Thread: the T-role play with me game.

Mr Quixotic said As was bolded in my previous post, it's creative-decision making, which one completely avoids taking responsibility for. That is completely different from being 'able to write in a creative manner'. It's the intellectual ability to be able to write a character who has to find a way to achieve their goals. That's what takes creativity, in my mind, and what I look for in a collaborative story. For the type of creativity I'm required to provide to be reciprocated. Click to expand... So if I understand your position, you posit that creative-submissive is a contradiction in terms and in doing so, you define submissive as completely avoiding taking responsibility for decision making. Which you explain is lacking the intellectual ability to write a character who has to find a way to achieve their goals. In other words, it's a contradiction in terms for a person who lacks intellectual ability to be creative. Given that somewhat tautological definition assuming creativity does take intellectual ability, I can't argue with you. But again, I point out that a writer is not synonymous with the character. What you posit as submissivelack of intellectual ability, I would simply define as bad writingbad writing. While you may not care for a writer in the vein of Anais Nin in her Delta of Venus and Little Birds , I would argue that any flaw perceptible in her writing is not due to any lack of intellectual capacity to drive a story forward . In the end though, I can only argue this point so far as I am not in any sense a more than decent at times writer. I have a distressing tendency to overuse adjectives, I routinely confuse homonyms, and my efforts at creativity derives far more from cliche than glowing originality. Also, I look for characters with real human qualities, goals and desires, and a writer with the creative ability to attempt to find ways to have her character achieve something. Being 'submissive' does not mean you can't actually have your own motivations or 'part to play', independent of a male. Click to expand... I agree completely. Writing a submissive role is not an excuse to engage in lazy and unoriginal writing. It's certainly not a pass to create unbelievable characters lacking in genuine emotion. I do agree that ... being 'submissive' does not mean you can't actually have your own motivations or 'part to play' .... The reason I often fail to attain those admirable aspirations is simply that I often write at work or the end of the day or at times when I'm tired and ground down and even at the best of times, I'm simply not a grand writer. To avoid disappointing my partners, I confine my writing to those writers with slightly lowered expectations. This doesn't mean I don't strive to do my best or that every now and then I don't hit those high notes. As for being on the other side, I've written just about every side of a DS relationship and many non-DS relationships and done so, I like to think, with a certain amount of plot-driving creativity. But I also know the side I prefer to write and develop when engaged in collaborative writing as opposed to writing stories for a site like Literotica.