Thread: If Freedom Isn't Free ....

LadyYunaFFX2 said Then why do we offer it? And I'm serious, not speaking as liberal or anything. Just a curious citizen that made a bit of a realization after some thinking. We say we have multiple freedoms, especially in the Constitution. And yet almost every time some event - be it good, bad, or otherwise - comes up that involves it ... it gets manipulated and used against people more often than not. Like here's one of the many examples. This one just came to my head first. Anti-freedom of religion Or at least it seemed like an anti-freedom of religion type of thing to me. I mean ... it was just a mosque. And yet so many people tried to protest on it. But we're guaranteed Freedom of Speech and Religion in the Constitution. Or if you want something more recent, the National Anthem being sung in multiple languages at the Super Bowl. It's not like the song was being insulted. But people took it as that. Why? It genuinely confuses me. So ... see the cycle that I do? Ergo if we don't seem to be sincere on giving so many 'freedoms' to our own citizens, why do we do it? Personally, if we're going to be hypocrites and go against our own vows, I don't know if we should continue to try to reassure people that they have these liberties. Now ... with all this being said, I'm curious on what others think about this. Again, this is just to see the points of views from others, regardless of whether you're from the States or not. In fact, those that are out of the States, feel free to speak up. If anything, the outside factors and opinions will make this all the more intriguing I believe. No flaming or arguments here, please! And ... go. Click to expand... well the whole mosque thing goes deeper than that. On the level that most people protesting it is, it is a symbol of islamic conquest, and of course no-one wants that. on the deeper level for the more intellectual people who protest it, it's very much the same issue, the act of building a mosque either nearby or directly on top of what used to be a great monument to the conquered land is an old Islamic practice to show their conquest and domination over their enemy, and the fact that many of those who have funded the ground zero mosque are various Saudi, Egyptian, Pakistani etc... groups who have been known to send funding to al-queda, that is a pretty big red flag to they want to declare us conquered Well honestly, the people who say that freedom should be free are usually some skinny, self righteous assholes sitting in a starbucks sipping their Lattes while writing poetry on their mac about bringing down consumerism. Freedom is NOT free, nothing is, you want something free? look at north korea, that's what happens when people don't fight, bleed, cry and die for freedom, when the blood price is not paid all the blood will still flow, but not for freedom. All I can say is, be grateful, because the fact hundreds of thousands, MILLIONS have died just so you can ask why isn't freedom free? should speak much louder and clearer than any post on a forum thread. and also, yes people are free, but we also have rules, laws, people who break those laws scream so much for freedom when they have no idea that no matter how free a society is, there will always be rules to follow, that's what separates a free society from an Anarchistic Clusterfuck