what stan said experimenting around if you're going to do this as a medium for your work you want to put at least a few hours maybe maybe NUMBER_TOKEN or NUMBER_TOKEN hours into experimenting around with what you do okay so this is this is not charcoal is it show the camera it's both that's uh okay this is the one yeah it's covered with glass but yeah this is charcoal powder and then eraser wow okay and then a lot of the stuff on top that's graphite on top of a layer of gradation of charcoal yeah a lot of the super soft gradations in here are really kind of broad charcoal gradations with some detail on top of it yeah tremendous control over value that's all charcoal okay one where you see the strokes that's graphite but under it okay you did a better job with it there's no yeah that's no distinction yeah yeah you did a better job with it that i imagine what's likely to be done you know kissing those two media if you know the tools yeah and where you can get in trouble with it you can control it right up to the point before you get in trouble there you go there you go what's next that's it cool that's it that's the last voicemail of the season okay wow okay we did it are you happy is the last one i'm happy enough happy enough for what i mean you know we've got other things to do and we answered pretty much every question we have done our best to answer a lot of the same questions over and over oh god you're very happy i can tell your smile just can't go away you're not in control anymore of that face no it's just emotion all right thanks everybody see you next time bye see ya
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