so if it is let's say it is a gray area which i don't think it is you know i think life is a particular thing it has to begin at some and it only makes logical sense to say that you began to live at the moment when you came into existence as a distinct and separate being that's it that's the only thing that makes any logical sense as well scientific sense but even if i were to agree that this that it's a gray area that wouldn't justify abortion at all because then what you're saying is well it's possible i mean there's a very real possibility that the um the quote-unquote fetuses we're killing are alive that they're they're living persons but let's kill them anyway and that is not a morally justifiable position you know what that's like that's like firing a gun into a dark room yeah well you don't know if there's anybody in there you have no idea you just open the door dark room you don't know if there's anybody in there and if there is anyone in there you don't know where they are and you just fire fire shot into the room i ask you if you were to do that and yeah you don't know maybe you might even think that well there's nobody in the room there could be but i don't think so if you were to do that and you shot and killed someone should you be held morally responsible for that well yeah of course because you knew there was a very real possibility that there was a person in that room and you fired the gun anyway
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