has a consciousness um and so you know in a sense it's it's like one of these there's no new idea under the sun so to speak that's you know that's a sort of a version of of the same kinds of ideas but couched in terms that are sort of bizarrely different from the ones that we would use today would you be able to maybe play devil's advocate on the your conception of consciousness that uh like the the two characteristics of it that is constrained and there's a single thread of time is it possible the liveness was onto something that the the basic atom the screw atom of space has a consciousness is is that uh so these are just words right but yeah what is there is there some sense where consciousness is much more fundamental than you're making it seem i don't know i mean that you know i think can you construct a world in which it is much more fundamental i think that okay so the question would be is there a way to think about kind of uh if we sort of parse the universe down at the level of atoms of space or something could we say well so that's really a question of a different point of view a different place in real space we're asking you're asking the question could there be a civilization that exists could there be sort of uh conscious entities that exist at the level of atoms of space and what would that be like and i think that comes back to this question of can we you know what's it like to be a cellular automaton type thing um i mean it's it's you know i'm i'm not yet there i don't know i mean i think that the this is a and i don't even know yet quite how to think about this in the sense that i was considering you know i'm i never write fiction but i i haven't written it since i was like NUMBER_TOKEN years old my my fiction i made one attempt which i sent to some science fiction writer friends of mine and they told me it was terrible so but um this is a long time ago no it was recently recently they said it was terrible that'd be interesting to see you write a short story based on what sounds like it's already inspiring short stories by or stories yeah right science fiction writers but but i think the the interesting thing for me is you know in the what does it what is it like to be a whatever yeah how do you describe that i mean it's like that's not a thing that you describe in mathematics that what is it like to be such and such well see to me when you say what is it like to be something presumes that you're talking about a singular entity so yeah like there there's a some kind of feeling of the the entity the the stuff that's inside of it and the stuff that's outside of it and then that's when consciousness starts making sense but but then um it seems like that could be generalizable if you take some subset of uh a cellular automata you could start talking about what does that subset maybe a few but then you can i think you could just take arbitrary numbers of subsets like to me uh uh like you and i uh individually are consciousnesses but
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