you're not getting you're saying that there is an obligation and i'm saying no there actually isn't an obligation to utilize your body to take care of a child you can relinquish the rights to that child at any point in time and it is no longer your obligation yeah but it's not yours but it's someone's it still exists no but it's not yours it's nobody's individual obligation right luckily we live in a society that has an infrastructure that takes that takes on children from people who have relinquished that obligation but there isn't anybody going up to chill to parents who have given up their children for adoption and saying to them nah uh you can't do this you have an obligation you absolutely have to be you have to be the one to take care of this child you can relate you can say in that instance no i'm not done speaking yet please one moment please make in that instance you can say you know what and and we'll even play into your argument i don't want to use the resources of my body to take care of this child even external of me you can say i don't want to do that and then you don't have to you could you could maybe say well i don't like that that makes me feel icky because i feel like someone should have to take care of this child and all of us have that sort of inclination well most of us i would like to think have that inclination which is why these infrastructures exist but the fact of the matter is that there is no obligation for anybody to take care of a child until they agree to that social contract until they say i okay agree that i will take on this child and i will have the i will have the burden of care that is something that i agree to contractually and then once you have custody of that child then you have an obligation legally to take care of that child and i would argue more morally but not up until that point most people that do that are parents that actually gave birth to the child but not all and the parents don't have to yeah okay well i think i think the point that needs to be made is that the infrastructure is still made up of people it's not some nebulous thing yeah and so the burden is getting passed to someone if someone will land with that it's not gonna end up in the gutter and the know who's gonna land with that burden someone who's consenting to take on that burden ding ding yeah but the thing is if they ever so so okay so would you what you point out is one option yes you can pass the burden to someone but you cannot you can't just say i acknowledge you have the burden and then just totally forget about it because then you are held responsible so i mean once you're consent to taking that on yes for sure absolutely once you consent to that social contract yeah sure didn't be negligent you agreed to do something and then you didn't do it yeah but the point is even if you're so basically you're saying you know if you you can basically just kick the king down the road um no i'm saying that no one can force me to do anything with my body that's what i'm saying no one can force me or you or arden or anybody else to do anything with our bodies like nobody can use a part of my
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