[02:50] <wallyworld> kelvinliu: here's a PR for that service account role issue https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12049
[02:50] <wallyworld> bbiab, gotta sort out car rego
[02:51] <kelvinliu> yep
[08:38] <stickupkid> manadart, https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12052
[08:38] <stickupkid> CR please
[08:59] <manadart> stickupkid: Is it worth doing this more fine-grained by just testing the upgrade against latest/edge rather than latest/beta should it exist?
[09:00] <stickupkid> manadart, so, when a beta exists we guarantee that you can upgrade to latest
[09:00] <stickupkid> manadart, that's why it exists
[09:01] <manadart> stickupkid: There's also the stable -> proposed that is currently under-tested.
[09:02] <stickupkid> manadart, stable to proposed as in?
[09:03] <manadart> 2.8.1 -> 2.8.2, which raised its head in the wild.
[09:06] <stickupkid> manadart, so we now test every PR against latest/stable, so every PR should be able ensure that we're upgradable
[09:07] <stickupkid> manadart, once we branch off 2.9 we will need to ensure that we then test again 2.9/stable
[16:22] <stickupkid> hml, sorry for not reviewing your PR, been fighting with unit tests all afternoon
[16:27] <stickupkid> hml, this is in a draft'ish state, i.e. adding Q&A steps, but might be useful for a code review https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12054