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[03:55] <Abdiansah> hi all
[03:56] <tekkbuzz> hello
[03:57] <johnajbentley> is there anyway to get a scrolling zoom like in MAC OSX accessibility in KDE on ubuntu 14
[03:58] <johnajbentley> hotkey plus two finger scroll
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[04:50] <Anoniem4l> greetings, i am trying to install a graphics driver (AMD) on a kubuntu. it can't find the kernel headers (specifically /usr/modules/3.13.0-43-generic/build/include/linux/version.h). I tried to find that file manually by executing: # locate version.h | grep 3.13.0; and i don't see anything related.
[04:51] <Anoniem4l> http://i.imgur.com/N0UerEJ.png , http://i.imgur.com/RgXl3wU.png
[04:51] <Anoniem4l> i updated and upgraded/dist-upgraded a couple of minutes ago.
[05:01] <qdata> Anoniem4l: I don't think I can be of much help to you, I haven't used catalyst/AMD in years now
[05:01] <qdata> but 3.13.x kernel is fairly old
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[05:02] <Anoniem4l> qdata: i did dist-upgrade and it gave me that
[05:02]  * qdata was also wondering if it *was* working before the upgrade
[05:05] <qdata> what version Kubuntu are we talking about here? and maybe a uname -a for kernel version
[05:05] <qdata> this version.h thing rings a bell with me thoughm but it's been a few too many years since I installed fglrx the 'hard' way
[05:06] <Anoniem4l> qdata: nope, it wasn't (thus I upgraded everything)
[05:06] <Anoniem4l> perhaps i need to upgrade to a newer kernel
[05:06] <qdata> but iirc the fglrx driver code was lagging behind newer kernels and I seem to remember fixing and submitting patches to AMD
[05:11] <Anoniem4l> qdata: i am almost done installing 3.16 kernel
[05:11] <qdata> what I'm wondering is if you have a new enough Kubuntu to have the driver manager thingy
[05:11] <qdata> if you do might be better to go that approach and if it works it might pull in binary packages already built through the package manager
[05:11] <qdata> I just did this on a brand new Kubuntu 14.10 install last night, but I'm using Nvidia
[05:12] <qdata> I suspect the code in the driver package you're trying to install the 'hard' way is not going to work with any kernels that are newer than what was current at the time the fglrx tarball was made
[05:13] <qdata> so the jist there is even if you install matching linux-kernel header files package it will still be pointless
[05:14] <qdata> look in kde systemsettings and see if you have a 'Driver Manager' icon at the bottom in the System Administration section
[05:15] <Anoniem4l> qdata: sadly the 3.16 kernel installation fucked up for some reason (3.16.0-28)
[05:15] <Anoniem4l> let me boot back with my old 3.13.0-43
[05:16] <qdata> 3.16.0-28-generic is what I have here on 14.10
[05:17] <Anoniem4l> I did: # apt-get install linux-headers-3.16.0-28 && apt-get install linux-headers-3.16.0-28-generic && apt-get install linux-image-3.16.0-28-generic && reboot
[05:17] <Anoniem4l> it stuck at the login graphical interface
[05:18] <Anoniem4l> also, it seems i got driver manager, let me see
[05:18] <qdata> if you're real lucky when you run it it will present a list to you
[05:19] <Anoniem4l> "Collecting information about your system" and then nothing :(
[05:19] <Anoniem4l> refresh driver list does the same (nada)
[05:19] <Anoniem4l> i only need the AMD driver for dual monitors :/
[05:21] <qdata> I quit with AMD when I wanted dual monitors and discovered I could have either 2 monitors OR 3D hardware acceleration - fglrx back then would not do both; mutually exclusive
[05:22] <qdata> I knew Nvidis Twinview worked so I stuck an Nvidia card in and that was that
[05:22] <Anoniem4l> i will try installing 3.16.0.28 manually with .deb's now
[05:28] <Anoniem4l> that fucked up as well :S damn.
