biden say that republicans NUMBER_TOKEN democrats NUMBER_TOKEN independence NUMBER_TOKEN and if you blow your eyes you see that same thing over race over gender over education which tells me that a lot of this are republicans who believe the big lie and believe biden being in power is our democracy being under attack and so i worry so the question is what do we do we have one year we have to make not we don't just have to make a case for why people should care about this issue we have to make a case for this issue we have to explain to people that this issue is real and should be salient and central to their vote that's a lot to do in a year and i do think look i think the focus so far um and i understand it in many ways has been on a lot of these voting restrictions on standing in line and having water and food while you're standing lines like that that's what got the most headlines and obviously those restrictions are you know odious right but um there hasn't been enough uh focus on election subversion and not just election subversion in NUMBER_TOKEN but election election subversion in NUMBER_TOKEN and i think that has to be central to whatever democratic message there is about the threat to democracy and i don't think it's been central to the message up until this point i like this damn guy i think he's going places nice smart guy but i i'm and i and you know i think he makes a good point that you want to run on a big message it's got to be big it's got to be inspiring and motivating i am caught on the part like he is where you ask voters or voters say to you okay what are you going to do about it and we have very little to point to and that's hard what i'm trying what i'm wondering uh is if there could be maybe in congress somewhere some sort of bipartisan path to create a bill that's much more narrow and tailored it is just about election subversion i don't know what that looks like exactly i'm almost certain that that bill would not include uh the stuff we want in it to prevent voter suppression and other anti-democratic policies that we all hate that we've all talked about that are all very important to all of us but you have to find a way to prevent radicalized state legislatures in places like wisconsin and pennsylvania and you know name the swing states from just overturning the results of an election and just sending a different set of electors than the the people voted for for sure and i think you know we think we talked about this a couple episodes ago but the i think the bipartisan commission here maybe one result of this that they're heading towards is to reform uh the electoral count act uh so they take care from the federal level in congress they try to do reforms to prevent this from happening and maybe you get more bipartisan support for that certainly you start with like liz cheney and kenzinger being on board see what you can get in the senate and it's like you said tommy it's just narrow it's not about the other voting right stuff at all and then if someone came to me and said what do we do about the alternate slate of electors thing i would say make sure that tony evers
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