the side of being like really honest with my kids it's like i always just really want to tell them um the truth yeah so i don't know i would just say i don't just we just don't really speak anymore it just happens it's okay i think that's what i would do but i don't really have i don't think i think they don't care enough about my life to be quite honest either my kids they always have like so much going on and so many different people coming in and out and going so many places that they don't really care about anyone else but themselves yes you know what i was thinking about what do you think would be santa cause obviously i think jamie's gut would be like oh kids but what do you think would be sadder if you were the biggest loser in the world or if your kids one of your kids was the biggest loser in the world like what what do you think is sad or a sadder life to live um for me personally if i was the a big loser versus my kids being a big loser i mean one of your kids if you want one kid maybe you were just like yeah it's sadder if one of my kids becomes a huge loser i can cope being a loser and i do every day but if i had to know that my kid was going out there experiencing the world in that way that would just be the worst what if you both were the biggest losers jamie see but here's like here's my thought right it's like if you if you grew up the biggest loser and such a loser like are you even gonna be able to like enjoy moments with your kids or you're like wow life is so good if you're like such a loser you know what you were well you can't be such a loser that you you had a kid you've got yeah what exactly what's your definition of somebody who's living life as a loser i feel like that that's something that's a good question to get into because i think we all may have different points of view about what makes somebody a loser yeah jamie go ahead no rob you go ahead i have the sharpie now not just me and jamie always going ahead i'll tell you what i think in my head when i see somebody who's a loser i immediately think hoarder by the way okay you think you're people that you watch in your tlc shows here's why i don't think a hoarder classifies as a loser for me because when i watch that show essentially i'm seeing people who are who have been traumatized who haven't dealt with trauma and it's being manifested in a way where they're hoarding things i don't necessarily see loser as i see somebody who's like just got a lot of problems that they haven't dealt with or like you know like somebody could potentially come out of that or you could be a hoarder and still kind of cool you know there's there's this guy across the street that lives by me he's a hoarder but he's he's
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