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[08:37] <harmw> smoser: on schedule for the freeze? which projects do you need to keep on track anyway, besides this one :)
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[16:12] <TTimo> Hello. Is there an easy way to supply user data 'manually'? e.g. I am getting access to a machine that was manually installed, but I have software that is already cloud-init ready .. as a special case I'd like to write out the user data 'manually' on the machine, and kick it off ..
[16:18] <TTimo> the 'No cloud' data source looks like what I want, but do I really have to create a .img ?
[16:20] <TTimo> even then .. probably not. the example shows spinning it up with kvm, which isn't what I want to do
[16:36] <devicenull> hmm, isn't cloud-config supposed to run after could-init?
[16:36] <devicenull> the ubuntu configs seem to start them at the same time
[16:39] <nvucinic> TTimo: you can create iso and mount it on boot
[16:39] <TTimo> the instance is already booted at that point
[16:40] <TTimo> but it's not 'cloud-init' aware
[16:40] <nvucinic> reboot it then 
[16:40] <nvucinic> with iso mounted
[16:40] <TTimo> so I wanted to manually install cloud init, and pass it the stuff
[16:40] <TTimo> any option without a reboot? 
[16:41] <TTimo> it's a VPS so I'm not sure what kind of options I would have on kernel parameters and a reboot
[16:41] <TTimo> (they are working on cloud-init support .. it's not ready yet)
[16:42] <devicenull> can't you just run the init scripts?
[16:43] <devicenull> or like, 'cloud-init init'
[16:43] <TTimo> yes .. that's what I want to do .. my question is probably very simple .. how/where do I put what I would normally give as 'user data' on EC2 before running cloud-init init ?
[16:44] <smoser> TTimo, you can feed cloud-init user-data for NoCloud via either 'seed'
[16:44] <devicenull> hmm, /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/something
[16:44] <devicenull> I think is what you're after
[16:44] <smoser> or you can put it right into /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/something.cfg
[16:44] <smoser> links coming
[16:44] <TTimo> oh
[16:44] <smoser> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/cloud-init/trunk/files/head:/doc/examples/seed/
[16:44] <smoser> that is "seed" (you populate the directory with 2 files)
[16:45] <smoser> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/cloud-init/trunk/view/head:/doc/examples/cloud-config-datasources.txt
[16:45] <smoser> that shows how to do user-data-blob inside of NoCloud Datasource
[16:45] <smoser> which means just adding 1 file in /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/my-config.cfg
[16:45] <TTimo> nice!
[16:46] <smoser> also, i started 'ci-tool' https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/ci-tool/
[16:46] <smoser> that does some of this
[16:48] <devicenull> oh, maybe I'm hitting https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1236463
[16:48] <devicenull> hmm
[16:54] <devicenull> oh, dumb
[16:54] <devicenull> apt-get update was hanging, so my scripts didn't get run
[17:06] <smoser> devicenull, /var/log/cloud-init-output.log will help you in such a case.
[17:06] <smoser> (or console output if you're on something < trusty )
[17:07] <devicenull> ya
[17:14] <harmw> smoser: on par for the freeze?
[17:20] <smoser> no. :O)
[17:20] <smoser> but ui'm working on cloud-init now.
[17:21] <harmw> oh cool
[17:21] <harmw> I was mostly asking out of interest, not because of pending ci merges :)
[17:24] <smoser> i may or may not make it :)
[17:24] <smoser> i'd not realized that i'd gotten to ~ 95 bugs open now
[17:24] <smoser> yuck
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[17:32] <harmw> damn
[17:32] <harmw> harlowja_: you need to fix 95 c-i bugs so smoser can focus on merging :p
[17:32] <harlowja_> eck
[17:33]  * harlowja_ runs for the hills
[17:33] <harlowja_> lol
[17:33] <harmw> lol
[17:33] <harlowja_> i think some of the bugs on https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init can be cleaned up/closed/removed
[17:42] <smoser> i thikn so too
[17:55] <harlowja_> i can try to close/change some of those today, will see what i can do
[17:55] <harlowja_> smoser harmw https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TaskFlow-0.4 if u want to do some reviews ;)
[17:57] <smoser> harlowja_, dont really understand how we regressed here:
[17:57] <smoser>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1356855
[17:57] <smoser> and part of me wants to say : fix your ec2 metadata service to be ... ec2 like!
[17:58] <harlowja_> def
[17:58] <harlowja_> thats sorta nuts
[17:58] <smoser> i think its really boiling down to that they dont like the "list" request to have a / on the end
[17:58] <harlowja_> most web servers handle that :/
[17:58] <harlowja_> kk
[17:58] <harlowja_> weird stuff
[17:58] <harlowja_> lol
[17:59] <smoser>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8108001/
[17:59] <smoser> that is on oepnstack.
[17:59] <harlowja_> meta-data/ 
[17:59] <harlowja_> omg a slash!
[17:59] <harlowja_> ^ ////
[18:00] <harlowja_> anyways
[18:01] <harlowja_> can be fixed pretty easily i think
[18:01] <harlowja_> but would be useful to see that persons logs first
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[19:51] <TTimo> damn, no luck with that manual cloud-init run so far. it's like it's completely ignoring my NoCloud datasource
[19:56] <TTimo> https://gist.github.com/TTimo/1c9c7ce9686aa45c63b5 - my /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg
[19:56] <TTimo> should .. just work? when I execute cloud-init -d init, I see it parsed up .. however nothing happens
[20:00] <harmw> smoser: merge! :p
[20:01] <smoser> TTimo, that looks reasonable.
