when you get someone to open up about their emotion about something they're passionate about i think that breaks down some barriers and that's a really good question bond yeah but uh reuben wouldn't be that's not a style like that's a great question for you to ask well i told him to say michael malos for biden um that would be a tough one because biden gets doesn't get enough credit for what a good politician he is there was this moment people can see on youtube where biden is addressing a room full of people and he had someone there and he goes can you why don't you stand up so everyone can uh um give you a hand and the guy was in a wheelchair and violence like oh and like but instantly he goes you know what we're all gonna stand up for you and he made everyone get up and applaud the guy yeah i'm like that's quick like yeah you made a fool of yourself so he is a glad hander in many ways he's more of a schmoozer than trump was like trump made the point that he knows all the good people but biden knows how to shake hands well i think with both and sorry to interrupt but both trump and biden like you mentioned earlier to me at least their family is fascinating the dynamic this is a family man as a father i think that biden won't acknowledge his illegitimate grandkid is a problem for me uh but at the same time i can see why he think it's off limits to ask so that's the thing when you're dealing people that powerful they're not used to having to answer questions which might be perfectly nice but would cause them to freak the hell out that's the tricky thing of talking to people as you know like some some topics are off limit not in in that they draw lines but they just shut down yeah yeah when you ask them uh the trust is i think talked to elon three times now you better believe i brought up love and how far do you think that got and you could just one we did we did uh exactly the kind of robot back and forth yeah just like just shut down so yeah i i worry about that with personal but those that's the thing that makes it fascinating with those two because he had um with hunter and losing his like the dynamic of the complexities of all that like just having uh you know children PROFANITY_TOKEN up in the way children do and then with trump the interesting dynamic with his very different kids and they're all kind of interesting in different ways and maintaining connection with all of them and also letting them flourish individually is fascinating to me well i'd also want to ask trump if he can name all the presidents in order which there's no way he can yeah but i'd also want to know all the pres do you think he knows who the second president in the united states is yes okay john adams he knows i think when it gets between ulysses s grant and mckinley that's when we all screw up that window it's tough yeah yeah i'm sure that's the one window where he i mean he he's not he's
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