[01:14] <callmepk> good morning
[01:37] <duflu> Morning callmepk 
[01:41] <callmepk> morning duflu , how is your weekend going?
[01:41] <duflu> callmepk, it's Monday but the weekend was good. You?
[01:42] <callmepk> Pretty good
[03:37] <jibel> morning all
[03:43] <duflu> Hi jibel (!?)
[03:57] <jibel> Hello duflu 
[05:51] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[05:51] <duflu> Hi seb128 
[05:51] <jibel> salut seb128 
[05:52] <duflu> I can see you more clearly in 4K now
[05:53] <duflu> Pity everything is stuttering, but I will figure that out...
[05:56] <seb128> hey duflu, ricotz, jibel, how are you? had a good w.e?
[05:57] <duflu> seb128, still pretty quiet and isolated. Only saw family. You?
[05:58] <jibel> it's been a nice w-e. My daughter's birthday party on Saturday, bicycle ride yesterday and still unboxing and mounting furniture.
[05:58] <jibel> I'd enjoy a bit more sleep though
[05:59] <seb128> duflu, saturday was nice, great weather and we walked around for a bit, yesterday was grey and a bit borring, we are still not seeing much people nor doing much outside :/
[05:59] <seb128> jibel, ah nice :)
[06:01] <jibel> seb128, are coworking spaces open in NL? I'm starting to really miss it. 
[06:03] <seb128> I think they can reopen if they respect the 1.5m rule etc but I didn't go check if the local one is reopen yet
[06:05] <seb128> but yeah, that has been long enough, I would welcome going outside; seeing people and not be day and nights in the same place
[06:18] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers, happy Monday!
[06:22] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN 
[06:22] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[06:28] <ricotz> hey oSoMoN duflu seb128 jibel 
[06:29] <duflu> Morning ricotz 
[07:13] <didrocks> good morning
[07:18] <marcustomlinson> morning desktoppers
[07:19] <duflu> Hi didrocks and marcustomlinson 
[07:21] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson, duflu 
[07:22] <marcustomlinson> jibel: you’re in NL now?
[07:23] <oSoMoN> good morning ricotz, didrocks, marcustomlinson 
[07:25] <marcustomlinson> hey duflu didrocks oSoMoN
[07:27] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN 
[07:44]  * duflu just discovered you can set high DPI console fonts in VTs. That's nice
[07:46] <jibel> marcustomlinson, no, I'm still in France in Brittany
[07:52] <seb128> lut didrocks, oSoMoN, hey marcustomlinson, how are you? good w.e?
[07:54] <seb128> didrocks, thx for the libnma mir review!
[07:59] <didrocks> seb128: yw :)
[08:01] <marcustomlinson> hey seb128, pretty good thanks. looks like the restrictions will be eased enough this week for me to visit my parents next week :)
[08:02] <marcustomlinson> the grandparents are really missing their new grandchild!
[08:03] <Laney> moin
[08:03] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[08:04] <Laney> what up MT
[08:04] <didrocks> hey Laney 
[08:05] <duflu> Hi Laney
[08:06] <Laney> https://twitter.com/BBCNottingham/status/1272439418792673281 😳
[08:06] <Laney> moin didrocks & duflu!
[08:16] <seb128> hey Laney, how was the long w.e?
[08:33] <Wimpress> Morning desktoppers
[08:33] <marcustomlinson> hi Wimpress
[08:34] <Wimpress> Hey marcustomlinson o/
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[08:45] <duflu> Hi Wimpress 
[08:48] <oSoMoN> hey seb128, Laney, Wimpress 
[08:50] <didrocks> HEY Wimpress 
[08:50] <didrocks> without capslock works as well :p
[08:51] <Laney> sup seb128 Wimpress 
[08:52] <Laney> weekend was nice, went and explored a hidden abandoned tunnel https://photos.app.goo.gl/iarczD2hDyUv2Q57A
[08:52] <Laney> too scared to go in though, will have to come back not alone
[09:06] <seb128> hehe; wise choice
[09:08] <luna_> i was on a boat: https://imgur.com/a/b7rn9O1
[12:21] <xnox> Laney:  jibel: https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/385566 https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/385607 https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/385614 I'd appreciate for your input on which way ubiquity should be managed going forward. I think over focal/groovy cycles you are the top two committers, so the new style workflow
[12:21] <xnox> should be easy for you two. Whichever one we pick.
