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[04:34] <indeedwatson> I just installed 20.10 on an old laptop and it's been in the initial lubuntu logo for 20 minutes. Any ideas before I try another distro?
[04:35] <tomreyn> hit escape, see what happens
[04:35] <tomreyn> or reboot, and hit escape earlier, and select failsafe graphics from the grub menu
[04:35] <tomreyn> of course, you should also have verified your downloaded .iso file, and the the installation media you wrote from it.
[05:01] <indeedwatson> i pressed escape and i had two options to boot, both named the same. The second booted fine, but if I reboot and just let it run it gets stuck on "powered by lubuntu" again
[05:10] <tomreyn> indeedwatson: if you run   journalctl -b -1 | nc termbin.com 9999    this will upload your log from the failed boot to termbin.com , a pastebin-like website, so that you can share it.
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[09:12] <lubot> [telegram] <anonid> i paired a bluetooth headset with lubuntu and one day it doesnt get paired automatically also i cannot see my headset in list of available devices in bluedevil wizard app. i checked with my other devices the bluetooth device is shown there but its not shown in bluedevil wizard. i tried uninstalling the app and reinstalling also but it didnt work
[09:35] <lubot> [telegram] <anonid> someone please help me with this (re @anonid: i paired a bluetooth headset with lubuntu and one day it doesnt get paired automatically also i cannot see my headset in list of available devices in bluedevil wizard app. i checked with my other devices the bluetooth device is shown there but its not shown in bluedevil wizard. i tried uninstalling the app and reinstalling also but it didnt work. what should i do now.
[09:35] <lubot> [telegram] <anonid> version lubuntu 20.04.1 lts x86_64
[09:35] <lubot> [telegram] <anonid> kernal 5.4.0-58 generic)
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[12:39] <simon> work?
[12:41] <simon> work.
[13:07] <inpanic> can someone please help me?
[13:08] <indeedwatson> i couldn't solve my problem last night, after a fresh install my laptop gets stuck on "powered by lubuntu". If I press escape as it's booting and select the second option (even tho they're both named the same), it boots; but I need it to just boot regularly without having to do that
[13:09] <indeedwatson> would be helpful to know what that second option changes, but they're named exactly the same
[13:57] <KGIII> You could look at /etc/default/grub to figure it out, though I'd personally use the GUI tool grub-customizer.
[14:10] <indeedwatson> what should I look at? The only thing that seems relevant is maybe GRUB_DEFAULT=0, if I change that to 1 would it select the 2nd option by default instead?
[14:20] <indeedwatson> mm still stuck. I guess xubuntu it is
[14:22] <KGIII> It's much easier to use grub-customizer. Your favorite search engine will show you how to get it installed and how to use it. It's not difficult.
[14:23] <indeedwatson> there's no internet on it, does that come by default?
[14:34] <indeedwatson> ok got a lan cable. Turns out the 2nd option is recovery mode. Obviously I don't want to boot into that by default. Any other ideas?
[14:41] <KGIII> Do you have multiple kernels listed?
[14:41] <indeedwatson> no, it's the same kernel in both
[14:42] <KGIII> And you're just now connecting it to the internet?
[14:42] <indeedwatson> im guessing it's gpu drivers
[14:42] <indeedwatson> yeah
[14:42] <indeedwatson> but the package manager program decided not to launch anymore
[14:42] <KGIII> Oh, then just start with 'sudo apt get update && sudo apt upgrade -y' from the terminal.
[14:43] <indeedwatson> alright
[14:45] <KGIII> Which version of Lubuntu is this, by the way?
[14:46] <indeedwatson> 20.10
[14:48] <KGIII> Thanks. When it's done updating, try rebooting normally. We can go from there. I should warn you that I'm still on 18.04 until the first part of next year. There are others here more qualified but we've all got different schedules.
[14:51] <indeedwatson> is there a way to know for sure if this laptop has a wifi card? (from within lubuntu)
[14:51] <indeedwatson> I don't know the laptop model
[14:57] <KGIII> Check 'ifconfig -a'.
[14:59] <kc2bez> I am not sure that net-tools is installed anymore.
[14:59] <KGIII> Ah, see? LOL They really need someone with something newer than 18.04.
[15:00] <KGIII> I am not making the switch until early next year - 2nd week of January.
[15:00] <kc2bez> `lspci -nnk` will report pci devices
[15:01] <kc2bez> I don't have a laptop handy but you can likely refine that output with `lspci -nnk | grep Ethernet`
[15:01] <KGIII> You catching this indeedwatson?
[15:06] <indeedwatson> i installed net-tools, i set up a lan cable for now
[15:06] <indeedwatson> what do i look for in the outpot of ifconfig -a?
[15:09] <KGIII> How many devices do you have listed?
[15:09] <indeedwatson> if there's no wlan it means there's no wifi card? There's only enp0s4 and lo
[15:09] <apt-ghetto> It is maybe easier to start with `ip link` to see, whether a wireless interface exists or not
[15:09]  * KGIII points up - listen to them
[15:09] <indeedwatson> same two with that command
[15:11] <apt-ghetto> Try `lspci -nnk | grep -i net -A2`
[15:13] <indeedwatson> well i'm rebooting normally after the upgrade and it's stuck in "powered by lubuntu" again. Only thing I can think of is boot back into safe mode and see what the package manager suggests in terms of gpu drivers
[15:13] <apt-ghetto> If you see the plymouth splash screen ("powered by lubuntu"), then press the ESC key
[15:14] <apt-ghetto> You should see some messages and maybe a reason, why it is blocked
[15:18] <indeedwatson> i'll do that if this fails. I'm in the package manager rn, how do i figure out what to install in terms of video drivers?
