standard on those websites like people will just take your money and deliver nothing it happens more times than not i feel like what happens do they just like not refund like does indiegogo just go sorry yeah no no it's literally indiegogo and PROFANITY_TOKEN kickstarter are literally vehicles for committing fraud oh nice i didn't know i've never been on well either way so the the trump wall those guys actually got busted because they did it on gofundme they did on gofundme but sometimes the case is raised to the point where uh some a district attorney will actually investigate because it is a crime yeah but like PROFANITY_TOKEN uh you know kickstarter they give you the money and then that's it that their job is done yeah that that makes sense i mean look at least they're being creative excuse me at least they're being creative they're not using like nfts you know the the crypto rug pulls like everyone else is doing like did ayden ross gonna come out with this next week guys didn't soldier boy come out with his own console but the conservative one is like very common this is like a super common thing that conservatives do there was like one kid it was like a crypto bill the first crypto millionaire or whatever it was like NUMBER_TOKEN or something uh he had a freedom phone i don't know if you saw this the freedom phone oh this is exactly the same PROFANITY_TOKEN so the freedom phone was basically like a alibaba drop shipping campaign for huawei phones that are like literally less secure than a regular android you could buy a chinese backdoor oh yeah yeah well not just chinese backdoor it's like easily i think it's like easily hackable too and it's basically just like rewrite the apps and say like you could have all of your banned apps on this like that liberals don't want you it's like dude they're going to make money off you either way and also okay moment that you put a sim card in your phone it's over like everybody knows where you are well here's an article about it yeah i mean this is the grift ladies and gentlemen and you're going to see it week after week and there's a video for this too this dude bitcoin millionaire eric finnman announces the freedom phone it's a genius man yeah that's what i'm saying if you didn't care and you just wanted to make money grifting conservatives is definitely the way to do it yeah they got they got deep pockets they are easily motivated okay they're super easily motivated they will immediately like they have a lot of they have a lot of disposable income and they're willing to like you know consume stuff that makes a political statement you know what i mean so it's it's a super easy way to oh so here what if i don't receive my perk indiegogo is unable to guarantee that projects will succeed or that perks will even be delivered or deemed satisfactory so there you go yeah griff secured yeah just don't go on indiegogo yes i was reading your friend's article um where'd it go i was getting to this point where it says well what is this device and uh i wanted to read
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