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Thread: On holiday with dad (with GenderBender)

Dad looked so pathetic standing there, like he didn't know what to do. His cock was still thick and stiff, swaying with a thread of cum hanging almost to the floor. I felt so guilty at leaving him like that, just to protect that dress, but I couldn't really explain to Sally that my dad had cum all over it, now could I. Anyway, I caught it in time, which is the main think, although I cannot wear it back to my room, not with a huge damp patch, so it looks like I'm going to have to stay in dad's room until it dries out. I feel I have to say something, after all we couldn't just stand there staring at each other, with each of us trying to pretend we weren't staring. So I tried to carry off some flip remark about being overdressed. I mean, he couldn't take me seriously, could he, not with me standing there is a tiny bit of material no big enough to use as a handkerchief. But he comes right back with me being the one overdressed, which was true I suppose given that he was totally butt stark naked. My instinct was to step out of the panties, but before I knew what I was doing I was in full teasing strip tease mode, like the one that used to get Simon so hot under his jock strap after a strenuous game of soccer. So there I was, slowly lowering the thong and then, just at the last moment, twisting to give a view of my ass as the thong fell to my feet, and then i bend over, full view of ass, to pick it up before turning to reveal myself in all my glory with my neatly trimmed patch of hair just above my pussy. I look down all demure and then raise my eyes under my eye lids, looking all innocent and coy. And dad just stands there. His mouth is literally open and he's saying things like, Oh shit, oh holy shit, you shouldn't have done that, have you no idea what you're doing to me, this is wrong, oh my God, please help me. Lots of stuff like that. I'm not sure what to do, so I do a twirl for him and ask 'So dad how do you think your little girl has turned out?'
Thread: Dubcon explanation?

I thought I knew what dubious consent meant. I spelled out in my request thread I require full consent in RPs. Two people have commented that my RP plots conflict with this, that several of them have questionable consent. So could I get a full definitionexample kind of deal?
Thread: Dubcon explanation?

Well one of your plots contains blackmail, which would certainly qualify as nonconsensual. The Slave one too. Because, you know, slave. unless it's some kind of willing slave kind of deal but the wording of the plot was vague. The corporate concubine is iffy. the way your plot is worded implies the assistant is willingly applying for this position and therefore fully aware of what it entails, but the tag for added humiliation says the opposite, as humiliation is generally non-consensual. Non-con is pretty easy to understand. Anything, where one of the parties is not fully on board with that is happening, or in a state to make that judgment. Dub-con is a bit more tricky as it's still non-con, full stop. but one of the parties is being tricked or manipulated in some form.
Thread: Dubcon explanation?

RainaReader said Well one of your plots contains blackmail, which would certainly qualify as nonconsensual. The Slave one too. Because, you know, slave. unless it's some kind of willing slave kind of deal but the wording of the plot was vague. Click to expand... First I'm going to say I'm not trying to argue here. I'm the one who doesn't get it, so I'm not telling you you're wrong. But where I'm coming from, I don't see it that way just yet The blackmail plot is literally, I caught you doing a thing, you should be more careful. Now, see this blackmail material? I am putting it in a shredder. I have no more material. Now that I cannot blackmail you...wanna hook up? With the slave story, I understand that slaves can't consent because they have no say in the situation. But, what happens when a slave doesn't mind their situation? For instance, You, slave, I know that you are hungry right now, and you love chocolate milkshakes. I order you to eat this milkshake. Is the milkshake consumption still non-consent? A slightly different situation Slave, I will give this taco to you if you say you would like this taco. Even if the slave wants the taco and asks for the taco, they still can't consent to the taco because they are a slave, right? If a teacher hits on a student, isn't that dubcon purely because the teacher has power over the student? It doesn't matter whether the student is like hell yes, the power imbalance makes it dubcon? Because that's what it seems to be with the slave situation. The way I understood dubious consent is like, being cornered by a situation but there's no force involved. I do not want to do this, but there are consequences if I don't, so I go along with it. What I'm okay with is a situation where there is some degree of pressure, but A the character is okay with doing what's being asked, and B saying no is an instant eject button out of the situation with no consequences. I don't know what that is defined as. All that said, I do strongly disagree with something. but the tag for added humiliation says the opposite, as humiliation is generally non-consensual. Click to expand... I have no idea where you got that impression. Saying humiliation is generally non-con is like saying bondage is generally non-con. Humiliation is just emotional masochism instead of wanting you to slap me, I want you to demean me.
Thread: Dubcon explanation?