[15:21] <apt-ghetto> You should have the "correct" open-source driver for your GPU. If you have some problems with the open-source driver, you have to check the hardware and find out, what is the correct proprietary driver
[15:22] <apt-ghetto> Often, you have two different GPUs, one in the processor and one on a dedicated graphic card
[15:22] <apt-ghetto> Usually, only the GPU on the processor is used
[15:22] <indeedwatson> i don't think this has a dGPU
[15:22] <indeedwatson> I'm only assuming it's a driver issue
[15:25] <indeedwatson> apt-ghetto nothing happens if i press Esc in the powered by lubuntu screen
[15:29] <apt-ghetto> That is not good and quite unusual. In this case reboot into the working entry (recovery) and please upload the system log with `journalctl -b -1 | pastebinit` and share the link here. But first you should check, that your logfile does not contain any "sensitive" infos
[15:32] <indeedwatson> i think i'm going with xubuntu, i'm setting this laptop for someone else and if i'm having so much trouble already it might not be the best to stick to lubuntu. However you've been helpful, so if xubuntu presents similar difficulties I'll go back to lubuntu and keep troubleshooting
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[21:07] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> hi guys
[21:07] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> I'm trying to launch Lutris but I get this error
[21:07] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> Unsupported locale setting. Fix your locales
[21:07] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> then I tried to configure my locals using the command
[21:07] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[21:08] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> and this is the output I'm getting
[21:08] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZM5g3KfxCM/
[21:08] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> I can't fix my locals
[21:09] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> But I have to confess that yesterday I removed LibreOffice-core
[21:09] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> I fear that I removed a file or two too much 😬
[21:18] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> it sounds like you need to regen your locales.  Or generate the specific locale errors you're getting
[21:18] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> (locale failures typically aren't caused by removal of libreoffice)
[21:19] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> so sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[21:19] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> is something else? (re @Michaël: then I tried to configure my locals using the command
[21:19] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales)
[21:20] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> USUALLY you need to run sudo locale-gen or sudo locale-gen [YOUR LOCALE HERE]
[21:20] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> and you've got two locales currently
[21:21] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> so you need to make sure both are generated
[21:21] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> yes
[21:21] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> I wanted my terminal and GUI in English in case something went wrong
[21:21] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> I don't know always how to translate something to English (re @teward001: and you've got two locales currently)
[21:21] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> well then you may want to double check that both locales're generated
[21:22] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> sudo locale-gen en_US.UTF-8 and sudo locale-gen nl_BE.UTF-8 (becuase the NL locale is not generated by the straight localegen you're using)
[21:22] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> so sudo locale-gen
[21:22] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> finished without errors
[21:22] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> I'll try those 2 (re @teward001: sudo locale-gen en_US.UTF-8 and sudo locale-gen nl_BE.UTF-8 (becuase the NL locale is not generated by the straight localegen you're using))
[21:26] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> so
[21:26] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> sudo locale-gen en_US.UTF-8
[21:26] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> and
[21:26] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> sudo locale-gen nl_BE.UTF-8
[21:26] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> both completed without errors
[21:26] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> and yet Lutris complains with the same error ... (re @Michaël: hi guys
[21:26] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> I'm trying to launch Lutris but I get this error
[21:26] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> Unsupported locale setting. Fix your locales)
[21:36] <wxl> does `locale -a | egrep '(en_US|nl_BE).UTF-8'` return both?
[21:37] <wxl> er wait that's not right
[21:37] <wxl> does `locale -a | egrep '(en_US|nl_BE)'` return both?
[21:37] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> *gives wxl a second "You Failed" ribbon*
[21:38] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> first was for not posting the original one here ;)
[21:38] <wxl> wow it's remarkable how many of those you have
[21:40] <wxl> LC_ALL being unset seems problematic
[21:42] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> both (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> does `locale -a | egrep '(en_US|nl_BE)'` return both?)
[21:43] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> it might just be an error with lutris too
[21:44] <wxl> see if running it like `LC_ALL=C lutris` doesn't help
[21:44] <wxl> but yes quite possibly an issue with lutris
[21:44] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> no probs then :) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> see if running it like `LC_ALL=C lutris` doesn't help)
[21:44] <wxl> afaik that doesn't exist in the ubuntu repositories outside of the development version, so your best place for support would be via lutris
[21:45] <wxl> wait, that worked????
[21:45] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> yes :) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> wait, that worked????)
[21:45] <wxl> ok so you can add `export LC_ALL=C` to .bashrc or the like
[21:46] <wxl> it's possible that may cause problems elsewhere
[21:46] <wxl> (because that would set it globally)
[21:47] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> in that case
[21:47] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> I'll stick with LC_ALL=C lutris
[21:47] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> Thank you very much :)
[21:47] <wxl> if you want it to set that only when lutris runs, find the desktop entry (probably in /usr/share/applications, but perhaps in $HOME/.share/applications) and edit the Exec line
[21:48] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> I'll try that
[21:48] <lubot> [telegram] <Michaël> thank you :) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> if you want it to set that only when lutris runs, find the desktop entry (probably in /usr/share/applications, but perhaps in $HOME/.share/applications) and edit the Exec line)
[21:48] <wxl> yeppers
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