or an msnbc you then first amendment says you can't do anything about it because they're expressing a point of view that's that's protected by the first amendment if they're a social platform that says no no we're not going to put the finger our thumbs on the scale we just want to connect you with your family members and your loved ones and your high school sweetheart then that's fine that's harmless there's no until terrible things happen right and well they kind of escape because of that whole point they're right in between aren't they right because they don't like so even on the even on the first amendment side there are limits to what you can do under the first amendment speech you know is not entirely free but because we don't regulate them as that and then the whole section now we're verging back into section NUMBER_TOKEN i don't think there's much uh the government has not done much to correct fox news for covet misinformation for instance sure right no but there aren't their limits the limits do exist but they're not i mean sabara is high yeah as it should be as it should be agreed so this is like maybe that is maybe there's you're that's a interesting choice of words daniel rubino that they're skating they're they're getting by by pretending to be a media company when it's convenient pretending to be a social network when it's convenient that's always been their remote right is that's always been the essential question are they a platformer or the publisher that's always been like the essential questions and they're a little bit of the boss yes and they are and they are what they they are what they are when it's convenient i think that where it becomes i think where even their common carrier stuff whatsapp i think is an easy common carrier argument to make although that would open up the regulation i think whatsapp is very easy to make that i think facebook and instagram are different because it does determine they have a role in their algorithms and in their policies and their procedures on what you see and how you see it and what is uplifted and what is not and we also let you pay to amplify things right like you can do you know promoted post which is a huge part of how people see content and that's a huge part of their business and so that to me then takes the the common carrier element out of it for those platforms because they are a publisher in those senses you know even yeah it's not like the phone company said hey i think you'd be interested in some more terrorist phone calls would you like those exactly they don't do that they are pure platform um yeah it's really interesting you know we've never seen information warfare the information warfare potential with this stuff is just truly frightening as governments become more aware of how you can weaponize this technology like having a phone was one thing but it's not like you know china also then started calling everybody's phone in the united states and being like you know the president is bad or something like that like technically we do that internally we don't need china to help right right but like that didn't happen but now with these apps and services as soon as countries and governments figure out how they can weaponize this stuff it becomes uh very dangerous how they
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