[05:30] <qdata> what I'm wondering (and it's been too long so I don't remember exactly) but I thought there was some script that something like do-release or something like that which you run before the dist-upgrade
[05:32] <qdata> I seem to think it changed the repos to all the right ones prior to doing the dist-upgrade, but these memories are getting really fuzzy at my age  :/
[05:32] <Anoniem4l> honestly no idea :/
[05:33] <qdata> well if you can't upgrade to the newest kernel after doing the dist-upgrade there exists another problem, and potentially figuring that out might make the driver manager thing work
[05:34] <qdata> just a wild guess on that though
[05:35] <Anoniem4l> yeah, makes sense imo
[05:37] <qdata> on another front sometimes (even though inelegant) it takes less time to do a fresh new install and work your way through getting everything set up back the way you had it than it does to keep fighting with it
[05:39] <qdata> my main drive is an SSD and the second drive is a 750Gb mechanical, and what I do is boot to a partedmagic CD and use clonezilla to make backup images
[05:40] <qdata> if something bombs and I want my system to work right now I just clonezilla back the last working image
[05:44] <SiegeLord> Anyone know what is responsible for showing a password entry dialog when you try to use a password protected ssh key? I want to remove/disable it
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[05:49] <qdata> Anoniem4l: at any rate, going to sleep now but if you ever get the dist-upgrade mess cleaned up and succeed getting the 3.16.0-28-generic there are binary packages existing that you can just apt-get install fglrx
[05:52] <Anoniem4l> qdata: yeah, it seems installing the OS from 0 the only solution, thanks for your time and good night :)
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[07:36] <david___> \topic
[07:37] <david___> How would i go about installing AMD accelerated drivers on Kubuntu?
[07:43]  * shiggitay installs Kubuntu 15.04 Daily
[07:43] <shiggitay> onto my BayTrail tablet
[07:43] <shiggitay> :)
[08:06] <shiggitay> okay so for devs: is it a known issue that the 15.04 alphas don't have grub to install?
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[08:32] <apparle> hi guys!
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[09:10] <shiggitay> so yea I'm tryng to install Kubuntu and Lubuntu side by side on different drives (my tablet has 32 GB onboard (where Kubuntu is) and I have a 32 GB SD as well (where Lubuntu is)
[09:10] <shiggitay> and Grub doesn't seem to install right
[09:12] <shiggitay> or maybe the partition I have it installed doesn't have the boot flag set?
[09:13] <shiggitay> Also will updates to the dailys be deployed OTA?
[09:13] <shiggitay> it'd be a pain to constantly reinstall
[09:13] <shiggitay> apparle, hi :)
[09:13] <apparle> hi
[09:16] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[09:20] <shiggitay> lordievader, sup
[09:22] <lordievader> Hey shiggitay, doing good here, got coffee :)
[09:22] <lordievader> How about you?
[09:22] <shiggitay> ha
[09:22] <shiggitay> where in the world are ya?
[09:22] <shiggitay> NorthEast US here
[09:22] <shiggitay> Boston area
[09:22] <lordievader> Stick around, you'll see.
[09:23] <shiggitay> haha ok
[09:31] <shiggitay> so yeah no matter what I do I can't get a booting grub
[09:32] <shiggitay> can anyone help?
[09:32] <lordievader> shiggitay: Does it throw errors when you install it?
[09:32] <shiggitay> no
[09:32] <shiggitay> just I can't seem to get the partition to boot
[09:32] <shiggitay> the ESP
[09:32] <lordievader> ESP?
[09:32] <shiggitay> EFI System Partition
[09:32] <shiggitay> As stated above:
[09:33] <shiggitay> so yea I'm tryng to install Kubuntu and Lubuntu side by side on different drives (my tablet has 32 GB onboard (where Kubuntu is) and I have a 32 GB SD as well (where Lubuntu is)
[09:33] <lordievader> Ah, ESP is IPSec with me ;)
[09:33] <shiggitay> heh
[09:33] <lordievader> I have no experience with EFI.
