slight different perspective and again we don't tell these stories so that people will stop being christians like that's not the motivation i will say that my motivation is that people will remove themselves from harmful belief systems whether those belief systems are harmful to themselves or to others and in some cases that might be some forms or some expressions of things like christianity but you know yeah i think that that was maggie's process and and maggie's process was being in a belief system where their identity their very identity was being questioned that was something that we had the privilege of not having to worry about being who we are and the demographic that we come from our identity was anything but questioned in in that evangelical setting it was all validated so our journey is different but yeah i think that um it it is a heavy responsibility and we do take i mean i will say we take it seriously like yeah we calculate the things that we say and there are some times that we might say something and then we think about it a little bit later and we say i think that that could be taken the wrong way and to say hey kiko let's take that out you know we don't do this podcast live because we are very concerned about being able to we we know that people listen to it and are getting something from it and sometimes applying it to serious parts of their lives so we we take that responsibility i'm not saying we edit it on a regular basis i'm saying every once in a while we might say something and be like that might be taken the wrong way let's not include that and it by the way credit to our our team credit to kiko as well as jenna and other team members who uh they serve as a filter for you know i they believe the best in us and they know what we're trying what what we're trying to do and what we're trying to communicate and so there there are it's not infrequent for us to have conversations about hey i feel like this might have been unintentionally triggering or came out the wrong way um and then so maybe we just cut around this just because it could be misunderstood and because we're works in progress right yeah i i hope i hope that NUMBER_TOKEN years we say the wrong things and we didn't even know it lots of times i mean sometimes i say things and i didn't and i never intended it all these things happen but NUMBER_TOKEN years from now i hope that i'm different than i am right now and then NUMBER_TOKEN years later i hope i'm different than i am NUMBER_TOKEN years from now so um i don't really i mean the point being that yeah i'm glad you don't take it that you don't take it you don't take it too much on yourself you don't see that responsibility as something that becomes debilitating and then you're afraid to talk about it yeah and so but i will since we're talking about the team here i'll say you know what we wouldn't the show wouldn't be what it is kiko without your help jenna thanks for being here too for all your help in that and uh we really appreciate it kiko i can't see your face but i know there it is in the glass but yeah it's uh you know kiko's voice
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