Dub-con is going to have a dubious definition by its very nature. Consent is, all parties said yes, enthusiastically and free from duress, non-consent is, At least one party said no and in between that you have dub-con. Power dynamics play a big role in muddying up the water as far as consent is concerned. I think you are correct in your approach to it, and I think that people who disagree with your assessment are also correct. Consider the people who disagreed with you prefiltered partners you likely wouldn't have been compatible with anyways.
Thread: Dubcon explanation?

Non-con is pretty easy to understand. Anything, where one of the parties is not fully on board with that is happening, or in a state to make that judgment. Click to expand... Restating it for clarification. There is nothing to debate about the definition, as that is literally what non-con is. The blackmail plot is literally, I caught you doing a thing, you should be more careful. Now, see this blackmail material? I am putting it in a shredder. I have no more material. Now that I cannot blackmail you...wanna hook up? Click to expand... In a real life setting, there would be nothing to indicate to the one being blackmailed that the above is true. The power is still in the other persons hands because they have stated and shown they have evidence, this alone would be enough to coerce the victim into doing something he or she may not have wanted to do. It doesn't matter if they destroy the evidence infront of them because it proves nothing, all it does is make their intentions seem more confusing and manipulative. So yes you could argue that this sort of plot would fall under dub-con because the victim is being coerced or manipulated. but remember dub-con is still just a branch of non-con. the term dub-con only really has relevance in a roleplay literary setting and I don't even use it in my own request thread, since the non-con tag is much more clear and what I opt to use, even though a lot of the scenarios in my plots could be argued to be dub-con. As Xana said the definition is dubious by its very nature.
Thread: Dubcon explanation?

I see absolutely no way that the example you gave about blackmail could be seen as anything besides dubnon-con. So you call a person that you may or may not know, show them blackmail files or pics, shred them, and then ask to hook up? How do they know those are the only copies? Who are you? Why do you have these things? How did you get these things? If they say no, is that just the end of it, or should they be waiting for another call later on when you've decided that the answer given isn't the one you wanted? I'm not saying it's a wretched idea, there's a lot of possibility to make a good psychological story in there, but there is no possible way that you spin this as NOT having some elements of coercion to it, making consent dub ious at best. There is nothing wrong with writing dubcon noncon RPs, they are literally everywhere on BMR. If your tastes for a few plots do veer into the category of even light dubnoncon, then hey, why should it matter? Even a slight rewqording of how you look for RPs, instead of 'I require full consent' just run with 'I require full consent RPs, excepting one or two very specific scenarios'.
Thread: Dubcon explanation?

I think the take away here is to possibly change your interests to dub-con and remove a bit about requiring full consent, otherwise, it could be seen as disingenuous to your roleplay partners, after all the point of exploring non-con in a roleplay fashion is that it's still a consensual act between all writing partners.
Thread: Dubcon explanation?

What Raina Alvis have said here is correct. While you've pitched it as a greymail form of blackmail, that is the similar difference of dubcon vs noncon. The implication of blackmail is still blackmail. You're clarifying things from an OOC perspective, but that doesn't apply to the IC perspective. From my POV, what you've written within your RT is classic dubcon. This doesn't mean that your plots are an all out noncon story from the writer's perspective, but from an IC perspective, it is definitely dubious consent. Look at it this way, you're saying 'blackmail vs greymail', well that is akin to 'no consent vs dubious consent'. I guess it just helps to not view dubcon in a negative light - from a writer's perspective. OMG, I write such questionable horrible filth! ... Nah, you're just writing dubcon and there is a market for it here. I hope this helps clarify your question. Happy writing to you and your writing partners! Prose
Thread: Dubcon explanation?

First I wanna thank for all the replies. Second, I feel like way too much emphasis has been done on the blackmail thing. Point conceded, that is clearly dubcon. But I really would like a response to these With the slave story, I understand that slaves can't consent because they have no say in the situation. But, what happens when a slave doesn't mind their situation? For instance, You, slave, I know that you are hungry right now, and you love chocolate milkshakes. I order you to eat this milkshake. Is the milkshake consumption still non-consent? A slightly different situation Slave, I will give this taco to you if you say you would like this taco. Even if the slave wants the taco and asks for the taco, they still can't consent to the taco because they are a slave, right? If a teacher hits on a student, isn't that dubcon purely because the teacher has power over the student? It doesn't matter whether the student is like hell yes, the power imbalance makes it dubcon? Because that's what it seems to be with the slave situation. The way I understood dubious consent is like, being cornered by a situation but there's no force involved. I do not want to do this, but there are consequences if I don't, so I go along with it. What I'm okay with is a situation where there is some degree of pressure, but A the character is okay with doing what's being asked, and B saying no is an instant eject button out of the situation with no consequences. What kind of category does that fall into? Click to expand... And I know there's no moral judgment here, there's nothing wrong about playing this stuff. The problem I'm having, aside from getting my terms right, is communicating clearly and succinctly where my comfort zone is to other people. Because ultimately this is about the mental gymnastics I have to do to not feel squicked, and that cna be confusing to someone else.
Thread: Dubcon explanation?

