where nobody nobody really doubts nick's prowess as a bodybuilder anymore you know that's true okay another example another example for breakout would be when jay cutler placed second in NUMBER_TOKEN. yeah yeah because he went from like NUMBER_TOKENth to second or something like that or yeah okay so i'm trying to i'm still looking for i'm looking on my channel she really listen best overall season i have ian and nick yeah nick one two shows and then took top five at the olympia ian won three shows oh sorry no he won two shows two seconds and seven of the olympia yeah it's arguable i mean those are i mean winning the arnold's a big deal though it is what do you think roman yeah um piggy banking of what you just said if you consider hunters going up four places so great he would qualify for that as well because yeah yeah guy what do you think best overall season or are we only counting like placings well we're not counting just i mean you kind of kind of have to count placings however he did three shows and killed every show yeah nathan won quite a few shows i was going to say is there somebody else but i don't think the status it's hard it's hard when when nathan's a great bodybuilder but and this is not a knock on him but when you don't when you can't make it to the o and stand on stage to solidify what you did that year it's kind of hard to be in that category yeah it's kind of like that's not a knockout nathan he didn't do anything wrong you're just going to make it to the olympia it's kind of like picking in other sports when they pick the best of all time they count rings you know what i mean so you can you got to count the olympia like if you don't do the olympia i don't think you can have a best i don't include you in that either yeah your best season has to include a good spot at either the arnold like i know he won the arnold uk but it's not the same as the arnold ohio and then he won the arnold uk and like what two other shows yeah and i'm not making light of it i'm just saying i think the olympia supersedes well put them in the mix people can vote on it yep okay nathan um anybody else decent season two i guess who's that justin make you make your case well he won a show came second in a show didn't he he came fourth at the arnold he came eighth at the olympia he's in there i i just think if he's not gonna be ahead of me or nick or anyone but he's i really think it's i think it's a two-man race honestly i think it's you and nick because second at the arnold winning two shows and then seventh at the at the olympia and then
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