Thread: America forever????

Tathariel said After talking to several other soldiers and other various people it seems that the general census is that America is gonna last forever, or that is untill it either merges with another world power to form some sort of alliance where America is still in charge. Things that point to this? 1. We have the best military in the world. 2. Obama lol 3. Slowly but surely we're expanding our borders to contol more territory and resources. Now if anyone on Bluemoon wants to debate this I would love to hear the arguments. And if anyone has any particular point they would like to bring up about something else that they think will happen soon to America bring it up. Im totally cut off from News most of the time anyway, so anything intresting happening in the world for the past month would be news to me. Click to expand... I would like to start by saying I'm not American, and have nothing against you guys, I love you all. However. You don't have the best military, not by a long shot. You have the best technology yes, but not the best military. Your doctrine is to throw as much ordnance or soldiers at a problem to solve it, which isn't the best by any means. Armies like the UK, Israel, and France can do a lot more, with a lot less. Korea, Vietnam and now Afghanistan have shown that the shock and awe effect doesn't always work, and that a determined people with the most rudimentary weapons can keep you at bay. The seeming inability to understand people of other cultures seems to stand in the way of developing ways of defeating them. It appears that the approach is just to make bigger guns or bombs. A point already mentioned is the American lack of understanding of other cultures around the world, this is a case in point. Why do you think the US is regarded as The Great Satan by middle eastern cultures? The other reason? Friendly fire. You guys kill more allied troops than any other army in the known world. In both Gulf wars NATO lost almost as many troops to US friendly fire than they did to the Iraqi army. Obama is the best thing that has happened to the US in a long time. You may not believe it, and I don't know much about his domestic policies, but he has done more for your country on the international stage that any president I can think of. He spends his time telling the international community that America is listening now, and wants to play a part, rather than bully their way on to the international stage. Size isn't everything. You may be increasing your territory and resources but you also use more. The US uses the most raw materials of any nation. China is catching up, but you're still number one. You are either going to have to learn to recycle more, consume less or invade more countries to get what you need. The UK and Spain are tiny compared to the States, yet in the 16th century owned half the known world between them. It isn't the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. While time has moved on and neither of those countries are anything like as powerful now, they are still a valid example of what can be achieved regardless of size. If you have more territory, you need more resources, to get those resources you need more territory. See the problem? Beside those points I would have thought that the events of the last couple of years would have shown that nothing is forever. Your financial system nearly brought the first world to a standstill. You now have more debt than ever before, and it's going to take years before you are fully recovered. There is absolutely nothing to say that won't happen again, and the quote from the dude at Goldman Sachs saying making money is doing gods work is a sign of things to come. Your society is on the point of implosion. You are more obese, and have more health problems than most other developed nations. Racism is rife, and many segregated parts of society are just left alone to do their own thing. That problem is just going to keep on getting bigger. Yours is also the only developed country where the populace doesn't trust the police. Without a law enforcement body that has the confidence of the people how is your society going to manage to last another 100 year, let alone forever? They are just some of the reasons the assertion that America is going to last forever is incorrect. There is no reason to say any country is going to last forever. We all have our own problems, some more immediate than others, and most, if not all will have to be solved in order for any of us to survive.