basics and sort of the starting point you need to understand first now let's start looking at suppressors versus subsonic when it comes to this and it turns out with both of these if my team doesn't have a spy plane up and i don't have any intel up it doesn't matter if the enemy is using a silencer or the subsonic ammo type both of those will keep you not only off the mini map but also off the compass and this is also regardless of whether or not i'm using the radar perk that has no impact on this suppressors and subsonic by default will keep you off both of those radars but now i want to see what happens when my team has either a spy plane or i have an intel in the air these behave the same when it comes to this and the enemy player here is using ghost i'm making sure i was keeping him moving as well so he was staying off the radar his ghost was activated and when he's firing his suppressed weapon as you can see here he's not popping up on the mini-map and he's not popping up on the compass so it's doing its job there now let's have a look at subsonic and it's the same situation here he's got ghost i'm trying to keep him on the move to keep his ghost activated and you'll notice as he's firing his gun he does not show up on the mini-map or the compass however you will notice his dot is showing up every time it sweeps even though he's on the move and he's using ghost and this was an extremely surprising result for me and i figured out what is going on with this it turns out if you're using ghost with a silencer as long as you're on the move even if you're firing your gun your ghost will continue to stay activated and like i said you will never show up on the minimap or the enemy's compass for firing your weapon however when i did this same test with subsonic you'll notice that as i'm moving here my ghost is activated but the moment i fire a shot it completely deactivates my ghost perk even when i am moving above that movement speed threshold to keep my ghost perk activated it will still disable the ghost perk for NUMBER_TOKEN full seconds which is quite a long time keep in mind between spy plane sweeps you only have five seconds so you have a very brief window between those sweeps which you can't see by the way so you don't know exactly when these sweeps are happening in order to fire your gun and then reactivate your ghost perk through movement which is just not practical and what this means is the suppressor is the superior option when it comes to staying off the radar especially if you're combining it with the ghost perk and the enemy team is calling in spy planes or intel and these are going to be coming in constantly throughout a match so i'm sure that right there is going to cause a lot of you guys to start switching your class setups because if you're using subsonic and ghost as soon as spy planes start coming in on the map that subsonic is now no longer really doing its job properly like i said you're still not going
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