law on you you must wear a veil you must eat this kind of food it's it's not that parochial but one another quick thought about your interesting claim about charisma in this i think that the one self-limiting feature of this subculture is that definitely you know i mentioned the enigma of not wanting to be seen and that the kind of invisibility is a productive force of power you know which a colleague of mine who knows ancient history far better than i you know said this is you know when she looked at at maloma initially or we come up bin laden i mean this kind of studied posture of staying in the shadows yeah is also a source of authority potentially because it it um it invites the idea and it's partly dictatorships do as well i mean it advises the idea that someone's working and maybe it's the basis for a lot of q a or other conspiracies today that someone's working behind the scenes and things are going to go the right way you can't see it that's almost preferable because you can kind of feel it and so not having someone out front can maybe maybe more effective than having someone out in front constantly then they and then the whole bin laden you know omar thing like you can't see me or if you look at you know bin laden's photographs and his video stuff i mean he's he's coy uh some observers have noted he's kind of effeminate he doesn't strike this kind of masculine he's not a mussolini he's not a hitler macho i'm standing my thumb in my chest he's not doing the theatrical chin you know the theater people tell us is so aggressive um you know or chin what bringing your chin up i saw a great uh bbc theater person it was kind of a it was a makeover show about how to become a better creator oh no uh just a powerful uh yeah leader authoritarian figure no just how to how to like get ahead in life and then oh okay cool and just like about acting like how you can act differently right so it was it was a bbc thing um and this woman claimed that um you know sticking your chin out like a wrestler does right is the most like male-to-man i love this kind of mustache hilarious analysis that people have about power but watch the chin watch the chin it's the same as analyzing like in wrestling styles that win or fighting or so on there's so many ways well the chan i mean the chan is a could be an interesting verbal gesture and i uh i've watched enough mussolini footage from my classes to try to pick the right moment and the chin is misleading is all about the chan so and i have watched human beings and human nature enough to know that there's more to a man a powerful man than a chin yeah no no i'm saying no i'm saying it's an active aggression i'm not saying it's it's one of the many tools in the toolkit
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