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Thread: [Dark Ages Vampire] Roses & Thorns

So my thought for my character are Giovanni mortal officially serving a noble member of the family but the person they are serving is only a child still who has been sent away from home with servants and guards due to some hostility with other families, however the real reason my character is there is to see about securing the interests of the family in the region before they commit more important people and being a lady's maidtutor to the child is merely a cover so would need to keep up appearances but loyal to the mission rather than the person in question. Before I do a full write up wanted to check if anyone wanted to combine backstories, i.e another member of the entourage or the noble possible aged up as needed for your character.
Thread: [Dark Ages Vampire] Roses & Thorns

I very much like the idea of you all having a combined and interlinked backstory this comes from playing Fate a wee bit. Would one of you want to play the noble that you serve is your cover sire? Or would you want him her it to be an NPC? But having said that, these are your characters. I don't want to put hard arbitrary limits. I just want to make sure that expectations hopes aspirations are aligned.
Thread: [Dark Ages Vampire] Roses & Thorns

Well at the moment I am thinking that the noble would effectively be a powerless child and really only a ploy to put my character into position but if someone wanted to have the noble be an adult etc and play them that would be grand. For supernatual stuff I have kindof settled on taking a decent bit on Occult but more importantly going with Medium, Oracular Ability and Spirit Mentor as merits ... so she would actually have a fair amount of non-standard access to tricks indirectly for a mortal, which might be why she was choosen - the family doesn't want to risk a vampire but also does want to see if she is worthy of being made a full member. Just to clarify I don't want to rail-road others into following my lead - there is no reason anyone else would need to have any connection to her or the Giovanni depending on there own backgrounds just throwing it out there as a option she could than be a mortal contact in the game with wierd knowledge and protection meaning the others are content to work with her.
Thread: [Dark Ages Vampire] Roses & Thorns

Well, since it seems we are kind of moving away from starting off as supernaturals Thought this might still work for a couple of Revenant Families and just because I kinda love the idea of cowriting stuff like this up because that's how the most interesting ideas usually come about I'm willing to play a young noble but putting my own spin on it 1st Not a child but definetly not a man either, say 15 or 16, young and inexperienced, mainly focused in the more martial aspects of his role, because we both desperatedly need the muscle and because what fun is to be a noble if you don'tget to ride on a horse, covered head to toe in heavy armor and answer to everthing by grabbing at your sword, so he might have made a name for himself already in squire tourneys and resently in regular ones, despite his young age, so he could be 'recently knighted' 2nd Not exactly of the highest birth, just the cousing of a cousing or maybe even just the son of a bit of a praised knight that happened to be married to the right lady at the time when some other noble croaked, now however, he has the legal rights to this fortress and might even have enough mercenaries to put the place in order 3rd Nothing is written in stone, I know I usually play Tzim and all, but if we are going to start as humans, we can lead one way but maybe we can end up in a completely different place, I'm willing to go building the character either mid play or just be spoiled and get to move a few dots to not be completely useless with my disciplines once I get any, I'm probably gonna base myself on Physical Disciplines at the begining anyways Tzim, Nosferatu and Lasombra are all fine choices
Thread: [Dark Ages Vampire] Roses & Thorns

That would work I wouldn't really see my character as subservient to your noble they are there for the family's interests. She may be 'serving' your lady wife some woman you might not know that well. So this might be that the lady wife might have gained the castle - my character would be officially serving her as a lady's maid while trying to make ensure that the Giovanni can have a foothold in the region if needed. Meanwhile your character might be recently married to her serving some other group of vampires perhaps and trying to ensure that the interests of your masters are represented - and the two being on the lookout for competition decide to team up rather than oppose one another? Your character adds legitimacy mine lacks - where mine with there connection to spirits adds some protections from others that yours lacks. If that works LadyStarWarsFan might actually be the lady in question or an advisor to a local noble - if that interests them.
Thread: [Dark Ages Vampire] Roses & Thorns

