in oakland the guy that ran it that was the cult guy and my other friend was his lead you know priest and he would dip the the white washcloth in the toluene and then he would put it in a gallon ziploc bag and he would hand them out to the people and they called the washcloths soaked in in the toluene the lamb this is the lamb of the lord and i mean i was like man they came to my house i took their washcloths from them and i threw it up on the roof they climbed up on the roof and got it back you know what i mean like i also wonder was that a government research project what the hell what was i what was the name of that group i i don't know they they never really had an official name you know what i mean i will say that at the north carolina advancement school which is a place i was talking about where the government had me do esp research the thrust of my research there i knew about lsd i had read about it but i had no way to get my hands on it it was legal at the time so i used a glue specifically stanford's rubber statement glue and i did all these esp tests on people after i hypnotized them and sometimes without them typing them and had them sniff glue and do these esp tests you know i mean um i had one guy who could it appeared to be able to influence the flight path of uh sps industries and model rockets we did all these tests to see if there was they could psychokinetically cause a rocket to go to one side or the other and he appeared to have that and i had another person who with the zener card test it has like five different symbols it's the standard esp test and there's NUMBER_TOKEN cards five of each and the person tries to guess is it a wavy line a heart a circle you know and there were these five symbols and i had a guy who in his normal i kept a uh you know as i would have them guess the run of the cards i would write down what they guessed each card was and his most people it was just chance you know and but i kept a record of each time that they did it you know i mean i would test him like NUMBER_TOKEN times in a row and i had one guy when i went back and he was guessing three runs ahead and he was guessing sometimes with NUMBER_TOKEN accuracy in other words he was guessing three shuffles down the road and with guessing NUMBER_TOKEN accurate according to my crude NUMBER_TOKENth grade in not so scientific research you know what i mean but since then you know i've it's something i regret in some ways because i thought if the government got those results and they probably they were already hanging out with ryan and so they at the parapsychology lab so they probably did know about my results and if somebody could influence the flight of a model rocket and if somebody could guess the order of the cards with a hundred percent accuracy before they were shuffled even you know even though my test was not nearly scientifically rigorous if the government heard that i'm afraid they went and took those people away from their parents and you know they mean they're telling what happened
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