science fiction or you know just as a as an audience member can you enjoy it oh NUMBER_TOKEN yeah no i have no trouble whatsoever uh violating laws of physics or or inventing complete fantasy uh the two things that bug me are not making sense and like i said just total incompetence purely for story reasons like this person has to be dumb to make this event happen and like right you just weren't working hard enough as a writer there i'll tell you something that i can't remember someone might have taught this to me or perhaps i'm remembering it incorrectly but when we're in the writer's room one of the things that i'll say frequently is and which is not to say that we sometimes we have failed but that that i hate coincidences that work in the favor of the protagonists that's just bad storytelling however i think coincidences that work in favor of the antagonist and that make it worse for the protagonist i think are okay because you know i you always want to make it as difficult for your protagonists as possible and so i i do think an occasional coincidence that works to the favor of the villain is permissible yeah in fact i think that's exactly right i'm on board with that it's the self uh harm that i that yes that wine bugs me but that's another example okay uh have you seen breaking bad oh yeah okay very very better right both both are incredible incredible shows and you know walter white or um you know saul goodman bo in both shows frequently self-harm themselves i mean they both trip over themselves and and part of the fun of that i won't say fun but but but part of the reason i think you you watch those shows you say oh please don't do that please don't do it please don't do that but the fact of the matter is that human beings work against their own self-interest all the time no it's true all the time anyway i'm just i'm just arguing against your equivalent no i mean i i get it and in fact this is one of the i think that's what stopped uh breaking bad for me one of my all-time favorite shows but on the other hand he was super competent at his domain expertise right you know he was the best chemist around so like when he got to that he he could shine one of the things that we're playing around with in the latter half of the season as a preview on foundation um and then in future seasons are are the sort of yes i mean harry selden is the consummate domain expert um but he has his shortcomings yes his personal shortcomings and we're going to uh and they're a product of his experience and a product of his um his childhood and we're going to start to explore those uh and and they do inform his math and they did inform psycho history and so but that's interesting as well and certainly something that that asimov wasn't interested in exploring no we didn't learn a lot at least in the original series in the original original choice yeah that's right um so this all brings up like a bigger picture question maybe you have thoughts about this or maybe not but science fiction of that era and maybe even today has a self-image of being the literature of ideas right you know this is
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