Not much Vampire experience, but I love groups that discuss concepts and tie-ins with each other. That is my jam. I am currently considering an older vampire with perhaps too much caution, one who is more about hiding and preserving than gaining. Lasombra or True Brujah seem possible choices. Thoughts?
Thread: [Dark Ages Vampire] Roses & Thorns

The problem with older vampires nearly any vampire really as I see it, is they can't really have the knowledge they should have without being able to effectively being a co-storyteller. In a large city with call it 40 vampires even a 20 year old vampire would be a expected to know all there names and b at least have someone give them an overview of their personalities and history. The vampire would also be expected to have some passing ability to understand how laws are interpreted by the local undead or at least have been briefed on it etc. Just working in a small company for that lenght of time you would pick things up - esspecially with quarterly meetings at Elysium where the faces never really change. This is componded if for where there are less vampires. Now this is a bit of a personal bias of mine against starting as vampires - there are ways around it amnesia, having fled some other local and needed to take somewhere for hidding where you knew no one etc - but I think it just makes things a bit harder than having the entire undead thing be a bit of a mystery that the storyteller can reveal in their own way. Having said that if you were interested in going that route if your character owed a debt to the Cappadocians or Giovanni or some other clan - such as them getting you out to safety from your enemies in exchange for service we could easily tie things together that way. i.e You are a vampire who owes your unlife to my characters masters so you need to lower yourself to working with a mortal in an area you are unfamiliar with while you hide out until you can reestablish your powerbase. But not sure that or a variant would work for you.
Thread: [Dark Ages Vampire] Roses & Thorns

To my mind, the best way to start a Dark Ages vampire game is to have players who are 1 New to a city region 2 New to being a vampire, or just about to become one. As in, they've not met the Movers and Shakes in the Court before, and only vaguely know about NPCs 3 Hit by some plot device which means that they don't know the big names. 4 The other option, of course, is simply to force-feed details when you meet the Vamps, and let you decide what if any dealings and feelings you have for them when you encounter them. This can get a little silly at times.
Thread: [Dark Ages Vampire] Roses & Thorns

Really appreciate the troubleshooting. I actually kind of like the idea of an established vampire having had to uproot and work with mortals in a new area to reestablish a domain...very demeaning, which is fun to see. Perhaps the Prince in his old area who offered him minor protection was overthrown, and my char had to leave, taking something of value to an NPC like the previously mentioned lady wife perhaps through dancrilis' char? who made him the deal to let him oversee a keep if he helped capture it and swore fealty to her? Seems a decent combo of 1 and 3 from Mystic's list. I'd see him as overwhelmingly a mental type with Disciplines focused on defense. Also, once the other PCs are embraced, he would know a little that he could teach in terms of Disciplines.
Thread: [Dark Ages Vampire] Roses & Thorns

There's a whole heap of backgrounds and flaws that are available for Plot Device above Infamous Sire 1 Outsider 1 Sire's Resentment 1 Amnesia 2 Oathbreaker 4 Nameless 5 Or we can easily come up with a new disadvantage that explains why you're a vampire but know little nothing, and have been sent to redeem yourself in the eyes of your Clan Sire Faction. EDIT Or you could just be a dirty dirty Caitiff .
Thread: [Dark Ages Vampire] Roses & Thorns

Kckolbe I'd just love to play movers and shakers at least once, but alas, this doesn't seem the place for it Dancrilis Well, I was hoping on being the legitimate heir, since that would make things much simpler, also, I like the idea of an arranged marriage As if there were any other kind at the time? but the hopes were to marry the daughter of some otherlocal noble, to have, you know an extra layer of protection, which would be really helpful, but I like the way you are opening up space for LadyStarWarsFan, if she like we can go with that arrangement, otherwise, we can let mystictiger break the tie Mystictiger There would also be one more option for a troup of old Vampires that would also make the ST have to work a little bit less, we get together, we come up with our characters, their stances, relationships Kinda like in Fate and the NPCs we would inevitably, drag along Vampires and ghouls that work for them, by instance, rivals, enemies, lovers, we could populate a small place with about 20 Vampires in no time, best part is, you could still decide to change things and keep us guessing with either newcommers of duplicious bastards Most Kindred anyways Just a suggestion though
Thread: [Dark Ages Vampire] Roses & Thorns

