all right hello verdict plus it's great to be with you today we have a great conversation upcoming as a reminder if you become a subscriber on verdict plus then you'll get all kinds of great content just like this on a regular basis with me today is senator ted cruz of course this is of course verdict plus is your namesake and president of students for life kristin hawkins thank you both for being here this is great thanks for having me all right we have a lot of great things to talk about um a lot of things happening at the supreme court dobbs of course i mean we're all waiting with baited breath here um i think today what would be really interesting is to talk about the philosophy of the fight and then the practicality and the legality of the fight so senator i want to ask you about dobbs but first i want to talk to kristin about this battle plan that you've just released and how your new fight or the new wave of the pro-life fight is in a sense the ideological descendant of the founding and this is a very nerdy very philosophical very very compelling and interesting line of thinking can you explain this to us but by the way i've got to say that could describe this this podcast very nerdy very philosophical what was it very something line of thinking yes it's it's i mean it's it's there you go very nerdy very philosophical welcome yes thank you for having me yes that's a great moment yeah so we just released this new final fight for freedom battle plan you can download it you know digest it on your own students life org slash fight but essentially is what we're talking about is you know we're going to be hearing about abortion a lot in the news if you already haven't been you're going to be hearing about more if you don't like to talk about abortion i'm sorry you're going to be talking about it and it's going to you know it's going to continue to be an issue du jour and when we talk about this issue of abortion sometimes we often hear like the rhetoric of the left of your body your choice and we we kind of delve into that but it's why does this matter why is abortion wrong um not you know it ends the life of a unique whole living human being it wounds a mother ends a legacy of a family but it violates these very core principles of our nation's founding this our first fight for freedom was this revolutionary war to you know win back our right to govern ourselves then we had the second fight for freedom for all americans to become citizens no matter their skin color um and in NUMBER_TOKEN seven men of the supreme court sorry senator seven men came handed down decision which took away the freedom the right to live for millions of pre-born children and really it's created this fundamental disorder of the hierarchy of our rights in our country of you know life liberty and the pursuit of happiness with roe v versus wade and dove vs bolton being handed down NUMBER_TOKEN it said no your pursuit of happiness trumps another person's right to life and it's created all many of the problems that we see today this dehumanization that goes on in so many battles across our country are being waged because we've gotten this wrong and that's why we're calling it this final
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