[20:01] <smoser> you may have to run 'cloud-init local'
[20:01] <smoser> as that will remove the cached data in /var/lib/cloud/instance/
[20:01] <smoser> otherwise if thats there, 'cloud-init init'
[20:01] <smoser> will just use the cache
[20:01] <smoser> ie, first run:
[20:01] <smoser>  cloud-init init --local
[20:01] <smoser> then
[20:01] <smoser>  cloud-init init
[20:02] <TTimo> checking ..
[20:04] <TTimo> or you mean the other way, first run doesn't need --local, and runs after that will
[20:05] <TTimo> should I be concerned about: No 'init' modules to run under section 'cloud_init_modules'
[20:06] <TTimo> __init__.py[WARNING]: Unhandled non-multipart (text/x-not-multipart) userdata: '#/bin/sh\necho "Test"\n...'
[20:06] <TTimo> followed by No 'init' modules to run under section 'cloud_init_modules'
[20:06] <TTimo> that's how the run ends atm
[20:21] <TTimo> I don'
[20:21] <TTimo> I don't understand what those modules are about in cloud.cfg though
[20:22] <TTimo> is there a module I need to list to make sure user data gets handled ?
[20:22] <TTimo> what are they useful for otherwise .. do they just add supported functionality basically
[20:29] <smoser> oh.
[20:29] <smoser> you replaced /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg ?
[20:29] <smoser> dont do that.
[20:29] <smoser> :)
[20:29] <TTimo> yeah :)
[20:29] <smoser> just add stuff to it or to /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/local-nocloud-ds.cfg
[20:29] <smoser> or something.
[20:30] <TTimo> right .. getting a fresh vps, this one has seen enough
[20:30] <smoser> so the warning aobut no 'init' modules is reasonable
[20:30] <smoser> unhandled... that seems odd. not sure why that wouldget get picked up
[20:30] <smoser> where are you playing ?
[20:30] <smoser> just curious
[20:31] <TTimo> digitalocean
[20:32] <smoser> in theory user-data is coming there.
[20:33] <smoser> https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean/suggestions/3736274-support-cloudinit-instance-metadata
[20:33] <TTimo> yep
[20:33] <smoser> TTimo, fwiw, you can do a *lot* of this with lxc containers
[20:33] <smoser> and clone is very fast.
[20:33] <TTimo> docker you mean?
[20:33] <smoser> no. here.
[20:34] <smoser> http://ubuntu-smoser.blogspot.com/2013/08/lxc-with-fast-cloning-via-overlayfs-and.html
[20:34] <TTimo> oh right. 'here' meaning ubuntu
[20:34] <smoser> well, no 'here' meant: i'm looking for a url, just a minute 
[20:34] <smoser> :)
[20:35] <smoser> so you can do an lxc-clone, and then could just write the file into /var/lib/lxc/<container>/ ...
[20:36] <smoser> if you us clone without overlayfs, then you'll see the whole filesystem in /var/lib/lxc/<container-name>/rootfs/
[20:36] <smoser> make sense ?
[20:36] <TTimo> yeah I think I see what you mean
[20:36] <TTimo> the vps is fast and cheap, locally I'm on OSX so no native lxc etc.
[20:44] <TTimo> cloudinit/handlers/__init__.py:206
[20:44] <TTimo> def walker_callback
[20:44] <TTimo> so looks like the content_type is not in handlers
[20:44] <TTimo> so there's no run_part
[20:45] <TTimo> Unhandled non-multipart (text/x-not-multipart) userdata: '#/bin/sh\necho "Test"\n...'
[21:01] <smoser> harlowja, when you have nothing to do
[21:01] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1316323
[21:01] <smoser> dont' knwo why i couldnt get that jsonpatch to work
[21:01] <harlowja> kk
[21:02] <harlowja> lol, marco
[21:02] <harlowja> maybe i just assign marco to fix it (he's my manager)
[21:04] <smoser> alright.
[21:04] <smoser> i'm out.
[21:04] <smoser> later all
[21:04] <harlowja> lata
[21:31] <TTimo> DataSourceNoCloud appends a nocloud to the seedfrom: parameter passed in .cfg
[21:31] <TTimo> it also requires a trailing / on the seedfrom
[21:32] <TTimo> but then .. it actually looks and loads user-data etc. from /var/lib/cloud/seed, not /var/lib/cloud/seed/noclip/
[21:32] <TTimo> err /var/lib/cloud/seed/nocloud/
[21:32] <TTimo> :)
[21:32] <TTimo> man it's all messed up
[21:37] <harlowja> smoser i think the reason jsonpatch stuff wasn't getting activated is that running a single module doesn't trigger the whole handler stuff
[21:42] <smoser> harlowja, yeah, i thoguht that too, but i tried putting the file in /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/ also
[21:42] <smoser> and had hoped it would there.
[21:42] <smoser> its quite possible you're right though.
[21:42] <harlowja> possible, the ohther josh-merging-algo approach works though
[21:46] <harlowja> smoser btw, cloud-init will be used for all deployments of all machines at yahoo pretty sooon
[21:46] <harlowja> *will be included in and used
[21:47] <harlowja> it was used for openstack vms and machines & stuff but that scope is increasing to all the things
[21:47] <harlowja> so good work, ha
[21:47] <TTimo> all the things
[21:48] <harlowja> :-P