again i can't remember which and then he left at that point a real apex behavior stormed off the set caught you know and again all this because sydney didn't know that he didn't want to talk about this article where he admitted to being a cuckold he admitted to it he said in multiple times he had enjoyed watching other men please his wife and that's fine but to me that's not masculine and and really the way he acted is why people are unfollowing him not because he wrote this cringe article five years ago but you know not because there's this other really cringe article from five years ago it's that he acted like a child and that's not masculine and the whole thing is a mess and people aren't exactly willing to allow it to go away which is what jack murphy really wants hundreds of people are unfollowing him every time more information comes out to me i just want you know the men in this community to be very careful about who they give money to and i want to end this video with a little insider information on the luminal order uh this is a comment from somebody who is in the liminal order quote you can see what they advertise on the website but in reality it's a forum and a private chat in wicker which is like slack there are discussions on masculinity and sense making but those are every couple of months most of the events made by individual members are not centralized to the luminal order in other words people just meet each other and decide to have a hangout or event the luminal order has a few guys who make products and then they name them not going to name this person and sell it to the luminal order members i think that's kind of scummy because they charge NUMBER_TOKEN a year and you just end up getting sold a NUMBER_TOKEN class on philosophy there's a central boys club in lo that does a lot of selling to lo members i think they see it as an opportunity to make money jack murphy has had several blow ups on members of the lo he called a guy a fat a and kicked him from the organization for saying jack was cowardly for getting the poke uh there was the jacked brunch event which costs money as well as suits and stakes event the night before suits and stakes cost NUMBER_TOKEN dollars per person there are fitness standards but no one enforces it there are attempts at bigger things but those member are member driven and mostly just hype they get forgotten as fast as they come up um the rights i left because it's a men's organization that doesn't get past being a boy they still look look up to pick up artists and bro culture but nary a word about how to be a good husband father or man it's a lot of disaffected young guys and old divorce dudes don't listen to jack hope you enjoyed this video we'll talk to you real soon
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