I would like you lot to become Movers Shakers, just not start out as such. In fact, my aim is for you to become the Big Fish tm in the relatively small border-town castle. Once you're established here, then you can go to the Big cities like Magdeburg or Constantinople or Rome as people of substance. But! As with all things, these are just suggestions
Thread: [Dark Ages Vampire] Roses & Thorns

SKHB I think you missed some key details. He would not be a mover or shaker. If anything, he'd be the shakee. Mystictiger Infamous Sire and Outsider both definitely fit the idea, couldn't find oathbreaker or nameless. I'd prefer not to have amnesia, makes it more embarrassing if he knows why he has to work with mortals.
Thread: [Dark Ages Vampire] Roses & Thorns

Oathbreaker 4 DAV20, p425 Once you swore fealty to a lord, promised your loyalty to an organisation, or made a binding business contract with a powerful person or something similar. You have since broken that promise. Your motives may have been pure, but you are now branded as an oath-breaker. It is near-impossible to earn the trust of others, which, at Storyteller's discretion, can increase the difficulty of Social rolls to convince someone of your trustworthiness by as much as 3. Even the close members of your coterie have reservations about you. Nameless 5 DAV20, o425 You do not exist. Certainly, you still walk the earth and your friends and kin can still see you and touch you, but all records of your existence have been destroyed. Not even your vampiric progeny can lay claim to your name. As far as anyone can prove, you never were. If you take this flaw, you may not take any social merits that grant benefits based on reputation. Who or what you have made so angry that they have erased your existence from the face of this earth?!
Thread: What's happening to me? (Maiesiobreed x wolvenrogue)

Jeremy held the phone away from his ear and tried to smile at the department store clerk as he stood in what was probably the most foreign environment that an early 20 something guy could imagine, the maternity department of a womens clothing store. It might have been weird enough if he had been a 30 something guy in a polo shirt and dockers with a stylish 2 day beard. But no, his skin tight skinny legged black jeans were topped off by a black Agent Orange tee-shirt with a long list of tour dates on the back. The shock of blond hair he wore was died black in odd places, and he wore black eye shadow under his eyes giving him a decidedly goulish look. Beneith the tee shirt he wore two full sleeves starting with the words dead man tattooed on his knuckles. His skin was pale white and and there were one inch gages in each ear lobe. Suffice to say he was no ideal father figure. Rather he was every mother's nightmare. Just the same here he was. He handed the pink flowered dress to the clerk along with a handfull of wadded up bills. He couldn't believe he was buying such a thing. It seemed more of a tent than a dress, but then that was what she needed, and he had seen her looking at something similar in a woman's magazine. Since when did she read them anyway. It was wierd. But then everything was wierd right now. There wasn't much to be done about it. Here he was beng stared at like an animal in the zoo by a bunch of women with swollen bellies and swaying tits. He stopped and thought about that for a minute. He wondered if the tits would stay when Robin gave birth. He hoped so. She had been rather flat chested till recently, but now? OH MY GOD! The woman across the counter handed him his change and put the dress in a bright pink shopping bag. He couldn't help but notice how she smirked at him as he left the store. He tossed the bag in the back of his beat up Chevy and headed back to the apartment. He only hoped Robin would be in a better mood than when she had called. As he walked up the three flights of stairs , he wondered to himself how she had even managed to get up them, swollen as she was. He took a deep breath before entering, and seeing her semi reclined on the couch and held out the pink bag hopefully. I got ya something
Thread: What's happening to me? (Maiesiobreed x wolvenrogue)

