women's organizations civil rights organizations uh environmental groups and many others uh even if they have overlapping agendas and do in very significant ways support one another they also sometimes have not just diametrically opposed goals for public policy for instance some of the tensions we've seen between labor unions and environmental groups but they also compete over a finite agenda space right they all want their issue to be the one that is prioritized uh you know right now we're in a a moment where the biden administration is likely only going to have a two-year window to enact significant legislative change and so that's set off a scramble uh within the party-oriented groups in the democratic coalition to try and get their specific agendas uh at the top of the list okay and and before we get into the details again does that dynamic that you've described both the outside and the inside and uh within those different uh uh you know um two uh subgroups does that dynamic exist in the republican party in the same way that it has at least in the the period that you've covered with the democratic party is there is there as much contention um and and if not is that just simply a function of the fact that there's just it's a far more homogeneous party yeah i think what i would say about it is i see these relations of contention as foundational to what parties are parties can't avoid these kinds of relations especially any governing party is going to have to figure out ways of managing this contention so it doesn't spiral out of control uh and maybe we'll get to a little bit later what we what we saw in the democratic party in say NUMBER_TOKEN was a moment where contention was fully overwhelmed the ability of the party leaders to continue to manage it um the republican party uh does have those same relations of contention within them uh but they have they have evolved a very different what you might call management style of how to deal with these kinds of groups um that i'd be happy to get into uh in in more detail but what i would say to summarize it is that the relations of contention are still there uh but the republican party has a long history of developing very different ways of dealing with those relations of contention uh when compared to the democrats all right well let's put a bookmark there and we'll come back so let's let's talk about what happened in in in in the NUMBER_TOKENs maybe just uh tell us what what those different parties were leading into NUMBER_TOKEN and why that basically blew apart right so the democratic party from the NUMBER_TOKENs to the NUMBER_TOKENs you know had governed over one of the most successful um political coalitions uh in american history what you might call the new deal democratic party that for all its uh through those decades was actually a really weird coalition uh as as probably most of your listeners know it was a coalition that that integrated uh southern uh conservatives uh on the one hand with liberals uh outside the south uh particularly in the north big city machines uh in uh you know chicago uh new york many other places uh and that the inherent friction that occasionally uh you know manifested itself in some pretty dramatic flash points through the NUMBER_TOKENs NUMBER_TOKENs and NUMBER_TOKENs
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