Thread: At what point, if any, does police violence against minors become okay?

To answer the major question, I have to be frank and say that there is no set point for EVERY case in which I would say it's okay or not okay for a cop to become violent with a minor. Every situation is different in all of the variables and honestly, there is no way for me to put a line down. In the particular video shown of the girl in the classroom, I saw a cop that wasn't using the right methods. My husband's been trained in pain manipulation for uncooperative people and I think he should have been trying harder at that. He also put a LOT of other students at risk in the way he got her out of the desk because he could have really injured someone else. In that particular case, that kid deserved what she got. The ENTIRE story that I saw showed that the teacher had asked her to leave, the security personnel had asked her to leave, and then they resorted to police since she was obstinate against listening to anyone else. She was under 18 but that doesn't mean she has the mental capacity of a child. She has the ability to make a decision and say Oh, you know what? Maybe I should leave before this DOES escalate. They gave her options and she chose the path of it being escalated so I have zero sympathy on the fact that she was injured in being taken from her desk. Could it have been done better? You betcha. But I'm not the type to Monday morning quarterback a situation. Coming from the wife of a police officer, I have a firm belief that they DO need more training on handling situations with non-violent or less-violent tactics. The only class my husband went through on that was when he went through Basic Law Enforcement Training BLET and that's it. He took three classes - one about the use of a baton called pressure point control techniques, subject control and arrest techniques, and hand-to-hand fighting which was a compilation of the other two classes and was essentially putting what he was taught to real life. I also spoke with my husband about this while writing and he had this to say The only time that I would get violent with a minor is if they started to get violent with me. If they want to throw punches like an adult then they're going to be treated like an adult and taken to the ground. But, I will say that in my classes one thing they told me is that there are two groups that will escalate to deadly first women and minors. When dealing with the police these two groups are known to escalate towards extremes because they already feel more vulnerable than a man and we are taught to proceed with caution because it has been known for them to get deadly quick. Minors are even more so dangerous because they still don't completely grasp the reality of consequences. Click to expand... He hasn't ever been put in a situation in which he's had to get physical with anyone under the age of 18, but he has watched pretty much all of the videos of where it has happened. He agrees with me that the officer in the classroom video should have employed different techniques before resorting to what he did and that he frankly should have cleared the area of other people first because minors, especially ones agitated as she was, are extremely unpredictable. I see issues on both sides of the field One, whether you want to accept it or not, we do have a society that is being raised with less and less respect for law enforcement. People have a mentality now of where they feel like they can get away with anything. Between the time in which my father did a form of law enforcement and my husband, the differences are extremely vast. My husband has to worry about a whole hell of a lot more than my dad ever did and the attitude of the people is more or less resentment. However, the former is a result of this law enforcement now is extremely fucked up. There are so many bad seeds that are still in the garden and they're making a poor name for the cops that just want to do their job and keep the communities they and their families live in safe. The 'brotherhood' protects these bad cops and nothing ever really gets done until the public is the one to cry out against them and demand a change. My husband has not had ANY further training or refresher courses in handling non-compliant subjects in over two years. This is the standard for most departments. The problem can be fixed by addressing the issues within law enforcement itself and working on improving law enforcement training and procedures.