chris i'm sure they threw you know gobs of money in him does anybody want to actually watch a str something year old dude interview now what he's going to get are only b rate politicians who don't care that much about his streaming service do you actually want to pay and seek that out to watch and stream it the answer is probably no i have no idea what he's doing this is like i can't imagine going out at cnn plus after your dad was a legendary newsman and you anchored probably the most watched sunday show in the whole country it's a total joke i don't know what to say yeah it's it's very interesting um i actually have a lot of thoughts about this i mean number one you know he's the type at fox news who of anybody there he had the most mainstream credibility oh yeah for sure people kind of put him in a category by himself there's a few others that you know brett bear and some others who get the the news imprimatur but he was really the one who had the most sort of mainstream cred um and yet you know he he played his role at fox news yeah he did a great good job no no i don't mean that at cable news i do think i agree with you that uh you know he was very willing to to press politicians on both sides of the eye and because he had the platform of that sunday show you know these are some of the few places where politicians sort of feel like they have to go on so even if you give them a tough interview they still are likely to come back and so he was good at that and he was willing to do it the thing with cable news is everyone is scripted into a role right and this is part of why you don't want to do cable news anymore and i don't want to do cable news anymore although i would say you know if there was a particular role where i felt like i could be useful in furthering conversation like i don't think either one of us ruled out entirely no if i cared a lot about something i would do it of course but you have to know going in what the part is that they want you to play so for example as uh someone who's on the left who went on fox news a lot of times i always knew that my job was either that what they wanted me to do was either to be like even democrats are critical of x y or z thing on the democratic side or they want you to be like the you know the paid heal the idiot right to come on and either be like stupid or be hated or be you know like just that that person for the audience to to serve as the villain and for chris wallace part of what his role at fox news was to provide cover for the insanity that was happening in so many other parts of the network so they point to chris wallace and they point to breath brett bear and they point to martha mccallum and a few others oh no we have a serious news operation and so in a way they're providing cover for some of the more you know ridiculous and absurd and inflammatory parts of the network and even though oh i'm sure
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