five months ago was it three years ago like what's Wendy's stance on it it's also ambiguous and it's just that fucking movie man they just beat those concerns so weird yeah exactly but yeah like back at the beginning of this movie when everything seems simple and we see jack is like this guy who's simultaneously he wants to fix this family and he wants to restore himself to the head of it being like a mentally stable emotionally stable patriarch good luck dude yeah we'll see about that yeah it's funny talking about like how the ADEs kids have there's a concern about television and maybe television raising kids and I having the quality time there is a line that's always stood out to me when they're driving to the Overlook and they're talking about the Donner Party and Danny's like that's okay I know about cannibalism I learned about it from TV see it's okay I saw it on the television Danni though kind of up ends this attempt at being normal because his powers on earth both his dad's traumatic subconscious and the hotels which we later realize are basically the same thing yeah yeah so the kid is kind of represents this inability to go back to a previous family dynamic and inescapable trauma we look at the NUMBER_TOKENs and it's okay we're gonna try and go back to this this earlier version of the family where it's more stable and it's this very I'd like but you can't do that right yeah exactly there's always gonna be this inescapable shift and that's kind of what children represent maybe subconsciously to us yeah because they're the future exactly they as adults will not have your experiences right adult you can't keep saying children or the future while trying to push them back into this earlier mode of child rearing and like you know being a family and stuff there's consequences so his Danny's weirdness to also kind of plays with our difficulty as adults in trying to understand kids and this I think is interesting it's kind of reminiscent of Freud's cases with children which I took a Freud class in school and like that guy the author of the uncanny child book refers to it as like hieroglyphics like it's just like trying to translate the kid symbols and stuff and then kind of what Danny is in the shining we have like flashes of symbols it's like there's blood coming out of the elevator and there's creepy twins and Redrum and Tony his weird imaginary friend who's goes and hides in his stomach because he doesn't want to come out and see the doctor like he's just all like creepy symbols and that's what's so weird because it's often what kids are just like interpreting a puzzle box or something so that's why he's disturbing he's not evil or possessed but he is just like a normal kid he's impenetrable yeah he's like so other to being an adult kids are just so different mentally than adults are and we're adults we like lose that yeah yeah I know I think that's one of the things that makes Stephen King's stories so interesting and relatable is that he seems to have real been able to retain that sense of beyond yeah for sure Carolyn and poltergeist is another one of these kids to you and she doesn't
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