that they could do it where you could say that oh you can't put your hand down to be defensive and keep yourself from being need no they're not going to be able to do that based upon now you're now you're forcing the referee into a position to call whether the fighter did it on their own or was forced by pressure and so their hand went out based upon that pressure and you're going to be having people that are complaining about no i was forced down and you know and the referee's saying no you placed your hand out it's just not a good position to be if they could change the entire grounded fighter rule it would be great but to say that you're going to be able to take away the hand thing if they took away saying hey just putting your hand to the ground will not make you grounded in any fashion you have to have your body in some fashion be it knee be it arm be it you know elbow back butt and simply the hands do not do it that would be the way to do it but to sit there and say that to me and that that would be the only way to really have it done and i don't think that's going to happen there you go yep though since john got to answer a question i'm gonna i actually had someone ask me a question too that was very interesting that i completely had forgot about his name is sohail hamad ahmed he's hit me up in my dms and he says how come in your first fight in the ufc they introduced you as NUMBER_TOKEN in one he's like i listened to your guys's pod for the longest time now he's like but i just would like an explanation for this situation that's good john the reason why is because these websites were not around and at the time camcorders and i and phones and stuff were very expensive phones weren't irrelevant like they weren't even around i uh camera phones and all that stuff so i had no footage of the actual fights so when you fought like king of the cage that stuff went to dvds and so you could sometimes pick it up and your fight was on it and you got to go ahead and use that footage but when you in back in NUMBER_TOKEN NUMBER_TOKEN when i was fighting not all of us took camcorders and the promotion always said yeah yeah we have it on film we're going to send you a copy you never got the copy so they did they basically had your record based off of whatever fights you could prove you had well i already had a ton of fights before i got to the ufc and like i said before trevor myself and a couple of us other guys ray roth and all of us we'd drive every weekend and try and fight as much as we could you know and sometimes montana washington oregon a couple times in utah you know then you know and so it's like we were driving wherever we could to get fights and in this circuit was like misha tate um benji raddick dennis holman you know uh there was a ton of other fighters that were that were up in that area that we all used to just cross past and we train together and fight together and on the same cards we all knew of each
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