If it's not a double cheesburger deluxe from Burger King, than I really don't want it, Robyn said, her hand over her eyes, rubbing her temples as she tried to calm the pounding headache that had just decided to rear its ugly head at that moment. She cracked her eyes open and saw the bright pink shopping bag and looked at it suspiciously. What is it? She said, reaching out and grabbing the parcel from Jeremy. She shook it, it didn't seem like food and it immediately put a frown on her face. Why was she acting like this? Maybe it was nice! Maybe it was something that she had been asking for and Jeremy had gotten it for her...why was she already putting it down? He did something nice for her after all. She reached in and pulled out the pink dress.... What the hell? You got me a dress? What are you trying to say? She said, tears starting to well up in her eyes again....god damn these hormones. Are you saying you don't like the way I dress?! What the fuck, Jeremy?! She took the dress completely out and struggled to stand up, her back arched as she bent back under its great weight. She wanted to throw it away, wanted to rip it to pieces....but it was actually kind of pretty. Not her style at all, no, but....well...it was so fucking girly, it would show off her bump and her breasts quite nicely. I....I guess I can try it on at least to see how silly it is, She said, doing a complete 180 as she waddled out of the room into the bathroom. After a few moments she reappeared, one hand cradling her belly, the other cradling her back....her black hair and black nail polish made the pink in the dress stand out completely....her nipples were throbbing, almost threatening to rip through the dress. God, it made her feel like such a girl....and it was turning her on.
Thread: What's happening to me? (Maiesiobreed x wolvenrogue)

Jeremy smiled at her and his eyes not so suddenly traced there way down her body and stayed riiveted on her nipples as they treatened to poke holes in the butter soft material of the dress. It was made for comfort and it gently hugged her. It didn't hide a thing, but then with her size, nothing could, and what it did for her breasts was insanely sexy. You look ...amazing!.... uh Wow! He stepped behind her and wrapped his arms around her tucking them up under her huge breasts where they rested on the shelf formed by her belly. He loved how wonderfully soft and full her breasts had become, but he was careful not to openly cop a feel. he just hugged her back against his chest and nuzzled behind her ear. Pregnancy agrees with you he said without thinking and then cringed as he thought too late how she was actually feeling as she bounced through life like the goodyear blimp. What I mean is you look sexy, especially from here he cringed again and desided to just shut up before he got himself killed. I saw you looking at one just like it in the catalog . I hope you like it. His heavily inked arms formed a colorful stripe acros her belly and he hugged her gently again hoping to make her feel loved even if she didn't feel loveable. For his own part He had never been particularly romantic before, but seeing her so heavy with his child was changing his perspective. He wondered what was growing inside her, a boy or a girl. Looking at her he imagined twins were possible. He had't gone with her to her ultrasounds, she hadn't volunteered and he hadn't asked. Want to go out to Burger King for cheese burgers???? He volunteered.
Thread: What's happening to me? (Maiesiobreed x wolvenrogue)

It....it does? She said, as she looked down at her swollen body, now encased in the delightfully pretty and feminine pink dress that she was so unaccustomed too. She let out a light moan, his arms rubbing up against her breasts. She had to admit that this part of pregnancy wasn't too bad....she had never sports too much in the chest department prior to getting knocked up and it was nice to actually be able to sport some serious cleavage. You...well...god you're so nice to me sometimes....thank you for the present, She said, as she rubbed her belly underneath his arms. She had been to several ultrasounds already and had gotten to the point where she was seeing her doctor twice a week....she had told her she had wanted to be surprised about whether the baby was a boy or a girl...she hadn't even asked to know if there was more than one in her....she wanted it to be a surprise. Ohhhhh cheeseburgers sound so good! That would be great! She said, wriggling her ass back into his lap.
Thread: What's happening to me? (Maiesiobreed x wolvenrogue)

