we are discussing a number of different items generally about the process that you oversaw as editor back in the NUMBER_TOKENs and NUMBER_TOKENs and i want to focus specifically on issues relating to jack kirby you're aware that this is a dispute with the kirby heirs nod's head up and down as an answer uh you've got to say yes on the record yes when did you first meet jack kirby well the first day that i came to work at timely comics which was either NUMBER_TOKEN or NUMBER_TOKEN. and over the course of the years what was your relationship with mr kirby well on my part it was very cordial i was a big fan of his from the beginning now i'm going to focus on the period of time at issue in the NUMBER_TOKENs and late NUMBER_TOKENs and early NUMBER_TOKENs at what point in time did mr kirby come back to marvel or timely i don't remember the year but there was a time that he left and he did some work for dc comics and then he came back yes and by the late NUMBER_TOKENs he had returned the late NUMBER_TOKENs NUMBER_TOKENs let me rephrase the question by NUMBER_TOKEN he was back working at marvel in that general area maybe he left two times maybe he left in the NUMBER_TOKENs and that's what you're referring to he was back by NUMBER_TOKEN right that may be because i know there was a time later in the NUMBER_TOKENs that he left and he came back i think now focusing on the period when he was at marvel in the NUMBER_TOKENs what was jack kirby's role at marvel the same as it had always wait a minute did you say in the NUMBER_TOKENs no focusing on the NUMBER_TOKENs as far as i know the same as it had always been he was our top artist and i gave him what i thought were our most important projects and what was what were his job responsibilities as an artist well to draw the strip as well and as excited excitingly and grippingly as possible and draw in such a way that the readers would want to see more more more and who had the right to direct and supervise mr kirby's work that was me and who had the ability to edit and control mr kirby's work that was my job and who decided which comic books and characters kirby would draw i did and who gave him those assignments i did as best you can recall did mr kirby ever submit work to you or to marvel that he had done on spec not that i remember and you mentioned the situation uh with taking him off of the spider-man book in addition to that were there other instances where you did edit kirby's work well i edited everybody's work i don't remember taking him off anything else do you remember mr kirby ever refusing to make any of the edits or changes that you made as a matter of fact no jack was really great to work with to your knowledge during this period in the NUMBER_TOKENs was kirby working only for marvel or was he doing work for other publishers other comic books i thought he was working just for us now typically what was the work product after you had given kirby an assignment what was the work product that you would receive back from kirby i
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