[09:33] <shiggitay> ah
[09:38] <shiggitay> so yeah anyone with EFI experience please msg me or speak up here in chat
[09:52] <valorie> !efi | shiggitay
[09:52] <ubottu> shiggitay: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[09:52] <valorie> the skinny is right there, better than any of us can tell ya
[09:53] <lordievader> Hey valorie, how are you doing?
[09:58] <shiggitay> valorie, I know WHAT EFI is...
[09:58] <valorie> hi lordievader
[09:58] <valorie> shiggitay: I know you know, but something in that link might be useful
[09:58] <valorie> if not, sorry for the noise
[09:58] <shiggitay> not really
[09:58] <shiggitay> heh
[09:59] <shiggitay> I guess I just can't have two different *buntu's installed and expect them to be both bootable
[09:59] <shiggitay> which is fine
[09:59] <lordievader> shiggitay: Should be possible...
[09:59] <lordievader> Even on EFI, if not it is a huge regression bug!
[10:00]  * shiggitay formats and only installs Lubuntu to the onboard 32 GB
[10:02] <valorie> certainly you can have two
[10:02] <valorie> but you should only have to install another desktop, not a whole new install, unless that's what you want
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[10:49] <Pavn> anyone?
[10:50] <lordievader> Pavn: Err, that is your opening question?
[10:50] <lordievader> Pavn: See /names ;)
[10:51] <Pavn> how do disable click-on-hover?
[10:53] <Pavn> and is there any way i can reset all settings to defaults for a user without re-installing kde?
[10:55] <lordievader> Pavn: Rename the ~/.kde folder.
[10:55] <Pavn> I can just rename it?
[10:56] <Pavn> It wouldn't crash the system?
[10:56] <lordievader> Pavn: Yes, then log out and log back in.
[10:56] <Pavn> and rename to? any name?
[10:57] <lordievader> Pavn: Usually people take ~/.kde.bak, but as long as it is not ~/.kde it is fine.
[10:58] <Pavn> ~ = my home directory?
[10:58] <lordievader> Pavn: Yes ;)
[10:59] <Pavn> Thanks :)
[11:06] <shiggitay> Blah
[11:06] <shiggitay> both Lubuntu and Kubuntu 15.04 Daily only boot to their respective initramfs prompts
[11:12] <Walex> shiggitay: lazy systems... :-)
[11:13] <Walex> shiggitay: anyhow you need probably at some point to 'update-initramfs'. Regrettably the boot system is a poorly documented hack
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[12:16] <BluesKaj_> hiyas all
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[16:17] <Pavan_> If i connect my phone to my laptop, it keeps reconnecting. It happens only in KDE (plasma) and only for one user.
[16:17] <Pavan_> Problem is, that is my root account.
[16:17] <Pavan_> what should i do?
[16:22] <Pavan_> anyone?
[16:24] <ikonia> is your usb port resetting ?
[16:38] <Pavan_> yes
[16:48] <Pavan_> ?
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[17:13] <Pavan> if i connect my phone usb keeps resetting - happens only for one user (root user)
[17:14] <Pavan> i tried resetting user by renaming .kde file but it did not solve the proble
[17:14] <Pavan> *problem
[18:49] <TuDios> hi¿
[18:49] <TuDios> i have installed kubuntu 32 bits on a old computer and have no desktop...
[18:50] <TuDios> i mean, i can oly use search page and thats it
[18:50] <TuDios> no folders, no files...
[18:55] <TuDios> any1?
[19:38] <teisei> Hey does anyone have an idea if I can bind Menu key (the one between Alt Gr and Ctrl that by default opens a context menu or w/e it's called) to do something else such as open a terminal?
[19:39] <teisei> I tried binding the key but for some reason the key is not recognized (not even as a modifier key)
[19:40] <teisei> The default behaviour of the Menu key appears to work OK but that's not what I want
[19:46] <nullbyte_> does kubuntu is a part of ubuntu?
[20:28] <Postman[n]> hi
[20:28]  * Postman[n] is a noobi
[20:30] <Postman[n]> can i upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04 without a CD or USD
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[21:44] <fill_> jj
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