies have done this some people have admitted to doing things like this i think it was alexis ohanian who said that in the early days of reddit it was him and steve huffman pretending to be different people to make it seem like the site had users wow otherwise no one would want to be there right bigger companies discovered this and started convincing young people they were they were having they had followers and then all of a sudden what happens like you mentioned having that follower account matters to people so if someone's on twitter with NUMBER_TOKEN NUMBER_TOKEN followers and then they download this new superweb app and within two weeks they have NUMBER_TOKEN NUMBER_TOKEN they abandoned twitter switch to super web because that's where their core audience is so they think all of a sudden now they're not producing content other platforms they talk
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