[12:24] <Laney> ok I will try building it and see how it goes
[12:24] <Laney> (subtrees if possible)
[12:44] <oSoMoN> seb128, I filed a bug for the blobandconquer ppc64el FTBFS, and attached a debdiff to it: bug #1883522
[12:44] <ubot5> bug 1883522 in blobandconquer (Ubuntu) "FTBFS on ppc64el" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1883522
[12:54] <xnox> oSoMoN:  if this is -O3 vs -O2 triggered failure, normally, we simply change DEB_CFLAGS_APPEND_MAINT=-O2
[12:54] <xnox> in debian/rules
[12:54] <xnox> rather than patching the build system.
[12:55] <oSoMoN> xnox, that would result in building the entire project with -O2, whereas in that case the build only chokes on one specific file
[12:55] <xnox> oSoMoN:  like this:
[12:55] <xnox> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?att=1;bug=942609;filename=pspp_1.2.0-3ubuntu1.debdiff;msg=5
[12:55] <xnox> oSoMoN:  true.
[12:55] <xnox> oSoMoN:  i also wonder if we should notify IBM about that specific file, thing, too. For them to fix toolchain there.
[12:56] <oSoMoN> xnox, happy to do that if you have a contact there who cares
[12:57] <xnox> normally i open a fresh bug, and ask fjh to reverse proxy it
[13:00] <xnox> oSoMoN:  i had to run "update-maintainer" on that package, such that Maintainer fields in debian/control are correct
[13:00] <xnox> (this was also missing fromt he ubuntu1 upload)
[13:07] <oSoMoN> right, I forgot that
[13:07] <oSoMoN> thanks for sponsoring!
[13:16] <xnox> opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-power-systems/+bug/1883531
[13:16] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1883531 in gcc-9 (Ubuntu) "build hangs for 2 hours with -03, yet succeeds with -O2 very quickly" [Undecided,New]
[13:16] <xnox> and will ask to proxy that back to IBM
[13:16] <seb128> oSoMoN, xnox, thx
[14:04] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:09] <Laney> yo hellsworth 
[14:11] <hellsworth> hey Laney 
[14:18] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth 
[14:18] <hellsworth> hi there oSoMoN 
[14:23] <oSoMoN> hellsworth, I re-ran the libreoffice groovy/armhf autopkgtests that failed, it's currently running (http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running#pkg-libreoffice), fingers crossed it passes and migrates
[14:24] <hellsworth> ok thanks. i'm looking at the update_excuses now. there are more tests that i think need running (because they say regression and not test running)
[14:24] <hellsworth> i'm putting together a lsit now
[14:24] <hellsworth> also, oSoMoN thank you so so much for responding to Steve Langasek on the sru
[14:24] <hellsworth> i had no idea how to answer him..
[14:27] <oSoMoN> hellsworth, you're welcome, I'm not really sure why he picked on that one, there's nothing new in SRUing libreoffice minor updates… anyway it would be good if you could look into that API/ABI stability question
[14:27] <hellsworth> oSoMoN: would you mind please rerunning these autopkgtests too? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nCbT8R5RW9/
[14:28] <hellsworth> those were the remaining failed tests in update_excuses
[14:28] <hellsworth> and yes i'll take a look at the API/ABI stability and also respond about the importance of #1869561
[14:33] <oSoMoN> hellsworth, looking
[14:34] <hellsworth> thanks
[14:38] <oSoMoN> hellsworth, all re-triggered, except for the last one which was already running
[14:38] <hellsworth> ah ok thanks
[14:39] <hellsworth> oSoMoN: do you have any suggestion on how to go about the API stability test research? there aren't many tests in core/test or testtools.. i went and introduced myself to #libreoffice-qa and asked for a pointer and waiting on a reply..
[14:40] <hellsworth> of course as soon as i say this, i find a bulk of tests in uitests
[14:41] <oSoMoN> I guess that's your best bet, if you can't find anything related at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA
[14:41] <hellsworth> ok thanks :)
[14:42] <oSoMoN> hellsworth, also, rico_tz may be familiar with the LO tests
[14:42] <hellsworth> i'll poke around the wiki link a bit but hope someone responds in irc
[14:43] <hellsworth> great suggestion!! ricotz I'm looking for LO tests around API/ABI stability.. are you familiar with the tests enough to point to where these would be?
[15:15] <ricotz> hellsworth, such things are scattered in the source tree, e.g. located in "*/qa/*" subfolders
[15:17] <hellsworth> right.. i didn't see anything obvious in qa/ so i went and asked in the lo irc channels and was pointed to ./solenv/gbuild/UnoApiTarget.mk that tests ./offapi/type_reference/offapi.idl
[15:18] <hellsworth> it's those buildtime tests that are not in qa/ and not obvious
[15:23] <hellsworth> thank you oSoMoN, ricotz :)
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