that in winter that this tent is not quite as warm as the other two however i found you get much less condensation the guy ropes on the scarp are very short i might actually upgrade these so they're a little bit longer and these side guys didn't actually come with a tent for that kind of money you would expect that they did come with it but cost me a couple of quid to get one and then i just fitted it myself so i've used this with and without the cross poles in windy conditions and it coats with everything really well moving on to the doors the hilleberg has a storm flap which covers the zip to keep it waterproof tearing over the same quite a big storm flap on there the scarp doesn't have a flap as a waterproof zip instead which works really well but the big bonus on the scarp is it's got a door on the other side as well so that means two entrances two vestibules for storing your gear and cooking that's about it for the outside um one thing to mention though is how much these tents flap so the hilleberg is quite flappy so wind gets under there makes for a right noise in the middle of the night the scarp is a really quiet tent however if you're not using the cross poles you know these um straps do flap and bash against the tent so a bit like beating a drum and also you know you're better off tying these off a little bit because in the wind these will flap and you can hear them southern cross doesn't flap very much at all i really like this tent it's really sturdy in the wind partially down to it's got a bit lower profile all right let's get them open and see what it's like to live in these scents scarp when you open the door you want to tie it back as these little velcro things which bit rubbish if i'm honest with you um they could do with upgrading to proper toggle they do the job but it's not great it's the same on this inner one as well um so big wide doors but you've just got a little bit of bungee that you have to tie in a half hitch it's almost like those little things are an afterthought and they've just chucked them on at the last minute they're tearing over that has one of these little clips that you clip onto um the pole there's another one there look which is okay and i do quite like the idea however it's quite difficult to get them on and off when you're inside the tent it's just something that you have to get used to the hilleberg
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