not uh a sympathetic villain but i understand why he is doing what he's doing well okay what really i mean like why he would fight tooth and nail to control power like this is well yeah but that's not that's exactly what i'm talking about right it's like i can understand why he's doing what he's doing it's to be to have all the power yeah that's not super compelling to me right it's like if you have an if you have an ideology that says okay i need to take power and give it to these people because of this moral reason you know uh or i need to have the power to protect people uh and and he ends up doing evil things because of that that's compelling but i you know the example of his uh disabled son brother uh that's his son that's one of his sons he's like maybe he has an attachment to his own family or maybe he like i i imagine that if he had a kid and he wasn't the kid wasn't useful in some way he probably wouldn't feel bad about killing it right killing him maybe maybe not i i feel like it the movie indicates that that that dude is smart or whatever he probably is a strategist and he has employees you know he's useful in some way but that's all i'm saying i feel like i feel like the only motivating factor that i see on a morton joe's side is power it seems like he knows that he's lying to these people about the valhalla thing so it's like it's not like he actually believes that he's manipulating everyone interject here with wow what a range of kids this guy had on the one hand classic there's that dude with the upside-down feet and then he also fathered richtus god damn yeah that's the entire spectrum but it's interesting because rictus isn't perfect because he can't breathe without his apparatus like is that the indication or is he so spoiled that he needs extra oxygen yeah operate at his best i don't even pick up on that yeah was that like the same reason why they both needed masks or whatever i thought a morton joe was because like he's dying and he needs extra oxygen just to live but rictus seems like he's in great health yeah but is that just like a father-son thing where it's like oh the the true privilege get extra oxygen oh maybe yeah maybe i thought it was just like there's such a range because it's radioactive wasteland you know i thought that was just like a fetish people's jewelry
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