Alright, but you better sit down and let me help ou with your sandals. I don't think they serve barefoot and pregnant girls at burger king . He couldn't help smiling as he said it, but he did manage not to laugh out loud. He pulled out a kitchen chair, and taking her hands in his slowly lowered her into it. It was a recently adopted process, but one that helped her to sit down more normally rather than plop down like a sack of potatoes. Jeremy grabbled her sandles and strapped them onto er somewhat swollen feet then got up and again taking her hands helped her back to a standing position. He wrapped an arm around her back and under her arm , gripping her firmly along the swell of her right breast. Taking her left hand in his he walked her out of the apartment and toward the twoo flights of stairs between the apartment and the ground floor. The trip would have to be made slowly and carefully but he didn't want to chance a fall so late in her pregnancy. Ready? he asked her as they reached the top of the stairs. Even he was having trouble seeing the stairs as her belly almost completely blocked her view. For her it was a walk of faith as she could see notheing bu the view out the windows. He tightened his grip on her hand and they started the trip down.
Thread: What's happening to me? (Maiesiobreed x wolvenrogue)

It's so pathetic, but there is no way I'd even be able to get around if it weren't for you. I'm helpless, it's kind of sad when you really think about it She said, as she tried to look down at him but realized her belly completely blocked him from view as he strapped her sandals onto her feet. Tears welled up in her eyes again even though she wasn't particularly sad...it was just...it was just all too much. She gathered herself and smiled when he helped her up from the chair, the piece of furniture creaking in relief as her swollen body heaved off its surface. I'm ready, She said, her nipples throbbing as his hand gently caressed the side of her breast. It wasn't even in a sexual way, but her body was so sensitive and so hard wired for physical contact that she couldn't help but let out a little moan as she swayed from the left and the right, walking ponderously down the stares. She waddled over to their car and got into the passengers seat, long impossible for her to even fit in the driver's side. The safety belt strained at its longest length before she was able to click it safely in.... This is so pathetic...I almost can't fit in our car anymore, she sighed.
Thread: What's happening to me? (Maiesiobreed x wolvenrogue)

Jeremy looked over and smiled. He didn't comment on her anxiety. He knew that nothing he could say would give her much comfort now. The only thing that would really help would be delivery, and that was a few weeks away. He drove slowly to burger-king and as he pulled in to the lot asked if she wanted to go in or just go through the drive through. It seemed to him that she might be more comfortable just staying right where she was. He even considered reclining the seat for her to take some pressure off her belly. Well what will it be?
Thread: What's happening to me? (Maiesiobreed x wolvenrogue)

Ooof thank you for driving, Jeremy.... She said, as she felt herself recline back into the chair, out of view of anyone who would give a cursory glance over to the car. She heard him ordering, getting her two double cheeseburgers, and her mouth watered as she rubbed her globe like belly with both hands. She closed her eyes...this was, well, almost comfortable and when he handed her one of the cheeseburgers she was in complete heaven. Mmmmphhhhhhh god, so goooooood, She said, as she took a bite out of the first burger, inhaling almost half of it at once. As she continued to eat she noticed she was doing something that she had fallen into recently....she was moaning, almost sexually, as she chomped away at the food. What the fuck is happening to me, she thought to herself, was she really getting turned on by eating? Were the two one in a same now, in her insanely confused, bloated body? It certainly seemed that way, as her nipples were again throbbing with every heartbeat. She knew she was out of site...and her free hand snaked down in between her legs, pulling up her dress. She had sworn she would never do this again, it was too fucking weird....but the moment was too perfect and she couldn't help herself. Plus, she had neglected to wear panties, so it would make this very easy. Hmmphhhhhh fuck yesssssss She hissed, as she took another bite and her petite hand worked its way into her sopping wet slit, arching her back as her sensitive clit sent electric waves of sexual energy through her body. D....don't judge me.