[18:29] Why are there so few notable desktop apps released on linux? [18:30] Linux exclusive apps that take use of the window manager. [18:53] Squarism: Can you give an example of what you'd be looking for? [18:59] mason, when I ran windows and amiga I often stumbled upon new crisper and more advanced apps. I feel like I havent ran a new linux native app (mostly electron and java) in ages. Either Im missing where they are released or talked about, Im just missing them. [19:03] Squarism: Well. An application to do what, though? [19:04] Aside from games, there are creative tools and engineering tools, so defining your goals could help. [19:06] mason, just about anything. New email client, native editor, file manager, desktop tweaks/widgets, etc. Sure Ill manage with the stuff that comes prepackaged. But I've used thunderbird and nautilus for 10 years as there are no competing alternatives available. [19:07] Squarism: There's stuff like this: https://itsfoss.com/best-email-clients-linux/ [19:09] I may be a bad resource for this. I use mostly the same tools I've been using since the 90s. [19:09] I guess most of them cant compare to Thunderbird atleast when it comes to exchange connectivity. [19:09] (calendar / meetings) [20:12] when will the alpha be available?