form that has to produce ammonia because otherwise you would die because essentially you have to lower the acidity of a droplet to livable levels then you would choose the reaction that causes the least amount of energy and that costs the least amount of water because as we established the the actual limiting nutrient in the venusian clouds is hydrogen and is water the water problem is always going to be present this is something that everybody will fight if something lives there everybody will fight for to get water so of course this reaction this fixation of atmospheric nitrogen is a highly energetically costly reaction so it always takes energy to to do this so it's not that this is some something that life will make lightly but if everybody in the clouds let's say doesn't have a choice then you just have to do it because otherwise you just cannot survive but what is the implication of the riemer's model as also is that he actually with his ammonia with the with the inclusion of ammonia in this in this photochemical and chemical model he is able to explain multiple of anomalies that were simply non-explained previously or completely ignored uh like for example the detections of oxygen so what we are actually able to do is we do not have to discard the observations that were done before but we actually can modify our models to not only encompass everything that we knew before about about venus but to encompass some measurements that were discarded because nobody actually knew how to implement them into the model and of course this has another implications the rimmer the new ammonia model rimmer rimmer model has another implication is that the deformation of this or the neutralization of the sulfuric acid in the cloud droplets actually leads to the formation of salts in the in the in these particles and this brings us to the the to the beginning of our interview when we talked about the initial measurements of the probes done by for example pioneer venus probe that suggests that that the bottom clouds that the mid to bottom clouds need to lower clouds of the of the of venus contain some particles that are indeed larger and non-spherical and this to a degree could fit with the prediction that if you actually did indeed produce some sort of neutralizing agent either through mineral mineral delivery from the surface or through ammonia production uh in the clouds you actually would end up having uh having a a salty slurry so to speak in the bottom in the mid to lower lower layers of the clouds so this would also explain this anomalous uh so to this anomalous measurements of non-spherical droplets at the bottom of the clouds so we do not have to in principle assume that those early measurements by pioneer venus were a known news they might have been we don't know that but but we might we might we do not have to immediately assume that they indeed were wrong this sounds suspiciously like something evolution would do in other words as venus died and became increasingly acidic any life that may have formed there in you know the hypothesized oceans of venus would adapt any way it possibly could to neutralize the acid environment and try to keep it as sort of someone sort of similar to how we ourselves still carry the ocean in our bloodstream in the form of a slightly saline mix this it's it's keeping an environment that it once had by neutralizing the sulfuric acid because it had enough time to evolve to be able to produce ammonia to neutralize it so this starts
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