sort of fully libertarian libertarian idea of total free movement of labor and people i i just practically speaking i don't think that that would work but we've got to give permanent status to daca recipients number one guest worker program absolutely people often when they say shut this down shut that down they don't understand not only the degree to which industries are dependent on workers from other countries sometimes undocumented but also why some of the things that they have are far cheaper as a result of that labor and it's very hypocritical when you hear people who want the cheap stuff if stuff gets more expensive they would attack whoever the president is but they also want that very same president to quote keep people out incoherent doesn't make sense and i'm for a whole bunch of the things you're proposing not open borders but for a lot of the things you're talking about yes okay uh in terms of border security though how would that work because from my understanding our current state of border security is not only notoriously corrupt but it's also just like not working i mean uh people are still able to like it's mostly there to be able to prevent um i guess like drug traffickers from coming in but they're still managing to like come in at a rate that benefits their type of business and industry so i was just wondering like in terms of border security how should we reframe that so it's not just like a black hole that we're just spending a lot of the taxpayer money on well two things we are disproportionately focused on people just physically crossing the border rather than people flying in and just staying here or coming in with a visa and staying so one of the first things you have to think about is you can disincentivize people from doing the illegal crossings by making it less necessary to do that and so a lot of the programs you're talking about guest worker programs etc they they remove a lot of the need to come in the way that you're talking about so we just need to be thinking about it you're completely right that if you just change one thing it doesn't change the entire dynamic we need to be thinking much bigger thank you david appreciate the call thank you so much there's aaron from los angeles one of our sponsors is shaker and spoon the monthly cocktail subscription box that delivers ingredients and recipes for artisan cocktails right to you i've been having fun using shaker and spoon to make cocktails at home one of my favorite is citrus paradisi great blend of vodka tonic lime green tea and rose rose you open up the box the whole presentation is awesome they've got all the ingredients except the alcohol and really easy instructions even if you know nothing about mixing drinks like me you're still going to have fun and create drinks that turn out really well i've been impressed with the results i've gotten with the shaker and spoon recipes you learn a lot about mixing drinks it's fun to do on a date night it's a great time and it makes a perfect gift because you're giving someone a really cool experience shaker and spoon is giving you NUMBER_TOKEN off when you use promo code pacman at checkout go to URL_TOKEN pacman and the link is down below
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