it's also really really rewarding and it rounds you out as a human being like you learn things from being a parent that you can't learn from being a pet owner you know and you're you're essentially absconding your position in the great chain of civilization you know if you like every individual is the the result of a lineage that goes back like a billion years you know to the very very first organisms to you and you're like yeah so i don't need to carry on that chain i can just abolish all of that i'm just going to live off other people's effort and energy it's like you selfish PROFANITY_TOKEN what makes you think you have the right to just be like yep i don't need to do anything about upholding this civilization by producing future generations for it i'm the sort of person who's going to get myself sterilized i'm going to sit there and drink my wine and live off the fruits of this like some sort of conqueror it's like no and this this is a totally unsustainable attitude it's not gonna last you're gonna be miserable and you're a really selfish piece of PROFANITY_TOKEN i don't know if it's a moral obligation but i definitely think that it's an optimal way for society to move forward okay let me let me stop you there right i don't give a PROFANITY_TOKEN about what's optimal you know it is a moral obligation because all their life they relied on the that other people had done and if they think that they can just inherit all of this and say i'm just going to take take take take take then that makes them selfish which is a moral judgment it is a moral obligation interesting i've been thinking about this a lot i can tell yeah i can tell is this what keeps you awake at night wrong with us there's there's nothing wrong with it it does there's nothing wrong with us asserting these sort of deep concepts that we have naturally in our language you know things like betrayal deception selfishness you know we don't have to just go for the sort of thin scientific term that's like well it's optimal is it yeah you know is it i don't care that's really interesting like talking in what almost sounds not medieval but certainly more grand terms more it's relational language yeah right every every every you know when you when you say you're selfish you're saying there are two people involved and there's a relationship between them and that should have been a certain way but it's been betrayed or undermined or something like that i've just realized that i don't i don't see that sort of language used pretty much at all on the internet i very rarely talk about betrayal in obligation belonging you know none of this stuff and i wonder i've noticed this trend on twitter that let's say that it's dunk it's just a dunk fest right everyone's just trying to get one over on somebody else whenever someone says something that say that there's a conflict back and forth between two people whenever someone says something about the other person the the in vogue thing to do is to come up with some dry witty quote tweet response yeah it's never and even the people that are in the comments below that are trying
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