It seems pretty clear that your realm is dub-con. I think it starts to get problematic when you keep pressing the matter about your plots when we've made it pretty clear what is and isn't non-con. there's nothing wrong about playing this stuff. Click to expand... You are absolutely correct. But I think it's important to approach non-con with a bit of care and discretion due to the subject matter and how it effects people. It can be a very triggering subject for many people, and for some it is a way to cope with the subject matter by giving them control again in a consensual environment. For what ever reason someone pursues it, I think arguing with people on what it is and what it isn't can reflect poorly, when the consensus seems pretty unanimous. Especially if you're trying to say you don't do any form of non con when your plots counter this statement it can in a way shift the balance of power between writing partners and in turn lose out on some trust. With the slave story, I understand that slaves can't consent because they have no say in the situation. But, what happens when a slave doesn't mind their situation? For instance, You, slave, I know that you are hungry right now, and you love chocolate milkshakes. I order you to eat this milkshake. Is the milkshake consumption still non-consent? A slightly different situation Slave, I will give this taco to you if you say you would like this taco. Even if the slave wants the taco and asks for the taco, they still can't consent to the taco because they are a slave, right? Click to expand... Slave play falls under dubious consent, but a willing slave, Someone who willingly subjects them self to be ordered around would technically be consensual. It would fall under non-con or dub-con if that willing slave was to suddenly became afraid or resistant to any order or approach. If a teacher hits on a student, isn't that dubcon purely because the teacher has power over the student? It doesn't matter whether the student is like hell yes, the power imbalance makes it dubcon? Because that's what it seems to be with the slave situation. Click to expand... Yes this would be dub-con What I'm okay with is a situation where there is some degree of pressure, but A the character is okay with doing what's being asked, and B saying no is an instant eject button out of the situation with no consequences. What kind of category does that fall into? Click to expand... Being pressured into something is dubious. If someones first response is no, and that original no is ignored and followed up with a response like oh come on, it's okay lets just go for it, it'll be fine. and the second response is a Yes. that is still dubious consent, because the original statement was ignored. When someone ignores an initial response and persists, it is a red flag. It means this person may not take no for an answer, and suddenly the power is shifted. The person on the recieving end then has to think will they continue to not take my no for an answer? what if they become forceful or violent? maybe I should just say yes.
Thread: Dubcon explanation?

RainaReader said You are absolutely correct. But I think it's important to approach non-con with a bit of care and discretion due to the subject matter and how it effects people. It can be a very triggering subject for many people, and for some it is a way to cope with the subject matter by giving them control again in a consensual environment. For what ever reason someone pursues it, I think arguing with people on what it is and what it isn't can reflect poorly, when the consensus seems pretty unanimous. Especially if you're trying to say you don't do any form of non con when your plots counter this statement it can in a way shift the balance of power between writing partners and in turn lose out on some trust. Click to expand... This whole paragraph reads like you're saying you even continuing to question this is potentially hurtful to people reading this thread, you shouldn't be continuing to argue. You very likely don't mean that, I don't think you do, but that's how it feels . This whole topic makes me feel one way and think another, and that's causing problems. But I'm pushing back in this thread because it's important to me. I know this entire topic is triggering, it makes me uncomfortable just talking about it for personal reasons and I'm already getting kind of emotional right now. But hashing all this out now means that in the future everything you just said can be avoided. And I know that simply saying 100 consent, no questions and never looking back is easier, but the grey areas creep up so much, and the topic is so prevalent that I have trouble avoiding it. Slave play falls under dubious consent, but a willing slave, Someone who willingly subjects them self to be ordered around would technically be consensual. It would fall under non-con or dub-con if that willing slave was to suddenly became afraid or resistant to any order or approach. Yes this would be dub-con. Being pressured into something is dubious. Click to expand... Okay, understood. All of that is clear and no problem and categorized. If someones first response is no, and that original no is ignored and followed up with a response like oh come on, it's okay lets just go for it, it'll be fine. and the second response is a Yes. that is still dubious consent, because the original statement was ignored. Click to expand... The thing is, I never get to the oh come on. I can't play a character who doesn't stop at the first earnest no. The only responses I can do are either complete backing off and shutting down, or Are you sure? Anything beyond that makes me feel awful.
Thread: Dubcon explanation?

