human and it seems to me that religious arguments for immortality would have the same problem if you're at upon your death if your soul whatever that is floats off your brain or floats out of your body and up into into heaven wherever this is or whatever it is they it seems like they have the same problem what's actually up there yeah you know and yeah no no i entirely agree i said give me a little bit give me the latitude and the longitude so that we can find it uh well theologians debate this like whether it's your physical body is is reconstructed in heaven uh or it's just your soul just a pattern of information which again without the body it that can't be you they say it can't be the same you anyway yeah no i think i think these are interesting concepts that came at a time in which people's grasp of of the the the reality of life of course very different because there was not any science or there was much of it uh and and so the the way you describe especially if things are very complicated and outside our immediate vision such as the mind in terms of the others that of course is very different and and it creates it opens lots of possibilities that have been explored in in many philosophical and religious systems which i think you know that the thing that is valuable about those systems is of course the kind of analysis they make of the human condition and the kind of recommendations that they can make for how to live better once you are alive and and that's a different story from the conception of what is happening to your soul where your soul is and so forth those are different the different considerations and also if we take you know the whole life um the whole sorry the whole life chronology you know if i if i'm uploaded now at age NUMBER_TOKEN but let's say i would have lived until NUMBER_TOKEN well that's not the full me uh you know i've just missed NUMBER_TOKEN years of of whatever the memory patterns would have been or in the theological argument some actually argue you're you're reconstructed as a physical body in heaven with god and jesus or whatever well what what age well they said well age NUMBER_TOKEN is about the right age because that's when jesus was crucified and that's your kind of your ideal physical state well but yeah what happened to the NUMBER_TOKEN years of my life since i was NUMBER_TOKEN that there's a whole set of memories there and patterns and and that's all gone yeah it's just gone to waste yeah yeah that's that that's strange that's for sure uh but so then the other the other fork down to the ai route um you know how many let's say computer neural networks whatever we want to call them would it take to for the the computer to be sentient or conscious or whatever or is that even a right question to ask about ai and computers you know the arguments but how do you think about that sure of course no no no oh i i i think that that it's it's possible to create a very interesting simulations of minds and uh but i think that the the basic situation of ai is very it's very good to solve problems for us technically you know to store memories to manipulate uh symbols all that is terrific and i'm all for it but the idea that it captures what we are in terms of a
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