place you know it was a catcher we we i told this video was the catcher apparently yeah so uh you know but it's funny there were other things like you know that had no significance at all like other than like tony used to eat a a bialy every morning that was because i used to eat bialys every morning so i just wrote that so then that became tony i was there was a time when glenn livet was my drink tony used to drink glenlivet that was just my thing i like uh arnold palmer's tony would order an all-apartment you know it's just you know you're right i'll just give him what i do and then it became his there's no other significance other than it's you know i tony might like this too okay right but also you think you know by then you're so deep into this world as a writer as a creator terry that like you're you know even though you're making a choice it's from your life but you know somehow it's right it fits him because you understand the character not nothing becomes arbitrary is what no i think is it right nothing too weird you know from that didn't fit the character you know it turns out you know tony soprano and i and jim and i were almost the same age yeah exactly so i had i in my own life had the same pop culture references he did i had the same i grew up he drove new jersey i grew up in new york we have so many of the same references so it was easy for me to put myself in the mindset of a tony soprano i knew where he was in NUMBER_TOKEN he was exactly where i was you know reference a club or uh you know uh music show music that he absolutely knows you know so it was actually fun so he probably you know that probably certain similarities in in other things too all right michael this podcast is sponsored by our friends at better help online therapy they've been with us from day one uh it's been a great partnership we believe in them very much and we talk about better help a lot on this show and this month we're discussing some of the stigmas around mental health for example some people think you should wait until things are unbearable before you go to therapy but that's just not true therapy is a tool to utilize before things get worse and it can help you avoid those lows many people think therapy is for so-called crazy people but therapy doesn't mean something's wrong with you and we've said this over and over and over it means you recognize that all humans have emotions and we need to learn to control them not avoid them you know this whole thing and it's gotten better don't get me wrong the therapy uh thing is much more acceptable but not as much as it should be i i mean this is a tool you're feeling down trouble with work trouble with your girl for trouble with your family talk to someone i mean that's it talk to someone better help there's no one better to talk to honestly i mean we've been with them now it's a year and a half we know how many people they've helped and
START_SPONSOR_TOKEN too all right michael this podcast is sponsored by our friends at better help online therapy they've been with us from day one uh it's been a great partnership we believe in them very much and we talk about better help a lot on this show and this month we're discussing some of the stigmas around mental health for example some people think you should wait until things are unbearable before you go to therapy but that's just not true therapy is a tool to utilize before things get worse and it can help you avoid those lows many people think therapy is for so-called crazy people but therapy doesn't mean something's wrong with you and we've said this over and over and over it means you recognize that all humans have emotions and we need to learn to control them not avoid them you know this whole thing and it's gotten better don't get me wrong the therapy uh thing is much more acceptable but not as much as it should be i i mean this is a tool you're feeling down trouble with work trouble with your girl for trouble with your family talk to someone i mean that's it talk to someone better help there's no one better to talk to honestly i mean we've been with them now it's a year and a half we know how many people they've helped and END_SPONSOR_TOKEN