Being perfectly honest here, this is starting to sound a lot less like you're asking for clarification and you're asking what comes close to permission. The fact that you're asking for some things that fall into the dubcon categories is fine. No one particularly cares, people ask for way worse stuff. But you've stated that you're doing mental gymnastics to justify this to yourself. That's between you and yourself, and possibly your writing partner. We really can't help you with that. If your partner sees what your asking as dub con, but you don't, pick another plot or partner. Just move on. If there's something else specifically you need clarified, then great, let me know I'll help how I can. Otherwise, make your peace with the fact that some of your needs are dubcon
Thread: Dubcon explanation?

Alvis Alendran said Being perfectly honest here, this is starting to sound a lot less like you're asking for clarification and you're asking what comes close to permission. ... Otherwise, make your peace with the fact that some of your needs are dubcon Click to expand... Yeah, this is the long and short of it. I've readjusted parts of my req thread to reflect things, and hopefully it's clearer and more accurate.
Thread: it's about the journey || bear & campion

The Road was no place for a Princess. This she had been told since she was a young sprout but yet here she was, a woman grown that was travelling on The Road that had been forbidden to her the entirety of her life... And for what? A marriage to a man that she didn't love and had as of yet to meet, and a partnership with a neighboring country? It didn't make sense to her, but she wasn't privy to the private conversations that happened in the quiet of her father's chamber hall. She was eighteen and she was understanding that in many ways her father was correct -- The Road was no place for a Princess. They'd hardly walked two miles and already her cheeks were rosy in the spring sunlight, her gentle face lit up with the strange but exciting addiction that was an adventure. Lina, you see, was a Princess that had truly been pampered. Her life had been lived in the safety of her father's castle and her world had been enclosed to the gates, which she had been permitted to approach only if the commoners were not near. She had been sheltered embarrassingly so and it was a shame, really, that she didn't know of the tragedies that the commonfolk suffered, even in passing. She had never once feared if there would be a roof over her head, never once missed a meal, and daresay she had even been rather rounded with her size. Though still a lovely girl, her lavish and sheltered lifestyle showed on her face and the way her weight carried still in her very full breasts and round belly. Though large, she was not uncomely. Her hair fell in tender ringlets that fell down her back and her eyes were the most lovely shade of green - like emeralds, her father promised as he kissed her forehead as a child. Though her eyes remained the same innocent tenderness of her youth, she was a woman in entirety now and due to be wed. As her mother before her and her mother. And this wedding was to be Sir Richard of.... Of... She couldn't even recall his kingdom. But she'd heard of him often in passing in talks of politics that she'd barely listened to. She probably should have, seeing that she would one day be expected to rule a kingdom. Instead, she talked to the one bestowed the duty to guard her, a good man that had been with her every step of their journey so far Do you think he is fair and handsome?' She mused to them as they trekked throuugh the woods in the heat of the day, breaking the silence that had fallen between them, her breathing a bit heavier than his as she was not used to walking like he was. Or perhaps he'll be dark and mysterious. What say you?
Thread: it's about the journey || bear & campion

As always, it seemed that her cousin was the more level-headed of the two of them, his feet firmly planted on the ground, which was rooted deeply in solid facts and harsh truths. Even as children he had been the more wary of the two, less trusting than herself of strangers and most definitely the first to sense when trouble was near. It was his astute sense of danger swiftly approaching that had saved their skins more often than not and his quick wit which had gotten them out of trouble. But now, she didnt value the words he spoke, not because they were untrue but because they struck like a knife into her gut. Lina had been told little of the man she was to wed save for his title in life and that he was a man has handsome as he was valiant. These things were told to her as truths that were not to be discussed or questioned, like many other things in her life. Though she had been spoiled in a lavish lifestyle, she had not been spoiled in her freedoms. Her next few steps would be the farthest she had been from home her entire life, even by way of carriage. She chewed over what he said to her, her cheeks bright and eyes focused as she struggled to find words that would not only bring comfort to her closest friend and confidant, but be a start to their new relationship. Though they had been friends growing up, her father had cautioned her to put space between them for their own benefit. In a new land, their comfort with each other may be seen as something a bit more familiar than that, and though he was a man that was more handsome than others, he was still someone that was.... A complicated choice. Her fate was not to be with someone that made her happy, but someone that would benefit her entire kingdom. They were still far from her betrotheds land and Hugh was still her friend and cousin. She broke the silence finally with a soft sigh, Do you truly think it will come to something like that, Hugh? She asked, her voice full of the innocence of a child. Though a woman grown, she had been sheltered too much from the world and still viewed it much as the youth would have. She didnt know the ravages of war or the evil of man, and she certainly didnt understand what could lie in the hearts of a man who loved power above all else. Tell me what you know of him.